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Historic District Commission Meeting Summary – June 10, 2025

Meeting PortalTuesday, June 10, 2025
BodyChapel Hill, North Carolina
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DateTuesday, June 10, 2025
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0:00

uh we'll maybe go ahead and get started uh and i'll just start with uh with roll call uh nancy here we saw she raised her hand thank you uh Michael uh josh here david here uh don't and duncan is absent tonight um i'm going to read uh actually i think sharnik or anna scott you'll read procedures in and then i'll do the public notice or the public charge rather we don't need to do the procedures because we don't have like a evidentiary hearing great okay then we'll skip that piece uh i think uh we do need to do approval of the agenda however um and uh sharnika sent out the agenda a couple of weeks ago does anybody have any modifications i think maybe the only thing uh that we won't have on the agenda tonight is our candidate to join the commission uh glenn is unable to join us tonight but we'll actually have that as a discussion item but we we won't be reviewing her application officially tonight i could get somebody to approve and somebody to second the agenda or to removed thank you Mike thank you Josh all in favor please say aye that passes thank you uh Shernika and Anna Scott do we have any announcements um yeah so I think tomorrow the council the the board changes uh text amendment will go to council tomorrow um so that would reduce this board size to seven members and change um the quorum um I don't I think that's all that I have uh Anna Scott anything else um nothing else um but that change would go into effect July 1st I did confirm that with Corey this afternoon that's great and then I think uh anyone that's still serving out a term that takes us above that seven would just be grandfather then essentially but we would sort of naturally glide down to seven member commission over time it's my understanding yeah so we have uh three commissioners terms will end at the end of this month and I think Michael and Duncan have shared with the the group that they are not um applying to be reappointed correct it's been a pleasure serving with you all thank you for helping us out Michael we really appreciate it absolutely so then uh I uh Chernik and Anna Scott it may be helpful in the session that we come back to after that gets approved by council assuming that it does just to make sure that we know whether it's it's you all or it's um Kevin just sort of you know reset us on sort of what the rules of procedure are and I think we have struggled with quorum sometimes with schedules and I believe one of the enhancements with that change is going to allow us to get to quorum a little bit easier.

3:29

So it may just be good for us to just all uh hear about that in the first meeting after those those things go into effect so we're all on the same page.

3:38

Yeah so right now our quorum is set by LUMO which requires six um members the role change would just make it like a simple majority of seven so we would need four so it'd be a lot easier to get quorum and and my understanding is that it's it is a simple majority of seated commissioners so if we went down to five technically three would be quorum or I think I think that's right.

4:09

Yeah.

4:10

Yes that's correct but it doesn't exclude um people that are absent as long as the C is filled got it.

4:20

Okay great any other announcements I probably should announce um in light of my term ending at the end of this month that I am also not reapplying um I've looked at my sort of personal commitments moving forward and I just don't think I can give this the time that it deserves for a second term and so I'm very grateful and I've had a lot of fun with you all um that I will not be reapplying.

5:00

Uh you're stuck with me for a while, actually, unfortunately.

5:05

That's good.

5:06

We're glad to hear that, especially if we're gonna have your uh your oratory at the end of the session tonight.

5:11

You'll redo your speech at Clark's.

5:14

I I do think uh uh another friend of ours would be potentially interested in applying.

5:20

Um if somebody could forward to me the application materials so I could send them to him.

5:25

I I think he'd be very interested.

5:27

That that's great, David.

5:28

And I you know, at the at the end of the um session, we're gonna talk a little bit about recruitment.

5:32

And I would say, you know, those of you that are in the community, so you know, Don, Josh, you know, Nancy and I chatted about this a little bit earlier today.

5:39

I think us continually recruiting for people that are interested is a really good idea.

5:43

And so, you know, Clark and Michael in your travels around town.

5:47

If there's other folks that you think are interested, please do refer them to us.

5:50

It'll always entertain new folks.

5:52

I'll be happy to.

5:53

Thank you.

5:54

And thank you for agreeing to serve with us, Clark.

5:56

We really much we really appreciate it.

6:01

Uh okay.

6:02

Uh any petitions.

6:07

No.

6:08

Okay, great.

6:09

Uh, so uh next item on the agenda would be approval of the minutes.

6:13

So attached to the agenda that Sharnika distributed uh were minutes for both the May 13th and April 25th retreat action item minutes.

6:23

Um there's no questions.

6:26

I'd ask for a move and a second to approve those.

6:31

So moved.

6:32

Thank you, David.

6:33

Okay.

6:33

And Don, second.

6:35

Uh, all in favor, please say aye.

6:37

Aye.

6:38

Aye.

6:39

Aye.

6:40

All right.

6:41

I think we got quorum on that.

6:43

Uh excellent.

6:44

Thank you very much.

6:45

Uh also third item on the agenda was the COA approval report, which is really there for informational purposes.

6:53

It's things that uh staff are approving administratively for the LUMO.

6:58

Uh, and then uh fourth, fifth, and sixth items on the agenda are the written decisions for 208 Spring Lane, 118 Malay Street, and 707 Gimgal Road, uh, which is the written decision of COA placards.

7:13

Um, I'd like to ask for a approval on those, and then a second, please.

7:23

Down boom.

7:24

Thank you, David.

7:26

Okay.

7:27

Uh I think I heard Nancy.

7:28

Nancy, was that you?

7:30

Yes.

7:30

Nancy second.

7:31

All right.

7:32

So all in favor, please say aye.

7:34

I have a question.

7:36

Sorry, sorry.

7:37

Nancy has a question.

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Summary of Proceedings

Historic District Commission Meeting – June 10, 2025

The Chapel Hill Historic District Commission met virtually on Tuesday, June 10, 2025, at 6:30 PM. The meeting covered routine approvals, a candidate interview process, and scheduling for the summer break. Key announcements included upcoming Town Council votes on land use ordinance amendments and the departure of three commissioners.

Consent Calendar

  • Agenda Approval: Approved as amended unanimously.
  • Minutes Approval: Approved May 13, 2025 Action Minutes and April 25, 2025 Retreat Action Minutes unanimously.
  • COA Approval Report and Maintenance Memo: Received as information; no vote required.
  • Written Decisions – Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) Placards:
    • 208 Spring Lane: Commissioner Gurlitz recused himself (property owner). Approved unanimously (6–0).
    • 118 Mallette Street and 707 Gimghoul Road: Approved unanimously (7–0).

Discussion Items

  • Candidate Interview (Glenn): The scheduled candidate was unable to attend due to being out of town. Chair Brian Daniels recommended forming a subcommittee to interview the applicant and forward a recommendation to the Town Council before the June 18, 2025 council meeting (when the council will seat new commissioners). A three-member subcommittee (Chair Daniels, Deputy Vice-Chair Nancy McCormick, and Commissioner Don Tise) was authorized to interview Glenn, contingent on the interview proceeding favorably.
  • Summer Break Decision: The commission voted to take July off and return on August 12, 2025. If a quorum is not available on that date (due to McCormick’s planned absence), staff will adjust the meeting date with proper public notice.

Key Outcomes

  • Subcommittee Authorized: Motion carried unanimously to create a subcommittee to interview candidate Glenn and forward a recommendation to the Town Council.
  • Summer Schedule: July meeting canceled; next meeting set for August 12, 2025, with flexibility to reschedule.
  • Announcements:
    • The Town Council will vote on June 12, 2025 on amendments to the Land Use Management Ordinance (LUMO) and Advisory Board Membership Policy, which would reduce the commission’s size to seven members and lower the quorum to a simple majority of seated members.
    • Commissioner Clarke Martin announced she will not seek reappointment; Chair Brian Daniels also confirmed he will not reapply; Commissioners Michael Booth and Duncan Lascelles (absent) have also indicated they will not seek reappointment. Their terms end in June 2025.

Meeting Transcript

uh we'll maybe go ahead and get started uh and i'll just start with uh with roll call uh nancy here we saw she raised her hand thank you uh Michael uh josh here david here uh don't and duncan is absent tonight um i'm going to read uh actually i think sharnik or anna scott you'll read procedures in and then i'll do the public notice or the public charge rather we don't need to do the procedures because we don't have like a evidentiary hearing great okay then we'll skip that piece uh i think uh we do need to do approval of the agenda however um and uh sharnika sent out the agenda a couple of weeks ago does anybody have any modifications i think maybe the only thing uh that we won't have on the agenda tonight is our candidate to join the commission uh glenn is unable to join us tonight but we'll actually have that as a discussion item but we we won't be reviewing her application officially tonight i could get somebody to approve and somebody to second the agenda or to removed thank you Mike thank you Josh all in favor please say aye that passes thank you uh Shernika and Anna Scott do we have any announcements um yeah so I think tomorrow the council the the board changes uh text amendment will go to council tomorrow um so that would reduce this board size to seven members and change um the quorum um I don't I think that's all that I have uh Anna Scott anything else um nothing else um but that change would go into effect July 1st I did confirm that with Corey this afternoon that's great and then I think uh anyone that's still serving out a term that takes us above that seven would just be grandfather then essentially but we would sort of naturally glide down to seven member commission over time it's my understanding yeah so we have uh three commissioners terms will end at the end of this month and I think Michael and Duncan have shared with the the group that they are not um applying to be reappointed correct it's been a pleasure serving with you all thank you for helping us out Michael we really appreciate it absolutely so then uh I uh Chernik and Anna Scott it may be helpful in the session that we come back to after that gets approved by council assuming that it does just to make sure that we know whether it's it's you all or it's um Kevin just sort of you know reset us on sort of what the rules of procedure are and I think we have struggled with quorum sometimes with schedules and I believe one of the enhancements with that change is going to allow us to get to quorum a little bit easier. So it may just be good for us to just all uh hear about that in the first meeting after those those things go into effect so we're all on the same page. Yeah so right now our quorum is set by LUMO which requires six um members the role change would just make it like a simple majority of seven so we would need four so it'd be a lot easier to get quorum and and my understanding is that it's it is a simple majority of seated commissioners so if we went down to five technically three would be quorum or I think I think that's right. Yeah. Yes that's correct but it doesn't exclude um people that are absent as long as the C is filled got it. Okay great any other announcements I probably should announce um in light of my term ending at the end of this month that I am also not reapplying um I've looked at my sort of personal commitments moving forward and I just don't think I can give this the time that it deserves for a second term and so I'm very grateful and I've had a lot of fun with you all um that I will not be reapplying. Uh you're stuck with me for a while, actually, unfortunately. That's good. We're glad to hear that, especially if we're gonna have your uh your oratory at the end of the session tonight. You'll redo your speech at Clark's. I I do think uh uh another friend of ours would be potentially interested in applying. Um if somebody could forward to me the application materials so I could send them to him. I I think he'd be very interested. That that's great, David. And I you know, at the at the end of the um session, we're gonna talk a little bit about recruitment. And I would say, you know, those of you that are in the community, so you know, Don, Josh, you know, Nancy and I chatted about this a little bit earlier today. I think us continually recruiting for people that are interested is a really good idea. And so, you know, Clark and Michael in your travels around town. If there's other folks that you think are interested, please do refer them to us. It'll always entertain new folks. I'll be happy to. Thank you. And thank you for agreeing to serve with us, Clark. We really much we really appreciate it. Uh okay. Uh any petitions. No. Okay, great. Uh, so uh next item on the agenda would be approval of the minutes. So attached to the agenda that Sharnika distributed uh were minutes for both the May 13th and April 25th retreat action item minutes. Um there's no questions. I'd ask for a move and a second to approve those. So moved. Thank you, David. Okay. And Don, second. Uh, all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. All right. I think we got quorum on that. Uh excellent. Thank you very much. Uh also third item on the agenda was the COA approval report, which is really there for informational purposes. It's things that uh staff are approving administratively for the LUMO. Uh, and then uh fourth, fifth, and sixth items on the agenda are the written decisions for 208 Spring Lane, 118 Malay Street, and 707 Gimgal Road, uh, which is the written decision of COA placards. Um, I'd like to ask for a approval on those, and then a second, please. Down boom. Thank you, David.

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