Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.

I would like to call the October 27th meeting of the governing body to order.

Madam Clerk, would you take the role?

Dr.

Aldridge.

Present.

Mayor Collins.

Present.

Dr.

Emmons.

Present.

Mr.

Escabel.

Here.

Mr.

Layborn.

Here.

Mr.

Moody.

Present.

Dr.

Rennie.

Present.

Mr.

Seagrave.

Present.

Mr.

White.

Present.

All members are present.

We do have a quorum.

Would you join me in the Pledge of Allegiance?

I pledge allegiance.

And to the Republic for which it stands.

One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

Consent agenda.

All agenda items listed with the designation of CA are considered to be routine items by the governing body and will be enacted by one motion.

There will be no separate discussion on these items unless a member of the governing body still requests and support by two other members is received.

Any item removed from the consent agenda will be considered in its normal sequence on the agenda.

All right, are there any items a member of the governing body would like to remove from the consent agenda?

Yes, sir.

Dr.

Aldrich.

Number 11, please.

Concur number 11 has been removed.

Any others?

Mr.

Mayor.

Mr.

Labour.

Number 14A.

Concur.

Concur.

Okay.

And number 15A.

Concur.

Concur.

Anybody else?

Hearing none, I would entertain a motion.

So moved.

Executed by Mr.

White.

All those in favor of the two items left, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Those opposed.

The consent agenda is approved with items 11, 14A, and 15A removed.

They'll be considered in their normal sequence on the agenda.

Six A public hearing for a bar and girl liquor license application.

Filed with the city clerk's office for Red Bones LLC, doing business as Hambones Pizza, 415 West 17th Street, suites 170 and 180.

All right, well, we'll open a public hearing.

Is there anybody from the applicant here tonight?

Did you want to speak?

You don't have to.

All right.

Anybody else here that wants to speak to this uh request for a bar and grill liquor license?

About from the governing body.

I do have a question.

Dr.

Rennie.

I was hoping the app would tell us.

I assume we currently have a restaurant license.

And I was hoping they could tell us how the operation of their business would change if they had a bar and zero license as opposed to how it's currently operating with the rest.

If you guys could come forward and just answer that question for us, please.

So that people have a place to come in and sit down and watch games and eat pizza.

Sir, we have a bar as part of that.

Yeah, there will be a there will be a bar in there as well, just so that I because otherwise I would without the other license, I would have to serve behind, and it's kind of an open space.

So I'm gonna put a bar in as well.

Dr.

Rennie.

Anybody else want to talk to the applicant?

Thanks for being here.

Appreciate it.

Thank you.

Anybody else in the governing body?

Hearing none, the purpose of the public hearing has been met, and we'll assign this item to the finance committee.

Number seven, ordinance, third reading, amending section 2.2.8, assigned zoning of the Cheyenne Unified Development Code to conform with the comprehensive revision of Laramie County Zoning Regulations.

All right, currently we assign a zone district to newly annexed properties that's closest to the current county zone.

But recently the county changed their zone districts and ours no longer match one to one.

So this ordinance outlines our new procedures to assign a zone change to newly annexed properties.

Is there anybody that would like to speak to that?

Please come forward.

Hearing none, Mr.

Seagra.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the public services committee is to approve on third and final reading, and I so move.

Second.

It's been seconded by Mr.

White.

Comments from members of the governing body.

Madam Clerk, would you take the vote?

Mr.

White.

Yes.

Dr.

Aldrich.

Yes.

Mayor Collins.

Yes.

Dr.

Emmons?

Yes.

Mr.

Escobel.

Aye.

Mr.

Layborn.

Aye.

Mr.

Moody.

Aye.

Dr.

Rennie?

Yes.

Mr.

Seagrave.

Yes.

This ordinance is approved on third and final reading.

Number eight, ordinance, third reading, amending section 8.60.050, weeds as a nuisance of the municipal code of the city of Cheyenne, Wyoming to revise and clarify provisions and specify conditions under which vegetation does not constitute a nuisance.

This ordinance helps us with a recognition that uh our current vegetation rules might not be our best practices.

Is there anybody here that would like to speak to uh this ordinance on third reading?

Hearing none, Mr.

Seagrave.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the public services committee is to approve on third and final reading.

Can I assume it?

Second.

Seconded by Dr.

Emmons.

Comments from the members of the governing body.

Madam Clerk, would you take the vote?

Mr.

Seagrave?

Yes.

Mr.

White?

Yes.

Dr.

Aldrich?

Yes.

Mayor Collins.

Yes.

Dr.

Emmons?

Yes.

Mr.

Escobel?

Aye.

Mr.

Labourne?

Yes.

Mr.

Moody?

Aye.

Dr.

Rennie?

Yes.

This ordinance is also approved on third and final reading.

Number nine, ordinance, third reading, amending the official zoning map of the city of Cheyenne, changing the zoning classification from P public and MUB mixed use business emphasis to CBD Central Business District for land located between O'Neill Avenue and Carrie Avenue, north of West 19th Street and south of West 22nd Street.

All right.

This is an effort by the city to uh rezone the municipal complex and some adjacent properties to better fit our current and future uses.

Is there anybody here that would like to speak to this zone change?

All right, hearing none, Mr.

Seagrave.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the public services committee is to approve on third and final reading, and I so move.

Second.

Seconded by Mr.

White.

Comments on this ordinance by the governing body.

Hearing none, Madam Clerk.

Mr.

Seagrave.

Yes.

Mr.

White?

Yes.

Dr.

Aldrich?

Yes.

Mayor Collins.

Yes.

Dr.

Emmons?

Yes.

Mr.

Escobel.

Aye.

Mr.

Labourne?

Aye.

Mr.

Moody.

Aye.

Dr.

Rennie.

Yes.

The ordinance is approved on third and final reading.

Number 10.

Ordinance, second reading, amending sections 1.4.3, 1.4.4, 5.1.4, 5.7.10, and 5.8.2 of the unified development code to define recreational vehicle parks and campgrounds, designate zone districts for their operation, create specific use standards for recreational vehicle parks, campgrounds, and revise manufactured home and park regulations as necessary.

All right, before stay, we have a UDC amendment to regulate RV parks and campgrounds.

Did anybody come here today to speak to this?

If you do, please come forward.

Hearing none.

Mr.

Seagrave.

Mr.

Mayor Mayor, the motion to approve on second reading failed at the public services committee.

Therefore, there is no recommendation.

However, for the sake of discussion, a move to the leave on the second reading.

Second.

Seconded by Dr.

Emmons.

Comments from members of the governing body.

Dr.

Emmons.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Um, I wanted to first of all thank Mr.

Bloom for his help with this um ordinance.

Um, as the director of the Cheyenne Laramie County Health Department, I went through and and with a fine-tooth comb and looked at this document compared to the um requirements for the health department.

And after visiting with Mr.

Bloom, I think we got everything lined up the way it should be.

And I feel very confident with the way these rules are written now, or this ordinance is written now.

Um, that it will do uh it'll meet the purpose that we were striving to meet.

So thank you.

Anyone else?

Mr.

White.

Mr.

Mayor through you uh question for Mr.

Bloom.

Um Mr.

Bloom in the first paragraph, it says the substitute is based on discussion that occurred at the November 20th, 2025 committee meeting, and then at and a meeting on November 22nd, 2025.

I'm assuming that's just a typo.

I'm guessing that was October.

That's what I thought.

Mayor, members of council, Charles Bloom planning and development director.

That is correct.

That is a is a typo's optimistic with a year-ending zoom.

Thank you.

I was a little concerned because I saw the month and I hadn't gotten my turkey yet.

So understood.

Dr.

Aldrich.

Uh Mayor Collins through I was just curious about um the item that is on page two of three that says each recreational vehicle space job water sewer and 30 amp and 50 amp electrical service available for connection at the individual recreational vehicle sites.

Um I know we had talked about electricity so that people would not be running generators.

Um is it necessary to have both the 30 amp and the 50 amp?

Or is that just a precaution?

Mayor through through you to Dr.

Aldrich.

Um, what is standard of most of all of the RV parks that we have nowadays is those two connections.

Your 30-amp connection is for your smaller trailers and smaller RVs.

Your larger ones that do show up on site, they do require a 50 amp.

So that 30 and 50 is standard.

Whenever you go to those sites, if you flip open the box, you'll see both of those.

Thank you, sir.

Anyone else?

And I guess we will look at this uh amendment uh during the next committee meeting, but you wanted to give the committee an opportunity to read it before uh the committee happened.

Yep.

I have a question.

Dr.

Mr.

Yes.

So I guess I listened to the committee this afternoon.

And one of your comments, Director Bloom, was that the planning commission would remove the requirement for one-acre minimum site.

And yet when I'm looking at um page 28 of 31 of our materials would refers to table 5-6, which I assume is from our UDC.

It says the minimum total area would be five acres.

So are we I assume you're talking two different things, but can you clarify that on Mr.

Bloom?

Mayor, through you too, Dr.

Rennie.

Um, that's a great point.

This ordinance is looking at multiple sections of code.

The code that is referencing the five-acre minimum, that is specifically for manufactured home parks.

So the recreational vehicle parks and campgrounds, those do not have a minimum.

The planning commission's desire was to essentially let the market drive those and the development standards because they will construct one that will be uh profitable.

Thank you, Mr.

Anybody else?

I have one more quick.

Dr.

Aldrich.

I'm sorry, Mayor Collins for you.

Um the data plate that's to be affixed to each house placed in a park or a portion of a park developed after the adoption of this code.

Is there anywhere?

I don't remember seeing this in the original document that shared with us before the committee meeting.

Is there anywhere that it tells what data has to be specifically on that data plate?

Mr.

Bloom.

Mayor, through you to Dr.

Aldrich.

Um, that data plate requirement is one that was in the previous uh manufactured home park code, and we just carried it over.

That is a data plate that is provided by HUD that is a fixed at the time of manufactured, and that has the year, the zero number or the VIN, whatever the applicable number is, and that's what's on that plate.

Great, thank you.

Other questions for staff?

All right, hearing done.

Any other comments?

All right, we're on uh second reading.

All those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Those opposed, no.

The ordinance is approved on second reading with Dr.

Rainey and Mr.

Labourne uh voting no.

Next items number 11 resolution approving the Bell Building Urban Renewal Project and the Bell Building Urban Renewal Plan pursuant to Wyoming statute 15-9-10.

All right, we have a developer's request to approve a plan and project to uh be able to access URA tools.

Is there anybody here in the audience that would like to speak to this uh resolution before us?

Mr.

Dam, welcome.

Thank you, Amy Serdam, one of the owners of the Bell Building.

I just like to give a little bit of overview about the project so far and bring us all up to speed.

The building was built in 1913 as originally as a Buick car dealership.

There was an elevator system in the building, even back there, taking the cars up to the second and third floors.

After that, it was a parking garage for the Plains Hotel.

And then in the 1950s was turned into office space, at which time the roof was removed and elevated, and a fourth floor was added to the building.

It became vacant in around the 1980s, and it's been vacant since then.

The previous owner did work with the city on some brownsfield grant funding to mothball the building and put a new roof on the building.

So that work was done prior to our ownership.

Last year to remove the overt blight on the block and help our neighbors.

We invested $400,000 of our own funds along with $50,000 of the DDA funds and $50,000 of the joint powers board funds to re-renovate the facade and put new windows on the building and make it secure.

Prior to that, there had been water intrusion, pigeon intrusion, and vandalism.

So we wanted the building to be secure to preserve the structure as much as possible as we move to the next phase of development.

Also at that time, we applied for historic tax credits and were tentatively awarded those, which means our five-year stopwatch has begun.

And now we're down to four years remaining to complete the project in its entirety to capitalize on the historic tax credits.

It's a very expensive project and it's nowhere near done right now as it sits.

It's a vacant building without any infrastructure whatsoever in it.

It's simply three floors, one of which, the fourth floor, is very unstable and will need to be removed prior to any development.

The roof will be able to remain in its current position.

So our vision for the building is to have a retail space on the first floor, along with utilizing the garage that's there and the already approved entry and exit into that garage.

There are already been a space, a parking space removed on that block for the entry and exit of cars.

And cars will go into there, and there will be 32 additional parking spaces in that building, repurposing that building to its original use.

Those parking spaces can be used by the public for events for overnight stays at the Plain Hotel for people who work downtown, people who eat or shop downtown, for people who live downtown.

They will be full access to anyone who wants to use them.

There, of course, will be a fee for that, as there is with typical parking in a downtown area.

Those fees are yet to be determined.

But there will be 32 spaces.

We definitely see the economic benefit of rehabbing this building by contributing to the property tax base, the sales tax space, um construction workers doing the renovation and creating more spurring more redevelopment in the neighboring buildings as well in the neighborhood.

And also really a boost to the Plains Hotel and perhaps really helping that hotel succeed in its entirety.

So we're really excited to um participate in this redevelopment.

It's a project I've been watching and working on for quite a while, and um really hope that we can gain your support in its entirety for TIFF financing.

My understanding is if you approve the tax increment financing today, that the next step will be to have a third party reviewer analyze the costs and the performance, um, the PLs and our um performa of the building, and then we will come back to you with a development agreement and the costs that we feel should be possibly included in the TIP financing.

And at that point, you'll get to vote on whether um it's just the utilities or the safety features, or if the parking um can be a piece of that or not at that point.

Um there may be enough renovation costs without the parking that we don't need to go into a belabored discussion about the parking anytime, but um it is part of the building, and we'll see if if it's um if that piece can be approved at some point or not, or if that's even a necessary discussion at some point or not.

But I think today's point is just to say do you think that this is um worthy of TIFF dollars?

And if so, we um appreciate your consideration and your time.

And I mean, stamp for any questions.

Thank you, Amy.

Anybody have questions for Dr.

Emmett?

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Um, so two things.

I wanted to fill in a history piece for you.

Um, when I moved to Cheyenne in 1986, the community action of Laramie County's offices was in that building on the second floor.

Perfect.

So thank you.

There it was at bad shape then.

Um my question is is it appropriate for me to ask a question about the parking?

Sure.

Okay.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Um, so I saw that the spaces or it's about $70,000 per space.

How long do you think it's going to take to actually pay that off?

Um, to help.

I was trying to figure out how much it would cost about for a part a month with parking space.

Okay.

Well, um, I do want to point out, and Megan, our architect is on the phone that normally a parking space when you build just any parking is around 60 to 100,000 as well.

So it's in line with the cost of normal parking.

Um, and also it will depend on the demand for the spaces and the use.

So obviously um, if there's more demand for hourly or overnight parking will shift the model to facilitate more of that.

There's a bigger ROI for us with the hourly and the overnight parking than the long-term monthly parking for sure.

Um, but we do want to have a mix of those available.

And I mean, our performance stretches out for 30 years as with any uh or 25 years as with any commercial loan.

So thank you.

Other questions, Mr.

Moody.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

For you um, with the parking, how many uh partners do you uh plan on having if this were to pass?

She testified five to seven.

All Mr.

Mayor.

Yes, sir.

Oh, thank you Mr.

Mayor for you.

Um, do you have an agreement with the Plains Hotel to use this for the parking?

We we don't have an agreement, but we have had conversations with the Plains and other surrounding um retailers who have all expressed interest in utilizing the parking and long-term leasing some of them for their for their use if if that becomes evident or not.

It we just felt it was a little premature to enter into negotiations without knowing if we would be able to complete the uh project financially.

Mr.

Moody Paul, thank you, Mr.

Good.

Anyone else?

Yes, sir.

Dr.

Aldridge.

Um, thank you for your presentation and for always for the information.

I was wondering um if we know what the current property tax is on that property and what um if you may if you happen to know what the anticipated property tax would be um when it's um completely renovated, because I think that's really in my mind, that's really what the public is probably interested in is how much um revenue are we looking at going that eventually because I know that a tip lasts usually 25 years, so we'll be locked into that tax rate or that tax base for 25 years.

But then what could we anticipate?

Um it's hard to predict 25 years out, but if you kind of know any any of those numbers, that would be really helpful.

Mr.

Dem, what's your crystal ball tell you?

Um, I believe I included that in our original report that um over the 25 years, it would be the tax increment would be around 930,000 is what we recalculated recently.

Um so 930,000.

I mean, I I have every reason to believe that the building will be worth the funds put into a plus the appreciation after that time.

So, Mr.

Dam, do you know the current uh property taxes in general to what is it?

What is it?

$3,000 and 10 cents for 2025.

Thank you.

Did you get that, Dr.

Aldrich?

I didn't.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Anyone else?

Thank you, ma'am.

Thank you.

It's good to see you.

Anyone else came today to speak to this?

Ms.

Volk, welcome.

Uh Wendy Volk, 4000 Bent Avenue.

I'm also on the downtown development authority board.

And I just want to say that we were very proud of the SERDAMS and what they have done with the Bell Building.

Um, I applaud as a real estate agent.

Um, the efforts she and her husband and the vision they have for this building and what they've done for our downtown has been tremendous.

So I would like to just um encourage your support for this project.

We need to take it to the next level.

And so we're really pleased that the funds that were granted through the downtown development authority for the windows is something I was very pleased to go and tour the building, but I realize it's still a big lift.

So I welcome your support.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thanks for being here.

Anyone else?

All right, we'll go to uh Mr.

Seagrave, Mr.

Mayor.

Um recommendation of the committee is to adopt this only second seconded by Mr.

White comments from members of the governing body.

Dr.

Emmons.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

So I just need to be clear on um uh uh issue with the TIP.

So if we grant this and something happens and the project doesn't go through, we're not out any money.

Is that correct?

Mr.

Brody shaking his head, no, we're we are not.

Okay, just want to be very clear on that.

Thank you.

Anyone else?

Dr.

Aldridge.

Um I um have historically been opposed to uh TIFFs just because I really um concerned that we have a significant number right now.

I believe we're at six or seven TIFFs and it locks us into a tax rate for um a 25 year up to a 25 year period.

Um so I have not um historically uh been in support of those.

However, I think that um this TIFF generating 930,000 um and looking at the um proposed the what I think we would all know uh assume would be more than that um at the end of the day if this project is uh comes to completion and um would be able to uh definitely support that 930,000.

Um I will be voting yes for this this evening um and look forward to that documentation that will be uh provided um after the review is done um to see if this is a uh viable project.

Ms.

Late Mor did I see you answered?

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

As uh was pointed out by one of my colleagues here.

Uh that building is in pretty bad shape many, many decades ago.

It was uh really needed the rehabilitation that occurred, and I certainly believe that that was well within the intent and the reasoning of the EPA brownfield grant without that effort.

Uh this building wouldn't have a choice chance.

And so when the previous owner did that, it opened up the possibilities.

And I want to speak to the question of more parking downtown, private, public, or whatever is a good thing.

It's something that we that we really need, and I think we've seen uh enough lately about downtown parking to understand the downtown that we desire that is a vibrant shopping area and entertainment area, and of course, we're well on our way to doing that.

That means more parking, and providing it in the building itself or the units uh that people are going to be living in is obviously uh really what we're looking for.

So I understand that there are as always uh projects like this, their questions and I think that that'll be uh made clear to us with the evaluation that's gonna occur that we're gonna be able to thoroughly understand whatever these uh technicalities are.

So I uh I speak very much in favor of this.

It's one of the things that uh other communities have used successfully.

We haven't, I'm not sure all cases are valid, but uh certainly the two cases that I know of are.

So I believe that this is a real addition.

And when we look at those additions, we have to understand the difficulty of an older building.

And this is a very much an older building.

There are a lot of challenges and they have to be overcome.

I'm pleased that we have some people here that are willing to look down the road to the future, believe in our downtown and invest not only in the property but in the parking.

So I certainly speak in favor of this uh resolution.

Thank you.

Any other comments?

Hearing none, we have a resolution before us.

All those in favor, please signal by saying aye.

Aye.

Those opposed.

No.

Mr.

Moody is a no.

The resolution is approved or adopted on next item, please.

Number 12 resolution reappropriating the fiscal year 2026 budget of the city of Cheyenne according to the provisions of Wyoming statutes 16 4-112 and 16-4-113.

Right.

Is there anybody here today to speak to our reappropriation of our budget?

Hearing none, Mr.

Labourne.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the finance committee is to adopt and I so move second.

Seconded by Mr.

Escobille.

Comments on the reappropriation by the governing body.

Mr.

Moody.

Yep.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor, through you.

Um, I know I asked this the finance committee, but on a memorandum on page two, uh, where it says 430 uh 30,000 30,367 uh 676, miscellaneous department 15th Street Rail Car Experience EDA grant match requirement.

Um, what is this for with regards to 15th Street Project Rail Cars?

Mr.

Cobb, are you the man to answer that question?

Thank you, sir.

May I refer you to Councilman Moody?

The answer, sir, is two fold.

It's for I don't think it's on the sorry.

See if I can get in the glasses and those would be good.

Okay.

Can you hear me now, sir?

We can't take it through you two to councilman Moody.

So the answer is twofold, sir.

Um, it's for two purposes for renovation of the rail cars for the EDA grant, one City of Cheyenne car, and three EDA cars.

And the second item is for transportation of those vehicles back to 15th Street.

Thank you.

Follow it, sir.

No, sir.

That's okay.

Other comments.

Uh Mr.

Labourne.

Mr.

Mayor, can I have a uh review of those rollovers of the police overtime that are included in this?

Would that be best for our treasurer?

Mr.

Mayor, through you a review.

So you want me to let you know how much we're rolling over?

Is that what you're asking for, Councilman Labourne?

Yeah, yes.

All righty.

Uh so we will be rolling over 94,027 for critical traffic area overtime, 86,947 for noise and speed enforcement overtime.

And those are fiscal year 25 unspent dollars.

Well, Mr.

Mayor, uh, my comment would be let's spend them.

I think that uh we've we've begun a process here that uh has brought results, but we got a lot more to go before um our streets are safer to the degree that uh we seek.

So um glad to have appropriated that, but I think that uh um let's let's spend that and see if we need to come up with some more because uh this is such an important area.

Thank you.

Mr.

Laborne, I talked to the chiefs today, and uh um you know, during the summertime it's a little difficult sometimes to find officers, but this time of year uh there's a lot more officers looking for overtime shifts, and we'll be able to give after that a lot more.

So you'll be pleased.

Dr.

Aldrich, sounds good.

Mayor Collins, uh first and foremost, I want to uh thank our treasurer for always being responsive.

Um I don't know how deeply our my colleagues dig into this list, but I dig in fairly deeply.

I am I know that this is a necessary evil, if you will, to reappropriate these funds, but I am continually frustrated by uh the number of parking tickets that we have that people fail to pay, the um number and the um individuals who we do business with on a regular basis is the city of Cheyenne who fail to pay for um bills that they owe, whether it be um trash pickup, whether it be child care bills.

Uh one of the items we had an employee that was overpaid $786, I believe it was, and rather and we weren't able to collect that, so now it's going to collection.

I just I think that um we quite honestly, it's by the time it gets ready to go to collection.

Um it's been on it, it's been on our books for quite a while.

Um, so while I know that this is a necessary evil, and I know we've worked really hard, and Robin's office has worked hard to try and find a collection agency who will actually collect something, which would be a remarkable feat.

Um it's extremely frustrating.

So I this evening I will be voting yes, but I always do this with reluctance because I think that this is something, quite honestly, that we have not gotten a good handle on.

And we, you know, I happen to have one of my former students on this list with $900 in parking tickets.

Um, there's someone on the list with $1,300 in parking tickets.

And we have a scoff law.

I don't know what the heck we're doing that we're not enforcing that on these types of individuals.

So I would hope that we would um pursue those with diligence and um aggressively.

Anyone else?

We have a motion and a second to do a reappropriation of our budget.

All those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Those opposed.

The resolution is adopted.

Number 13 resolution authorizing the mayor to execute a memorandum of understanding with participating counties, cities, and towns regarding the allocation of impact assistance funds associated with the Chugwater Energy Project application before the industrial siding council.

All right, before us, we have uh a resolution to uh allow the city to participate in some of the uh tax funding.

We're not here today to talk about the project itself.

That's going to be decided by folks that live north of us and uh uh the industrial siding council, but we are here to talk about the MOU.

So if anybody wants to talk about the MOU, uh please come forward.

Ma'am Lefuted identify yourself for the record.

And did you understand what I just said?

I did.

Thank you, ma'am.

Look, welcome to be here.

Thank you.

My name is Jill Kaufman, and I am from Platt County, and a group of us have gotten together and did a lot of research on this.

And I guess I know things are probably already decided along the way, but I just still just wanted to share with you that there are other things that this project comp this company's project are are being misleading on.

Um, one of the things is I encourage you to not participate in the MOU.

And the reasoning is because we're just digging our pockets, digging into our pockets with people's money.

This project is 80% subsidized from our um from our money.

It's all subsidies from the government.

We need to be very clear on that.

Are we going to continue to go down this road of always asking for money, money, money from the government, or are we going to be the answer to problems of the people of these counties?

There's three counties that are involved, and the three of us of the counties have been working together.

We've gone in front of our commissioners and we've gone in front of our planning and zoning on to on, and it's all been on deaf ears.

It's basically sharing with us that it's already a done deal.

Um, the thing that I wanted to encourage you is please think about being the stop gap to say no, we're not going to accept any more subsidies.

We're not going to accept any uh monies from this company.

And the reasoning being, again, is we already know that this is pseudoscience.

Your president of United States is out there trying to very strongly trying to get this stuff cleaned up.

Now, again, I ask that you check again another look at this.

We just uh had FOIA some information from the Department of Environmental Quality and what it is called the Chugwater Energy Project Notice of Deficiency Industrial Siding Council.

And I encourage you to to FOIA this because some of the things that you're being told are very much incorrect.

And uh one example is they told us originally it was 107 project uh wind uh turbine generators, and now in this deficiency, they're saying it's 150.

So a lot of these things are just way off and not and not um quite what they're telling.

I can I would like to hold you back.

Okay, I understand there might be some challenges with that.

What we're talking about here is should the city of Cheyenne uh ask for some impact fees for the overflow of employees that will come into our community.

The decision that you're asking for is only going to be made by the people up north.

We have no say in that.

Yeah, I understand that I was asking you to reconsider accepting the MOU.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Ms.

Volk.

Thank you.

Um, Mayor and members council Wendy Volk 4000 Bent Avenue.

Um, I just recently have been involved with another wind project.

And so I just wanted to tell you um the document that is the what Chugwater is looking at is almost 2500 pages.

And I went through 25 almost all 2500 pages this weekend.

I pulled out some pages that might be helpful for you all.

May I share that, Mr.

Mayor.

It does.

Thank you.

I want to tell you that you know, should the industrial siting um approve the permit um in Cheyenne in Laramie County is eligible.

I am supportive of your the MOU for receiving funds.

Our community will be impacted uh by a project of this scale.

And I wanted to just share this so that if uh fellow vote you know, members of our community ask you why you voted for the memorandum of understanding.

The Chugwater Energy Project is being described as a billion dollar opportunity for Wyoming, but behind the numbers are very real questions about how this project will affect our community land and way of life.

Uh, the last page breaks down what the number of employees that would be working on this.

So starting next year, if I read the report correctly, um starting in May of 2026, we will see an increase of about 100 workers coming into the Chugwater area.

They're going to need places to uh live and be able to attend their jobs, and then that's going to quickly increase to about 450 employees.

So, yes, Cheyenne will be impacted, and Laramie County will be impacted.

Mostly, I mean, we just need to kind of look at it as not which county and which community, it's Southeast Wyoming.

Um, if you need a pair of socks in Chugwater, you may or may not be able to get the size of black socks.

You may have to go to Wheatland, you may most likely come to get them in Cheyenne along with groceries and other things.

So I do think that of the 450 outside workers that are going to be moving through Southeast Wyoming, it's going to be a major influx for our town and the surrounding communities.

Um, I think it's going to put tremendous pressure on housing and health care schools and already stretched law enforcement and volunteers and fire services.

I think we just need to be mindful.

The cumulative effect of this project and the other 22 proposed industrial projects coming at Wyoming is significant.

So whether you vote for this MOU or against it, I'm in favor.

If the project is permitted and approved, absolutely, Cheyenne and Laramie County will be impacted.

Plaque County will be tremendously impacted.

If I were working on the job site and I were pregnant and had an early pregnancy challenge, like I did with our youngest daughter, um, there is not a labor and delivery service in Wheatland at the hospital.

Um we would have to find emergency services to come get a worker that might need to be brought to Cheyenne or air evacuated out.

We need to really make sure we're thinking through these impacts because there will be a ripple effect.

So I am in support.

If this project is approved, the memorandum of understanding that Mr.

Mayor, you would be signing, I would be in favor of because there will be a tremendous ripple effect.

The report, according to the 2500 page siting report, is they say 60% of the workers would be staying in hotels, motels, RV parks, um, Airbnb's short-term rentals.

There'd be a very small percentage during this 20-month project of people that would actually buy a house.

Um, and so there will be a ripple effect.

And I think we just to be we as a community need to be very cognizant of this could be a ripple effect of a much greater magnitude with all the other projects.

It would be a tsunami of impact to Southeast Wyoming.

We just need to be mindful for, and I just really really um encourage you to take the time to really read these projects and stay involved because it's it's a bit overwhelming, but I I think we have a great planning department in our city and our county level.

I think we need to share resources um with uh rest of Southeast Wyoming.

They're gonna need all the help they can get if this project goes through.

Thanks, Wendy, for being here.

Appreciate you.

Anyone else on the MOU?

Mr.

Labourne.

Mr.

Mayor, this item was reviewed under the other items for the agenda of the October 21st, 2025 finance committee meeting.

There are four provisions of Title II of the City Call have been missed.

Mr.

Mayor, the motion uh to adopt died to a lack of a second at the finance committee, therefore there is no recommendation.

However, for the sake of discussion, I move to adopt second second by Mr.

Seagrave.

Comments from members of the governing body.

Yes, sir.

Dr.

Aldrich.

Uh Mayor Collins, through you.

Um, I did have an opportunity to watch the recording of the committee meeting this afternoon when this item was disc where this item was discussed.

And um, I'm just really concerned that 464,827, which was the number that was shared by the chief of staff, Ash, as the amount that we're anticipating would we would be asking for.

Um, that that is not going to be sufficient.

I know that um she mentioned there were over 30 entities that will be receiving this impact money, um, including everything from prairie school to um sheriff's offices and um school districts and police departments.

Um I understand that they will also be impacted, but I'm very concerned that 400 that amount is not going to even reach or touch um the amount that our area is going to be impacted.

I know some of that was put forward for um fire mitigation um resources for um assisting the um fire departments in those communities uh with those tall turbines if there were to be a fire.

Um I but I am hopeful that you might be able to, or someone could explain how we um derive uh arrived at that number so that it is on the public record.

I can try to help you with that.

I spent a little time with our attorneys today.

Um according to the ISC report, uh Chugwater and Wheatland have 407 hotel and RV slots.

Um over the 20-month project.

Uh the report said that there were maybe 13 months where there will not be enough living quarters in that area, and those folks would come to um another place to live.

On average, that would be 128.79 people.

Um the feeling would be that the majority of those would come to Laramie County uh to Cheyenne.

We have uh historically for our industrial siding council projects, uh, used a cost of service.

Robin looks at our budget, figures out exactly what does it cost per person to provide the services that we do, and uh our current cost per service is 30, excuse me, 3,090 per person.

And when they did the math, that came to 431 dollars and uh 431 uh dollars, 431,000, excuse me.

Um, and then there's another 33,000 that was asked for by the police department or with the fire department uh for their response and for some equipment they would want uh to be able to respond to those tall towers for high angle rescue or things like that.

Um so uh I believe that would tell you exactly how they uh uh the calculation was made to get to the number of 464,827.

Thank you.

Ms.

Brody, did I get that right?

Yes, sir.

Okay.

Mr.

Moody, yep.

Uh thank you, Mr.

Mayor, for you.

I just had a couple more questions.

I did ask that uh finance from A, but these are different.

Um staff contact in any of the hotels on Lake Away, like the Hampton, the Fairview or the uh red line there all provide um I-80 with regards to what the capacity is for long-term residency.

Uh John Brody City Attorney, uh, Councilman Moody, uh, through through you, Mayor.

Uh, the answer to your question is no.

Um, what the city did when it um uh attempted to come to a number for unmitigated impacts was use the data that was provided in the that 2500 page application that we've been referring to.

Uh that application um had um averages of vacancy rates.

So we took the average vacancy rates for all the various um places that uh temporary workers would stay and relied on those numbers um when we came up with our with our estimate.

It seemed more consistent if we're gonna base um it it it was more consistent basically to rely entirely on the application itself.

If we're going to rely on some of the data, uh we might as well rely on all of the data, Mr.

Moody.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor, through you, and then just um looking through a document and see it.

This MOU were not giving any of our water or sewer for this project, correct?

Correct.

Thank you.

Ms.

Dr.

Emmett's thank you.

Um I hate when that happens.

To you, Mr.

Okay.

I'm sorry.

Um, so the 400,000, that's just for the city, not for the school districts, not for any of that other any builds of the services.

Is that correct?

Mr.

Brody.

Uh Mr.

Mayor, through you.

Yeah.

So um there's as I think chief staff Ash had mentioned, there's there's about 35 government entities that um hypothetically um can apply for funding.

Um, the city of Cheyenne is just one of those.

This would be just for the city of Cheyenne.

Um, I think it is worth noting too that statutorily there's about a 12 million dollar cap on the amount of money that can be distributed for unmitigated impacts based on the conversations we've had with the attorney representing Platt County.

We are pretty much at that cap already.

Um so I guess trying to um understand everybody's needs and stay with under stay within that cap.

Um they've been able to do.

So Dr.

M.

That's a follow-up.

It would appear to me to be incredibly irresponsible if we don't try to get these resources as we're gonna um we're gonna get costs.

So if we have an opportunity to get um the resources to manage those costs, it would seem irresponsible from our point or our level to not take advantage of that.

That's just a statement more than a question.

We understood.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Who else?

Thank you.

Mr.

Escobel, that's through you.

Uh I supported it at finance and uh any assistance that we can get down here in Cheyenne would be greatly appreciated.

But if this project goes forward, and that's if uh the people of Platte and Goshen County should rather have those workers traveling I-25 down to Cheyenne to stay here rather than having a man camp set up in those counties.

So uh having a city of our size here uh that close to that project would actually help those counties.

Other comments, Mr.

Moody.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor, through you.

I do want to thank everybody that traveled here from uh Platte County to do it.

So I'm gonna continue to be a no vote, um, mainly because I think the money, if it does get approved, hopefully it doesn't, that should go to the people Platt and Goshen County right there.

I actually got to visit the sites and all that.

I honestly think they're gonna be the more impacted, even though we have that 150 mile radius in terms of the industrial uh committee there.

I just think it needs to go to them because they're gonna be impacted.

They need the money more than us.

So I'm looking at from that perspective.

Yes, we might have some vacancy rates of long-term um housing, okay, uh in terms of workers, but again, we have plenty of hotels.

We also have uh other uh recreational uh sites here, especially one off North College.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Anyone else?

Mr.

Leiborn.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

I'm old enough to remember when the Industrial Sighting Commission was created, and how uh big projects would come into the state of Wyoming, and there wasn't any sort of mitigation effort to really help those uh communities that were just exploding.

And so uh I certainly recognize all the effort that goes into such an application.

It is not a uh guess.

It's uh a figure that has some justification.

But uh I also remember when the power plant was built up in Wheatland, and that was uh definitely an impact on us.

Um certainly when you look at the cumulative impact of the uh construction uh going on around here and uh all the challenges that come with it.

I'm sure glad to see it.

I prefer that to the opposite, and the opposite is something that uh is happening in communities around Wyoming.

So I certainly speak in favor of uh this.

I think that it clearly has reasoning behind it, and that reasoning is valid.

And I we can't really have it both ways where we oppose it and yet support it.

I think it's very clearly uh a matter of law to assist our community in dealing with impacts that uh come with uh prosperity, I guess you could say.

Uh, certainly there is a lot of uh money being made here, and I think we ought to be looking at that carefully, and I think we are so I speak in favor of this resolution.

Thank you.

Dr.

Alges, do you have a comment?

I did, please.

Um Mayor Collins, thank you.

Um my experience with impact fees um started when I was teaching out at Rock River High School, and um their community was received impact money, Rock River did from the Arlington wind turbines, and that was what paid for um that community to be able to have a preschool for the children in the community.

And um, I just think that at the end of the day, we're elected by our constituents to be fiscal stewards for the city of Cheyenne, and to have this opportunity to um be a part of one of the 30 plus entities that would receive um impact fees, knowing that we are going to be impacted.

Um, I would argue that quite honestly, and the 2500 page document that my experience in living in Carbon County and in different communities around Wyoming that experience a much bigger boom and bus cycle than Cheyenne does, that most um people who are coming in as temporary workers are not bringing families for the most part.

Um, most of them are coming in individually and go home to visit their families um on extended weekends and vacations.

But with that said, uh, we are going to probably be the most impacted.

And I think that um there will be definitely um a need to answer to voters and our constituents if we walk away from 430 or the 487, 48.

Thank you, thousand dollars that um we're asking for, which I still think uh we will probably will not cover our all of our expenses and our cost um that are associated with this because I think that we will be um impacted more than some of our smaller colleagues and communities in the surrounding area.

Um, but at the end of the day, um our can my constituents at least expect me to make good fiscal decisions for our community and um not to walk away from money that um is available to help offset those expenses.

So for that reason, I'll be a yes vote tonight.

Any other comments?

Mr.

Mayor, Dr.

Rennie.

Mr.

Mayor, it's my understanding.

I read it somewhere in all the documentation is about 12 million dollars set aside by the industrial side council for mitigation of this project.

We're asking for 3.3 percent.

I agree with my colleagues from Ward 3.

Um, because of Cheyenne's size shopping amenities, I think we are going to have a much larger impact than that 3.3 percent.

So um again, I I agree with her.

I don't think the 460,000 is going to be enough to mitigate the impacts on Cheyenne.

And lastly, I we could take a stand and say no, we don't want it.

We'll we'll absorb it, we'll make our citizens pay for it.

But the money's going to be spent if it'll go somewhere else if it doesn't come here.

And as I said, I think we will outside of Chugwater, we will probably see the largest impact of the communities or entities involved.

Any other comments?

All right, hearing none, we have a motion and a second to approve the MOU.

All those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Aye, those opposed.

No, Mr.

Moody is a no.

The resolution is adopted.

Next item is number 14A on page three.

Professional services agreement between the city of Cheyenne and Old Tag for the Del Range Boulevard, traffic signal timing improvements, Yellowstone Road to College Drive project.

All right, is there anybody in the audience that would like to speak to us on the improving the timing on our street lights on Del Range Boulevard?

Hearing none, Mr.

Labourne.

Uh Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the finance committee is to approve an amount not to exceed 162,000 and uh 399, and I so move second.

Consecuted by Mr.

Moody.

Comments from members of the governing body, Mr.

Mayor.

Mayor, I was wondering if we could get some comments from the engineer's office on the necessity of this expenditure.

He would love to talk about that.

Mayor, yes, I would like to talk about that.

That's great.

Through you to Councilman Laborne.

I would say, Mr.

Laborne, this is well overdue.

I I can, in fact, I look back in the records at my office.

I can't find the last time this was done, but it's been over 10 years.

We're going to increase the safety efficiency of the entire system.

And this spans from College Drive all the way to Yellowstone Road.

So it's 15 intersections total.

Also, all the signals need to be retimed.

This is for data collection modeling, and they'll make recommendations to me to what improvements that we need done for the system.

Mr.

Labor.

Thank you.

Mr.

Cobb.

I think this speaks to some of the general things we're talking about tonight.

More traffic, more traffic, more traffic.

And an outdated system.

So this is something that it's a significant amount of money.

I'm sure it's a significant amount of data.

But obviously, if the situation can be improved, it's money well spent.

And certainly something that as a community, we need to be paying attention to these traffic patterns and how they affect us every day.

So I call it off the consent agenda because I think that it's important people understand all the complexity and the differences of our expenditures and why we uh do certain things like this.

So uh I think this will be a worthwhile addition and certainly something that uh it would be great if we could get a significant improvement.

I'm not sure how one measure that traveling down the street as we do, but I know that there's a lot of uh things have been you look back over the years, there's been a lot of change and a lot more traffic.

And so uh this will be a good thing.

Thank you.

Anyone else?

Mr.

Moody.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Through you uh I agree with my colleague from Ward 1.

Uh work with him, my other colleague from Ward 1.

This is one of our goals to have safer streets in the city, and this will be another uh addition here to accomplishing our goal.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Anyone else?

Dr.

Aldridge.

Mayor Collins for you.

I'm wondering um that actually calculates out to about $10,000 per intersection, um, the $162,000 for 15 intersections.

And I'm wondering if the data that we will be receiving from that uh will be used and extrapolated for other um identifying other areas where we might need to work on signal timing improvements, and um if we're using that data to triangulate um documentation as we would work on these improvements around town, Mr.

Cobb.

Mayor through you to Dr.

Aldridge.

So to answer your last question, the answer is yes, as a holistic point of view.

But however, we you'll see coming forward to you.

I have another one coming for Persing itself.

So all the main corridors will have to be done independently, but we can generally use the data that we get from it for safety improvements and such, but specifics with timing are specific to a quarter.

I hope that makes sense, ma'am.

Dr.

Alders, follow up one follow-up question, Mayor Collins.

Um, if we were to do all of these at one time, would we see any benefit or cost reduction um in buying bulk per se?

Mr.

Cobb Mayor, through you is a Dr.

Aldridge.

Uh no, ma'am, I think it would it would be about the same.

Thank you.

Anyone else?

Hearing none.

All those in favor of the bid, uh, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Those opposed.

Professional services agreement is approved on to the next item, please.

Number 15A consideration of bid number S-3-26 for an agreement between the city of Cheyenne and Cheney landscaping for the High Plains Arboretum irrigation project.

All right, did anybody hear today to talk about uh irrigation on the the uh arboretum?

Hearing none, Mr.

Laborne.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the finance committee is to accept the bid in an amount not to exceed 236,641 dollars, and I so move.

Seconded by Mr.

Moody.

Comments from members of the governing body.

Yes, sir.

Dr.

Aldridge.

Mayor Collins, um, in looking at this um item, I was wondering if you might be able to um tell us where if if there's been any movement um with the Wyoming State Legislature on um plans for adopting this as a state park.

And um I'm wondering how much money we're going to put into this before we um decide what the final outcome will be of this piece of property.

Mr.

Sanchez, you want to talk about the project?

I can speak to uh the legislative process.

Um the current legislature as it uh exists, does not seem to be interested in taking this on as a uh state historic site.

Um my hopes would be that uh we'll be able to revisit that in the future.

Um, but in the meantime, we had a little over three million dollars of state money that they gave us to uh help with the improvements on here, and Mr.

Sanchez can answer to that.

And Mr.

Mayor Jason Sanchez Community Reckon events.

Um, as the mayor stated we have uh just a little over three million dollars to make improvements at the Arboretum.

So we have done an irrigation design.

Tonight I'm asking for your support uh for the irrigation install.

This install will provide drip tubing and irrigation to about 1,243 trees.

Uh we currently flood irrigate the entire area, and some trees are missed in that uh method of watering.

Um so with this uh drip system, every tree would be watered and watered exactly uh as many gallons as they they need.

Some trees are more mature, maybe not need as much or more than uh newer trees.

Um we recently, with your approval, we replaced the roof at the headhouse or in design for replacement of the Lath House and the greenhouse.

We have a um pre-bid meeting this Friday for those two projects.

We have um we've done some work with uh lead and asbestos abatement and another quote coming for that.

And I think if we have your approval after we uh receive our quotes for the greenhouse and laugh house project, we will pretty much encumber all three million dollars by the end of the year.

Thank you.

And if we don't encumber it by the end of the year, then uh we'll have to give that money back to the legislature.

Uh so we're working very hard to make sure that doesn't happen.

Get encumbering.

It's been a task.

Anybody else for staff?

Mr.

Moody.

You can go, please.

Oh, I just wanted to comment.

I'm sure that the director Sanchez would back it up.

That as we're currently doing flood irrigation was pretty wasteful of our water resource up as well.

Mr.

Mayor and I would also I would agree with that and say that um it's also time consuming when we have to go water by truck and uh tank to catch the other trees.

So this will also be a reduction in staff's uh resources.

Mr.

Moody.

Oh, thank you, Sperry.

We also wanted to comment my colleague one uh stole it there when I used to install spray for systems and drift line, does save a lot of water, so long we're gonna save money and water.

Uh that would be an I vote.

Thank you.

Other comments?

Mr.

Mayor.

Uh just the second item that I call off the consent agenda and uh had to make the motion prior to um hearing from the responsible parties.

I think that uh it's it's a good idea that uh items that come off the consent agenda uh have the staff person probably that presented it in committee, able to as Mr.

Sanchev just abily did give us a quick overview of what the project's all about.

So I think that's a better approach and more in keeping with uh the concept of public comment.

Um Mr.

Umchez there is not a member of the public, he's a member of the staff that is working diligently on this project.

So I certainly appreciate everything that's been done.

I think this is uh a long-term tremendous benefit to the community, and obviously uh encumbering it before the end of the year just makes sense.

So I hope we can uh reach some good understanding about these matters as we progress to our meeting, Mr.

Mayor.

Thank you.

Any more comments?

Hearing none, we have a bid before us.

All those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Those opposed.

This bid is approved.

Next item is 16A on page four voucher report.

Is there anybody in the audience or on this governing body that would have questions about the vouchers?

Mr.

Moody.

Thank you, Mayor.

There you on page 17.

Uh, Mr.

Mayor, through your office, it was uh $7,500 for the uh sub work contract for the EPA five pollution reduction grant.

Oh, what is the Wyoming proof of independent citizens coalition?

I used to verification what that group is.

Wyoming independent citizens coalition is a group of uh local folks who um I'm not sure how to describe the WIC.

Um Mr.

Mayor, yes.

I would say that uh WIC is a group of folks who uh uh either grew up on or uh still live in South Cheyenne and they meet uh once a month.

Um they're actually a fine group of people who uh represent uh the interests of folks in in the southern part of our community, and I have uh uh the pleasure of well, I try to get to their monthly meetings, don't always make it.

Um, but but they're very forward thinking group and and uh certainly a credit to to Cheyenne.

Mr.

Moody, thank you.

Anyone else on the vouchers?

Thank you, Mr.

White.

All right, next item, please.

Revenue report.

Same item or same thing.

Anybody in the uh audience or in the governing body on the governing body that would like to uh question about the voucher or the revenue report?

We're just hoping we have some.

All right, next item, please.

Announcement of a public hearing to be held November 10, 2025 at 6 o'clock p.m.

at Laramie County School District No.

Boardroom, 2810 House Avenue, Cheyenne, Wyoming, and via electronic conference meeting.

Should the city municipal building reopen by the state?

The meeting will take place in city council chambers at 2101 O'Neill Avenue.

The public hearing is to determine whether compliance of annexation conditions required by Wyoming Statute 15 1-402 exists for the city initiated annexation of 20 parcels of land, totaling roughly 13.64 acres comprised of various tracts of land and rights of way situated in East Cheyenne, generally located south of Laramie Street, east of T Burt Drive, north of East Lincoln Way and US 30 and west of Parsons Place.

Announcement of a public hearing to be held November 10th, 2025 at 6 o'clock p.m.

at the Laramie County School District number one boardroom, 2810 House Avenue, Cheyenne, Wyoming, MVL electronic conference meeting.

Should the city municipal building reopen by the state?

The meeting will take place in city council chambers at 2101 O'Neill Avenue.

The public hearing is to determine whether compliance of annexation conditions required by Wyoming Statute 15 1-402 exists for the owner initiated annexation of free parcels of land totaling roughly 20.41 acres located northwest of the intersection of Commerce Avenue and East Carlson Street, other business.

All right, is there anybody here in the audience to speak to us tonight under other business?

All right, hearing none.

How about from the governing body?

Yes, sir.

Mr.

White.

I'll let Mr.

Escobar go first.

I was just gonna give a shout out to our downtown.

If you're out and about Friday night or Saturday afternoon, uh downtown was really hopping.

We had the pub crawl Friday night, and all our bars and restaurants were packed Saturday afternoon at the trunk or treat uh for the DDA district.

Every street was lined with children and adults in costumes, and it was something to see.

Uh enjoy taking my grandson down there and um just about every business almost ran out of canning.

So yeah, it was really something to see.

Mr.

White.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Well, Mr.

Escobel uh kind of commented on what I was gonna um say, but thank you to the downtown develop uh downtown foundation as well as the DDA for uh providing funding support for uh all the trunk or treat events.

Um and then there's still a couple more to go.

I think the police is having one um this Wednesday.

So um kids don't have to earn the candy like we used to.

Um second, uh the last thing I wanted to do, and I just wanted to uh at the risk of embarrassing her uh Pete and I just really wanted uh Councilman Layborn and myself really want to thank Jen, our admin, for uh all the help she's given us.

Um we have 13 interviews to sit through over the next couple of days to uh engage in the unenviable task of trying to fill our uh our late colleagues' seat.

And uh Jen's just been invaluable throughout the process, and I just wanted to embarrass her tonight.

So thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Dr.

Albers.

Did you have something?

I did not, Mr.

Labourne.

No.

Anyone else?

Thank you all for being here tonight.

We're adjourned.