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Carrollton City Council Regular Worksession on August 30, 2022

City Council — Tuesday, August 30, 2022
BodyCarrollton, Texas
SessionCity Council
DateTuesday, August 30, 2022
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Speaker 1

7:48

All right.

7:49

Good evening.

7:49

We will uh start our um call to order our work session for August thirtieth.

7:55

Again, this was a um extra bonus meeting that um we initially put on the calendar for the budget season.

8:02

Uh, given the um delayed uh budget ratification, which won't be until voted on until September thirteenth.

8:10

Uh, this meeting we have a few remaining budget items to discuss.

8:14

Uh, and then we'll also hear from our Denton County appraisal district.

8:19

Um, so with that, we'll start with the Denton County appraisal district.

8:23

Uh, we have um the chairman uh, yeah, Mr.

8:27

Avlin.

8:28

Thank you so much for being here.

Speaker 2

8:33

Here's the question.

Speaker 1

8:36

So again, you all you all may have uh received some letters and read some um information um uh in the news about some of the uh issues.

8:46

Uh you'll recall we had the Denton County appraisal district.

8:49

Um, and then um uh the uh the president um here earlier this year, February this year, where they spoke about plans coming off of a tough year last year.

9:02

Um at this stage um we have our budget process.

9:06

The reason our vote is September thirteenth, which is let us forbidden, is because our certified roles are still not available from Denton County.

9:14

Um, um as a result, the um the uh their budget has been circulated and has I believe it has not passed.

9:25

Um, it's been rejected um by the requisite number of districts in uh Denton County.

9:31

Um, and so we we're wanting to uh kind of get an update from

Unassigned speaker

9:36

um

Speaker 1

9:36

Mr.

Unassigned speaker

9:36

Atwood in terms of what's happening with the district where we're at in terms of the um not only the budget in terms of what was presented and rejected, but also what is um the plans for the certified roles.

Speaker 1

9:51

Um we have our concerns, but we'll start with Mr.

9:54

Atwood and then uh we'll open up to QA.

Speaker 3

9:57

All right.

9:58

Um I went for several years on the board of um DCAD without very ever being invited to come speak.

10:08

In fact, I think I contacted Bob Scott one time and said, Hey, would you all like an update on what's going on?

10:14

And and he said, Yeah, that's a great idea, and invited me to come.

10:17

But um, yeah, I wasn't surprised to get the mayor's invite to come and speak given that the amount of publicity that the Denton CAD's been doing here lately.

10:26

Um, and mayor was kind enough to send me a list of uh things he would like me to address, so I'll start with that.

10:34

The um the board approved a budget of uh almost 18 million dollars.

10:40

When we first got the budget, it was above 18 million.

10:43

We had some areas we wanted tweaked, um, sent staff back and came back with a 17.997 million dollar budget for 2023.

10:55

Um that budget went out for ratification.

11:00

The way the process works is there's 61 taxing entities in Denton County if uh if a majority, 31 vote against ratification of the budget, then it comes back to the board for reconsideration.

11:16

Okay, and the deadline to vote on um uh D ratification uh was yesterday.

11:26

So we did have a majority vote um uh send-in resolutions uh to not adopt the budget.

11:34

So now we are back.

11:35

Our next meeting is September 13th, which will be a budget workshop to have changes to the budget, um, if any, presented to us as a board, um then we'll have our our then we have to uh it's a public hearing.

11:54

We'll have to provide notice once we settle on a budget for uh

Unassigned speaker

11:58

the

Speaker 3

11:58

board to then again vote on a new budget.

12:01

That meeting is set for late September.

12:04

Um the budget that we had originally approved, added 18 full-time uh equivalent staff members as of one twenty-three.

12:16

One of

Unassigned speaker

12:16

the

Speaker 3

12:17

questions I've heard asked is, well, why aren't you adding staff members as you go throughout the year?

12:25

Once we when we approve when when a budget gets approved, there's two elements to that budget.

12:31

One's a total dollar amount, and one is the number of full-time equivalent staff.

12:35

Okay, so we can't just if we have a budget of approved staff, we can't just halfway through the year without coming back to the tax amenities decide to add more people.

12:47

Even if we could move money around to pay them, we can't do that.

12:52

So even if this budget had been approved as set, we still can't hire that additional staff until January.

13:01

The breakdown of those 18 are set forth there.

13:05

The biggest area being um residential appraisers, adding eight additional residential appraisers.

13:13

Um, we're adding uh nine, the budget uh had the dollars for nine additional appraisal review board members.

13:25

If you don't know how that process works, once the appraises go appraisals go out, you get your notice.

13:31

April or May, you get your notice of your appraised value.

13:35

You have 30 days then to file your protest, and then the arbitration, then those protests may be resolved informally.

13:43

I'll show you some numbers on that in a minute, or they may go before an appraisal review board.

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Budget Equity Analysis███████████████15%
Property Tax Assessment█████████████13%
Personnel Matters███████████11%
Community Development Block Grant█████████9%
Governance Policy███████7%
Economic Development█████5%
Procedural████4%
Public Engagement███3%
Summary of Proceedings

Carrollton City Council Regular Worksession on August 30, 2022

On Tuesday, August 30, 2022, at 5:45 PM, the Carrollton City Council held a regular worksession in City Hall to review the agenda, discuss the Denton Central Appraisal District (DCAD), consider Woven Clinic funding, deliberate on the Fiscal Year 2023 preliminary budget and rate/fee changes, and share reports. No formal votes were taken during the worksession; final budget and tax-rate decisions were scheduled for September 13, 2022.

Denton Central Appraisal District

  • DCAD board chair Mr. Atwood reported that the DCAD board had approved a $17.997 million FY2023 budget after an initial version above $18 million. Because a majority of Denton County's 61 taxing entities voted by the August 29 deadline to reject the budget, DCAD will hold a budget workshop on September 13 and a later public hearing before adopting a revised budget.
  • The rejected budget added 18 full-time equivalent positions effective January 1, 2023, including eight residential appraisers, nine additional Appraisal Review Board members, technology improvements, and seasonal labor. A consultant had recommended 124 total FTEs; the chairman said about 81 positions are currently filled. He gave inconsistent approved-FTE figures during the discussion, citing 84 at one point and 87 later.
  • The chairman reported 107,000 protests filed in 2022, 6,000 overtime hours by staff, 25 seasonal employees, and 26 active ARB members running 6 to 7 panels that heard nearly 23,000 protests. More than three-quarters of protests were resolved informally, and residential appraised values rose about 25 percent countywide.
  • Atwood acknowledged that DCAD has failed to produce certified values by the deadline in two of the last three years. The current plan is to reach the 95 percent certification threshold by September 9. He also said the board has heard concerns about leadership and is considering retaining a law firm to conduct an internal review that would report directly to the board, not through the chief appraiser.
  • Council members raised concerns about leadership, customer service, timeliness, transparency, and the chief appraiser's rebuttal to a prior consultant review. Mayor Steve Babick said he favored a leadership change, while Councilmember Polter preferred at least a leadership review with change as a possible outcome. Several other council members supported a vote of no confidence. Council reached consensus to send a written letter or proclamation to DCAD stating those concerns; no formal city vote was taken.

Woven Clinic Funding

  • The Community Funding Committee reported on its earlier meeting with Woven Clinic. Woven serves Carrollton residents only from its Carrollton facility, and the location was chosen partly because MetroCrest Hospital Authority provides free rent. The clinic identified and corrected three ineligible reimbursement requests.
  • The committee noted that the $724,000 federal CARES Act/CDBG grant ends in September, with about $183,000 still unspent. Because it is a reimbursement-based grant, the unspent money will likely be returned to the federal government.
  • Woven President Lisa presented a proposed patient-centered medical home model with $75-per-month memberships for unlimited primary care, dietitian services, mental health care, and some labs. Low-income patients would continue with small copays. The projections showed a $380,000 deficit in 2023 and a $149,600 deficit in 2024, with a surplus expected by the third year.
  • Lisa asked the city for $380,000 in gap funding. She said $200,000 would be the minimum needed to keep the Carrollton clinic open with reduced services, and that without funding the clinic would likely have to discharge about 1,000 patients. She also said she did not want to rely on federal funds again and was actively seeking other grants.
  • Council members asked about the previous budget forecast, the difference between this model and a concierge program, women's health services, funding from other governments, and the minimum amount needed. Councilmember Polter objected to characterizing the request as a rounding error, noting that city taxpayer money would have to be shifted from other services. Several council members praised the clinic's mission. No funding decision was made; the item will be considered during the final budget discussions on September 13.

Fiscal Year 2023 Preliminary Budget and Rate/Fee Changes

  • CFO Diana Vaughn reviewed tax impacts using the average non-senior homestead taxable value, which rose from $229,000 to $250,000. If the tax rate stays flat, the average city tax increase would be about $120. A one-cent, one-and-a-half-cent, or two-cent rate cut would reduce that increase. Because of last year's senior exemption increase, seniors would remain relatively flat, and a one-and-a-half-cent cut could produce an actual reduction for seniors.
  • Staff presented a straw-man scenario that included a 1 percent one-time Carrollton Difference payment, a total employee pay increase of 5.5 percent, compensation study market adjustments, a two-cent tax-rate cut, and other proposed items. Under that scenario, pay-as-you-go capital would fall to about $1.7 million. If DCAD provides an additional $586,000 in certified value, that pay-go amount would drop to about $1.1 million.
  • Staff noted that every 1 percent general-fund pay raise costs about $608,000, while each cent of tax-rate cut costs about $1.8 million. Council members emphasized employee retention, public safety staffing, and economic development. Councilmember Sung raised concerns about economic development staffing and losing recruitment opportunities; the city manager said the master planning process should come first and that future needs might be filled through contracted services rather than new staff.
  • No budget decisions were made. Staff will incorporate final DCAD numbers on September 12 and bring revised budget pages to a long work session before the September 13 regular meeting, when the FY2023 budget, tax rate, and related decisions are scheduled for adoption.

Mayor and Council Reports

  • Councilmember Sung reported on his recent trip to South Korea, where he met international officials and shared Carrollton challenge coins. He described the trip as an opportunity to represent Carrollton internationally.
  • The mayor and others reported on I-35E Phase 2 and Silver Line construction updates, including upcoming lane closures and rail crossings. Residents can subscribe to traffic alerts by texting 35E Phase 2 to 469-353-2101.
  • A councilmember noted an issue with the floor at American Legion Post 597 in downtown Carrollton and mentioned the upcoming chili cook-off on September 10. Boards and commissions applications are due September 9.

Executive Session

  • Council moved into executive session under Texas Government Code Sections 551.071 and 551.074 for private legal consultation and deliberation on the evaluation of the City Manager. No post-executive-session action is captured in the available transcript.

Key Outcomes

  • DCAD: Council reached consensus to send a letter or proclamation expressing concerns about DCAD leadership, endorsing an independent review, and leaving leadership change as a possible outcome.
  • Woven Clinic: The funding request will be carried into the budget spreadsheet; no final funding decision was made.
  • Budget and tax rate: Final decisions were deferred to September 13, after updated DCAD certified values are received.

Meeting Transcript

All right. Good evening. We will uh start our um call to order our work session for August thirtieth. Again, this was a um extra bonus meeting that um we initially put on the calendar for the budget season. Uh, given the um delayed uh budget ratification, which won't be until voted on until September thirteenth. Uh, this meeting we have a few remaining budget items to discuss. Uh, and then we'll also hear from our Denton County appraisal district. Um, so with that, we'll start with the Denton County appraisal district. Uh, we have um the chairman uh, yeah, Mr. Avlin. Thank you so much for being here. Here's the question. So again, you all you all may have uh received some letters and read some um information um uh in the news about some of the uh issues. Uh you'll recall we had the Denton County appraisal district. Um, and then um uh the uh the president um here earlier this year, February this year, where they spoke about plans coming off of a tough year last year. Um at this stage um we have our budget process. The reason our vote is September thirteenth, which is let us forbidden, is because our certified roles are still not available from Denton County. Um, um as a result, the um the uh their budget has been circulated and has I believe it has not passed. Um, it's been rejected um by the requisite number of districts in uh Denton County. Um, and so we we're wanting to uh kind of get an update from um Mr. Atwood in terms of what's happening with the district where we're at in terms of the um not only the budget in terms of what was presented and rejected, but also what is um the plans for the certified roles. Um we have our concerns, but we'll start with Mr. Atwood and then uh we'll open up to QA. All right. Um I went for several years on the board of um DCAD without very ever being invited to come speak. In fact, I think I contacted Bob Scott one time and said, Hey, would you all like an update on what's going on? And and he said, Yeah, that's a great idea, and invited me to come. But um, yeah, I wasn't surprised to get the mayor's invite to come and speak given that the amount of publicity that the Denton CAD's been doing here lately. Um, and mayor was kind enough to send me a list of uh things he would like me to address, so I'll start with that. The um the board approved a budget of uh almost 18 million dollars. When we first got the budget, it was above 18 million. We had some areas we wanted tweaked, um, sent staff back and came back with a 17.997 million dollar budget for 2023. Um that budget went out for ratification. The way the process works is there's 61 taxing entities in Denton County if uh if a majority, 31 vote against ratification of the budget, then it comes back to the board for reconsideration. Okay, and the deadline to vote on um uh D ratification uh was yesterday. So we did have a majority vote um uh send-in resolutions uh to not adopt the budget. So now we are back. Our next meeting is September 13th, which will be a budget workshop to have changes to the budget, um, if any, presented to us as a board, um then we'll have our our then we have to uh it's a public hearing. We'll have to provide notice once we settle on a budget for uh the board to then again vote on a new budget. That meeting is set for late September. Um the budget that we had originally approved, added 18 full-time uh equivalent staff members as of one twenty-three. One of the questions I've heard asked is, well, why aren't you adding staff members as you go throughout the year? Once we when we approve when when a budget gets approved, there's two elements to that budget. One's a total dollar amount, and one is the number of full-time equivalent staff.

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