Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.

I would like to call the March 23rd meeting of the governing body to order.

Madam Clerk, would you take the role, please?

Dr.

Emmons.

Mr.

Escabel.

Mr.

Labourne.

Here.

Mr.

Moody.

Here.

Dr.

Rennie.

Yes.

Mr.

Seagrave.

Present.

Mr.

White.

Present.

Mr.

Wolf.

Here.

Dr.

Aldrich.

Present.

And Mayor Collins.

I'm present also.

Would you please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance?

States of America.

To the Republic for which it stands.

Item number four, consent agenda.

All agenda items listed with the designation of CA are considered to be routine items by the governing body and will be enacted by one motion.

There will be no separate discussion on these items unless a member of the governing body so requests and the support by two other members is received.

Any item removed from the consent agenda will be considered in its normal sequence on the agenda.

All right.

Are there any items a member of the governing body would like for move from the consent agenda?

Hearing none, I would entertain a motion.

By Mr.

Seagrave, seconded by Dr.

Aldridge.

All those in favor of the consent agenda, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Those opposed?

The consent agenda is approved.

The next item is number 10A, public hearing for a bar and grill liquor license application filed with the city clerk's office for Mongolian Bar and Grill, doing business as Mongolian Bar and Grill 1637, Stillwater Avenue, Suite C Cheyenne, Wyoming.

All right.

We'll open up a public hearing, but before we do that, I'd just like to say uh a bar and grill license is um a special license that's limited by population.

And after if we uh do assign this, and we'll still have five left.

And so at this time, I'd open it up.

Does anybody here from Mongolian Grill or anybody want to speak to it?

Don't have to, sir, but do you want to come up and tell us what you're doing?

Appreciate you.

I understand we might be under new ownership.

Is that correct?

That's correct.

Can you push that button and turn that microphone on and introduce yourself?

My name is Robin Kozad.

Welcome, Robin.

Yeah, I bought the grill in December.

It was declining for the last year and a half.

And uh we took it over and have been fixing all the processes that are currently in place.

And then we wanted to add a bar to that establishment uh to continue to make everything in there as awesome as it could be.

Well, we appreciate your investment in a community.

Does anybody have a question for the applicant?

Robin, welcome and thank you so much.

Thank you.

Anyone else in the community?

Mr.

Johnson, welcome.

Thank you.

Richard Johnson, 612, McGovern Abu.

Um, I'm gonna support my homie, so I appreciate it if you guys would too.

Thanks.

I like that.

Anybody else in the audience?

All right.

Um the purpose of the public hearing has oh, let's go to the governing body.

Last second.

Anybody?

Ah, the purpose of the public hearing has been met.

We're gonna assign this item to the finance committee.

Agenda item number 11, ordinance third reading.

Repealing and replacing ordinance number 4603, which specified the monthly stormwater runoff management system user fee in accordance with section 13.32.050 of the municipal code of the city of Cheyenne, Wyoming.

All right.

This is an ordinance that would repeal our stormwater feel fee.

It's really in collaboration with the legislature.

They have agreed to work with us this interim this summer to see if there's some ways that we might be able to uh find a way forward.

Um, and then at the end of that period of time, we can either re-establish it or hopefully have a different path forward that would come from the legislature.

Uh at this time, I'd go out to the audience if anybody wants to speak to this item.

Mr.

Johnson.

Yes, once again, Richard Johnson, 612 McGovern Avenue.

Um, I'll start off by kind of going off of what you just said.

I don't trust the legislature.

And, you know, and really watching the last two years in regards to even uh interim topics, you once they even go through their interns, it's not even guaranteed that it's going to be heard, you know, in front of the general session.

So I just don't believe them.

And after watching a lot, the last few council meetings, you know, in regards to the farm and seeing like six of them come up here and basically not support this, you know, they're up there too.

And it doesn't look like the political climate in Wyoming is going to get any better, especially if you bring in new people and then they're like, well, I'm not familiar with it.

I'm not gonna really trust the end term, as what happened in 2024 and going into 25.

So I just don't really believe them.

You know, I think that they'll just kick the can down the proverbial road in regards to that.

Other things that I know were problems, you know, with the school district.

Anyone that's ever done any research in regards to a crosswalk and know how many corners they try to cut with the city, you know, even for safety issues of kids, you know, this was for flood.

I mean, really, what was the city council supposed to be for?

It was supposed to be the health, welfare, safety of its residents.

That's exactly why we did this ordinance to begin with.

You know, so when the school district says that they're going to sue the city because of impervious surfaces that they don't feel that they have the revenues for, you know, that's a bunch of BS.

They don't have the money, but they also are going to kill their own clients.

They're gonna kill their own kids that live in the trailer park, you know, over here off of Crow Creek.

They're gonna, you know, basically, you know, Mayor Pando ran with his own daughter getting killed in the flood of 85.

You know, Sheridan had when we looked at the Sheridan assessment, and I'm sorry that Wes left the city, but when we were looking at all those things in regards to Dry Creek along the Sheridan corridor, you know, how many of those corridors?

Converse, hilltop, mountain, all of those things needed repaired.

That was the whole discussion is that we needed a revenue stream that could take care of this.

It wasn't as something as simple as you know, a rain tax or drudging some canal to free this up.

You know, this actually came with real purpose.

And I remember the conversations because this was a council goal, I believe, from 2022 on until it passed in 2024.

You know, we worked on this for two years.

West went out there and he was at, you know, schools, events, anything that had any kind of civic engagement to show that the city was actually trying to market this as beneficial to its residents.

You know, you look at the maps.

I looked at the maps, you know, when Alf came to me and said, Richard, how can you not represent the city?

I thought you were a man of the people.

And I'm like looking at the map of the stormwater utility going down Bradley, and I'm like a couple of blocks from his business.

And I'm like, just because your entire block face is impervious surface and you may have over a thousand dollars in stormwater utility fees.

And I was like, So you're telling me that all those people in those trailer parks and everything need to die.

And then once um after that happens and everyone says who's to blame and what are we gonna have a thankful Thursday for those families?

I was like, oh, so we can't actually make a commitment, you know, to actually save people's lives, but in the hindsight, we want to look like a hero.

When I sat up there, I actually thought to myself, I was like, I have an RV port, I have a roof, and I have a driveway.

So I was like, even on my own property, I knew I had an imperv enough impervious services that I was billing myself and I knew I wasn't gonna be sitting up there.

So I took responsibility for myself on what I was going to pay into this utility.

And I remember sitting up there and actually telling, you know, everybody that spoke against it, which wasn't a lot because I brought up a lot of other contentious stuff at that point.

But you know, I told them, I was like, I'm looking out for my people, not even being elected.

So, you know, I just basically go back to it.

Once these people die, and I know that when 2023 happened, you know, had the amount of water that we saw in 85.

So the saturation levels were a little different than they were in 85.

We still have the same amount of water, but you know, it's been what?

You know, that was 85.

So 41 going on 41 years.

So, you know, what when what uh excuse me, when Tom tells us about 50 year flood events, 100-year flood events, we're getting on to that close 50, you know, for another one of these events to actually happen where we're looking at a lot of people that are potentially going to die, just like in 85, and we're in no better shape.

But unless we actually what we did here is, you know, tried to save our residents and property, because there's going to be a ton of property damage when this 50 year flood comes through here.

So remember what we did.

I know Kathy and Mark, you know, we're we're not here at the time, or excuse me.

Sorry, I forgot.

Sorry, Scott, I forgot you died, but um, and then when Larry was here or not here.

But you know, when we all made those decisions, you know, in December of 2024, it was to literally save our residents.

And yeah, we all had to kick in a little bit to do it.

You know, I was here to save my neighbors, save my community, do what was best for it.

And I'm literally worried that the legislature is not going to do anything for you, and you're gonna be back here in 2027 after that, doing the same exact thing, looking at the exact same data with people that are no longer with the city that actually made very, very sizable contributions, not only for the drone work, but you know, the resources that went out to the community to speak on this.

So I literally think that looking at two years of work that West and Tom did on this, you know, is kind of just stab in the back for false promises from the legislature.

Mr.

Johnson, just a point of fact.

The um I think if we didn't do this, the legislature would have just abandoned our forbid us from doing it.

And so it was a compromise to give us some time to try to work with them to be able to get it done.

And so, but I do appreciate your being here and in your comments today.

Well, that's good because I mean, you know how good I am at fundraising.

So, with all those people that are gonna die whenever that 50 year flood event, I'll make a Wyoming tour to every one of those legislators' homes with the people who passed away, and we'll go say you owe them an apology.

Sorry for your loss.

Anybody else here today to speak to this uh ordinance before us?

Anybody?

Jennifer?

None.

Okay.

We'll go out to uh Mr.

White to uh get a motion, please.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the finance committees to approve on third and final reading, and I so move second.

Seconded by Mr.

Moody comments from members of the governing body.

Dr.

Rennie.

Mr.

Mayor, thank you.

Um I do want to acknowledge the comments of my former colleague.

I mean, we did um when we passed this, I mean, we were thinking about loss of life and and loss and property damage.

And I do think it's necessary.

I mean, but I want people to know and want to remind people that we currently spend a million dollars a year on drainage improvements, and we continue and we will continue to do that for the next year.

Um I think that in discussions with legislators, several of them, you know, realize this is an issue, not only in Cheyenne, but around the around the state.

And maybe some of them won't see it our way, but some of them do, and some of them have pledged to help us.

And um, stormwater drainage is the number one topic to that be undertaken by the select committee on water.

So I think that it is it behooves us to try and find a solution that can address through the legislature and try and use those work with those members that have promised to help us.

Um, as I said, to try and find a solution that will help us take care of our drainage and faster than what we're able to take care of our drainage issues faster than what we're able to do it and yet not um be perceived as a burden to property owners.

So um I would urge my colleagues to go ahead and vote for this repeal.

Thank you.

Mr.

Wolf, I see your lights on.

Mr.

Mayor, thank you very much.

Um I I won't repeat all the comments I've made at the committee meeting and and before the full council, I'm opposed uh to this.

I agree with um former councilman Johnson.

Um I um I think we need to put a lot more money into storm drainage, and um I'm gonna see if I can pursue something to accomplish that over the next uh couple months.

Um, but um I'm a firm no on uh approving this um ordinance.

Thank you.

Mr.

Seagrave, Mr.

Mayor, I'm I'm opposed to this, but I'm going to vote for it.

Isn't that fun?

Um I realize the um damage that we could do at the at the state level if we don't do this.

However, I think it's incredibly important that we address storm water.

Uh one of the other ways I've been I've been trying to think about other ways we might be able to do this.

And perhaps we require the school district and the mall and the other folks that that uh really um bought this um to eliminate any water leaving their property, however they want to do it, but effective X day, you can no longer contribute to our uh tributories.

That's another way of doing it.

And if they can figure out a better and cheaper way to accomplish that, uh that could that works for me.

So I'll be working on that as we move forward.

Thank you.

Dr.

Aldrich.

I would have to say that I agree with my colleague from ward two that um well I um have continuously said that um we definitely need this uh stormwater, we need a way to um remedy the stormwater system that we have.

And um while I didn't agree that um the it should not have gone before the people for a vote, I definitely believe that we need this system, and I do think it is going to be a major loss of life if we have another flooding event similar to 1985.

Um at that point it'll be too late.

Um so I had the opportunity to visit with um five of our legislators from Laramie County at recently at a ribbon cutting, and um I'm not real confident that they're gonna be able to follow through.

In fact, I was told that the interim topic probably wasn't going to really help address this at all.

Um, that we should be looking for other ways to solve it ourselves.

So um, well, I will continue to work with my colleagues to figure out a way to do that.

Um I I believe that while we're trying to keep our word to the legislative body, I don't know that that um is something that they feel compelled to do on their part.

So um, well, I'll be a yes vote tonight in order to keep our word to the in a promise that was made to the legislature.

Um I I will be working to find other ways that we may be able to remedy this in our community.

Mr.

Labourne.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Um before I go any further, I just want to address the idea of our word to the legislature.

Um that's kind of a strong term to use in regard to this type of uh situation because obviously there are many many factors that really um probably are going to be difficult to address.

I would say that um when we look at that interim study, and if any good comes out of it, so be it.

What are we gonna do in the meantime to deal with these issues?

Or are we gonna wait until after the interim, after the next session of the legislature?

What's plan B?

And I'm not sure that we have plan B.

And I don't think that uh when you look back at the whole situation, obviously um more outreach would have been a good idea.

Maybe we ought to do some outreach right now over on that stretch of dry creek between Ridge Road and College that is just totally choked with vegetation.

Maybe it'd be a good idea to go and start there and show people we're coming along with this.

We're not just waiting on the legislature.

I think we need to show what we can do and how we can do it and where we can do it.

Because either way, if there was such a interest on the select water committee, and they found a way to authorize us somehow.

I mean, that's really the question is our authorization.

Is it a vote of the people?

Is it a vote on our part on a fee?

Okay, so that gets resolved.

What's the collection methodology?

So again, um not really much choice here, but I do want to vote no to be on the record.

Uh that I think that uh this is really not going to um do what I believe some of the members hope.

Thank you.

Dr.

Emmett.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Um, I'm gonna be a yes on this for the reason that I mean I can't obviously argue with Richard, he's right.

Um, there's definite risks that that we have in the community.

Um, but I also think that we have this is one of those times where we have to balance, unfortunately, with with compromise.

Will the legislature come through?

Probably not, in all honesty, but I think we have we have to give them the chance to do that.

And the fact that this is a statewide problem is one of my hopes that because it is bigger than just us, they will look favorably on this.

And the other reason that I'm gonna vote yes on this is that we still have the infrastructure in place, which is part is plan B.

We've got the infrastructure in place to be able to do this.

Bopu has done all the work, and Tom's group has done all the work to um build a fee structure.

So at least we are way further than we would be otherwise.

So that that's the comfort that I haven't, even though hope is not a plan.

I guess this is one of those hopeful plans.

So um I'm gonna vote yes for this.

Anybody else in the governing body?

Mr.

Moody.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Through you.

Oh, thank you for the public comments.

Um, probably a different perspective.

Why I'm a yes vote.

Mainly uh my constituents, uh, they pretty much said they were opposed to it when it was implemented.

That's why they went to the legislature, it's not just here, but in Albany County.

That's why Senator Crumb brought up the bill, and again, we know at the legislature interim topic, but another thing too is you look at some of the uh industrial businesses like the UP Railroad, $18,000 a month is not very business friendly in the Microsoft Day Center of Christensen, over $5,000 a month, Magpool a thousand dollars a month.

Again, we have to look at that as well, too.

So again, we need to look for funding it.

Look at our reserves or potentially not obviously this year, but long run, fifth or sixth penny.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Anyone else?

Jennifer, Mr.

Escabella, you can go ahead.

Uh Mr.

Mayor, through you.

The way I feel about it is that our average constituent really doesn't understand the politics of this, and for them to maybe come to us someday and after an event that takes life and look us in the eye and say, why didn't you do something when you knew this could possibly happen?

Is something that I don't think I could live with.

And I know there's some unfairness when it comes to corporate uh Cheyenne on the way it was charged.

Uh I think just on principle, I'll have to be a no.

Anyone else in the governing body?

All right, hearing none.

Oh, Mr.

White, thank you.

Um this is a really difficult uh vote for me because I am like Mr.

Seagrave, I am opposed to this, but I'm going to be a yes.

Um it's kind of this this is like taking medicine.

Sure doesn't taste good.

Um only this is the first time in the 10 years that I've been on council where we've dealt with something like this, and the legislature in six five, six years ago allowed communities to do this, so we do all the legwork.

Uh tons of staff time, both in the city engineer's office and at BO BOPU.

And we tried to come up with a uh the fairest way we could we could think of uh calculating it out.

We did do lots of public input beforehand, and then we passed the uh the ordinance, and then after the fact, the legislature comes back because some powerful groups file suit and say, well, well, we didn't we didn't mean it, and that's really difficult, really difficult for me to understand.

However, I will be uh voting yes tonight, and I do hope uh the legislature follows through with this.

Am I skeptical?

Yes.

Um if they don't, then I'm their constituent, and they'll be here, they'll be hearing from me when I vote.

Thank you.

Any last comments?

Madam Clerk.

Mayor Collins.

Yes, Dr.

Emmons?

Yes, Mr.

Escobel.

No, Mr.

Labourne.

No.

Mr.

Moody.

Aye.

Dr.

Rennie.

Yes.

Mr.

Seagrave.

Reluctantly, yes.

Mr.

White.

Mr.

Wolf.

Emphatically, no.

Dr.

Aldrich.

Sadly, yes.

All right.

This ordinance is approved on third and final readings with Mr.

Escabel, Labourne, and Wolf voting no.

Item 12, ordinance, second reading.

Amending the official zoning map of the city of Cheyenne, changing the zoning classification for land located north of West College Drive and east of South Parsley Drive, or my apologies, South Parsley Boulevard from PUD Harmony Valley Planned Unit Development to NR3 neighborhood residential high density.

All right.

This is a zone change to support building five 24 unit apartment buildings to add some more uh housing and affordability of housing to our inventory.

We'll go out to the audience and see if there's any comments.

All right, hearing none.

Dr.

Emmons.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the public service committee is to approve on second reading and ISO move.

Second.

Seconded by Mr.

Seagrave.

Do we have comments on the zone change by members of the governing body?

Hearing none.

All those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Those opposed.

The ordinance is approved on second reading.

Number 13, ordinance second reading.

Amending the official zoning map of the city of Cheyenne, changing the zoning classification for land located south of West Allison Road, west of Walter Scheide Boulevard, and north of Grand Harmony Boulevard from PUD Harmony Valley Planned Unit Development to NR3 neighborhood residential high density.

All right.

This is a zone change that will allow for more density and affordability by allowing for some smaller homes on smaller lots.

Actually, 196 more cottage cottage style lots.

And we'll go out to the audience and see if anybody has any comments on this zone change.

All right, hearing none, Dr.

Emmons.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the public service committee is to approve on second reading and ISO move.

Second.

Seconded by Mr.

Seagrave.

Comments from members of the governing body.

This is a point of information.

Mr.

Moody.

Uh thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Through your point of information through you, Mr.

Mayor.

Do you can you explain the public what you mean by uh cottage-style homes so they have a better understanding?

Yeah, they're just uh smaller, smaller homes.

They're gonna be priced in uh the low 300,000s, which shocks me to say is an affordable house in today's world, but it is.

Um, and lots instead of being the 78,000 square foot size lots that we normally would have.

Um, I think they're just under 4,000 square feet.

And so um, they're just smaller lots, uh, smaller homes is what they're they're looking to build here.

Anybody else on the governing body?

Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Those opposed.

This ordinance is also approved on third and final reading.

And I think that's 316 units that um this developer will be building over the next year.

Did I say third reading?

I apologize, second reading.

Is it wishful thinking?

Item number 14 ordinance second reading, amending the official zoning map of the city of Cheyenne, changing the zoning classification for land located north of Allison Road and west of Walterscheide Boulevard from AG agricultural to NR3 neighborhood residential high density.

This property is right now in an agricultural holding zone, and they don't have any specific development plans that they are that they've shared with us, but it is to allow for a future housing development.

Anybody in the audience want to speak to that?

Hearing none, Dr.

Emmons.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the public service committee is to approve on second reading and ISO move.

Seconded again by Mr.

Seagrafe.

Alboth on the council want to say anything about this zone change.

Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Those opposed.

Number 15, ordinance second reading.

Amending the official zoning map of the city of Cheyenne, changing the zoning classification for land located northwest of the intersection of East 29th Street and Central Avenue from MR medium density residential to NR2, neighborhood residential, medium density.

All right.

This is an existing development of row homes or townhomes, um, all under one ownership, and they're trying to uh split this up into individual lots so they can be sold off individually, and that's what the zone change would allow, those to be split off.

And so we'll go out to the audience to see if anybody wants to speak to the zone change.

All right, Dr.

Emmons.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the public service committee is to approve on second reading, and I still move.

Second.

Seconded by Mr.

White.

Comments from members of the governing body on the zone change.

All right, hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Those opposed.

This ordinance is also approved on second reading.

Number 16 ordinance, second reading.

Vacating Frank Court and a small segment of a previously vacated alley north of Rock Springs Street, City of Cheyenne, Laarmie County, Wyoming, located east of North College Drive and north of Rock Spring Street.

All right, this is a vacation of an unneeded right-of-way, and we're here to see if anybody wants to talk to us from the public.

Okay.

Hearing none, Dr.

Emmons.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the public service committee is to approve on second reading, and I so move.

Second.

Seconded by Mr.

Seagrave.

Comments on the vacation for members of the governing body.

Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Those opposed.

This ordinance is also approved on second reading.

Number 17, ordinance first reading, amending section 13.20.050, general prohibitions, and section 13.20.070 local limits of chapter 13.20, water waste treatment and disposal of the code of the city of Cheyenne, Wyoming, to revise local discharge limits and related provisions in compliance with MPDES and WPDES permit requirements.

We'll send this one to the public services committee.

Number 18, ordinance first reading, amending section 2.76.040, designation of downtown development district of chapter 2.76, downtown development authority of Title II, Administration and Personnel of the Municipal Code of the City of Cheyenne, Wyoming, to expand the downtown development district.

We'll send this one to the public services committee.

Number 19, ordinance first reading.

Appropriating money for the Reed Avenue Corridor Project.

We'll send this one to the finance committee.

Next is item number 24A on page four.

Contract modification number one to contract 8267 between the city of Cheyenne and Plan One Architects for the Municipal Building Renovation Design Project.

All right.

Welcome, Ms.

Nemichek.

Vicky Nemichek Public Works.

Just a quick update on this modification.

Um this modification to the is to the municipal building renovation design project.

It adds the council building renovation, which is the old senior center, um, to be redesigned as the uh new council building, and it adds the municipal court second floor renovation design.

Um, this is really just one big project with two separate funding sources.

The original contract was funded with two and a half million dollars, which is approved by the voters in 2021, six in the 2021 sixpenny election.

Ballot question though limits the use of the fund specifically to the municipal building.

So we can't use this on the municipal court renovation, nor can we use it on the um the old senior center, the new council building.

We are recommending general fund reserves to fund this modification of 867,050.

All three buildings are really pieces of a single project, which is the renovation of the municipal building.

approved by the voters in 2021 six in the 2021 sixpenny election ballot question though limits the use of the funds specifically to the municipal building so we can't use this on the municipal court renovation nor can we use it on the um the old senior center the new council building we are recommending general fund reserves to fund this modification of 867050 dollars all three buildings are really pieces of a single project which is the renovation of the municipal building the addition to the north end of the current municipal building was downsized when the old senior center became available and that will be the where the council chamber offices were going to be added on at the north end of the building the municipal court second floor makes space for employees displaced during the municipal building renovation several council members actually recommended the use of the municipal court during up the original contract discussion at finance committee and I just wanted to say that it's very important that a single entity manage the entire project as each piece is dependent on the timing of other pieces.

So I would be happy to answer any questions and plan one is also available to answer questions.

Thank you.

We have a public works manager here.

Dr.

Aldrich do you have a question?

I do thank you.

Mayor Collins through you um first and foremost I guess are we not planning to use our city project manager to coordinate all of these projects rather than relying up on the architect or the general contractor to try and coordinate this mayor through you normally we would we contract with a design uh firm who also manages construction administration helps with the bidding and the go negotiating for the bid um they do all of that and that is the normal process that we go through.

Follow-up question Mayor Collins through you um I'm wondering how do you how do you believe that this is fair and equitable to other companies who might be wanting to bid on a project um to do this as a contract modification.

Ms.

Nimichek through you mayor um this project is really one project the we really um would have if all of these things had been known at the beginning if we knew before we went before we came before the city council for uh the original contract to renovate the municipal building had we known um prior to starting this whole project that the senior center would be the next council chambers area and the council offices and if we had known that you desired the renovation of the second floor of the municipal court which we did not know until the first thing we heard about it was at that finance committee meeting when we were talking about this to make it fair um I think plan one would have had a huge leg up to start with because they were on this project at from the beginning so to go out to different company and try to bring that those companies in and try to to manage the timing of all of these projects first we have to get the council chambers done then we have to get the municipal court done then we can move people out of here and into another place.

So those uh to start this building before any of that is done doesn't make a lot of sense um so we felt that it was appropriate to do a modification to the contract thank you anybody else in the governing body Mr.

Wolf.

Uh thank you Mr.

Mayor through you um thank you director um is there any urgency about doing this contract modification Ms.

Nimichek through you mayor we have already tasked plan one to draw several drawings of the old senior center we've already had a work session they have not been paid we do not have a contract for that although we have actually asked them to move forward with this we haven't spent over the limit of the purchasing we would be able to pay them and stop this service if that's what we uh desired um I don't think personally that's the right move to make but but it could be done um Ms.

Mayor follow up yes sir through you thank you um all of us on the council got an email from Jamie Winters uh who's a local architect um making some very good points about uh why of this should be put out to bid and that um local um architectural firms and um all of their uh associated subcontractors should be considered and um I just uh and on top of that uh Mr.

So they already have a lot of knowledge of this, and I'm just curious about um why we think we would get a superior result um by just going ahead with plan one as opposed to putting this out for a competitive bid for these two buildings.

Ms.

Nimichek.

Through you, Mayor.

We are planning to hire a CMAR, which would also a construction manager at risk that would manage all three of the projects.

Um that would we would end up with different people and so many different people involved in this project, it would be difficult to manage.

It would put us behind the behind the schedule that we currently have, because the bidding process would be another approximately three months if we put that proposal out today, which we haven't written.

We would have to first create that RFP, send it out, uh do the entire process.

Um, this seems a reasonable, a reasonable way to move forward.

We have Mr.

Winters currently working on our Westland Road project.

Um his firm did do the municipal court.

Um I I was the project manager on that as well.

But that the court upstairs is simply an empty shell um with some bathrooms and the HVAC system.

I'm not sure why it would require anyone.

It would require Mr.

Winters or anyone else to design that specific area.

It's a square.

Dr.

Emmons.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Um, my question is are there not parameters on when we have to put something out for bid?

Is Nimichek or is TJ on?

Do we ask TJ?

These that's probably a more of a TJ question.

Good evening, Mayor.

This is TJ Bartleboard.

Can you hear me okay?

TJ, we hear you well, and thanks for being here.

Great, absolutely.

Um, so yeah, I did have a uh conversation with Mr.

Winters about this earlier this week, and I can kind of just recap to you what I shared with him.

So um Wyoming statute 15113, it technically exempts professional services from the requirement to go out for an RFP.

However, the city uh our purchasing policy has a more restrictive limit of 200,000 requires an RFP.

So we did um the original contract with plan one for the municipal building design was put out for RFP and came before the governing body for approval.

And so I guess the second phase of that would be the contract modification process.

Our city code has um those limits for what contract mods do and don't come before the governing body.

This contract modification does exceed that limit.

So it is before the governing body now for approval or for review.

So um beyond that, there's not really a set limit to cap how much a contract mod is.

So we've exceeded what we could approve without governing body approval.

So we're here today for uh consideration.

Hopefully that helps line out that and available for any other questions.

TJ, the original bid that um plan one was selected from, uh, how many people were on that bid?

Do you know?

Uh Mayor TJ Bartleboard.

I don't know off the top of my head exactly, but I think it was at least seven or eight firms from uh across the front range.

And was Mr.

Uh Winter's firm one of those firms?

Uh yes, the Winters Griffith was a firm that submitted for that uh for the proposal for the RFP for the main contract for the municipal building renovation.

Thank you, sir.

I do uh Dr.

Emmons follow-up.

Thank you.

Um TJ, what is considered a contract modification?

Is it scope?

Um, or is it are there diff definitions of what constitutes a modification?

Because this seems like more than just adding a little thing on.

This seems like a significant modification.

So do our processes define what constitutes a modification?

Mr.

Bardleboard.

Mayor Collins through you to Dr.

Emmons.

Uh uh contract modification can consist of uh change of scope, addition of scope, extension of time, any number of things that would affect a project.

So um I don't know that I would say our our the contract modification language that's in city code has a couple examples of things where if it's only for a time extension or things like that, that those things don't require a governing body approval.

But as the scope increases and the dollar amount increases, those things are required to come to the governing body for approval.

There's not really an extensive or exclusive list of what is or isn't allowed.

Um, but changes to scope and increase of scope, those things are generally what we consider things to be handled via contract modification.

Anyone else in the governing body?

Dr.

Aldrich.

Since this is supposed to be my understanding was this is going to be one of our sixpenny ballot initiatives.

Um I'm not thinking that this is probably so urgent that we couldn't um divide this up and go out.

My understanding from the email that I received um this afternoon was that there have already been plans drawn for the second floor of the municipal building um by the uh architect who worked on the municipal court building.

So I I guess I'm I'm just not convinced of the urgency or and don't understand how this would be fair to anyone else who would want to bid to basically add on what I see as basically an entire project to an existing project.

All right, we're still in public comment, part of our uh our situation.

And uh Ms.

Numek, did you have to speaking them a check public works?

I would just like to say that if we don't decide to move forward with the senior center, we will not be able to move forward with the design of the municipal building at this time.

Um we can't we we don't know what we're gonna do.

If we don't know what we're gonna do, then we can't move forward either with this building or any other building.

So just a point.

Anyone else in the audience, Mr.

Johnson?

Richard Johnson 612, McGovern Avenue.

One thing it's odd listening to Vicky talk when it talks about multiple funding streams, but on your agenda, it only says general fund reserves, which concerns me.

And the reason that is is because the design concept was approved by the voters.

But I want to, I would encourage you to wait because I believe on this item on the six penny ballot, this is going to be the sacrificial land that you had.

There's just not a lot of interest in, you know, the governmental campus that, you know, is being projected by your director.

You know, so I think you kind of are.

If you're going to use these monies to improve upon your government campus just for the design work, you know, you in hindsight, I think this is going to come back and bite you because I don't see this uh passing on six penny when you actually come to construction.

Anyone else in the audience?

All right.

Mr.

White.

Motion, please.

Sorry.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the finance committee is to approve an amount not to exceed $867,000, $50 and I so move.

Second.

Seconded by Mr.

Seagrave.

You know, there was a question asked earlier about what the urgency is.

And um, I guess maybe I'm a little more optimistic than my former colleague that we have a chance to get this passed.

But um, it's a very large project.

I think we have 22 million dollars on the six penny sales tax.

And it would be my intention to uh if this passes to build it as quickly as we can because of the cost of inflation.

If we wait a year or a year and a half to start this project, it'll cost us more than $800,000 in increased costs.

So the thought I have is that um if we can get the uh the senior center building done, and which is something I think we want to do, and if we can get the second floor of the uh the courthouse done, and I know this this council, this governing body has been saying we should be doing that for a long time.

And I've been resistant because I didn't know what what our purpose was, but now that we have a purpose, we get those done um now.

So then by the time November comes and we start the collection, we'll be able to start that first day, and um, or as soon as we can, as soon as we can get mobilized and to do that.

And I think it'll save this cost in in an increased cost in inflation.

And so the thought is to do this thing in phases to get the the auxiliary business.

We can't do this unless we have a place for the governing body to go.

And so we'll build the senior center building into the new um home for the the city council meetings, these meetings, and uh we'll we'll have a place for many of our employees to go.

Uh so we won't have to be out renting buildings or whatever, we'll be in one of our own buildings.

And so I think that's the urgency.

If we don't do this now, and then we wait, we're going to be a couple years down the road, and it'll cost us more money.

Mr.

White.

Mr.

Mayor, um if the project is kind of rests on the whole notion of getting the senior center or the former senior center completed, that part of the project seems to be still questionable.

I mean, we don't know, we don't know if if that's a done deal yet.

And so, and as somebody who has worked with HUD before, um we we very well may not know once the uh ballot comes along.

So I understand the position that yes, technically the uh second floor um courthouse, senior center, municipal building, they are all connected, but as my colleague from Ward One pointed out, there the um email that was sent did raise some very concerning points.

And when you look at the the additional scope that this does add, I mean, we're talking two different buildings in different locations.

Well, one's just across the courtyard, one is in a different location.

So I don't know.

I don't know.

I just have some concerns.

Amber, if I speak out of turn the holler at me, but uh I don't think getting the senior building is the question, it's what we're gonna pay for it.

Um we've we've made an offer to them um looking for a discount, but um, but I think that that's the only question, right?

It's not that can we have the building, we can have the building, it's just the question of how much it will cost us.

We've asked for some um we'll go ahead, ma'am.

Mayor through you, Amber Ash, Chief of Staff.

We did receive some additional communication today um regarding that.

Um obviously there wasn't time um before this meeting to um brief council on that.

Um, there was no way to put in an executive session before this meeting.

Um, that being said, um there is no reason to believe that we could not acquire the building.

It's a matter of what we're willing to pay.

Um, and I've had follow-up conversations with Mr.

Hancock from CHA today as well, um, regarding what that might look like going forward based on the direction that we received from HUD.

Mr.

or Dr.

Innie.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Um I want to remind my colleagues that the addition or the consideration of buying the old senior center and moving council office and perhaps another office there, changed the whole complexion of the project.

And it changed it in midstream.

Um, as Director Nemicek said earlier, our original plans was to extend this building north, eat up that grass area between the current building and the parking lot.

And that's where council offices and and and new chambers were gonna go.

So when we decided that as a council decided that no, we wanted to pivot and look at buying the um buying the old senior center and move some offices over there.

That changed the whole scope of what plan one was working on.

And to me, it seems logical that if they were working on council offices and chambers before, the fact that we just said no, we're gonna buy another piece of property and we're gonna move council offices and chambers over there.

To me, it seems like it is all one package deal.

Um it doesn't make sense to when you're trying to coordinate parts of parts of a project to have different people running different parts of the project.

It seems to me it would be much more efficient to have the same firm doing all of it.

And lastly, I disagree with my colleagues when they say there's no rush.

There is a rush.

This is as been noted, this is um one of our designated projects for the sixth penny ballot in August.

And I think we need to have more than a conceptual idea of what we're gonna do when it's presented to the public.

So I don't think we can delay on this indefinitely.

Um, and lastly, Mr.

So and over the years, I've seen I've seen people come back and say, well, you know, would you rebid this fire truck because our product doesn't meet your your specifications?

And I've seen other companies make the same argument.

And I have to say that I firmly believe that if the shoe were on the other foot, um, the individual that wrote us the email would not be complaining at all and would say, no, this makes much more sense to stay the course as you are.

So Mr.

Mayor, I don't think it makes the sense makes any sense to delay.

I don't think it makes any sense to split up the projects.

I think we'll get a much better result if it's coordinated by one firm.

Dr.

Emmons.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

So I'm gonna uh my concern is the optics of this.

I don't have an issue with doing it.

I think it makes complete sense what we're what we're talking about doing.

Mike, and maybe it's just too many years working in state government where they were so tied down on you know, putting things out for bid and all that kind of stuff.

Um, I'm just concerned about the optics of it.

Should it go out for bid?

Does that make sense?

I don't know.

I mean, I could make a case either way for using the same um architect and not using the same architects, but I do worry about how it comes across to the public that are we giving somebody priority um in bidding.

Mr.

Wolfe.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Uh, through you.

Um I agree with all my friends on the council.

Um let me let me just make a couple of prefatory comments.

Um first I I support exactly what you're doing, Mr.

Mayor, in terms of going forward with this, and Chief of Staff, Ash, uh and and Director Jint Nemichek.

I I'm all in favor of spending reserves to move forward on this building and on these two other buildings.

So and I I think I I agree with you, uh, Mr.

Mayor, that that it sounds like we're likely to get the old senior center, and um, and that uh will then go forward.

Um, so I don't think we really are arguing about that.

What we're arguing about is this sort of fundamental right of um other companies and particularly local companies, local professionals to participate in a competitive bid uh situation.

Um, and that's clearly what this ought to be.

This is a large contract modification.

And let me tell you what I'm not sold on.

First of all, I'm not sold on the urgency issue.

Inflation, yes, inflation will be with us always.

Um the urgency is sort of self-created.

Um, we don't have anybody else telling us that we're urgents.

We've been in this building for 50 years, and uh another couple months is probably not gonna make much of a difference.

Um second of all, I'm I'm not at all persuaded that having one project architect is superior to having a couple firms, even um, these are professionals, architects, like lawyers, like all sorts of uh professionals we know work together all the time on the notion that somehow that we'll just will fall apart if we have another firm doing another part of the building because truly we we've got we've got these are separate buildings.

There's no reason in the world we have to have the same architect doing the municipal, the municipal court building and the senior center as this building.

Timing, yes, but any professional company can come on and move forward with the timing.

So I don't think that's a persuasive argument.

Um what is persuasive to me is that local professional firms are the heart and soul of our community.

Um, these are the people who serve on our boards.

They support all the events that we go to.

Um a contract like this, and I take Mr.

Winter at his at his word, uh, is really significant to uh to the smaller firms um that are uh resident in this community.

And I'm remind the council that I mean, we've heard from Mr.

Byers, who've who's in fact asked us to give uh local preference consideration uh over for these kinds of contracts.

We haven't acted on that.

Um, but all of those are tied together.

So I would urge the council to not approve this uh contract modification to put this out to bid.

If we can expedite the RFP process and the bidding process, that would be wonderful.

But I think I think we owe it to the community and owe it to our explanation.

And to Dr.

Rennie's point, we have a concept.

It's not like we we don't know what we're doing.

We absolutely know what we're doing, uh as long as these pieces, particularly the senior center, fall into place.

So we don't have any problem explaining it to the general public what in fact we're doing.

We I think would be actually better positioned to be explaining to the public that we took a large part of this contract and put it out to bid for the local firms and anybody else who wants to bid on these two separate uh development parts.

Thank you.

Mr.

Moody.

Yep.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Through you, yeah, I agree with my uh colleague from more Q Ward One.

And I'll just say what I said in the uh finance committee.

I still say it's putting the uh carp for the horse.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Dr.

Waldish.

Uh, Mayor Collins to you.

Uh I first and foremost, I I feel badly uh that plan one has done some work.

And um, I am going to be a no vote on this tonight.

Um, because I agree with my colleague from Ward One that um the um this needs to, these are large projects or separate buildings.

I agree with my colleague from Ward Two that this is definitely about optics.

Um, and it's also about a fairness issue.

I I am not as um confident that this uh uh ballot initiative uh will uh be passed by the voters.

And um if it's not passed, then we have uh a set of plans.

We have I can't even count the number of plans that we've paid for in the last five years that I've been on the council.

Um, and a lot of times they don't come to fruition.

Um we spent almost a half a million dollars, I believe, or contracted for half almost a half a million dollars on the pump house that um did not were not utilized.

So um as a matter of fiscal responsibility and knowing that if we um aren't able, if this it doesn't pass on the sixpenny ballot that and we have the plans drawn up.

My experience has been on this council that then even when we do come around to finding the money to do that project, we have to have the plans adapted to the new building codes and modified or whatever needs to be done, as was done with the three fire stations using a plan that had been developed previously, still needed to have be up brought up to code and up to date.

So for that reason, I'm gonna be a no vote tonight.

Um, I I don't think there's the urgency.

I think that um the professionals can work it out.

And I think that um there's still a lot of things that are unknown before we invest uh over you know three quarters of a million dollars in plans that may not that may just sit on a shelf.

Mr.

Seagret, Mr.

Mayor, I'll be brief.

Uh I'm going to support this and and I just wanted to explain why.

As we sat here, I I was trying to put myself in position of perhaps one of the large new members of our community, and they needed to do an addition to their building.

I can't imagine them even considering going to an outside firm in the middle of a building project.

It just makes it so inconvenient and confusing.

And uh, I'm just not sure private industry would ever even consider this uh to the need uh that Mr.

White brought up.

Uh I was in a meeting recently, and and I know we're considering hiring additional inspectors for these uh large building projects.

There's nowhere in this building to house them.

So regardless if the if the voters approve this remodel or not, we have to find more room, whether that's in the uh adjoining uh facility or the uh municipal court.

We need additional room.

Um the reason honestly that we're looking at the uh senior center is it's cheaper.

It's cheaper than doing the build-out into the parking lot.

We're gonna get the building at a steel um total cost there is uh let for the building is less than this contract mud.

You can't do it any cheaper.

So that makes sense to me.

The urgency.

I know how slow government is.

It it just frustrates me.

If we stop now and put this out to bid and go through all of that process, we're talking months, months for everything.

As Director Nemichek said, the the plans for this building until we know exactly what we're going to do with it, either add on to the parking lot or not.

Can't go forward.

Everything stops.

It's not just the uh bidding for the two additional properties.

Everything stops here.

Um with those things in mind, it it it makes sense to me uh to move forward.

And and I certainly hear my colleagues, uh, I'm concerned about local.

But when the mayor asked TJ Bartleboard, how many companies bid on this?

Uh there were seven competitors for this project.

Uh they had their chance.

Um I don't feel bad that they didn't have a chance at this.

They just don't have a chance.

Well, they might.

That's a contract mod.

Um, but they were part of the original bidding process.

So I'm comfortable with with where we're going.

Thank you.

Dr.

Emmons.

I'm sorry.

Uh thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

I'm sorry, I have one more question.

If we were it if we vote this down tonight, will we come?

Is there an option to come back with a process to rebid these other two parts?

Or will we just is this gonna be done?

No, I believe that if if you guys vote this down today, that uh I still believe that we we can't do this building without those other two, we will have to do it.

It's just going to set us back a significant period of time.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

And then my other question is how much time would it push it back?

TJ, are you there?

Mayor, I'm here.

Um, so if we started today, um, how long would it realistically take for you to get an RFP out, get the RFP back, go through the process of selecting a person and go through the council process to start uh so they could actually get started on work.

And then how long do you think you they would have in order or would ask for in order to get the work done?

Sure.

Mayor TJ Bartleboard purchasing manager.

Um so I guess before we can even go out for an RFP, I'd need assistance from the public works department and drafting that scope of work for what we'd be looking for in terms of those upgrades for those two facilities.

Um so depending on how quick that can happen, maybe one to a couple weeks to have that.

And then we usually say about one month for the RFP process, um, depending on how long evaluations are and how many proposals there are.

There's usually a one or two week lead time after that, and then um the proposal would be um provided to the governing body for approval, and depending on how the timing of the agenda cut off, and if there's a fifth week, that can take four to six weeks.

So I would say probably I think Director Nemichek said like a three-month lag time, and I think that's pretty appropriate, and that's best case scenario.

So um that's uh kind of the RFP process once the contract's in place to go basically from a zero percent design to a hundred percent.

I think probably six to nine months is the best case scenario.

Um, it could take uh just depends on the firm and their their capabilities, and um, I'm not sure what uh the depth of the renovations are at the senior center, but um I would say probably a half a year is a pretty safe estimate, but Director Nemichek might have a little more insight into that, being more familiar with the project.

And TJ, what's your workload now?

How long would it take you to get to this RFP?

Uh Mayor, there's always lots of stuff in the hopper, but we can always make things a priority and make things happen as quick as we need to do them.

Okay.

Ms.

Nemichek.

I would just like to add one thing, Vicky Nemichek Public Works.

We have already asked Plan One to put together prices.

Now those prices are public.

No, I was gonna bring that up.

That's a problem because now everybody knows what plan one's prices are.

Um this is the price of these things is in is counted when it comes to uh the RFP process.

So I just wanted to mention that as well.

Thank you.

Dr.

Mr.

Mayor, Director Nemecek just made the point I was gonna do to me by going it out for bid once plan one's bids and estimates are made public.

I think it taints the entire process.

I think that um and you know, Miss Mr.

Battleboard may have an opinion on that too, since he deals with this all the time.

But again, I would say if the shoe was on the other foot and this happened to the individual complaining where their figures were put out to public, and then we said, no, let's go out to bid.

I think they'd be incensed.

So as it is, I think we're really getting in opening a can of worms that maybe is better not opened.

Okay, anybody else?

Sir, did you?

Oh, I'm sorry.

Okay, no problem.

All right.

So we have a motion before us to um approve a contract modification um with um or architectural firm.

All those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Those opposed.

Oh okay.

I see the hands of the nose.

Mr.

Wolf, Mr.

Moody, Mr.

Uh Laphorn, and Dr.

Aldridge.

The uh Ken.

Yes.

Okay, the contract modification is approved.

Next item is number 26A on page five.

Appointment of Andy Michelson to the public transit advisory advisory board.

All right, I don't get to vote on appointments that I make, but I would take a motion.

So move.

Dr.

Aldridge and Mr.

Seagrave.

All those in favor of the appointment, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Those opposed, the appointment is approved.

Voucher report.

So anybody in the audience or on the governing body that would like to speak to the vouchers.

Next item, please.

Revenue report.

Same thing.

Anybody in the audience or on the governing body that would like to speak to the revenue report.

Next item, please.

Announcement of a public hearing to be held April 13th, 2026 at 6 p.m.

in city council chambers 2101 O'Neill Avenue, Cheyenne, Wyoming, and via electronic conference meeting to determine whether compliance of annexation conditions requested by Wyoming statute 15-1-402 exists for about 1,259,000.

Sorry, 1,259.91 acres of land located west of Round Top Road and adjacent to Happy Jack Road.

Other business.

Oh, you got it right.

I had my finger on top of it.

All right, other businesses.

Is anybody in the audience here today to speak to us under other business?

Mr.

Johnson, you have three minutes.

Oh, she I got you, brother.

Okay.

So sorry, Matt.

Um, so anyways, all right.

So under other business.

So uh one thing I wanted to let you guys know about is um habitat for humanity for the month of March is uh currently uh at Wagon Hound uh winery in the uh Heinz building.

And so Jackson has been kind enough for the month of March to um for a party flight.

20% of the proceeds go uh to habitat towards the Blitz project uh that's about to take place here, you know, in the next couple of months.

So if when he's open, if you guys could go down there, get a party flight to assist Habitat for Humanity.

Also, in case I'm sure most of you have probably got it in your inboxes already.

Um Ashley may have sent out um invites, you know, for the blitz build for election or you know, uh elected officials to you know come speak, you know, or excuse me, not to come speak, but to actually come work, you know, and yeah, you guys talk enough.

Um so do I, three minutes.

So yeah, if you guys could um get with Ashley at Habitat, you know, to make sure that uh you guys are in on it to uh do the build.

And I don't know if they have the schedule posted.

Um then some things that I've just been kind of watching.

Mark, it's fun to say, you know, Microsoft and Magpul and everybody uh, you know, may have some excess fees tell you're looking a family in the face that's died under a pu or uh an emergency.

That's no fun.

So I always you know when you name big corporations when later down the line uh families are in your face asking, you know, why you happen you're like, well, Microsoft had a five thousand dollar bill, so I'm sorry your your kid died.

So always be careful.

I'm just that's just a little political philosophy that I learned the hard way because I always put my foot in my mouth.

Um another thing that um comes up is I wanted to tell uh when Michelle made the comment um two weeks ago about one individual saying that you know it wasn't unanimous that everybody was against the farm.

I was on social media and I wrote that you know I was in favor of the annexation, but they kind of just blew it off, you know.

And then when she said that, you know, the the chat went wild.

But I want to, you know, I have a I'm in a rare weird place.

Yes, I did lose an election, but when my voice actually sends an email to council, remember in 2024, I had over 3,000 supporters.

You know, that and my supporters were, you know, some of them were pretty straight laced, but for the most part, they were like me.

They thanks to Gunner, I look like Guy Fieri, you know, tonight.

So I'm sure you guys will all see Gunner's meme if he hasn't already texted you that today.

But no, but I just want to, you know, it you know.

What's that?

Did you lose a bet?

I'm just bored.

Okay.

Um, it'll be silver in two weeks.

I'm gonna look like you so anyways.

So I I just want to tell you that it's it I listened to the commentary that came through with um with the farm fresh and stuff.

And and when everybody's just like, nobody's here to speak on this, nobody's here to speak on this.

So I always still do like litmus tests through my you know, my coworkers just to see where everybody's at in the community.

And guess what?

Like I don't know what you're talking about.

You know, they they don't follow this stuff.

And you have to remember that the only time they really do is at an election.

And so, you know, you can always talk like that all these people are, you know, you know, out there, the silent majority.

If you go back to like Nixon in the 70s or Moonbeam, um, sorry.

So when it goes to that, but you always have to remember that there's more people out there that vote that may not think like everybody that's screaming at the microphone, and that includes me, because I don't know where I'm at half the time, especially when I'm dying my hair.

But I did, you know, the really reason I wanted to come up here is I was like, don't forget that you represent the entire community, you know, even if they don't agree with you, or maybe uh sometimes they do.

But really, my um point under other businesses, I really do hope you guys will uh get with Ashley for Habitat and start um, you know, getting that set up and so because it's gonna be a lot of fun.

This is the biggest build that they've ever done over there on Story Boulevard.

So yep.

I hope I can count on you guys to support and you know, help me like Jeff and Mark have in the past doing you know, siding.

So it's super fun.

You learn a lot of on the job tools, you meet a lot of really nice people.

And this one's gonna be one of the biggest ones.

If any of you know any sponsors, you know, for like um, you know, coffee in the morning type stuff like that, you know, reach out.

So thank you guys once again for your time.

Thanks, Richard.

Good to see you tonight.

Anyone else want to speak under other business?

Anyone online?

Okay, how about from the governing body?

Dr.

Aldrich.

Um, Mary Collins for you.

I just wanted to uh give a shout out to the Cheyenne Animal Shelter.

This last Saturday they held a uh vaccination clinic at South High School.

Um it started at 10 a.m.

They had people starting to line up at 8 a.m.

People waited in line for three hours um to get their pets back vaccinated.

They vaccinated over 293 pets.

Um and it was underwritten by the uh Cheyenne Animal Shelter Foundation.

So um just wanted to give a shout out to their staff and to Doc Tess and the folks that worked on that um immunization clinic.

I think that uh it shows that there's a huge demand in our community for um people that want to do right by their pets and are looking for affordable ways to do that through the these vaccine clinics.

Um and I would hope that um my colleagues would uh support as well.

I'm sure the community will the whiskered event that will be held on uh in April uh to benefit the Cheyenne Animal Shelter Foundation.

So um just a shout out to the folks that are working hard to keep um the pets in our community safe as well as the folks that own those pets.

Mr.

Moody.

Oh, thank you, Mr.

Mayor, through you.

Uh thank you everybody for your public comments.

I just want to say for next week, welcome uh Shin Young back to our community.

You know, really great show.

I'm looking excited to see it.

And also uh happy Passover and a happy Easter uh next week too.

Thank you.

Anyone else?

Mr.

Seagrave.

Thank you, sir.

I want to say a huge shout out to all of our staff.

The last two weeks we've gone through unbelievable um issues with the wind that has occurred.

Um I want to say thank you to everybody that's out there cutting up trees, uh putting up uh safety barriers.

Uh I know our police responded to three or four times the number of calls, as did our firefighters, but it doesn't stop there.

It goes to the accounting department that that does the extra payroll.

It it runs through the entire organization.

And honestly, um the way everybody responded is just amazing.

It truly is.

And I just want to say a great thank you to all of you.

I appreciate it very much.

I was looking at my note because our CRE director sent me a couple of things that I wanted to talk about.

Um on top of all of that, we had uh the state gymnastics championships.

We had the start of high school softball.

We had a couple of shows at the Civic Center.

I mean, it was amazing um how those teams and all of our teams pulled together um to make sure the city was safe and uh and that we got back to normal and uh the kids got to do their their state championships and uh and their competitions, and it's just uh um something that makes us all proud.

So thank you very much.

Anyone else?

All right, with nothing else on our agenda, we're adjourned.

Uh we're gonna make about five minutes to uh rearround our uh our tables here, and then we'll start uh some negotiations with our fire union.

So thank you all for being here.