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Butte-Silver Bow Study Commission Meeting - August 25, 2025

Council of Commissioners & CommitteesMonday, August 25, 2025
BodyButte Silver Bow, Montana
SessionCouncil of Commissioners & Committees
DateMonday, August 25, 2025
StatusFILED
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Transcript — Verbatim
2:36

Okay, I'll call the meeting of August 25th study commission to order, please.

2:42

Can we have roll call?

2:46

Lori Casey?

2:48

Cindy Purdue Dolan is excused.

2:51

Ben D Ben Thielen.

2:53

Matt Steffen.

2:55

Um Raylan Brandle.

2:56

Present.

2:57

Dan Denehy.

2:59

Chad Selk.

3:00

Excused.

3:01

Cindy Shaw here.

3:03

And Mary McCormack.

3:05

Excuse me.

3:05

Thank you.

3:06

Can we have our Pledge of Allegiance and Prayer, please?

3:17

And to the Republic for which it stands.

3:48

Okay.

3:49

First up, public comment on any item on the agenda.

3:59

All right, Bon Rogue, 2601 Grand Avenue.

4:02

Reference, probably comments on items on the agenda.

4:06

The subject conversation at the Melrose listening session.

4:12

Item nine point eight.

4:22

Well, I witnessed this conversation between a resident of Melrose and the Council of Commissioner, Commissioner.

4:35

With this body.

5:01

First a bit of background.

5:04

As you are all aware, in the 1970s, when the underground mines were closing on the hill.

5:13

The city of Butte was in dire financial status.

5:18

Thus it was proposed to form a city and county collective government.

5:25

So the revenue from the Pip mine that was and is in the county would come to the city county government.

5:37

But what we have is the city government imposing its regulations on the county and not providing adequate services and community and services.

5:54

The res the resident basically asked the commissioner, what can we do about it?

6:02

The commissioner basically replied, get equal representation.

6:09

To which the resident replied, or separate from the city-county government.

6:16

To which the commissioner replied, we can't do this.

6:22

To which the resident replied, yes, we can.

6:28

And I will go to the state of Montana.

6:32

To which I will add an organize a plebiscite vote of only the voters in the contested territory.

6:46

So during your discussion on 9A1, I have a few questions for you.

6:54

So may I suggest that you determine.

7:07

Should there be six commissioner districts?

7:12

Three from the city divided by city population, and three from the county divided by county population.

7:25

Thank you.

7:28

Thank you, Mr.

7:29

Banderob.

7:31

Any other public comment on any item on the agenda?

7:39

We didn't uh since there's no other uh live person or in person to provide public comment, we did receive uh written public comment from Mr.

7:47

Ken Neighbor.

7:48

He's uh offered us several pages regarding his recommendations uh for different things that he heard at the open house session at Butte Brewing this last week.

7:59

And so I would like to go ahead and have copies made for each commissioner and then um Ms.

8:05

Conn, if you could please note and place on file his comments.

8:09

Um I don't want to read them tonight because they are lengthy, but we will post them with our agenda and minutes on the website.

8:17

Um is there any questions or any difficulties with that strategy?

8:22

Okay, all right.

8:23

So I'll make sure that you get these and get copies to everyone, and then also please uh post on our website.

8:31

All right, public comment on anything not on the agenda but within the jurisdiction of the study commission.

8:40

Okay, excellent.

8:41

So moving on to our approval of minutes.

8:44

Um we have the meetings that were held on July 28th and August 4th to be approved, and then I would like to place on file that there were no minutes for the July 14th, and please also post that with our agendas, um, Ms.

9:03

Conn.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
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Public Engagement████████████████20%
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Budget Equity Analysis██2%
Public Safety██2%
Environmental Protection1%
Summary of Proceedings

Butte-Silver Bow Study Commission Meeting - August 25, 2025

The Butte-Silver Bow Study Commission met on August 25, 2025, to receive public comment, hear a presentation on the council-manager form of government, review feedback from recent public open houses, and discuss rural representation and future outreach. No formal votes on charter changes were taken, but minutes from previous meetings were approved with corrections.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of Minutes (July 28 and August 4): The commission unanimously approved the minutes with two corrections: Commissioner Casey requested adding the reason for no minutes for July 14 (meeting was not held), and Commissioner Shaw submitted a list of typos to be fixed.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Bon Banderob (2601 Grand Avenue) referenced a conversation at the Melrose listening session between a resident and Commissioner Callahan. He asked the commission to consider whether six commissioner districts should be created—three from the city and three from the county—to equalize representation.
  • Written comment from Ken Neighbor offered several recommendations based on the open house at Butte Brewing. The commission agreed to copy and post the comment online.

Presentation: Council-Manager Form of Government

  • Debbie Todd, a former Bartlesville, Oklahoma city council member (population ~38,000), shared her firsthand experience. She advocated for a council-manager form, arguing it prevents concentrating power in a single elected executive and clearly delineates responsibilities: the council sets policy, the appointed manager handles daily operations and personnel. She noted that Bartlesville's council elected a mayor from among themselves, who casts a vote equal to other members and breaks ties. Disadvantages she identified were few, though she acknowledged that city managers may view the role as a stepping stone. She emphasized the importance of hiring a manager who prioritizes community needs.
    • Commissioner Thielen asked for confirmation that she believes a manager form is better than an elected chief executive; Ms. Todd affirmed.
    • Commissioner Shaw asked about managers using the position as a stepping stone; Ms. Todd said some do, but good managers often stay until retirement.
    • Questions were also asked about ward-based elections, wage concerns, and the hiring/firing process.

Discussion Items

  • Open House Feedback: Commissioners shared observations from the two listening sessions:
    • Melrose: Residents expressed dissatisfaction with services (road maintenance, law enforcement) relative to taxes. Many asked about separating city and county government, though one resident reported positive service response. Others offered solutions like contracting with a local plow operator or assigning an officer living in Divide.
    • Butte Brewing: Attendees focused on the executive branch form of government, commissioners, neighborhood councils, and the fire issue. Commissioners noted that the structured introduction and roundtable format worked well for one-on-one conversations.
    • Commissioner Callahan clarified that his earlier comment at Melrose—that separation from city-country government could not happen—was based on a discussion with Dan Clark, not his own opinion. He supports looking at all options.
    • Commissioner Dennehy opposed separation of city and county, calling it too expensive and implausible, but supported improving rural representation.
    • Commissioner Steffen called for data on rural population growth and tax revenue to inform representation discussions.
  • Future Outreach:
    • The commission discussed expanding the survey via county employee email lists and large private employers. Ms. Conn reported that survey compilation is being handled by Shanna.
    • Two concurrent events on Thursday, August 28: an open house at the EOC and a tailgate at Montana Tech. Commissioners assigned themselves: Ms. Conn will attend the tailgate to distribute postcards; others will split. Commissioner Steffen noted a QR code for the survey will be shown on the Jumbotron, but he cannot participate as a commissioner that evening.
    • Party Line radio appearances were discussed for August 27 (Commissioners Silk and Thielen) and the last Wednesday of each month.
    • An op-ed summarizing public feedback to date is planned after the next round of meetings.

Key Outcomes

  • Minutes approved with corrections (Casey's reason and Shaw's typos).
  • Total spending on open houses: $1,763 (rentals, refreshments, printing, advertising).
  • Research assignment: Ms. Conn will gather data on population, tax rates, and growth rates to support rural representation discussions.
  • Legal question raised: Commissioner Dennehy asked whether the commission would draft separate charter changes or pose a general form-of-government question for a vote. The commission noted that charter amendments go to voters, and if a form change is approved, the commission must stay on for 90 days to write a transition plan. Clarification will be sought from Sean Peterson (legal counsel) or the Anaconda Study Commission.
  • Next meeting: September 8, 2025, 6:00 p.m. The commission hopes to host representatives from the Anaconda-Deer Lodge Study Commission.

Meeting Transcript

Okay, I'll call the meeting of August 25th study commission to order, please. Can we have roll call? Lori Casey? Cindy Purdue Dolan is excused. Ben D Ben Thielen. Matt Steffen. Um Raylan Brandle. Present. Dan Denehy. Chad Selk. Excused. Cindy Shaw here. And Mary McCormack. Excuse me. Thank you. Can we have our Pledge of Allegiance and Prayer, please? And to the Republic for which it stands. Okay. First up, public comment on any item on the agenda. All right, Bon Rogue, 2601 Grand Avenue. Reference, probably comments on items on the agenda. The subject conversation at the Melrose listening session. Item nine point eight. Well, I witnessed this conversation between a resident of Melrose and the Council of Commissioner, Commissioner. With this body. First a bit of background. As you are all aware, in the 1970s, when the underground mines were closing on the hill. The city of Butte was in dire financial status. Thus it was proposed to form a city and county collective government. So the revenue from the Pip mine that was and is in the county would come to the city county government. But what we have is the city government imposing its regulations on the county and not providing adequate services and community and services. The res the resident basically asked the commissioner, what can we do about it? The commissioner basically replied, get equal representation. To which the resident replied, or separate from the city-county government. To which the commissioner replied, we can't do this. To which the resident replied, yes, we can. And I will go to the state of Montana. To which I will add an organize a plebiscite vote of only the voters in the contested territory. So during your discussion on 9A1, I have a few questions for you. So may I suggest that you determine. Should there be six commissioner districts? Three from the city divided by city population, and three from the county divided by county population. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Banderob. Any other public comment on any item on the agenda? We didn't uh since there's no other uh live person or in person to provide public comment, we did receive uh written public comment from Mr. Ken Neighbor. He's uh offered us several pages regarding his recommendations uh for different things that he heard at the open house session at Butte Brewing this last week. And so I would like to go ahead and have copies made for each commissioner and then um Ms.

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