0:01This is for possible um action to certify the Nevada Department of Transportation's total mileage of Carson Cities.
0:11And this course is on the next page.
0:15Kelly, are you gonna give us a highlight on this, please?
0:18Thank you, Madam Chair.
0:19Kelly Norman, Senior Transportation Planner.
0:22State law requires a public hearing in which the roads maintained are identified and presented.
0:28This item serves as that hearing.
0:30The Carson City Road mileage has been updated for 2025 to reflect an updated total of 304.59 public center line miles and 300.17 center line miles of roads eligible for a motor fuel tax.
0:47The public road mileage is shown in exhibit two, and the motor fuel tax mileage is shown in exhibit three.
0:55If approved by the RTC, staff will submit these totals and the accompanying GIS feature layers reflecting the new totals to the state of Nevada for approval.
1:06That concludes my comments.
1:08Does any member have a question?
1:10Yes, yeah, just to comment.
1:12It looks like NDOT audited in the last year and found a couple little errors here and there and those got corrected good.
1:18I'm glad we're doing that.
1:20And then just to uh make it clear that every time Carson City accepts new roads from new subdivisions or whatever, those are reflected in this as well.
1:29So that reflects the changes in the past year.
1:34Any other questions, comments?
1:38Um just had a quick question.
1:40Could you explain or highlight why there was a difference between the road mileage?
1:48Between last year and this year?
1:51Or you mean between motor fuel eligible in the total motor fuel and in total.
1:57What makes it eligible for motor fuel?
2:00Um there are different definitions according to NRS on what is um public center line mile eligible versus what is motor fuel tax eligible.
2:15Motor fuel tax has to be accessible to the public and be a condition of C or better.
2:24There's uh a picture in exhibit one that demonstrates a difference between B and C.
2:30And so it includes dirt roads too.
2:33And so this would be uh characterizing a dirt road.
2:37That it has to be in a good condition so that a normal uh you know, four forter car can passenger car can get down the road.
2:48Um, and so that's a a level condition C.
2:52And so if it's not in that condition, or if it has a gate across it, or there's signs limiting um people, then um it's no longer considered motor fuel tax eligible.
3:08Okay, is there any public comment on this item?
3:12Okay, with that, I'll accept a motion to get this year's certification done.
3:19I move to certify the total mileage of Carson City public roads and the identity and mileage of roads maintained by the city as presented.
3:29I have a motion and a second for approval.
3:31All those in favor, please say aye.
3:35Let the record reflect it was four yeses and one absent.
3:39Okay, we are now on to agenda item five B.
3:44This is our determination that Spanish Springs construction is the lowest responsive and responsible bidder uh for the West Carson Vulnerable Pedestrian Safety Improvement Project for a total of 1,629,213, and then authorization for the public works director to approve an 8% contingency amount of 130,337, not exceeding 1,759,550.
4:17Casey, is there anything to point out for this project?
4:22Yes, Casey Sylvester Transportation and Traffic Engineer.
4:25Um this project was a safe rouse to school master plan identified project.
4:29We're adding sidewalk where there was not previously sidewalk four along corridors identified in the safe rouse to school action plan.
4:37These are adjacent to Carson Middle School and Borderwick Bray Elementary School, and the work is being completed on Fifth Street, Musser Street, and Telegraph Street.
4:47Anybody have any questions on this project?
4:50Yes, it's you know, it's common sense to go ahead and consider this, you know, with putting in sidewalks where none existed near schools.
5:00I was just wondering if you had like a head count of the number of people that travel there or walk there during that day or ride a bicycle.
5:10The SafeRouse to School Master Plan does identify the percentage of users, and I'm not positive if Chris could jump in on if it gives a specific number of users, but it does give percentage of users that come from different routes.
5:23And so I don't have that number in front of me, but it is available in the SafeRoss School Master Plan.
5:29Um this percentage is based on the total number of people in C force school or total number of people walking.
5:41Costa, yes, if I may, Casey.
5:44Chris Marzinovich, transportation manager.
5:46When we originally did the Safe Rouse School Master Plan, now it's called our Safe Rosal School Action Plan as approved by this board in December December.
5:54Uh the consultant that assisted us with that original plan flew a drone over all of the schools and took actual counts and verified where where vehicles going, where pedestrians going, how are people getting to and from school?
6:07And that's where this project was identified.
6:09So I don't, I don't to Casey's point, I don't know the exact number of people, and that probably changes year to year, but we did do actual surveys of the school to kind of understand where are where are people going and what rows are they using.
6:25But it has some motions.
6:26Okay, is there any public comment on this item?
6:31Okay, I'll bring it back up here.
6:33Um someone would like to make a motion.
6:36I'll make the motion.
6:37This one's been around a while.
6:40Get me one another one off the list.
6:45So I move to award the contract as presented and to authorize the public works director to approve expenditure of the contingency if needed.
7:00I have a motion and a uh second for approval.
7:03All those in favor, please say aye.
7:07Let the record reflect it was four yeses and one absent.
7:14Um, I don't know, something I take great pride in is how well we plan, right?
7:20And then that really gives staff their direction or their missions on what to go and accomplish.
7:28And so when we can take one off the list and say, ooh, I know it was a few years and a little bit of work, but we actually have accomplished it, so great job.
7:39Okay, well, move on now to agenda item five C.
7:43This is another uh contract for FW Carson Company.
7:48I like that it's Carson Company at Areno, but that's beside the point.
7:51Is I'm like, hey, change your name.
7:53Is the lowest responsive and responsible bidder uh for the contract for the root street reconstruction project for 1 million 764,744, which includes the base bid of a million seven twenty-eight twenty-four dollars and bid alternate two for 36,720, and authorizes the public works director to approve a 10% contingency of 176,474 for a grand total not to exceed a million 941218.
8:30Casey, what's uh what do we got special going on here?
8:34All right, so this project um is on roof street, and it the extents are between fifth and musser, and so that section will include pavement rehabilitation, sewer line replacement, and water line work.
8:47There's an bid alternative two is also included in this contract, but alternative two is to upgrade pedestrian push buttons in the project area.
8:54Bid alternative one was to include extents from Musser to Caroline.
8:59However, based upon costs and available budgets, that was not included in this contract.
9:04And so this contract is only for the base of fifth to muster and the pedestrian push buttons for as you mentioned, the total not to exceed amount of 1,941,218.
9:16That was all I wanted to add.
9:18Are there any questions?
9:19Does any member have a question?
9:22Another one we've we finally see them or something.
9:28This one's been around a while.
9:30Yeah, this one is needed, and I wish we could have gone further north, but ran out of money, right?
9:35So and I'm hoping that any of the underground stuff you do, it's state land to the west, and they're gonna be doing their future project.
9:43So hopefully we do it once.
9:49But for now, I think we're taking the appropriate action.
9:55Okay, is there any public comment on this item?
10:00Okay, then I'll bring it back up here for a motion, please.
10:05I move to abort the contract as presented and to authorize the public works director to approve expenditure of the contingency if needed.
10:17And a second for approval.
10:19All those in favor, please say aye.
10:22Any opposed, say no.
10:24Let the record reflect it was unanimous with one absent.
10:29Okay, we're now on to agenda item 5D.
10:33This one's a highway agreement with uh Nevada Department of Transportation to partially fund the construction of the Solomon uh school zone safety project through $689,034 and highway safety improvement funds plus a 5% local match of $36,265 and $47,001.
11:00And additional funding outside of the agreement for a total of 7 772,300, and authorizing the transportation manager to execute the agreement, as well as any future amendments regarding extensions of times or changes funding that do not increase the total amount by more than 10%.
11:22Casey, talk to us a little bit about the what we're doing here.
11:27Yeah, so this LPA agreement is for construction costs only associated with this project.
11:31Highway safety improvement program funds are for construction only.
11:35The project is currently in design using local funds.
11:38We're expecting to advertise late this summer.
11:44Are there any questions?
11:46So what what just for the public?
11:48What schools are we gonna be uh helping make safer on this?
11:53Each of the schools that are long Solomon, so Sealager, Fremont, and Carson High School each see improvements as part of this project.
12:00We get three on this one.
12:03I know it's almost school road, right?
12:06Costa, do you have a question?
12:07Um yes, I just had a quick question on page 242 of the packet.
12:13They have attachment A scope of the work, and they have it outlined, the length of this project.
12:21So my understanding is that this contract will go ahead and cover making improvements that we talked about all along this yellow mark here, all along this yellow road.
12:34Now the the exact extents of the improvements will be settled as design is finished.
12:41However, we are expecting it to be not the entire length of the yellow, it will be localized at each of those elementary schools.
12:48Um elementary schools and the high school, yeah.
12:52Um however, the exact extents of those isn't exactly nailed down at the moment.
12:59Okay, just so I understand that we'll make sure that the three schools are covered, and then other improvements will be as funding allows.
13:15Is there any public comment on this item?
13:19Okay, I'll bring it back up here.
13:21We're getting projects done.
13:23This is a good meeting.
13:25We've been doing a lot of planning, and eventually it comes something comes out the other end.
13:30So who would like to make this motion?
13:46Who would like to make the motion for that, Greg?
13:49You have to open your mouth.
13:52I move to approve the agreement as presented and to authorize the transportation manager to execute the agreement, as well as any future amendments to the agreement regarding extensions of time or changes in funding that do not increase the total amount by more than 10%.
14:09I have a motion and a second for approval.
14:11All those in favor, please say aye.
14:16Let the record reflect that was four yeses and one absent.
14:20Okay, we're now on to agenda item five e, discussion of possible action on the submission of a better utilizing investments to leverage development, the new build grant applications.
14:34I know all these little neat names they do for things.
14:38But anyway, the build to the United States Department of Transportation for five million nine hundred thousand for the Fifth Street Roundabout Improvement Project and a possible local match of 310,500, and to authorize the transportation manager to complete the required application forms.
14:57Ums Shuty, your disclosure, please.
15:01NRS 281A.420 requires me to disclose conflicts of interest and abstain from voting when I have a disqualifying conflict.
15:10My nephew is Chris Martinovich, who is employed by Carson City and will be presenting this item.
15:15Chris and I are not receiving compensation of any kind directly related to this item.
15:20It will not foreseeably impair or enhance the terms of his service with the city, and we are not affected by the outcome of this item to a greater degree than any other resident of Carson City.420 only requires abstention in clear cases.
15:38And the independent judgment of a reasonable person in my position would not be impacted by my familial relationship.
15:45Therefore, I do not have a disqualifying conflict, and I will be voting on this matter.
15:58Yes, thank you, Madam Chair.
16:00Chris Martinovich transportation manager has mentioned we're requesting an application for a build grant, the US DOT for our East Fifth Street Roundabout Improvement Project.
16:10This is a project that we've talked about as an RTC a number of times over the years as outlined in the staff report and previous action.
16:17It's been on pause essentially until we could find potential funding sources to deliver this project.
16:22And a build grant is a very good potential funding source for that project, for this project.
16:28I do want to note that recently, and it's noted in the staff report, this was a project that we requested congressionally designated spending or essentially federal earmark money from Congress back in federal fiscal year 25.
16:40We recently received that $3 million or notice that we were going to receive that $3 million as part of the Federal Fifth Fiscal Year 2026 Transportation Housing and Urban Development Appropriations Bill.
16:52So as such, I would recommend that the RTC amend our request for this grant application to reduce our request for a build grant.
17:20That will reflect that and acknowledge that we have received the $3 million in congressionally designated spending, so we don't need as much of the build grant funding to deliver this project.
17:30So those are my recommendations.
17:43As we ramp up that design, bring back to the RTC for an updated presentation as to kind of a refresher.
17:50What is the project entail?
17:52So we we we do plan to bring that back prior to completion of the design for any input.
17:58Other than that, uh that concludes my comments.
18:00Thank you, Madam Chair.
18:03So when we were doing the bids are looking at the dollars on the roundabout project.
18:16So that was over a year ago, right?
18:23Maybe even longer, right?
18:25So I I guess what I want to do is do I do we really want to limit this low of a grant request because you don't anticipate or or where do you think it's actually going to come at?
18:41I guess I'm I'm thinking, do we make it a little bit bigger ask?
18:48We're always happy to request more money and take more money.
18:57There are there are a number of things we looked at in real in regards to this roundabout.
19:01We did look at different phasing.
19:02We looked at reducing it for temporary and then expansion.
19:05We we decided as a as a commission, you all decided not to look at any of those and to just go with the ultimate design.
19:11So we we've maintained, and this cost estimate is based on the ultimate design without phases or portions cut out.
19:19It's it's the full thing with multiple lanes added.
19:23We did update the cost estimate.
19:25I did that a few weeks ago to account for our current bid environment.
19:29Um it also includes a 15% contingency on top of on top of the the base estimate, and it also includes escalation of 3% for the next two years, uh, 27 and 28.
19:42Anticipating construction in the 28th time frame.
19:45So there are some contingencies and escalations built into this cost estimate.
19:49One of the big variables with this project is going to be traffic control.
19:53How is how is traffic going to be maintained to the to the community over on that side of Fifth Street Eagle Valley Middle School and what are the options with that?
20:00That that's a variable that is difficult for staff to kind of estimate and project out.
20:06But you know, if if this board were inclined to uh potentially increase this request slightly, that does potentially give us some uh wiggle room should costs increase more than we expect them to.
20:18Yeah, I hate to find out that we actually get the grant, and then between both the congressionally designated in this, we're still a little short.
20:28So I I just obviously also need uh a basis for the request.
20:37I mean, you can't just say I want 10 million, you gotta have a a rationale for it.
20:43So do you think adding a little cushion in for traffic control?
20:47We can definitely add some more contingency and and make sure our estimate reflects a reasonable amount for traffic control.
20:54What do you guys think?
20:57You know, it it's hard to predict, but as long as let's give it our best estimate at this point for I don't know if it's the worst case, but you know, see how it turns out.
21:06I mean, I I've got some history with this one.
21:08This was four-way stop long ago.
21:11And rather than put in a traffic signal, I talked to Anda, I said, let's try a roundabout.
21:15And this was the first one.
21:17And it's worked reasonably well.
21:19Yeah, so just a little small.
21:21One of the things I'd mentioned to Chris when we were looking at alternatives, one was if we move the roundabout a little bit getting state land, it would save a whole bunch of money.
21:31So I want to go ahead with this grant, but I still said it doesn't hurt to ask the state lands if we could actually do that, because that saves everybody money if that's possible.
21:40But for now, I'm you know enthusiastically in favor of this and we'll get going.
21:44And I also checked that as these roads are widened in the future, and it's in the RTP to four-lane fair view, if I remember right, that this roundabout design will still work.
21:55So again, I think we've done our homework, we've done our planning, and now we're moving on to final design and hopefully implementation.
22:03If we don't get any state land, is there any right of way still that we would need on this?
22:09That was my other question.
22:11And then if we want to save money on traffic control, maybe we advertise it as you don't do any work when school's in session.
22:19You know, some ways around that.
22:20There's you know, that's if we're the if the problem is level of service, a m p.m.
22:26when folks are going to the school, we don't work then, you know, or during the summer.
22:30I mean, there's there's ways to fine-tune it, but at this point in time, yeah, let's go ahead with the uh with the with the application.
22:37Anybody else in comments?
22:38So, what would be the new amount taking into account the three million dollar grant from Congress and our desire to go ahead and budget some additional to cover the traffic control?
22:51393, what are you thinking?
22:54Well, I I offered uh 3,106,000 if we just uh do we we could do you know with uh we could go to 3.3 million that gives us about 200,000 additional.
23:07Um that's that's a pretty hefty traffic control dollar amount.
23:10Uh so I I think I think that that would make sense.
23:15And then we can just say in corresponding match.
23:18We don't have to calculate it right now.
23:20We could just say three point three million dollar application with the corresponding match.
23:25I will clarify there is no required match for this.
23:27So we're we're we're offering it to be more competitive.
23:30So I've targeted a five percent match because that's our typical match requirement, but we don't have to increase the match should this board choose not to do that.
23:39We could leave it at the 163,500.
23:42How much did we have in the project originally?
23:47The project originally included multiple components, including the the rest of Fifth Street down to Marsh Road.
23:53So we we we originally had a four million dollar project for all of that, and so once this became much larger roundabout, that's that's why it was pulled out.
24:02I I don't know that we have a set dollar originally for this roundabout.
24:15Then for match, or do we want to put this at 5% match to try and help the application over the finish line?
24:24We found that's helped us in the past when we're okay, five percent.
24:31And if I I think it's a slight, it's just gonna just be a couple of thousand dollar increase, so it's not a huge hit to us, right?
24:38Okay, let me see if there's any public comment on this item.
24:45So I'll bring it back up here then to look for uh allowing a grant application for 3.3 million with a five percent corresponding match.
24:57Um, I had a question.
25:00Just to make sure I understand is that we would go ahead and later on, assuming we get the grant or see how much money we have, we would have a the actual design will be brought back to the RTC.
25:15Yeah, hopefully they just see our wisdom and give us the grant.
25:19Uh Supervisor Shuddy.
25:21Well, I think you made the motion.
25:23Okay, there's a motion in a second.
25:26Um, all those in favor, please say aye.
25:31Let the record reflect it was uh four yeses and one absent.
25:36Okay, now just let's go get it.
25:39Um agenda item six A.
25:42Martinovich, a report, please.
25:44Do you have anything to enlighten us?
25:46Yes, thank you, Madam Chair.
25:47We are working on our fiscal 27 budgets.
25:50Uh so look for those in April as usual at the RTC.
25:54We'll we'll talk about the RTC 250 fund as well as the 225 transit fund and the 256 street operations fund as usual.
26:02Those are being worked and we're coordinating with the city's finance department on those activities.
26:07We also are plugging away on our district four roadway prioritization, both for local roads, which is our focus right now, and soon to be uh regional roads.
26:15So look for those local roads next month to the RTC uh for which roads we we are prioritized and our funding and recommendations on which ones we should move forward with, and we can have a discussion about all of that uh coming up.
26:30We're also preparing for next month a submission to the Office of Traffic Safety for a grant for uh some some safety outreach campaign activities related to the Safe Routes of School program and in partnership with jump around Carson.
26:42So more items to come with that in the in the future in the coming months for the Office of Traffic Safety, you know, the grant request gets more money here at Carson City.
26:50And lastly, I know that there's some discussion uh pending possibly on on uh at the Board of Supervisors or potentially just the Board of Supervisors Retreat.
26:59Um, Madam Chair, you may more know more about this about roads and things related to roads.
27:04So uh we'll have a report as to that to this art to the RTC in the future.
27:08So that concludes my report, and all if there's any questions, happy to answer them.
27:14Yeah, I can say at the retreat, the discussion for the Board of Supervisors will deal with um what makes a road, I guess maybe kind of eligible, you know.
27:29When is it private and we're not or and when do we accept the road?
27:34Kind of in our discussion earlier on, you know.
27:38Do we want to put criteria?
27:40I guess that's the and formalize it.
27:43We've generally already done it.
27:46If it has a gate where it closes, we leave that as a private road.
27:51Um if people can drive through it, we make it a public road, but we haven't had any formal actual policies concerning that.
28:00So we'll have that discussion at the retreat.
28:04And so if you have thoughts about that or anything and have public comment, we would love for you to share it.
28:10So that's what we'll be doing at the retreat.
28:14Anybody else has any other questions, Chris?
28:17Okay, then we will move to agenda item 6B, which is the street operations report.
28:24Martinovich, look at all this good work everyone's doing.
28:28As usual, this was December 2025, and our our street operations crews are as usual very busy and doing a great job out there.
28:36December did see some weather, but we were still able to do, of course, a number of potholes, a lot of sidewalk and and um other curb ramp type elements.
28:44Um in the cross in and across the city.
28:47We were able to do a lot of shouldering, I'll note.
28:49This was a big activity in this month, um, getting the shoulder work, which helps with drainage and getting water off the roads uh for safety and for preservation of the pavement.
28:58So that's why an emphasis on those items.
29:01Um otherwise, you know, we we had our regular updates.
29:05Um Christmas decorations were a number of items here noted on the report.
29:10Uh, installation and removal of those for the holiday festivities in downtown.
29:13Our street operations crews do do those, and so we report that as part of the.
29:17We do such a good job.
29:19Yeah, Chris, yeah, I like these reports.
29:22It shows that work gets done year-round and usually for a very, very fair price.
29:27I don't think you can get it any cheaper.
29:29And for whatever reason the cycle for uh Campo and RTC meetings is the same for the street sweeper in my neighborhood.
29:38They came by this morning and I wasn't out there early enough, and they drove around the Nevada appeal.
29:43There was sitting, I didn't pick it up yet.
29:47Otherwise, I would have lost it.
29:50Can't make it up, right?
29:52So thank you very much.
29:55I just have one funny.
30:00I and it could just be timing, is what I'm gonna guess because I thought we installed 381 Christmas decorations, and we only took 227 down.
30:07Is that because we left rights?
30:11This is cut off the end of the month, and it takes it takes several days to get these items out there.
30:15I just thought they did it right at the end of the month, right?
30:18So next month they'll say I did 140 for some 60 removals.
30:23You just want the spirit.
30:26I actually have to tell you how many positive compliments that the night is so beautiful with those uh lights, and yeah, it's really beautiful.
30:37So, and great great job on that.
30:40And I really also like the report that talks about work orders, because I think that again drives home a different point, right?
30:52How do we do all this work?
30:54It comes through a work order that someone has, and then all of those get prioritized.
31:00And when you look at what was created, what are we completing, and then what's still open?
31:08So I just I think it's a great report.
31:10And again, thank your staff for that um effort for us.
31:14Okay, nobody else has any.
31:16Um, then we'll move on to agenda item six C.
31:20Um, is there anything else uh coming up?
31:24I have nothing else.
31:25Um we have their project status report.
31:27Casey's available if there are any questions, otherwise I will um wasn't planning to go through that unless anyone has any specific questions on projects or the revenues.
31:37Revenues are pretty consistent, huh?
31:41I I think that's a big thing for people revenues are consistent, costs are not.
31:47And I and I think this report again is one that provides the information so people realize how flat the fuel taxes are.
31:59They're just not they're not able to keep pace because they're barely growing, right?
32:04You know, they're just not doing it, and so I think this is uh another great document that's out there for the public to be able to see and to recognize it's a stable revenue source.
32:20I I like that part, you know, that we're not seeing it go the other way, but but it really is not keeping even pace with what it used to be able to do because the cost is so high.
32:31So the one I'm sure you're well aware of is the sales tax, seems volatile, variable, whatever.
32:39I don't know if it's the reporting or that really indicates the way the economy's going, but the numbers show it's all over the place.
32:46But the the state implemented a new system, and I think they're I hope that they're really almost through the what would you call kinks in a system, right?
32:58When you implement a new computer system, it's like, hmm, something's not right here.
33:04Where is this taxpayer?
33:05And and I think they're getting close to having that worked out, but it really makes comparison data not real comparable.
33:16Like you said, what's going on?
33:18Are none of our gas stations paying the tax?
33:20Or you know, you looked back at last year and go, what do you mean 152 November?
33:27Yeah, I'm still shopping.
33:30I think November, December are generally a little higher than that.
33:33But anyway, um, and then I just want to compliment you that, and just for the public, because I'm I'm constantly asked, you know, that we're not fixing roads or we're not doing this.
33:47And I'm like, do you guys actually look at the report that staff spends a lot of work and really see what we're doing?
33:56So this is always public, and every other month, it's in the report that tells you the status of every project that we're working on.
34:06So I just want to reiterate that.
34:10When you look at the project costs to date, even on this and come down to the bottom line and see it's 15 million.
34:16We are doing work and trying to get every grant we can, every federal dollar available, anybody that'll participate in a project with us, we like them.
34:27Um, you know, come to Carson City, but I just want to again commend staff for the transparency of this.
34:36I think it gets lost that sometimes, and I don't blame anyone, right?
34:43We all focus on the road in front of our house.
34:46But if you really look at everything we're doing, there's a lot of work here, and I know it's a lot of work for staff to coordinate it all and keep everything going and on budget and on target.
35:00I thought I'd just add that.
35:01Little pressure, but just keep doing it, right?
35:04But does anyone have a particular question on a project?
35:08Yeah, I'll start and I mentioned this to Chris earlier.
35:11There's quite a few projects around the general area, that capital complex.
35:16And I just wanted to make sure that we're coordinating our construction with their construction.
35:22It sounds like Stewart Street is on surrounded by them.
35:26And then you got Fifth Street and Roop and Little Lane.
35:29So Chris, anything you want to say at this point?
35:31Or so Stewart Street, uh, we we have delayed the the start of construction for the Surrey Street preservation, the district two Surrey 3 preservation to allow the legislative council bureau who's building a parking garage and building there at the corner of Fifth and Stewart to finish their utilities.
35:49I believe they have finished their utilities in Stewart Street.
35:52They're putting their final touches on the patches in those streets.
35:55And so that will allow us to do the preservation of Stewart Street, including that newly patched area.
36:00So they're not cutting up a patched surface, new surface street.
36:04We have delayed our District 2 Fifth Street project, which runs from Carson Street to uh Roop Street again for the same reason we wanted the state to get in there and do all their utilities.
36:15I don't know off the top of my head what the state has planned for the parcel or the behind the fire station and where the with a Razio or Brian building is there, uh Fifth and Roop and Stewart.
36:28I don't know what their utility connections, I don't know what they look like.
36:30I believe most of them are planned off of Fifth Street.
36:33Um if those do change, we'll we'll we'll continue to coordinate.
36:38Fifth Street's already delayed, so we can continue to delay that one if if needed.
36:42Roop Street doesn't have anything, and again, Stewart Street, I think we're we're good for that one.
36:47Um you mentioned the other Roop Street during the Roof Street item.
36:50I think we have been trying to coordinate with the state regarding where the utility connections are actually going to tie in on Roof Street.
36:57We know that there are some.
36:58We're hopeful they can get in and do those if if needed, if and and maybe those change.
37:03Um otherwise, we do have a lot of utility infrastructure in that area that that um is is adjacent and not in the pavement.
37:11It's running alongside storm drain system is running alongside the pavement, for instance.
37:15And so tying into those wouldn't affect the the pavement itself.
37:18So, yes, we're coordinating.
37:20Do we know all the activities?
37:21Do they know the activity, all activities they're planning?
37:23I don't I'm not sure yet.
37:24Those projects are still in development and still in planning stages, just like some of our projects are.
37:29So we'll we'll keep that door open, keep communicating and do the best we can.
37:33But I still think we have failing pavement, and if we continue to wait to deliver some of these, our pavement's gonna get worse and worse, and then it's more and more cost to us.
37:44I think they're ready to go in uh March.
37:50And I understood from uh Mr.
37:52Schultz that they're already coordinating the utility work, just for the valid reason, all the reasons you're talking about.
38:00So it's my understanding that's already um in progress and even dealing with um storm water and it there's lots of the utility hookup information, but I think that uh I think there's a team that's on that part uh coordinating because they're getting ready to go, so they got all that.
38:23Okay, and the last one I wanted to ask about we're closing out the Carson City multi-use path improvement and rehabilitation project.
38:31Uh that's the one we were supposed to have some flashing pedestrian beacons on Roop Street, so I guess those are not going in.
38:39But the other one we cut out that little portion behind the DMV, because we were told the state had a plan for that land, or they wouldn't let us put the shared use path in.
38:50So at this point, I'd said, do you have a plan or don't you?
38:54And if you don't, can we move ahead and put that shared use path in?
38:59Oh, by the way, maybe you should pay for it since we had the money before.
39:02Thank you very much.
39:04So that's you know, that's my little soapbox here.
39:06But you know, the the governor says he wants to get things done.
39:10We had stuff that was ready, right?
39:12So it doesn't hurt to ask, right?
39:20Uh so this isn't a question on the status report, but it is a request for a brief report, if possible.
39:28Um today I uh a person reached out and they were several people actually, and um asking if there was a way or a report that could be given.
39:41Um talking about the worst roads in Carson, how many miles are they?
39:47So I guess those that are in greatest need of repair.
40:00Where are they, and what could we get for a year's worth of funding that is earmarked for local roads?
40:06I think that would be great to for the public to hear really the cost of rehabilitation versus reconstruction, and I know you've spoken to that before.
40:20You've spoken to it many times, but I think it's important that we bring it up from time to time so that the public can really understand why we are focusing on uh preservation and that there's more bang for the buck.
40:38We get more done and preserving roads um help us to not have the costly repair later.
40:47But if we could speak to that, what would it cost to rebuild a road in horrible condition?
40:55So if that's something that's possible in the next couple months, um that would be really great.
41:00And I think about it.
41:02And how we'll think about it, because I think we when we bring Transportation District 4, because that one will be the local roads.
41:14We'll all we'll have utilized our methodology of selecting roads, and how some of those got to.
41:21I mean, so a partial just for transportation district four would be hitting those potentials, and maybe we could expand it to I don't know if we'd have the ability if to think about it to look at all at least Transportation District 4.
41:40Because we'd have that data and that would be just a snapshot.
41:45So in one particular district, uh the the 20 miles that are in the worst shape, this is what it this is how much we could do with the money we have allotted.
42:00This is what we we could accomplish with that, or we can you mean reconstruction versus preservation.
42:10Yeah, so we could show what could we do with reconstruction dollars and what roads versus potentially where the answer's gonna come is here's the preservation road.
42:23And I think it helps explain the why.
42:26And then you know, uh one of the the comments today was um, you know, well, could we split it?
42:34I mean, how about X amount go to preservation and X amount go to reconstruction?
42:41And there are reasons why it's not done that way, but I think it's important that that be understood.
42:50Um what could we get if we did that?
42:54What would the final product be?
42:56And is that something that um is really the best use of the money?
43:00And I think it would be important or helpful for um that to be discussed so that there's a better understanding.
43:11Um, you know, you mentioned you've got your retreat coming and you're gonna talk public and private roads as long as we're talking costs.
43:18Can you ask the developers how much they spend to build those streets that the city is going to take over eventually?
43:26You know, between the curb and gutter and the sidewalk and the pavement, how much the developers are really putting into their infrastructure.
43:35I don't know if they're doing things cheaper, but just you know how much you know they're building brand new roads, so how much does that cost?
43:42You know, just order magnitude type of thing, rough estimate.
43:46We're not the only ones who build roads.
43:50Okay, that's all I got.
43:57Um, just had a quote at the retreat.
43:59Um I think it would be advisable if the supervisors discuss setting some criteria for the roads that we will accept.
44:09Ideally, that these roads would you know meet the same standards as our roads need.
44:15Um instead of they have to if we take them.
44:19That part is in the role.
44:21That's good news, then, because I've seen other um roads built by a private contractor where they just lay some asphalt on some dirt.
44:30And um, no, that won't do.
44:32Yeah, if it's a private road, they don't have to meet a standard, but those decisions are made before the development is approved.
44:42You're you're putting those conditions in place.
44:46So a public road must meet this our standards.
44:50And if again you have other ideas though, put them out there because there might be something something great.
45:00All right, then we will move to our final public comment.
45:04Is there anybody with public comment?
45:09Then if there is nothing else, I will adjourn the meeting close to when we were gonna start.