0:33I guess I didn't remember if you're not going to be able to do that.
0:36Yeah, they need to go 200 feet.
0:48Let's say after 5 30, we'll go ahead and get started.
1:03Item three on agenda is old business.
1:06Item four, consent agenda.
1:08We only have one item.
1:10Hear a motion on that or any changes.
1:13I'll make a motion to approve item four on the consent agenda.
1:20I have a motion second approval for consent agenda item four A.
1:23So we'll have a roll call vote.
1:29Item five items removed from consent agenda.
1:32So that takes takes us to public hearings.
1:38Staff want to cover that.
1:41This item is a public hearing consideration and possible action regarding SP.
1:46Sorry, SP-002459-2025.
1:51For Harvest Church, 6.58 acres.
1:54Agricultural to Commercial General via BAZ dash 00238.
2:00These numbers really get me.
2:02Located at the northwest corner of New Orleans Street and Ninth Street.
2:37Based on the conference of plan, location of the property and surrounding land uses, staff recommends that SP whoops, that's the wrong case number.
2:45That SP dash 002459-2025 be approved as presented.
2:53All right, thanks, McKenzie.
2:55Any questions, discussion staff?
2:57Is the applicant present?
2:59Do you have anything you wish to add?
3:01Anybody sign up to speak on this item?
3:05All right, so I'll open close the public hearing, so any discussion.
3:10I guess we're ready for a motion then.
3:11I make a motion that we approve item six A 25-1570 per staff recommendation.
3:19I'll second the motion.
3:20I have a motion to second a roll call vote.
3:31Now this item will go before the city council on December 2nd, right here at 630.
3:36Next item on the agenda is item 6B 25-1573.
3:42Yes, this is public hearing consideration and possible action regarding PUD 002465 2025.
3:50Major amendments to PUD 193.
3:5317.14 acres, industrial light and PUD 193.
3:58Located approximately one half miles south of Washington Street, also known as 91st, and approximately one half mile east of Evan Roads, also known as 225th East Avenue.
4:10Is it is a major amendment to BUD 193?
4:13This property is located approximately one half mile south of Washington, approximately one mile east of Evans.
4:19This PUD proposes to amend the allowed use types for the for uh ignore the eastern portion, that's a error right there.
4:26Um amend the allowed use types for uh for PUD 193.
4:32This amendment would remove the exclusion of outdoors storage and include it as an allowed use.
4:36The allowed use table within the broken arrow zoning ordinance designates storage yard as a permitted use within the IL zone.
4:44All other provisions of PUD 193 shall remain in effect as previously approved.
4:49According to FEMA maps, none of the property is located in the 100-year floodplain.
4:53Water and sanitary sewer are available from the city of Broken Arrow.
5:00Based upon the location of the property and the surrounding land uses, staff recommends that PUD 002465 2025 be approved.
5:05And actually that is correct.
5:07It is the eastern portion of the PUD.
5:09It's the eastern portion of the overall PUD, but the change for this is for the northern part of that.
5:14So I was getting myself a little confused.
5:17Yeah, it's the staff recommends approval.
5:20All right, thanks, Jose.
5:21Any discussion staff.
5:24Is the applicant present?
5:26Do you have anything you wish to add?
5:28Well, let me ask you a question if you don't mind coming up.
5:30I got a quick question for you.
5:36I think I misread it earlier or when not, but uh I want to make sure I understand.
5:40So you're asking for the outside storage, which I don't really have a problem with that.
5:43I we say it all the time, but you're wanting to exclude no cars, uh vehicles, I guess.
5:48It what are we actually materials and vehicles, right?
5:52It's not what you're what you're not gonna allow in the store outside storage.
5:55We're talking about boats, campers, things like that.
5:58Would you agree with that?
6:00So you're looking at boats, campers, RVs, things like that.
6:03I've got the the owner here too, if you want to talk to him about it.
6:07But my name is Mark Capurn with Wallace and uh Wallace Design Collective.
6:12Yeah, I just want to make sure, and so staff's happy with the the way the PUD narrative or design statements written in to cover that then.
6:18Yeah, the I think the because one of the things with the original PUD is it didn't include um like that vehicle storage, outdoor storage as an allowed use.
6:27Um and so since it wasn't included as allowed use, we couldn't approve um that use, and so that's kind of what this PUD amendment is is to include it now as an allowed use.
6:36Well, it sounds like you're really trying to control the area, and that's a good thing.
6:39But yeah, also you mentioned that the no materials are going to be stored on site.
6:42When I think of materials, a lot of times we're thinking like wood, debris, things like that, ag aggregate or bituminess material, anything like that.
6:50Containers, things like that.
6:52Is that covered in materials or how how it's my name is Carl Graham?
6:56I represent ownership of the property.
6:58I mean, I don't know if the city has a definition of what materials are in regards to this or not.
7:02So yeah, I think what and I have to double check the exact text of the PUD amendment.
7:07Um I think what we added in was might have been was it a storage order vehicle storage as the allowed use.
7:12Um so I know one of those was what we added in.
7:15I just want to make sure, sir, that materials is not gonna exclude stuff that you actually intended to be put in there.
7:22This is an RV storage facility, and we we want to allow for RVs to be parked there.
7:31Staff's good with that, and and will this also be trailers.
7:37Uh I I think the the way it's written, it would allow for that, but we're pretty discerning about and it'll just be gravel, right?
7:48Well were you gonna say trailers full of derivative materials or something?
7:52But yeah, I was gonna say like it's the trailer and then it's an open trailer that's got a bunch of junk on it or um and then customers are pretty discerning customers are storing nice.
8:04Well, and you're gonna control what's good.
8:05You're gonna control what's going in there, so correct.
8:08Yeah, and then the only other thing it's sometimes I've seen some storage areas not really in broken arrow, but in Tulsa where it's tractor trailers, semi-truck trailers.
8:18You know, in the storage facility.
8:20So it's just curious if we were that's not the intent.
8:24I'm sure you thought that through.
8:25We just I just want to make sure that we're approved that we approve of what you're asking for.
8:29So what your intent was.
8:30So looking at it again, what it mentions there shall be no outdoor storage of material material or vehicles aside from block one lot one.
8:38So I think this portion is that property is block one lot one, and then the one to the east is also part of the PUD 193.
8:45So I think that's why uh that's why it has that eastern portion.
8:49Because this property is the eastern portion of that PUD.
8:51Yeah, the original PUD encompassed two tracks.
8:54We just own the east track, and so we're just asking for the allowance on our tract.
9:00Okay, and so as not to change what already existed for the other property.
9:05Because we don't it's not our property, sounds good.
9:10And in discussion, applicant.
9:14All right, we'll close public.
9:15Nobody else signed up speak, correct?
9:17Okay, I guess we'll close public hearing and discussion.
9:20Guess we're ready for I'll make a motion to approve item six B per staff recommendations.
9:26And most second have rule call vote.
9:35Robert Gordon saying, Yes.
9:36That'll go before the city council right here, December 2nd at uh 630.
9:43Have that your wallace party next week.
9:50Next item on the agenda is item number eight, General Commission Business, item 8A25-1568.
10:00Yes, this item is a or a modification to section 4.1T of the land subdivision code for IOS land company, approximately 40 acres.
10:07Um industrial light slash PUD 001521-2024, located north of Houston Street, one quarter mile west of County Line Road.
10:17This request is for a modification to I see my stuff.
10:32I'm pointing like anyone can see what I'm pointing at.
10:35Um that will connect to the property to the north, which is also zoned industrial light with a separate PUD, uh PUD 289.
10:43This through street will facilitate industrial traffic flow to Houston Street from both properties.
10:48Um IOS land company proposes to end their half of the street in a cul-de-sac until such time as the entire street can be constructed.
10:56Uh section 4.1 T of the land subdivision code limits the lengths of streets ending in a cul-de-sac to 550 feet unless planning commission grants permission for a longer street.
11:06The length of the street needed to reach the property to the north is uh 1215 feet.
11:11So on behalf of the property owner, city staff request a modification to section 4.1 T of the land subdivision code for this property to increase the maximum cul de sac length from 550 feet to 1215 feet.
11:26Um and we recommend that this be approved.
11:28Well, it does have a jogging and also, so it's not like it's a straight line.
11:32So will the intent actually be to actually go all the way to a college street itself?
11:38Okay, so there will be a th it will be a thoroughfare.
11:41And none of it's gonna be private, right?
11:43This is all public right of way.
11:45Um the other thing, this uh the plat for this property went before planning commission on I believe October 9th.
11:55Um so you will be seeing that again with the change in right of way, um, since that has changed the the length of that street and the dimensions of the lots on both sides.
12:06Okay, and I would imagine y'all the tack looked at this and yes, I would imagine it'd be a good thing to get help get traffic off county line, correct?
12:14I would think that would definitely I think it's a good thing to have.
12:19Is the applicant present?
12:22Do you have anything you wish to add?
12:24You're all good with it then?
12:27Anyone sign up speak?
12:30I guess there are any conversation about speed bumps or anything to make sure traffic isn't going too fast.
12:39Well, that's kind of because that's the intent of right.
12:43So uh just to conversation.
12:47Well, yeah, I understand.
12:48So that's traffic calling measure, and there's different ways to do the traffic calling measure, and that's usually done after the fact of unless they actually design something to put in there right now, which would be they have the jog, so I'd I would doubt they're putting speed humps in there right now.
13:04So that would we anticipate that the design is going to be enough to keep people from speeding down that is the anticipation.
13:12Um I suppose that the in the future, if there is an issue with speed, then traffic calming measures can be implemented, but that's not part of the um I guess this section of the subdivision regulation that is being modified for this property.
13:28And that'll be worked out with the engineering department and city council after that with the traffic calming measures the way I remember they did it.
13:34So I'm not sure if that's still how they do it or not.
13:42Any other discussion?
13:45Well, close public hearing have a motion.
13:52Well, I'll move to approve per staff recommendation.
14:10Now that'll go before the city council on December 2nd, right here at 6 30.
14:17Item number nine remarks, inquiries, and comments by planning commission staff.
14:25Rocky couldn't make it tonight.
14:26He's in another meeting, but he did want to um remind you all that we did get the agenda out early.
14:35Yeah, we greatly appreciate that.
14:37That made our lives very nice.
14:40Hopefully we see that a lot, right?
14:42Well, we're fully staffed.
14:42No, we really appreciate that.
14:44Yeah, fully staffed and get it done very nice.
14:47I do have one question that I was thinking about.
14:49I just it and maybe and you we don't have to talk about it tonight, but when we see and don't see landscape plans, like I know like PUDs, if we talk about the landscape, we usually request to see the landscape plans or out of courtesy, it's brought before us, right?
15:04But not always do we see you know we may see the site plans the flat before that or something, but we don't always see the landscape plan.
15:11So I was just curious about what the process of when we see it and when we don't.
15:17Um I can definitely look into that more.
15:19I think it's gonna depend on what type of project it is and if it's required as part of that approach.
15:23And that's what I'm wondering.
15:24I I don't know when it is or not.
15:32I don't remember us seeing the landscape plan for.
15:35And so I was curious why the difference would be we've seen it and we don't see it.
15:39And ask about the cell tower that they were going to get with staff about the landscaping.
15:49Can you guys give an update on that?
15:51On the video came out on Facebook that showing it was approved and stuff, and I guess that did not go before the city council then.
15:58It only came through us and cell tower uh by um Buffalo Wild Wings Buffalo Wild Wings and 71st December.
16:05The 200 foot tower that's specific.
16:10There's a note to reach out to them and have an update for the case.
16:12Yeah, because I think that was one of the last things we talked about, and well, I think it was in our motion, or maybe not in the motion, but that's what our intent was if I remember right.
16:20And I thought it was since it was specific use permit for the 200 foot tower in lieu of the hundred and sixty foot.
16:26I thought it was going before the city council, but it wasn't on city council agenda, but the video came out saying it was approved, so I I didn't know if they meant from the planning commission commission and the staff or what big deal, just curious.
16:41Oh I believe that went to city council on October 7th.
16:45Oh, was that when it was?
16:49And so it did it approved.
16:50Do you know if it approved per staff recommendations and the and the planning commission recommendations?
16:59So there should be landscape in it then.
17:01There should be trees and make it pretty.
17:10And Trader Joe's, we have to that's so exciting.
17:20You just wait till you go.
17:21I've been to one twice.
17:23And they have they might have really pretty pickleballs that you can enjoy.
17:29Any other discussion?
17:30I'm just I'm just still optimistic.
17:34This I was like, you can do a different pickle nerve.
17:38So this isn't really a planning commission item, but I just wanted to recognize the city of Broken Arrow.
17:43Uh going to work this morning.
17:45I saw the a street sweeper truck.
17:47I didn't even know we had one.
17:48Twenty years I've never seen that happen.
17:51And going through my neighborhood, they were uh having that run this morning.
17:55I was like, Yes, that's awesome.
18:00That shows where they're gonna be, right?
18:01In a certain part of the year, I think.
18:03Oh if I remember right.
18:05I like and I didn't even know they had one, so just really just appreciate the city for the hard work that they're doing to help you know maintain even the little things like the curb.
18:17They're trying to keep the grass out of the sewer.
18:20Yeah, the grass and the leaves and everything else.
18:22But I just didn't realize they had one.
18:24So you might get a raise after this one.
18:27Maybe no, that's it.
18:34I don't have anything.
18:35I guess we're ready for a motion then.
18:37I'll make a motion to adjourn.
18:40Motion saying a rule call vote.
18:58If I touch something like that, yeah, that's