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Carrollton City Council Regular Worksession & Meeting - September 15, 2026

City Council — Tuesday, September 15, 2026
BodyCarrollton, Texas
SessionCity Council
DateTuesday, September 15, 2026
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Unassigned speaker

4:23

All

Speaker 1

4:23

right, counselor, I'll come to our um September fifteenth uh work session.

4:32

We will start with our uh just walking through our consent agenda items.

4:37

Starting with our minutes, number eight and nine.

4:39

Any uh questions or edits or concerns on the minutes as posted.

4:47

Uh number ten.

4:48

Uh let me let me also just say that we're gonna pull items number thirteen will be full for separate considerations.

Unassigned speaker

4:54

So it's um uh it'll we'll do the consent agenda item, then we'll turn to item thirteen for for uh even citizen comments.

Speaker 1

5:04

Um is consider authorizing the city managers to enter into a three-year agreement with environmental systems research institute uh throughout the or through the Texas Department of Information Resources contract number DIR CPO 4699 for enterprise GIS software licensing and an amount not to uh an amount of 157,564 dollars in a three-year total amount not to exceed 472.

Unassigned speaker

5:37

Uh

Speaker 1

5:38

I said uh I'm sorry, in an amount of 157,564 dollars and a three-year total not to exceed 472,692 dollars.

5:49

Questions on the item.

5:52

Okay,

Unassigned speaker

5:53

uh

Speaker 1

5:53

number 11 consider authorizing the city manager to execute uh change order number one with ESO solutions for the fire department records management solution and amount not to exceed 61,461 and 55 cents, increasing the total project contract to 307, 307.75.

Speaker 2

6:14

Question

Speaker 1

6:14

Yes.

Speaker 2

6:15

I'm a little fuzzy about how it breaks down into five years.

6:19

245,000 plus plus divided by five is 49,000.

6:24

So the 61,000 is a little confusing for me.

Speaker 1

6:27

Okay, cheap poll

Speaker 3

6:29

clear that right up.

6:30

Yeah, uh chief.

6:32

Uh so this is actually uh due to some unexpected cost with the contract, specifically some unfunded mandates by the state that created a mandatory overdose reporting system.

6:45

So we had to add a module that cost additional funds.

Unassigned speaker

6:48

Uh

Speaker 3

6:49

secondarily, we had to add a new module when we approved the International Fire Code, the 2024 version.

6:55

There's an additional module that they charge us for when we move updated our fire code.

6:59

And the primary difference is when we first got on with the ESO, uh, they told us we'd have full access to our data.

7:07

It's not exactly 100% the way it needed to work for us, the way our data analyst uses that data.

7:13

So we had to book we had basically upgrade to a what's called a snowflake system, which provides a full data suite so that we can do our own data analysis outside of their CAN reports, and that's what the difference in the cost is.

Speaker 2

7:25

It's like a correction of the original calculation.

7:28

Okay, thank

Unassigned speaker

7:28

you.

Speaker 1

7:29

Okay.

Unassigned speaker

7:31

Uh

Speaker 1

7:32

moving on.

7:33

Uh number 12.

7:35

Um consider authorizing the city manager to renew agreements with various furniture vendors through interlocal co-op agreements with call in county government uh purchasers forum and collin county college in an amount not to exceed $880,000 for fiscal year 2027.

Unassigned speaker

7:54

I

Speaker 4

7:55

have a question.

Speaker 1

7:55

Yes, sir.

Speaker 4

7:57

Are we saying that we're gonna spend eight hundred and eighty thousand dollars on furniture in 2027?

8:06

Uh I believe that's what it says.

8:08

I I'm that's why I'm asking

Speaker 5

8:09

most of that is due to the fire stations coming online, so this covers the purchases of all of the furniture coming in with the fire stations.

Speaker 4

8:15

Okay,

Speaker 5

8:16

yeah, we do it as one blanket so that it covers everything.

Speaker 4

8:18

Thank you very

Unassigned speaker

8:19

much.

Speaker 4

8:22

Okay.

Speaker 1

8:22

Any other questions?

8:25

All right, moving on to uh number 13 again.

8:28

We're gonna take this one separately.

8:30

Um so the consent agenda item will be items number eight through twelve and then fourteen and fifteen.

8:37

Um but uh number thirteen will we have a companion item on this, so we'll uh take questions on this as we go through the companion work session item.

8:45

Um but this is the flock, yes.

Unassigned speaker

8:47

Well,

Speaker 6

8:47

Chief Arragondo be available for requirement okay.

8:50

Yeah, thank

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Public Safety█████████████████████████████████████████████50%
Technology and Innovation██████████████████████████████33%
Procedural█████6%
Community Engagement█████6%
Emergency Management██2%
Economic Development█1%
Transportation Safety█1%
Public Engagement█1%
Summary of Proceedings

Carrollton City Council Regular Worksession & Meeting - September 15, 2026

The Carrollton City Council held a combined Worksession and Regular Meeting on Tuesday, September 15, 2026. The worksession convened at 5:45 PM in the Council Briefing Room, where the council received a briefing on police technology and crime reduction strategies. The regular meeting began at 7:00 PM in the Council Chambers, featuring a proclamation for Emergency Preparedness Month, approval of consent agenda items, a separate public comment period and vote on a consolidated Flock Safety contract, and council reports.

Consent Calendar

The following items were approved unanimously via consent, exclusive of Items 9 and 13, which were considered separately:

  • Item 8: Approval of the August 18, 2026 regular council meeting minutes.
  • Item 10: Authorization to enter into a three-year agreement with Esri for enterprise GIS software licensing at an annual cost of $157,564 (total not to exceed $472,692).
  • Item 11: Authorization for Change Order No. 1 with ESO Solutions for the Fire Department records management solution, increasing the total contract to $307,307.75.
  • Item 12: Authorization to renew agreements with various furniture vendors through Collin County cooperative agreements, not to exceed $880,000 for Fiscal Year 2027.
  • Item 14: Resolution authorizing an agreement with Metrocrest Services, Inc. for $629,092 in services plus $113,000 in CDBG funds for homelessness efforts.
  • Item 15: Resolution authorizing an agreement with Children’s Advocacy Center for North Texas for $104,637 for Fiscal Year 2027.

Item 9 (approval of September 1, 2026 minutes) was pulled for individual consideration and passed unanimously.

Proclamation

Mayor Steve Babick read a proclamation declaring September as Emergency Preparedness Month, recognizing the city’s emergency management staff and encouraging residents to prepare emergency kits and plans. Emergency Management Coordinator Jay Johnson accepted the proclamation and thanked the council for their support.

Worksession Briefing: Police Use of Technology and Crime Reduction Strategies

Police Chief Robert Arredondo, Assistant Chief Caleb West, and Commander Zach White presented the department’s crime reduction strategy, which has reduced overall crime by nearly 50% over four years. Key points:

  • The 2025 crime rate was 65% lower than 20 years ago, making Carrollton the fourth safest big city in the metroplex.
  • The strategy is intelligence-led and data-driven, focusing on people, places, behavior, and partnerships.
  • Technology tools include Flock Safety ALPRs (67 license plate readers and 15 PTZ cameras), a Real-Time Crime Center, drones (including Drone as First Responder), and Live 911.
  • The proposed Item 13 consolidates four existing Flock contracts into one three-year agreement with no new cameras or additional funding required. Annual cost is $398,258.34 (total $1,194,775.02), already budgeted.
  • Data retention is 30 days, with role-based access controls, permanent audit logs, and proactive misuse detection. No data is sold or shared with federal agencies or non-law enforcement entities.
  • The department has had zero substantiated cases of misuse of the Flock system, and the Chief committed to swift discipline for any future abuse.

Public Comments & Testimony on Item 13 (Flock Safety Contract)

A large number of residents and stakeholders spoke during the public comment period, with about 20 speakers presenting both opposition and support.

Opposition arguments (from Jeffrey Faust, Brian Chandler, Hannah Fausto, Claire Neago, Kim Crossley, Kurt Booth, Arya Dean, Jonathan Bowen, Mark Baim, Nicholas Brown, Amara, Micah Dumont, John Etzel, Kenneth Vagans, Laurie Foster, Christian Hernandez, Amna Malik, James McAllister, Ketzia Mendez, Nicholas Solis, Joseph Sutton, Michelle Wiggington, and others) included:

  • Concerns about civil liberties, mass surveillance, and the "mosaic theory" that aggregated data can reveal intimate details of life.
  • The lack of a public hearing before deployment and the need for voter input.
  • Data stored in the cloud with a private company (Flock) raises cybersecurity risks; documented cases of officer misuse in other jurisdictions (stalking, false stops) were cited.
  • Opportunity costs: $1.2 million could be spent on traffic safety, officers, or infrastructure.
  • The Texas state government recently paused additional Flock purchases; Carrollton should follow suit.
  • Technical vulnerabilities in Flock devices, including open vulnerabilities in the NIST database, were noted by an IT professional.
  • A petition for certiorari is pending before the Supreme Court on whether ALPR database searches constitute a Fourth Amendment search.

Support arguments (from Rusty Pendleton, Harold Vinson, Alexander Fincher, and others) included:

  • The technology is a critical force multiplier that has led to recovery of stolen vehicles, arrest of wanted persons, and solving of violent crimes.
  • Data retention is limited to 30 days, and strong internal controls and audits are in place.
  • License plates are publicly visible; no facial recognition or individual tracking occurs.
  • Carrollton’s police department has earned trust through transparency and results, and the chief has committed to accountability.
  • Without Flock, Carrollton would become a "hole in the donut" for criminals in the metro area.

Discussion Items

Councilmembers debated Item 13 at length before the vote:

  • Councilmember Fleming opposed, arguing that the interior camera network goes beyond perimeter security and that the public deserves a direct vote on such a surveillance program.
  • Councilmember Sutter supported, noting that similar data is already collected by private tech companies and that the cameras solve real crimes and protect the vulnerable.
  • Councilmember Axberg supported, expressing trust in the police department’s accountability and the council’s oversight role.
  • Councilmember Cline supported, emphasizing crime deterrence and not hamstringing the police.
  • Councilmember Watters supported, calling for continued community engagement and trust.
  • Deputy Mayor Pro Tem Carpenter supported, stating that the tools are legal and necessary, and that courts will ultimately decide constitutional questions.
  • Mayor Pro Tem Palomo supported, highlighting life-saving applications (Amber Alerts, missing persons) and the objective nature of plate-reading technology.
  • Mayor Babick noted that the city has reviewed case law and believes the contract is constitutional, and that if the law changes, the city will comply.

Key Outcomes

  • Approval of consolidated Flock Safety contract (Item 13): The motion passed 7-1, with Councilmember Fleming dissenting. The three-year agreement for 82 cameras and software, valued at $1,194,775.02 (annual $398,258.34), was authorized. The city manager may execute the cooperative agreement.
  • Consent agenda items (8, 10-12, 14-15) were approved unanimously.
  • Minutes of September 1, 2026 (Item 9) were approved unanimously.
  • Emergency Preparedness Month was formally proclaimed.
  • Council members shared individual activity reports and recognized Hispanic Heritage Month, Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, National Suicide Prevention Month, and various community events. An upcoming joint worksession with Carrollton-Farmers Branch Independent School District was announced for October 27.

Meeting Transcript

All right, counselor, I'll come to our um September fifteenth uh work session. We will start with our uh just walking through our consent agenda items. Starting with our minutes, number eight and nine. Any uh questions or edits or concerns on the minutes as posted. Uh number ten. Uh let me let me also just say that we're gonna pull items number thirteen will be full for separate considerations. So it's um uh it'll we'll do the consent agenda item, then we'll turn to item thirteen for for uh even citizen comments. Um is consider authorizing the city managers to enter into a three-year agreement with environmental systems research institute uh throughout the or through the Texas Department of Information Resources contract number DIR CPO 4699 for enterprise GIS software licensing and an amount not to uh an amount of 157,564 dollars in a three-year total amount not to exceed 472. Uh I said uh I'm sorry, in an amount of 157,564 dollars and a three-year total not to exceed 472,692 dollars. Questions on the item. Okay, uh number 11 consider authorizing the city manager to execute uh change order number one with ESO solutions for the fire department records management solution and amount not to exceed 61,461 and 55 cents, increasing the total project contract to 307, 307.75. Question Yes. I'm a little fuzzy about how it breaks down into five years. 245,000 plus plus divided by five is 49,000. So the 61,000 is a little confusing for me. Okay, cheap poll clear that right up. Yeah, uh chief. Uh so this is actually uh due to some unexpected cost with the contract, specifically some unfunded mandates by the state that created a mandatory overdose reporting system. So we had to add a module that cost additional funds. Uh secondarily, we had to add a new module when we approved the International Fire Code, the 2024 version. There's an additional module that they charge us for when we move updated our fire code. And the primary difference is when we first got on with the ESO, uh, they told us we'd have full access to our data. It's not exactly 100% the way it needed to work for us, the way our data analyst uses that data. So we had to book we had basically upgrade to a what's called a snowflake system, which provides a full data suite so that we can do our own data analysis outside of their CAN reports, and that's what the difference in the cost is. It's like a correction of the original calculation. Okay, thank you. Okay. Uh moving on. Uh number 12. Um consider authorizing the city manager to renew agreements with various furniture vendors through interlocal co-op agreements with call in county government uh purchasers forum and collin county college in an amount not to exceed $880,000 for fiscal year 2027. I have a question. Yes, sir. Are we saying that we're gonna spend eight hundred and eighty thousand dollars on furniture in 2027? Uh I believe that's what it says. I I'm that's why I'm asking most of that is due to the fire stations coming online, so this covers the purchases of all of the furniture coming in with the fire stations. Okay, yeah, we do it as one blanket so that it covers everything. Thank you very much.

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