August 11th meeting of the governing body to order.

Madam Clerk, would you take the role, please?

Dr.

Rennie.

Present.

Mr.

Royble.

Mr.

Seagrave.

Present.

Mr.

White.

Present.

Dr.

Aldrich.

Present.

Mayor Collins.

I'm here.

Dr.

Emmons.

Mr.

Escapel.

Here.

Mr.

Lyborn.

Mr.

Moody.

Present.

All members are present.

We do have a quorum.

Would you please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance?

Consent agenda.

All agenda items listed with the designation of CA are considered to be routine items by the governing body and will be enacted by one motion.

There will be no separate discussion on these items unless the member of the governing body so requests and support by two other members is received.

Any item removed from the consent agenda will be considered in its normal sequence on the agenda.

All right.

Are there any items a member of this governing body would like removed from the consent agenda?

Yes, sir.

Mr.

Moody.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Through you, I like to pull item 16, please on page three.

Okay.

That's the MoU with uh leads on the large project gap fund.

Is there a second?

Concur.

Okay.

16 is off.

Anybody else?

Hearing none, I would entertain a motion.

So move second.

Second.

We moved by Mr.

Seagrave.

Seconded by Mr.

White.

All those in favor of the consent agenda, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Those opposed.

The consent agenda is approved with item number sixteen removed and will be considered in its normal position on the agenda.

Number six A public hearing to determine whether compliance of annexation conditions required by Wyoming Statute 15-1-402 exist for about 18.62 acres of land located northeast of the intersection of Frontier Mall Drive and Rue Terra Avenue and west of Converse Avenue.

All right, we'll open a public hearing on this item and start with a brief staff report.

Mr.

White.

Mayor and members of council, Counter White Planning and Development Department.

This annexation is for roughly 18.62 acres of land, generally located northeast of the intersection of Frontier Mall Drive and Route Terror Avenue and also west of Converse Avenue.

City has received a petition to annex this land from the owners, which was filed with the city clerk on June 17th, 2025.

This petition was certified by the city clerk as containing the necessary signatures according to state statute on June 20th, 2025.

This public hearing is being held in accordance with Wyoming State Statute 15-1-402A.

Um to fulfilling the requirements in state statute, staff asks the governing body to consider the following.

Uh within the same time period.

And then this annexation is accompanied by an assigned zoning, and I'm available for any questions.

Um of these properties would be.

Anyone in the governing body have question for staff?

Yes, sir.

Mr.

Roebel.

Winco, that's the is that the apartments to the east of that?

Mayor through you, no.

So Winco is a supermarket or like a grocery store.

Okay, thank you.

Dr.

Aldridge.

Uh Mayor Collins through you.

I am curious as to whether you've had any uh responses or uh phone calls from any of the people that receive letters or were aware of the annexation that have any concerns.

Mayor through you, we I received a single phone call from an adjacent property owner, which was I believe it's the hotel over there.

They had no concerns with the annexation, they were just more curious what was going on and if what the proposed development was.

But after I explained it to them, they had no concerns.

Anyone else?

Mr.

Mayor.

Dr.

Rooney.

So the north um 1.8 acres is I thought originally when that was discussed, it was going to be residential, but that's intended for a commercial use as well.

Mayor through you.

So both these parcels were platted and zoned within the county.

Uh they were both zoned community business in the county.

That parcel up to the north is going to be rezoned at a later date with the annexation that will follow to the north of this to residential.

All right.

So that little portion, it won't be commercial, it actually will be added in to residential.

Okay.

So uh as with our practice, it's just we're making it as close to the county zoning as it currently is.

Mayor through you, yes.

So with the assigned zoning, it's just going to be assigned basically the CB zone in the city, and then again with the annexation that'll most likely follow within the next month, roughly, month and or maybe two months.

Um it'll be rezoned to a residential zone.

Thank you, Mayor.

Dr.

Emmons, did you have something, ma'am?

Yes.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Through you.

Did did you say that this was uh owner requested annexation?

Mayor through yes.

So this was owner requested.

Thank you, Mr.

White.

We'll open it up to the public.

Is there anybody else um here today that would like to speak to this uh public hearing uh on the annexation?

Okay, hearing none, how about from the governing body?

All right, the purpose of the public hearing has been met.

We'll move on to the next item, please.

Number seven, ordinance, third reading, annexing to the city of Cheyenne, Wyoming.

Various tracts of land completely surrounded by current city limits situate in eastern Cheyenne, generally located south of Delrange Boulevard, east of Dry Creek, west of Whitney Road, and north of Charles Street.

All right, this is the next iteration of our city council goal to annex county pockets.

I believe this one is 38 properties.

Is there anybody here today that would like to speak to these proposed county pocket annexations?

All right, hearing none, Mr.

Seagrave.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the public services committee is to approve on third and final reading, and I so move.

Second.

Seconded by Mr.

White.

Comments from members of the governing body on the annexations.

Hearing none, madam clerk, would you take the vote?

Mr.

Moody?

No.

Dr.

Rennie?

Yes.

Mr.

Royble?

Yes.

Mr.

Seagrave?

Yes.

Mr.

White?

Yes.

Dr.

Aldridge?

No.

Mayor Collins?

Yes.

Dr.

Emmons?

Yes.

Mr.

Escobel.

Aye.

Mr.

Layborn.

Aye.

All right.

This ordinance or this annexation is approved on third and final reading with Mr.

Moody and Dr.

Aldrich voting no.

Number A ordinance, third reading, amending the official zoning map of the city of Cheyenne, establishing the zoning classifications of AR agricultural residential, MR medium density residential, HR, high density residential, C B community business, and M UR mixed use residential for land annexed to the city of Cheyenne, generally located south of Delrange Boulevard, east of Dry Creek, west of Whitney Road, and north of Charles Street.

All right.

State law says if we annex a piece of property, we need to give it a city zone.

And our goal is to give it the zone or establish a zone that's closest to what's in the county currently.

And that's what's before us now.

Is there anybody here to speak to this establishment of zone?

All right, Mr.

Seagrave.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the public services committee is to approve on third and final reading.

And I so move.

Second.

Seconded by Mr.

White.

Comments from members of the governing body.

Hearing none, Madam Clerk.

Mr.

Layborn.

Aye.

Mr.

Moody?

Aye.

Dr.

Rennie?

Yes.

Mr.

Roybal.

Aye.

Mr.

Seagrave?

Yes.

Mr.

White?

Yes.

Dr.

Aldrich?

Yes.

Mayor Collins.

Dr.

Emmons?

Yes.

Mr.

Escabel.

Aye.

Establishment of the zone districts are approved on third and final reading.

Number nine, ordinance, third reading.

Number nine, ordinance, third reading, amending the official zoning map of the city of Cheyenne, changing the zoning classification for land located south of Interstate 80 and west of Roundtop Road from LI Light Industrial to BP Business Park.

All right, we have an owner-initiated zone change to uh our business park zone that will add some flexibility in developing the property.

Is there anybody here that would like to speak to this zone change before us?

Mr.

Seagrave.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the public services committee is to approve on third and final reading, and I so move.

Second.

Seconded by Dr.

Emmons.

Comments from members of the governing body.

All right, hearing none, Madam Clerk.

Mr.

Escabel.

Aye.

Mr.

Layborn.

Aye.

Mr.

Moody.

Aye.

Dr.

Rennie?

Yes.

Mr.

Royble?

Yes.

Mr.

Seagrave.

Yes.

Mr.

White?

Yes.

Dr.

Aldrich?

Yes.

Mayor Collins.

Yes.

Dr.

Emmons.

Yes.

This zone change is approved on third and final reading.

Number 10, ordinance, third reading, defining the terms and conditions of employment for sworn officers of the Cheyenne Police Department for fiscal year 2025 to 2026.

All right.

This is our annual update of our terms of employment for our police officers.

Is there anybody here in the audience today that would like to speak to this ordinance before us?

Hearing none, Mr.

Labourne.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the Finance Committee is to approve on third and final reading, and I so move.

Second.

That was second by Mr.

Royball.

Comments for members of the governing body.

All right, hearing none, all those in favor.

Oh, we'll do a roll call.

Dr.

Emmons?

Yes.

Mr.

Eskebell.

Aye.

Mr.

Layborn.

Aye.

Mr.

Moody.

Aye.

Dr.

Rinney?

Yes.

Mr.

Royble.

Yes.

Mr.

Seagrave?

Yes.

Mr.

White?

Yes.

Dr.

Aldrich?

Yes.

Mayor Collins.

Yes.

The ordinance is approved on third and final reading.

Number 11, ordinance, third reading to amend the official zoning map of the Cheyenne Unified Development Code for property located east of South Greeley Highway and north of Chalk Bluff Road in Cheyenne, Wyoming, changing the zoning classification from HI Heavy Industrial to AG Agricultural to Business BP Business Park.

All right, we have another owner-initiated zone change to uh establish the zone of business park again to add flexibility in developing the property for the future.

Is there anybody in the audience that would like to speak to this establishment of the zone?

Hearing none, Mr.

Seagrave.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the public services committee is to approve on third and final reading, and I so move.

Second.

Seconded by Mr.

White.

Comments on the zone change from members of the governing body.

Hearing none, Madam Clerk.

Mayor Collins.

Yes.

Dr.

Emmons?

Yes.

Mr.

Escobel?

Aye.

Mr.

Laborne.

Aye.

Mr.

Moody?

Aye.

Dr.

Rinney?

Yes.

Mr.

Royball?

Yes.

Mr.

Seagrave?

Yes.

Mr.

White?

Yes.

Dr.

Aldrich?

Yes.

This zone change is also approved on third and final reading.

Number 12, ordinance, first reading, annexing to the city of Cheyenne, Wyoming, land northeast of the intersection of Frontier Mall Drive and Route Air Avenue and west of Converse Avenue.

We'll refer this item to the Public Services Committee.

Number 13, Ordinance, first reading, amending the official zoning map of the City of Cheyenne, establishing the zoning classification of C B, Community Business for land annexed to the City of Cheyenne, located northeast of the intersection of Frontier Mall Drive and Route Air Avenue and west of Converse Avenue.

This one will also go to the Public Services Committee.

Number 14, Ordinance, first reading, amending the official zoning map of the City of Cheyenne, changing the zoning classification for land location southwest of the intersection of Holland Court and Ridge Road from AG Agricultural to NR2, neighborhood residential, medium density.

All right, we'll send this one to the public services committee.

Number 15, ordinance first reading, creating section 10.24.200, vehicle mufflers, excessive smoke and unreasonable noise, and repealing section 8.56.050, motor vehicle mufflers of the municipal code of the city of Cheyenne, Wyoming to revise and enhance provisions governing vehicle mufflers and noise to establish a graduated penalty structure for reoccurring offenses and to make conforming amendments as specified.

All right, this one will also go to the public services committee.

Number 16 resolution authorizing the City of Cheyenne to enter into an memorandum of understanding with Cheyenne Leeds to establish and administer a large project's gap finance program utilizing voter-approved six penny sales and use tax funds for economic development.

All right.

We uh uh maybe I could just give a little bit of background on this one.

Um we face some community challenges.

We have some buildings uh in our community that are uh um under underdeveloped or uh in bad shape.

Um in 2001, we started the uniform or the URA and the tax increment financing, and that was very successful in helping clean up the hitching post area.

And um and today we have hotels there and the land is now available for development.

Um when it comes to the Heinz in the hole, though, it's a smaller piece of property and much more challenging to uh uh to fix using a TIFF.

And uh so in 2021, we put on the six penny sales tax that was approved by a vast majority of the voters.

Um proposition 12, which was 3.5 million dollars uh that would allow us to uh create a large project completion fund that working with outside agencies like Leeds to fix projects like the Heinz in the Hole.

And uh so the challenge is is how do we take those $3.5 million and bring those dollars to uh to bear in order to bring life back to the Heinz building and fill the hole.

And uh the resolution before us now would have us enter into a public-private partnership with Leeds to create a revolving loan fund that they would help manage that would bring uh those resources to the project like the Heinz in the Hole to see that development happen, and then when the money is repaid repaid back at the end of this project, uh then it would have a fund that we would look for the next project here in Cheyenne that maybe there's another building that we might be able to do the same thing with.

And so that's what's before us now.

And I'm looking forward to any comments from the the audience if anybody wants to speak to this item.

Ma'am, did you want to come forward?

Come come forward and introduce yourself to us, please.

You got to do two things for me.

Now you gotta push that button and turn the microphone on and tell us who you are.

Good evening.

Good evening.

My name is Marin Staub, and I was here a year ago about Steamboat, and I got steamboat, uh, got stonewalled.

I'm still working on it.

The whole that you're talking about, I have an idea for it.

First is reinforcing the walls between the two buildings.

Um watch this old house.

They do that.

Um put stairways down on each building, not in the alley, leave it closed up, and then um, let's see, plant a couple trees down there, and then put some planners for flowers and grass and some benches for benches down there, and um that would be mine, but I would suggest maybe we could use a six penny tax to do that.

Um if you kind of wonder what it would look like.

I went to Reno, Nevada in 1997, and um the river goes through town, and they um made a nice little park down in there until the flood, and I don't know what they did in January, but it is I was that's where my my hotel was.

Um, but it's an idea that we could do, and it would um help with uh tourists instead of looking at this goofy sign about um the Atlas Theater, it would be a nice little park for downtown.

So, ma'am, I just two things I would share with you.

One is that uh this land is privately owned, and those people get to choose what goes in there, not the city council, right?

Um so it's uh it's not it's not uh we can't tell them what to do.

We live in Wyoming and personal property rights are pretty important.

Uh the other thing though is is that there is a uh a development plan that would see uh retail stores and um and uh apartments built in that hole uh to bring people to living downtown and bring activity back to uh to that that part of that building.

Um so that's what the plan going forward that the owner of that building would like to do with it, and we're helping to support them.

However, if that doesn't happen, I love your idea.

My son lives in Reno, and I know exactly what you're talking about.

We walked along the river, it's beautiful there.

Yes, it is especially in January.

Yeah, thank you so much for coming again tonight.

Thank you.

Bye-bye.

Is there anybody else that would like to speak to us about this uh plan?

Dante, I thought we were gonna get you on the consent agenda, but I guess you have to talk to us after all.

Welcome.

Well, good evening.

Turn that microphone on, Dante, and notice yourself.

Good evening, counsel.

So let me introduce myself.

I've met many of you, but just for the group.

So my name is Dante Rushton.

I am the director of real estate and property management for Cheyenne Leeds.

I've had the pleasure of being on the team since February of last year, so we're approaching about a year and a half.

And my role with this resolution and the future MOU is I'll be the dedicated project manager to administering the funds.

And just some background on my experience before I came to Leeds is I have a bachelor's and a master's in city planning from the University of Utah.

I have worked for the cities of Salt Lake City, City of Dallas, the City of Aurora, and the City of Fort Worth, holding different roles, such as a planner viewer, planner, project manager, and then before here I managed a special projects team for the City of Fort Worth.

We had a pretty staunch portfolio projects, about 150 valued over one billion.

And then we also managed pre-development meetings.

We did the most in the state of Texas.

We did about 500 per year.

So we had quite a bit on our plate.

But um I I truly love my job.

So working for Leeds every day is fun.

I manage over 88 million dollars in improvements from water and sewer, pump stations, elevated tanks, trails, you name it.

But this project, we need to be excited about because I know it's been a long time coming, and Leeds is really the group that's gonna get it over the hump.

And with the council's approval, we will enter um an MOU upon approval of this resolution.

And this will just be one milestone in the minute that will come.

It will not be an easy project, but we will get it done.

It's exciting, Dante.

Thanks for being here.

Questions?

Yes, sir.

Dr.

Aldridge.

Mayor Collins through you.

Well, I had the opportunity to meet with uh you and with um Betsy and um some other folks on this particular project in the last couple of weeks.

And um can I just want to make sure that people in the public understand that this is definitely a last dollar in, that public dollars will be the very last piece parts of this project um funding that will come together that you're seeking not only the private funding from the owner of the current properties, but also additional grants and other opportunities for funding, and that this will actually be last dollar in, not first dollar in.

Dante, would you share with them the the direction I gave you guys about that?

Yes, councilwoman, that is correct.

This will be gap financing to provide that last piece to get them over the hump.

And there will be benchmarks that will be included so there will be a means of reporting on the project to make sure they're delivering what they say that they will deliver.

Uh Dr.

Aldrich.

Mayor Collins to you.

I am uh really excited that Leeds is willing to take this on because I think that one of the missing pieces throughout this process, the last five years that I've been on the council has been the accountability piece uh for whoever the owner was of that property.

So I think that this um really puts taxpayer dollars that taxpayers voted on in leads with their oversight, and um I think that that's really the type of accountability that our voters and our residents want to see when we use tax dollars.

So thank you for your work on this.

Thank you.

Not yet.

Okay.

Um thank you, Dante, for being here tonight.

Anyone else in the audience want to speak to this?

All right, hearing none, Mr.

Labourne.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the finance committee is to adopt, and I so move.

Second.

Seconded by Mr.

Moody.

Comments from members of the governing body.

Mr.

Labor.

I think Mr.

Moody is wants to say something.

Did you want to make a comment, sir?

Well, actually, uh, this I do want to make a comment.

And before I recuse myself, I'd like to take a little trip down memory lane to the beginning of the Cheyenne Business Parkway and uh Leeds first project in 1989 or 90, which was partially funded by sixpenny overage from the jail.

So I've observed and uh been gratified by all that Leeds has done since then with uh the various efforts that they brought forward and certainly with the progress and prosperity campaigns that brought that local intensity to the matter.

And this is uh tremendously exciting to me as a downtown property owner and as a representative of Ward One.

That whole has embarrassed me for 20 years, and I think that uh probably the rest of us as well.

But uh obviously uh Mr.

Rustin has the credentials and is prepared to do it, and I certainly agree with uh the concept that that public money goes in last when everything else is arranged.

So I'm gonna in the interest of the appearance of conflict of interest.

I'm going to recuse myself from this uh particular vote because of uh my son's interest in uh renting space in the Heinz building.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Leiborn.

Mr.

Moody.

Uh thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Through you uh thank you for public testimony.

Thank you too for explaining to the public about what this is.

Um, my constituents vote for this in 2021 overwhelmingly, looking back at the uh voting records, and I constantly get asked what's going to happen with the hole, what's gonna happen with the hole?

You know, now we buy my constituents or uh residents of other wards, and also during frontier days, as by tourists, why is that hole there?

So very happy B and I vote supporting us, supporting uh my constituents' wish wishes, and let's hope this project gets started soon.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Anyone else?

Mr.

White.

Yes.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

I appreciate uh my colleague Dr.

Aldridge uh getting the explanation explanation from Dante on uh how this is going to be allocated.

I'm probably speaking for everybody up here, and and Mr.

Moody just mentioned it.

Well, in my nine years on City Council, this is still the the uh project that I get asked most about.

I'm sure that's probably true for all of us, and of all the plans that I've seen over the last nine years, this one seems to have the most promise.

So I'm extremely excited.

Uh as a representative of of Ward 1, we've we've been able to solve the problem of the hitching post.

We've been able to solve the problem of the Z building, and uh this one remains the white whale.

So uh up your workouts at golds, Dante, because uh I'm we've got high expectations and hopes for you.

So thank you, and thank you to leads.

All right, Dr.

Rennie.

Mr.

Mayor.

During the last administration, I was talking to Brendan Ames, who was kind of a the mayor or had hired to help develop businesses.

And Brendan was bemoaning the fact that we didn't have a source of funds um similar to Casper's revolving land fund.

And it was something that he was hoping could be used.

There are just some projects out there, and I know we're we're talking about the Heinz and Hull because it was specifically mentioned in the sixpenny vote at the time, but there's some projects out there that just are not gonna pencil out to be done by by um by the private sector.

If if if the Heinz were a viable project to be done privately, it would have been done years ago, and it's languished for 30 years at least.

Um thank you, Councilman White, 40 years.

I've been corrected.

Um so there are just some projects out there that are not gonna work without help from the public sector.

This is one of them.

So in talking after talking to um Mr.

Ames when he was working for us, said Mark, we really need some kind of fund where we can help get some of these move some of these forward.

And so, Mayor, when you took over, you I think January, right after you were sworn in, we had a goal setting session, and that was one of my goals was to create essentially a fund to do just this.

And we managed, I had enough of us agreed that we and we put it on the six penny, and the money's been sitting there.

Um, and this is really what it was intended to use for.

And the thing that I like best about it, which was my vision, is that essentially this is gonna become a revolving loan fund.

We will recapture the money.

We will either get an equity position or we will recapture the money once the project is done, and then we can move on and use the funds for another project.

And we can keep moving forward.

Um changing Cheyenne, having been in government for a very long time, it never moves as fast as we would like it to move.

Um but it's moving, and this is a step in the right direction.

So this is something that as councilman and my colleague from Ward 1 said a little bit ago.

Um we've had a lot of people look at this, a lot of people talk about the Heinz and the hole.

And you know, cross your fingers and hold your breath.

But this one seems to be the most viable so far.

So thank you, Mr.

Mayor, for allowing me to speak on that.

Anyone else in the governing body?

Well, this is an exciting vote.

I'm excited to take it.

All those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Those opposed.

The resolution is adopted unanimously with Mr.

Layborne declaring a conflict.

Next item is number 21A on page five.

Voucher report.

All right.

Is there anybody in the audience or on the governing body that would like to speak to the vouchers?

Hearing none, next item, please.

Other business.

All right, is there anybody in the audience that came to speak to us this evening under other business?

Okay, how about from the governing body?

Yes, sir.

Dr.

Aldrich.

Mayor Collins through through you.

I would just like to remind everyone that we are having our a monthly council and coffee this Saturday from 9 to 11 at Dosbog.

Um hopefully folks will be able to stop by and fit it in between the downtown development foundation's uh miniature golf tournament that's happening through the downtown area on Saturday and the miniature golf tournament that's happening at the Botanic Gardens on Sunday.

Mr.

White.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

I just wanted to remind everybody that this Friday is the last Fridays on the plaza for the year, and the band, and I don't know, Jason, how you guys got this band, but the wallflowers will be the headliner.

And I think it's the biggest band that the uh Fridays on the Plaza series has gotten in its history.

And just to let you know how big this is, and and this is free.

Um the wallflowers are playing in Red Rocks the night before, which is not free.

Um, so I'm excited.

It's also our wedding anniversary.

So uh my wife and I get in hopefully she can hopefully she can stop working for 10 minutes and and listen to a couple songs.

But we get we uh get to be serenaded by the wallflowers on our wedding anniversary, so that's pretty cool.

You're a cheap date, sir.

Yes, Dr.

Emmons.

Mr.

Mayor through you, in addition to that, they are also playing in Casper and they are charging.

So and I also wanted to just mention that all three ward three um city council people will be playing in the golf tournament on Sunday for the botanic garden.

Are you dunken?

Ward two, I'm sorry.

All three for ward two.

No, I did not.

All three from ward two will be represented in the golf tournament for the botanic garden.

We taking money on that.

I got one.

Mr.

Moody.

Uh thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Through you again, please come to Council of Coffee on Saturday uh 9 to 11, and then on Sunday, I will be at the Quebec Silo Missile site there.

I was invited to be in the audience there to make it a national historic site.

So very exciting.

State Park now will be a national historic site.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Mr.

Segabe, did you have something?

Mr.

Oran.

Mr.

Ebel.

Hi, Scott Royal.

One.

So just so you know, Jeff and I uh manned the booth last year for Jeff and I and Pete manned the booth last year for the uh the golf tournament.

So we put some skin in it too.

Um I was in Safeway today, and as I was getting ready to leave, I had someone call call out to me, safe way down off of uh South Greenley.

And it was Kevin Telander.

Kevin yelled at me and he comes over and I said I stop and I ask he goes, dude, he says, can you do something about those motorcycles?

He says, I live off Dell Range.

And he says they're killing me.

I said, by an odd coincidence, we got something coming up tonight.

So we made at least one constituent happy today.

Good news.

Mr.

Seagrave.

Mr.

Mayor, just one final thing.

Um last Saturday was the first farmers market, one of my favorite events of the year.

I just I just love it when the farmers market's here.

So uh and it was crowded.

So something else to do on Saturday.

Thank you.

And that's it.

Um Frontier Days, right?

It's it's on the west side this year because of the construction of the Indian village.

So it's over by the the uh yeah, over by the exhibition hall.

Reminds me, I need to get there.

Thank you.

Ms.

Leber, did you have something, sir?

Yes, I do.

Yes, I do.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

I'd like to remind everyone that we are now a few days away from one year until the primary election of 2026.

And it's my understanding that that election will probably be the one that the six penny ballot questions are on.

And so I would really uh urge everyone to think about how difficult this one's gonna be.

We're facing a really unusual, way different than any of the other uh six pennies that I can recall.

And then, of course, my understanding also is that the fifth penny will follow uh there in November with the general.

So as we go through these processes, I hope we remember that there is a unfortunate but quite virulent anti-tax sentiment out there, and I'm not sure that the techniques that we've used in the past are going to really be able to tell the story of all that that one penny tax has done and how it has kept those rural communities alive and done so many things for us.

But I'm also concerned about the fact that we're gonna be facing really difficult choices here on the council, and we don't know what's gonna be happening yet with the uh finance session of the legislature.

Um stormy times ahead, so I think it's very important that we uh make sure that we are getting our message out and doing all that we can to let people know all the departments and all the people that rely on our ability to bring forward good projects as uh really happened here with the Heinz and the Hole, obviously, but I think we can't be complacent.

I think we have to be really, really um careful that those negative voices don't drown out our very important message here.

So thank you.

Anyone else?

All right, with that we're adjourned.

Thank you all so very much.