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Cleveland Health and Human Service and Arts Committee Meeting - September 22, 2025

City Council MeetingsMonday, September 22, 2025
BodyCleveland, Ohio
SessionCity Council Meetings
DateMonday, September 22, 2025
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0:00

Ordners number 972025 have been approved by the Health Department Director, Director of Finance, as well as the law director, sir.

0:10

Thank you to the council.

0:12

With me to my right is Commissioner David Hearn for the Division of Air Quality.

0:17

Good morning members.

0:20

I don't know if this is working.

0:22

This is on automatically go ahead and use that.

0:24

Okay.

0:26

Good morning, Council members.

0:28

This is a request for us to accept a grant from the department, Ohio, uh Department of Public Health.

0:37

And they uh this grant is intended to allow us to monitor for radiation.

0:44

Uh potentially because we're situated smack dab between two nuclear power plants and this uh monitors, and we uh collect these samples and they are sent to the lab for analysis.

1:01

So it's an important work.

1:04

How does that work and what instruments are you using to uh monitor and control the um the radiation?

1:11

You said that it's in the middle of two nuclear plants.

1:14

Yes.

1:15

So tell us about the system and the processes.

1:17

Uh the system and processing is we have a uh uh air monitoring device that is located at Berkeley Front Airport, and this device just pulls in air and it's uh the the device uh screens out any particulates including any uh radiologic materials and then uh believe it's weekly or bi-weekly we collect the samples and they are sent uh to the to the Ohio Department of Health layup and analyzed and so far we've been very fortunate there haven't been any major issues.

1:59

So when you monitor the radiation, when you mention issues, you're not really telling me anything, and you we mentioned the process, so let's say if there's an issue, let's say you get to a certain point, where there's a danger zone or a certain point where we should be at, and how do you monitor that and what instruments are you using to monitor it?

2:24

That work is conducted by Ohio Department of Health, and they are the measurers and have the protocols in place uh should there be an issue.

2:35

We're not directly uh analyzing the samples or uh really controlling any of the data.

2:44

So when there's if there's any issues or I get to uh a critical path, who do they who do they reach out to?

2:51

I mean they just tell you Presumably the director of public health in Cleveland.

2:56

All right, and you do what, Director?

2:57

That's why I have two phones, you know.

2:59

Um you got two phones when I call you two in the morning.

3:03

That's right.

3:04

That's all right.

3:06

Yeah, so there are protocols in place.

3:08

Um we involve uh the fire department is involved, there's uh regional team that's involved, the uh Coyote County Office of Emergency Management, uh, our team, emergency management, and so it's uh it's it's all hands on deck.

3:23

It's all hands on deck, and you so what is the um and if something happens, you do what?

3:31

It depends the clinical pass.

3:33

It depends what the something is.

3:35

So it uh there's just um different different protocols depending on the concern and the level.

3:41

Uh most of the time, knock on wood, it would be uh a false alarm, and so you know we work through that with the state uh Bureau of uh radiation uh to determine you know if we need to uh alarm people or not.

3:56

Um and you know it's a rare, rare event.

3:58

We we check in with all the other uh uh factors, stakeholders out there if they know of anything going on, and so all hands on deck.

4:07

We'd call I'd call you.

4:09

You'll you're yeah, yeah, we have some time.

4:12

You know what?

4:13

Um this would happen, which I see sometime.

4:17

We get and I'm not saying you're lacks on it, you're likes on it.

4:21

Never ever get lax on anything.

4:24

You know, never because a lot of time disasters and things happen when people uh get laxed and they say this never happened before, and we just kick it back.

4:35

Next thing you know, here's a disaster is coming up on us.

4:40

So you have to always uh stay on top of it, sir.

4:44

I agree.

4:45

Matter of fact, we have a training this week.

4:47

So on Thursday, uh what Wednesday and Thursday, so yeah, related.

4:54

The kickoff starts.

4:55

That's why I was smiling when you were saying that.

4:57

10 o'clock.

5:03

How often do they train you?

5:05

Very often.

5:07

Yeah.

5:08

Yeah, big big training like this might be a couple times a year, but there's frequent there elements of those are exercised quite frequently.

5:21

Uh we also there are audits that go on and various controls, I guess.

5:29

The price to use.

5:31

I'd like to know.

5:32

Any other questions?

5:39

Council Lady.

5:42

Good morning to the chair.

5:43

How much is the grant?

5:46

The grant, I believe, is for 70.

5:49

70,000.

5:51

It's not in the I don't know.

5:52

Did I miss it?

5:53

It's not in the legislature.

5:54

No, it's not in here.

5:56

Estimated cost is not in here.

5:59

Um it was in the draft.

6:02

One of the issues we should have that council summary.

6:05

Right, one of the issues we have is that the money coming from uh Ohio Department of Health is appropriated by the federal government.

6:17

And we haven't seen a firm dollar amount on that yet.

6:23

We are assuming based on previous grants that it will be consistent.

6:27

And that's how we developed our budget for this legislative request.

6:32

Council Lady.

6:33

So do the chair to the team, and so since we don't okay, so again, I guess the question is would we do we do the line train even if this isn't reimbursed from the Ohio Department of Health?

6:49

At this moment, we are not conducting that monitoring.

6:52

However, Ohio Department of Health is collecting those samples.

6:57

Council Lady.

6:58

So the work is I'm sorry.

7:00

Are you okay?

7:03

Through the chair to the council person.

7:05

The work is being conducted, we are not performing the work.

7:10

So the safety net is there, but it's at the ODH expense.

7:15

Okay, and then it shares it's so in um when the allocation comes, then we will get the numbers.

7:25

And is there a way or a mechanism in our legislation to ensure without having the legislative action to be able to update this or if actually need to be a part of the record, or whoever else may you just want to know to keep modest writing key tax dollars?

7:43

Director through the chair.

7:44

I I believe it's in the council summary, so that's part of the record.

7:48

It's not it won't even have a council summary.

7:51

Okay.

7:51

Well, we submitted one.

7:52

Um so we can make sure that it's attached on there.

7:58

Can you give it to us if if it's passed in finance if it's passed?

8:07

Um, I just cut across it.

8:08

I'm sorry, councilwoman.

8:10

No, I just wanted to make sure I think it's really helpful because a lot of time we have these things, and the information isn't here, and it should be a part of it.

8:18

So thank you.

8:20

Yep.

8:21

Yep, we we we've emailed it, but we will email it again.

8:24

Just bring it, bring it to finance also, because you know the councilwoman is extremely bright and it's gonna come up and um finance, and I'll be there when it comes.

8:34

Can you bring it to finance and just hand it out?

8:36

Certainly.

8:37

Okay.

8:38

Any other questions?

8:40

Questions or number 972025.

8:47

Oh, stand approved.

8:48

Thank you very much.

8:49

Hey, before you leave with the um air quality, I reached out and I've been reaching out several times to invite you guys to um to my community meeting at uh a Truvine Church in the Glenville community to discuss air quality.

9:09

Air quality is very, very, very, very important.

9:13

And uh sticking about you now.

9:23

Thank you, thank you.

9:31

Yeah, I made a mistake on that one.

9:33

Air quality, um and I want you to be there, and I'm looking at Cassidy um director, tenant also.

9:42

You know what I'm talking about, right?

9:43

Because she's talking about the trees and she's talking about the environment, and she's discussing air quality uh with me.

9:51

And that's always in the back of my mind.

9:53

We don't discuss it enough because it's very important.

10:00

Let us know a time and a date, and we'll be there.

10:02

Well, I reached out to you, had my assistant to reach out to you twice, and uh Imani did.

10:08

She said, Yeah, that's what she said.

10:11

Now his film he answers the phone.

10:13

I don't believe it.

10:16

Give me your number, and when I go back there, I'll give it to her.

10:18

Thank you.

10:19

And you guys to be there to discuss air quality.

10:22

We will certainly be there.

10:23

You know, and and bring us a chart where I mean how is Glenville doing.

10:29

Okay.

10:31

And uh this is yeah.

10:39

This is this is very important to me.

10:41

And then the other uh part, director, what I see is the idling with the cars.

10:47

Yep.

10:48

And around and and not just the citizens' cars, and what I'm looking at is the um city of Cleveland vehicles.

10:59

I mean, they're idling everywhere, and um it affects the environment.

11:05

Yes.

11:06

Yeah, so uh thank you uh to the chair.

11:09

You've amended the legislation, our previous anti-ordin uh anti-idling ordinance to allow the health department to help to enforce that and for us to have signs uh on hand, and so we're putting we've put in our budget request uh for an additional amount of money to help uh us get those signs, and then our we're team has uh putting into place a plan and promotions uh around our anti-idling ordinance.

11:36

Um letter out to the um other departments or a memo, memo to the um let's say the safety department to the uh about the issues and concerns with that because we we have a um coming up this year before um the health department adjourned for Christmas.

11:59

We're going we're going to be discussing the uh the other air issue with uh with a plant in in the city of Cleveland.

12:06

We are gonna do that.

12:08

And uh but we gotta lead the we gotta lead the charge too.

12:13

You can't just go and say, well, we gotta talk with this with these plants and these other um companies in the city of Cleveland about idling or there are what affects um our air quality if we don't show the way in leadership you have to show the way and um and when you see it, I mean you you see it on East Boulevard, you see it on West Boulevard, you see it throughout the city.

12:41

Majority of when the city of Cleveland, um our workers are driving vehicles, resurfacing streets and the whole nine yards, and and you see the idling with our vehicles.

12:56

We gotta we gotta deal with that.

12:59

Keep the air quality down.

13:00

I don't know, I tell you what I don't know how to deal with is the um there's a rough part because you know when when you pick up switching gears to the civilian side when you pick your children up, and then your eye your vehicle is idling and uh especially in the winter time.

13:18

I don't know how to deal with that.

13:19

So you're the expert.

13:21

Yeah, we got ideas.

13:22

You have ideas, yeah.

13:24

We do the expert opinions, man.

13:26

It's serious.

13:26

Yeah, it's a serious piece.

13:28

Oh, yeah.

13:29

And that's an area that we do receive complaints on other parents, other citizens.

13:36

When you go out on East Boulevard when they're having weddings and other kind of activities and events, um cars are idling on the boulevard.

13:45

Even when you have the signs up there, Director, sorry for pointing.

13:49

No, that's okay.

13:49

Even when you had the signs there, they're idling, so we gotta change the behavior.

13:54

Yep, you know, and and I'm not talking about giving uh tickets with fines, you know, maybe warnings and things like that to try to change behavior because you don't want to make it a uh monetary uh issue.

14:09

You know, like they did with the what was that, the trash issue?

14:12

And I made it a monetary issue.

14:14

I don't I didn't like that at all.

14:16

You know, so uh that's how we'll handle it.

14:19

Any other since we're open right now?

14:22

Any any questions?

14:25

But I do need you at Truvine.

14:26

Thank you very much.

14:27

With that, we will adjourn from the Health and Human Service and Arts Committee.

14:32

Thank you very much.

14:33

Thank you.

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Summary of Proceedings

Cleveland Health and Human Service and Arts Committee Meeting - September 22, 2025

The Health and Human Service and Arts Committee met on September 22, 2025, to discuss Ordinance No. 972025, which authorizes acceptance of a grant from the Ohio Department of Public Health for radiation monitoring. The committee also addressed air quality concerns, including the city's anti-idling ordinance and community engagement. The ordinance was approved.

Discussion Items

  • Ordinance 972025 – Radiation Monitoring Grant: Commissioner David Hearn of the Division of Air Quality presented a request to accept a grant from the Ohio Department of Public Health for radiation monitoring. Cleveland is located between two nuclear power plants. An air monitoring device at Burke Lakefront Airport collects samples weekly or bi-weekly, which are sent to the Ohio Department of Health for analysis. The grant amount is estimated at $70,000, but a firm figure has not yet been provided by the federal government. Council members questioned the monitoring process, response protocols, and funding details. The director noted that the city would not conduct its own monitoring if the grant were not reimbursed; the Ohio Department of Health currently collects samples. A council member requested that the grant amount be included in the council summary for the record. The director agreed to provide the documentation at the finance committee meeting.
  • Air Quality and Anti-Idling Ordinance: A council member raised concerns about air quality in the Glenville community and invited the health department to a community meeting at Truvine Church. The discussion expanded to the city's anti-idling ordinance, which was amended to allow health department enforcement. The council member emphasized the need for city leadership, noting that many city vehicles idle excessively. The health department has included funding in its budget request for signage and a promotional plan. The council member suggested using warnings rather than fines to change behavior, citing negative experiences with monetary penalties for trash issues. The director acknowledged the issue and stated that the department has ideas for addressing idling, including outreach to other departments.

Key Outcomes

  • Ordinance 972025 was approved by the committee (no recorded opposition).
  • The health department will provide the grant amount documentation to the finance committee for further consideration.
  • The health department committed to attending the community meeting in Glenville to discuss air quality.
  • The health department will continue to develop and implement the anti-idling ordinance, including a memo to other city departments.

Meeting Transcript

Ordners number 972025 have been approved by the Health Department Director, Director of Finance, as well as the law director, sir. Thank you to the council. With me to my right is Commissioner David Hearn for the Division of Air Quality. Good morning members. I don't know if this is working. This is on automatically go ahead and use that. Okay. Good morning, Council members. This is a request for us to accept a grant from the department, Ohio, uh Department of Public Health. And they uh this grant is intended to allow us to monitor for radiation. Uh potentially because we're situated smack dab between two nuclear power plants and this uh monitors, and we uh collect these samples and they are sent to the lab for analysis. So it's an important work. How does that work and what instruments are you using to uh monitor and control the um the radiation? You said that it's in the middle of two nuclear plants. Yes. So tell us about the system and the processes. Uh the system and processing is we have a uh uh air monitoring device that is located at Berkeley Front Airport, and this device just pulls in air and it's uh the the device uh screens out any particulates including any uh radiologic materials and then uh believe it's weekly or bi-weekly we collect the samples and they are sent uh to the to the Ohio Department of Health layup and analyzed and so far we've been very fortunate there haven't been any major issues. So when you monitor the radiation, when you mention issues, you're not really telling me anything, and you we mentioned the process, so let's say if there's an issue, let's say you get to a certain point, where there's a danger zone or a certain point where we should be at, and how do you monitor that and what instruments are you using to monitor it? That work is conducted by Ohio Department of Health, and they are the measurers and have the protocols in place uh should there be an issue. We're not directly uh analyzing the samples or uh really controlling any of the data. So when there's if there's any issues or I get to uh a critical path, who do they who do they reach out to? I mean they just tell you Presumably the director of public health in Cleveland. All right, and you do what, Director? That's why I have two phones, you know. Um you got two phones when I call you two in the morning. That's right. That's all right. Yeah, so there are protocols in place. Um we involve uh the fire department is involved, there's uh regional team that's involved, the uh Coyote County Office of Emergency Management, uh, our team, emergency management, and so it's uh it's it's all hands on deck. It's all hands on deck, and you so what is the um and if something happens, you do what? It depends the clinical pass. It depends what the something is. So it uh there's just um different different protocols depending on the concern and the level. Uh most of the time, knock on wood, it would be uh a false alarm, and so you know we work through that with the state uh Bureau of uh radiation uh to determine you know if we need to uh alarm people or not. Um and you know it's a rare, rare event. We we check in with all the other uh uh factors, stakeholders out there if they know of anything going on, and so all hands on deck. We'd call I'd call you. You'll you're yeah, yeah, we have some time. You know what? Um this would happen, which I see sometime. We get and I'm not saying you're lacks on it, you're likes on it. Never ever get lax on anything. You know, never because a lot of time disasters and things happen when people uh get laxed and they say this never happened before, and we just kick it back. Next thing you know, here's a disaster is coming up on us. So you have to always uh stay on top of it, sir. I agree. Matter of fact, we have a training this week. So on Thursday, uh what Wednesday and Thursday, so yeah, related. The kickoff starts. That's why I was smiling when you were saying that.

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