Calling the utilities committee to order.

Madam Clerk, can you please call the roll?

Present.

Right?

Here.

Here.

Present.

Thank you, Madam Clerk.

Can you please also uh excuse Councilwoman Spencer?

She had a prior engagement today.

And to the committee, I I want to thank you for being uh on time so we can start at 10 o'clock.

I really appreciate that.

You know, I am in tiding.

So thank you very much for being on time.

Director, if you'd like to come on up, we're gonna get things going.

Ordinance number four ninety-one, twenty twenty-five by council members Casey and Griffin by departmental request.

An emergency ordinance authorizing the director of public utilities to enter into one or more requirement contracts for landscape materials, equipment supplies, and services needed for testing, maintaining, installing, repairing, and replacing landscaping at city-owned or leased Department of Public Utility facilities and city rights away for the division of water, water pollution control club and public power, and the Office of Radio Communications, Department of Public Utilities for a period of two years, Director.

Thank you, Chairman, members of the committee.

Department of Public Utilities has a number of facilities, including office buildings, water filtration plants, home stations, sewer lift stations, electric service centers, substations, yards, towers.

That require landscaping services.

Uh over the two years, approximately one million dollars.

We do break up the contracts into typically around four by not only geographic locations but also by size in order to try to get a more diverse pool of uh vendors that put in for it.

We do publicly procure these contracts, and the current contracts do expire uh in the first part of 2026, so we would like to get out on the street as soon as possible.

All right, Director, and are are these for ongoing maintenance purposes or are these like one-time landscapes?

Uh Chairman, these are for ongoing regular routine cuts, maintenance, cleaning up, um, debris removal, so on.

All right.

Um this would be at all of the water plants.

All of them.

This is chairman to the council members, so it is all water.

It is all water pollution control, office of radio communications.

Right.

But then we do end at uh the Medzenti Plaza at twelve oh one.

Yeah.

1825 down the street at on Lakeside.

Um we do go out separately for the power because it of its location to typically a substation.

Right.

Um, but yeah, it would be all of DPU minus the high voltage.

So the the actual um the um just want to clarify that so the substations, who's who's gonna who maintains those inside the fence?

Inside the fence CPP laborers, okay, because you know we have some issues there.

I'm well aware, okay, Chairman of the Councilman.

Now on the plants, Mr.

Chairman to the director.

So we have no we no longer have any ground crews working for the city.

Each chairman of the councilman, each water plant has a crew of laborers that do regular routine snow removal, uh cleaning up, um, but because of the size of these properties, right?

You've seen them, you know them.

The landscaping of that would take a standalone crew, okay, and then what would they do after the grass was cut?

So we try to mix both full-time and these contracts to do those uh regular cuts and maintenance.

Because obviously, you're you're very aware uh very well aware of our concerns about outsourcing work from the standpoint of the council.

I just want to make sure that with this legislation, you're not eliminating any of the present employees or internal maintenance that we're doing.

Chairman of the councilman, absolutely not.

Okay, that's what I need to know because I can recall at one time when we did everything in house, and um, so I just want to make sure that because that would be my ultimate goal to get most of the stuff back under the department uh because I'm looking at employment opportunities for our residents, so I just want to make sure we're not telling us at the table, no jobs eliminated, etc.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

All right, uh, and Mr.

Director, in regards to the CPP substations, specifically 44th, um, around the towers and along the fence line, are is that part of this or are those CPP employees at 44th as a distribution site that would not be included in this, those would be laborers of uh Cleveland Public Power.

Okay, and I will get back to you.

I think we also have a ground maintenance crew vendors similar, but I'll have to check.

But for the most part, it's CPP because of the sensitivity of the location.

Okay.

Anyone else on 491 2025?

Seeing no questions, please sign up.

Ordinance number 533 2025 by Council members Casey and Griffin by departmental requests and emergency ordinance authorizing the purchase by one or more requirement contracts of petroleum-based fuels for various types of backup generators, including regular and emergency deliveries, purchases, rentals, maintenance, and miscellaneous supporting services for the various divisions, the department of public utilities for a period of two years.

Director?

Thank you, Chairman.

Um at number of facilities at DPU with a variety of backup power equipment, including turbine generators, diesel electric generators, diesel drives for water pumps, propane electric generators, and power conditioning equipment.

We use either diesel or propane fuel.

This would allow us to go out to bid for a vendor who can deliver them on a regular basis or on in an emergency basis in the proper facilities to the various locations for a period of two years, estimated to cost approximately one million dollars a year.

Again, that's what we budget in the event of, but um don't near don't spend nearly that amount.

And in the event of a power outage at a water plant, these generators, either diesel or propane, will continue to provide the quality of water that we want to deliver to our customers.

So it is important.

And uh director, this has nothing to do with um, for example, somebody hits a pole, right?

And CPP goes out, and that's correct, Chairman.

That's correct.

These are for the specific to the water filtration plants.

Uh uh Councilman Pollens.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman, my noble colleagues.

Um the at each of the plants, how often are those units checked?

How often are they running?

Chairman of the council member, we have a maintenance schedule that requires them running for a certain duration.

Again, that depends on the equipment.

Um, newer than others that have a very rigid maintenance schedule, others vary throughout the system, but the commissioner certainly can get you the details.

Mr.

Chairman of the Councilman, these uh generators at the plants there tested once a month.

And so hypothetically speaking, should I was here when we had that uh massive outage uh which prompted us to put in the system shears ago.

In fact, what year was that?

I think 2003.

2003 that took place.

Um how long can the generator operate at a given plan?

So, Mr.

Chairman, um, what's really key is the size of the diesel tanks.

Right.

The diesel tanks are sized per 24 hours.

Okay, even in that big outage, it was like 16 hours.

Right.

But this contract in an emergency like that obligates them to get us an emergency.

If we're running for an extended period, this contract will get us refilled before we run out every 20 every day if they have to, if there was that type of an outage.

So that would be for Mr.

Chairman for propane and diesel.

Uh primarily diesel for the big pumps, like the propane or for the smaller loads of the system, computer equipment and such, and the diesel is really what powers the big pumps.

Okay, so you're confident should we ever have that unfortunate situation again that we're we're gonna be fine?

Yeah, I was here too then, Councilman, and so it was a hard lesson to learn.

Yeah, we did.

Thank you very much, Mr.

Chairman.

You're welcome.

Anyone else on 533 2025?

Seeing none 533 2025 stands approved, please sign up.

Ordinance number 822 2025 by council members Casey and Griffin by Department of Request and Emergency Ordinance authorizing the director of public utilities to enter into one or more contracts with OW investors, L C DBA Mars Company for the professional services necessary to provide software and hardware maintenance for the testing, maintaining and upgrading of water meters for residential and commercial use, and including acquiring licenses, integrating and installing system upgrades, hardware upgrades, and hardware software, maintenance and related equipment, labor, and materials for the division of water, department of public utilities for a period of three years.

Thank you, Chairman.

Yes, this is proprietary technology with Mars Company for professional services necessary to provide hardware and software maintenance that allows the meter ops group to accurately test and maintain residential and commercial water meters, which keeping customers informed of accurate meter readings is one of our uh paramount objectives.

There's two important components to this.

One is the hardware of the maintenance calibration certification.

Um, the other is the software maintenance and licensing licensing for the meter management software known as M3 Enterprise Software.

Uh they are the only manufacturer that produces computer-driven high-speed water meter test equipment and turnkey installations in the U.S.

As you can see, the anticipated cost is elevated from the contract that will expire at the end of the year.

That is because there is a number of these components that need to be replaced in the next two years.

So that's $300,000.

We estimate in the first year of this contract, and then the M3 and MCC hardware software maintenance would then go on for the three years.

Uh current contract as stated does expire at the end of this year, so it's important for us to get back into uh with Mars and negotiate the contract moving forward.

Director, this is to assure that everybody's bills are right.

The meters are if the meters are right, the bills are right.

That's correct.

So we do a lot of what's called the bench tests on meters when a customer would have a concern about the um calibration of their water meter.

We actually remove it, take it to meter ops, put it on the Mars bench test equipment, run it.

It prints us out a certification that's um approved by the American Waterworks Association.

It's the preferred methodology of testing a meter, prints us up a report.

We're able to provide that back to the customer with the properly functioning meter, and then hopefully that customer has the assurances that our meters are accurate, and that's important.

We do provide we do provide a copy of that to the customer.

Any questions on 822-2025?

CNN 822 2025 stands approved.

Please sign up.

Ordinance number 823-2025 by council members Casey and Griffin by departmental requests and emergency ordinance authorizing the purchase by one or more requirement contracts for disposal of debris at landfills, transfer stations, and or recycle, reclaim facility facility sites for the division of water polluting public power, water pollution control, department of public utilities for a term of two years with a one-year option to renew exercisable by the director of public utilities.

Thank you, Chairman.

So the Department of Public Utilities does dig a lot of holes, which results in a lot of debris.

That debris needs to go to us uh landfill that's certified by the Ohio EPA, either by our employees at the Department of Public Utilities, or we will fill a dumpster, which would be provided by this contract to the varying sites.

They fill the dumpster, they have to come within 48 hours and tilt and take the dumpster upon us notification, notifying them that it has to go.

It is broken down in your executive summary what we budget in each division for a total of 1.4 million dollars over two years.

Uh as soon as possible.

At that they take it to the current vendor is well, it's boy's um boyous excavating and the landfill.

I don't know which one they use or is it in value view?

The landfills on site Brooklyn Heights actually.

Brooklyn Heights.

Yeah, every hopefully we'll get a lot of people interested in this contract, and every contract would have to have uh e Ohio EPA certified landfill that they take it to.

So we don't know where the next contract is, but the current one for Boyas is in Brooklyn Heights.

And is the majority of this stuff just for stuff that's been excavated, mostly dirt or concrete that you broke up?

Sand, asphalt, gravel, mud, clay, tree limbs, wood chips, steel.

Okay, rebar.

Any questions on A23 2025?

Seeing none, 823 2025 stand approved, please sign up.

Ordinance number 824 2025 by council members Casey and Griffin by departmental request and emergency ordinance authorizing the purchase by one or more requirement contracts for various types of fencing, gate operators, gates, vertical pivot, lift gates, barriers, walls, and guardrails, including associated appurtenances and labor and material necessary to repair or maintain existing equipment and appurtenances, including installation if necessary at various facilities for the various divisions of Department of Public Utility for a period of two years.

Director, we got to get the gates open so people can get in and out, right?

That's correct, Chairman.

Most of our facilities are surrounded by fences with gates.

Uh they do break, and when they do, we do have to fix them in a very timely manner.

Um there is one typo on the executive summary that I just noticed.

The current contract expires in January of 2026.

It says January 2024, but that's um that's not accurate.

And we do go out to bid for these services.

All right, any questions on 824 2025?

See and none, 824, 2025 stands approved.

Please sign up.

By council members Casey and Griffin by departmental request, an emergency ordinance authorizing the purchases by one or more requirement contracts of labor and materials necessary to maintain, test, inspect, repair, enhance, or replace and install HVAC systems and component parts, including heating boilers, ventilation and air conditioning systems, environmental controls, software and components, including rentals if necessary for the division of water, water pollution control and Cleveland Public Power and Office of Radio Communications, Department of Public Utilities for a period of two years.

Director.

Thank you, Chairman.

Yes, maintenance of the HVAC needs an assorted communications, computer server, and other specialized equipment at the various um facilities is important.

We have had to fix HVAC.

It is expensive, so this contract would allow us to have the necessary resources in a timely manner to respond and fix, maintain the HVA, various HVAC HVAC needs uh for the Department of Public Utilities.

Current contract expires very soon.

All right.

Uh any questions on A25-2025 with the HVAC?

Seeing not 825-2025 stands approved, please sign up.

And finally, Director, uh ordinance number 826 2025 by Council Members Casey and Griffin by Departmental Request and Emergency Ordinance, authorizing the purchase by one or more requirement contracts of labor and material necessary to test, maintain, and repair backup electrical gear, diesel drives for pumps, petroleum-based fuel equipment, and computer backup systems to the various divisions of Department of Public Utilities for a period for a term of two years.

Director?

Thank you, Chairman.

Similar to the conversation of 533 2025 for the fuel.

This is what the fuel goes into, and the machines that use that fuel for the emergency backup generators and other electrical backup for the Department of Public Utilities.

This also includes the testing and replacement of underground storage tanks, which is a very specialized type of work that to test, inspect and certify the tanks and or replace them would fall under this contract period of two years.

The current uh contract is um is expiring very soon, also.

So appreciate uh the committee's support.

All right, I have no questions.

Anyone have anything at 826 2025?

Quick question.

Councilman Harsh.

Through the chair, is this um to determine whether or not there is a problem with the tanks or and and we'll find out how much it costs to replace them if we need to, or is the uh check on the tanks already completed and this is premeditated work?

Similar to the generators themselves, the monthly testing that the commissioner had talked about earlier that would happen with the tanks just to make sure that they're not leaking, and this would be the vendor that would provide those certifications that we're not leaking.

So this is ongoing maintenance and checking.

It would it this wouldn't be enough money to replace, but they would tell us this has to be replaced.

Okay, Mr.

I do have one question for that though under the yeah, we'll have miscellaneous.

All right, any other question on 826 2025?

Seeing none 826 2025 stands approved, that concludes our legislative portion of the meeting.

Director, there's a couple of miscellaneous items.

First, I want to let the uh the uh the committee know that in 2024, we set up the arbitration panel for Cleveland Public Power.

Uh the arbitration panel had its first hearing, so the CPP arbitration panel is up and running um for for uh anybody that wants to dispute their bills.

We just want to let that know.

Also, director, can you uh give us an update on the shoreway, right?

When the west the eastbound uh shoreway lanes will be open and when that when that repair will be done.

Yes, thank you, Chairman, members of the committee.

So we did have a 36-inch distribution, a cast iron distribution main uh break at a seam.

Uh we uh it was leaking for a while while it its proximity to the Garrett Morgan water treatment plant, it's right at the top of the hill, and the surge tank there uh was pretty unique.

So isolating that leak in order to make sure that all of our customers maintain service took a little while.

Um the road was closed fully, then it was partially reopened and plated, then we closed it last weekend to fully excavate the break.

Uh we did do that starting on Friday at 10 a.m.

into Saturday and Sunday.

We had some specialized equipment for a permanent clamp on that seam if that were determined to be the the what happened, right?

Until you dig it up, you don't know.

So it was right at that seam.

The clamp did not fit.

However, we were able to caulk that joint, get it under pressure, and it is working, but it's not a permanent fix.

So that's why it still maintains the plates and the restriction for the one down to two lanes.

Um so our plan moving forward, the the we are having a specialized clamp fabricated right now as we speak.

They're telling us it will be it should take approximately 10 days to two weeks.

We hope to we know we have a Browns game this Sunday here.

Uh the guards are back in town next weekend.

So we're working around special events.

At some point when we get the fabricated parts back, we're gonna inform everybody again.

We're gonna have to shut it down, dig it up, make the permanent fix, pour some concrete, and then flow fill, and then final pavement restoration.

So uh I don't have the until we get that fabricated part.

I can't give you a timeline um uh for sure, but as soon as we have it and the engineers and the the crews are are uh confident that it'll work, then we will put out a timeline and make sure everybody's aware of it.

But we we appreciate everybody's patience.

Um we do monitor it daily uh those plates, make sure they're not shifting the traffic in the morning um to make sure there's nothing we can do a little better, but um you know, following the signs and the barrels and merging is important in rush hour.

All right, so for the Browns game on Sunday, it's still gonna be down to two lanes, right?

So that we can just let people know.

That's correct, Chair.

Okay, so it will not it'll it'll still be just two lanes through at least next week.

Next week, okay.

All right.

Uh anybody else listening?

Councilmember Flanc?

Um thank you, Mr.

Chairman, for raising that issue.

Uh my little colleague.

The the pipe that broke uh or at least was what size?

Chairman of the council member 36-inch cast iron.

Oh so you've indicated that we do not have clamps.

We did not have clamps that size, correct?

Mr.

Chairman, this what's called a belt clamp.

It goes over the joint of the two pipes.

You have to measure in advance what the diameter is because it is precisely manufactured.

These are not off-the-shelf items.

If it's 39 inch versus 38 inch, you measure that measurement and send it to the fabricator, and they fabricated custom for you, every one of these for this particular type of fit.

So for things that are off the shelf, yes, we have plenty of those, councilman.

But this one, because it's custom made.

Okay, that's the chairman.

That was I was trying to understand because the uh had heard that.

Um so there's no way we can order them we can't order an advanced additional clamp should we run into the situation again.

We this one actually was from four years ago that was measured for one joint away, and it doesn't fit here.

We had hoped that it would, so we have to trim it if essentially to now get it to fit.

So this isn't the height at first, it's the joint.

It's the joint that opened up.

That's correct, councilman.

Okay.

I just wanted to get that clarification because I'm I'm trying to explain the resonance because if we had that break on Coyde Road uh at 140th, uh that massive with the sinkhole, and I'm trying to maybe for the viewing audience.

There's really no way to determine if a pipe is going to let loose, correct?

That magic bullet doesn't exist on the council.

And I was trying to explain that to folks that there's no crystal ball, there's no way we can predict.

I've seen pipes burst, I've seen old pipes burst.

Yes.

And so that's at the end of the day.

So somehow there's some folks think there's some we can do some kind of test to determine a condition of a pipe, and there isn't, correct?

It really is not, Consulman.

No.

Okay.

So that's what needs to be said.

We don't know until something happens.

Anybody else?

Um Councilman Harsh.

Councilman Harsh.

Okay.

Yeah, thank you, Chairman.

So on the same subject though, um, through the chair.

Uh this summer we had a large number of water mains breaks, seemingly during the hottest period of the summer.

And I'm wondering uh if it's the opinion of the department if weather has something to do with I my brain wondered if increased demand for water led to higher pressure rates in the pipes, led to more burst pipes, or if it's just bad luck that these happen to all break at the same time.

I'm just kind of curious if they're what the thought is on your chairman of the council member and commissioner can certainly elaborate.

You're on you're on the right path, not to mention that our big construction happens in the construction season.

So there's a lot of different moving parts in the summer.

Increased demand, weather there is shifting below the ground in hot drought-like conditions, uh, and then other things are taken out of service while we're repairing them or replacing them, which is adding strains to other parts of the distribution center.

But Commissioner certainly is the expert.

Uh certainly thank you, Director Um.

The director is right.

In northern climate cities like ours, cold weather, where you have freezing and uh frost creation, clearly the peak season for brakes is in the wintertime.

January, February, no question.

Um, and the colder and harsher winter, the more breaks that we get.

However, we do some summers see a secondary minor break wave.

Um that depends if it's been hotter and drier, and you get almost drought-like type conditions, which there was a spell like that, and as the director mentioned, the ground can crack and that causes some shifting.

There are places in the country uh out west where their peak season is the summer for those reasons.

It's not so much because of higher pumping or pressure or anything like that, it's ground shifting.

It's the ground drying out and moving, putting extra strings on the pipe causing them to break.

And so the density of the earth surrounding the pipes, whether it's wet or dry, changes.

The movement we believe.

Interesting.

The movement caused by the cracks and fissures in the soil as it dries.

I had one other question, Mr.

Chairman for a minute.

Thank you for that, by the way.

I appreciate that.

Um I uh have been dealing with an issue in my neighborhood uh about parking in yards.

I'm not a fan of people parking in their front yards.

Could a car parking on a front yard conceivably put enough weight down on that yard to crack a water pipe or a sewer line underneath that yard?

Do cars weigh enough to crack pipes?

Uh uh, Mr.

Chairman, it's not likely.

Oh, okay.

It's not likely that that's sufficient weight to cause an issue on water mains uh uh weight of things distribute and in a triangle as it goes down.

So it's dispersed at the end where it gets so much.

Uh water means especially pressurized water mains, the significant force is not from external but the pressure inside.

So they're strong enough to hold that.

So appreciate it.

Thank you.

Councilman Bishop.

All right, thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Uh Chairman, I got a question for the director or commissioner.

Um, some time ago, uh it's been within a year.

We had uh uh some work done on on uh one of my main streets uh where they open up the street.

I'm assuming it was water, division of water.

So it was open up for I don't know, some time for a couple weeks, and they made the repair and they put the street back.

It is zero.

I mean, it's it's almost like if you drive over this area where the where they did work, it's almost like you've gone over a speed hunt.

And your car throws up at just 30 miles, 25, 30 miles an hour.

So, Mr.

Chairman, I wanted to know who inspects those repairs when we first I wanted somebody to go out and look at it, but I want to know who inspects those repairs of our if a contractor did it.

Did anybody go back and check their work through the chair?

Director.

Chairman of the council members will certainly take a look for sure.

And and and yes, the the restoration of a utility, depending on the work that was performed.

If it was the whole street, it was a water main replacement or a sewer line replacement or the gas, whoever did the work, final restoration of the pavement would rest with the inspector.

You know, under our engineering department of engineering, if it were a water main, um, if it was our a typical utility cut, and one of our contractors, a vendor, goes out and pours the asphalt, they have to do to our specifications, they have to take pictures of it before and after, and we do inspect those before we pay.

So we'll be able to find it to the T with pictures and and be able to remediate that in really short order if you just give us the street and the location.

Um block uh south of Union Avenue, or right at 116.

It's terrible, it's it's really terrible.

If it was the Department of Public Utilities Councilman, we'll be able to take care of that.

Yes, I just want to reiterate what uh Councilman Hart asked about that particular question about the pressure on the street.

Now, uh two months ago, when you were at the table, you had stated that um in one of our utilities section, uh, you have stated that um how certain pipes need to be checked after 20 25, 30 years.

You already know that those pipes need to be checked, I guess, through the um the ferration of the ground.

That was like in one of our sessions that we had.

You have mentioned that by this triggering what Harsh has said.

You have stated months ago that sometimes you know pipes need to be changed, correct?

You remember that statement that you said, but I'm just just saying that by you saying that that you know some pipes had to be changed after 20, 30, maybe 50 years.

Uh do often, do often that you guys go out and visually you know put a camera down in the ground, knowing that after 30, 40, 50 years, that pipe might end up uh you know, you know, deteriorating after a certain time, you know, to be aware that these pipes need to be uh um uh uh you know repaired or changed per se.

Um Mr.

Chairman of the Councilman, great questions.

Um the televising of pipe is something that is done in the sewer side.

Oftentimes, if you and WPC does some of this, if you put a camera through a sewer, you can tell if there's flaws or failures and some work warranted to be done.

That technology doesn't work so much in the drinking water side.

If there's a flaw or a crap, you don't see it via on the inside with a camera typically, or if it's corroding on the outside, you're not seeing that from the inside.

I I'm assuming, Councilwoman, what I probably referred to was what we do when we select mains to be replaced, we look at our 40-year break history.

Okay, and if a street has a high occurrence of brakes, it's breaking so frequently, those are the ones that we're targeting for replacement because likelihood it will continue to break at a high rate.

It's probably some sort of corrosion factor going on that's impacting that.

So that I'm assuming that's probably what I refer to, Councilwoman, that we look at our long history of brakes and see which ones are not performing well and select those when we do replace.

Okay, all right.

That's a triggered head question.

Uh Councilman Plans.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman College to the director.

Um obviously you mentioned uh we're heading into the we're in the fall, heading to fall and winter.

This summer, um, as you know from my correspondence, uh I sustained uh power outages with no wind, no storms, no nothing.

Um power outages in the community brown outside.

I just want to make sure that uh going into winter that those areas uh in the community where we are experiencing those most frequent brownouts or utility issues, whether because of tree limbs, tree branches, whatever the case may be.

I want to make sure that CPP uh is aware and trying to address those areas because I don't understand why I continue to have some of these outages in the community.

That's a great concern to me.

I'm a strong supporter of Cleveland Public Power, as you know, but I want to make sure that that the um the vision is prepared going into winter to address some of these other these issues, such as the ongoing problems I'm experiencing.

I want to thank the chairman because I always CC him as well on some of these issues, and he uh he follows up with a lot of them as well.

My last point is I want to make to all of us at the table.

I was talking to a developer, an out-of-state developer just recently who's investing in in the city, and this is what he told me, and I want to say this to my colleagues and uh I think most of our colleagues know this, but to the view of the public.

Um he told me the next five to ten years, um, in his opinion, one of the best places to live is gonna be the Midwest.

It's gonna be northern Ohio, Western Pennsylvania, Western, uh excuse me, eastern uh Indiana, Michigan, number one because of water.

We have the availability of water and and weather, our weather is not bad.

We complain about it now and then, but we know we have relatively we have good weather in my opinion.

But um, but he also said to me, he said utilities are gonna be critical, making sure that your infrastructure, your water, your sewer, and your electrical um are maintained to the high standards because that's what developers are going to be looking for.

Can they acquire power?

And this guy is into the um these data centers, they're building these data centers which use a great amount of power.

Um he said that's what you that's what they're gonna be looking for, where you could supply power, water, and the infrastructure.

So I want to say that.

So I know that under the chairman's leadership, uh the committee here has done uh taking great strides to maintain the system.

Everything you guys have asked for, we've done at the table.

So going forward, I just want to say again to the administration to all of us, it's so critical that we maintain these utilities because if we really want to be competitive, that's what they're gonna look at.

And so I I I thought he was uh giving me he like had a crystal ball.

He said, I'm telling you, the Midwest, listen to what I'm saying.

The Midwest is gonna be the place to live and to invest in the years to come in this country.

So I'll leave it at that.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Thank you.

Um go ahead, Council.

Thank you.

Um I had a question from the residents part of Loch Mayor and part of what four uh a question came up saying that the line that gets transformers from uh from 116th and uh launch mere, maybe to cover tree.

They weren't sure, but they said that they have a light breakage.

Uh the lights are always flicking, you know, flickering on and off, and sometimes they're off.

And that's part of what six from uh from uh uh from uh um hundred sixteenth and uh uh woodland going up launchmere, crossing over to uh launchmere to uh uh cover tree.

I don't know that area.

I'm not I don't I can't say what they said the line is off, but they retain it to the transplanters, said they're having lighting problems over there for the last three months, and it's constant.

So I sent uh email to um you uh commissioner and uh um the government affairs manager Miss Cleveland uh a while ago, uh maybe two weeks ago, uh, to respond to just to do an investigation in that and uh on that entire launch area.

Chairman of the council member, that was the street lights?

Yeah, I think that has been addressed, but I'll make sure the commissioner I I know we had a uh a circuit that had uh fried uh on a on a large swath of street lights, but it should have been fixed.

Um but I'll double check.

All right, thank you.

Thank you.

And on the street lights, if we could get an update on uh St.

Clair Avenue between the 72nd and 79th, what's going on with those that are on sometimes and then off.

And then my last one is Commissioner, if by the end of the day today I could get an update on West 137th, south of Lorraine, north of Lorraine.

We won't go into that at the table, but if you could just get me that update and I sure hope that it the update's not what it's been the last three months and that we're working on it, okay.

And last year during the budget hearing, um, you know, I I tried out advocating for additional dollars for upgrades of proven public power.

Um I'm going to continue to do that.

So on behalf of the committee, um, we're going to ask you to take that message back to the administration that council's going to be looking for some additional dollars for upgrades uh to Cleveland Public Power.

We'll leave that upgrade list to you.

Um and Director or Commissioner Danielson, but we're definitely going to want to see during this year's budget uh something in regards to dollars being allocated for upgrade of proven public power.

I don't think any of uh any of my colleagues on this side of the table are gonna disagree with that at all.

So aside from that, if there's nothing else uh for the betterment of the committee, the utilities committee stands adjourned until the call up of the chair.

Thank you.