Good evening everyone is 5 31.

We're gonna call this meeting to order.

Welcome to our December 3rd uh North Millwood Citizens Advisory Committee meeting.

Um my name is Nord Robinson.

I am the committee chair.

Uh I will ask that you all silence your phones, please.

Um we're gonna start with introductions to my left.

Hi, my name is Anna Nard, and hi and Mr.

Waterbury.

Awesome, thank you.

Marilyn Terman, I'm vice chair of most with the Clearwater Urban Leadership Co edition.

Awesome.

Thank you very much.

Um to our first order of business is the approval of last meetings of the minutes from last meeting.

Um please have a motion to accept.

Um yes.

Um just want to make one notation about it though.

Um regarding the um just involved money point to it, so you don't know.

Uh after the pages and on and on to actually make mention of that.

That's under 4.3, but there are very case number two.

Okay, that's the second.

I see it.

Yeah, it was regarding the uh budget, the budget that was submitted, and there were some concerns about how much advanced notice we got on that.

Yes, uh, and I just wanted to say that after which with further clarification uh with our chair that we were okay with that.

We know that it was approved by trustees.

Just wanted to make that notation.

So okay.

Thank you.

So with that being said, I will make a motion to approve awesome.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So the motion uh to accept uh came from Maryland Termin.

Cannot second.

The motion's been properly moved and seconded by Anna Menard.

Um is there any discussion?

So we need nine.

Um all in favor.

Awesome.

Thank you.

Uh approval of previous meeting legates.

Um let's go back to our agenda.

Um, so uh the third item on our uh on the agenda is uh citizens to be heard regarding items not on the agenda.

Um so this is an opportunity for anyone here to to speak up and say something.

Um I may ask that if you properly introduce yourself as you let us know is on your mind.

Good evening, mate.

Yes, ma'am.

My name is Barbara Silverdov and I'm the president of the Clearwater African American Foundation.

This is my first meeting.

And I've got this is my first meeting, and I have questions about the historic preservation of landmarks and spaces here in the North Greenwood area, and I want to know if it'll be interest when it's my question.

Awesome.

Thank you very much for your question.

So to date, they have not been discussed, but that is something that we can definitely be sure to add to our agenda.

Um, so if there are particular points that you would like for us to discuss, um, and would you would she submit that to you for the agenda?

Yes, okay, and send that to me, and then we can um talk with the chair getting it on the next meeting and uh do I submit it to you tonight or in an email?

In an email.

Okay, yes.

I will need a comment card from you for tonight.

Okay, yes, thank you.

Awesome.

Thank you very much.

Um does that answer your question.

You good?

Yes, I'm good.

Thank you.

Awesome.

Thank you.

Um, any other uh items to be brought forward.

Okay, thank you very much.

Seeing none, we will move on to the next item of our agenda.

Um, so under new business, uh, we are going to uh appoint the officers for the committee for this year.

Um so the first one we are going to go for is chair for the chair.

Boom.

So we're up here.

Uh board members and look at us just for the record.

So what you have before you are ballots to select members for the uh chair for the position of chair.

I would like to just briefly uh read the description.

It is in the CAC policies, but just for the record to describe the position of chair for the committee.

Um the share the chair shall uh have the authority to decide points of order and will run all agenda items.

Any ruling by the chair may be reserved by a majority vote of the CAC.

The chair self shall preserve order and may call to order any member who violates any of the rules.

They shall decide all questions of order subject to mature majority vote on a motion to appeal.

The chair shall recognize all members who speak the floor under the current procedure, and they shall not make four second a motion.

The chair shall maintain an effective working relationship with the CRA director designated liaison or representation.

The chair shall guide the CAC and its advisement of the community needs consistent with the North Greenwood CRA plan and state law to the CRA director designate the CRA trustees and the city.

From time to time, the chair or the CAC approved a designee shall be required to report updates to the CRA trustees and or city council.

I got any questions.

No.

Okay.

So if you could please make uh on your ballot just one ballot for uh your vote for position of chair for the North Greenwood Citizens Advisory Committee, this will be for the 2026 year.

And then we will have staff.

Okay, um we have uh votes.

So the position for chair for the uh 2026 year will be Kennard Robinson.

Thank you very much.

Good reach of the one.

All right, so moving on to uh the vice chair position.

Correct.

Yeah, but this one's a lot shorter.

Okay.

Uh so the vice chair will serve in the absence of the chair.

Uh, should the chair be unable to attend any meeting or need to accuse themselves from any vote that comes before the CAC, the vice chair will serve in that position.

So there are ballots in front of you.

Again, if you could please make one vote and then staff will collect votes.

Yeah, okay.

Position of vice chair has been appointed to for the 2026 year to Miss Maryland Turbin.

Awesome.

Congratulations.

Um awesome.

Well, thank you all very much.

Uh definitely looking forward to uh another phenomenal year um helping move our team forward.

Um moving from on to the next slide uh on our agenda is uh provide recommendation for negotiation of funding requests for 1105 called this feet.

So do we have yes?

We have Dylan Mayu here.

He is the city's housing manager, will provide um an update on this item.

The board.

Okay, this yes, I'm Dylan Navy, I'm the housing manager.

Um give a little brief update um on the uh on negotiations, but first I'll kind of give a little bit of history in October of 2023.

The community redevelopment agency purchased 1105 Carlton.

That's the parcels on the southeast quarter of MLK at Carlton Street for 350,000.

Well, the purchase price exceeded the independent appraised value.

Uh the acquisition was made as a proactive strategic investment to support redevelopment within the MLK corridor and encourage Catholic private investment in the area.

Following the acquisition, the CRA released a request for letters of interest to solicit proposals for the redevelopment of the existing mixed-use building located at 1105 Carlton Street.

This structure is approximately 2440 square feet.

The CRA's preference in the solicitation included proposals that would preserve the existing building, incorporate mixed use elements, and then also provide uh income restricted units.

The CRA received one response, those submitted by Tampa Bay Neighborhood Housing Services.

The CRA previously budgeted $500,000 for this project, and council authorized staff to enter into negotiations with TV AHS.

After a period of review, TBNHS has now provided an updated development package.

And that amount does exceed the originally budgeted level.

Given these revisions and this revised financial projection, the and the potential for this project to serve as a transformational investment.

Staff is requesting guidance from you all on uh how to uh proceed.

Specifically, we are seeking direction on whether the board would prefer to do one of the following.

Uh support the project at the revised funding level or recommend a different level of CRA participation uh if the current funding request is not acceptable.

Uh in summary, staff believes the proposed project has a strong potential to create positive neighborhood change that lines with CRA's vision for the corridor.

However, because the project now requires higher investment than originally uh anticipated, staff is requesting your budget.

With that, I do have uh developer trade corner with uh Tampa Housing Services.

I'd be happy to try.

So just to be sure that we're all understanding.

So you said that the original approval was over $500,000.

And now we're looking at $1.345, $200.

The original amount from the CRA was budgeted at $500,000.

The CRA's contribution would be $7001,852.

That's not on here, right?

Yes.

It's not, it's in the agenda item.

Um their original proposal have the city bringing more funds.

However, because we're using federal funds, we have to uh abide by HUD's guidelines.

And so the max for us at the city is 468,348 dollars.

That's for the two units upstairs.

If you subtract that off the city side and add it to the CRA side, that puts the CRA sign 701 852.

So essentially to progress with what they've with what they propose, we'd be looking at an additional 200,000 from CRA.

Thank you.

Frank, did you want to say?

Uh sure.

Uh Frank Cortier Tampa neighborhood housing streets.

Yeah.

Fine.

Yeah.

Oh shit.

Uh Cornier Temple Neighborhood Housing Service Bank African Opportunities V 40 Bay.

Uh we've been in the city or socialist area serving Creedwood and South Greenwood since uh 1979.

Um we are part of the national affiliation to the organization uh by the main vaporworks of America, which uh at the best communities would sell Greenwood.

Uh we're involved with community ethnomatic development, affordable housing, and um helping families uh get out of poverty and increase their um their wealth, the family wealth.

Um we uh had the opportunity to uh prepare a proposal for uh this property.

We're not unfamiliar with this type of work.

We've been doing this work for many years.

Uh we recently rehabbed our office as 60 greenwood.

It's a full rehab.

Uh this project was a lot more extensive.

Um, it's two stories.

It's also uh filled with structural issues that we could have at our uh our office.

Uh it would have been less costly to demolish this building and build something new, but we understand that the residents of this neighborhood wanted to keep that building because of its historic value and major and because we don't want North uh North Greenwood or North MOT.

So it looked like a war zone with a bunch of vacant, you know, lats where properties once stood.

So we put a proposal together.

Um the original year's report on this fact in 2023 was that it was going to cost a little over a million dollars.

Uh we know that the cost of everything just shot up since then.

Our numbers are based on estimates from our design professionals, but um we feel that we can keep um the numbers where they are and get the numbers to work with some valuable engineering.

Uh so we think we can we can make the the project work.

We are proposing to keep FrickScore as um as riffing space.

Uh we have a potential tenant uh that has expressed interest in running back space for office space, and then the upstairs would house two one-bedroom apartments.

Uh we know that there's a shortage of smaller units in North Greenwood.

Actually, Canela Stallion's whole smaller units are harder to come by.

Uh so we uh build quite a bit of three bedroom uh college to go to bath, but cross the ride.

We probably built most of them in this neighborhood recently.

Um, but there's a shortage of smaller use.

So they're proposing to build two blood beds and this um our design concept would incorporate uh what we would like to do is incorporate a balcony on the front lowest fronting onto um uh North Park Windsor King.

It wouldn't be a huge balcony, but it would be big enough so that it gives it uh a design element and gives us some trajectory on the truck so it's hot to scroll.

So um so you don't have any questions for V.

Well, Frank, could you maybe speak to just your vision or I guess a little bit more in depth of how the redevelopment doesn't just fit with the community from uh a visual perspective, right?

But maybe more of an at best yet.

Yeah, this this project wouldn't eye is with the academics, um, shotgun yarn.

Uh I don't know that there's been any new commercial space, and the city will probably correct me on this, uh, as well as as the residents.

There probably hasn't been anything new that's been built uh commercially on the in that area for quite a long time.

Um we know that it is a large amount of money to put into a building, uh, but we also know that the private market doesn't uh sometimes it takes a project like this to catalyze to get things started in the neighborhood.

So this investment would help start that, would help jump start the redevelopment process in this neighborhood.

We have other land that we own.

Uh we know that the COP has some space to look to develop theater product as well.

So this will add to that uh and it would just complement everything else.

The uh we look that the charette that was done a few years ago and incorporated some of the concepts of that.

Um and again, you know, this this will be a catalyst uh in this neighborhood, and it means we know for many many years, residents have been hearing we got your back, we put money to this, but nothing's been double.

So I think that this will help uh be a shot of the arm to say we're committed to doing this.

Um it has sparked other investment all the year.

I'm happy question to confirm.

Is that my address six weeks?

Just a moment.

Well, we we can open it up to the board for questions um first.

Um does anyone on the committee have any questions?

Uh you said you had somebody interested in the commercial space already.

Yes.

What kind of business is uh it's interesting or nonprofit.

Okay.

Okay.

Um I I do have a particular question just and this isn't necessarily directed towards Sprank, maybe anything there's a but I see here we have the rental property analysis and operating budget.

So how does how does this play a role in this body's decision making?

Are you just showing us this is the potential for it when you when it's finished?

Are some of these dollars coming back to the CRA?

Yes, this is this is the um so typically there's a development budget and then there's an operating uh an operating budget.

So when um when you're evaluating whether something is gonna be feasible, you definitely look at the development budget and see if the sources and uses you know uh offset each other if there's they're covered.

But you also want to make sure that you're putting money into a building that is now going to come back and say we need more money because we we can't operate, we're operating in the red.

So this this is to show that uh um that after collecting of bread the rent is enough to support the first mortgage that'll be on there, and still have I think uh positive cash of about 300.

Um but we also you know also take into consideration that uh this is gonna be one of the first uh commercial spaces, and um, you know, what and it's and it's a small property, it's only three units.

Okay.

So to put it simply once we were to approve this, if we do approve this, they're saying that the development starts, the project is finished, the way that the numbers are worked out on the on the rental property side will be enough to continue to fund the building and make sure everything is correct going the way that it needs to go.

So therefore, technically speaking, if everything goes well, you wouldn't need any more money from the CRA because the building is funding itself.

That's for essentially that's right.

Okay, I just want to be sure that it everyone was aware of these guys.

Okay, um any other thoughts, questions?

I sorry to dive deeper on the the nonprofit question, but like you know, that could mean various things.

Like what is it is it to help the community?

Is it uh like a food shelter?

You know, what kind of nonprofit uh is is basically community development.

Okay, yeah, it's it's a nonprofit that's already serving the community.

Okay, gotcha.

Okay.

They're already serving the community, they want to move closer to that that's great and be in here.

Okay, perfect.

So I do have one question.

How many square feet is the kind of space?

900 square feet.

The building is total of uh 1800 square feet, 900 square feet uh each each full.

I do just want to put Tom it was the 175.

That wasn't just saying this when we just received this to my seven the second spill here.

But 175 additional is what we're adding to it.

No, that would be the first one.

That would be um what's maybe you vote or reading my 500,000 CRA that is that's now seven.

It'll be at seven, seven oh one again.

The budget for the CRA as proposed would be 701 850.

Okay.

What page are you looking at?

Right here.

Okay.

Okay.

Thank you.

That's what I need to know.

We're gonna look at it because you have that number is on the agenda item, it's not in that package.

That's that's his uh submission.

Oh, gotcha.

So he submitted with the city the housing target homework money, but we're restricted uh by a per unit maximum subsidy, and so then that subsidies 468-348.

So if you adjust this the housing uh the city side and the CRA side accordingly, then that brings the CRA side up to 200,000, 2000.

Okay.

So uh but we don't have to put this out for rebid or anything like that because of the change that we're asking.

Okay.

Because like you mentioned you know, no, we have 500,000 budget already for improvements to the building plus the land of the building plus other wonderful stuff.

Uh but the 200,000 increase, then we're coming to say repeat that is uh why investment more so we can take it to the trustees for them to be to approve or not.

Okay, awesome.

Thank you.

Um are there any other questions from the committee points?

All right, so uh we're gonna take a moment to open it up to the community question for questions.

Um just a reminder, please be sure to fill out a comment card.

Um yeah, so are there any other you need to request a motion then second first and then you can open it up to the community.

All right, thank you very much.

Um where we are right now, we need a motion to approve.

So just for clarity, this would be a motion to recommend the increase or what is being proposed, which would be for the additional 201, 852 dollars over the CRA amount that we have budgeted by recommending approval, then staff will work to take this item forward to the CRA trustees um to enter into negotiations for clarity of what the motion um is being asked for for today's agenda item.

Thank you.

Do we have a motion?

Since I'm unable to strip, I'd like to defer to you guys you know, because you guys sound like you've had a little bit more history on this.

Um if I could I I'll make a motion that'll be any calling we'll forward the recommendation.

Other tests needs to come okay.

Okay, yeah, we'll hear those you okay.

Yeah, we'll definitely have time for more discussion.

Yeah.

Um do we have second.

Okay, the motion has been properly will be executed.

Um so now that we have that, we can open up the floor for any community questions or comments.

Do we have to give the talk first item for no you don't have to give the card first?

We can okay.

The property that he's speaking of local fire today.

I think you mentioned something about the historic value of that area.

Could you confirm that that is the old Robert Nichols Greenwood Sundricks?

It is you were you were gonna ask the question earlier.

Think about the address.

The the address is not 1105.

I think at one point to listen to one on vibe if it's on the record as an LK address.

Okay, so once the property is built, what will be there to not take or indicate that it is a historical landmark?

Yeah, that's a great question.

One of the things I've asked for is to see if there's old photos of the building.

So I reached out to the uh city's real estate department and reached out to uh solidly.

We need to get reached out to the historical society.

I've looked myself.

I find photos down the street, but I don't find any specific photos of this building.

I would love to find a photo of the still to showcase that in the building, and I would love to see if there's elements of that old building that we can incorporate into the regulation.

I haven't code wrong.

The surviving family members.

Not yet.

That hasn't been a recommendation, but uh uh I would love whatever recommendation or whatever uh context between has because it can't be allowed to be properly photos or see if the design is part of the run.

This isn't the design.

I did not think to out of coming carpet.

I can certainly think to that uh because for two years we worked with the family to get the property uh purchased by the city so that it did not we have to not have to compete with the developer for it for the project we're planning on that same space.

So I did reach out to the family uh contact to see if they in fact had uh any memorial photos or whatever, and they're in the process of uh time to locate that and after what you're awesome.

Thank you, R.

Any anyone else?

Yes, ma'am.

I have a question.

Um you said that the the downstairs is a business that's already in the community that wants to relocate.

So are you did then say how that is this the community part?

No, can you not if you're the name if you say they're already in a community?

Okay, we're already in this meeting and they're in this meeting as well.

It's clear water early or certain combus.

So I didn't want to say that they gave they gave permission to go ahead and yeah, I just want to know to as far as with them the benefit how can the community benefit right.

Are you familiar with the work uh uh clear water early to focusing guys?

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, so they it would be that anyone else.

Okay, saying I so yes, I exist.

There might be a point of order, so you might have to recuse yourself.

I'm not sure if there's a conflict there because of the entity that's going to entity typically to the first floor.

You will still have three individuals here to vote to I wouldn't no because Kennard would have to accuse himself because he's a part of the Tampa Bay neighborhood coalition or Tampa Bay Neighbor and Housing Services, and Miss Terman would have to accuse herself as well for being a member of the coalition, which means that I wouldn't have enough to make a vote for this item.

This seems like we um it's mostly likely to have consensus forward.

Yeah, so uh we have consensus.

We can take it forward to the CRA trustees.

Um but we we wouldn't have enough members to make a vote or miss course.

Okay, so at this point, does that end our conversation with that to the end?

Yes.

Okay.

All right, well, thank you, Greg.

Thank you.

Um so our next agenda item, the presentation of North Greenwood All-related District update is the uh Lauren Maskey, she's the city's planning and development director, and she'll be providing uh updates on the North Greenwood overlain extra in the end our maps will look better, but just got it done real quick.

Engineering says thank you taken from the CR.

Yeah, thank you.

Have to give extra except people have surrounded.

But I mean it's the one maybe stare background and why what are popular uh cool.

So hi, maybe me Lauren Matthew.

I'm director for planning and development.

Uh, when we started this project, I was not director of planning and development department.

I was assistant director, and we had several other people involved at the time.

So it's it's been a little while since I've been able to catch up with everyone, and unfortunately, due to storms last year and some other things going on in our department.

Um the work that we were doing was placed on hold for a little while.

And so I guess I should start with what is the work.

Not everyone in this room or even on the board has been involved with that.

So um our department worked on the CRA plan, which was adopted and everything got established in one of the next um implementation pieces of that was to develop new zoning um standards for the properties in the North Greenwood CRA that are not part of already the downtown zoning district.

So that's what's loosely shown on just that.

Um this area down here is in the CRA.

This this corner down here, it's in the CRA, but it's it's already governed by our downtown district.

So it would not be part of this.

Um we had worked through some of that with the community, and for those who participated, it was um just after memorial, not memory, Labor Day last year, um, that we had a really great meeting where we got to play with the model houses and buildings and map out sample blocks and and really kind of make sure that we were aware of the vision and we were really working towards achieving that vision of you know, new any new developments in the North Greenwood area.

Um what's unique is you have great lot structure, you know, some bones still here, and most of what you know the community voice to us that we've heard was you know, really some pieces that uh you know, really some infill pieces, some residential within the residential.

Um the term gets you sometimes missing middle housing, it's the you know, um single family homes, duplexes, triplexes, townhouses that still kind of smaller in scale to really match and fit in with the existing fabric of the community along Martin Luther King.

It was you know, it's better enabling the mixes of uses, more of a historic main street, and then we have kind of some of the other areas that they were part of the CRA, but then and part of working with a kind of broader or further out from the core of it, I would say, and it's got a slightly different character, but overall is primarily residential with some opportunity for some commercial or in building.

So that is unfortunately where we left off at the time because you know, fast forward a couple of weeks later, we had a few hurricanes.

So we we've regrouped as a team.

We've been working on the what the regulations are, right?

So what do we need to put in our community development code so now when new development happens, it actually matches what what we've heard from the residents that they want.

Um it's kind of a bureaucratic process once it gets to this part.

This is where it's sausage gets made because we're writing all sorts of things like buildings must be set back only this, or they can only be this tall, or they have to have porches or things like that.

I I'll speak to it at a higher level.

The goal is to not make it too complicated.

We want it to be understandable by people we would like, you know, the possibility of property owners being able to just add on to their places.

The goal is you know, to again to have that um infill, not wholesale redevelopment, like we may want in other areas of the city, but we don't want that here.

We want you know more people coming in and and and investing in the area, but you know, trying to make sure that the property owners people who are already here have the ability to do what we want.

Um so there's multiple pieces that have to come together from the regulatory standpoint, and we're at the beginning of that.

There's this is a little tutorial in planning.

There's a few different designations that a property has.

One is called your future land use, and that's the designation that says how much you can do on your property, how many dwelling units can you have, or if you're a non-residential property, how much floor area can you have based on the size of your property?

The the next piece is the zoning, and that's the nitty-green.

That's what you know, people are familiar with.

Like I said, setbacks, how much parking do you have to require?

You know, how how tall could your building be?

Other, you know, do you need buffers between commercial uses and non-virtual uses, things like that.

There's also just even fingerprints policy directions.

So that's done through the city's comprehensive plan.

So what we've done is start the policy side because that takes the longest to get through all of the public hearings and process.

What we will be doing is creating it what's called an overlay district.

So if you are already, you know, have a residential zone, you'll stay in that same residential zone.

If you have commercial zone, you'll stay in that commercial zone.

But there will be kind of this well, overlay, an additional of opportunity for the property owners.

And that's what it'll get shown in much nicer form than these red lines.

But it shows up on maps with like hash marks, right?

It just says, hey, there's something different here, but everything below is what's already there.

Um, we have to work within constraints of you know, Florida statutes, and we can't make things more restrictive.

We wouldn't necessarily have wanted to, but this helps us abide by those statutes too, because it's not that you have to do something different.

It's if you want to do something different and utilize these new tools that we have, this is what you would follow.

And so those new tools would be some additional development potential, like a density bonus.

So I don't remember all the numbers exactly, but a little bit more density will help you get that second unit on a smaller on a smaller lot, right?

Your property is too small, you may only right now be able to build one unit where you want to.

We've heard that two is considered compatible with it with certain design parameters, so we want to enable things like that.

Um, from a commercial standpoint, you know, sometimes it just takes a little bit more floor area to make make things math out.

Um, mixed use.

We're gonna tweak some of the uses because it's much more difficult to do a mixed-use project right now because you have to do all the math and make it work because you have to fit both the residential fees and the non-residential piece on that same piece of land.

So it's usually very difficult and constrained mathematically, but it's what we want.

So we're gonna try to we're removing those hurdles.

Um from the public hearings, you're gonna start seeing things on city council's agenda.

Actually, the next step will be the community development board, which is a board that makes a recommendation of the city council in a similar way that this group does, and we'll be presenting to them some of the policies that'll be changed in the city's comprehensive plan to create this overlay, and it'll be called a planned redevelopment district overlay.

So it'll have that structure, it'll show what those density bonuses would be, but it's still again at that higher level policy side.

We'll also be taking forward the map amendment to the future land use map to apply this overlay, which is like this map here.

You can't do anything with it until the other pieces come along, but procedurally, we have to take it to the community development board.

We have to go to city council for a first reading, then at this level, state agencies review it and has to go to the Board of County Commissioners for approval.

Then it has to come back to city council for a second reading.

So it is a many month process, and we did not want to lose any more time than we already have.

So we were feeling pretty comfortable about the policy side, knowing that we're still working on the details of the zoning, and that's what we'll see.

I mean, we've been working on it, but that's what you'll hear from us about next.

But if you see a public meeting notice and it talks about North Greenwood, a planned redevelopment overlay, that's what this piece is.

Won't be any changes until everything's contingent upon everything else.

So outreach, since we haven't seen y'all since September of last year, we're gonna beef up what we had intended, right?

We had planned on just you know, we get the code written and we come back out with community, make sure at that time that you know it, you know, it would have followed just a few months behind, so everyone would have been fresh.

We're gonna add a few more meetings, either virtually or maybe a couple in person.

We're still hashing that out with our consultants, but we'll be getting those on calendars like early next year.

There's no way to squeeze anything.

No one wants one more thing on their calendars, I bet this month.

Um, and that wouldn't be fair to anyone, can't that?

It's not appropriate to do meetings during the holidays anyway.

So January, February, we'll be getting the word out, we'll be getting those on calendars.

We typically use a wide variety of methods, um providing handouts.

We can work with the coalition to provide handouts like we've done in the past, we put the changeable message board signs out for meetings.

Um we've in the past we've said postcards.

I think that's worked well.

And since it's been a while, I think we would like to do that, send them out both to the property owner and to the address.

Sometimes those are different people who own it versus who's living there.

We want to include everyone as possible and invite them to come to that meeting.

So we would be doing uh an overview of where where we were and then what we've got because we're not ready to take it to city council.

We need to validate it.

You know, this is the group that needs to validate it.

So we'll be coming through doing that, going back, making final changes to make sure that our language reflects what the what everyone wants, and then we'd be starting the the public hearing process on that, and that would be uh it's more consolidated, everything still goes to multiple hearings, it goes to the community development board, and then the city council, and the goal is that they all finish at the same time.

So policy piece goes to the state, comes back to count.

Oh, I guess that goes to the state, comes back to council, goes back to the state, then it is done.

The code and everything like that, while this is going on, and all the bureaucrats are reviewing things, we'll be getting through everything with the community, and they're taking that straight to city house because they have the authority to approve that.

And like I said, in the end, people will have options, not it won't be mandatory.

We can't make it mandatory.

State statute say that, like I said, because we want to have things like some design standards, nothing to make it too expensive to build, nothing's to make it too crazy, but um you know, sometimes it's you know, porches a little bit more uh of that hyper development where appropriate, like we said the mixing of uses, things like that for giving people more option.

And if you want the additional density, then you'd have to follow the new standards.

If you want to build with what you're allowed to do now, you can send you executive back.

So that is a lot, a little bit of a planning primer while also going over where we're at.

Um, I'm really excited to finally be getting momentum again on this.

Um, we had such great community output.

We actually in the interim used your pictures and presented at a conference this summer about the outreach that we did here and got to break out all the pictures and things like that because it's just it was such a fun, fun time for me.

I hope it was for those who are each look so I can answer questions or whatever is appropriate.

Questions from I do.

So once you go through this process, I'm just wondering sometimes, and I understand it goes from here back there, back here, back there, yeah, over there, and all of that other stuff.

And then we party.

Right.

Okay, gotcha.

Right.

But but have you are there ever times when you have to maybe you miss something that can use there is zero way to revise some of those things after all of that ping pong and probably not just wanting to know if here's has that ever happened?

Oh, I think like well at a very high level, I think you know, you're writing code, you're writing policy and everything like that, and you put it out there, and the first few projects are your test cases, and you hope that you got it right if you get feedback from the community, which you accept usually do the developers, or we're gonna tell you what they think pretty honestly.

You know, we can always revisit and make an amendment.

The more difficult thing would be to amend the future land use case.

The piece that has to go to the stage and still have to go to the state, but as long as as long as those numbers are correct, we can tweak the other stuff.

One thing I miss in all that, what our consultants have been doing is where we left off with the code, they're now doing some test cases.

So they're they're doing sample developments on certain parcels that we've kicked.

We actually use you know, some of the projects that have come through and double check.

We're like, if these are products being proposed, we want to make sure that we're not writing a code that can't support these projects, which would be horrible.

So they're really trying to test like a few a parcel here and there, kind of scattered throughout, so we get all different parcel sizes, residential mixed use, development things like that also.

But yes, amendments are are just part of it.

You you know, you or it if things were to change, we're like, you know what, no one wants a port anymore as a really weird example.

Um we could just make that optional, so to speak.

Sorry.

Thank you.

So I do have a question.

It's if this this is semi-related, um there.

So the I I don't know all there is on topic, but I know there's been conversation around like the Live Local Act.

Yes.

And how that impacts zoning and usage and potential work programs or whatever that looks like.

Sure, right.

So maybe can you can you speak to some of that and how that might impact this, or maybe it might not impact it at all?

Well, so the Live Local Act allows for um certain affordable housing projects to be built in certain zoning districts where it might not already be allowed.

Um, I'm gonna say primarily primarily the commercial zoning district, but there's a few others that qualify in the city.

I just can't remember them off the top of my head.

So commercial would be anything that's red on this map.

So that makes it a little easier to see geographically, and and it allows you to build to the highest density otherwise allowed in the city.

So that happens to be our downtown residential density of 75 dwelling units per acre.

So someone could hypothetically purchase some of these commercial properties and build at that.

There's other provisions in there regarding the height.

It's it's typically at least as of the last round.

I don't, I don't there were a couple of changes made this legislative session that I can't recall, but it was previously the maximum height within a one mile radius of the parcel.

So we would map that and see where that is if you're within one mile of downtown.

You know, you get some pretty substantial heights there.

Um, but you still have to fit everything.

It just because you it says you can do it, doesn't mean you can do it physically on a site.

So um we've only had two live local projects come through anything at this point.

Um, but you know, our efforts are hopefully to make things a little easier for people to do more with their property, so that's not their only option.

Gotcha.

Awesome.

Thank you.

And I we have a we have a memo online that explains how the Little Local Act gets applied in the city of Clearwater, but it does not capture this most recent legislative session.

We're still tweaking it for those cheap.

Okay.

But if you were to go to MikeBuyWater.com and search Lope Local Act, it would pull it up.

Okay.

Awesome.

Thank you.

Um the other questions.

Okay.

Um, so this ID requires no motion.

So thank you very much.

You're welcome.

I'll continue to provide information slash ask to be invited back to the meetings going forward now that we're getting back to it.

Thank you.

Awesome.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right, so moving on to the next item on our agenda, CRA update.

Yes, so we do have a couple of updates toward the committee.

Um Monday we had a CRA meeting.

There were a couple items that came forward at that meeting.

One of them was for approval for the North Greenwood C A Art Oasis Mural.

That was an item that came for you at your last meeting.

Um, Amber Bryce, the city's cultural affairs manager presented that, and on Monday, she and I presented that to the CRA trustees for financial approval.

They did approve the funding for that program.

So very happy about that.

We can start working with um Janet Creeby, who's the consultant that Amber is working with.

Um, so um what I am just doing is getting the information out to both the board and the public that's here attending.

If there are any commercial buildings within the North Greenwood CRA that would like a mural or the board knows of any of that could be great potential locations for a mural that would be chained by the CRA.

If you could please give them my information or Amber's information, we would love to get the consultant out there with Sarah Stop to talk with them about this program.

Um the next item that I have for you again is just to let you know about our North Greenwood residential and commercial grants that we offer, those are still going strong.

We have received uh over 40 applications that have gone through CRA staff for the North Greenwood residential grant.

So grant that program has been um in for a little over a year.

Um and those have all are either have received funding, are approved or going through the process for us, I think is a really great thing for the community.

One of the other things that I'm very excited about is to introduce the new face to the CRA.

Miss Marilyn Brown started with us two weeks ago.

So she's been uh very fortunate.

She's been her very first day she got to attend a CRA trustee meeting.

So I think that's a really great way to start and a great way for us to welcome her to the CRA.

Um so I would like to just give her on the floor for a couple of minutes to introduce herself and her background and um just share well.

Thank you to the team that um has been so gracious in welcoming in the past two weeks.

Um the past two weeks has been filled with uh learning and um absorbing a new topic to me.

I resident of this community for over 40 years.

Um for the past 10 years I've worked for St.

Petersburg College as a business relationship manager, building relationship with business and um ultimately trying to get our students to work, um, better lives, better jobs, as some of you may now is some love.

Um, but I look forward to serving our community in a totally different capacity capacity.

I look forward to helping welcome here, yeah.

So we are very excited to have her on board.

Uh she brings a skill set that um both Jesus and myself are very excited, and we can't wait to get her out into the community to bring all those to life.

Um the only other thing that I have for you, um, and I don't want to take away from Miss Marilyn's Thunder if she was gonna bring it up, um, was to talk about um the amazing presentation that was brought forward between the uh St.

Petersburg College and the Florida Urban Leadership Coalition.

So that was a really great uh partnership um that Audra Aha, our economic development manager brought forward, and so we're very grateful for what she was able to bring forward.

So if your plans were to talk about that, then I will let you do that.

I think I'm just out just fair too.

Um St.

Petersburg College, they uh we were able to partner them with a nonprofit.

Uh they came to us, Dr.

Andy Rojas, who is the uh college of with the College of Business at St.

Petersburg College.

Um, he wanted to find a nonprofit within the community that maybe we knew that could use the resources, and so he put together a team of students that were going through and you know we're able to really utilize their skills um to help the coalitions come together and create a action plan, so to speak, for uh the shipping container, the Grove at 1105.

Um, so that was presented on Monday.

So if anybody is interested in taking a look at that, that was presented at Monday's uh CRA meeting, so we can take a look at the presentation.

Other than that, I do not have any other updates unless the board has questions for me.

You wanna have questions, Tran.

Well, I can say one day, but if there might you wanted to go after his business and the ballot.

Hi we directed it from Peter.

And we're very appreciative.

Um, absolutely chair's meeting.

And we're appreciative because the fact that what we're looking at doing would be um getting a group on it road.

So that's the fact that we're going to be uh it's gonna be a place where we're gonna have all of these businesses who are wanting to house there.

So though this may not have just one individual business business downtown, you know, we've got 10 uh future businesses that are gonna really benefit from the amazing information.

They did some deep diving uh in this uh research that they did.

It was just um and it was it was great, and I'm excited, and then we tell you I always say it's important that business owners get a good start because many times they have grand openings and grand closes within close proximity because they didn't get a good start, and so I think the information that they provided us not only just showed us that we were we were many of those things we were already there, so it was a good as a confirmation, but areas where we were may not have considered a couple of things.

Uh love the gorilla marketing was phenomenal.

You all will hear more about that.

Check that on the website.

Um, and uh, but it was phenomenal, and uh just um just honored you were being able to receive that, and so just thank you and uh the CRA thank you to uh to ATRA Santa you all allowed us that that privilege to receive that amazing service.

we were we uh may not have considered a couple of things uh love the guerrilla marketing was phenomenal you all want to hear more about that check out on the website um and uh but it was phenomenal and um just um just honored you were being able to receive that and so just thank you and uh the CRA thank you to uh to our truck yeah something you all allowed us that that privilege to receive that amazing service and and those students were awesome too by the way and even the score to give them a next plug for boy that yes green awesome um thank you appreciate the updates um so moving on to our our last item uh board members to be heard is there anything that one watched it bring forward oh did you go first uh I apologize for being tardy um but I don't know if you guys had introductions but um I'm brand new here um and uh excited to be part of the community um I own a local business uh in the area so um uh happy to be part of the the development I love what's going on with the Grove I checked it out um I my business is all about fun so uh I love that uh this looks really fun and and want to help the community um and uh really looking forward to being part of this part of this uh this team coming oh my name is Jason Corbin that's right I don't have a fancy one yet but in my business is uh a golf cart dealership so we do sales service and rentals a lot of fun stuff and uh you've probably seen them around town awesome thank you I believe that's divine orchestration we need some golf carts in this community I love it so um yeah basically I I just want to um you know I'm just curious uh our downtown CRM I know it's different than ours um those dollars are we oops they utilized we are not I are not man I knew the answer I knew the answer I just want to make sure you remember so uh just curious just some of the things that we're looking at doing in the future just looking at maybe some other processes we know they have more money than they can spend so we just started next okay all right then so um other than that um just uh uh excited about where we are with this project um you can see the uh we're we're getting closer uh the summer is right around the corner lots of there's some upcoming dates that we're going to have with some of the um the business network and we had our first session um and uh we were able to uh some of those potential tenants who are going to be in the in the container our village were there but we have some money is coming out but also too you know about Sami College we know that for the first one we got some great publication uh Bay News Nine came into the store Miss Cory did a great historical uh background on you know how we got here what's going on and so people can see where we're going and all the good stuff but uh yeah so I guess that's there a list of proposed businesses or anything out there I didn't I didn't see that yet but no it it's not out there it's not out there yet however um after the presentation by the college students uh we're really looking at uh some things that we may do differently um because that composition of businesses needs to be something that will uh benefit the container that will be sustainable um and so those things that will compliment the effort of the whole thank you you know economic awesome yeah absolutely I'm done good yeah nothing okay um so one thing I do want to bring forward a uh actually there was that headline that I saw maybe an hour before right near this morning o'clock more toward development and that the city is uh I guess opening up proposals for the redevelopment of that property uh knowing that the property is within the CRA um I would like to know how can we make sure to the best of our ability that we are followed um as you developers transleg or whatever shake the box it'll be done hi how about just to say that also absolutely I made the presentation yesterday about this along with Lord Matt Steve.

So we talked about what the next steps would be in terms of making the property available for redevelopment um positive reception probably counsel about a process involved in that it'll be several months say hey this is a period how we're gonna accept proposals so we we'd love to use um this forum as a way to generate interest in property and also use it as a way for you to know projects or bring the Mitris into the equation so we're almost all ideas at this point.

We did want to know what's some deliberately and we do want to help uh you want to market it in a way that is the best proposal.

So um where it comes that, but this is hot up the prices might be.

Yeah, like I said, I saw I come through but but but to your point that's the type of top of mind is that we want to create bringing the development opportunity.

So we'll talk more about it along with a number of other projects that we're trying to do under the outpap area and boycrain.

Well, it's a large presentation as topic, it's just you can't do the types of projects that you want to do without this on in the play sounds harmony at turn.

I'll put it this way, you can do them, but they'll be different.

It'll make process easier.

So we kind of need all of those things to work together.

I'm gonna start.

We'll talk more about the domain specific projects, but those things would be very important to North Florida and have a other project then that's the thumb and put the new things until the guarantee start but make any deep series.

Okay, awesome.

Thank you, sir.

Appreciate it.

Okay, well.

If you feel like you want to watch the meeting, get this online so we can watch the meetings Monday.

Okay, here's reputation.

If you would share the presentation with do that with the with the committee members, that'd be great as well.

Yes.

Oh better.

I'll get the presentation.

I'll send you a copy of the presentation as well as a link to the agenda item and the video for Monday.

Thank you.

Well, that is all that I had.

And no one else has any day to bring forward.

Sounds good to me.

So we have moved to return minutes.

Oh, sorry.

When is next meeting?

Uh I'm actually in the process of putting together the calendar.

Okay.

So if that's something that we need to discuss now or do I need to work with the case?

No, so the policy states that it's on it's the first the first Wednesday of each quarter month.

So we just had a meeting.

The next meeting, if we went poor early, could be in March.

Um, unless the board feels that they want a meeting prior to that.

We can always and as items come forward, specifically maybe North Green uh Greenwood North Board.

Um, or even if Moran has any more updates, you know, we can always schedule a s a special meeting between now and then, um, the next meeting would be scheduled right now tentatively for March 4th.

Okay.

All right, I'm I think I'm I'm good with March 4th.

Does anyone have any objections?

Dog could then know.

So we'll move forward with our March 4th day.

Um unless but as you said something comes up, that's not discussing if we can we can make sure that you have to cool.

Anything about missing anything?

About the day.

All right.

Awesome, thank you very much.

Meeting adjourned 6 33 p.m.