12:44Good afternoon, everyone.
12:46I'll call to order the Tuesday, June twenty-third meeting of the Chattanooga City Council, and I will recognize Councilwoman Noel to lead us in our Pledge of Allegiance and Invocation.
13:41Help us remember our shared purpose to serve the people of Chattanooga with integrity, respect, and compassion.
13:55Grant them safety, protection, and a safe return home.
15:00Where there is frustration, please bring patient.
15:02Where there is division, please bring unity.
15:06May all that we do reflect a commitment to the common good and the well-being of those we serve.
15:14These words we ask in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.
15:20Thank you, Councilwoman.
15:22And welcome everyone again to our city council meeting.
15:26Just a reminder quickly here at the outset to please silence your cell phones if you have those with you so we don't have any disturbances during our meeting.
15:36And I'll give just an overview of how our meetings will run so you'll know what to expect.
15:41During the first half of our meeting, which is our agenda session, the council up here will discuss items that are on our agenda to be voted on this evening.
15:51Normally we would talk then about items on our uh next week's agenda.
15:56Um, however, we will not be meeting next week, so um please make a note of that as well.
16:02Um there will be no council meeting next Tuesday, and so our our following meeting will be on July 7th.
16:08Um we will then look at our future considerations, um items that'll be coming before council on July 7th or later.
16:16Um, and we will uh discuss those as a council as well if needed.
16:22Um there are no special presentations or any committee meetings or department reports this evening.
16:30So after we're done discussing our uh agenda items as outlined, we'll have a brief recess where we will need an attorney client meeting with our city attorney this evening.
16:41Um, and we'll recess for a period of time and then come back.
16:45And uh once we come back, we'll be voting on all the items on our agenda for this evening.
16:50Um following all of that, there will be a period at the end of our meeting where we're happy to hear from members of the public who are here to address counsel on on any topic.
17:00Um, and at that time um you'll just be directed to come to the podium up front, and our city attorney will read some rules um for that portion of our meeting at that time.
17:11So, council, if you would um could I please get a motion on our minutes from our last meeting?
17:17So, we do have a motion properly seconded, and the minutes from our June 16th meeting will stand as published.
17:27And look with me now, if you would, at the items on our agenda for this evening.
17:31It's a fairly short agenda, but certainly important as we have our final reading of our budget.
17:40Any questions about that before we move on?
17:44Questions or comments.
17:48Okay, we do have one ordinance on first reading, and then a handful of resolutions concerning various city departments.
18:03Are there any questions about any of those items, council?
18:07Okay, do you need me the resident change of uh sure?
18:14Yeah, if you don't, yeah.
18:15Um, we did uh provide an alternate version on item F here for you today.
18:21Just wanted to make sure y'all were aware of that.
18:23Uh the initial resolution through planning said natural infusions and the name of that uh entity that is going to be operating a distillery, alcohol distillery is called Dam D A M Whiskey Corporation.
18:37So we have an alternate version that has that on.
18:40We learned that this morning here from Mr.
18:45We also um just to note have an alternate version of that very next resolution, um, item G that we'll be reading, and the difference there um is just the wording towards the end.
18:58Um so if you look there, um after after the wording Office of Justice Programs, that language to find one full-time victim service specialist, emergency assistance to crime victims, and training.
19:15That's the um the new language that just tracks the grant that uh the police department is working on for this, and just wanted to make sure the wording was correct on that.
19:28Oh, yes, councilwoman Hill, you're recognized.
19:30Just a quick question.
19:32Um, when I read the uh application for the limited partnership for the distillery.
19:40Um, I was focused on all of the details of where it is, not as much the name.
19:45Um so am I to understand that right beside Chattanooga Whiskey is going to be a place that names itself damn whiskey?
19:52Yes, ma'am, right next door.
19:54Is the applicant here?
20:03There's a CVS neckers across the street.
20:07Could you come to the podium?
20:08Yeah, if you wouldn't mind coming up to to answer just a couple questions.
20:13So you are you're renting the space right beside Chattanooga whiskey, and you're going to call your business dam whiskey.
20:21We've been in business since 2020.
20:26Well, we're actually uh located right now, our distillery operation in a dam is why the name of it is a hydro dam.
20:35All right, thank you.
20:38Thank you very much.
20:40Any other questions on this item, council?
20:42I like to taste the damn whiskey.
20:47Thank you very much.
20:49Um, well, let's look then at our purchasing items for this evening.
20:57Oh, chair, I have a question for Mandy.
21:03Yes, Councilman Clark, you're recognized.
21:07Uh Mandy, I have a question regarding the COM site.
21:12Something's weird with the light today.
21:14I don't know what's on screen.
21:16Is this a resolution or a purchasing item?
21:20Is that what you're saying?
21:22Would you have any questions about purchasing?
21:26I just try to understand.
21:28I'm on uh purchasing.
21:30Okay, fourth one down, looks like uh the come site, sorry.
21:35Is so first of all, I'm in love with our on-site uh employee clinic, and I'm learning about all the amenities, including uh we have a uh physical therapist and we have three behavioral health counselors on site um at for our employees.
21:53The comsite employee assistance is for um crisis support.
22:02Is this are they connected or I mean if you could help me?
22:06They are not connected.
22:07So that is our EAP, so our employee assistance program for the city.
22:10We had previously used Compsych.
22:12So they we went out for an RFP again, they were the winners again for the RFP.
22:17So they provide more than just mental health therapy, they provide legal assistance, they provide financial assistance, child their care assistance, all those types of things to get people resources.
22:26So they're basically for if you have a crisis happen or um substance abuse issue, you can go to COMPSYC for that immediate immediately.
22:34And not to be confused with the services that we offer.
22:37And this is just by lack of information.
22:39Yeah, for the behavioral health counseling.
22:42This is I guess it's somewhat similar, but not the same.
22:46Yes, I would say that the more use of our behavioral health counselors would be for long-term uh ongoing continuity of care EAP is for a situation, like if you had a uh a death in the family or something and you just wanted to talk to somebody about that, they can talk to you about wills and probate and things like that, or they can just walk you through the counseling process on it.
23:03But most organizations have an employee assistance program that is free to employees to use.
23:08And this is what this is.
23:09Yes, I think this is awesome.
23:10I just wanted to know if it was like a double dip thing to where we already have it on site at the employee at Will Advantaged Clinic.
23:18Okay, thank you, ma'am.
23:24All right, we do have one sole source purchase as well.
23:30All right, any other questions or comments, counsel, about anything on our agenda for this evening.
23:38Uh seeing none, we'll turn our attention to our future considerations list.
23:47So as you look through here, please hit your lights if you have any questions or comments.
24:01Councilwoman Hill, you're recognized.
24:04Chair, you let me know this morning that we would be having a presentation uh on the 7th of July about the resolution to adopt a comprehensive safety action plan for the city.
24:16So thank you for that update.
24:18Um just saying that for the record since we brought it up last week.
24:22Um, but I also do have a question on uh 10 Bree.
24:28It's uh resolution authorizing the mayor to uh execute an agreement with Hamilton County courts to conduct litter pickup on city streets.
24:39And my question is how does this?
24:41I mean, this is what we've had as our go-to for litter um for many many years.
24:47Um, and so I'm wondering how this fits into the overall litter action plan.
24:54Because I don't remember it being identified within the list of here's all the different things we're doing.
25:04Thank you, Councilwoman uh Darren of Deputy Chief of Staff.
25:07I had a similar question when I saw this item up.
25:10I'm did invite Bill to um join me at the podium with the specifics from public works.
25:16This is an item that our uh program that we've been involved in actually went on a hiatus, if I remember correctly, shortly after uh COVID had passed.
25:25So we we we saw that uh how it fits in with the 19 new positions that are in the budget uh is yet to be seen and how they coordinate.
25:33It is a contract that we have renewed with uh Hamilton County courts, and as we move forward, I think we will be looking very uh intently at this contract to see how it does interface or how it reacts with the 19 new positions.
25:50So we will be asked to consider approving the contract.
25:55We haven't until we do this on July 7th.
26:00Um so before so I guess on July 7th, when we're back, I um I would like to have more clarity on how this fits into the plan overall.
26:14Where are these folks going to be expected to do?
26:17I mean, 60 grand may be a great deal compared to having somebody on our payroll.
26:21I just want more details, please.
26:24Absolutely happy to thank you.
26:32Council, are there any other questions or comments about any items on our future considerations list?
26:41I do uh I almost called these mayor days.
26:46Um sorry, it's Jotch.
26:50I think this might be another question for you.
26:52It's regarding the regional planning agency about the interlocal agreements.
26:58I've got a question, and it's just I can't I cannot believe I missed this, but uh apologies, I would have emailed you sooner.
27:07When we talk about the framework, and this might get a little hairy.
27:11So if we need to yield to a another conversation about this, that would be great.
27:16When it talks about the framework for municipal and regional planning services, why do we have if they're breaking off from us?
27:26And I see you smile as you know where I'm going with this.
27:30Why do we care about the jurisdiction the responsibilities of the Hamlet County Planning Department?
27:38Because we they will still be using some of our resources, even though they broke up with us?
27:44Yes, that's a very good question.
27:46I appreciate you asking it, Councilman.
27:48So part of this interlocal agreement is defining the new jurisdictional financial responsibilities along with services.
27:57The second part of it, and probably the most important part of this interlocal agreement, is still maintaining the Hamilton County's uh responsibility to pay into the MPO because as the regional planning agency is responsible for managing the local MPO, that work will still be done by RPA staff in relation to Hamilton County, and they will still be required to pay for those services, and that's one of the big uh outcomes, if you will, or under important parts of this interlocal agreement uh is defining that financial relationship.
28:42That does not go away, essentially.
28:45So would they still have any jurisdiction?
28:48First of all, the city of Chatter Chattanoogans are county residents.
28:53I know that that concept is difficult for some of our colleagues on the other side.
28:58So my question is is that once they form this new Hamilton County Planning Department, does their jurisdiction change for the inside the city?
29:08Because we're the only municipality, and someone maybe help me with this, that's we're kind of separating from.
29:16Like the other municipalities like East Ridge and others will still use the Hamilton County Planning Department.
29:26So it's Lakesite, Ridge Side.
29:29I might have to call Karen up here to give me a little lakesite and ridgeside and lookout mountain will still um because their their levels of use are kind of small.
29:39Smaller, we will still maintain it and and provide assistance to that.
29:43We will not be rendering services to Hamilton County unincorporated from this point forward.
29:50Only in relation to the MPO and and in funneling federal funds, obviously, through our transportation dollars and working through that process.
30:00Yes, and they still will be responsible for paying for those services.
1:12:41We are back in session.
1:12:42Madam Clerk, if you would please read item seven A.
1:12:45An ordinance here and after, also known as the fiscal year twenty twenty-six, twenty twenty-seven operations budget providing revenue for the fiscal year beginning July one, twenty twenty-six, and ending on June thirtieth, twenty twenty-seven, appropriating same to the payment of expenses of the municipal government, fixing the rate of taxation on all taxable property in the city, and the time taxes and privileges due how they shall be paid when they shall become delinquent, providing for interest and penalty on delinquent taxes and privileges, amending Chattanooga City Code, part two, chapter two, Section Two Sixty Seven, relative to pay leave for active duty training and to amend Chattanooga City Code, Part Two, Chapter Thirty One, Sections Thirty One Thirty Six, Thirty One Thirty Seven, Thirty One Forty One, and Thirty One Forty Three, Sections Thirty One Three Twenty Two and Thirty One Three Fifty Four Council, We Do I have Amotion Properly Seconded On Our Operations Budget Ordinance.
1:13:45Are there Any Questions or Comments Before We Vote?
1:13:50See None, Madam Clerk, If You Would Please Take A Roll Call Vote Councilman Henderson.
1:13:56Councilwoman Hill.
1:14:01Councilwoman Burth.
1:14:13And No's Andrew Passes On Final Reading.
1:14:18If you would please read item seven B, Madam Clerk.
1:14:22An ordinance appropriating authorizing and allocating funds to the capital improvements budget for the fiscal year twenty twenty-six, twenty twenty-seven.
1:14:55Councilman Henderson.
1:15:03We have seven yeses and no votes.
1:15:06And so our capital budget ordinance passes unanimously on final reading.
1:15:19Thank you, Crusade.
1:15:21Madam Clerk, if you would please read item 8A.
1:15:25An ordinance amending Chattanooga City Code Part 2, Chapter 26, Parks and Playgrounds, Section 2617 of the Acts Prohibited.
1:15:35Council, we have a motion properly seconded on this ordinance.
1:15:39Are there any questions or comments before we vote?
1:15:47And the ordinance passes on first reading.
1:15:51Item 9A, please, Madam Clerk.
1:15:54A resolution authorizing administrator for the Department of Economic Development to enter into a second agreement to exercise option to renew with Chattanooga Flying Discs Club Inc.
1:16:04And substantially the form attached for disc golf courses at specific city public parks for daily use and tournament play for an additional term of one year for the term through June 30, 2027.
1:16:19Council, we do have a motion properly seconded on this resolution.
1:16:23Are there any questions or comments?
1:16:30And the resolution passes.
1:16:33Item 9B, please, Madam Clerk.
1:16:36A resolution amending resolution number 32533 as follows.
1:16:40A resolution accepting and approving the award of unallocated and accrued interest of American Rescue Plan funds as part of the Chattanooga Relief and Recovery Allocation Plan to the Office of Early Learning for James A.
1:16:52Henry operational costs for an amount not to exceed 250,000 dollars.
1:16:59Council, we do have a motion properly seconded on this resolution.
1:17:02Are there any questions or comments before we vote?
1:17:09And the resolution is adopted.
1:17:12Item nine C, please.
1:17:14A resolution confirming Mayor Kelly's appointment of John Law to the Beer Board for District 1 for a term beginning on June 30, June 24, 2026, and ending on June 23, 2029.
1:17:27Council, we do have a motion properly seconded on this resolution.
1:17:31Are there any questions or comments?
1:17:38And the resolution is adopted.
1:17:40Law here by chance?
1:17:44Well, if you're looking watching online, thank you for your service to the city on this board.
1:17:49Um item 9D, please, Madam Clerk.
1:17:52A resolution authorizing administrator for the Department of Public Works to award the continuing on call professional surveying services, blanket contract number E26010901 with the following nine consultant firms.
1:18:06One ASA Engineering and Consulting Inc.
1:18:09Two, Canon and Canon LLC 3 Corps Engineering LLC for Earthworks LLC 5 Johnson Merriman Merriman and Thompson Inc.
1:18:20Six Labella Associate 7 LDA Engineering A LJA Serving Inc.
1:18:269 Pape Dawson Consulting Engineers LLC based upon their qualifications within the identified service categories for a four-year term for an annual amount of one million dollars for use by all departments approved second council we do have a motion properly seconded on this resolution are there any questions or comments all in favor any opposed and the resolution is adopted item nine e please a resolution authorizing administrator for the department of public works to approve change order number two to contract number s20012101 City of Chattanooga Hamilton County Water Quality Monitoring Project with Woolper Inc.
1:19:15to add six automated water quality samplers provide continuous statistical analysis and telemetry services for an additional three years and create visualization tools for regulatory reporting for an increase amount of 334,849 dollars for a revised contract amount of 919,849 dollars second council we have a motion properly seconded on this resolution are there any questions or comments all in favor aye any opposed and the resolution is adopted Madam Clerk if you would please read item nine F the alternate version please a resolution authorizing Dam Whitski Corporation to operate an intoxicating liquors manufacturing plan and improving a special exceptions permit for an alcohol distillery small at 1437 Market Street uh damn whiskey corporation to operate approved council we do have a motion properly seconded on this item are there any questions or comments before we vote all in favor
1:20:00A resolution authorizing Dan Whiskey Corporation to operate an Intoxicating Liquors Manufacturing Plan and improving a special exception's permit for an alcohol distillery small at 1437 Market Street.
1:20:12It's authorizing uh damn whiskey corporation to operate.
1:20:20Council, we do have a motion properly seconded on this item.
1:20:23Are there any questions or comments before we vote?
1:20:34We have six yeses and one.
1:20:38So the resolution is adopted.
1:20:41Item 9G, please, Madam Clerk, the alternate version.
1:20:45A resolution authorizing the chief of police to apply for and if awarded, accept the office for victims of crime, OVC, FY26 Services for Victims of Crimes grant from the U.S.
1:20:57Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs to find one full-time victim services specialist, emergency assistance to crime victims and training for a three-year contract beginning on October 1, 2026 through September 30, 2029 for an award amount up to 500,000.
1:21:21Council, we do have our motion properly seconded on this resolution.
1:21:24Are there any questions or comments?
1:21:31Resolution is adopted.
1:21:33We are now to purchases.
1:21:35We're happy to welcome Weston to the podium.
1:21:40Good afternoon, Council.
1:21:41We have six purchases recommended for approval today.
1:21:45Uh the first is with Public Works.
1:21:46It is an agreement for composting services at the recycle and refuse centers.
1:21:51This will be a four-year agreement with an annual amount limit not to exceed $50,000.
1:21:55The award will go to New Terra Compost.
1:21:58That's the best bid.
1:21:59Item number two is with wastewater.
1:22:01This is year four renewal with solution works is requesting a 5.1% increase due to inflationary cost.
1:22:08The new estimated annual spend will be $370,000.
1:22:12Item number three is with wastewater.
1:22:14They're requesting an increase of $3,150 for PUR 160438.
1:22:21The purchase order was originally awarded to Ecotech and approved by council on January 6, 2026, and the amount of 757,900 for an odor control fan.
1:22:32This increase is necessary to cover the freight charges for the fan, bringing the new total to $83,050.
1:22:39Item number four is with human resources.
1:22:41This is a new agreement for employee assistance program and work life services.
1:22:45This will be a four-year agreement with an annual amount limit of $55,000.
1:22:49The award will go to ComSyc Employee Assistance as the best proposal.
1:22:54Item number five is with human resources.
1:22:56This is a year two renewal.
1:22:57Blue Cross Blue Shield of Tennessee is requesting a price increase of 2.7% for the stop loss insurance due to annual insurance premium increases.
1:23:06The new annual amount will be $910,756.
1:23:10And item number six is from the mayor's office.
1:23:13This is a one-time purchase to cover current and future invoices for consulting services for the mayor's office.
1:23:19This purchase from PFM Group Consulting will be in the amount of $100,000.
1:23:27Council, we do have a motion properly seconded on our purchases for this evening.
1:23:31Are there any questions or comments?
1:23:37And the purchases are approved.
1:23:39And we have one sole source purchase to report this evening.
1:23:43Is for the police department for leadership and organizational development training.
1:23:47Training consists of a series of professional development workshops that are uniquely designed to impart strategic thinking and operational problem solving, building elite and player-led teams, organizational design and leaders planning decision making process.
1:24:01Thank you very much.
1:24:04We'll go around the dais now for committee reports.
1:24:08We'll start with Councilman Henderson.
1:24:11Councilwoman Hill.
1:24:16Councilwoman Noel.
1:24:18I don't have a report, but I do want to um tell you all if you have a chance, go by the Avondale Community Center, which is in the Great District A.
1:24:29Um, they have the doors wrapped, and the kids and the participants are loving it.
1:24:34And it looks really good.
1:24:36It has the city logo on it, and you can actually still see through the glass.
1:24:40So go through it's amazing.
1:24:42The first one in the community centers so far.
1:24:46And also to uh give a shout out to the thumbacts in the Great District A.
1:24:52They are offering off to a cook star, and the kids are having a blast.
1:24:56Um shout out to Miss Kennedy Garrett.
1:25:00She is a student and uh student body president at MTSU, and she is uh alumni of the Avondale Center and the current senior count counselor at the center, and she is doing an amazing job.
1:25:17So thank you to the camps in the Great District A.
1:25:21And please, the door is amazing.
1:25:24Go by and look at it if you have a chance.
1:25:27Thank you for all those positive notes.
1:25:29Councilwoman Burrs.
1:25:32Um, I we will have a planning and zoning committee meeting when we return on July 7th.
1:25:38And we'll have our usual cases.
1:25:40We'll also be um talking about uh we're reviewing, it's been a year since we discussed uh since ADUs were approved, and so we thought it was a good time to have a discussion to see how everything's going.
1:25:53So we'll have that discussion on Jules Semit as well.
1:25:56And I also wanted to make the public aware, and this uh so Carta is doing a connect the corridor town hall meeting on Wednesday, so tomorrow from five to seven at the Chris Ramsey Center, and they're very interested in public public input.
1:26:11They're really trying to expand uh transportation, public transportation and economic development along the Brainerd Road Corridor.
1:26:19So if you live in that area or you use the number four route especially, they would love for you to attend and provide some input.
1:26:27Okay, thank you very much.
1:26:29Vice Chairman Elliott.
1:26:35And we are now to that portion of the meeting where we're happy to recognize members of the public who are here to address counsel.
1:26:41And so if you are here for that purpose, if you would please just line up at the podium down front here and listen carefully while our attorney reads the rules.
1:26:59At the end of each council business meeting, the chair will recognize members of the public who wish to address the council, and here's your rules.
1:27:06Each speaker wishing to address the council can only be recognized at the microphone up front for that purpose, can't have more than three minutes to speak, and you can address the council only upon matters within their legislative and quasi judicial authority and not on matters which are not under their authority or regulated by other governmental bodies or agencies.
1:27:27Do not engage in any vulgar or obscene language, nor use the four to personally attack or personally denigrate others and address the council as a whole and not make comments directed towards individual council members.
1:27:39And lastly, do not engage in disorderly conduct or disrupting a public meeting, which is prohibited by Tennessee law, and someone commits that offense if a person substantially obstructs or interferes with the meeting by physical action or verbal utterance with the intent to prevent or disrupt a lawful meeting or gathering.
1:27:56Having stated those rules, please state your name and your district, please, sir.
1:28:01Hello, my name is Jamarcus Williams.
1:28:03Um honestly I'm not familiar with my district, but I'm in the city of Chattanooga as a resident.
1:28:08Um but I'm here as an employee of Hamilton County 911, but not on behalf of Hamilton County 911.
1:28:14I've been a dispatcher for 16 years.
1:28:16Uh, with the last 10 years being here in Hamilton County, I'm here tonight.
1:28:20Um, in reference to the budget that you guys have already passed.
1:28:23Um, but at this point, since it has passed, I'm just wanting to express something to you and hope that you guys have the ears to hear.
1:28:28Um, when someone does 911 dispatchers are the first first responders, not like firemen and police officers, really calm voice on the other end of the line during someone's worst day.
1:28:39We gather critical information, coordinate police fire and EMS responses, and we often provide life-saving instructions before help ever arrives.
1:28:47But despite the critical role we play in public safety, our dispatchers remain among the lowest paid in our region.
1:28:54For years, dispatchers have shown up for this community personally.
1:28:57When there was an active shooter at the Air Pollution Control Bureau, I spent 13 minutes on the phone with a woman trapped in her office, trying to keep her calm and help officers get to her location.
1:29:07When the Woodmore bus crash happened, my co-workers and I answered call after call from terrified parents, family members, desperately trying to find out what happened to their children.
1:29:17Even last year during a house fire in Hickson, I was on the phone with a man trapped in his house.
1:29:22I heard his final attempts to speak before the line went silent.
1:29:25Those moments stay with us, and we don't get to hang up and we don't get to forget those.
1:29:30But we come back the next day and we do it again because the people of this community needs someone to answer that call.
1:29:36We're the fourth largest community or the fourth largest county in Tennessee, one of the busiest communication centers in the state.
1:29:43We answer almost 580,000 calls each year.
1:29:46More than two-thirds of those calls come from the city of Chattanooga.
1:29:50And for years, our leadership has worked to develop a responsible phase plan to improve dispatcher pay.
1:29:56Every agency represented on our board has agreed to participate in funding that plan with the exception of the city of Chattanooga.
1:30:03I also read in the news the mayor's spokesperson expressing concern about committing future budget dollars without an identified revenue source.
1:30:10And I understand the importance of responsible budgeting as a father of six.
1:30:15My wife and I budget all the time.
1:30:18But budgets are ultimately statements of priorities.
1:30:21The first year contribution being requested from Chattanooga is approximately 139,000.
1:30:27At the same time, the city has found funding for other priorities, including a 3% raise for city employees and a new litter initiative.
1:30:34My question is simple.
1:30:35If public safety is truly a priority, why are the professionals who answer the call before anyone else still waiting for their turn?
1:30:42This is not about choosing dispatchers over police officers or firefighters.
1:30:46We supported their raise because they deserved it.
1:30:48And honestly, they probably deserve more than what they got.
1:30:51We waited for our turn, and it seems like the city of Chattanooga did not want to support that.
1:31:09Hello, uh, I'm Morgan Jatan.
1:31:12Uh I am also a 911 dispatcher.
1:31:14I've been there for 11 years, uh, coming this September.
1:31:18Uh I started this job with no background or knowledge of anything related to the first responder life, aside from my brother Glenn Srugs, who just recently retired a couple years ago.
1:31:28Uh I didn't realize how much goes into each call that we as dispatchers handle each day, and I didn't realize that I would have to talk to someone uh who might not be here a second later.
1:31:40I didn't realize someone would have to hear from me uh teaching them how to deliver their baby in their in their living room.
1:31:50Uh this is people coming in at $19.27 an hour doing this job.
1:31:57It's not for everybody.
1:31:58Uh that amount often turns people away as well because of the stress that we go through.
1:32:05We are truly the first and the first responders, and I think that's unfortunately overlooked most of the time.
1:32:11Uh as far as I've been in dispatch, I don't recall anyone from the city coming down to sit and actually listen to what we do day in and day out.
1:32:19Uh, I think you would be shocked at the amount of work that we do for the city of Chattanooga as well as our other agencies.
1:32:26Um the only question that I have here, uh actually I have two uh for you to think over is we were told that we had that you guys had no funds for us.
1:32:37So is it that you have no funds or that you need to reevaluate how you would re-allocate the funds that you do have?
1:32:44The second question is what is it that you deem more important than supporting the first responders who work so tirelessly to assist those who reside in this city?
1:32:57Hello, I'm Cheyenne Bedell.
1:32:59I'm also with Hamilton County 911.
1:33:02I've been a dispatcher at Hamilton County for 14 years in August.
1:33:07I'm also here in support of a proposed pay raise for our telecommunicators.
1:33:13Every day we answer calls from people that are experiencing the worst moments of their lives.
1:33:19We provide life-saving instructions over the phone while we simultaneously dispatch police fire and EMS.
1:33:25This is a highly skilled profession that requires extensive training before a telecommunicator can ever work independently.
1:33:30There are years that go into this.
1:33:32You don't just stop once you get trained.
1:33:35You have to constantly do continuing education.
1:33:37You train alongside police and fire.
1:33:40It's constant, it never ends.
1:33:42New employees will do classroom instruction certifications and on-job training before they're ever fully released to work as a dispatcher.
1:33:53Hamilton County 911 has answered close to 600,000 calls each year, and it grows.
1:34:01And more than a two-thirds of those calls come from Chattanooga residents or incidents that occur within the city limits of Chattanooga.
1:34:09Between police and fire operations, we dedicate six dispatchers solely to Chattanooga channels.
1:34:14That's between fire and police, and it's consistently among the busiest channels that we dispatch for.
1:34:22We also hand or handle hundreds of calls each day that do not result in dispatched responses.
1:34:28When an experienced telecommunicator leaves, we do not just lose an employee.
1:34:31We lose years of knowledge, training, and experience that cannot quickly be replaced.
1:34:36Recruitment comes more difficult.
1:34:38Over time increases and burnout increases.
1:34:40I have lived through that.
1:34:41I've gone through that several times.
1:35:00However, I would also ask you to consider the cost of not investing in this.
1:35:03What is the cost of losing experienced telecommunicators?
1:35:06What is the cost of the continued vacancies, mandatory overtime, and burnout that we all have faced?
1:35:12Public safety does begin with the person who answers the phone.
1:35:15Competitive pay will help us attract and retain the qualified professionals.
1:35:19Our community community depends on when they call 911.
1:35:23I do respectfully ask for you to support the pay raise for Hamilton County 911.
1:35:28The community, the telecommunicators who serve this community 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.
1:35:40Hello, my name is Brittany Rice.
1:35:42I first wanna thank you all for having us here and listening to us speak.
1:35:49Client agency support is essential for struggling dispatchers because of the demands of the profession, can be emotionally taxing, mentally taxing, and physically taxing.
1:36:02We the dispatchers are often exposed to high stress situations, critical incidents, and heavy workloads that can contribute to burnout fatigue and decreased job performance.
1:36:16By providing support, client agencies can help dispatchers build resilience and maintain their well-being.
1:36:25Strong organizational support not only benefits individual employees, but also enhances overall operational effectiveness, employee retention, and the quality of the service provided to the public.
1:36:50Have personally felt the effects of absent client agency support during a time of mental distress and crisis.
1:36:59During that time, I was not able to work needed overtime to compensate for my medicinal and basic needs, leading me to have to take out unnecessary loans.
1:37:09Client agency support is not a want at this point.
1:37:13It is a need for all of us.
1:37:22Hi, my name is Jacqueline Lewis, and I live in East Ridge.
1:37:27I am here on behalf of my husband, Harold Gunther, who is a 911 telecommunicator.
1:37:33He has been working there full time for the last three and a half years.
1:37:38He often works up to 60 hours a week.
1:37:42I'm just gonna let that set for a second.
1:37:4560 hours a week because there is a critical staffing shortage.
1:37:52He recognizes his job is a service.
1:37:56Telecommunicators are literally the first responders when there is a crisis.
1:38:02Over the phone with a calm and reassuring voice, my husband helps residents and visitors of Hamilton County, often during the most traumatic moments of their lives.
1:38:16These include calls from parents whose children are critically injured, folks hiding during a home invasion, people fleeing domestic abuse and assaults.
1:38:29He has helped women give birth over the phone.
1:38:33He has helped a bystanders deliver life-saving care, such as CPR and Nalexone.
1:38:41Recently, he received a call from someone who is helping not one person, but two who are overdosing.
1:38:59He dispatches and communicates with our police officers.
1:39:03He ensures their safety.
1:39:06He makes sure they have the critical information they need for each call for each pullover, whether they need backup or whether they are MIA.
1:39:17This is an extremely stressful job.
1:39:20And I can see why there is a long-lasting staffing shortage for this essential service.
1:39:27Especially when their request for a nominal pay increase is not supported by the city of Chattanooga and the Chattanooga police.
1:39:43But if this was me, between the stress, the lack of pay, and what I would feel like a lack of respect from the city, I would turn in a resignation letter.
1:39:55I thank you honestly for your time.
1:40:00Um on behalf of my husband and my family.
1:40:03Vice Chairman Elliott.
1:40:07Um, thank you all for being here and advocating for yourselves.
1:40:10And I I'm gonna be honest about my ignorance.
1:40:15I'm not as familiar with uh our 911 emergency services.
1:40:20Um, and this may be a question for someone in administration.
1:40:24I always thought you all landed in the county as county employees.
1:40:30So I know we have contributed funding because it is a joint system, but as far as employment, I always thought it landed with the with the county.
1:40:41Can somebody clarify that for me?
1:40:50Andy Green, I didn't introduce myself earlier at Chief Operating Officer.
1:40:53Yes, so it is it is a joint, so it's us and the county and Sickle Mountain and other jurisdictions.
1:40:59Now, did the county request a rate increase for what we pay or something?
1:41:04Um I I hear that they're saying that we're supposed to be they requested some type of difference in pay.
1:41:11Is there what what happened with that?
1:41:13So the 911 board requested a multi-year increase.
1:41:18Okay, and did we decide not to pursue that?
1:41:21We decided that we could not pursue that at this time because it didn't only obligate us but future council and mayoral people to the agreement.
1:41:30So it's not necessarily a disagreement on the cost.
1:41:34It's the term, is that what I'm hearing?
1:41:37Well, we don't have the way to fund it either right now, but we're more than willing to sit down and talk to the Hamilton County 911 board or the 911 uh 911 board um to discuss an increase, but we just couldn't agree to the one they proposed.
1:41:51Okay, do we know if we're the only ones that have not locked in an agreement yet?
1:41:56I believe we are right now.
1:42:00Um we are also the largest contributors.
1:42:05Okay, but they're county employees, correct?
1:42:11I believe so, yes.
1:42:12Okay, I'm gonna say this to you all.
1:42:15Uh I'm not sure the ins and outs.
1:42:18Um, frankly, unless my colleagues have heard something different.
1:42:23As a representative on this body, this is the first time I've heard any things of this sort.
1:42:29Um, and if you've seen, we have voted on our budget tonight.
1:42:33Most of these conversations about allocations happen starting in January.
1:42:40Um, so there's there's not a lot we can do tonight.
1:42:43We just saw you tonight and we just did second reading for the budget.
1:42:48But I will also say, um, as far as there's some conflicts here as far as us having direct impact on your pay, right?
1:43:01If you were city employees, you would have got a 3% cost of living adjustment, just like our civilian and our sworn uh employees.
1:43:09We're not necessarily uh responsible for the HR and um pay procedures for the county.
1:43:18But I am looking forward to seeing where these negotiations may land as far as us being able to contribute, uh, but that is also some of the disconnect from some of that.
1:43:30Um so once again, I do appreciate your advocacy.
1:43:33And what I say this not to ask you to stop, keep fighting for yourselves because if you don't, no one else will.
1:43:39But there's also some jurisdictional and some legal parameters that we're probably gonna have to um highlight as well through all this.
1:43:49That's all I have.
1:43:53Thank you, Chairman Davis.
1:43:54Um, Mandy, this might be a question.
1:43:56Chief, were you about to I was I was gonna add to some knowledge if I could.
1:44:00Chair, I'd like to yield to the chief.
1:44:02So I'm part of the board as being the chief of police for the Chattanooga Police Department, it's an automatic board seat.
1:44:08Um the first time this their proposal, which is a multi-year plan was presented to me was on April the 23rd.
1:44:14Immediately I recognized that this would transcend my oral administrations as well as city council administrations, um, as well as the overall concept of things, the the way it was being presented, I realized immediately that this required further discussion with the CFO from the city of Chattanooga as well as Hamlin County.
1:44:30And I made that recommendation, and I have made it multiple times since.
1:44:33That has never happened.
1:44:35Um that that's what should happen.
1:44:37Um the executive director and their staff should meet with the CFOs of the two largest agencies that that fund the district to determine how we get there, right?
1:44:46How we get the raises implemented.
1:44:47I don't believe there's a question from any organization at all, any municipality, municipality, whether or not raises are warranted.
1:44:55Absolutely, they are.
1:45:00It's a matter of how we get there to be fiducially responsible and to ensure that we can guarantee the raises because the way their budget works is just like ours.
1:45:05It's year to year.
1:45:06But the way this was presented, if you agree to year one, you're agreeing to year one through five.
1:45:12So you're not just agreeing to a 279,000 dollar increase right now.
1:45:17You're agreeing to a, I think it's a 1.8 million dollar increase over the next few years.
1:45:23And you don't make those decisions haphazardly.
1:45:26You need to have you know input and buy-in from especially the two largest municipalities that this is affected.
1:45:32That was my recommendation on April the 23rd.
1:45:34I've recommended it multiple times since.
1:45:36Um it is my belief that the city has communicated to them multiple times that we are willing to come to the table and have those discussions.
1:45:44It's just a matter of getting that schedule and doing that.
1:45:52Uh thank you, uh, Chief.
1:45:54I appreciate that.
1:45:54This might be a qu a logistical question for Mandy and for Weston.
1:45:59Um, and this is just brought to my attention by the city attorney, and this is these are some statutory changes, because all of this is regulated by Tennessee code annotated.
1:46:09So is it not correct that all of the funding for the Hamilton County 911 district operations are from surcharges assessed to everyone's telephone bills?
1:46:22The personnel uh funding, funding for the personnel is provided by the agencies, so the county, the cities within the county, and that's divided based on um call volume and population size.
1:46:35There's a formula that goes into that.
1:46:36So they take their total personnel cost, allocate it based on those two factors, and then give that to that request to my question is about surcharges.
1:46:47It covers the operational cost outside of the personnel.
1:46:50So not all of the funding is it as they're reporting on their website.
1:46:55So what are the statutory, what is the statutory process if we were to increase?
1:47:00Is that something that we do at the state level for for the surcharge?
1:47:05The surcharges, I believe there was an increase voted on, I think, and I don't know if there's someone here that can speak to that.
1:47:12This by the state legislature that approved it.
1:47:15Yeah, and then it got vetoed.
1:47:16The governor vetoed the governor vetoed it, I believe.
1:47:20But so, but none of that funding currently is being used for personnel.
1:47:23No, the personnel funding comes from the municipality.
1:47:27And I have a question for Mandy regarding um pay comparison.
1:47:32Uh, we we did receive, we took just so you know, thank y'all for coming.
1:47:35We this has just come to our attention, uh, which is not uncommon, uh, but we do respect you being here.
1:47:42We want to have more in-depth conversation.
1:47:46We did receive a document from Bruce Gardner that Hamilton County currently, if you are a trainee, your 40,000.
1:47:54Um 40,000, yeah, 40,000, and the highest paid is 54,375 for Shelby County, Murfreesboro, Nashville, Rutherford County, Montgomery County, Williamson County, Sumner County, Knox County, what's CHP?
1:48:12Tennessee Highway Patrol.
1:48:13Tennessee Highway Patrol, Blood County, Tennessee Valley Authority, Wilson County, Washington County, all pay more than uh what we pay.
1:48:24That's just for trainees.
1:48:26Um right now, if you are a telecommunicator, currently you are being paid 42,000, and we are less than Blunt County, Washington, Knox, the Highway Patrol, Sumpner, Rutherford Williamson, Tennessee Valley Police, Montgomery, Metro Nashville at 53,000, Shelby County at 54,000, Williamson County at 54, 768, and highest pay, which I'm surprised, is Murfreesboro at 59,000.
1:49:00I know you've been doing some independent study as well as to where we are on the scale as far as are we low-end, high end, is this accurate or so?
1:49:10We do not use most of those jurisdictions as comparable organizations for the city.
1:49:16So we use Clarksville, Huntsville, Alabama.
1:49:20Um, I'm gonna go through the list here.
1:49:22Columbia, I believe South Carolina, Tallahassee, Florida, those are our comps that we use right now in Knoxville, Tennessee.
1:49:29So those are the comps that we use, those are the comps that we use when we talk about our police and fire, we do not compare ourselves to Nashville or Memphis.
1:49:36If we did, our salaries would be significantly higher.
1:49:39And that's a reality, but we are not compared to them.
1:49:41So when we ran our numbers with our comps, they are approximately negative 5.4% as a trainee of the average of our comps.
1:49:50So you take all those that I just rattled off and take the average salary, they are negative 5.4%.
1:49:55And once they've complete probation, they are above by just shy of 1% of our comps.
1:50:02Are you concluding that based off our pure city comps that we are not that far off of what we by what percentage?
1:50:11Yes, that's what I said.
1:50:12So of our for the trainee position, we are showing that they're approximately negative 5.4%.
1:50:20And for once they complete probation and get to the uh actual dispatcher position, they are actually above by 1% of our averages of our average comparable.
1:50:31Our comparable cities.
1:50:32I just said council.
1:50:33And we've had discussions, council, about what's comparable.
1:50:36Um so anyway, I just wanted to, I'm still trying to wrap my brain around this.
1:50:42And this is last question, and I'm sorry, Chief, I kind of checked out a little bit.
1:50:45Who was who was that we needed to meet with that needed to meet with the CFO?
1:50:50You said the executive.
1:50:51The executive directors, correct, of 911.
1:50:54And that has not happened.
1:50:57I don't executive director here.
1:51:00He's not, I don't believe it.
1:51:02We have we met in the last couple weeks actually.
1:51:04Um we did not meet prior to kind of they came up with this plan and presented it to us.
1:51:09They we were not involved in the discussion as far as I know.
1:51:12I was not involved in kind of the building of the plan and and the discussion around that.
1:51:17So I think that's kind of where some of the disconnect was is they gave this to us in April and then April.
1:51:24Uh it was last of March, first of April, I think when we got the letter from them, and then um there was just some back and forth with them trying to get some of the data behind the numbers, trying to understand how they came up with what they came up with, what comps they were using, things like that.
1:51:38Um, and then we've just been going back and forth a little bit since then on this.
1:51:44I think we just continue, we're committed to kind of continue the discussion.
1:51:47Um, as was mentioned, we can't we can't commit to the full again, it's not the 140,000 dollars.
1:51:54If it was that, it'd be a lot easier.
1:51:55It's the the four or five-year commitment of almost two million dollars that we're we're struggling to find.
1:52:00So we're just we're committed to to work with them and and find a solution to it, and so we'll continue continue to meet with them on our thank you, Western.
1:52:10Councilwoman Noel.
1:52:13I think uh Vice Chair and uh Councilman Clark really hit much my same question.
1:52:20Um so it's my understanding we pay the county for the service, right?
1:52:26So are we not paying our fair share?
1:52:30We are somebody, somebody coming.
1:52:33So we pay the district, the county pays the district, college Dell, Red, they all pay into this this district fund, and the percentage that each municipality pays is based on the call volume from a prior year or prior period and the population based on the latest census.
1:52:50So they take those, figure out what percentage each municipality pays, and then we pay our share based on those calculations.
1:52:57Okay, is there any reason to whomever the spokesperson would be for you all that did y'all reach out to the county for an increase?
1:53:06And if so, what was the reason that they did or did not provide you with the uh increase since you are county employees?
1:53:18Yes, you can come here.
1:53:25So we don't really have spoken person.
1:53:27Um the county, so the city, as it was said, the city, county, and all the other client agencies, their call volume, not just responses, call volume that comes into our center calls that we deal with are broken up and divided amongst each municipality.
1:53:45Um, so they're all given a percentage of how much they have to pay into Hamilton County based on the call volume that was given to or brought into us from those specific areas.
1:53:57So my question is did you all go before county commission and and tell them you need a raise?
1:54:05Did you did you all go before them?
1:54:08So county commission doesn't like they approved, they agreed to the step raises or the raise plan that was provided.
1:54:17So the only ones that we have not been able to get on board is city of Chattanooga, and I do understand that it's a five-year payment plan, but they did it hoping.
1:54:28My agency did it hoping that it would be easier to fund those, since it would basically be we're paying 75% of it the first year and then 50 and then 25, and then last year the client agencies would be 100% paying into it.
1:54:44So I would suggest going before county commission and and tell them to that's what I would suggest as well.
1:54:52Okay, but but thank you for coming.
1:54:54And thank you, Jackie.
1:54:55Um Jack and her husband was my neighbor, they moved um what two years, three years ago?
1:55:02Yeah, yeah, right across the street from me.
1:55:05Wonderful neighbors, yeah.
1:55:11And councilwoman Hill.
1:55:14Um, I think my my mind is going in a similar direction as councilwoman Knowles.
1:55:20Um Weston question for you.
1:55:24First, um, the the way that the equation is created for client agencies, is that part of the state statute?
1:55:34It's there, there's an agreement between um all the municipalities that participate in this uh that sets that equation.
1:55:42Um and then it also provides for tying uh raises for the dispatchers to the county.
1:55:50So whatever the way the agreement currently works is the dispatchers get raises based on what the county got the previous year.
1:55:57So if the county last year got a 1% raise, this year dispatchers get a 1% raise, and then that cost is passed on to the participating municipality.
1:56:05That's interesting.
1:56:07Um percentage question for you one G here because you're the math guy of the 194,000 give or take residents that live in the city of Chattanooga.
1:56:22What percentage of those people live in the Hamilton County, Tennessee?
1:56:28That would be all of them.
1:56:29What so that what would be 100% live in the county?
1:56:34Uh and okay, so also um if if a person if 194,000 people give or take, live in the city of Chattanooga and pay property tax if if 100% of the people who pay property tax in the city of Chattanooga, what percentage would you say also pay property tax in Hamilton County, Tennessee?
1:57:08Um and the funding formula does include the county.
1:57:17What percentage of pay does the county provide?
1:57:22I'd have to go back and look at it.
1:57:23I'm not sure exactly.
1:57:24It's we're a little over 50%, I think, and the county is some other.
1:57:31I'd get it for you.
1:57:32I don't know what off the county's percentage on.
1:57:34That that's just 13%.
1:57:36So thir 13% of the cost is paid by the county.
1:57:42And we currently pay 50% of the cost.
1:57:45I think it's wrong.
1:57:49I'm sorry, I'm getting two numbers.
1:57:51I can get you the exact percentages.
1:57:5766 is what Chief Chambers is telling me.
1:58:00So the county pays 2.7 million, and the city about 6.0.
1:58:06$6.3 million a year.
1:58:10Um if I live in Chattanooga, which I do, and I pay tax in Chattanooga, which I do, um, I also pay Hamilton County tax, which I do.
1:58:26So I'm just thinking through, you know, today we had a brief discussion about the planning commission and identifying jurisdiction and uh MOU and who pays for what, and um that just might be something um that needs to be talked about.
1:58:45Um, every person that drives in Chattanooga drives to drives to the county, and the county folks drive through Chattanooga, and it's we all move around so much.
1:58:57Um it it's difficult.
1:59:02Interesting math problem.
1:59:09Any other questions or comments, council?
1:59:14We have concluded the business before us this evening.
1:59:21And we are adjourned.