Okay, I'd like to call the September eighth meeting of the Beats of Rebo Study Commission.

If we can have a roll call, um, but before that, we have two new members for our ex officio, Annie and McKinsey, and I'd like to let them introduce themselves, and then they'll take our roll call, please.

I I'm McKenzie Christensen.

Hi, I'm Annie.

I work in the Chief's office as well as McKenzie.

Um, and we're here to help you guys.

And if you guys have any changes of the current minutes of how they've been going, just let us know.

We'll try and do it to the best ability of how you guys are looking for it.

Okay.

So roll call.

Okay, Raylan Brandle.

Lori Casey.

Here.

Dan Denigy?

Here.

Mary McCormick.

Excuse.

Cindy Purdue Dolan.

Here.

Cindy Shaw.

Present.

Chad Silk.

Here.

Matt Steppen.

He's excused.

Ben Thielen.

Hello.

He's here.

Thank you.

Let's have our pledge of allegiance and prayer, please.

And to the Republic for which it stands.

One nation under God.

Indivisible with liberty and mighty God, we implore you to make the policy slide if you make decisions which are briefly back on the social community.

Reference public comment on any item on the agenda.

Item nine Anu Business.

Several comments were made by the Council of Commissioners, Commissioners when appearing before this body, indicating that if you are going to be recommended going to full-time commissioners, you should include additional Commissioner responsibilities in the Charter.

Therefore, we the Greeley Neighborhood Community Development Corporation Inc.

would like to rem recommend that in addition to the current stated powers and duties you consider adding under 3.03.

Then insert a new section 3.03.02 responsibilities.

Coordinate and facilitate the formation, approval, funding, and implementation of neighborhood improvement projects in all neighborhoods within his or her district, improvement projects to include but not limited to infrastructure, safety, enrichment, enhancement, development, economic and land use, other services, coordinate an annual district, neighborhood community improvement council assembly to select a district delegate to the Greater Butte Silver Bowl, Butte Silver Bowl Community Council.

Respectfully submitted for your consideration and action.

Thank you, Mr.

Banderob.

Moving on to public comment on anything not on the agenda but within the jurisdiction of the study commission.

I got a comment.

Please bear with me, I'll get a little case of the vertical.

Our Edward Banderob 2601 Grand Avenue Butte.

Public comment on any item not on the agenda.

Transparency and checks and balances.

In that transparency is one of the concerns listed on your open house poster board.

And reality transparency is a part of the checks and balances issue.

Both a mayor's and a manager's first responsibility is to the government.

Both the terms mayor and manager carry a city government connotation.

We have a city-county government, not just a city government.

A chair of the Council of Commissioners first responsibility is to the people.

May I recommend that you seriously consider using the term chair of the council of commissioners, elected at large in place of a mayor.

Respectfully submitted for your consideration in action.

Thank you.

I'll be around if you got any questions later.

Thank you, Mr.

Banderob.

Ms.

Dolan.

Thank you.

Yeah, I was just going to ask that question.

Is there a spot in the agenda tonight that we could ask Mr.

Banderob some questions with regard to this handout?

I just have a couple, but I know it's probably, I don't know what the procedure is.

There's usually not a back and forth for public comment, but you let me know.

Thanks.

You know, considering that Mr.

Banderob has been an active member of our meetings and bringing forth information to us, if it's okay with the commission, I would entertain those questions now if there's any objection.

Let's say so.

Okay.

Just I would I don't want to hold him up if he wants to leave the meeting.

So Mr.

Bandrab is Dolan has a couple of questions for you.

Okay.

You can you can come back up, we'll take them now.

Okay.

Okay.

So do you want to ask me to ask you a couple of questions?

Sorry.

Um, thank you, Mr.

Banderob.

I wanted to ask you a couple of questions as I'm reading this document you gave to us, and thank you so much for your engagement in this process.

It's very valuable.

Go ahead.

Okay, so I'm I was reading when you wanted to add a new section to the Charter 3.03.02 responsibilities.

I'm just I I'd like you to tell us a little bit more with regard to community councils, and just reading through this quickly as you presented this just now.

I I guess I'm trying to wrap my head around I we certainly don't need more bureaucracy in Butte Silver Bow, and and I think the community council idea is a good one, but my question is about this coordination of the annual district neighborhood community improvement council's assembly to select a district delegate to a greater silver bow community council.

So you are you recommending community councils in the different districts, I'll bet if they change for each commissioner, and then in addition to that, add on another top layer of a city-county-wide community council.

I would think that's another layer of bureaucracy that we don't need.

So I just wanted you to explain that to us if you could.

Okay, first of all, I disagree with you on the layer of democra of bureaucracy that we don't need.

Please note how many citizens you have sitting here in the council chambers this evening.

We had what I call full cooperation and support until such time as the government didn't recognize that additional bureaucracy.

And then the people went, what the hell's the use?

And I do mean excuse the French.

So that's number one.

The proposal that I bring before you're sorry, I've got a few seconds and it'll go by.

Now, we are not trying to take away the decision-making process from the council of commissioners.

That is what they are elected for, is to make decisions.

What we are trying to do is establish a channel, an official channel, whereby the people can bring together consensual recommendations to present to the council of commissioners, instead of running up here every time there's a hot item and jumping up and down, etc.

Each neighborhood, excuse me, has specific problems.

What we're proposing is that we have neighborhood community improvement councils focused on improvements within their neighborhood.

We've got the Greeley plan sitting on a shelf for 15 years.

One thing got done.

But the first priority item never did get done.

We're still working on it.

That's to be officially recognized by the government.

So that's what this is all about.

15 years later, and as Laurie told me in one of the open houses, we did it backwards.

We should have started with the community councils, and then spent fifty thousand dollars to do the neighborhood improvement improvement project.

Okay.

The county spent the money, and they we had what ten meetings or so with representatives of the of the government, representatives of the of the neighborhood, and we put together with consultants a very extensive improvement program, and that's still on the website.

We got one little job done for about 400,000.

That was half of what needed to be done, and we haven't heard from the government since.

So, number one, I disagree with you that we need don't need additional bureaucracy.

Okay, the second point, then is as I said, this is the model after the Iceland thing program, where the people come together and come to consensus of what is the most important project in their neighborhood, and then they work with their counselor or commissioner, excuse me, to put that together in a consensual manner, not 15 different proposals, but one proposal, and work that up to up the channel, up the proper channel, through the excuse me, through the chair of the council, through the manager, back to the departments, working with the departments to put together a design and program, bringing that before the council again for a public hearing, and going through the official process to have each and every project approved.

We don't have that channel, and that's what this is all about.

Ms.

Darling?

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Banderob, and I I appreciate that, and I think you're absolutely right with the fact that looking at our audience tonight, there's no one here that is not connected with the study commission, so other than yourself.

So I I I agree with you.

I I'm just worried about the greater Silverbow Community Council.

I just need to dig into that a little bit further.

But thank you so much for your continued efforts to give us this information because it's very valuable, and I really appreciate your time.

Thank you.

Okay, there's one one more little point I want to make.

We put together a three-page recommendation of how to put together a neighborhood improvement council, and that was totally voluntary, no cost whatsoever to the local government.

The community council or the Greater Butte Silver Bowl Community Council would be a no-cost to the government, voluntary group of the best of the best.

Thank you.

Mr.

Dunhey?

Ma'am chair, thank you, Mr.

Bounderob.

Thank you, Cindy.

I think one of the most important things that we can really focus on is when we do our ballots.

I think one of the our ballots suggestions and recommendations are going to be is to set up community council, neighborhood councils.

And that should be part of what our voters should be aware of.

They should be making the decision of whether or not the structure that Mr.

Banderob has talked about is important to them, or whether or not they don't think that community or neighborhood councils are important.

But I again, since we are doing recommendation, my thought is since Mr.

Banderob has been here and since I've been an advocate for the neighborhood councils uh since we started our deliberation, that that has to go as one of the ballot issues to the public.

And once and for all uh giving the people's comments and their vote, we would do that.

Now how we set that up is still in practice.

We still have to do that.

We still have to form formulate that, but there it has been other neighborhood councils in a number of other local governments in Montana that has been part of their charter.

So frankly, I think we are still a little bit too early in terms of what the structure should be, but it has to be uh from my point of view, one of the ballot issues that will be part of uh our final recommendation.

I'll take Ms.

Shaw and then I'll take you, Mr.

Thielen.

Uh thank you, Madam Chair.

And uh, this isn't about Ed Singh, I was just gonna come make uh uh present some comments, so go ahead, Ben.

Okay, thank you.

Uh I just have a couple questions for Dan and for Ed, um, or at least one.

How many of these organizations are gonna have to be within the in the city?

How many neighborhood do you guys see?

Are is that addressed to me, Ben?

Is that addressed to me?

Yeah, that would be fine.

Yeah, I think depending on how we're gonna structure the council of commissioners and whether or not we're gonna reduce from 12 to 6.

I would imagine that there would be six community neighborhood councils in each one of those districts.

I'm sorry, one in those commissioned districts.

Yeah, I think.

Okay.

You asked how many are there now?

There's one now, which is just so you understand that.

Uh the idea was in Iceland, the locals came together.

So to us, the neighborhood community councils should be determined by the needs and different situation in each neighborhood.

There may be more than one or two or three in any given district.

I don't think you're gonna have Melrose and Ramsey and the same neighborhood community council.

You're not going to have Greeley on one side of the tracks and racetrack on the other side of the tracks being grand in the same neighborhood community council because our needs are different than what the other side of the street is.

Now, as far that's what I propose here, that then those four or five within a district get together in an annual assembly and select one delegate to go to the Greater Butte Silverville Community Council, which would be the advisory council to the council of commissioners, and they could bring forth official recommendations from the different neighborhoods as long as they're brought to a consensual and channeled through the proper channels.

All right.

Um Ms.

Shaw.

Okay.

Thank you, Mr.

Banderob.

Thank you.

I'll push the thank you, Madam Chair.

Yeah, I just have a I have two uh surveys that I can give to Shanna later today if that's sounds good.

And then I do have a public comment.

I don't need to read it in the record, but it's uh it's one of the public comments that will be distributed to all of us I appear apparently and also be on the website.

So I think I'll give that to Annie.

Well, here it's just gonna fly to you.

Good catch.

Thank you.

Thank you, Ms.

Shaw.

Okay, moving on.

Um let's look at the approval of minutes of the meeting held the 25th of August 2025.

If we can look at those, please.

Ms.

Shaw.

Uh thank you, Madam Chair.

I I did find some uh corrections that need to be made on the minutes, and I just made a copy and made the corrections on here, and I can just give them to Annie.

And uh in the meantime, I would approve the minutes of August 25th, 25 with the corrections as noted.

Would that be okay?

Um we say we have a motion from Ms.

Shaw and a second from Mr.

Dunahy.

Um Ms.

Casey, you had a question?

Yes, madam chair.

Uh were they just spelling corrections or what type of corrections, Cindy?

You know, were there anything major change about the minutes or it wouldn't take long to do this, but uh spelling mostly uh our chair chairman Brandle's name was misspelled.

There's a section, there's a little piece in here that I understand what it's supposed to be, but I I guessed at it that just that sort of thing.

So they should be corrected, I believe, once we have the final to Ms.

Casey's point.

Is there anything that it changes the decision outcome vote?

It's rather grammar misspellings, correct?

That's correct.

You're right.

There is no nothing that uh would change or not change what the meaning should be.

Thanks.

Just housekeeping.

Thank you.

Thank you for that follow-up.

Do we so we have a motion and a second?

All in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Any opposed?

Okay, our motion carries.

Thank you for approving those minutes.

Moving on, we have our correspondence and our study commission update.

Uh for the good of the order.

We we already introduced McKinsey and Annie who will be tag teaming to make sure that all of our needs are met um going forward.

And any questions that we might have can go through them.

And then they will also be helping Ms.

Adams with the public outreach pieces and things that we have ongoing.

Um and then Mr.

Denehee and I will also tag team to make sure that we are getting all the right information to to you as well.

So we can keep our ball moving quickly because we are a little bit behind with meetings that we missed.

So we appreciate you stepping in and thank you very much for that.

Um were there any questions or concerns that I could address at this time?

Madam Chair.

Mr.

Denny?

Just housekeeping with Annie and McKinsey.

Um, I will be working with them since I'm retired.

So uh I'm looking forward to having that uh interaction with both of the ladies.

They're very good and very competent people.

So we are moving from our public hearings and our um comments that are we're getting from the public, our listening sessions next is public hearings.

Then we're getting into the the meat of what we're gonna do, and that's gonna be a lot of looking at the uh templates that uh MSU has provided us, changing those language.

I'm sure the county attorney has been working on some of the comments that we have given him, and he will report back.

He was going to report back, I guess tonight, but he's he's ill-cutton, so can't find the beamer in after, you know, from Male Cutton.

But anyhow, he'll be back.

So but I I I will be committed to help uh with uh they're probably gonna help me more than I'll help them uh with Annie and and McKinsey and uh to keep this rolling in terms of what the formats are and templates are and make sure that the the commission understands what we're doing because this is the time when we have to have a preliminary look at our uh ballot issues and charter changes and those sorts of things.

So we're going to move into a very quick and very busy work and with both of our our ex-official members will we'll be able to do that.

I think I had Ms.

Casey and then I'll take you, Ms.

Dolan.

Uh just a question.

Have we um advertised for our September 24th public hearing?

It's on our agenda tonight and it would have to get moved quickly.

That would have to be advertised tomorrow, so I'm gonna say we're gonna have to move it to make the 15-day um deadline for advertising because it would have had to show up in the paper tomorrow on that uh to do that.

And then to Mr.

Banderov's, I just my understanding of the first public hearing is to gather more public comment on what the public wants changes to the charter and not a release of our recommendations at that public hearing.

Is that correct?

That is correct.

We are it it's a formal public hearing so that they can give us feedback and we would have our you know our background, the the general scope of what we've looked at and available for the public to review, but any item that the public would want to comment on would be at that formal hearing as well.

Um back to the timing, Ms.

Casey.

So let's check with Ms.

Cohn because she had wanted to make sure that she had the advertisement done, so let's double check with that.

Um but it would have to be out tomorrow in the newspaper, correct?

Yes, and I'm not sure what I don't get the Montana standard, so I'm not sure what days they actually run legal notices anymore.

Okay, given that and given the fact that we are uncertain as to if things were posted, we probably need to move the date, which is unfortunate.

Um so Ms.

Shaw.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

And I was talking to Barb Davies about some other things, and she mentioned that Kim had contacted her about doing this uh doing the the notices.

So maybe something is in the works.

I'm just texting Barb right now to see if that in fact did happen.

But she I remember that specifically that anyway, whatever reason, she wasn't sure, but Kim did notify her about doing some notice on something.

I imagine that's what it would be, but I will let you know as soon as I hear back from her.

That would be nice.

Thanks.

Ms.

Dolan.

Thank you.

Um I I think here's my conundrum at the moment is having this public hearing is wonderful, and it's obviously a set in stone is we have to do it at a certain point.

But we're still waiting to have a present a couple presentations, one being Anaconda.

You know, I'd like to have someone from Anaconda, and I don't know where that has been dropped, you know, is obviously we wanted to pause because of the shooting what happened in Anaconda.

We wanted to give time for that.

But now um, you know, to talk about the charter in Anaconda because they're a city-county uh consolidation government plus the fire piece and they have it out of their charter.

So these are things that I want to learn more about, and I'm sure there are a lot of the public wants to learn about as well.

And also possibly bringing in someone to talk about forensic auditing um as that might be another item.

Um I know Ben had meant mentioned that before.

Um, but some of these presentations can we have before a public hearing?

Is that possible?

I just don't know schedule-wise if what what will work because I think the more information we have going into that the better.

Mr.

Denehy.

Madam Chair, thank you.

Uh Cindy, I think we can have the public hearing and at a later date, bring the bring the folks in from Anaconda.

Uh before Kim left, she did make contact with uh the Anaconda folks, and at the time last week, they never returned her uh call.

So I think this has been a couple of times that we've asked them to come in and and provide us with information and they are um haven't yet.

So given the fact that they're probably busy in anaconda, um, I would say that we continue on with the with the public hearing notice to have that as we said, because we are a little bit behind the eight ball, but uh uh also having the people from Anaconda Deer Lodge, um, both the city manage or the chief executive and their commissioners, and I also also think they tr uh Kim tried to get a hold of their fire department on how that God bless you uh how that was uh organized and how that is run.

So I would suggest that we continue on with the public hearing uh and absolutely have Anaconda Deer Lodge here for another informational meeting.

Um can I ask you, Dan?

Um do has it been I obviously I missed the last couple weeks because of work and vacation, but um is there been discussion about where we're going to have the public hearing?

Um maybe here or I mean I just w obviously we were trying to get out to where the folks are, but here.

Okay.

Thank you.

Um Mr.

Dunnehy, I I would agree in whole regarding we can wait on the other presentations.

I think there could be we could information gather forever, really.

Um and so I would like to to have that formal public hearing and but looking at our timeline, it might have to move to October 6th.

Um given that we need to have that notice um done ASAP.

Um so if we approve the public notice language tonight, then maybe we can get it noticeed for October 6th.

Would that be excuse me?

Mr.

Dunnehy?

Yeah, Madam Chair.

Um and Laurie, maybe you can help me with this.

I'm looking at the the public hearing.

It said the published dates would be September 11th, right?

So that'll be Wednesday or Thursday, and then again on the 18th would will be the following Thursday.

And then it's scheduled for September 29th.

Is that where we missed the seven-day publication?

I guess I thought it was scheduled for September 24th.

So when I was counting backwards, that's where I came up with that it had to be September 9th.

So that's what our um I thought that was maybe I was looking at the wrong date then.

Okay.

So we might be okay then if it is the September 29th.

Yeah, the public hearing draft said that the public hearing will be on the 29th of September at 5 p.m.

here in the in the courthouse uh in this in the uh council commissioners chambers where we're sitting.

So I'm going back and I think we meet the 11th, the 7th, and the 29th meet the public requirements.

So if we can get this in, Annie or or Mac in by Wednesday or Thursday to the pup to the standard.

I think we can continue to have the published date on this.

We could change it too.

I mean nobody's seen this.

Um Madam Chair, I was just wondering if we if a suggestion would be that we start at maybe 5.30 or 515, given that m a lot of folks work till 5 o'clock.

That since it is a formal public hearing, maybe we should adjust that time just to give the anyone a chance to get from there.

Okay, so before we let's let's back up really quick.

So it looks like we do have enough time.

Um Kim had those dates correct, the 11th and the 18th, and the 29th is the scheduled hearing date.

I I did not hear you say the 24th.

So I would have caught that as well.

Thank you for catching that, Mr.

Dunahy.

Um so she was saying notices hereby given that we shall conduct a public hearing at its regular meeting on Monday, September 29th at 5 p.m.

We're looking we'd like to change that to 5 30.

I think that's a very good idea as well, since we have um people working as was stated.

And then any interested persons may appear and speak about the review of the Butte Silverbow Charter and suggest changes.

Comments may be given orally at the hearing or submitted in writing to the Butte Silverbow Local Study Commission.

Uh our address is listed prior to 5 p.m.

on September.

Would that be 5 30 p.m.?

Yes.

Okay.

5 30 p.m.

on September 29th.

Any person requiring accommodation, please contact James Olet no later than 1 p.m.

on Friday, September 26th to advise us of the nature of the accommodation.

Um then the telephone number and his his email are correct.

And then publish date September 11th and September 18th.

And then standard approved publication to be sent to Butte Silverbow Local Stuff Study Commission attention.

Annie or McKenzie, who would like to be there?

Okay.

Thank you.

Thanks, Annie.

So attention would be Annie Boyd.

Okay.

Annie Boyd.

Okay.

I do believe that uh Kim had already figured out the purchase order business, but you also understand that that piece too and just build to our account instead.

Um so I will make sure to forward this to you once it's approved tonight.

Ms.

Dolan.

Um thank you, Madam Chair.

Just a quick question.

Do we want to add on that announcement that we're gathering public comment and to so folks are aware and not upset when they come to the public hearing that there's not going to be a dialogue?

There's just gonna be uh unless I'm wrong with that, um, that we're just gathering comment and we can't do a back and forth with each constituent that comes up.

We're just gathering comment, or is there an opportunity for that back and forth?

Um there's not an opportunity for back and forth outlet.

Um those who have led the um public comment session forever.

Would you like to talk about that, Ms.

I was gonna say it before the public hearing is clearly stated that there is no dialogue and also that you know they might even say to if don't repeat what everybody else has said kind of thing, but yeah, it it's clearly stated in a very formal setting.

But yeah, it is clearly stated in a very formal setting.

And if people don't know that ahead of time, it they'll find it out right away.

And no, we do not allow any dial dialogue even if maybe out in the hallway, but you know, not on the floor.

To that end, Ms.

Dolan, I think it would be appropriate to have a piece on our website that describes what the um public hearing is like.

And that is easy as a paragraph that here's how this goes.

Please be prepared with your comments or provide them written.

And we won't be able to dialogue with you at the meeting.

That might be approachable.

If we could add that perhaps they're writing the notes, so we'll we can get that.

Ms.

Casey.

Madam Chair, is there I think we need to wordsmith that sentence.

Any persons may appear and speak about the review of the charter.

I I I just don't think that's very clear, but I'm kind of being brained of what would be better because we are really taking comments about potential changes, if any, or things.

I don't know.

I just think that's I just don't know if that could be uh said a little better.

Any maybe it's just me and my reading tonight.

How about if we say I'm sorry?

Go ahead, Mr.

Denny.

Uh how about if we say that any interesting persons may appear and speak about current and future uh change in the buttons were both charger, a charter and suggest changes to the charter.

Is it current and future?

Is that still doesn't sound good, is it?

Madam Chair, maybe something along the lines of um I would like folks to come to the public hearing to learn more.

I mean, just even learn about what possible changes or no changes at all.

I mean, I just want to make sure we cover all the bases, but don't get too wordy.

Um, and just say, you know, interested persons to learn more about um the charter and possible changes to it or something very simple, so it's not confusing.

Yeah, I think we have a call to action though, because we're asking them to come and speak.

So um yeah, this is a little sticky, isn't it?

Mr.

Silk, Madam Chair.

I don't know if I don't know if this sounds any better.

All interested individuals are invited to attend and provide input on the review of the Sorbo charter, including suggestions for potential amendments.

Can you read that again?

I will write it as you read it.

I will go ahead and copy and paste it and send it to you.

Perfect.

Well, could you say it again though for the good of the order?

All interested individuals are invited to attend and provide input on the review of the Butte Serbo charter, including suggestions for potential amendments.

Okay, so that will appear in the OneDrive document really quickly here.

So we do need to approve the notice, and I would call for a vote to approve this notice as amended by Mr.

Silk.

Mr.

Thielen.

Motion to approve by Thielen.

Is there a second?

Second by Shaw.

All in favor?

Any opposed?

Our motion carries.

Thank you, folks.

Thanks for those suggestions as well.

Okay.

So that um kind of changed around our agenda a little bit, but that's okay.

We jumped around.

Um so with our unfinished business, we have our public outreach discussion, and Ms.

Adams, you are here, so did you want to give us a quick overview of how things have gone and maybe if there are any questions for her.

Uh thank you, Madam Chair.

Um I did prepare just a summary, so I will hand these out.

Um so this just kind of summarizes the open houses that we've had to date, the um, you know, number of folks we've had at each open house, um, some of the other events that have happened, civic meetings that have been attended.

There's a summary of the community-wide survey to date.

So that's kind of bottom of page one and page two and page three.

And I just thought obviously the survey is gonna continue to go on for another month or so, but I thought this might be helpful for everyone to see where those comments are kind of coming in so far.

Um we've had about 157 folks take that survey.

Um, and then you can just kind of read through at your leisure the summaries.

Um we have two remaining open houses, uh, one on the 11th at Montana Tech and one on the 16th in Ramsey.

So for the Montana Tech meeting, I do have parking passes and a map for any commissioners that plan to attend that.

So I just print it out enough for everyone, so we can just pass those around to.

So whoever plans to attend has a parking pass.

And then I do think for these last two meetings, we want to change the format just a little bit.

We talked about having an open house format where people can kind of come and go at their leisure, have conversations with commissioners, but I think what we've seen is most people show up pretty close to on time and they mostly leave about the same time.

So at the last meeting at the emergency operations center, the commissioners gave a little bit of an overview presentation, about 10 or 15 minutes to everyone that was there, and then we broke for discussions, and I feel like that worked really well.

Um so I'd like to continue that for the next two meetings, particularly at Montana Tech.

I hope that we're gonna get a lot of faculty and staff.

Um, and we also may get students, hopefully.

Um, but they may or may not be really engaged in this process.

So I think the commissioners that are there, if they can you know give a brief 10-minute overview um, maybe about 15 minutes in to the meeting, um, that would be really good.

And we'll do the same thing in Ramsey.

Ms.

Dolan.

Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you so much.

This is such an interesting um read so far.

Um do you know how many people were at the emergency operations center?

Yeah, I didn't want to put the number in there because I didn't have those sign-in sheets right in front of me, but we had about 20, 22 somewhere right in there.

Other questions?

Mr.

Sh Mr.

Silk.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Shana, for this info.

I was really looking forward to see the the results of the survey.

And uh 157 participants.

I don't know if that's what we wanted.

I think we all want more, but that's still good feedback.

Did we ever decide on when we're going to um stop the survey?

And with that being said, the only reason I bring it up, I think it's so valuable to us for data that I just my opinion.

I think we should the longer the better, but I don't know if there's a reason why we needed to cut it off at a certain time or not.

But um I don't know if anyone can answer that or not, or if it was up to us.

Um yeah, good question, Commissioner Silk.

Uh we we had talked about cutting it off sometime in October, just so there's time to kind of evaluate the feedback and it can go into your first report in November.

Um it's really up to you guys.

I know some of these dates have been a little bit fluid.

I I don't think we've had a hard um cutoff date that we have projected out into the public.

So I think we can still kind of decide what makes the most sense.

Um I will say it's it's pretty easy to summarize the results.

So that was not as tedious as maybe I thought it was going to be even.

Um and this is this is obviously just a really brief summary, like you will get a more comprehensive summary with all of the tables that show all the results, and then you'll get every single comment.

So what this doesn't have is everybody's individual comments, which you will get.

Um, but yeah, I mean, really, the cutoff date is kind of up to the commission, I think.

Ms.

Shaw.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I I agree.

I think that up to the last minute, we should just be taking comments.

And we can tabulate them as we go along.

And you know, they'll probably peter out after a while.

But I think the survey is amazing.

And I just took it myself and handing you mine tonight.

Yeah, I I don't see any reason to cut it off to be honest.

And I did notice that the QR code with a little statement was in our water bill.

So that's a lot of people.

Now, of course, my guy who has a uh he has a uh well.

He kind of was a little nose was out of joint.

He said, How about us people dwells?

I said, Well, here's a survey.

But yeah, I think that that's a real blanket uh process that went through.

I didn't realize we're gonna have it in our water bill.

That was nice.

So good good job.

Ms.

Dolan.

Um thank you, madam chair.

Yes, I think I think you're you guys are absolutely right.

The longer the better, the more information we get, the better.

Is there a way then in our November report that we have to file that we could put in a uh thing that says here is some in the information of the survey, but we're still tallying, we're still asking for comment, so it's not a final.

Is that something that we can do?

I think we can put the the survey in the report, but we might change the survey, you know, after we go through this process.

There might be some you know tweaking or something that we might do in case you know, let's say the top issue changes according to this this feedback, then maybe we'd want to change the survey.

I'm just trying to think nimbly.

Um, Ms.

Adams, do you have a opinion on that?

Um sorry.

Uh Madam Chair, I I I've been kind of thinking the same thing.

I mean, you may want to cut this off at some point and have a new survey.

You might want to test out some of the ballot issues or some of the ballot language.

I mean, this may morph into a different type of survey.

Um I would I would think we could run it until the end of October if we want to, which would probably be fine.

Given that it would cut and paste into the report, probably.

Ms.

Shaw.

Thank you, Ms.

I I'm just thinking we'll we need to make sure we add in the uh public comments in our on our public hearing, but to be honest, you might have duplications.

They might have already filled out a survey, and then you know you're counting them twice.

I know it might not be a lot, but you know what?

We might have quite a few people at the public hearing.

Just the thought.

I think both are valid.

If somebody is willing to give a survey and then come and appear in person, then they really want to be heard.

I think it's okay.

It's not gonna change the data enough that we are skewing all the way to the other side.

I would I would think we'd be okay.

Ms.

Adams, is there anything further you'd like to add in this public outreach?

Uh no, I think that's it.

All right, excellent.

So um on Montana Tech's uh at November 11th, it's noon to 1.30, and then I think I can send an all-staff, all faculty email if we have that available to get people there.

I just have to run it through the right channel, so maybe tomorrow you and I can coordinate that to get out to the campus.

Okay, yep.

Sounds good.

Ms.

Dolan.

Thank you, madam chair.

Just an FYI.

Um, unfortunately or fortunately, uh, View Silver Bow does have a 9-11 ceremony that's being taken that's is taking place on Thursday, September 11th at 1230 at Stodden Park.

And then um, or in if within Clement weather it'd be at the American Legion.

So unfortunately, I will not be able to attend yet another listening session.

I really apologize, but I will be at that ceremony, and I wonder how many others would be at that.

Um I we didn't have that information.

We didn't know when the 9-11 ceremony was going to happen back when this was created as an event.

So just FYI on that thank you.

I think every single open house has had some other major conflict with it, and I I'm suspecting that we're gonna have to have that as just the operation of this open houses.

So thank you for that.

Maybe we can bring send you with some survey QR codes and you can hand those out.

Yeah.

All right, and then the next um open house after that is Ramsey on the 16th from 5:30 to 7:30.

So looking forward to those.

Thank you.

All right.

Um, our party line, we are scheduled the last Wednesday of every month.

Our next one is scheduled for September 24th, and Mary McCormick said she would be there.

Who was her partner?

Mr.

Thielen, is it you?

Okay.

So you're gonna go twice in a row right away.

All right.

I like it.

Thank you very much.

Yeah, September 24th.

Ms.

Dolan.

Sorry, Raylan, but just another quick question.

On the public outreach summary that Shenna just gave to us, it says Ramsey 916.

So is it the 16th or the 18th?

I just want to make sure so I can actually attend one.

It's the 16th.

I appreciate you asking again.

I I keep doing this with the dates as well.

They're all in my calendar and I have to double check.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

Um I was also, I wanted to give a quick um overview.

I met with the Burroughs Club on October 28th.

That that meeting went really well.

Gave an overview both of my current work at Ripple, and then also gave an overview of the R work that we're doing and gave out all of the QR codes, and they promised me they would get their surveys in.

So it went well.

It was a nice lunch.

I appreciated them very much, and they had great questions.

And there was there seemed to be some good support for the directions that were going.

They liked that we we were considering each issue separately.

Um neighborhood councils came up in that meeting, and we're we're highly recommended by that group as well.

So I think we're on the right track in terms of what people are are hearing, what they're interested in, and what directions they'd like to see us go.

So good work, folks.

Um I don't have an op-ed update unless anybody else does.

Mr.

Steppen is out tonight.

Okay.

Anything else in our unfinished business.

Mr.

Demah.

Just for our team members at that table.

If we can get the public hearing notice in this week, that'll be great.

Thank you so much.

Okay, on to our new business.

We had the approval of the notice for public hearing, which we did ahead of this.

So thank you for that approval.

And then that will get published right away.

Our our crew is ready, they're gonna do it.

They've heard from us many times now, so we're ready to go.

And then we have we'll have the edited version to you no sooner, no later than you know, first thing tomorrow morning, right?

When you get to your inbox.

Um that we didn't cover, Ms.

Shaw.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Uh Shannon, the uh Kawanis uh lunch meeting, what date is that?

Is I thought it was the 17th, but you have 18th here.

Just curious.

That will be at a doctor's appointment in Missoula on the 18th.

So it is the 17th.

Oh, thank you.

Yeah, sure.

I didn't know I I definitely will be there.

I didn't know if anybody else was gonna raise her hand to go to that one.

Thank you.

Um I'll be there with you at that one.

Yeah.

Okay.

Any other new business?

I just received a text from Ms.

McCormick that Matt Steppen was maybe scheduled to be on party line on the 24th, so we'll just coordinate.

Okay.

But if you I mean you can go, there can be three of you.

So yeah.

Yeah.

Three is fun, right?

Okay.

All right.

Um public hearing, we do not have one tonight.

We'll be practicing that very soon.

Any other scheduled matters?

Ms.

Dolan.

Thank you, madam chair.

Um, can someone speak to the KBMF radio hour opportunity when that is and uh what we need to volunteer as far as KMB.

KBMF.

Thanks.

Um I'll have Ms.

Ms.

Adams come back up, but we were invited to appear on a radio show with KBMF, and Ms.

Adams put out an email, and it looked like at the time that there were offerings, we none of us were available.

So I'll pass it on to her to see if there's any maybe another opportunity.

Um yeah, so uh thank you, Commissioner Dolan, for bringing that up.

Um yeah, so we have the opportunity if commissioners would like to go on the KBMF radio hour.

They would record um, I think about an hour of interview content and then play it later.

I think their uh news hour is Monday evenings.

Um, but they could record an interview.

Sounds like kind of any time Monday, Wednesday, Friday during normal business hours.

So if anybody wanted to volunteer to do that, we can make that happen.

I think people will get back to you via email and the recording.

Thank you for organizing all of that.

I think that's another constituency that would be valuable to reach out to for sure.

So if anybody's available we can make it happen.

Okay.

Um announcements we've already talked about our next two open houses uh September eleventh and September sixteenth so thank you all for volunteering and being at each of those we appreciate you very much.

Okay.

I would call for a motion to adjourn please.

Make a motion to adjourn.

Motion by Thielen.

Second by Dolan all in favor.

Motion carries thank you all this was quick.

I appreciate you