Recording in progress.

Jennifer, are you guys ready back there?

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.

I would like to call the July twenty-seventh meeting of the governing body to order and ask the clerk to take the roll.

Mr.

Leborn?

Here.

Mr.

Moody?

Here.

Dr.

Rennie?

Present.

Mr.

Seagrave.

Present.

Mr.

White.

Present.

Mr.

Wolf?

Dr.

Aldrich?

Present.

Mayor Collins?

Here.

Dr.

Emmons?

Mr.

Escobel?

Here.

All members are present.

We do have a quorum.

Would you please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance?

Consent agenda.

All agenda items listed with the designation of CA are considered to be routine items by the governing body and will be enacted by one motion.

There will be no separate discussion on these items unless a member of the governing body so requests and support by two other members is received.

Any item removed from the consent agenda will be considered in its normal sequence on the agenda.

Hearing none, I would entertain a motion.

No.

The consent agenda is approved with Mr.

Laborne voting.

No.

Number six ordinance, second reading annexing to the city of Cheyenne, Wyoming, land west around Top Road and south of Happy Jack Road.

All right.

Yes, I do.

And what's next to it?

Um the King Ranch, I believe.

And is that the round top area?

That's gonna be annexed next to it.

I just don't want it to be a little keyhole that says, oh, we just got enough to get that area in.

Yes, I am.

No, ma'am, I don't believe it has any contiguity to what's it's it's south of Happy Jack Road.

Okay, so I'm just checking that.

So you can give you can give those people on the Cox Ranch a guarantee.

That it's just not a little keyhole to slip in there.

I can't give them a guarantee that it'll never be that the Cox Ranch won't be annexed, but I can tell you this has no contiguity to the Cox Ranch.

Okay.

I'm just just checking.

I'm just asking for that.

Can I have I'll get it on online.

Thank you very much.

Anybody else in the audience?

All right, hearing none.

Don't help me if it's a Bartimus Smith, you can go ahead.

Um Charles Miller.

Sorry about that.

Can you hear me?

We can.

Um I just joined a little bit late here.

Uh what item are we on here?

You know, that's not my job to help you with that, Mr.

Miller.

If you have a comment on the item that was read in by the clerk, I would love to hear it.

Oh, I thought that was your job.

I'm sorry.

Um, I think if somebody wants to make comment on public record, sir, they would be following along.

Madam Clerk, would you be able to assist me uh to let me know what item that we're on?

Do you have a comment, Mr.

Miller?

I'm sorry, I uh this is in regards to the 34 acres.

Um, I believe.

Uh let's see here.

All right.

Mr.

Miller, do you have a comment?

Uh yes, I do, sir.

I'm just uh I'm trying to pull up my my notes here.

And uh I'm hoping that I got the right uh agenda item.

I joined the meeting meeting late here.

Mr.

Miller, honestly, if you want to make a public comment, we're here to take it.

But you've got to be prepared, sir.

All right.

Doesn't sound like Mr.

Miller has a comment.

Is there anybody else in the audience?

Hearing none, Dr.

Aldridge.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the public services committee is to approve on second reading, and I so move.

Second.

Seconded by Mr.

Seagrave.

Comments from the members of governing body on the annexation.

Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Aye.

And those opposed?

No.

The annexation is approved on second reading with Mr.

Moody voting no.

Number seven ordinance, second reading, amending the official zoning map of the city of Cheyenne, establishing the zoning classification of BP business park for land annexed to the city of Cheyenne, located west around Top Road and south of Happy Jack Road.

All right.

This, as I've may said many times, when you annex a piece of property, state law says we have to give it a city zone.

And this effort is to match the underlining county zone district, which I believe in this case would be uh business park.

Go out to the audience.

Is anybody in the audience want to speak to item number seven?

Jennifer, who do you have?

Mr.

Miller, you can go ahead.

Can you hear me?

We can hear you.

Um I just find it a little bit uh strange that my last comment was Mr.

Mr.

Miller, do you have a comment on item number seven, sir?

Yes, I do.

We'd like to hear it, sir.

Have I got uh three minutes?

Is that correct?

You've already wasted about 30 seconds of it, but go ahead.

Okay.

Um this is uh item number seven.

The uh this is this is the business is this the business park designation uh regarding this 34-acre tract.

Mr.

Miller, do you have a comment, sir?

Yes, yes, I do.

I just was trying to confirm where we're at here.

I I apologize.

Uh is that something you can do.

Mr.

Miller, we're looking forward to your comments, sir.

Mr.

Miller, if you don't have a comment, I'm gonna move on.

Uh I do have a comment.

Well, let's get to it then.

Just give me a moment here.

I I apologize.

Um let's see here.

Mr.

Miller, in the future, I'm gonna tell you this.

If you're not ready, I'm gonna move on, okay?

Well, if somebody has their notes and they're shuffling them in front of you at the podium, you're not going to be uh tearing them away from the podium, is that correct?

If they're if they're doing what you're doing, I am, sir.

So let's go.

Oh.

Oh, I see.

Um, if uh if you could just uh go ahead and and uh reflect that Mayor Collins deliberately bypassed my microphone access on item number six while I was organizing my notes.

Uh this is a documented continuation of the viewpoint discrimination and procedural suppression executive under the border, sir.

Do you have something to say on the on the zoning ordinance before us?

Uh the appellate record will note the intentional exclusion of public order.

Is there anybody else?

Hearing none, Dr.

Aldrich.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the public services committee is to approve on second reading, and I so move second.

Seconded by Dr.

Emmons.

Comments on the establishment of the zone by members of the governing body.

Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Aye, and those opposed.

No.

The uh zone uh district establishment is approved with Mr.

Moody voting no.

Next next item is number nine on page two.

Resolution authorizing the mayor to execute a memorandum of understanding with participating counties, cities, and towns regarding the allocation of impact assistance funds associated with the Laramie Range Wind Project application before the Industrial Sighting Council.

All right, we'll go out to the audience.

Is anybody in the audience want to speak to this item?

Good evening, ma'am.

Good evening, Mayor and members of council.

Wendy Volk.

Um I have some handouts, if I may, pass them out, Mayor, with your permission.

Yes, ma'am.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Did you make enough Wendy for the clerk also?

Yes.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

There should be additional copies, uh, Mr.

Mayor that will come through.

Thank you, Councilman Emmons.

My name is Wendy Vulcan.

Thank you for the opportunity to speak.

I recognize that the question before you tonight is not whether the Laramie Range Wind Project should be approved.

That decision rests with the Laramie County Commissioners and the Wyoming Industrial Sighting Council.

Instead, your responsibility is to determine whether the proposed memorandum of understanding appropriately reflects Cheyenne's anticipated construction related impacts in the city's share of available impact assistance funding.

According to the resolution before you, the proposed project would generate up to 650 megawatts, occupy approximately 41,220 acres or approximately 64 square miles, and employ up to 305 construction workers for approximately two years.

The scale of the project alone demonstrates why a careful and well-documented documented cost analysis is important.

Please keep in mind the City of Cheyenne occupies approximately 24 square miles.

This project is in fact three times the size of City of Cheyenne, and it bumps up against two other projects that have been approved in Albany County that's of similar scale.

It's about 26,000 acres.

And then also the Chugwater project.

So these three projects, if they all come to fruition, will occupy over a hundred thousand, I mean a hundred square miles, and will occupy an unprecedented level of energy development that will take place at the same time as the other developments that have been before you.

The city's own Belvoir Ranch Master Plan recognizes that large-scale land use requires thoughtful, comprehensive planning because multiple public interests, including transportation, recreation, utilities, and natural resources, and future development must be considered together.

That same planning philosophy should guide how construction related public costs are estimated.

You'll look at what the city has and the county in Laramie County, there's five industrial scale wind projects, and that's on the black handout that has approximately 175 yellow dots that represent each wind turbine.

These are all directly west of Cheyenne, within five miles outside of Cheyenne limits.

And so those are the existing five industrial wind projects.

The second handout that's on 11 by 17 is the Laramie Range project.

So it shows you where this is in relationship to Cheyenne.

And it shows you its bumps up against Horse Creek Road in the Horse Creek community.

That's where our family's ranch is.

But if you continue Horse Creek Road, that takes you up to Chugwater.

And that is also going to be a shared corridor with the Chugwater Energy Project.

So we have also, as a community, participated in impact funding discussions on the Chugwater project.

I don't know if we did that with the Albany County Rail Tie Project, which will be from Laramie going to Fort Collins on Road 287.

So you can see rail tie on that map.

And again, I wish there existed, I wish a map existed that could depict the scale.

But industrial siding does not have this map.

And this is as good as it is going to get.

But my questions before you are practical ones.

How is the city's estimated impact assistant amount of approximately 700,000 developed?

Which city departments participated in preparing that estimate?

What assumptions were made regarding police, fire protection, emergency response, traffic management, engineering, public works, legal services, inspections, administrative staff time, equipment, utilities, and other municipal services.

When I refer to cumulative impacts, I am referring specifically to construction related costs.

If multiple large industrial projects are occurring in the region during similar time frames, did the city evaluate whether overlapping construction activity could create identifiable additional costs for Cheyenne?

For example.

Thank you.

So the handout has all those questions enumerated.

But I just want to tell you, Mayor, thank you for the opportunity.

And I just think we have never seen this scale of development happening in the next three years.

We don't have the housing or the infrastructure in place for what about to happen.

And thank you for your time.

Appreciate you, ma'am.

Thank you.

Yes, ma'am.

Mr.

Miller, you can go ahead.

Can you hear me?

I can hear you, Mr.

Miller.

Okay.

For the permanent administrative record, Charles Miller.

I am auditing item number nine, the memorandum of understanding for impact assistance funds regarding the Laramie Range Wind Project.

I want the public record to reflect the profound financial and procedural hypocrisy of this MOU when compared to what this Council executed exactly 14 days ago.

Tonight you are aggressively leveraging the Wyoming Industrial Sighting Act.

You are using the State's cost of service model to extract $700,000 in impact funds from a wind energy project.

A project, as Councilman Moody astutely pointed out in the Finance Committee, that the Laramie County Commissioners already rejected in September of 2025.

You are demanding this money to mitigate the strain that industrial development places on our local infrastructure.

Yet, on July 13th, when you annexed the 3,500 acre Microsoft Highlands tract, the largest industrial expansion in the history of Cheyenne, you intentionally bypassed this exact same Industrial Sighting Act.

You hid behind an informational void, claiming the data center designs were too theoretical to measure.

By bypassing the ISA from Microsoft, you willingly surrendered millions of dollars in guaranteed State mandated impact assistance funds.

Funds that the State would have legally required Microsoft to pay to this city for road degradation, emergency services, and water infrastructure.

Why is this administration weaponizing the Industrial Sighting Act to squeeze $700,000 out of a wind farm the county doesn't even want, while simultaneously granting a trillion dollar tech monopoly free pass from those exact same statutory impact assessments?

You cannot selectively enforce state industrial regulations based on which corporation is sitting across the table.

This is regulatory favoritism that borders on fiduciary negligence.

Thank you.

Jennifer, do you have anyone else?

Anyone else in the audience want to speak to item number nine?

Mr.

Lyle, you need to turn that microphone on and lift it up so that it points out you're there.

Sorry.

Yeah, I'm Richard Lyle.

I live in Ward 2.

And I am concerned that this MOU is to divvy up impact funds coming in from this project, but it does not talk about divvying up the taxpayers' financial responsibility after about 20 or 25 years when the project needs to be decommissioned and returned to the slight uh return to what it uh was before the uh project.

And I haven't seen any uh uh discussions of that.

And I haven't seen any uh uh discussions of that, and it's gonna cost quite a bit of money to decommission these things.

Um Mr.

Lyle, I can tell you, Dr.

Alders and I just met with the DEQ just uh an hour ago, and um as part of the Industrial Siding Council process, they're required to have a bond to bring it back to the way it was before if they decommission it.

Um what's before us now is if that happens, uh if in fact they do get a permission to to build it uh to help mitigate during the construction of the project the cost to the community.

Um so I appreciate what you're saying.

You have a follow-up on that.

The blades of the uh windmill are um are they planning to just bury them in the ground?

Or they do they have a method to um recycle them?

Because Mr.

Lau, that's beyond our our our comprehension here.

If the Industrial Siding Council were to approve that, that might be part of their conditions.

But what we're saying here is if the Industrial Siding Council approves it, what do we think the impacts to us would be during the cost the time of construction?

And we're asking for funds from the State of Wyoming to help mitigate those that time frame.

Those questions should be given to the Industrial Siding Council.

They're the ones making that decision, not us.

We we we have no say in whether it gets permitted or not.

All we're all we're doing is that if it does get permitted, what are the impacts to the city of Cheyenne and would the State help us mitigate some of those?

And I think we have identified around $700,000 worth of impact.

Yeah.

So is when you divvy up the uh funds, is there going to be any um division of financial responsibility amongst the different governmental agencies when you sit down and negotiate with them?

And that's what the Industrial Siding Council do.

Each agency will go to the Industrial Siding Council and ask for funds, they will make that determination as to whether or not they should be funded.

Thank you.

That is my concern, and I uh just wanted to voice that.

Good to see you, sir.

Anyone else?

All right, hearing none.

This is Mr.

Escobel.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the Finance Committee is to adopt an I saw move.

Second.

Executive by Mr.

Seagraph.

Comments from members of the governing body on the MOU.

Dr.

Emerson, did you have one?

Yeah.

Go ahead.

Um Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

So is there a uh a document somewhere that does talk about how we got to the 700,000, or is that a formula that we use from the State?

We'll have Mr.

Brody talk about it, but we've it's uh a formula we have used a few times.

Go ahead.

Uh Mr.

Mayor John Brody, City Attorney.

Uh presently we don't have the finalized tables for um that number.

Um what I could offer is if you go back to the past um ISC hearings that we have participated in, we use the same metrics, the same application of that cost of service index approach.

So you could get a, I think a good sense of how we come up with those numbers.

Um in fact, if if you'd like Dr.

Emmons, uh through you, Mayor, I'd be happy to share um our past filings with the Commission with you uh so you can get a sense um of what that process looks like, and certainly when we finalize the tables for this uh current project, happy to share those with anybody on council as well.

Mr.

Wolf.

Uh-huh.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor, through you.

Um just uh follow up on the Councilwoman Emma's um questions.

Um and I and I just want to make clear, I mean this what we're doing tonight is not approving the any kind of final MOU.

You're still working in that, I understand, Mr.

Mayor and the City Attorney.

Um and so in the in that context, um, particularly the questions from Ms.

Folk are very pertinent.

Um I would encourage um you, uh Ms.

Volk, to talk to our City Attorney about this, because this isn't uh finished product at this point at all.

Um there's still uh a lot of work and analysis to go in it.

And your questions um I think are are really directly related to how we should analyze this and and how we've done this in the past and whether or not that kind of analysis is continues to be appropriate, particularly in light of um uh the concerns that that you raise with all of the other major wind projects going on, not to mention, of course, all the other huge construction projects that we have going on in this community and in the county.

So I I appreciate you coming coming forward and bringing that and um and uh those those concerns seem to me are very valid.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Mr.

Labourne.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

This goes directly to a lot of concern that we hear and we've heard tonight as to the differences between the Industrial Siding Commission and the responsibility of the City Council in this municipality in regard to this.

And I think it's time that we really got some good information here about the origin of the Industrial Sighting Commission and the whole concept there.

And the fact that, as I understand it, and I hope I'm not I want to see the documents.

And I I believe it's very clear that we don't have a choice to do the same thing that the Industrial Siding Commission has in regard to development within the city limits.

That's a completely different issue.

And it is one that when you're talking about massive amounts of money and the impact, certainly we need some clarity on that whole issue because we just heard a moment ago some accusations that we passed up the opportunity to seek mitigation funds, which which we did in a way, but there is no responsibility there.

There is no such action by a municipality in regard to a economic development within the city limits.

So that's a really important distinction that I think we need to clear up because it seems to come up over and over again.

Thank you.

Mr.

Seagriff.

Mr.

Mayor, very briefly.

Uh addressing Mr.

Miller's comments.

This particular project is not within the city limits.

It's outside of the city limits, but it could have significant impact upon the city through all the various entities that were listed.

Whereas the business park is within the city limits, it the folks that build in the business park pay development fees, uh you know application fees for all of the different projects.

And that is the way the city gets funded to implement the uh the departments that are affected.

So totally different apples and oranges, Mr.

Piller.

Thank you.

Anyone else on the uh MOU?

All right, hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Those opposed?

No.

Mr.

Moody's a no.

The resolution is adopted.

Number 10 resolution authorizing the mayor and the city clerk to sign a final plat for AH Park at Sweet Grass, City of Cheyenne, Laramie County, Wyoming, located south of East College Drive and west of Sweet Grass Drive.

All right.

We have 91.29 acres that will be split into six lots.

They will be recreationally oriented greenway and for future development.

And the main purpose of this plat is so that the folks who own the land can donate it for a recreational facility, or at least part of it to a recreational facility.

We'll go out to the audience and see if there's any comments.

Yes, ma'am.

Mr.

Miller, you can go ahead.

Can you hear me?

We can hear you.

Okay.

Um this says uh Mayor Collins, members of the City Council Charles Miller for the permanent administrative record.

Um item number 10, you are attempting to authorize.

Oh, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

Uh, sorry about that.

Uh, regarding agenda item number 10, the resolution authorizing the expedited final plat for the AH park at Sweetgrass.

While this body attempts to package this as a simple administrative dedication of parkland, let the appellate record reflect exactly what is occurring here.

You are executing a calculated ad hoc regulatory variance to bail out a developer who explicitly admitted on the public record that they do not have the capital to meet municipal law.

Under your own unified development code, developers are strictly mandated to provide a finalized development agreement backed by an infrastructure bond or certified check prior to the recording of a final plat.

This is a fundamental statutory firewall designed to protect the taxpayers of Cheyenne from being forced to subsidize incomplete public infrastructure.

Yet, during the July 20th Public Services Committee meeting, the applicant's agent openly confessed that they lack the revenue to construct the 7500 feet of road, water, and sewer required for this plat.

And what was this committee's response to a developer failing to meet the financial prerequisites of the UDC?

You did not enforce the law.

You altered it.

You actively colluded with the applicant to strip away the mandatory prior to recording requirement, recklessly kicking the financial assurances down the road to a vague prior to development action phase.

Furthermore, your own planning staff memo explicitly confirms that you are granting an arbitrary exception because the developer's perimeter blocks fail to meet mandatory block size requirements.

Let me be absolutely clear.

Approving an expedited subdivision plat while simultaneously waiving mandatory infrastructure bonds and granting block size exceptions is a quasi-judicial act.

It requires maximum empirical scrutiny.

You cannot legally execute these waivers simply because a developer claims it as not feasible to build it today.

By passing item 10 without the statutorily required financial assurances in place, right now you are exposing the city to massive financial liability in establishing an arbitrary and capricious baseline for every future subdivision in Laramie County.

You are manufacturing a structurally defective entitlement on an absolute evidentiary void.

The fiduciary contradiction is permanently logged.

I demand a no vote.

Govern yourselves accordingly.

Jennifer, do you have anyone else?

How about any else in the audience?

All right, hearing none, uh, we'll go over to Dr.

Aldridge.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the public services committee is to adopt with staff recommendations number one and two B, and I so move.

Second second.

Is that Mr.

Wolf?

Yes.

Mr.

Mayor, I move to amend uh staff recommendations to add number three A to read prior to development action, a plan for installation of all necessary public and private improvements be in place and assurance by bond or certified check or a development agreement or other written legal obligations be approved by the city.

The development agreement shall be drafted by the applicant and reviewed and agreed upon by the planning and development director and the city engineer.

Second.

All right.

That was seconded by Dr.

Emmons.

We'll go back out to the audience.

Maybe Mr.

Miller wants to apologize.

Hearing none.

How about from the governing body?

All right.

On the substitute, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Those opposed.

The substitute is adopted, and we're back on the main motion.

Comments from members of the governing body.

Mr.

Mayor.

Yes.

Through you, I just wanted to point out that when we've been doing our town halls, listening sessions, a lot of public comment.

Lots of residents from the sweet grass area specifically wanted assurances that something like this, a project specifically like this to take place.

So I'm happy we're able to uh bring that to them.

Thank you.

Anyone else from the governing body?

Hearing none.

All those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Those opposed.

The uh final plat is adopted as amended.

Next item is 12A on page three.

Consideration of bid number S-22-26 for a contract between the City of Cheyenne and Legacy Construction Group for the Christensen Road Detention Erosion Mitigation Project.

All right, we'll go out to the audience.

Is anybody want to speak to this consideration of bid?

All right, hearing none.

Mr.

Escobel.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the Finance Committee is to approve in an amount not to exceed.

$314,950.

And I so move.

Second by Mr.

Moody.

Mr.

Escobel.

Mr.

Mayor, I move to postpone until August 10th, 2026 meeting of the governing body.

Second.

Seconded by Mr.

Seagrave.

The reason for the postponement is we're still working with the Union Pacific Railroad on some requirements that they would want to put into this project.

Anybody in the audience want to speak to that?

Jennifer.

Mr.

Miller.

Mr.

Miller, are you there?

Can you hear me?

We can.

Yeah, I I actually had my hand raised for 12A, but I guess now you're just on the On the postponement, sir.

So I'll go ahead and and uh defer back to you guys.

Thank you.

Anyone else in the audience?

Hearing none, how about from the governing body?

All right.

All those in favor of the postponement, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Those opposed?

The postponement till August 10th is approved.

Next items number 12 C consideration of bid number S S 24-26 for a contract between the City of Cheyenne and Bone Dry Commercial Roofing Inc.

for the 2026 various roof replacements project.

All right.

We'll go out to the audience.

Does anybody want to talk to us under this consideration of bid?

Jennifer.

Mr.

Miller, you can go ahead.

Charles Miller for the record.

I'm just wondering, can you describe this project a little bit at length, please?

Ms.

Nimichek.

Hello.

I don't know, Vicki, did you hear the start of the question?

Thank you, ma'am.

Vicki Nemichek Public Works, through you, Mayor.

This project is to uh is to fix some various roofs, make some repairs on various roofs.

Uh those roofs are here.

Pine uh are listed.

Let's see.

I maybe should have brought Steve up instead.

I could drag him up if you want.

The George Cox parking structure over the elevator and stair stair towers, there are two sections.

The spiker parking structure over the elevator tower and the mechanical section near the restroom, two sections.

The ICE and Events Center over the rear mechanical section, one section.

The records retention building, the Pioneer Park Center, lower roof, and the street and alley shop lower section.

These were from wind and hail damage?

Hail damage.

Mr.

Miller?

Can you guys still can you guys still hear me?

Yes.

Oh, okay.

Did you hear that explanation?

Yeah, so this is 283,130, and it's to bone drag commercial roofing.

Um let the appellate record reflect exactly how this administration hemorrhages local taxpayer capital.

You're bleeding over $78,000 from the optional uh optional uh the $200,000 in state distributions and warm insurance payouts to subsidize six municipal roof replacements.

But instead of keeping that capital within the local economy, your own facilities manager confirmed on the live microphone that you are funneling over a quarter of a million dollars out of state to a corporate vendor headquartered in Fort Collins, Colorado.

During the July 21st Finance Committee meeting, a citizen explicitly stood at the podium to question whether these out-of-state contractors were even properly licensed before uh submitting bids to this municipal municipality and demanded to know why local Cheyenne roofing contractors were being bypassed.

Councilman Moody rightfully recognized this structural defect and actively voted no on this contracting committee.

Yet the rest of this body is perfectly willing to push this expenditure forward on an absolute evidentiary void.

You continually demand that the citizens of Laramie County subsidize your deferred infrastructure liabilities, but when it comes time to execute the capital capital, you enrich out-of-state corporations while ignoring the very local businesses that fund your 1 percent sales tax to begin with.

This represents a complete abdication of your fiduciary duty and a deeply flawed municipal procurement process.

I demand a no vote on item 12C.

Thank you.

Mr.

Miller, you realize we have to follow state law, right?

And the state law says that uh uh in-state uh contractors get a 5 percent um I'm not sure the word I'm looking for, but uh uh uh what do you call it?

Preference.

Preference.

I knew there was a word for it.

I was gonna say bonus, but I knew that was wrong.

Preference.

Um in this situation, the uh out of state contractor uh was actually more than five percent less, meaning that uh the taxpayers of Cheyenne and as you said, the one percent sales tax, the state distribution, Wyoming Association of Risk Management Insurance Company is uh why it's disappointing to all of us that we're not finding a local contractor.

We have to follow the state law.

And the state law says we have to give it to the lowest responsive bidder, and there's a 5 percent preference for in-state, and uh so we have to follow the law.

Sometimes it's disappointing.

Anybody?

Hearing none, Mr.

Escobel.

Oh, I was there somebody else?

I had a question.

Well, why don't we wait till we get to the council?

Okay.

We'll get a motion first.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation on the finance committee is to accept a bid and the amount not to exceed 383,130.

And I saw a move.

That's been seconded by Mr.

Wolf.

Doctor.

Mayor Collins, through you.

Can we just confirm that this contractor has been vetted and is licensed to do business in Cheyenne?

Ms.

Nimitchek.

Vicky Nemit check public works through you, Mayor.

Yes, this contractor has been vetted and is licensed in this in Wyoming.

Mr.

Escobel, would you remind me again that the dollar amount that you just made the motion for?

283,130 dollars.

Thank you, sir.

That's correct.

I just misunder misheard it.

Thank you.

All right.

Anybody on the uh governing body want to speak to this consideration of bid.

Dr.

Emmons.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Through you.

I I would just like to have on the record that this body doesn't demand anything.

I we are demanded of quite often it appears, it feels like, but I just wanted to make sure that Mr.

Miller realizes we do not demand anything of anybody.

So thank you.

Any comments from the governing body?

Mr.

Seagriff?

Mr.

Mayor might be a little bit off subject that has to do with roofing.

I seem to recall that we had some pretty significant wind damage to the to the depot.

Is that under a separate process?

Oh, I didn't hear it as one of the buildings involved.

I know it's not, but Mr.

Geer.

That is under a different the repairs were done under a different contract through Warm.

Um later you'll see uh a contract to replace the entire roof.

It's that end of life, and that will be coming this winter.

Okay.

Thank you very much.

Thank you, Mr.

Gere.

Just real quick.

Mr.

Moody.

Yep, thank you, Mr.

Mayor, through you.

I'll still be a no no vote.

I understand state law on that just out of principle.

I'd rather see one of our local contractors do or even a Wyoming company understand the state law.

Definitely something we need to talk to our legislators about.

Thank you.

Mr.

Mayor.

Dr.

Rennie.

Didn't we take an oath to uphold state law?

I believe we did, sir.

We raised our hand and said that.

Anybody else?

All right, hearing none.

The consideration of bid for the roofs, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Those opposed?

Mr.

Moody is a no.

The uh bid is approved.

Next item is number 12H on page four.

Consideration to purchase between the City of Cheyenne and Samsara for camera hardware and software for Cheyenne Transit Program Transit Vehicles.

All right, is there anybody in the audience want to speak to this item?

Hearing none, Mr.

Escobel.

Oh.

Jennifer.

Mr.

Miller, you can go ahead.

Can you hear me?

Yes.

Charles Miller for the record.

I'm I'm just wondering could could you describe this project a little bit at length?

Mr.

Mayor, Vicky, the TJ is online.

Are you going to take it, Vicky?

Mr.

Bartleboard, are you going to take this one?

And also I was wondering, uh it seems my block continues to run.

I I was wondering if that's something that could be paused.

Nope.

Ms.

Nimichek, you want to take it?

Well, I might as well then speak my piece here.

Uh it seems like you're getting you're trying to execute a 133,044 and 72 cent contract with some SARA Inc., a corporate vendor headquartered in San Francisco, California for a 36-month software and hardware license.

Let the appellate record reflect exactly how this administration treats municipal procurement protocols.

Your own purchasing manager's memo explicitly admits that this is being executed as a single source purchase, and therefore absolutely zero competitive bids were requested.

You are deliberately bypassing standard statutory bidding laws to funnel over six figures of public transit capital directly to a pre-selected corporate vendor.

By waiving the competitive bidding process, you are operating in an absolute evidentiary void.

How can you empirically prove to the taxpayers of Laramie County that $130,000 $33,000 for transit cameras is the most fiscally responsible option when you intentionally refused to let the free market compete for the contract?

You cannot.

Furthermore, you are willing you're you are willingly binding the city to boilerplate corporate terms that subject the taxpayers to a 1.5% per month late fee.

If your own faulty government operations cause a payment delay, you hemorrhage public funds through single source corporate handouts while actively avoiding the very baseline market telemetry designed to protect the public purse.

This expenditure is arbitrary, capricious, and structurally defective.

Thank you.

Anybody else in the audience want to speak to this item?

Mr.

Escobel, may we have a motion, please?

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the Finance Committee is to approve an amount not to exceed 133,000 and 443,000 forty-four dollars and seventy-two cents.

Second.

Seconded by Mr.

Seagrave.

Comments from members of the governing body.

Mr.

Mayor.

Dr.

Rainey.

I'm sorry that Ms.

Nimichek sat down because I was hoping she or TJ could explain how it was that we ended up deciding that the SemSara product was the fit fit our needs better than any other system out there.

Ms.

Nemichek, thank you.

You're getting your steps in, ma'am.

I am.

Vicky Nemichek Public Works through you, Mayor.

This uh Samsera is a the uh company that we currently deal with.

Um they already provide the the hardware and software that we use and will continue to use.

This is a new contract for this to move forward with the same system that we already have installed in all of our buses.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Any other questions from members of the governing body?

Ms.

Dr.

Rennie.

Yeah, Mr.

Mayor to miss through you to Ms.

Nimichek.

How long have we used the SAMSERA system then?

Vicky Nimichek, uh public works through you, Mayor.

I wish I knew, but I know we've had I'm sorry that Ms.

Johnson, the manager is um out uh of the city and she's on a cruise, so she is not able to be here to answer that question.

I can find out for you.

But we have had uh cameras in the buses for as long as I've been the public works director and before.

Okay.

And I presume that Mr.

Mayor, I presume they've functioned well for the city, and that's why we've stayed with this system.

Through you, Mayor, that's correct.

And this is, I know I'm asking for an estimate or a guess, but if we were to change systems, I presume that would be more expensive for us.

Through you, Mayor, absolutely.

Significantly more expensive.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Comments from members of the governing body.

All right, hearing none, all those in favor of the purchase, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Those opposed?

The consideration to purchase is approved with Mr.

Moody voting no.

Number 12i consideration of RFP number six-26 for a contract between the City of Cheyenne and FCI constructors of Wyoming for the construction manager at risk services for Cheyenne municipal building renovation and potential city council building and second floor municipal court renovation.

All right.

Anyone in the audience want to speak to this uh contract?

Jennifer Mr.

Miller, you can talk.

Um Yeah, I uh Charles Miller for the record.

I I uh I was just wondering uh again if if this could be discussed a little bit at length in terms of like a description of of the of the project and Mr.

Miller, do you have a comment on the contract, sir?

Yeah, I'm just um I'm wondering if you guys might be able to describe it.

Mr.

Miller, it's in the packet and it was discussed during committee.

Um we'd love to hear your comments if you have any.

Um, yeah, of course.

Um so I I believe probably there's a lot a lot of viewers right now that that don't necessarily get the opportunity to view all of the the packets and everything you guys put out.

That's kind of why I was asking if you could um you know go a little bit into detail there.

Um the let me see here, one moment.

Mr.

Miller, do you have a comment or do I need to move on?

Uh I certainly do have a comment here uh you're authorizing a $30,000 contract for construction manager at risk pre-construction services for the Cheyenne municipal building renovation.

Um let the record reflect exactly what kind of procedural maneuver this administration is executing.

During the July 21st Finance Committee meeting, a citizen stood at this very at the podium there and c uh correctly identified the structural defect in this contract.

It is entirely premature.

You are rushing to execute a pre-construction services contract before the architectural plans, subcontractor bids, and final cost estimates are even finalized.

You're attempting to legally bind this municipality to an open-ended construction management framework on an absolute evidentiary void.

You do not possess the requisite technical telemetry or a guaranteed maximum price to justify locking into a specific vendor tonight.

You are substituting standard municipal design build procurement laws with a fluid, we'll figure out the markup later approach.

Furthermore, the sheer fiduciary sadism of this action was exposed when Councilman Moody was forced to ask what happens to this contract if the sixpenny tax fails to pass at the ballot box.

You are deploying general fund and specific purpose option tax capital without even securing the long-term financial baseline required to actually construct the building.

This action is arbitrary, capricious, and mathematically reckless.

You are operating outside of standard municipal procurement realities.

The fiduciary contradiction is permanently logged.

The administration administrative record is now closed.

Demand a no vote.

Govern yourselves accordingly.

Thank you.

Anyone else in the audience?

You know, uh, I'm thinking back to uh our last six penny, was it 2021?

We asked the uh the voters, I think it was for 2.25 million dollars to design this the remodel of this building.

And as part of that, we wanted to hire a construction manager to help us with the value engineering to make sure what we design is buildable and it's built to be built in the most affordable way to do that.

And so we asked for uh as part of what we asked the voters for uh five years ago um uh to add some expertise to make sure we're doing that correctly.

Um so I believe, sir, we're following exactly what uh we told the voters we would do in 2021.

All right.

So here nobody else in the audience will go to Mr.

Escabel for a motion.

Mr.

Mayor, the recommendation of the Finance Committee is to approve an amount not to exceed $30,000 for pre-construction services.

And I saw a move.

I was seconded by Mr.

Wolf.

Questions or comments from members of the governing body.

Yes, sir.

Dr.

Aldrich.

Mayor Collins for you.

I am um just curious as to why we um don't have a clause in here that makes this contingent upon a um positive outcome of the six-penny ballot.

Dr.

Alders, I think we wanted to uh get a a uh a design completed, and that's not a contingent upon no August 18th vote.

That was uh part of the vote we did in November of 2021.

And I believe that that's what we're trying to do here is to um get the the background work to make sure this thing is designed and buildable and use this uh construction manager to help with that uh um I don't know what we call it negotiation, but uh to complement our design team to make sure that we do that correctly.

Um then we'll have complete plans.

Um and if it doesn't pass on the August 18th, at least we'll have the plans ready to go in a buildable state so we can move on in the future.

I think we have to do it sometime, whether that's um immediately or in the near future.

We're just trying to make sure what we design is the most buildable.

If that makes sense.

Thank you, Mayor.

I just think it's important for people to understand that this is um a construction manager that is uh performing uh pre-construction activities for us, not construction activities for us, and that that's why this is not um premature.

Thank you, ma'am.

I agree.

Mr.

White.

And just to um piggyback on Dr.

Aldrich's um question.

The money that we're spending is being spent from the money that we collected from that ballot initiative.

So we're not spending any new money.

It's money that's been collected already.

And was designated for design.

And was designated for this purpose.

Yep.

Dr.

Emmons.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

I wonder um to address Mr.

Miller's concern if we might have the city clerk um share how the site where people can get materials online prior to the meetings Madam Clerk.

Uh Mr.

Mayor, through you, Kylie Sodon City Clerk.

So on the City of Cheyenne website, www.cheyencity.org on the front page there is an icon that is agenda city council agenda meeting information.

And if you click on that link straight from the main page, all of the um council agenda packet information is available.

And that is available online the Friday prior to a meeting.

Thank you.

Thank you, Dr.

Emmett.

Mr.

Wolfe.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Through you.

I just want to express my deep concern that Mr.

Miller's comments are totally off pace.

We had an extensive discussion of this at the Finance Committee.

We uh we asked uh about uh the company that's being hired, uh FCI, um who have a uh extraordinary reputation for doing really high quality work and building uh large number of buildings within the State of Wyoming.

Um Mr.

Miller denigrates this process, but frankly, this process is designed to make a better building to provide engineering expertise at the very beginning of the process, so that we can in fact get the people who are who are going to build the building and their expertise embedded into the whole design process.

So we have we have done in my judgment everything you could responsibly do to take on such a such a significant project, and this is just one aspect of it.

It's just what prudent governments, prudent businesses would do in a case like this.

And I, for one, appreciate the the work that uh Ms.

Navchak and her department have put into this, and um it certainly uh deserves to be uh approved by us.

Thank you.

Mr.

Seeger, did you have a comment?

Okay.

Any other comments from members of the governing body on this contract?

Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Those opposed.

Mr.

Moody is a no, the construction manager at risk contract is approved.

Next item is number 14A on page five.

Appointment of Stephen Hanlon to the Historic Preservation Board and Gavin Lobmeyer to the Board of Adjustment.

All right.

So move.

Second.

I have some comments, Mr.

Mayor.

Mr.

Moody.

Thank you.

Mr.

Mayor, through you.

Um I looked up uh both these people are being appointed.

The uh person for the Board of Adjustment is actually currently running for office right now.

And my concern is gets elected won't be able to serve out that whole term.

So that is why I am against this, and I'll vote no on 148.

Thank you.

Dr.

Aldrich?

Uh Mayor Collins, through you for as a point of uh information.

Um I had had a conversation with Planning Director Bloom, and um knew that there was going that they were looking at that uh exact topic that anyone who was uh currently running for office um they were delaying any appointment of those individuals so that that would not occur.

And so I think we might confirm with um Mr.

Bloom that that's the case.

I am not aware, and I I stay pretty well on top of this that Gavin Lobmeyer is a candidate for the City Council I didn't think so.

And is that disqualifying for being on the Board of Adjustments?

No.

Absolutely not.

Okay.

All right.

Any other comments from members of the governing body?

All right, hearing none.

All those in favor of the appointments, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Those opposed?

Mr.

Moody is a no.

The appointments are approved.

Number 14B, voucher report.

All right, is there anybody who wanted to speak to the vouchers either um in the audience or on the governing body?

Jennifer.

Mr.

Miller, you can go ahead.

Can you hear me?

We can hear you.

All right.

Um, Mr.

Miller, do you have a comment?

I certainly do.

Sorry, there's uh a gigantic pile of of paperwork I'm having to shuffle through if you can imagine that.

No, I can't.

Um so in regards to the uh Charles Miller for the record, uh in regards to the voucher report.

Um earlier uh there was exposed multimillion dollar liability insurance payouts.

Um, but the structural defects uh hidden in this $6.6 million ledger go much deeper.

You wave your hands about needing the six penny tax to survive, yet you treat the public treasury as an endless slush fund for tech integrations and botanical aesthetics.

Tonight you are quietly paying spare labs in here.

Uh I'm sorry, one moment.

I just I just lost it here.

Um Mr.

Miller, are you finished?

Yep.

I apologize.

Nope.

I I still still uh still on here.

Uh spare labs.

Let's see here.

Uh Mr.

Miller, I think it's disrespectful to the council to not be prepared when you ask for the floor, sir.

So are you prepared?

I apologize.

I got three minutes here, and it seems to have been a good thing.

It's got three minutes to waste, sir.

We're here to take your comments.

And if you're not prepared, I'm going to move on.

Um Wyoming associates uh $1 million and 21,000 $732.

Uh for your uh $869,623 for your property assessment and $48,441 for cyber coverage.

You're bleeding over two million dollars simply to ensure against your own faulty government operations and structural liabilities.

Second, you are you forced rate hikes on the citizens of Cheyenne.

Um beg for federal hand handouts to fix toxic lead pipes, claiming municipal insolvency, yet you seamlessly manifest 160,123 to bighorn contracting for arbitrary renovations alongside tens of thousands of dollars to the design studio for greenhouse head house and historic pump house architectural aesthetics.

You prioritize the expired, thank you, sir.

Mr.

Miller, your time is up.

Thank you.

Mr.

Mayor.

Yes.

I just want to point up uh and correct me if I'm wrong, but for the workout at the Arboretum, those came out of state funds that were given to us as grants.

Of course they were.

They were it was a grant from the state of Wyoming to do this project.

This was not the city's funds that we were spending.

It was money given to us by the state directly for the arboreism.

And we can't spend them on anything else.

They were given to us only for the arboretum purposes.

But it doesn't make the money.

So Mr.

Miller, if you're listening, we'll accept your apology at any point.

Anybody else in the audience?

Thank you.

How about from the governing body?

All right.

Next item is the revenue report.

Anybody in the governing body or in the audience when you speak to revenue?

Hearing none.

Other business.

Good evening.

Good evening, Mr.

Mayor.

Jimmy Churro, candidate for Ward 1.

I just want to go and um make a couple of comments to kind of recap some of the things from tonight.

Definitely want to go and commend uh Mr.

Cobb for taking care of some of the curbing that was downtown at the train depot and that.

Uh all the departments.

I probably saw street sweepers coming by twice a week throughout the entire city, including my neighborhood as well.

Uh we had a record uh attendance for CFD this year, which is great.

Um I hope it continues.

I hope that we uh continue to manage that, bringing in the business on that.

Uh as all you know, I'm usually here every single meeting.

Every single meeting.

And my hat's off to you guys because there's some difficult decisions you guys have to make.

You do have to follow state law on things.

Recapping with some of the stuff with the annexation.

You and the your own lawyer has said that you may go and annex something.

Please keep that in consideration.

As Star Trek said with Spock, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

We shouldn't be chasing just after that that one little buck that's going to be only temporary for a few workers.

And then to leave on a good note there.

Umfortunately, I've noticed in the last two years.

Uh I have a criminal justice degree, and I care very deeply for the residents of the city.

And I've noticed a lot of what the crime going up.

I even brought up at one of the meetings, it was last summer that I saw Laramer, not Laramie, Larimer County Sheriff, drop it off homeless over there in Lincoln.

Please, for your 2027 budget, put in an increase for both pay and more officers for the uh City of Cheyenne PD.

What was that?

Thank you very much.

We missed you at church there.

Mr.

Mayor.

I was doing the rodeo.

Okay.

Anyone else?

Jennifer.

Mr.

Miller, you can go ahead.

Can you hear me?

Hello, can you hear me?

Yes.

For the permanent administrative record, Charles Miller.

Tonight, under the guise of routine municipal governance, this body has executed a master class in fiduciary negligence and procedural evasion.

You have pushed through unfunded paper streets, rubber stamped multimillion dollar corporate zoning to bypass the Industrial Siding Act and actively drained the sixpenny in general fund reserves for aesthetic out-of-state and unbid contracts.

But you are no longer operating in an information informational vacuum over the uh over the past time here.

Uh my architectural framework has logged every unforced error on this dais.

Every time a microphone was intentionally bypassed, every time a finding of fact was ignored on a quasi-judicial vote.

And every time you hid behind the legislative shield to launder a corporate entitlement.

The system registered a fatal procedural defect.

This is no longer a localized civic dispute.

By enforcing a pattern of practice that systemically violates procedural due process, and by actively engaging in viewpoint discrimination to silence objective empirical data, you have stripped away your own qualified immunity.

You have triggered federal liability under 42 USC Section 1983.

Data extracted from tonight's session will be compiled into a systemic risk report.

The report detailing specific unfunded infrastructure liabilities and your mounting constitutional tort exposure will be distributed directly to the casualty insurers and municipal bond underwriters who price the city's debt.

You assumed you could outspend, outweight, and gavel down a single citizen.

You failed to realize that your entire administrative apparatus is being reverse engineered by a machine speed intelligence network.

You have chosen corporate compliance over municipal law.

Thank you.

Anybody else in the audience?

How about from the governing body?

Mr.

Secret.

Mr.

Mayor, I I would also like to thank your entire city staff for their outstanding work.

Not just the last two or three weeks, but really throughout the year.

Virtually every department was impacted.

And uh they all did outstanding.

Really appreciate that.

We did receive a letter in the last week uh questioning why the city chooses to support Frontier Days.

And it's it's for all of us.

It's for our businesses.

It was it was a ri an original creation of the Chamber of Commerce.

It was a part of the Chamber of Commerce to bring businesses to the community for decades before it became its own independent nonprofit.

Um honestly, I don't think I don't think there's any way they could put on an event that size or or any community, an event that size without the cooperation of the city uh departments.

So um hats off to all of you.

Appreciate it.

Job well done.

Um, a week off, and we start planning again, something like that.

Amen.

So thank you.

Mr.

White.

Mr.

Mayor, uh Ward 1 uh City Council reps will be holding uh council and coffee uh this Saturday at the Pioneer Park Rec Center at 9 a.m.

And uh just one I have one tidbit I wanted to mention in uh collaboration with what uh Mr.

Seagrav said.

I had a and part of my volunteering duties with uh Frontier Days, I help camera crews and some media that come in from out of town and really from all over the world to cover our event.

And I had a Denver uh television crew, Channel 4 out of Denver uh came up on the Wednesday pancake breakfast, and Channel 5 uh was broadcasting their whole morning show from uh the Depot Plaza, and they were setting up at 4 a.m.

So I had to be up there at 4 a.m.

And Jason's crew was already out cleaning the streets.

Uh I don't know what time they got there, but it was before 4 a.m.

And so just kudos to all the city staff, compliance, uh first responders, just everybody.

Uh my wife and I went to red clay strays.

There was a medical event in the stands that night, the Sunday night concert.

The first responders, PD fire EMTs were all over that.

That gentleman had a cardiac event uh uh and and lived.

Um so just it it uh it's a true partnership.

How we do this every year, I don't know, but uh I don't I have 355 days to think about it again.

So thanks to all the city staff.

Dr.

Aldridge.

Mary Collins for you.

I wanted to just echo uh what my colleagues from Ward 2 and Ward 1 said.

Um I think what the big thing to remember about our staff is that not only are they dealing with the extra work um that Frontier Days brings and the extra number of people in our community during that 10-day period, but they are continuing to maintain their current jobs as well.

Um just because Frontier Days happens doesn't mean that they're not still getting calls for compliance or for um that they don't have to take care of all of the other things they normally take care of.

So I really appreciate all of their efforts.

Dr.

Emmons.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Um I wanted to mention two different things.

One is my understanding is the is that the EMTs did at least two, if not three cardiac cases, which you know it there's a good chance if those people wouldn't have been here and those fire uh EMTs weren't there, those are three lives that are potentially lost.

So I just think that's amazing.

So thank you for that.

The other thing I wanted to do is thank Jennifer, recognize her for all her help with Frontier Days and getting us on wagons and not horses and in the right wagon at the right time, um, and a tremendous amount of work she did with that and continued to do her day job too.

So thank you for that.

Ms.

Bell.

Yeah, Mr.

Mayor, through you uh this year I heard one comment about Cheyenne that I hadn't heard a lot in the past, and that what a beautiful clean city this is.

So I guess our beautification efforts are being noticed.

I hear that a lot, sir, from people.

Anyone else?

I just want to make a quick comment also.

Um one of the great parts about being mayor is I get to uh spend a lot of time at Frontier Days.

I write in every parade, uh, every grand entry.

Uh I get to join people at the Pancake Breakfast.

Uh it is an amazingly fun and exhausting week for me.

And um, you know, uh maybe I just want to start off with the volunteers.

You know, I I flip pancakes on Wednesday with the Kwanians, and uh I don't know, there must have been 200 people there.

Is that about right?

And uh everybody knew that they know their jobs for decades now they've done this, and it's amazing to sp to feed 8,000 people in two hours.

Um and they're all volunteers.

And you go out to the park, and uh there's 2700 people who volunteer for Cheyenne Frontier Days, and then there's a ton of other groups that are out there doing other volunteer work.

Um I just can't tell how proud I am of of the city from that perspective.

And then everywhere I go at every one of those events, there are city employees that are there.

Um Jason's team, Eric's team, uh you name it, those people are there supporting those volunteers, um, making sure there's trash food containers uh from Vicky's team.

Um there's not a division or an agency in the city that's not part of it, whether it's the clerk's office, making sure that everybody's properly licensed.

Um, I it is just I mean, uh there's very few places I think in in the this country um that could do what Cheyenne Frontier Days does with the with the team we have here at the city with the volunteers on the 130 years of volunteerism that we have.

Uh it is really something that makes me proud.

And I just want to say to uh to to our whole community, but especially to our city staff, thank you.

Um it was uh it was a great uh a great time.

I show up to the parade, all the barricades are already up, all the volunteers are already standing at the corners, right?

Uh the carriages are all there, the people who rode the horses down so that we could get on the carriage.

Um the street sweepers cleaning up at the end of it.

I mean, it is amazing.

Police officers everywhere, uh making sure that we're safe.

Uh firefighters in case something happens.

Um it is it is a spectacular thing.

And it's just as of the 10 days, this happens year-round.

I mean, Christmas praise, you name it.

Um, our community volunteers that helps with it.

So um thank you all for everything you do.

Um it doesn't go unnoticed.

Thank you.

Anyone else?

Thank you.

We are adjourned.