11:20Uh ladies, are y'all ready for me?
11:25Good morning, everyone.
11:26I'd like to call this meeting of the Chad Nigger Beer Board to order.
11:31Uh welcome to everybody today for being here.
11:34Uh all meeting attendees must sign in at the sign-in sheet at the podium then for sunshine law requirements, so if you haven't done so, please do that.
11:44Uh at this time we ask you to uh mute or turn off your electronic devices so we don't interrupt the meeting.
11:51Make sure I do I do that, okay.
11:54And all individuals wishing to address the board must do so from the podium, and please state your name before making comments, and we do ask you to please step uh speak up also.
12:07It's a little hard sometimes up here to see.
12:09All right, there we go.
12:15How you doing, buddy?
12:23First item on our agenda is approval of the minutes for the meeting of March nineteenth, twenty twenty-six.
12:29Is there a motion to approve those minutes?
12:33Make a motion to approve the meeting March 19th, 23.
12:37Uh is there a second?
12:40All in favor approving the minutes of March 19th, 2026.
12:45Signify by saying aye.
12:51At this time, our court reporter will swear in.
12:54If you're coming to speak at the podium today, you'll need to be sworn in before we get started.
13:00So Lori, I'll turn that over to you.
13:06Anybody that's going to be speaking on anything on the agenda is handed this morning to find.
13:25Thank you very much.
13:33Sergeant Cowan, if you'll bring us up to date, please, sir.
13:39The following are the applications that have already been approved.
13:44Uh number one, the smart music project, springtime in Chattanooga.
13:51Robert Davis is the organizer.
13:53Uh this was for two oh one Riverfront Parkway on April the 11th from 10 to 5.
14:02Number two, Friends of the Festival, Riverfront Nights, Free Summer Music Series.
14:11Mickey McCamish is the organizer for 100 Riverfront Parkway with uh multiple dates.
14:17May the 23rd and May the 30th from 6 to 10.
14:30Uh Riverfront Nights free summer music series with multiple dates on that one as well.
14:37June the 6th, June the 13th, June the 20th, and June the 27th.
14:46Number four, Friends of the Festival.
14:48Uh continuing with the uh free summer music series.
14:53July the 4th, July the 11th, July the 18th, and July the 25th.
15:04120 TE 122, Friends of the Festival, Free Summer Music Series, August the 1st, August the 8th, August the 22nd, August the 29th, and Number 6, TE 123, Friends of the Festival as well for September the 5th.
15:30Thank you very much.
15:32Next item is new temporary beer permit applications.
15:37We have one reflection writing.
15:40Is it uh been approved or do we know yet?
15:43It has it has been approved, yes.
15:46TE 118 reflection writing has been approved.
15:56Okay, beer applications passed from the last meeting.
16:10I think we had a zoning issue the last time on this one.
16:15And um, how y'all doing?
16:20My name is Willie Cox.
16:27Before we get started, Mr.
16:28Cox, has this been approved by zoning, or where are we on it?
16:32So there was a no in the portal.
16:41It's been approved by zoning.
16:45Yes, that's correct.
16:49So this is uh name change and ownership.
16:52So you're becoming the new owner?
16:55So I'm just moving from uh three blocks down.
16:59And so I had Bill License last year, and I had Bill License for 12 years.
17:05So what I'm trying to just give you a I got an application on the new location.
17:13Now any questions from any members?
17:18I'm trying to recall while he was speaking.
17:20Did we take care of what legal had on record?
17:24I know there was something that legal wanted to bring to the board.
17:28Yeah, so in your background check, it shows that there is a charge for um possession of gambling device or record in gambling in 2021.
17:45Well it had been uh dismissed.
17:47I got paperwork on it.
17:48It would dismiss the 2022.
17:52And they pulled in a sponge from record.
17:56Well, just so that you know this showed up on your FBI background check.
18:00So you may you may want to double check that exponentially.
18:04I went up to get it disponible.
18:05They told me it'd be uh seven weeks uh seven months before I can get it a sponge off of the record.
18:12But they dismissed it.
18:13I got to dismiss the paper where they dismissed it.
18:28Can we make a copy of this to put it in his wow?
18:37Any questions from any of the board members?
18:50And what's your hours?
18:52Uh my hours from 12 to 9.
18:56I have old older group people that come in, you know, retired, and so that you know, and they so I don't have nobody on over 35 and you know, under 35 come in, you know.
19:09So from noon to nine.
19:12Yeah, so nine nine and um 12 o'clock to nine at night.
19:17So and are you serving food also?
19:21Are you doing alcohol?
19:28Yes, beer, no uh, no food, no, and you know, nothing else, just beer.
19:35Are you serving alcohol?
19:36Or not are they bringing alcohol in?
19:42I didn't have no brown bag.
19:43I know they unless they're brown bagging or something, you know.
19:46So they are brown bagging or they're not.
19:51So what I'm hearing you say is there will be no alcohol in your building at all.
20:00Oh, if they brought brown bag, yes, if he brown bag, and you know, if it didn't bag, you know, but I don't I'm not trying to get uh local license or nothing like that for that just brown bag.
20:09So what I just heard you say is they're going to be able to be BYOB bring their own bottle.
20:14There is a license, and that's why I want to go down this road with you.
20:17There is a license that you need to apply for brown bags.
20:23Yeah, then you probably need to do that before they start bringing them in.
20:27Okay, because that that can lead up to a citation.
20:36Any other questions?
20:40Is there a motion to approve the application?
20:44I make a motion that we approve W Sports Bar Beer 1387.
20:56Any discussion to the motion?
20:59Not all call the roll.
21:14And the chair votes.
21:18Thank you very much.
21:32I was thinking it was Christie.
21:34It's around a couple of boards.
21:40Make that correction.
21:43Glad we got that one squared away.
21:45Next item on our agenda is new beer applications.
21:50Bertha, I'll let you uh read the read that place, ma'am.
21:55Representing the Hatch Outfitters LLC doing business as the Hatch Outfitters.
22:09Is making application to engage in the sell of consumer beer at 3227 Branett Road?
22:15Fields has had a beer permit for this location.
22:18The location is owned by John Conrad and his own C Cybody here for the for the uh hatch outfitters.
22:30Okay, if not, then I guess I'll accept a motion to move it to our next meeting.
22:41You still we still have some are we working on something on this legal-wise?
22:46Uh they're missing their FBI back.
22:50So I can't approve it, but I don't like it.
22:55Okay, is there a motion to move it to our next meeting?
22:58I make a motion that we move uh beer 1394 to our next meeting, which is April 16th, April 16th, thanks.
23:15Any further discussion to the motion?
23:18All in favor of proving moving the moving the uh application to the next meeting.
23:23Signify by saying aye.
23:25Aye opposed, none noted.
23:28All right, thank you.
23:32Next applicant representing Flatlands 2 LLC doing business as Champions Chicken.
23:40Seth Seth Champion is making application to engage in the sale of consumer beer at 6925 Lee Highway.
23:48Champion has had a big treat for this location.
23:51The location is owned by Jay Lee and his zone C C morning, Mr.
23:58Uh Attorney Chuck Lawson here for Champions.
24:01Um we have held a valid license for a decade there.
24:06Um we've reached out to the city.
24:08Learned that the traditional early warning system, if you will, the 60-day notification for renewal did not occur.
24:16Apparently, it it hit a lot of us.
24:19Um our district manager who's present today, uh, Mr.
24:23Aaron Murray realized it, self-reported, and immediately completed all the application protocols, background check, all the inspections, fire marshal, everything.
24:34We understand from just this morning that everything is in and it's just waiting this step for approval.
24:41And we have a little electronic confirmation of that.
24:44I hope that's consistent with what you guys see on your end.
24:51Yeah, I signed off on it.
24:53Well, before we get started, I will say it's the best crawfish I've ever eaten.
24:58Okay, now that we're now that that's over with.
25:00Is there any questions for the applicant?
25:07I heard you say it lapse.
25:09How long from the expiration date till now, I'm assuming.
25:1621 days was yesterday, and no beer has been sold.
25:20So in that 21-day interim, everything was completed because we had to do a new application as opposed to the renewal.
25:27So, you know, fortunately, we were able to get in here, but it's been actually three weeks and one day to date from the lapse.
25:36It lapsed at the beginning of the year.
25:40But from when we self-reported, it's been three weeks because we didn't we didn't realize it.
25:45And once we did, we reported it.
25:48And you know, the mayor's office, Chris Anderson acknowledged we can see in our system we didn't send anything out, you know, emails, letters, any notices of the need to renew.
26:00And so that's why we self-reported.
26:03So I heard you say two things.
26:05Uh so from January till now.
26:10Have Champions been selling beer?
26:13Not once we realized it.
26:14The day we saw it, which is when we self-reported, which was March 11, all beer sales were suspended.
26:22And then you stated uh that you all didn't receive the notifications.
26:29Correct, as acknowledged by the mayor's office that they look and so error on the city's bill.
26:35Well, they it there I I'll I'll explain it this way in answer to that.
26:40This Monday, the mayor himself issued an executive order granting a 90-day grace period to people who would had a valid beer license as late as January of 24 and had not renewed it.
26:57If they once they complete their application for the new permit, they will be given 90 days to sell beer within that waiting period until we can get before the honorable board.
27:06Okay, and there is a posting that will be provided that we can put in place of the permit so that and in that EO, the executive order, he recites that we didn't send the notice that we customarily and regularly do for bars and restaurants to renew.
27:22Right, thank you, sir.
27:23And I see uh Chris Anderson uh is here as well.
27:26You want to address us?
27:28Do we need to do the application?
27:31Yeah, let's do the application.
27:33I think he's speaking on their behalf.
27:34Uh here's nine copies of the executive order.
27:37It is germane to this discussion if you would allow me a minute.
27:42Take one down and pass the grant.
27:47I mean, I think I got another chairman Mayfield.
27:50May I address the board just briefly?
27:51I don't want to keep you here all morning.
27:53Uh, first of all, uh, Chris Anderson, mayor's office on behalf of Mayor Kelly.
27:57Once again, thank you for being on one of the hardest working boards in the city of Chattanooga.
28:01Most people don't have to meet twice a month like you guys do, and the meetings don't go quite as long for most of the other boards.
28:07So thank you for your volunteer service here today.
28:09Uh I just handed out a copy of Mayor Kelly's executive ordered uh 2026-03 that was issued this week.
28:18Um we have an issue with notification.
28:24I I would quibble just a little bit with no notification was sent out.
28:27That's we don't believe that's correct.
28:29What we believe is happening is notification is being sent to whoever applied for the permit last.
28:36And you know, I've worked a lot of my career in restaurants.
28:39Um, many of you up there have.
28:41Do you have the same people 12 months after you apply for a permit?
28:44No, it's it's a high turnover business, and our system does not reflect that.
28:50Uh, soon you will see an ordinance uh before city council, and I will brief this body before it goes to city council that changes that permitting process to more comply with a change in state law that allows us to do it far less frequently as far as the permit renewals less frequently.
29:06Uh but we did discover this, and the mayor issued the executive order to allow businesses to come into compliance without fear of coming forward to tell us that they're expired and we don't know it, and then they get hit with a penalty of okay.
29:21Well, you can't sell beer for two or three months.
29:23Thanks for being honest with us.
29:25So this is an attempt to get everyone into compliance in the city.
29:28If they've had this issue, countless others have had it too.
29:31This is an effort to get compliance, which is our goal.
29:35And I'll take any questions you have on it, share a board.
29:39Chris, where do y'all see the uh where do you see the lack of how does it break down?
29:46So the system that we use is open gov in the treasury office, and basically you don't we don't know how to contact every restaurant in town unless they self-identify their contact information to us.
30:00Otherwise, that database doesn't exist.
30:01So when someone applies, let's say they're the assistant general manager or whoever it is who's told to apply for the beer permit, they put in their email address.
30:10Now they may be you know, name at name of restaurant.com, or it may be a Gmail address or maybe whatever.
30:17And there are many times we had this issue last year too, and thought we had a solution to it then.
30:22Turned out it didn't work, so we're gonna do something more radical.
30:25Um, where people we do send out the notices, and the people in charge of the business simply do not receive them because the person has moved on and they don't live here anymore, or whatever the issue with hundreds and hundreds of restaurant permits in Chattanooga, this happens.
30:42Is there uh any consideration being given to sending a written notice to the physical address of the restaurant?
30:50We we considered a lot of options, Mr.
30:52Uh that one is pretty cost prohibitive when you think about how many uh restaurants there are not only for the postage and the cost of printing, but also the staff hours that would go into mailing every single restaurant in Chattanooga.
31:07Uh that's what I thought of first, uh, but it's it's too cumbersome.
31:11So uh state law allows us to go to a much simpler form, uh, and we'll be doing that within the next couple of months.
31:17I've already written a draft of the ordinance change, and uh attorney McDonald uh was in it yesterday making some edits that were very helpful.
31:25Uh and we should have that any day now.
31:30Chris, were you all to bring this executive order out?
31:33Were you all bombarded by uh customers or our suppliers just because what brought on the executive order?
31:42We've had a couple of different restaurant groups that have come to us with hey, we would have complied if we had gotten the notification.
31:48We want to, and they told us, because I'll tell you, we we don't necessarily know if somebody has expired unless we go look at every single permit.
31:55So I applaud those restaurants that have told us, hey, we're not in compliance, we need to renew.
32:00They've self-reported.
32:02And if there are a couple of restaurant groups, there are others.
32:06Chris, may I ask, excuse me, under scope of authorization, the duration.
32:10Can you please clarify the statement there?
32:13The state of Tennessee allows municipal mayors 15 days to issue emergency executive orders, which uh Mayor Kelly has done, as have uh most of his predecessors in the mayor of Chattanooga's office.
32:23Um we can only issue it for a 15-day period.
32:26You may remember a few years ago when we had the police presence down on Station Street due to an increase in in violent activity there.
32:34I think it was three years ago that I spent every weekend down there over the summer.
32:38Um we had about a four-month executive order period, but we had to reissue it every 15 days.
32:45This one is issued for 15 days.
32:47We may extend it to 30 with a second 15-day order, but the order actually gives the applicant 90 days from the moment they reapply.
32:57It's not just, hey, we're expired, give us a permit.
33:00It's hey, we're expired, and here is a new completed application, and while it's going through our bureaucratic process, it gives them a 90-day window to continue their service, provided they've been permitted either last year or the year before, legally with the city of Chattanooga.
33:16No change in ownership more than 5%, no change in the name or the location of the business.
33:22And these will be trigger points for renewal in the new ordinance too, those exact items.
33:27I guess one more question, Chris.
33:29Will we within 15 days?
33:31Uh, because we just got this today.
33:34So if there's another one, will this board be notified prior to the I will notify you now that if there is another one, it will look exactly like this, except instead of uh March 31st, it will say uh April 14th.
33:48Okay, and uh it will be good for 15 days.
33:50And I'll make sure to send to I guess I'll send to Bertha and it can go to y'all from there.
33:57Yeah, that'd be good.
33:58But it'll be exactly like this with different dates.
34:00Okay, thank you, sir.
34:04Any questions of Chris?
34:06Chris, thank you for bringing us up to speed on that.
34:09It sounds like y'all are trying to get a grip on the on the bear.
34:14We are, and we actually moved pretty quickly this week.
34:16This was lightning speed for for a government.
34:18We're pretty proud that just a few days we resolved this, at least for a while.
34:22Uh the ordinance change has been written uh and is already going through the proper channels to make this easier for small businesses, which is that's the last thing we want to hurt.
34:32All right, thank you, Chris.
34:33Thank you, Chairman.
34:34All right, any questions of the applicant?
34:37I just have one question.
34:38I was curious about the other champions location.
34:40Do they have a valid permit?
34:42Um, all but the MLK location, which we also self-reported, and we're waiting on the fire marshal report, which is scheduled for this coming Monday.
34:54And so um, obviously, we're not within the grace period, and he's right.
35:00It they did mention in the EO that they had an out-of-date email system, but the fact remains that we got no notice.
35:05Um, so I want to agree with Mr.
35:07Um so yes, we anticipate coming before this board on May 26th.
35:13In fact, I believe we're on the docket because we're anticipating being fully compliant, having everything in but for your approval.
35:22So with that being said, is MLK selling beer worth.
35:31So I have a question.
35:32Just going off of what Chris said, did the email possibly went to uh a former person that may have filled out um the beer application.
35:42That is possible, but that location opened in early 16.
35:51And God only knows to be candid who might have applied on behalf of that restaurant at that time.
36:00Uh I'm fairly certain there's not a single employee that is there today that was there back then.
36:07So it it it it sounds like it just got lost in the ether because if that's how they determine the notification recipient is who applied for it initially, it could have been anybody.
36:21So is it not the owner that usually applied for the beer presentation?
36:24It is not, no ma'am.
36:26Um typically uh the store manager, or you know, that was the second store, so there was already administrative staff that worked for ownership at you know, MLK was open in 09, and then the Lee Highway, which was the second restaurant, it was open in 16, and there were managers all over that were familiar with the beer permit process, and heck it could have been somebody from the Lee Highway location that assisted the ownership in that.
36:55But it there, you know, uh back in those days the owner was still in the kitchen cooking chicken.
37:02Um, you know, uh so it certainly would not have been had the ownership received notice, of course, that we wouldn't be in this pickle.
37:12So there may be the issue.
37:14Point of information.
37:16Um for the smaller establishments, we often see the owners actually applying for the bear permits.
37:24The bigger the establishment is, you either have like some sort of food and beverage director, district manager, someone of that nature actually applying for it.
37:33So ideally the process is for the owner to do that, but the bigger the organization is the harder, I guess it is for that makes sense.
37:44That's a good thing.
37:48That's perfectly said.
37:53Is it in the code when it expires?
37:57It's it's on the actual um permit on the permit.
38:02On the permit that it expires on even if you weren't notified.
38:06It is your responsibility to maintain.
38:09Absolutely, 100%, which is why we self-reported.
38:11And that was before there was a grace period without pocketing.
38:14I don't get an email, and I I never default.
38:18For the record, right?
38:22So I raised my hand a long time ago, but I do have another.
38:27Yeah, I'm sorry, don't forget to put your button, please.
38:34Could there not be an additional person?
38:36So if there is a larger entity that you're so to avoid this in the future, could there not be a secondary contact in instances like this?
38:47Maybe the owner also has to have their email on record so that we can avoid that would be Chris Sands.
38:54You know, I I can speak to Treasury about this because they're the ones that you know can add and subtract to the application, and that might be an option.
39:03I'd have to see if the system actually allows a secondary contact.
39:08That sounds like a great idea.
39:10We much prefer that.
39:14Further questions of the applicant.
39:16You know, I have a question for Mr.
39:19Since I've been on a board, this is actually the second order that the mayor has had to put out.
39:26Yes, that's correct.
39:27So does these notices come from the treasurer's office?
39:30So what are they supposed to come from?
39:32Yes, all permit renewal notifications come from the city of Chattanooga's treasury office.
39:37So right now, anybody that has an expired license, even though they know their license is expired and just haven't been in to do it, can comply to this same order.
39:47Uh for this brief window of time, yes.
39:50And we are let me be clearer about what I said earlier.
39:54We are going away from this system of expiration for permits.
40:00So we can I think we can add a second email address to open gov, but I think that will be a moot point in a couple of months when the new ordinance takes effect.
40:13We just made a lot of people happy.
40:16You just made a lot of people happy.
40:18We thought it's certainly we're talking a five or ten year renewal obligation.
40:24That would be awesome.
40:25Mayor Kelly Kelly was very adamant this week when he told me how he wanted this to go and he wants us to protect and save small businesses and make it easier on them.
40:33We should not be a burden or a bureaucratic weight on these businesses.
40:37We should make it very clear and easy to be compliant with the law.
40:42My last question to you, Chris.
40:44Is there other models?
40:45Have you seen this model somewhere else?
40:46I'll have the mayor observe benchmark any other city doing what we're doing in these places.
40:53Um do you mean what what I'm going to be proposing to city council or what or the current law?
40:58Uh what we've proposed, what you're proposing.
41:00Other cities in Tennessee do it that way.
41:02There's a state law that kind of guides that that's been updated recently.
41:08Is there a motion to approve the application?
41:11I'll make a motion to approve.
41:19Discussion to the motion.
41:22All right, I'll call the roll.
41:38And the chair votes are yes.
41:41Thank you very much.
41:55Now is there any matters for discussion that the beer board would like to discuss at this point?
42:08I will say, just for point of uh discussion, uh, for all the small businesses that watching that we have yet a penalty two for serving even before they call it, and that we did not adjust that issue.
42:21We'll probably get uh some feedback on that exists.
42:25Yes I do want to resolve it.
42:31Um here for a public comment.
42:35Anybody that wishes to address the board at this time.
42:47If that's the case, then we have no more business.
42:50Catherine, is there anything else that you need to bring us up to date on?
42:54So is there a motion to adjourn?
43:04All in favor of adjourning, signify by saying aye.
43:08Thank you very much.
43:10Yeah, that being that could go by.