0:00Cesar Reyes on December 8th, 2024.
0:05I will be presiding over today's proceedings.
0:07This review is being held because the Clark County District Attorney's Office has made the preliminary determination that no criminal prosecution of the offers officers involved in the death of Caesar Reyes is appropriate.
0:19Clark County Ordinance Chapter 2.12 requires public review following such a determination.
0:27The purposes of today's proceedings is to present the public with essential facts surrounding the death of Mr.
0:34Chief Deputy District Attorney Pan Reckerly is will present today's fact-finding review on behalf of the district attorney's office and will determine the witness or witnesses to be called.
0:44The ordinance does not provide subpoena power on my behalf and does not allow for any other party to call witnesses.
0:50Willard Ewing has been appointed as the embudsman.
0:53He represents the public and the Reyes family.
0:56He will have the opportunity to ask questions of the witness or witnesses.
1:01The procedure for questioning witnesses shall be informal with a view of providing the public with relevant information regarding the use of force in this case.
1:09The rules of evidence shall not be strictly enforced.
1:12Members of the public observing this review may submit proposed written questions on the forms located in the back of this room and present it to any of the officers.
1:22I will ask the question unless I determine that it is irrelevant, redundant, or an abuse of the review process.
1:27At the conclusion of this review, no formal determination regarding the manner or debt cause of death shall be rendered.
1:34Additionally, the following material that may be presented can contain graphic images or language.
1:42Viewer discretion is advised.
1:44Does anybody have anything to add?
1:49The state uh or the state calls Andrew Evans.
1:53And sir, how are you employed?
1:56With the force investigation team of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department.
1:59What is the force investigation team?
2:02We investigate officer involved shootings in custody deaths and violent crimes against police officers.
2:06Were you the primary officer investigating an officer involved shooting on December the 8th of 2024?
2:14Can you describe where uh in Clark County that shooting took place?
2:18The shooting took place inside of a hotel off um South Las Vegas Boulevard and Silverado Ranch.
2:24And who was the subject officer?
2:27The subject officer was Officer Zach Adam.
2:30He was hired in January of 2006.
2:32At the time of the incident, he was 45 years old, assigned to SWAT.
2:36His body worn camera was not activated.
2:38However, his partner had a camera mounted to their helmet, which was placed on the floor next to their position.
2:46Officer Adam did provide a walkthrough, which we'll go through later, and he did not provide a statement to fit.
2:51What was the weapon involved?
2:53His weapon was a Laru tactical LT10 rifle as a 308, and the investigation revealed he fired one round.
3:00And were there witness officers?
3:03Yes, the witness officers were Sergeant Dixon, Officer Bunting, Officer Lee, and Officer Nord.
3:09And what can you tell us about the decedent in this case?
3:12The decedent was Caesar Reyes II.
3:16He was from California, and had he survived, he would have been charged with assault on protected person with deadly weapon, two counts, and resisting a public officer with a firearm.
3:25Did the decedent have weapons?
3:28He was armed with a Winchester shotgun, which wasn't unloaded at the time of the incident, and an unloaded Glock 26, 9mm.
3:36What were the findings at autopsy?
3:39The autopsy was conducted by Dr.
3:41Simons on December 9th, 2024.
3:44The cause of death was a perforating gunshot wound of the head, the manner of death homicide, and additional injuries noted were self-inflicted lacerations to the forearms.
3:53Toxicology screening showed uh alcohol and caffeine in his system.
3:58Can you walk us through the timeline of how this event unfolded?
4:03Yes, so on December 6, 2024, Reyes was arrested in California for possession of child pornography.
4:09On December 7th, 2024, he was bailed out of jail by his family, and he was entered into NCIC as a missing person, possibly suicidal, and armed with a handgun and shotgun.
4:20The family found out that he had checked into a hotel in Las Vegas.
4:24On December 7th, at 1705 hours, an attempt suicide call was created.
4:29The family advised security at the hotel that Reyes left a suicide note and his firearms were missing.
4:34Family members traced his credit card activity to the hotel.
4:39At 1706, security advised that they attempted to contact Reyes at the room, but it was locked from the inside with the latch.
4:47While security was at the door, they heard a gun rack from inside the room.
4:51At 1715, officers arrived on property and met with security who advised that Reyes was the only person in the room.
5:00At 1920, SWAT and crisis negotiators arrived.
5:02At 1936, negotiators obtained a search warrant.
5:06At 2016, negotiators began using a PA system for Reyes to exit the room.
5:11Reyes was also called on a cell phone and the room phone, but there was no answer.
5:15At 20, 26 hours, officer learned that Reyes had walked into the hotel room earlier in the day carrying a long black bag.
5:23At 2153, SWAT attempted to place a camera under the door, but it did not fit.
5:28An explosive breach was placed on the room door.
5:30SWAT advised Reyes to stay away from the door.
5:33At 2155, the explosive breach was deployed.
5:36Reyes ran out of the room with the shotgun in hand, and the shot fired was broadcasted.
5:40At 2156, the TAC medic and tech doctor assessed Reyes, and he was pronounced deceased at 2158.
5:47Was contact made with civilian witnesses?
5:51Civilian witness was a casino security officer identified as BP.
5:56He went to the room for a welfare check of a suicidal guest.
5:59Reyes' uncle had called security and said that Reyes left a suicide note and may have weapons with him.
6:05BP knocked on the room door three times, but there was no answer.
6:08BP used a master key to open the door, but the door was latched from the inside.
6:12BP called Reyes' name, but there was no response.
6:15BP heard a pistol rack inside the room and backed away from the door.
6:19BP took cover down the hallway and security dispatch called the police.
6:23BP was able to observe and monitor the hotel room door until police arrived and confirmed with officers that nobody entered or exited the room.
6:30Was there any video from the casino?
6:33Yes, this video is from the hotel elevator.
6:37It shows Reyes going up to his room with the long black bag.
7:08Can you walk us through the evidence at the scene?
7:12Yes, this is a diagram of the scene.
7:14The star on the bottom depicts where Officer Adam was positioned.
7:18The red square on the top is Reyes' room.
7:21The robot next to the red square is the tactical robot that was deployed to assist SWAT and the negotiators.
7:31Officer Adam to the room was about 176 feet.
7:34And then at the time of the OAS, Officer Adam to Reyes was about 33 feet, showing that Reyes ran approximately 143 feet towards Officer Adam.
7:43And does the robot have video itself?
7:46Yes, this video shows the breach deployed on the room, and then Reyes will come out, run towards the robot, he'll trip over the robot and then run the opposite direction down in the hallway towards Officer Adam.
8:23And was there body worn camera video?
8:27Please be advised to your discretion as advised with this next video.
8:33Again, this video is from Officer Nord, who was Officer Adams' partner.
8:37The camera was mounted to Officer Nord's helmet, which was placed on the floor next to their position.
8:43So Reyes' room is down the other end of the hallway.
8:47You'll see the breach go off, and then Reyes will run towards Officer Adam.
9:38This is a still shot of Officer Nord's body worn camera showing Reyes carrying the shotgun.
9:45Officer Nord was interviewed.
9:46He stated that he responded to a suicidal subject who was barricaded inside a hotel room of a casino.
9:52Prior to arriving, Officer Nord learned Reyes left a suicide note with his parents and Reyes' family called in a welfare check.
10:00SWAT also learned that Reyes was a current or prior juvenile probation officer known to be in possession of a shotgun and handgun.
10:06Officer Nord and his partner, Officer Adam were the first arriving snipers to provide cover for the entry team.
10:11SWAT formulated a plan to use an explosive breach to open Reyes' room.
10:15After the breach, Reyes exited the room holding a shotgun.
10:18Reyes tripped over a robot, then ran towards Officer Adam and Nord with a shotgun.
10:23Behind officers Adam and Nord were additional police and medical personnel.
10:27Officer Nord gave multiple commands for Reyes to drop the gun.
10:30Reyes shook his head indicating no.
10:32Reyes was approximately 10 yards away when Officer Adam discharged his rifle.
10:37If Reyes were to make it by the snipers, Ray would have Reyes would have access to other rooms and areas occupied by civilians on an extremely busy day.
10:46Officer Bunting was the TAC medic.
10:49He was assigned as the tactical emergency support officer for SWAT along with a volunteer tactical doctor.
10:55He stood with the doctor behind a SWAT sniper south of the suspect's location.
11:00He heard SWAT conduct a breach at the door, followed by a radio broadcast that Ray has exited the room and was running down the hall.
11:06An officer yelled dropped the gun multiple times, followed by a single gunshot.
11:10Officer Bunting and the doctor were advised it was safe to approach Reyes and provide medical care.
11:15Officer Bunting is observed a shotgun and handgun on the ground next to Reyes.
11:20Officer Bunting and the doctor checked vitals and determined Reyes was deceased.
11:24Due to conclusive signs that Reyes was deceased, no further medical aid was necessary.
11:28Were there officer walkthroughs done in this case?
11:32The purpose of the walkthrough is to assist crime scene analysts and detectives with developing an understanding of the scene, including identifying officers' locations at the time deadly force was used, identifying items of potential physical evidence, and recreating a timeline of the incident.
11:46Walkthroughs and statements conducted with the involved officer are voluntary.
11:51Officer Adam participated in a walkthrough, which was led by the attorney.
11:55The officer would ask a question, and officer Adam would confirm the question with the answer of yes.
12:01Officer Adam was assigned to a suicide call.
12:03Casino security approached Reyes' room and hurt a weapon rack.
12:06Officer Adam was positioned on the south end of the hallway.
12:09Negotiations with Reyes failed.
12:11Reyes would not talk.
12:12SWAT used an explosive breach on the room door.
12:15Reyes ran out of the room and tripped over the robot.
12:18Reyes sprinted towards Officer Adams' position carrying a shotgun.
12:21Officer Adam gave verbal commands to drop the weapon.
12:24Reyes did not drop the weapon and did not stop advancing towards Officer Adam.
12:27Officer Adam feared for the safety of his partner and himself.
12:31Can you walk us through the crime scene?
12:35This is a view from Officer Adam's position.
12:37The first circle on the bottom is the shotgun.
12:40The circle in the middle is the handgun and the circle and the door frame is where Officer Adam's bullet impacted the door frame.
12:49This is a closer look at where Officer Adams bullet impacted the door frame.
12:54This is where the robot was positioned after Reyes exited the room and the door to Reyes' hotel room.
13:02This is inside Reyes' hotel room.
13:05There was a knife found on the bed with the blade open and a box of razor blades also found on the bed.
13:13That concludes questioning from the state.
13:28As you're aware, my responsibility today as an ombudsman is to represent the public and also to pose questions that may have been requested by the family.
13:39And in this particular case, I did have an opportunity to speak to the family.
13:43And their specific questions are kind of interspersed in my questions I'm going to be asking you today.
13:50One of the first things you did today in your presentation was to kind of establish a timeline, correct?
13:57You indicated that Metro officers begin arriving around 517, which was about actually 1717, which is 517.
14:12Um, which was just about 12 minutes after they received the initial call from the South Point.
14:20Um they received information about a possible suicidal guest.
14:31And uh their first call course of action was to start to evacuate the 24th floor.
14:39And that took place or started around 612 p.m.
14:49And SWAT arrived a little less than an hour later.
15:00Um it looked like you obtained uh or Metro obtained a room search warrant at 7 36 p.m.
15:08And is that protocol to get your search warrant in order?
15:12Negotiators have a person on their team that is responsible to obtain any search warrants that might be necessary.
15:18And that was obtained, right?
15:21Uh your timeline on page 80 of your report indicates that SWAT was positioned in rooms 2419 and 2424 at about 801.
15:37That would have been 20 201 hours, is that right?
15:42And those two rooms were right next to the suspect's room?
15:46They were down the hall a little from the suspect room, not directly next to.
15:50And they were on either side, correct?
15:52And they were on either side of the room?
15:55And SWAT officers were were in in both of those rooms?
15:59Do you know if during the course of the incident those rooms were doors were opened so they could see the hallway?
16:12And also Officer Nord and Adam were positioned down by the elevator.
16:18And what was the reason why they were positioned by the elevator?
16:21Their assignment to SWAT or snipers, so they provide a longer range coverage for the officers that are going to make entry into the room if that's necessary.
16:32Was there any safety reasons or safety protocols that put them close to the elevator?
16:38That was the position that they determined to be the best for their assignment as a sniper.
16:45When you look at these kinds of barrier barricade possible suicide scenarios, is there a list of priorities that Metro has when they approach those kinds of situations?
17:06Preserve life of who?
17:10Would the public be first?
17:12Who would who would be who would be after the public?
17:16I don't I don't think you can rank the importance.
17:18I think everyone involved would be a priority.
17:22So I don't think it's fair to list them in an order of importance.
17:26Were you attempting to do all that you could to limit the scene to that floor?
17:35They had officers blocking stairwells to keep people from being able to go up or down the stairwell onto that floor, and then also the elevator base.
17:45So protecting the elevator was important?
17:52Officer Nord and Officer Adam were positioned by the elevator with one sniper rifle, right?
17:59They they are both snipers, so they rotate because they can't be actively working as a sniper for an extended period of time.
18:13So they spot for each other and they swap on and off.
18:16Is it safe to say that they had been on at their location for about three hours?
18:24They were there for several hours.
18:26Between the time they arrived and the time of the shooting, were they about there about three hours?
18:31And so they switched every how often would they switch?
18:35I don't know the time frame, but I know that they switched.
18:37And that was to prevent fatigue?
18:40It indicated in your in your uh report that the sniper rifle was equipped with a magnifier.
18:45Would that be a scope?
18:48Do you know if it's common to use a scope in a setting when you're a hotel hallway?
18:55Would that be common?
18:59Would they have the option option to take the magnifier off and go with maybe like the red dot sites or things like that?
19:05That would be their call.
19:07I'm not trained as a sniper, so I can't answer when and where they would use which tool.
19:12But that would be their decision?
19:19And your timeline indicated that Mr.
19:21Reyes room door was breached at 2154 or 9.54 p.m.
19:29And that he immediately ran out.
19:32Tripped over the robot and proceeded then towards Officer Norton Adam.
19:42Do you know which room he passed by in the still shots in your report?
19:46It shows him passing a room.
19:47Do you know which room that was?
19:55Do you know, and and clearly you have a picture of that?
20:00Did any officers in that room try to detain him or take him down or anything at that point in time?
20:04They didn't have the opportunity because he ran right by the room.
20:08So you're saying they didn't have time?
20:14So and then Reyes was unfortunately shot by Officer Adams at 9.55 or 2155 hours and pronounced deceased at 9.58.
20:39In this particular incident, there was only one shot fired, right?
20:43And that shot inflicted the injury to Mr.
20:46Reyes and also struck the door frame that you identified earlier.
21:03When officers are trained, whether it be regular officers or snipers, are they normally taint trained to shoot center mass if they're in a situation where they feel like they have no choice but to shoot?
21:16Their shoot to stop a threat and to shoot at the center of the target presented.
21:22During the course of your investigation and your interviews, um, were you able to get any information about why this particular situation ended up with a head shot?
21:33Officer Adam didn't give us a statement, so I didn't have the opportunity to ask him.
21:36So that would be speculation.
21:39Based upon your training experience, do you think that the fact that the magnifier or the scope was used could have had any effect on the location of that shot?
21:51I think it would make the shot more accurate.
21:56Did you ever have a chance to look through the scope and see what Officer Adams would have seen in terms of the of the hallway and the perspective when he actually fired the shot?
22:08I did not look through his scope, no.
22:09Is that something that you think could have been relevant?
22:12Um, because scopes are adjusted for the user.
22:18So his eyes are going to be different than mine.
22:21Would it be um kind of common practice for him to look through that scope at his target for lack of a better word, to make sure that he could see things correctly?
22:34I'm sorry, say that again.
22:37I guess my question is I'm trying I'm trying not to be vague here, but is it possible that the headshot resulted because the scope uh magnify things so much that it might have affected what he could actually see when he when he fired the shot?
22:54Again, he didn't provide a statement, so anything I answer as far as what he was aiming at or not aiming at or where he chose to shoot would be speculation.
23:26And therefore might have had some tactical firearms training.
23:31Would that have affected the way they did things?
23:35How would that have affected the way they did things?
23:37Um it would put the officers in a mindset of having a reason to believe that Reyes had above average training with the firearms and police tactics.
23:49You testified earlier that neither of the handguns were loaded.
23:55And you didn't find any ammunition in the bedroom?
24:02You talked a few minutes ago about uh negotiators, metro negotiators.
24:10Were negotiators involved in this case?
24:14Did negotiators or negotiators required to have continuous contact with Metro police officers on scene as they learned things?
24:25They're in contact with the SWAT commander.
24:28And who was the small who was the SWAT commander?
24:30Um I believe it was um trone that night were was the SWAT commander made aware that negotiators were in contact with Reyes' family during the during the event.
24:50And was that by phone and text, if you know?
24:53I don't know how they were in contact, but it's typical for them to contact um family members of subjects who are in this situation.
25:02And if they'd received information from the family by text or phone, would they have relayed that information to the SWAT commander?
25:24Quote, unquote, had no bullets.
25:26I don't know if the negotiators passed that information on or were aware of that.
25:31You don't have any information about that?
25:43Reyes been in Nevada?
25:45And I guess it was just a matter of hours, correct?
25:48Correct, based on the timeline, not very long.
25:51Does Metro have any way to do any kind of a database search and make a determination as to whether or not anybody had purchased ammunition on a given day or at a given time?
26:03Purchase of ammunition is not something that's tracked or available real time.
26:08So you don't have any information about whether or not Mr.
26:10Rezme had purchased ammunition in Nevada?
26:22Were negotiators and through negotiators, the SWAT commander aware that Reyes' family, including his mother, were actually driving to Las Vegas during the incident?
26:36I can't speak directly to what they were aware of.
26:39Do you have any information about that?
26:43If the family had been traveling from California to the scene, um is that something that would have been a factor for SWAT to consider with how they were going to proceed?
27:07It would have been a consideration, but not an ultimate decision changing consideration.
27:15Do they ever make the tactical decision or the I guess just the decision to wait for family to arrive so they may be part of the de-escalation process?
27:25It would be situation dependent.
27:28Was that something that was discussed at all as you were debriefing this case?
27:32It none of that came up in any of our interviews, no.
27:50Do you know if that was done in this case?
27:54If the those uh recordings were requested, would there be any reason why Metro wouldn't follow up and try to obtain them from the family so they could be utilized if the negotiators felt that that would be a useful tool, they would do that.
28:10And in this case, um Mr.
28:13Reyes while in his room was just it was he was silent, right?
28:16There he didn't do anything, say anything.
28:18They made several attempts to contact him by the room phone, by his cell phone, and then through a PA system, and they were getting no response from him.
28:27And do you have any indication how many times they tried to contact him during the three hours that they were there prior to the shooting?
28:34I don't have a specific number of times, but they were there for several hours attempting to contact him and they were getting no response.
28:41Were they hearing anything from inside the room?
28:50Are you aware, Detective, if um the negotiators were notified at 939 hours that the family was a mile away but stuck in traffic?
29:14I'm not aware of that.
29:15Did that ever come up during your debriefing?
29:18Were you aware um that they actually sent a text message that they arrived at the casino at 957, which would have been two minutes after the shot was fired?
29:30No, I'm not aware of that.
29:31And did that ever come so that did never came up in your debriefing?
29:35Would that be something that the negotiators would be expected to relay to the SWAT commander?
29:43Uh situational dependent.
29:53And this is a more of a specific family-related question, but how would you respond to the family if they if they asked you why you didn't wait for them?
30:02Again, I wasn't there.
30:04It wasn't me that waited or didn't wait.
30:07And ultimately the decisions are up to the supervisors and the leadership on scene.
30:14Again, they were there for hours.
30:16They were getting no response.
30:18They had a person barricaded in a hotel room in a very busy hotel with firearms.
30:25And as we established earlier, they were there for about three hours in between the time of the arrival and the time of the breach of the door, right?
30:32Is there any kind of a like?
30:39Maybe I'm thinking of the right word here, but uh a timeline that they try to follow in the situation, or they give them so much time before the next process or step would be a little bit more.
30:51Every situation is different and independent of each other.
30:56So the negotiators and the SWAT team needs to handle every situation differently.
31:03Um you could imagine it would be hard for the negotiators to negotiate with someone that isn't responding to them when you the breach ordered, when the breach of the room was ordered, what was the purpose for that?
31:18What was the what was the goal for breaching the door?
31:20They attempted several ways to um deploy a camera so that they can see in the room and um see what was going on in there.
31:30They were unable to do that.
31:32Um and then when the breach was deployed, it's to um try to enable some response to from the subject, and then it uh if the SWAT team does need to make entry for either life saving or to take him into custody, it makes them easier for them to get into the room.
31:50Was it the intention to send the robot in first?
31:54Was the intention to send the robot in first?
31:56Yes, typically they would send the robot in first to get a visual of the room before sending operators in.
32:03And is it safe to say, Detective, that Mr.
32:06Reyes ran out of the room almost instantaneously with the with the door being breached?
32:29In situations like this, where you've got a barricade situation and there's no hostages, or that you're aware of anyway, um, but you have information the individual may have one or two weapons.
32:43Are there ever situations where they would try Metro would try to deploy non-lethal methods to stop the perpetrator or the suspect?
32:52I think everyone would always prefer a non-lethal method, however, um in this case you have a subject running down the hallway with a firearm towards several police officers.
33:06And he actually let him run a very long distance down the hallway, they gave him ample opportunities to stop running and to drop the gun.
33:15Did they have any non-lethal uh implementations to use in that situation?
33:22They always have non-lethal options.
33:24Did they have anything like any beanbags or foam projectiles to shoot or anything like that?
33:28Yes, but based upon the situation in this particular case, um do you agree with their decision that those that wouldn't have been the right way to go?
33:40It's not my job to agree or disagree.
33:43We generate a fact-based report that we submit to the DA's office for a review, a use of force review and in does the type of weapon that the suspect has influence the decision as to whether or not non-lethal tactics may be employed?
34:10If it's a baseball bat, it may be different than if it's a shotgun.
34:28In um a typical training program or training experience of both police officers and SWAT um snipers, are there certain assumptions they make when it comes to firearms?
34:44In terms of is it drilled into them that they always have to assume that a guns are loaded?
34:51Yes, that that is the safest way to operate.
34:54Do they ever take it for granted or assume that a gun may be unloaded?
35:06I don't hear the questions.
35:08State any follow-up?
35:10Just a couple questions, please.
35:12Reyes had um two firearms with him.
35:17One's a shotgun and the other's a nine millimeter.
35:20Um, did he have another weapon in the hotel room as well?
35:26What else did what what else was in the hotel room on the bed besides the knife?
35:32Um on the bed, there was a guitar bag.
35:34On the nightstand next to the bed, there were several suicide notes.
35:39And after the breach, I think you told Mr.
35:45Reyes almost immediately exits the room.
35:49He wasn't directed to do so.
35:53And then he at that time is um holding the shotgun.
35:59And he as he's running down the hallway, officers are directing him uh to drop the gun.
36:08And I think you said that he he's able to uh kind of travel quite a distance.
36:14Can you give us an approximation of how far that was?
36:17Yes, we had that in the diagram.
36:20I think it was over.
36:23We can actually go back.
36:33So you can see he ran approximately a hundred and forty-three feet.
36:36Okay, and during that time they're directing him to drop the gun, and he does not.
36:42I have no other questions.
36:46Okay, at this time I'm gonna ask if there's any written questions submitted for from the public.
36:54Um this public fact finding review was held because of the Clark County District Attorney's Office made a preliminary determination that no criminal prosecution of the officers involved in the death of Cesar Reyes is appropriate.
37:08Clark County Ordinance Chapter 2.12 requires public review following such a determination.
37:13The purpose of today's hearing was to present the public with the essential facts surrounding the death of Cesar Reyes.
37:20Willard Ewing was appointed by the Clark County manager as the unbudsman to represent the public and the Reyes family.
37:29Ewing was given opportunity to ask questions to provide the public with relevant information regarding the use of force in this case.
37:48Prior to today's public review, the Clark County District Attorney's Office provided Mr.
37:53Ewing and myself copies of the law enforcement investigation regarding the death of Mr.
37:59The documents provided by the prosecution are considered public record.
38:03If you missed any portion of this review and would like to obtain a recorded transcript, a video of the entire proceeding is available on the Clark County website at W dot Clark County NV dot glove gov.
38:18That concludes the police faith fatality public fact finding review and the death of Caesar Reyes.
38:23Thank you, everybody.