Madam Chair, we're ready.

Oh, okay.

Um what do we need for a quorum?

Four four.

So you have it.

I'd like to call to Kent to um order this Thursday, April 23rd uh meeting of the community resilience and leisure services advisory board.

Uh thank you for everyone who has made the time to be here.

We're going to be brief today uh to respect the fact that council has chambers uh this evening.

Has everyone had an opportunity to review the minutes?

Yes.

Does anyone want to entertain a motion?

Motion to approve second.

All in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Oh, great.

We have one more.

We can go ahead and move on to citizens to be heard regarding agenda items not items not on the agenda.

Welcome, Mr.

Johnson.

Good evening, madam chairman, members of the of the committee.

Uh I want to address the uh Phillies term sheet for the Bright House Stadium, and I have a presentation.

Okay, thank you.

If I can get it going.

So the question is, and what's listed here, or another way of asking this question is will the extra fourteen million for the Bay Care ballpark cannibalize or diminish the maintenance of Coach and Park and the beach and the rest of the city.

The Phillies term sheet is an excellent opportunity for Bay Care ballpark improvements.

But more importantly, they really mean to enforce those standards.

Clear waters, and this is what the language that's in the term sheet.

Clearwater standard logo is bright and beautiful from the bay to the beach.

But do we mean it?

Well, we say it.

But the former president of Clearwater's chamber told me Monday, the city of Clearwater doesn't follow their own rules.

Let's look at evidence from Clearwater Beach and Coke and Park.

Looking at the development review committee process, there's always an acknowledgement on here requiring that shell, rock, gravel, or any similar material are not acceptable landscape materials.

So what is being done by the city?

And apparently that's because we can't afford to do it in the right way.

And looking at some of the other examples, uh, this is Coachman Park on the beach, again on the beach, uh, even in the roundabout and surrounding areas now, even commercial properties are going to use shell, which is prohibited.

So we ask uh the park department why did you do this one?

Did you use mulch?

And they said because it washes out.

The question is, if the the code says if it's gonna wash out, you need to put keep it in.

And so if we can fund 30 million dollars to improve our already fine stadium, why can't we maintain our coachment park to the designated standards?

Thank you.

Thank you.

Is there anyone else who wishes to be heard on items not on the agenda?

I do have copies of my slides for you now.

Yeah, thank you, Pat.

All right, then moving on to new business items starting with 4.1 Clearwater 2045 presentation.

Stop.

Thanks.

Here we go.

Hi, good afternoon.

Thank you for the invitation.

I'm Gorin Maskey, I'm director for the planning and development department.

Hi, I'm Marcy Stenmark, I'm the long range planning manager.

Welcome to both of you.

Thank you.

We appreciate the invitation to go a little bit over the city's comprehensive plan.

Um, recognizing that the board covers a lot of different topics.

Um we knew that some of the interest was, of course, the parks and recreation element as well as um the coastal resiliency, but we're gonna go over a little bit more than that if that's okay.

I'm gonna ask for that.

So um we're gonna talk a little bit about what a comprehensive plan is and what's in the whole of Clearwater 2045, and then we'll go through as you see some of the related goals and objectives that I think touch mostly on this board's purview.

There actually are a couple of things in there about libraries as well, but um, I forgot to pull those in, so sorry about that.

Um, comprehensive planning might not be everyone's jam, it's not necessarily what everyone knows about, but it's very important document to the city of Clearwater because it does it details our long-term vision and future direction and provides that guidance for all of our policy decisions for that bigger picture piece.

It's required by the state of Florida, and it's been a little while since I had to look it up, but um the state of Florida requires certain what they call elements of the plan, and that includes future land use, transportation, housing, infrastructure, so sanitary sewer, solid waste drainage, potable water, coastal management since we're a coastal area, conservation, recreation and open space, intergovernmental coordination.

So, how do we work within all the other agencies in the area, capital improvements, and then private property rights?

So it's a pretty pretty intensive piece of legislation that we have to address, but every city has one, and every city's plan it should be tailored to their own local community.

Um, additionally, to make sure that we're keeping them up to date, the state does require major updates every seven to ten years.

There's a review process where you check to see what statutes have changed, but then also what locally maybe has changed in that period of time.

So the city's vision statement really guided a lot of our update for the plan that's now called Clearwater 2048.

So you can see here we're a city of diverse, unique and special places, livable neighborhoods, economic resiliency, friendly people, and amazing opportunities.

Um, and so everything within here really does tie back or try to achieve the vision statement.

As I mentioned, you know, the state requires elements.

We actually organized it a little bit differently in a chapter structure.

So there's a chapter on quality places.

This covers the land use and some of the other required pieces.

But this is you know more of the development piece where will development go into what densities or intensities, how are we looking at our neighborhoods and their stability?

How are we addressing housing affordability and economic development?

We um instead of just calling it transportation, we went with mobility because there's a lot more to it.

Um yes, lots of vehicular use and the roads and everything like that, but there is also you know promoting walking, biking, and transit use, making things safe for all of the users, so not just again the people walking, but also the people driving things safety is a very important thing.

And then how are we connecting to all of our employment districts?

Um parks and rec shape chapter, which is specific to our parks and recreation facilities in the open spaces.

Conservation and coastal management were combined because they really work a lot together regarding the natural resources and then the our coastal areas, how are we dealing with stormwater, but also the disaster redevelopment pieces in there, and then um this would be where some of the stuff for libraries in, and we have a we chose to add this.

This is not required, although parts of it are part of the necessary elements because we wanted to address all of our different support services.

So where the state doesn't require you to address police, fire rescue, and library, we felt it was important to add that in because it's a big part of what makes our city the livable city that we're in.

So would you like I don't know which piece you would you want to talk about parks specifically?

Sure.

Okay.

All right.

Well, I'll go through this part and then we'll tag team because she's working on some pieces right now.

So there's um a number of sustainability related policies.

So again, we had because there's so much interconnection between the topics, we broke it out by um to talk to y'all more about the sustainability than the coastal piece.

So um, and some of it does come from the statute.

So, this was something that was added in this last update related to solar facilities being constructed in stormwater ponds and everything like that.

There were some statutory changes, and this was to address those requirements.

So you'll get a sense of the types of policies and goals and objectives that we have in it.

Um, also related to sustainability, but the M is for the mobility chapter, um, looking at our transportation system, tying back to Greenprint 2.0, which is kind of that broader package.

There are just a lot of connections between transportation systems, whether it be um well-timed lighting, um, lights like signal lights and and kind of moving traffic, um, sometimes you know, reducing those stoppages is also you know consistent with green print, and so there's a lot of different ways to look at it.

Um integrating in sustainable and resilient techniques into our land use transportation and housing.

So, again, these are this is a goal, so you can see it's a bigger aspirational piece to it.

Um so objectives, we have a lot of different there's policies under each objective.

So we have a variety of objectives related to sustainable and resilient uses, building techniques, and again, some addressing clerk water green print specifically, um, talking about our water system and making and um touching on the conservation and protecting our natural resources.

I think natural resources comes up a lot, it's definitely part of what your board does, but it's it's a part of the council's strategic vision plan as well.

We have some pieces related to resiliency, including you know, protecting from flood events.

Uh, now this was in place before the storms, but now it's certainly even more meaningful the need to continually look at this from that bigger picture.

You know, how it drives our policies, it drives you know, our some of our public spending.

So things like reducing flood risk and losses, making sure our city facilities are adequately protected, um, and conserving public access.

That would include you know, the the places where we have public access to the beach, the street ends, areas like that, making sure that those are conserved.

Um, we have a definition for a coastal storm area, and in the coastal storm area, you're we prohibit um increased density or increased intensity of residential or permanent populations because those are the areas that are most likely well, it's um category one or category two storm surge areas, and so we don't want to increase beyond what's already entitled through our plans from years ago.

We don't want to increase our population or permanent population of those areas.

So, and you also don't want your critical facilities in there, right?

It makes sense that you don't want to build new hospitals.

We'll use a very obvious example in a coastal storm area where evacuation would be necessary.

The state requires us to address evacuation times, and then we also have continued to discuss adaptation action areas.

This is more of a something that we could do identified there because there are ways to incentivize some pieces there.

So that's just a more aspirational objective within the plan.

This is more directly related to the flooding, and so when we're working on like our stormwater teams and teams in public works are working on some of our watershed management plans, they're working towards these objectives, which are we're looking at lowering our high water profiles during these storm events.

What can we do as a mitigation or in advance of so that you know when those unfortunate storms come, we're not as affected.

Um, just identifying best management practices, bringing it all together, and then of course, some environmental.

We just heard about the landscaping from Mr.

Joneson, but we have tree protection standards and landscaping codes, and so that's always been a part of again what what helps us achieve our vision through that and making sure so a lot some of the policies will directly apply or direct items that then become implemented in our community development code, so the regulatory side it comes from policy to the actual standards and how we oversee development.

Um tree canopy preservation again.

That was very important a few years back.

Well, I mean, it's always important, but when Duke Energy was doing things, we heard from the community and council took action based on that because there were concerns about our tree canopy.

Um the causeway, you know, these are our gateways, but they're also very natural areas that are identified for their preservation.

I remember the first time I learned about the what the causeway looked like so many years ago and how important it was to you know the originals of Clearwater Beach.

It was pretty phenomenal to learn the history of the city, and this that I have a you know, ours is very beautiful, and sometimes people ask, well, can we build more lanes?

But there's you know, there's trade-offs to everything, and so our city has you know established policies like this to and that you start to balance everything because there's there's always you know many sides to everything.

So, aesthetics that helps us, you know, a lot, and so that's like that character, our our natural areas, our neighborhoods, maintaining our water views and view corridors, because as you know, we're a redevelopment community, so when new growth happens, which we embrace, you know, we do like to have our new neighbors that helps with our housing and all the other pieces, but you know, our our communities' values are also represented within the comprehensive plan.

So these are some of you know, there's a series of maps in there as well.

That if you flip through it, you'll see this is where we have maps to show what our view corridors are.

Um I think you know, there's a lot to be said about the the economics of the city and how how our um natural side and our um our beauty, our beaches really is part of our economics.

So you could we could give the same presentation but through an economic development lens, and you'd see some of these same goals because they're so important to who we are, and that's what I meant earlier when I said you know, other cities will have environmental goals, they'll have economic goals, but they're this is this is clear water, this is our plan.

Um so you'll see a lot of similarities, right?

More protection of natural resources, our wetlands, our wildlife habitat, but then of course, our water wells.

It's important that we have the pootable water, and how are we dealing with our stormwater discharge and maintaining compliance with federal laws as well.

Um, and I'll hand it off to Marcy, then specific to the parks piece.

Thank you.

So I'm gonna go over the parks related goals and objectives and the comprehensive plan.

So we have a parks goal to promote the equitable design of trails, open spaces, and parks and recreation facilities to make it safe and easy for residents to use the parks, regardless of their age, race, ethnicity, income, age, I'm sorry, ability, or disability.

We have an objective to ensure the city's system of trails, open spaces, and parks, and recreation facilities, and that they equitably serve diverse community needs.

We have a goal to ensure that trails, open spaces, and parks, and recreation facilities are located throughout the city.

And then we have objectives under the goals to maintain adequate level of service.

So we take a look at how many parks we have and ensuring that we are meeting the level of service, and I can report where we are meeting in our way above our level of service requirements.

We increase uh we want to increase parks in areas that need facilities, and we want to implement and evaluate the parks master plan.

And while I'm mentioning the parks master plan, I wanted to let you know that it was recently updated, and we will be going through the comprehensive plan to see if we need to update it in any way to reflect the plan update.

And as we do that, we'll be sure to come back and share with you our ideas for updating the comprehensive plan to reflect the parks master plan and see if you have any ideas for us and how we move forward.

We have a parks goal to preserve and expand natural features of the city, and objectives to preserve natural open space areas and to preserve existing and future trails and parks.

There's also a parks goal to utilize the parks and recreation impact fee to improve open spaces in parks and recreational facilities.

And the impact fee was updated a few years ago.

There's an objective to continue administration of the parks and recreation impact fee, and then that's it for us.

Thank you so much.

And we want to see if you had any questions about the comprehensive plan.

My thought when you were before you got to the part about accessibility, uh, in the mobility portion, I was curious about efforts to increase the amount of um walkways for real chairs at the beaches.

I know they're very expensive, but is that the kind of thing that we can apply for a grant for?

Um so what we like the planning and development site, right?

We work with the community and help develop plans.

We also certainly work with our departments, right?

They were they were working with us through this validating everything that was put in there, but in terms of the implementation side, that really is like parks and rec passes too to make those decisions that seems like a grant opportunity that is aligned with the piece that was in the plan.

Um I have a friend who who um often writes grants for other projects in the city, and um she uses the comprehensive plan regularly to better support you know to show that this is aligned with the city's you know objectives and policies.

So, you know, our our intention is to always have the pieces in in the conference of plan the policies to support what the various departments are trying to achieve.

It kind of goes back and forth.

You don't want it to be overly prescriptive, of course, but but we should be aligned.

And if there's things that you know change over time, that's why we do regular updates, but we don't have to wait every seven to ten years.

In this instance, we did the major update for Clearwater 2045, knowing that the parks and recreation master plan wasn't quite complete.

So we I we identified it as a very specific policy to give direction and to come back and and make those changes.

So that was around a bigger answer than your actual very I mean that tells me that at least it's not a no.

It's not a no.

I don't I don't you're taking into consideration all kinds of mobility.

Right.

And I know they regularly assess that and work towards things at in the parks and department, but I personally can't commit them to I was going to add that I know that Parks and Rec in the past has tried, but that would be a question that I'll pose to uh Mr.

Cater.

And if there is a potential project that they're working on, I'll ask them to come to the meeting to next meeting to provide that update for the committee.

Otherwise, I will try to find that information to share that.

Thank you.

You have a big job.

I mean comprehensive plans.

That's that's a lot of work.

It's a lot of work.

Yeah, and uh and you know, like you say, it's mandated.

So by the state.

Um so I have I have a couple of questions.

By the way, excellent presentation.

Appreciate it.

Um a couple of questions as it relates to conservation of our waterways.

Um there are safeguards in place during the site plan reviews to prevent overdevelopment on existing utilities and infrastructure, such as stormwater runoff, drainage, sanitary sewers, etc.

And I have an example to give Marshall Street sewage treatment plan.

It's an old plan operating at capacity, and known to have leaks and illicit discharges in the Stevenson Creek during storm events.

So and then another example is the landings and whether or not it will be developed.

And my question is the landings were to be developed, would it contribute to more over-servicing of Marshall Street plant?

I'm not going to intentionally try to skirt the last piece.

I just honestly couldn't speak to that.

I know that I know what's in the newspaper as well.

I know the bits and pieces that I've been exposed to, and none of the project is at a point where that analysis would have been done.

So and I'm not a stormwater expert or utilities expert.

Regarding like how does the site plan review process work?

So I gosh, I could totally geek out on this all day, but I know we have a time constraint too.

So I would say, so with there's a couple of different maps that regulate the city.

There's a future land use map, which is, of course, we've talked about it, a future land use element, and that piece I always try to say that's what gives you your entitlements.

That's you know, you're entitled to your land.

It says how much can you develop and general uses, you know.

So we have a few different residential categories, and they talk about how many units per acre you could build.

Then we have some mixed-use categories, and those will allow a certain amount of commercial uses or maybe um hotel density is established, and then you have just you would have your industrial categories, right?

Then it gets more fine-grained at the zoning level, and zoning is what more people are familiar with, and so zoning you're still limited by your future land use, but zoning gets much more detailed, and there's a lot more uses very well defined in there.

That's where your setbacks come into play.

But that's also in our community development cover, all the other standards are established.

So we have stormwater standards that also refers to their manuals and things like that.

So when a new development is proposed or re-remodel or anything like that, it's reviewed by a variety of people in the city of Clearwater.

Of course, like the building construction piece is reviewed by our plans examiners who are strictly limited to the Florida building code standards, right?

And then there's the rest of us.

And so we have planners who review against the setbacks in the zoning and the heights and the uses.

We have stormwater team who is reviewing either you know all of the stormwater calculations and and details of ponds and retention that the development team has provided, and they and you know, the utilities team is reviewing where are the utilities placed and doing their evaluation on capacity, if fire reviews, etc.

So, you know, through that process, and and there's a couple of different ways it happens, but in general, through that process, there's a back and forth, right?

If it meets our standards, we check off on it.

If we have to ask questions or we need more information, we send it back for more information until we can say as the review professionals that it meets the city standards, the Florida building code, etc.

Um, that's kind of that piece of it, and like I said, it comes in a few different pieces.

So the other thing I could touch on though is well, planning does the long-range planning piece for the city as a whole, our our other departments do that also.

They have tenure water bastard plans, they have bigger utilities master plans that come into play, and um one of the things that we do is we all use similar population projections.

We actually use those on a regional, well, a countywide scale.

So the organization called Forward Pinellus, which some people may have heard of, they're a joint land use and transportation agency.

In our instance, it's just for Pinellas County.

Um, we all work with them, but as as a staff, their staff they um prepare a long-range transportation plan.

It's like a 40-year plan.

I don't know, 30 or 40 years out, and through that process, they have to update it every five years, and they do updated population projections as well as economic and socioeconomic, so where are our businesses going, what are our needs and demands.

The planners, each of the city, we we work with our utilities and other groups to validate those numbers, and we're doing it based on you know, where are we seeing growth, where do our plans call for growth, and so there's a lot of the then all the the Excel sheets I imagine that go into place, but that's where that's how like it all kind of comes together.

So ultimately, though, on a project by project basis, you're the city's staff is reviewing to ideally talk about those, and then of course, with um the you know, the longer you you know have certain staff, then we also have seen all the different projects, and you know, that helps us as well become better, even better at our jobs, I think, like as we reflect the city's values even that much more.

Thank you for that.

But that was I don't know that answer, but that's in my head.

No, that's great.

You you you indicate how many moving parts there are and all the pieces involved, it's very complex.

But you really didn't answer my question about sewage treatment.

Okay, so so with that though, I mean, that's where like I would say like utilities and their long-range plans are looking at those capacities and and you know, where are they having it?

They're working on their repair plans and everything related to Marshall Street specifically.

When a project comes in that's within the Marshall Street area, they would be looking at that.

I could say um at a different example, if someone wanted to do more on their property, and we'll keep using Marshall Street.

So it's within the Marshall Street um facility area, and they want to do more.

What does that mean?

They would maybe be asking for what's called a future land use map, right?

I said the future land use is what gives you your entitlement, so to speak.

Let's say they I'm just making stuff up, obviously on the fly.

Let's say they want to triple their density.

Well, they have to go through a process to request that.

And in that process, first our development review committee reviews it.

That's a lot of our staff people.

Um, everyone gets eyes on it.

Then we ask a lot of the questions.

And this is just at the policy level.

We're not talking about a very later on the nitty-gritty of the project.

They're just like, nope, I want to, I have a project in mind, and I want so I can't make it work until I get this many more units, right?

So we're doing all that analysis, and and the planners are reviewing the plans that we have and working with utilities and doing an analysis based on the most that they could do, and what is that change, right?

If it's gonna require you know, X numbers of gallons of water per day or generate Y number of you know, impact, the change it's gonna be this much more, and can our systems accommodate that?

So utilities involved in that, planning is involved in that.

It rolls through a few more steps.

You may have heard of we go to our community development board with a staff report and a rec and ask for a recommendation.

We make staff makes a recommendation, but the community development board then makes a recommendation of their own, and then we present to city council because a change of that nature is a legislative action, and so council would be able to read you know staff's analysis and testimony, the develop whoever the applicant is their analysis and testimony, and then they weigh all of that and make the decision.

Yeah, good.

Um so um there is there a way for the city to prioritize and expedite the plan to modernize and consolidate the three sewage treatment plants into the one modern Northeast plant.

Is I keep hearing it's 10 years out, it's 10 years out.

Is there I would not be able to speak to that, so that was that would be a specific request, and I'll I'll see about the department.

But but it is true, it is a project that's undergoing, it is gonna take some time because it's uh obviously I'm not the expert in that area, but based on the information presented at council, you're talking about consolidating several areas, and it just happens to be bigger areas of the city into one plant, and it's gonna it will take some time, and it's a lot of coordination in terms of the actual infrastructure that needs to occur, plus the funding.

Yeah.

I do you have a brief question before we proceed with questions.

Is it safe to say that we should restrict our questions to the 7,000-foot view and not so much the like implementations?

Uh well, I mean because we all kind of seem to be on an implementation.

Well, I mean, of course, because that's where that's where the rubber views the road, and that's really you know that.

But I mean, I can answer the broader policy.

I've been at the city 17 years, so I won't speak out of turn, like outside of my lane too much, but you know, similarly to Ms.

Call, who I've been in many of the discussions and stuff like that.

So if it is something, but there I mean the plan itself, the the main topic is the policy side, but I like to, you know, as it is part of planning and development, you know, we do touch a lot more of that, so I don't mind okay.

I just wanted to make sure we expected your.

No, I just wanted to respect your time, and I didn't want you to have to continue to say that that's not your that's okay.

I'm also used to it for what that's worth, respectfully.

We both also have to be a counsel tonight, so we're here.

Good, very good.

So, my next question has to do with our barrier island.

Does the city have a plan to consider applying for FEMA-related buyouts of distressed properties on our barrier islands that are repeatedly damaged by severe hurricanes and sea level rise?

No.

And if not it means a left like that's a funny, but no, that one I can answer.

Okay.

If not, would you support buy-outs of such properties and establishing passive parks by returning the most vulnerable and flood-prone properties to nature?

I won't give uh an opinion on that because they think that's you know will vary by person.

But I can, you know, I'll do higher level, and you know, you can use that in you know, if you want to talk to certain people on my staff about things, that's fine.

Um the city added an official floodplain administrator role in 24.

We were very fortunate because he has um decades of experience responding to storms and and administering um floodplain management.

He's a wealth of knowledge, and so um we would have handled it, but we handled it even better thanks to having Eugene on the team, and um he has a lot of experience working with FEMA and everything there.

So as we worked in our department to help our our neighbors and and residents rebuild, you know, we've been making sure that we're remaining compliant with both the city's floodplain management ordinance and and to be clear the 50% rule that gets kind of generalized.

Yes, it's administered by FEMA, but it's a city rule, so we'll take ownership of that and and give our friends at the federal level a little bit of a break.

Um so we make sure that we're remaining compliant with all of that.

We have a flood board, so if there's a variance needed for certain projects, it can go to the flood board.

Um we are we do track repetitive loss properties, they're um very um protected in terms of the data that you know, only a few of us have access to that data, and um it's not allowed to be shared, so there's we're limited in what we can do with it, but we know generally, you know, where the repetitive loss areas are.

Um, I think what was probably surprising to some residents in Clearwater, it kind of caught me.

I'm always used to the beach, but I happen to live on the east side of town where there was a lot of flooding and affected people over there, um, you know, on the long Bay Shore and areas, and so we and and inland when we talk about the standard.

Um so I think the city is is cognizant of that.

We're doing a lot of different efforts related to floodplain management.

I think you know, not to offer up topics, but that would probably be you know a great individual topic for for people.

So that's great.

Thank you so much, appreciate it, madam chair.

Per Robert's rules, I request my questions to be included in the minutes.

Do I put it?

We just we do summarize minutes, um, but they are part of this the record in terms of the the video, the stream.

So we do summarize fit minutes, so it's not and the reason why minutes should reflect the action of the collegial body, not individuals, but your questions and comments or rather responses provided by Ms.

Matske will reflect your questions.

Of a board, so not specifically your name will not be listed, it's the board's actions.

Does anyone else have questions about for our presenters?

Yes, well, thank you very much for your time.

I appreciate it.

Thank you again.

We look forward to engaging you on our other processes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Moving on to item 4.2, setting the agenda for the next meeting.

I do have an item.

I will leave it to you to decide who is the best person to do this, but whoever can present to us on subject matter that we cover as it relates to hurricane prep so that we're prepared when we are out in the community and people are asking.

Does anyone else have agenda items?

Does the board want to continue maybe and I don't know, maybe after having the presentation for hurricane preparedness, maybe um consider an opportunity for an educational outreach because that is one of the items that falls within your purview, and that could be a topic given that it is coming up soon.

Yes, please, that would be fantastic.

Well, and our meeting won't be until June.

So I mean, hopefully, we won't have active storms before we meet again.

So I do think that is a good idea.

Okay.

Um, and then the other thing I would like to ask for is when parks and requisites own standalone board, we would receive updates on ongoing projects.

Okay.

I found that to be very helpful because again, it educated me for when someone's asking me as a member of this board.

Um, I don't know if the library has an equivalent, but there were it was very long ongoing list of projects for parts.

What I can do is I can ask the department directors to create or share a project list if they have one, um, and then I can share that with the meeting agenda, and then that could be a practice moving forward that any time meeting agenda is provided, that we provide any lists of projects.

Yes, but not necessarily to present at the meeting, but that way you guys have it ahead of time, and then if there is a need for a presentation or follow-up, right?

Based on that, you can discuss at the meeting.

I think that's a great idea.

Um with regards to the three different areas.

Okay, great.

Does anyone else have items they wish to put on the agenda for next month?

Or for June.

I apologize.

I'm interested in um best tree policies and the best practices for the future.

So if anybody if as far as canopy goes, because we want to improve tree canopy in the city.

So any other agenda items before we move on.

Okay, board members to be heard.

Do you all want the opportunity to just go down the line?

Sure.

Well, thank you for a very short meeting.

Obviously, this was very eventful in terms of the planning and development.

Uh, really appreciate the presentation, so thank you very much for putting that together.

It is insightful.

Obviously, as we continue to you know, kind of learn as a new board, you know, a lot of this these presentations are really helpful because there's a lot that is now being covered in one board.

So thank you.

Thank you, Lauren and Marcy.

That was a great presentation.

I already brought up my items of concern, mostly just wanting uh some additional information to be uh more informed on ongoing projects.

Um and I appreciate your time very much, and I look forward to listening to you tonight at council.

I'll just reiterate what everyone else said, but thank you very much.

You guys did a great job, and uh appreciate the the upcoming list that we can have so we can have some more thoughtful input.

Thank you.

Yes, and thank you very much.

It was a great presentation, and I'm sure we will do whatever we can to help you out.

Thank you very much.

Uh ditto, it was excellent.

Thank you.

I do have one more thing only because it was already mentioned during this meeting, and I don't want to overlook it as I told Glenna that I would make sure that it was a priority.

Is the status of the landings still not a project?

Still just I think uh Miss Maske mentioned it earlier in in the meeting.

It's still not a proposal.

I know that staff is reviewing whatever the unsolicited um proposal that was submitted by the developer to see what can and can't be done, but that it's still not anything that has come before formally.

So it's it's kind of like well, this is an idea, what can be done, and staff is still analyzing that proposal.

Thank you for the update.

If that is everything, then we are adjourned.

And when and where is the next meeting then?