4:44Um I'll go ahead and call this a meeting to order at five thirty-four.
4:54Okay, let's start with roll call.
5:19Okay, that's Brian Stewart on the phone.
5:21Brian Stewart on the phone.
5:30And hey, Curtis, you want to do the pledge of allegiance since you were last in?
5:45One nation under liberty and justice for all.
5:55As always, you were forwarded the uh the minutes from our last meeting.
6:01I'm sure you all had a chance to review them.
6:04And we need to go ahead and uh approve those minutes.
6:07Would someone like to make a motion to approve the minutes?
6:10I'll make a motion to approve the minutes of the previous meeting.
6:13You ask if there were anybody had any changes or comments.
6:19Anybody have any changes or comments to our minutes?
6:31Now the chairman reserves a right to modify the agenda in order to most effectively process the agenda items.
6:38Items may be taken out of order.
6:40Items may be combined for consideration by the authority.
6:43Items may be pulled or removed from the agenda at any time.
6:46As far as public comment goes, members of the public who wish to address the airport authority may speak on agendized and non-agendized matters related to the airport.
6:54Comments are limited to three minutes per person or topic.
6:57If your item requires extended discussion, please request the chairman to calendar the matter for a future airport authority meeting.
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7:23the day before the meeting.
7:25The Carson City Airport Authority values your input.
7:27Members of the public who wish to provide live public comment may do so during the designated public comment periods indicated on the agenda in person.
7:37I understand we do not have an airport engineers report tonight.
7:42And we also uh do not have a consent agenda item.
7:47So I guess we can move on to public hearings.
7:55Our sole agenda item tonight is for discussion and possible action.
8:00This is uh agenda H1.
8:04Approve Regional Emergency Medical Services Authority, REMSA as a class two FBO providing air medical transport service to Carson City and surrounding region, including services provided by their care flight division and their part 135 entity, Air Methods Corporation for use by REMSA.
8:27Okay, so um working with RemSA throughout this process has been uh really pleasant.
8:34They're very professional company.
8:36Um there are some moving parts uh to this application, it's a little bit not standard.
8:44Um if you look at the moat proposed motion, um Rimza is the parent of CareFlight, uh which is just a division um of RemSA, and also there's another company involved, Air Methods Corporation.
9:05Uh this approval is gonna be for RemSA for the FBO permit to be able to utilize the care flight division and air methods to run this operation.
9:16Um we did it this way because any company operating at Carson City Airport providing a commercial service needs to have an FBO permit.
9:24Uh so we made sure that the full scope of their operation was covered by this uh agenda item.
9:31Um the operation itself is uh air medical operation.
9:36Um probably heard of Remza or a care flight.
9:42Uh they've been coming in and out of our airport for a very long time.
9:45Uh personally been involved with search and rescue operations where they were deployed, and they've always been fantastic company.
9:55Um they presented a very good application and they had checked all the boxes, uh the required boxes.
10:09But those have been reviewed by myself and Steve Takis.
10:13They've also provided insurance.
10:16I did request some additional items to be included with their application.
10:22One of them it directly addresses a fuel trailer that they'll be utilizing.
10:29Their fuel trailer operation would normally require a self-fueling permit if they were not operating with another FBO.
10:39But they have come to an agreement with Stellar Aviation so that they will be operating under Stellar's SPCC plan and their spill prevention and containment plan.
10:50And they will be operating under their Stellar's supervision.
10:55So they will be all of the requirements from the self-serve self-fueling permit are met by them operating under a class one FBO that already has that fuel service.
11:08If they were to start trying to sell fuel to other parties or acquiring fuel from other sources or something like that, then they would still need be required to get a self-fuel permit.
11:19But they you see in this packet, they executed a letter from Stellar where it's signed by both parties that they will be operating under that class one FBO for that fuel operation.
11:33So that checks that covers the basis for that.
11:36So they won't be required to have an additional self-fuel permit as long as they're operating under those, that criteria.
11:43Also, there it was concern, safety concerns about the uh arrival and departure from the south ramp to the stellar hangar with a helicopter like that.
11:53Um throughout this process, they presented multiple approaches and departure departure procedures.
12:00We reviewed them all in detail, and ultimately we decided that they need to have more freedom than us tying them down to a specific approach or departure.
12:09You do see the letter uh where they get into detail about this attached, about their plan, and it's essentially they're gonna follow standard procedures.
12:20Now, one thing about this company is that they operate in hazardous environments all the time.
12:30That's what they do.
12:32Uh, for them to be able to do a uh steep departure and arrival from the ramp, it is within their skill set and within their helicopter's performance envelope.
12:43Um straight up and straight down is very difficult for a helicopter and for a helicopter pilot.
12:49However, they've proven that they're more than qualified to do so with no issues.
12:54Um I gave them an interim approval for this operation.
12:58So they have been operating out of stellar for about a month, and we've been able to watch them come and go.
13:04And um, as suspected, it's been very safe, and they've not created any hazards for any other aircraft.
13:13Some particular concerns that were brought up was they're uh crossing the active runway.
13:18Um they will be primarily coming and going from the north, so they would be crossing the active runway.
13:24Umfortunately, there's not an advisory circular that specifically addresses this procedure, but um air traffic control either typically typically at a controlled airport, it has them cross midfield or over the numbers, depending on the circumstances.
13:40Um this is one of the reasons why we don't want to tie those pilots down to a particular operation because they need to be able to make a decision based off of the circumstances.
13:50There was a pilot who um, I'm not sure, I don't recall if they were arriving or departing, but they were um on 2-7, and um the REMSA pilot made sure to depart behind that aircraft, not in front of them, uh, ensuring there was no wake turbulence uh from the helicopter that would disturb their operation and did not create a hazard for anybody.
14:16Um that being said, I think that REMSA being at Carson City Airport would be a great benefit to our community, be a great benefit to the airport, uh, and I think they absolutely meet all of the requirements to be an FBO, class two FBO at Carson City Airport.
14:33I'm available for any questions.
14:34RemSA and Stellar have representatives here who are available for questions, and Steve may have a few comments to add.
14:43Yeah, I've reviewed all the elements of the application.
14:46They've checked all the boxes.
14:47As Corey mentioned, we have a couple of interrelated entities that are all related to REMSA.
14:53Um fact, REMSA is just the acronym for their full name, which appears in the application.
15:00And if you look at the certificate of insurance, the second page names the additional insured, and then you can see they're all related.
15:05I checked with Secretary of State, all the entities are current and a good and good standing.
15:12Corey and I each looked at the financials for a nonprofit.
15:15Their financials are very strong.
15:17We did not feel it was appropriate to put them on a public record because they're not a publicly reported company.
15:22Those financials are not normally public information.
15:26I can answer any legal questions you have or any other questions that you have as well.
15:32Steve, in your opinion, does the insurance cover sufficiently?
15:38Yeah, to answer your question, um, yes, the insurance appears to be sufficient.
15:44You know, it's one million dollars per occurrence.
15:46Uh, given the nature of their operation, um, it's it's less than what we would um require for a full service FBO, but they aren't doing a full service FBO.
15:57They're doing an in and out service uh to the community.
16:02And I did review the policy carefully to make sure that there were no other gotchas in there or any other kind of issues.
16:08But I I wasn't really expecting to find anything.
16:10I did look at it anyway, you know, because that's the right thing to do.
16:14Um, I wasn't expecting to find anything because you know they're insured in all the other communities around here, particularly Reno.
16:28Um I was reading a letter here on the fueling standards, and uh Stellar realize any fuel sales and do we realize any fuel lowage fees?
16:40Or are we out of that loop?
16:42Yes, so Stellar does sell fuel, and they will be selling the fuel to um RemSA.
16:49Uh RemSA this is no way prohibiting RIMSA from purchasing fuel from any other provider on the airfield.
16:56Um but this SPC's SPCC plan that they've committed to is Stellars.
17:02Um so if they purchase fuel, they'll be buying it from Stellar or Mountain West, and in that case, the fuel flowage fees are passed through through the FBO to the airport.
17:15So this in no way bypasses any of that.
17:19And that was one of the things I was looking out for.
17:24Would anybody from the public like to speak on this behalf?
17:29Um other members have any discussion or questions.
17:34I have a short comment, which I was a little surprised reading this application.
17:38That uh I have a relationship with a couple of the uh leadership of this organization.
17:44I've known uh Shirley Folk and his Roberts for 25, 30 years, and I've uh used to do a lot of business with Barry DePlantis, their president when he was with IGT.
17:53So they're both high.
17:54I have hold them both in high regards.
17:56I feel that uh it's a good operation and they're in good hands.
18:00So I feel comfortable with the leadership as well as the application.
18:07I'm you know, for myself, I'm excited uh to see them on the airport utilizing the airport and providing services to the community.
18:17Um just watch out for those fixed wing airplanes.
18:22They're doing a good job.
18:25Okay, can I call on a member to make a motion?
18:32Chairman, I moved to approve the class two FBO permit application for REMSA, including services provided by their care flight division and their part 135 entity Air Methods Corporation for use by REMSA.
18:48Any other further discussion?
18:51If not, a second, uh second, second by Mr.
18:59All right, all right.
19:04Let's go ahead and move on to airport managers report.
19:13Okay, so the big thing this month just happened, uh, and that is the uh ACIP meeting with the FAA.
19:26Um primary focus of this meeting was the runway extension versus pavement reconstruction funding availability.
19:35Um, payment services are nearing 55 pavement condition index, uh, which that is an important number because at that point the FAA requires reconstruction.
19:47Um previously we I've talked about this in detail when we approved the ACP, but um, this was the focus of our conversation with the FAA because they've told us that if they do end up funding the runway runway extension, they may not fund uh pavement rehabilitation projects.
20:06Um so we have been and we've been demonstrating to them that we can afford and can move forward with rehabs, but we're not able to do self-funded reconstruction projects.
20:18Um I really brought this to their attention and encouraged them to improve our runway extension projects now because if it's if they are delayed any at all, we may have to reconsider a priorities with the ASIP and delay the runway extension until after we do these reconstruction projects.
20:41Um, unless they pay for all of it, which is technically possible.
20:46Um, just that's what they've told us in the past is they may not.
20:50Um we had really good feedback from the FAA, they're definitely supportive of the extension, and I really believe they heard what I was saying about all this.
21:00Um I'm confident that they're gonna be approving some projects.
21:07Um they'll probably be looking at these things fairly closely and making sure that the runway extension doesn't make it to where we don't have usable taxiways.
21:16But um, I believe if we do that runway extension now or as soon as possible, um we'll be okay.
21:25It will just be we'll be pushing the limits.
21:27Um overall, that meeting went really well.
21:32Um really excited to see what they all the follow-up from that is.
21:37Um we've been working on the budget.
21:40Um, Jim will give you more information on the budget progress on the treasurer's report, uh, but that's been something we've put a lot of energy into this month.
21:50Um I've been working with potential developers for new hangar development.
21:55Uh we continue to have really high interest in hangar development at the airport.
21:59Uh I did receive one potential site plan uh from one of those developers, which a lot of time there's a lot of talk and not much action.
22:08This was really good to see some actual action for one of these developers.
22:12Uh this site plan was not compatible.
22:16Um, so I did give them some feedback, and I'm expecting a follow-up uh with a different site plan that it would be more compatible.
22:24Uh so hopefully we'll see a new lease from that soon.
22:28Um I added this line item in here.
22:33Um I've had a kind of an increase of noise complaints.
22:38Um not overall, but kind of from specific individuals.
22:43I'm not really able to identify exactly why.
22:47Um there was only one actual issue, and that was a low-flying helicopter.
22:55Um it was a valid concern that I addressed with the helicopter pilot.
23:01Um, however, the other complaints that I've received uh had no merit.
23:07There was no uh violation of the um noise abatement procedures, and there was not anyone creating any hazards.
23:15Um I bring it up because one of the complaints expressed a very firm uh dissatisfaction with my performance in investigating the noise complaints.
23:28Um I investigate every single one of these noise complaints in detail, and I follow up with all the pilots.
23:34Sometimes it does take me a little while to get to them.
23:36I have some pending right now, but of course, due to weather events like this and preparation for the board meeting and that sort of thing.
23:43It's gonna it's gonna take me a little bit of time to get to them.
23:47Um, however, it's something that we take very seriously.
23:50Um we want to be good stewards for our community and good neighbors, and the airport is an asset to our community, and uh we want it to remain that away.
23:59Um I will continue to do that.
24:03Um it's uh I'm sorry that that person felt that way.
24:08I there's not much else I can do outside of what I've done for it, and um I I wish I wish there was more we could do, but there's only so much.
24:20Um building is coming along.
24:25Uh the weather has contributed some to some delays.
24:28We do have an updated schedule on that project, and that is attached.
24:33It's a fairly detailed uh Gantt chart.
24:36Um so we should be expecting that to be completed in a couple of months right now.
24:45Um hopefully we don't see any more delays, but uh this weather is definitely creating some already so uh that may not delay the overall timeline of that completion date.
25:00Um but we're getting close.
25:04Also with that project, we are expecting to approve an additional change order.
25:09Um this is a change order that I was originally opposed to.
25:14Uh but after looking into the specific details of why it occurred and why we got ended up with the change order.
25:21Um we determined that we should approve this change order.
25:25It's really, really small in the scheme of things.
25:28It may not even actually require board action.
25:31Um I'll be looking into that, and it may be on the next agenda.
25:39I'll be attending a couple of conferences coming up.
25:43Um the Washington, DC uh government issues conference.
25:48I attended that conference last year and was able to have discussions about the importance of runway extensions in the state of Nevada with FAA leadership.
25:57Um following that meeting, I attended another meeting where at the uh NBAA where the director of airports directly mentioned supporting runway extensions in the state of Nevada.
26:12Uh I think my efforts in attending that conference and vocalizing the importance of runway extensions for not just us but for the state has paid off, and I want to continue to pursue that uh until we get approval of those runway extensions.
26:27Um this is not an issue just for Carson City.
26:31There is a growth in jet and turboprop aircraft across the United States, and run runway we need longer runways to accommodate these aircraft.
26:41Uh also I'll be attending the uh Western Nevada Development District annual conference, and I'll be speaking on the transportation panel.
26:50Um I think this is important to attend these non-aviation conferences and contribute and contribute.
26:57Um I often go to these and I find myself to be the only aviation professional there.
27:03But the reality is aviation is a service that we provide to our communities, and each of these communities as they grow and develop need to know and understand the importance of what these airports are providing for their communities.
27:18And while this is not specifically for Carson City, as aviation is successful across the state of Nevada, it will help Carson City airport uh become successful and will help us provide a good service for our community and overall rise our state to a better standard.
27:36Um I think as a whole, the state could better utilize aviation.
27:41Um I hope to contribute to these conferences and help um help make that happen.
27:51So we have the fuel flowage fees and airport operations numbers.
27:55I have two pages here.
27:57One is for the complete uh numbers for last year, and then the next one is just for January.
28:04We saw the trend continue of higher fuel sales and slightly low, slightly lower airport operations.
28:11Um this is supporting that we have uh more jet and turboprop corporate aircraft using the airport for January.
28:24We see an increase again in fuel sales and um a reduction in operations over the previous year.
28:33And I'm actually kind of surprised.
28:37I would have suspected more uh because of the wet winter we had, but I guess we kind of had a light January last year, too.
28:44So there's one additional item that I included here is a map provided by Rick Lee.
28:51This is additional mowing that was completed this winter season.
28:55Normally during the winters, we're not able to do additional mowing like this.
28:59Um, but he took advantage of the light uh snowfall we've been getting, and they've accomplished some mowing in the triangle area, which you can see detailed in that map.
29:12Um it's very important for the airport to maintain or to reduce wildlife habitat.
29:18Um wildlife habitat um at course tracks animals to the airfield, which are hazard aircraft.
29:26Uh taking these types of actions when able to definitely makes the airport safer for everyone.
29:32Uh it's both safer for the wildlife and for the aircraft to do these types of of things and reduce that, reduce those attractions.
29:41Um, this is better for all parties involved.
29:44Um that is all that I have for the manager's report, and I'm available for any questions.
29:53Uh Corey, I just wonder if you could give for the benefit of the public and for this on the board.
30:00Just an update on the night approval for our RNA GPS two seven approach.
30:07Unfortunately, I don't have any additional information uh from last month.
30:12Um, I was going to include the same item in the manager's report, but it was exactly the same.
30:16We're in queue and we don't have any update uh from that.
30:22I've reached out to every party that I could.
30:25Um, and they all tell me the same thing.
30:28There's nothing we can do.
30:31So we're there, we're not going to be pushed up in the list.
30:33We just want the public to know that we're doing everything that we can on our end.
30:38And that we're simply waiting for the FAA to move forward.
30:43I guess they still have to flight check it.
30:45I think it's more than just a flight check for a change of procedure.
30:49Determine whether we need whether we need the medium intensity runway lighting system.
30:54That will be one of the questions, and they are they may have to actually change the approach to some s to some degree.
31:02So I don't suspect, I don't expect that to happen.
31:05However, they're not just looking at it from a flight perspective, they're looking at the whole procedure.
31:10So the procedure team is this is probably a really in-depth process that they go through.
31:16I know the studies that lean engineering did to come up with the different potential outcomes were very extensive.
31:23That was very expensive grant project, and that was one of the grants was just that.
31:28And um, so the FAA is probably doing their due diligence on their their end, doing the same kind of uh fairly complex analysis.
31:38So that's probably why it's this is a long process.
31:42Um everybody to know that it's still alive.
31:54Any other questions for our airport manager?
31:57If not, we'll move on to the legal counsel's report.
31:59I have nothing to report at this meeting.
32:07Corey and I have been working on uh numbers for next year, working through the budget.
32:11Uh John Rogers has been more than helpful.
32:14What a wonderful uh uh support he's been.
32:17Come in a couple times and work with us to uh get a good handle and a good picture on it.
32:22Uh we've got some preliminary numbers down.
32:24We will be ready for the uh uh review of the budget next month.
32:30So uh it's all in motion at this point.
32:36Anybody have any questions for Jim?
32:40Uh is there any other uh reports or comments from uh members of the uh airport authority?
32:47Any public comments at this time?
32:53Uh we don't really have any agenda items to uh publish yet or prepared yet for next month, but we will be getting providing you all with what we have as soon as we get them in order.
33:03With that, I guess I can call this uh meeting adjourned.