And they are having parts.

Where would those um employees, how would they be affected by this third party when they're coming in and losing the office of two chairs?

They would not be affected.

Their roles might change a little bit, but as far as what the day operation would be, but they would still be involved with the parts of distribution and management of those parts.

Okay.

And director, so the uh the our urban AI has uh done some process acting with other departments to kind of help them do their processes uh and try to find uh better ways to work more efficiently.

Have you worked with uh the urban AI department any kind of way to to uh kind of talk about this whole process or get any help with this process?

So uh to the chair now with everybody as we work with them on the other projects, um, but because of the extent, um the amount of time that we dealt with this and the at least the current experience that we had, um we we just find this at the right time to necessity would know we have not been currently specifically on this project.

Okay, all right, director, also can you talk about can you get a little bit more specific on the cost that it would have to the city uh any kind of cost more forward or more annual basis?

Any kind of savings that we with the processing on this project uh to the chair.

We would be able to really look at those services based on it after we go to our PR, but with the cost savings is going to come into the the management of costly capacity parts.

That is gonna be huge.

Uh just we have no outlet to get rid of house and cost other than to just oxen.

And by the time we have the terminal process, they they almost have no line.

And just so the whole management of the the parts and time, what's coming in and what's going out is really this is key, plus the fact of getting you know the qualified technicians back out to the door in making those labor hours uh uh reduced our increase of efficiency over here right now.

Okay.

All right, we'll go to council.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Mr.

Chairman to uh to the director of commissioner um a little bit by this piece of legislation uh in your own admittance in your presentation uh in slide two.

Um you indicated that there's 15 people by landing up right 15 people who are um in charge of doing the jobs that we want to outsource.

Um then you tell us that um we're gonna outsource this, but that nobody's gonna lose their jobs, um, although we're replacing 15 jobs.

Um so either one or two things is going on.

Um either um we have the option of not believing that somebody's not gonna lose their job, or you're admitting that for the last 20 years or so you have not been running an efficient shop um over there, right?

And I don't want to believe the second part because I overnight seen everything.

Um but something doesn't add up for those with this with this legislation, right?

It looks like we're trying to outsource something that we've been doing, but that nobody's gonna lose a job, right?

We're not here um I believe to uh be in the role of passing legislation to put people out.

Right?

So either something has not been functioning over there as effective as it should be, or people are gonna lose their job.

Absolutely.

No, that to the chair to the council and that is a fairly concerned, and that's why we're gonna make sure they're in the layouts.

Again, one of the things I mentioned is we have four or so mechanics that are doing no booty.

In fact, you know, when I get to the finance system, there's an end that I would see hundreds of times, which is actually the candidate.

But these processing inputs.

As opposed to being that one for, you know, so we've got like four still candidates that are going to go through.

That's one thing.

Also, to your point, yes, we're not at the level that we should be in that way.

A piece like this will help us actually better be here and be more efficient.

So no, there won't be any layoffs because uh again, that one post the window in our business throughout our happens.

So we're trying to get to a place no different than how we have tractors and make the properties because we have a we have a blind spot.

Again, we talk about Austin Pless, you know, say good as your parts, those kind of things.

We are really behind the law.

Sometimes when we come here and actual vehicle acquisition is not a part of this, because you all know that sometimes we tell you there's probably a uh you know two-year lead time to do it um uh vehicles.

We'll say we have the parts, and if you're not gonna count on the park to be able to make those um um acquisitions quickly, then you're buying equals.

So this is not about laying folks off.

If we're up to the I'd like to have more folks, I still have enough, but we have to do what we have to work what we have.

But in this case, this contract is really going to act and it's what we do.

And then Mr.

Chairman's the director, I guess with that explain, should I have to be like the second portion of Michael Week was the one that we're paying toward because we shouldn't have um mechanics doing the ordering, like you said, it's just it's it's not efficient.

So as opposed to outsourcing um this portion, why can't we just employ somebody um who's um so that the mechanics can come back to doing the mechanics work, and we have somebody who's actually um employed by the city of Cleveland who knows our procurement process and everything, um, and just hire them to run the stores officially.

For just for clarification, there are not 15 people with Robin's operator, it's a total set.

So there's our there out of those seven store books that we operate, four of those are operated by storekeepers and the certificate storekeeper.

Three of them are staffed by technicians.

So there's not 50 of them certainly clarify that the update uh in with this model, the only people that would be impacted would be those four those three storekeepers in the one certain storekeeper.

But as I said, they would be integrating into this process, which would actually you know overall reduce the overall cost of what this program would be because we have a vendor additional personnel to week, you'll utilize personnel that we don't have.

So, Mr.

Chairman, to the commissioner, you're saying for 4.9 million dollars, correct?

If I'm reading it, the 4.9 million to the church on the 4.9 million dollars is what we are already spending on the process, our annual parts spend across those seven stores of your spending four point million.

And then that's a that's in the um commissioner that's uh our annual budget.

That's the way that's popular.

Yes.

So our and then we're looking for to hire this company for 1.2 million a year to come in and run our stores.

For the parts regulatory process, yes.

And how long are you looking for this for three years?

For three years.

So three point six million over three years, and you expect a savings of how much, Mr.

Shepard's in the commissioner?

Okay.

I I would expect to see a cost savings not only in dollars and sense, but the efficiency as well as the amount of vehicles in the turbine time was that we're able to put out additional reduced the amount of inputs that we actually uh process that hundreds of hundreds of inputs will get reduced to you know tens of kilometers of so there's a there's going to be a cost things across the board of higher operation.

The one point two is the highest, but then we don't know until we actually get the RP to do work.

All right.

So Mr.

Chairman Sidney to the director, um I'm still not as you know, it looks like we're outsourcing, right?

It's what it looks like, right?

Um I'm not I'm not a fan of outsourcing city, city work that's being done by city employees.

And I understand I get it, right?

We don't want people double doing all other stuff, but uh some something's not lining up right here for me.

So thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Thank you, sir.

All right, thank you, Councilman Casey bringing up some great points.

Um councilman.

Uh thank you to the chair to the director.

I I have the same concerns if that minor council case you have to employees here.

What is your marketing?

What do you mean?

So the uh technicians are in C local in the storekeepers in the uh store keeper is a total one.

And then to the chair to the director, so you say they won't lose your job.

It's somebody else who's gonna be overseeing it.

I mean, who's who's what are they managing?

What are the hundred people or no?

And we pay like about five million proposition and pay this new outfit million two hundred thousand to make it more efficient.

So I imagine that can be a marketing management, they're gonna be shaped from sending employees.

It would be an opt outside contract.

So they oversee our employees.

No, no, they would not oversee I say on our employees, but we'll see their operations.

And then the outer while these seven individuals they definitely still put there in the shop.

So in that warehouse, or that marketing.

I want to make sure that the real had to be three because there's four weekends.

So those four mechanics are going to be in the one.

So those four won't be impacted by this real folks that we're looking at those three in my experience.

You don't trust vendors just couldn't carve much.

These three individuals would be able to be on the deal and do those kind of things all to see what's happening.

That's a that's a lot of work.

That's not just something we keep back, and what somebody gives reports that's work.

But ultimately, what we want to be able to do is even if we did hire more folks in our mind, we still can't take it because obsolescence, we still can't take it in the point price for it to work in the market so quickly just because of our purchasing process.

That's just the way we go as a company set up.

Those three individuals, those three local storekeepers, are going to have a role to be able to keep these uh these contractors monitor.

Okay, but the chair team there, so that we're working on the microphone.

They can do any work in that shop.

I mean, take any work that the storekeepers do, or they're just gonna be able to say I mean it seems to me like you're hiring somebody because it's inefficient.

I mean, it's just it it's a lot of money when somebody else can what is their role compared to the workers?

Are they allowed to say go take something out of the back of the truck and stock it?

Or the workers you're saying that would be more efficient because they're going to do their work and we have to worry about working cars.

Is that what you're saying?

And there's people you hire, and we know how parts to order to keep things flowing.

So that I mean so there's no interaction between the people who are doing the work uh meeting brothers and sisters are doing it now, but you strictly management and nothing with that nature.

Not an employees have the answer to that.

We get the those employees would not be managed to the the veters.

And just like you point out that just like if anything, the the parts tax rate, the parts of acquisition, uh operations have become so technical now, just like vehicles that are also technical, and the level of expertise that you require to be able to do that you know, officially is it's over the time now.

I mean, if there are right now, for just for parts of parts uh associates, there are a lot of certifications through ASE that are are available in a lot of uh stores or parcelers now require parts of technicians who have certifications.

It's just because it's become that technical to try to identify and source parts or so it's it's it really is really amazing what it takes to figure out what where how and it's a good part for a vehicle truck of uh C and G vehicle uh it's the electronics, it's just it's it could be over that's why the one of the biggest things is for instance or operations parts associates to be able to special.

It really is really amazing what it takes to figure out what, where, how, and to get a part for a vehicle track of uh CMT vehicle, uh it's the electronics, it just it's it could be over well, and that's why the uh the one of the biggest things is for instance or operations professional parts associates which you need to have clarifies the way that men and women are going to be displayed, these people are just performance one last week.

Specialized board that's telling anybody who are just shifting for that.

Thank you, John.

Thank you, Chairman.

All right, thank you, Councilman uh Kelly.

We really really appreciate your insight.

Um I'm gonna next go to the council member.

I just want to make sure I heard you correctly.

I know you said that there was some staff members of Red Club who were with local asset local 100.

Uh what was the other opinion you said?

So to the church for the councilman, uh my mechanics, technicians are uh seeing local C local ones.

Okay, great.

And have you gone to talk with uh union tax for those shops or they support these lesson?

We have not had formal conversations.

I'm sorry, uh, to the church, but we have not the formal conversations with them yet because this is not it's not to that.

Okay, and and I I councilman Kelly's points might come out to this, but I'm sorry, I sort of lost it, so I want to make sure I crystallize it.

Are you saying that the folks from CE and APS me will stay doing their same current jobs, or are we planning to rehouse them within locate the payments to the chair?

Through the insurance, councilwoman, the the CV local uh uh technicians will continue to do the jobs that they're classified in and have a big classified and nothing will change there.

The the uh local 100 people that although their roles will change up a little bit, but that's going to be working within our job classification.

Okay.

Um do you have any expectations of changes to hours or pay uh within that classification because of the change?

Okay.

Um so Chairman, uh my opinion is that the um local rep hasn't had the chance to review this, and so I'm gonna get out on this legislation um and we're hoping to be table it until we can make sure that the meeting is a chance to review it for their staff members.

Okay, all right.

Thank you, uh Councilwoman Moore.

Uh is there any other questions on the board as number 821?

Councilwoman.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Um, six questions.

Here is it.

Uh there's equipment downtime parts of the east or repairs and fleet up time.

So all the fleet all the season going through all the season, you know, the equipment and the um equipment and everything working on time in a year.

To the church and council, yes.

So what does for instance give right now the way we operate as well?

We may have a contract with a particular vendor.

Uh let's just say for uh chocolate parts, chocolate parts, tractor parts.

Uh it in so we're unable to buy those parts from that vendor.

But that vendor uh it can't source them or can't get them quickly, we just have to wait to be able to give them there's no other because it was by contract.

We are with with that vendor, we have to give that part of that vendor.

It with this parts uh management system model, they would have the ability to search almost 10, 20, 30 members throughout the country, throughout the the work to source that part and give it to us, you know, rather than a month that we can say two days or three days, which is going to be allow me to get that part on that deal and that be able back there.

So that has become a bigger issue now with sourcing parts because a lot of parts go through cities, you know.

And so we're getting these parts uh it uh quickly in long time uh uh that's a lot of contracts that we have, it doesn't allow the vendors to order things overnight there or have brought in quickly, so we whatever time it takes for maybe three weeks, it could be months specifically start talking about specialized class.

That's where this really just it gives us a bigger whole uh of vendors uh through this one company to source the flashback.

So if vendor A doesn't have a B or C but to be and refined the part where it is depending on the urgency of the need for that part, we would be able to be able to do that vehicle back to service.

That is critical.

What is going on now in even though we are increasingly upgrading uh the vehicles, if there are still parts that are very difficult yet in uh it's critical that we can find be able to source them from multiple vendors throughout this thing.

All right, we'll go back to uh counsel and um uh to the chair to folks uh appreciate a little bit of uh partition and things that when you say that uh the defined response and don't need to change a little bit.

And we have a contract here.

Have you talked to all the one hundred or one at all options?

I mean I usually am or you shouldn't go in and change the defined unions or something.

There are news with the defined units with not changing.

Okay, but the the duties that are under the job and descriptions of uh story for that would not change.

We'd still be working with in those that do.

Thank you, I appreciate it.

All right, thank you, Councilman Jones.

All right, council member.

Yeah, something's like reporting uh piece of legislation that we have um far.

I definitely want to make sure obviously the employees as well as the billing reps are actually involved in this process before we make an actual decision.

So I have the um that making motion asked chair just to make sure we don't do a proper bank process before we do it to the next thing.

Okay.

All right, uh is there any other courses on board this number 821?

2025.

All right, director, um, I am going to I'm gonna hold this piece.

Um we do want to hear um the union way in on this, uh, if you can have us on the contact one of our support and asking support.

We do want to talk to this thing through, we don't want to rush this thing through.

Uh we do realize that you know the um the division of over vehicles need some help as far as uh which are technical expertise and parts.

Um please if we don't hold this for time until we get uh to the more comfortable uh as far as uh with the units go.

Okay.

That's it.

All right, is it any other questions on the board?

820 821, 2025.

All right, so no further questions.

If director I went on looking for something formal to say that we can have or is it one informal back to you, we can talk to you, okay?

Um let's uh let's let's get something formal they can just you know let us for something where you can have a contract.

I'm sure they'll go and display the topic.

All right.

Is there any other questions for the collector that we have here?

All right, I'm gonna adjourn uh the uh municipal service of property um committee to the next launch.

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