Wow, what country was it?

Text me and let me know which uh we're gonna have to use the let me know that I gotta jump on this.

Okay, when is this name and it's talking about the end?

Um record.

What is it?

Yeah, that's the same.

Yeah.

So is it on the agenda?

Is there a chair?

Yes.

Okay.

Are you calling it?

Oh, so I'm sorry.

So yeah, I know today is Monday, September 15th, 2 p.m.

This committee uh five diversity equity and inclusion is called order.

Mr.

Clerk?

Oh, Madam Clerk, please call the board.

Here's it up here, PC.

Present.

Mr.

Chairman, you're on the call.

Thank you.

We're gonna call up uh the public parks.

I believe this porch commissioner ports is one of represent uh because uh directing people is on the thing.

So this is ordinance number April 3025, Council members informed the commissioner by parking over the board is authorizing the directors of parts and recommendation and port controls to an amendment to the existing lease agreement with the board of park commissioner for the Cleveland Metropolitan Park Ministry for River Gates Park to add additional city owned property to the least director and see.

Um I'm sorry, we can we've been having some technical issues, so I do want to let our council members know channel twenty is uh one we have the camera here because there are some technical issues uh with our feet that go directly from here.

So that's why the camera is here.

Okay.

Uh Commissioner Horse, do you want to please?

Sure.

Good morning, Council members.

Um I have something about the say here.

She's not speaking on the speech.

Okay.

Thank you.

Um I'm Susan Disney Proposition for the state, and I have with me Sean Dermitt, the chief planning design officer from Cleveland Parks to answer any questions.

Um the ordinance authorizes a lease amendment to the recording park release with Cleveland Metro Parks to add city property in the westerly edge of the Columbus Road Peninsula for construction and maintenance of a policy purpose path and other improvements including signage and speaking.

Burger Gate Park is a 2.8 acre park on the Kuiper River at the southern end of the Clemens Road Peninsula.

It's west of the bridge, west of Park Green Park and nearly.

So back in 2014, the city entrance was lease with metro parks for 99 years to uh for the city portion.

The lease was amended twice, once in July of 2015, and once in February 2016 to add additional land and to add a trail connection to the Lake Lake Trail, which is nearby.

And then this third amendment would add land on the western edge of the peninsula, which will connect Burke Park of Heritage Park and Settlers Lake.

Alright.

And we must address this is in uh municipal services, council admission.

Thank you.

Council of the corner, this is a uh thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Uh first one appreciate the team to work here for work on this.

Um another step chair to bring people to their waterfront.

Um this is people's waterfront, and another great step forward uh metropolks in the city to bring folks to the their own waterfront.

So really sorry, just a quick question on the chair to the commissioner.

Is this where the trucks were parked?

Is this like that?

Where's this truck storage area?

You need um through the chair council number the the boat trade storage.

Yeah, like the right, okay.

And then is this do we is the city still all this or metro parks?

We own it's three parcels actually um because I remember we like five years from the renewal to the lasse we can do uh because so that's right, through the chairs and the comments that seem to have it's it's three separate parcels.

Metro Curse is just leasing a portion of it, just like the 15 feet right on the western edge for the trail.

So we'll remain with you know just not part of the lease of the city.

Okay, so do the chairs negotiate, is there a reasonable using all the parcel to the metro parks?

Um you know, to the chair and council, we just kind of wanted to see how plans unfold as you know metro parks has recently released an RPEM on the peninsula, and we just kind of wanted to start with this, get the trail bill, um, see how things go, and then it's you know, we may be open to that, just then.

Okay, I would just say we to be human metro parks, I believe, open that with the river's always hard to bring the northwest so I'll just say the north there.

Um chairman to the team at the table, metro parks don't go to the correct chair to the commissioner.

Chief, chair of the chief.

No, thank you for the chair because in the public.

Uh yes, we own a property.

Okay, so I would just say um Mr.

Chairman to the team here.

Obviously, I think the highest investor use for this is park space.

Um, or some sort of multiple, you know, whatever that might look like.

And so I would just encourage the city to continue to work in a great uh client of our land or maybe all the great sort of growing land.

So I would just hope that I know we will just hope that we continue to work with them on the rest of this land.

Uh because it makes sense to me for the metro parks to control it.

But that's just my two sets.

Thank you.

Uh CNN of the questions ordered as number 8035 stands approved at least I want to think of some books.

Next one is ordered number 990 2025 by council members of Griffin by pardoning requests and a regular board is authorizing the director of parts of recreation to apply for and accept a grant from Cleveland Garden's chair for the baseball and softball summer unless the commission chairman uh body.

This uh rent of $8,000 is for the equipment supplies for the entire baseball software in the division of recreation.

Any access funds have to be uh purchase that those items to the repair of baseball fields.

Right.

Thank you.

So just a couple of questions.

Um you control or who control the actual maintenance of ball fields.

Is that not capital that is actually you guys control the maintenance of that or park sort of so the chair, yes, um part the division of park maintenance controls and maintenance and then up keyboard.

Okay.

Um how do you make those determinations because you have another three logical meetings in uh field?

So permissions this year.

Just trying to make sure I understand how do you maintain the dragon or when do you make those determinations on uh how you might upbeat those things?

So this is a capacity.

We do it by permits.

So we try to make sure that all the permitted fields are up for play and that's okay.

So we do the best we can deliver season as well.

Um right now we're focused on least structure and redirecting um our crews for better maintenance okay.

Now who does the leads in uh to wheel skills, right?

Uh through the chair uh very in fields, my commission of program operation.

Okay.

Um just our curiosity, what is your policy whenever it comes to eat or storm or that you guys call games as a makeup policy out of things?

To the chairs of your value, uh anytime that there's an RC situation with uh index in the city cleaning council external games, remove the keys inside the recreation facilities.

I think it would be good to make sure that everybody understands that clearly because I know that a couple of times I have to explain to I rate parents, you know, and that's what safety of children and plus coaches and any city officially they can identify with ideas with reason we have to make sure that we protect the children, but they don't all that policy.

So I don't know if there's any lead orientation, but maybe good for the parents just about me.

Chair, we uh send out notifications of all of the teams when we cancel meetings, and as well, I receive those sending calls from parents saying why.

Okay, but I just think most parents will not care on the side of protecting their children, but you know, some of the parents are more uh conservative child vehicles in the parents sometimes than just trying to make sure that we say so.

I just want to make sure that we got clearly communication.

Any questions uh councilman uh Mike Belissa?

Well, before I go to Councilman Mike Lisson, Councilman Bishop, did you have any comments?

I want to start on the chairs.

Uh this is one recommended question.

Thank you.

Councilman Michael.

Yeah, thank you, thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

So the commissioner, the both commissioners.

Um my question is this uh just for your thoughts and opinion, you know, what can we do to uh spur uh or entice for baseball in the city?

I mean, I can remember that we had baseball all over so we had you know we had little actual little leagues here that were recognized by the international programs that have all gone by the wayside.

I'm just I'm trying to pick your brain because you folks have been around, and I and I would say thank both of you for your dedicated service and um and for trying to do what you can with uh with the uh the dollars that you have available to me.

Any thoughts on ideas through the chair city council?

We work closely with the guardians, yeah.

So we're in the schools recruiting, but also calling parent meetings, and then to know the value of baseball.

Uh we do know that it's a dying sport in the city of Cleveland.

So there's a lot of efforts to get keys back in game in baseball.

Yeah, yeah, I built those five diamonds in comfort, Humphrey Sports California, and it was uh it was they were packed at one time, and now we can see jokes if you wise it would be not baseball team anymore.

So uh I'm not very clear how many other uh see um uh C R S Like high school even have baseball team anymore.

So I'm just wondering again, I'm only I might I'm here to be supportive.

I think we've got to figure out how to get our kids uh more involved in character activities and programs that's the way to keep them off the street.

That's what kept me off the street, and uh and again just to say thank you and uh to the career commission.

Um I know you would have a great uh great many challenges.

Um I'm hoping that going into the end of this summer season as we put together the budget.

I hope you would really let us know what do you think you need to stand for staff and equipment?

Um I'm convinced I don't believe we have enough staff, and I don't believe you have enough equipment.

That's my observation.

So uh and I I want to know all of us want to know how do we focus more on quality of life issues and those programs that are critical for our neighborhoods.

So I'm looking forward to that discussion.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And uh I also want to follow up my colleagues' comments that uh I really uh appreciate a lot of work that you guys do for recreation.

Um tell you about uh you know regulation of what's saved us right so I think this came for asking.

Any other questions regarding 99025?

Same other questions for this number nine nine zero tests in the classic.

Um just one of the main things.

I would like to reach out and talk to you former calendars player who gives them reached out to me and uh has a great program that he would like to try to see if we can integrate that aspect of that's okay.

Absolutely.

All right.

Um next one is ordered this number 9915 by council members bishop and griff and my partner request an emergency work on the director of parts recreation uh to apply for the center grant from the Ohio Department of Natural Resources.

There's an forestry for the opening of our state urban forestry resilient grant to perform young tree.

Uh I have a director.

I'm sorry.

Oh not familiar with this.

I'm not familiar with this.

Uh just thank you.

Okay.

Looks great.

Yeah.

So we uh we talked through this this morning to the chair of uh uh donation for the young tree trains, and um questions about answers for the young trees, you try to look um so that we can uh have an equal thing here and then just more than more funds available for that to plant to plant the trees and prone.

So okay.

Um did you have any quote?

Yeah, I I I would add to that that this is just for young trees, um, the most critical time of uh of the trees in its first five years of growth, and um this is a grant to help um prune and uh to prune those so that it grows in the proper direction.

Um it really is an opportunity, uh opportunity to thrive later on.

So um this is a something that we haven't had in the past uh we usually plant a tree and then forget about it.

Um gives it a little bit more opportunity to survive the first five years.

Thank you.

Uh councilman, and then I'm gonna have to council this.

Uh yes, Mr.

Chairman, we fully benefit this this morning and put the recommended best.

Thank you.

Uh councilman.

Yes, sir, thank you.

Uh Mr.

Chairman colleagues who heard you uh chief do one of the two commissioners.

Um I'm not clear who can do the one.

So we have funding, so our crew is gonna contract out.

Okay, so you'll you're gonna and this will be again across the entire city.

Yes.

Okay, and um do you think 48,000 is enough to do that?

So we've added it out, um, manager and director Nickel set it out and they seem to be pretty sure that it's something else.

Okay, because that's 2,000 trees.

That's the mayor of 2,000 trees.

And so um okay, I support that totally because part of my historical perspective is you plant trees and you have a clutch.

And um, and then come across some of those trees might be dead, uh, and then some of those trees need to be uh properly inadequately trimmed.

So what do we do with the trees that we come across that are dead?

So we're gonna change the counseling.

Do we have trees to replace those?

The goal is to for everyone to be replaced.

So that's all is in our club.

So do we so we have the funding for the replacement trees?

Okay.

I support it, Mr.

Chairman.

I I uh have a saw in my truck in my car.

Um and I return trees myself.

I used to carry a chainsaw, but then they thought it was that's a shape, so I thought I'd better not.

So um, but I I do trim trees myself.

I'm very proficient.

So but I'm not um you can't hire me to do this, okay?

So we're off but we have to trim trees.

Thank you very much.

Right.

Consider the case and then council.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Mr.

Chairman to um Chief Assistant Commissioner.

This morning we've talked about the education part of this for educating our staff regarding this.

And now you're saying this is gonna be contract.

This is work is going to be contract.

So I know this morning was because there's a city match to this, right?

So it's going to be a full of 96,000.

So then Mr.

Chairman to the commissioner, the assistant commissioner, the chief, how much of that is going to be contract out, and how much of that is going toward the education or teaching our current employees and do this work.

I'm not sure I know.

Okay.

Say it again.

I'm sorry, Commissioner.

Um apologize.

So uh could you make sure that we get that follow-up uh from Councilman Casey?

Thank you, Commissioner.

Thank you.

All right, Councilman uh Kerry McCormick.

Thank you, Chairman.

I would ask I would ask Let's say authority.

All right.

Uh all right.

Any other questions for the chairman?

Our residential expert sponsors.

Yeah, sponsor this?

Yes, please add councilman.

All right.

Okay.

Uh same other questions, ordinance number 991-2025, uh stands approved.

Please add those for right, thank you.

Uh last for this one or no, I don't think this one's yes as well.

Uh this is uh you guys want to have a moment because you depend on me.

996.

820.

I don't see what up was it introduced advanced 820.

Okay.

I don't see 820.

Oh, so that's public works.

I go public.

Okay, so 820 is the public safety is not in my box, I didn't see it.

Yes, I have to public safety.

Okay.

Alright.

Thanks.

All right.

So the next one that we have is ordinance number 996 2025 by council members here, right?

And emergency coordinates authorized the director of community development.

Is it directly committee roughly here?

I will come back.

I don't see the director of community development here, or are you I have a district chair?

Yeah, so contact the director of the development.

Yeah, we can do that piece.

All right.

Next is ordinance number 964 2025 by council members harsh, mission griffin by part number requests, an emergency coordinates giving assent to the city of Cleveland to the director of transportation of the state of Ohio How from the 220 to East Valley, IR dash 48 interest rank at Ridge Road and authorized one of the board agreements necessary to make the approval.

Correct.

Uh Mr.

Chairman, so today we have an ordinance related to an ODOC projects, and uh Chris Strutowski did such a great job this morning explaining it.

I'm gonna defer with you.

Umsky.

Thank you.

Um Chair, this project uh over that will be still in just the future with construction starting uh April of next year.

Basically they did the exit branch by the virtual road, uh Eastbound or Westbound.

Uh excuse me, that was not the Westbound's random spelling was on this council construction project.

Total cost of about 2.3 million dollars to see does not have any funds in this project all over this 964, which is the original piece.

Yeah, Mr.

President, we have this.

Uh yes, sir.

Okay.

All right, so you know the questions ordinance number 964-2025 process.

Yes, question.

Council was late.

Uh miscellaneous.

Uh council is your lesson.

Um is it protected?

Okay, so chair goes first, and then possibly.

Uh yes, thank you, Chairman.

Um the uh I have a part uh my full capital about a year and a half ago, two years ago.

I think I spoke with uh some somebody a couple of different times about my side.

We really made the park and did an excellent job.

We never put a sign up with the park, and I keep getting requests from the same individual about a park about a sign with the park program, thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Okay.

So maybe yes, I'll guess you know that thank you.

Thank you, Councilman Michael.

Thank you, thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

A lot of the problems to the director and users with possible.

I mean ODOT responsibility.

Is there a map?

Is there some type of diagram as huge and as pertains to I9 as to what exactly OGA's responsible?

And what we're I have is I'm going issue now about the ramps.

And it's where the ramps are coming off the marginal roads or going on the marginal code.

Who's responsible for that?

I'm I'm having these issues where I think holes, I mean the ramp.

Right near what I would call city right, but I just not going bad who's but the ORP doesn't want to take responsibility.

We know what we responsible for and what they are.

To the chair council member, uh certain situations, so you understand what we're doing at we can check that out with certain responsibilities are ours.

So we know exactly where you want to.

South bottle and road, the entrance range in a nine point each.

There are big ruts and holes right along the ground.

Um it's time to sort of have so thank you.

I'm just I have the time where we got the back report, so thank you very much.

We'll take a look at your thank you.

Thank you.

Um questions for 964, 2025 same or questions.

964 2025.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Someone can talk to the DPS or talk to community development.

There is a piece that we have for community development that they need to have someone here at 996-2025.

I touched it.

Okay.

All right, the uh first one is ordinance number 970 2025 by council member crypto by parliament requests and emergency board is to make additional corporations of 1 million eight hundred thousand dollars to the special revenue fund.

Through the chair of the committee, so the price of um rock salt has gone substantially um since we budgeted since the beginning of the year.

So this is a request to transfer 1.8 million dollars to purchase that across all the streets.

Most of these funds are being taken from other places in public works with 500,000 finance from the cities from the department uh assessments and licenses.

Um that is outlined to importance 2025 on today's agenda.

Okay.

Uh just our curiosity, why is Bike and Rocksaw?

What was the I thought that we have that we work with the state, and I thought that we have a fixed rate with the state, and we do that with standing some years by year.

So the chair of the councilperson, uh we do work for the state, the state was ready for rates uh for this year and formed us that it's not almost a double.

Uh we need to close the close over now, so we have a console on paying the search system.

So the price is really went off through the state.

I I get that.

I'm just wondering if anybody done an assessment with the state to say why.

I mean, you know, you're hard to get to a multi-year agreement or the doctor to agreement, and then someone just arbitrarily just starts checking up the rates.

So I just really want to understand that.

I think uh directly there is one adjustment.

So uh I think I have a leader, which is just one T conference.

So you can see Trust President that that uh that contract, the statewide contract that it happens every two years, somewhere on the one that you can see how the price of the distributed throughout the country is some time is gonna hire some levels, and then that was dependent on how that contract is so it's an anticipation of that, that's what we're able to do.

So that goes back into my original question.

It looks like any car came with uh it wasn't just the industry, more than the compass, it looks like hard they would actually add a significant paper since that.

Yes, and then again, that the contract that date and the stable line the week, you know, just wrong with that contract, so whatever happens with that contract requirement.

They don't take you into consideration logistics and how far they have to take your money on looking at, for example, uh you know, it takes a longer route to get to start counting, but they pay less than our Ushills.

Um to be honest with you, Chair, I can't say it can't explain why they have to.

So we we have to be able to look at the most balls under contract and whatnot.

I can't answer that.

So we usually handle this purchase that's strictly uh your missionary streets, Mr.

So here's what I would like to do with this and the gesture.

Uh don't want an operation.

I'd like to understand how we make that assessment.

And you've got to be some kind of way that we're testifying that just because somebody passed the own prices as a name that we might need to go to different provider, or we need to challenge the state's prices.

I'm just interested in having to get somebody's price up by twice the amount, and then nobody can be able to justification actually doesn't say smoothly doesn't say right, but I'm just curious.

Okay.

Uh and we can be able to copy that jury.

Okay.

Maybe that I can I can email the students.

Yes.

You know to uh ask me uh this adjustment because uh staff is committed to okay.

Okay, uh any other questions regarding ordinance number 970 plus 2025 uh council that right case thank you, Mr.

Chairman to the director.

Are we currently under contract with corona?

So through the chair to the council, this is a cooperative agreement, so we buy some trying to do it on our own past prices were a lot more.

So the cooperative is typically the more price trust, but that contract is uh state.

All right, Mr.

Chairman to the director.

When is when does our co-op up with that?

So this one is removed.

This is the twenty two thousand twenty-six, so they usually go by annual uh contract.

Okay, so if this co-op agreement doesn't end until 2026, correct.

Why are you here now?

Why don't we just include this in the budget for 2026?

We have to make through the chair to the council, we have to make the purchases now with the contract works as you get them now because that's the way to send it up because they're making all the allocations, so what we have to do now before you want to be agreed.

And Mr.

Chairman, to the to the director, we didn't see this, we didn't see this coming.

But I did not get the information.

Yeah, we can through the chair to the council.

We didn't ask this until after our budget were passed.

So we allocated for this if we had known this was coming, but this didn't come until I want to say through the chair to the council property.

I want to say it was in June to be found out.

All right.

So Mr.

Chairman's director, we we budgeted correctly 2020, in the 2025 budget that we passed in January.

We passed a budget that included this co-op agreement that we're currently in for the 2025-2026 cycle.

Correct.

Clear.

Yeah, through the chair to the council, and then that the rates at the time were 49.97.

And then after this change in the Chair Council, the rates went up to 63,000.

Okay, so Mr.

Chairman's director, when we passed the budget in February 2025, you would just the administration was under the assumption that this price would not go up.

Correct.

And then we were going to keep that same price for 2025 and 2026.

All right, and then Mr.

Chairman to the to the director, if this council says no to this piece of the 1.8 million, what are our options?

You're the chair to the councilman RPC would happen is to have to actually need to, I think we signed our happen on this contract.

So I don't know if we can back up.

Well, Mr.

Chairman, the director, with all the respect, I won't say in one point that we've signed onto a contract, right?

And we're because then you're obligated to a contract and then come to us saying they're trying to change the terms of your contract, which is not a contract, but you tell us it's a co-op agreement.

So we can't you can't you can't save one saying we're in the contract for because the contract will spell out the specific pricing of it, and then come to us saying they're changing the contract or co-op, whatever term you're using here in the middle of it.

Correct?

Uh through the cheer to the council uh I'd like to I want to get back to it.

Okay.

All right, and the the original question, Mr.

Chairman's director, is what are our options?

Can we can the city just go directly to Cardio across the street here and try to negotiate our own?

Or you know, are we just saying, oh, the state is saying we need to do this so we'd like to so through the trade to the council if we don't have an obligation on our contract, but at least we could have to do on our try to uh make our own contract that we don't have to pass, it's just been a lot for both if we had to go.

All right, I mean that's something Mr.

Chairman to the director, then if they're gonna raise it to that price, I mean how much more would it be if we decided that we're gonna contract with Cardinal ourselves?

I don't want to jump the gun allocating 1.8 million dollars uh to something that could be avoided if we just did the research in the work before just saying, hey, the state says we're raising this style to give us the money and not your year pass with the money.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Thank you.

But I think you know, uh great kind of question, but I think the big exit should be the state.

And that's where I think we had the problem a couple of years ago that we had to push hard back on the state because they didn't want to do it with business with local companies, they didn't want to do it with local structure.

And um, you know, uh but if I'm getting the director again, is that um I think it's more or less a contract, but we got a contract to protect ourselves better with the state that there's no need a certain percentage of increase and and that just not getting back to up 14 dollars or fair without doing any justification.

I mean, I know they won't want to say gas, they won't probably say other things, but if that's the case, then some of those subversions, or some of those counties that I say on the list as far as an exceptional line to be paying a part of the same.

So I don't know why there's a discrepancy, but somehow they need to explain it.

I really don't know if Mr.

Jet wants to explain that, but that's something that Mr.

Justin, I think we're gonna do for parking and uh operational, so that we need to have to understand the city that's what I don't want to do is not ask this and then in another month because that's in another month later, and then the left month, you don't have to get a salt and people are like buying the road assumption.

So I just want to understand how we make that decision, but I think that's more of an operational.

There's the jet out.

This is a two-year contract, so 25 to 26.

So the whole contract was 40 million dollars or whatever it was.

That's over, but the state bids these out.

I can't speak to why Central Islands less than murder amount.

I mean, that doesn't make any sense to me either.

Um we do bid this out competitive, but we would also have to bid it out compatible with the city wanted to do itself.

Which they could do, we would have to just put out a bit, but we'd have to be bought the uh seal that loss of economy.

That's something we could do.

Mr.

Learn said that the past we've done in it, but usually it's mostly all that goes higher than the water cost.

All right, Mr.

But thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Mr.

Chairman to the director and to the deal uh instructor.

I guess why just so the one point eight million?

Is that the total amount we're gonna spend for salt, or is that just a portion?

That's through the chair to the council.

That's the additional amount.

So the total amount would be what uh so right now we're currently at through the cheer to the council we got uh 2.2, so that'd be about four million.

About four million for salt this year.

Do you know uh how much we have left over uh that are in our our stockpiles?

Through the cheer to the council probably about maybe five or ten thousand we use a lot of support, so we got to stock back up.

Our requirement is about eighty something funds.

So yeah.

Okay.

And you and the dollar not you give us the 63, what was that per fund?

639, 63.

63.99 per time.

Yes.

And that's what we we paid directly, or how does that work?

How does that work?

Yeah.

So we do that contract.

No, we actually paid through the chair to the councilman.

We actually paid the supplier for the contract works for the state.

Okay, so David or not negotiates the dollar for all the municipalities.

Through the chair to the screen.

So we also then this year approximately $4 million for SALT.

Through the chair to the council.

So we have we have the contract gives us up to $70,000.

We less 63.

So we can do either a low $4 million or 4.4 million.

And we paid at our previous amount per times how much?

$49,000.

So I think I think that's important for the viewing public to understand what it costs the city, i.e.

the taxpayers to pay for some of the most what we would want to say most of the fundamental um products that we have to buy salt and salt, but you don't have it, we got a problem switching and ISAP conditions as we experienced last year with the defree's absolute.

So four million and my other last question is are have all the salt those been repaired?

Through the tier two of the council, we have uh no, no, there are two that are still probably not even this year.

We have the two, there's two that are in the works right now.

So even the ones that need to be repaired is the is our supply of salt pretty much safe.

Through the chair to the company, yes, but the salt will be safe, it's just happened.

Um again to the to the director to the buying track, repairing the salt levels are important because salt melts, and if there's water penetration, uh it's like we're throwing our money in the lake.

And so I want to make sure that there's a because we've been talking internally about capital repairs and city buildings, and we really have to step back and really assess where we're at maintaining our city buildings, our city structures, etc.

Because in a long run, that'll that'll commercially either pay now or pay later.

And unfortunately we've paid uh we pay much later all the time at a higher cost.

So again, I want to reinforce the both in general um and to the administration, and we gotta get the salt over prepared and make sure that they are fully stocked going into this one.

You're telling us that the table will be fully stocked.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Thank you.

Do we have any other questions regarding 970 2025?

Um question 970 2025 stands approved.

Thank you.

Uh next one is 971-2025 by council member by partnering requests and emergency ordinance to provide for the transfer and amendment of one eight hundred thousand dollars with and the general fund.

Yeah, through the chair of the committee so one was just asked.

Um, so this outlines where we're taking the funds or the savings from so the majority of it is 1.3 million of it is just being moved in public works for this, and then the additional 500,000 since public works did not have enough savings.

Uh it's being uh provided by finance and party assessments and licenses to make public works whole.

Any questions counsel officials regarding 9715?

Any other questions, council official?

Uh question.

All right, any other questions regarding 971 S 2025?

Well, that's yeah, uh just briefly for being public displaying what transpired.

So I mean for the direct.

Yeah, director, can you just tell the public so that take the cut at the end of this double book or double deal to 1.8 that will have it to show I transfer some place?

Yeah, so um through the chair councilman.

Um we actively looked for savings in other places in public works and savings for salaries because not all their positions were filled uh throughout the year.

So we used some of that savings, um also some other expenses that they had that um you know came in cheaper than what we had budgeted.

Uh so we used that, however, they didn't have enough total savings covered 1.8 uh finance also had some um personnel savings because not all salaries were paid out, so we took 500,000 out uh to support public works on this.

So Ms.

Chairman, so it is again this is a transfer ordinance, correct?

Through the chair of the councilman, that's correct.

But so why would we wait till as we normally do transfer ordinance?

Through the chair of the council, then because we want to make sure we have the funds available to buy the salt as soon as possible with one sort of project.

Okay, so you didn't um were in critical positions left unfilled in public service through the chair to the councilman, no critical positions.

Obviously, we want to make sure that uh our vacancies get filled in a timely manner.

Um we just happen to have some that we can pull from some savings from, but there were critical positions from it.

Okay.

So I keep because I'm gonna keep asking us for going in the winter, or if we're gonna have our full compliments, mobile house, drivers, all the support personnel that we need in light of the action we're taking there.

Correct.

None of those none of these funds are coming from the streets and then for the people somebody who we put paid out of the street.

So uh and this is savings that we had from vacancies from January until now.

So these vacancies will not take these out next year, and these divisions were taking them out of to be able to fill these next year.

We're putting them at we're not taking them out from the savings uh from January from the buttons.

You helped concern the council as that you just did not get positions that were not filled.

And so, you know, as I said one of our previous piece of legislation came up here, is that I don't believe we have enough personnel, and I don't believe we have enough equipment some of the departments and dimensions to do the jobs that we need to do.

So again, I'm I like to say administration is I hear this all the time that well we didn't take funds from positions that are not filled, but I want to make sure positions are filled so I can get the service without the my residency.

That's what I want.

Um not only the buyer residents on behalf of my colleagues as well.

So be mindful, um again, you know, you can pay now or pay later.

Remember that unfortunately pay later too often.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

And on that point, just uh as uh Mr.

Jesper was taking notes.

One of the things removed when we watched the operation and have a good understanding on if we uh allocate budgeted positions, and we guys chose not to do it, and we want to understand why those positions were not filled.

Um very interested in the areas where we asked for supplemental employment for recreation and recreation centers that those have been field.

Um so just want to let everybody know that those are not in the field, and uh that's when we have the other decisions we make before where we have our disposal.

Okay.

Alright.

Uh same other questions for this number 971 asked 2025 standards.

Last but not least, is ordinance number 979 2025 comes to member curriculum by the part of the request that emergency board is authorized to direct our finance to pay as moral claims that someone's opposite the names of the claims.

Correct.

Through the chair of the committee, so uh this is a request to allow payment of claims branded by the World Claims Commission.

Uh the total amount is $2,497 and 15 cents.

Uh just to break it down a bit, 800 dollars of that was for an SM that was broken um during uh landscaping and of the uh area.

Uh 297 dollars and fifteen cents was from damage to a vehicle, the resident vehicle uh in the copper.

Uh $100 was from uh a tree branch that fell uh onto a parked vehicle, and that's the deductible for this individual.

Um and $800 was for another headstone that was damaged in the same way from rowing along landscape.

Uh the final $500 was uh due to a water aid break and the resident tried to drive through that and their car was damaged.

Um $500, I believe uh is due to fire rescue had to be called.

Um so there was a rescue in that situation.

There's five thousand dollars in damages, but five hundred and that is the deductible.

Um I also have Commissioner Romero here, excuse me, further questions on these individual parole using system.

Chairman was sure, and uh before we put a commissioner, Commissioner Merrill for someone just talked about the composition of the committee because I sell councilman county and counseling the owners and to the chair, um yes, sir.

So it's uh a few members of council and two members of the administration.

Okay, uh Councilman Michael Bliss.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Mr.

Chairman, to uh whoever can answer at the table for the viewing public.

So when they file when someone believes their property has been damaged, or the will for a fact their property has been damaged by um whatever by an action by the city or whatever, or a fault of a city employee or driver, whatever.

Um especially in the case of a vehicle, you only reverse what you decide to cover the deductible, is that correct?

To the chairman to uh council first that has to be reported in a particular case, uh the pothole has to be reported prior to the incident occurring or the damage was to the vehicle.

So if we don't have any notice at that point, then we don't have an obligation.

Uh in this particular case, there was notice we do have a record of the house.

We weren't able to get out there at the time doing it before the action there for that vehicle.

Okay, but then you cover the deductible.

That is correct.

Okay, so for the viewing public, if there is a pothole on your street, you need to call three one more.

Correct.

If there's a limb now in the street, uh or it's from the city tree tree painting, you need to log by three one more.

I continue to try to educate my own residents as best as I can as to be proactive when they see something and say something.

Um, because I myself get these calls and these complaints after the fact, and I remind everybody to make a police report.

Um many cases, or majority, they did make a police report.

Did they take a picture?

No, I didn't take a picture.

So I think again to the view in public, I just want everyone to be aware.

Um if you see a road hazard, um, if there's something that's gonna affect your neighborhood, your street, um, please report it in because if someone does have misfortune of uh driving into something or getting something or being affected, unless there's a police report, unless there's documentation, your chances of getting something out of the moral claims commission is like uh the council president parting late eatery, it ain't going to happen.

Okay, it won't happen.

So again, I want to reinforce that to the citizens watching.

So to uh council president or uh Mr.

Flint, Mr.

Councilman said the particular issue with the tree bill was it's funny clear that the tree after we went and inspected the tree was dead, so that there is a difference between because there could be a tree that's healthy, but because of the storm breaks you down, that wouldn't happen to see.

In this particular case, we should have expected about the treatment, then we did have to do that, and that's why we have these people.

Well, and I didn't again you're educator public that tree reported uh report any uh tree.

Any damage to that tree limbs any that needs to be reported.

So again, we all have to be proactive.

Thank you.

Right, thank you.

Any uh counsel grant for the case?

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman, Mr.

Chairman to the director.

Um Captain Merrick was bringing that's right.

So what happens if we buy in the city's deposition somebody does not have insurance and uh there is no deductible bank?

To the chair here, Councilman Casey, uh we think I'll into account uh again we look at uh a situation if they only have insurance.

First of all, it has to be uh moral claims is the word leading out.

We we don't have liability legally, so the law department best at that point where we determined that there is no legal liability on part of the city at that juncture.

Uh the law department offers them the opportunity to go through the moral claims commission uh to be uh view uh are we very austere that that is a fact.

Uh fact is that when we look at all factors that come into play and in that particular scenario, we are going to look at there's been times when you pay tens of counseling.

So we take every case on its own merits.

So if somebody has insurance, you're just gonna pay the deductible.

If they don't have insurance, there's a possibility that you could pay for the complete damage.

That is true.

Again, those are commissioner for 16 years.

And so we can have one characters.

Okay, I'm just one.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We have a few resources.

I don't know what he's got personally.

Okay.

And it would be the list 1950s, right?

Alright.

Or is number 10 69 pass 2025 by Council Member Griffin by part of the request?

An emergency ordinance to admit section 49 of orders number 194 2021 passed March 29 2021 as amended by various ordinances relating to related to for various classifications.

This is the one unique group in collective bargaining that the city does not actually have a direct agreement with this union.

This comes from a master agreement that is reached, excuse me, between the local 18 laborers and the MCE OLA.

So we abide by the terms that they reach and pay our place publicly.

Thank you.

Approval the collective parking agreement with the communication order is over there.

Local 4340 to end to a man section.

Thank you again, Chairman.

So this is correct to ratify the collective art agreement which between the city and CWA for the EMT supervisors.

Also known as the captain's unit, there's approximately 16 employees in this group.

And just in terms of base wages, which I know is sometimes a question came out to be 2.89, 2.96, and 2.89 respectively each year, each of the years of the product department pretty much.

We have any questions regarding 1070 2025.

CNO questions ordinance number 1070 2025 will be considered by the full council.

So amended section 37, 39, and 43.

Thank you, Chairman.

This is a piece as a result of some additional uh due diligence done by the civil service department uh in relation to the analysis of positions, uh specifically Article 37.

This is to amend the salary for the chief architect.

Um primarily increasing uh the maximum salary and also pay the minimum salary um uh person to the market.

Um sections 39 and 43 uh address the administrative manager classification.

So uh again uh console service analysis uh in conjunction with the HR department.

Um we determined that uh it would be best for the administrative manager position to be split into two administrative manager uh positions, uh thus created series.

So there's an entity if you will an entry-level administrative manager and an administrative manager two that again also includes uh an analysis of the salaries uh the administrative manager um setting their salary uh between 65,000 and 80,000, and then the administrative manager two, which is a higher level administrative manager going from 80,000 to 170,000.

The administrative manager setting their salary between 65,000 and 80,000.

And then the administrative manager two, which is a higher level administrative manager, going from 80,000 to 17,000.

And then finally, project manager two.

And again, this is you know in an effort not to restrict this position to only one department, but to be able to be used citywide.

So the question is what is number 1087 gas 2025 or full consideration once the council tonight.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

We do have one more piece.

This is ordinance number 996 2025 by Council Mills Terranis and Griffith by Park and request an emergency ordinance authorizing the director of community and governments answering to contract number CT 8006 SG 2024 as 150 with Kyle Home County Landization Corporation to change certain terms of the meeting.

Thank you, uh President.

So this ordinance amends ordinance 125, 2024 and 740 2025 to enable the um the county landing to modify this contract with us.

As an ordinance is for a neighbor requirements at 54 homes at the rehabbed and wards 410 and 15, which was done in error as the original this project specified at 24 of the 54 homes to be citywide.

This amendment would fix that issue and allow the 24 homes to be do construction if done in partnership with a nonprofit like Habitat or humanities.

So this is one of the outgoing pieces that Tony Bagel was being through to his meeting.

I will answer as many questions as I can with his actions.

Sure, this was actually relieved by uh councilman here.

He asked me reached out to me to ask that I put this on the agenda important system.

Um thank you to the director.

So these are existing homes that are in the land bank.

Um so these are uh three chair and these are I believe it's for um targeted acquisition and of the vacant and abandoned properties purposes of renovation program um and for unification pilots county landing, just to just to be clear.

So then they would go to Habitat.

Um this is this uh could be in partnership with an organization that would have a nonprofit, yes, and so do we know Habitat is on board or not?

Um I was giving habitat as an example.

I don't believe that they have been a contract, but it was given as an example.

What I believe that this does is gives us some more flexibility that was originally a DINT the intent of the program and that that was missed in the actual and then what would the funds come from the recap structure?

Um chair this was an existing um uh program.

Um I'm wondering if it was ARC dollars.

I want to say that it is originally ARPA dollars.

There have been a few permutations, so um, I I can't say that out of the parkments.

Um Chairman, but I believe that these are ARCA dollars or no, because Mr.

Chairman, I support that the concept of the Nashman as it might be added to need to rehab more homes.

Um, and I think my own observation is far too many homes being down in the city that had good homes that could have put back productive use had they been uh had we've had the the uh the county land bank and the sheriff's uh through foreclosure action maybe the fire structures rather than just letting them sit down and rock and we've seen all of the city other stuff like drive around.

Um, and I just say to myself, why is this home just sitting here?

Why is it in this condition?

But we would look at an all tax delivery, and there's the the interview system is incredibly hard.

That's something that we are going to have to collectively at the end of this year or going into the next year, the council and the administration, we're gonna have to figure out uh how do we partner with the county for the county to move on to the family structures?

They just sit there and sit there and sit there and I look at them constantly, and I have well one near me, and I just keep asking myself why does this house just sit there?

So again, Mr.

Chairman, I supported a lot of the Naspernity added to the legislation.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And through the chair, just want to mention that at our last cluster meeting, I'd like to say we actually had um the executive director now come to uh cluster um with some of his staff, including Dennis, and we are continuing to strengthen that relationship.

This is probably the strongest um that that our relationship as an administration has been years.

Uh in Rose and East Cleveland uh development off the ground to have any more changes.

All right.

Any other questions?

Councilman California?

What boards were those in?

You said the boards, boards.

Through the chair and uh that's awards five, ten, and fourteen, and that this is to uh to expand up to all the boards, um, which was the original intent for our portion of these uh homes.

And how many homes is going to be for you?

Um substantive is the renovation at a minimum of 54 homes and strategically target targeted areas to create affordable housing for the general public.

So 54 homes and a minimum of 24 for new construction housing units after the chair.

Perfect.

All right, thank you.

All right, so you know the question is ordinance number 996 stands 2025 stands approved.

Please sign it on.

Once again, why do we want to adjourn?

We've gonna start.

Oh, uh miscellaneous.

So Miss Finance comes to the table, Council of Kids a couple of things.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Mr.

Chairman's air, I'm just curious, right?

Over the summer, a lot has changed aesthetically looking here in City Hall, there's been a lot of signage.

Um signage has been changed.

Um furniture that's been around, we see some more and I don't know if those are permanent installations.

Can you tell us how much it has cost to redo all this signage?

Where the money has come from the chair of the councilman, something that I've got to look up.

I don't think we give you a bad number on the top of my head.

Um we can't vote with that information.

Is that would that would that be public works?

I'm not sure.

Um or there is money that went into the transformative parts.

So the art pieces may be for the transformative part, uh money that we put aside, and then the actual site may be okay.

But my guess that's what the administration tells.

Can you do if you if you could possibly just find that on force let us know how I'm hearing a bunch of different big numbers, and I just don't want to believe this term?

That's what they were, that's what they are.

Um, because that would cause a problem if it was that much.

Um but if you just like that on force and then let us know what we appreciate that through the chair and the council new thank you.

Someone, I still want to give it a verify, but our policy staff is getting to dig it on it and say that yeah it was 658,000 to sign it.

So came from uh that's what I got to look for.

That's what the administration said was that if you if you could, but it looks um like this group called the general brothers, F-E-G-A-L-I.

So it looks like they got the contract to do it for about 658 hours.

And do we know if any legislation came to council regarding I have to look that up at any legislation that would do it everything?

So if you just we're curious to know what this costs and if you could let us know if we want to better whatever.

We have all the both thank you.

Mr.

Chairman, a little shell shot 600 percentage?

That's what I let them verify that, but that's what our staff was able to pull up.

Is that included back at all?

Let me say this.

That's what my staff pulled up.

Let them verify with us so that we can have to add back to a number, but what they were able to pull up with the contract with any other brothers was that about and they're the ones that are responsible for the side.

Well, Mr.

Chairman, let's I don't know.

Anything over $50,000 has to come before Cooking City House.

So that's why we need to say if that number is correct, that's absolutely shocking.

Shocking and disturbing and lighting up everything else we need around here.

I mean, I got bunch of boards holding my door together.

I got bunch of boards.

And the range are I got pools of water inside my office.

Where are we?

Where are we putting the renovation of the outside of City Hall?

Can somebody tell us where we're at on that?

Through the chair of the councilman again.

In terms of construction and progress on that, then we want to vocably.

But in terms of money, it's uh again, I can't verify 658,000 at this moment.

Let us go back.

We'll look over the case.

Okay.

I need to know respectfully through the chair, but through you and the staff.

I want to know where we are with the renovation outside renovation of city hall and what the dollar amount is as of this point and what the total dollar amount was for that time frame.

And then again, besides the signage, and if that's what the signage costs, I don't know if it's that gold leaf, must be gold leaf design.

Okay.

Um I mean I understand what the other cost is for all this furniture and everything else that's been done on this side because again, I want to reiterate the road that firehouse instead of horrible condition.

We through this with the help of the chair and my colleagues, we were able to pass the 21 million to start to repair the five police districts.

But if you go into these firehouses and look at the crappy furniture they have and the conditions that they're and then we're spending that kind of money for signage inside the city, that's correct.

Something uh we gotta get our correct destruction.

I'm one of those who believe that anything over 50,000 bucks got to come back to the council, because if not, there's got to be pain at the pump here.

That's not the way we operate on it.

Thank the chairman and council McCasey for uh attempting to address this issue.

And I hope we can get to the bottom of Mr.

Chairman quickly.

Um is finding verify if that is the amount of technology, that is the amount, where did the money come from?

And then number two, I think um if we can make sure the follow-up on Mr.

Jesco uh if we passed any legislation that actually supports this.

Um I'm not sure if there's an honor this piece, like for example, and that costs included in what we did for the building when we did the overall building.

I'm just trying to make sure how that actually can't stop and how that legislature is testified because we can't do it.

Alright.

Uh Sam on the questions.

Uh this committee of finance diversity and inclusion is adjourned once again right there going to start at seven sharp, and uh we are not allowing excused accesses unless it is some kind of extreme emergency that can be verified.

All the councils expected to be here.

Okay, thank you so much.

Can you help me also money?