Is this an RFP process, or is this uh health insurance how we change the company?

Through the chair to the councilwoman.

So we do our RFPs for the major health care contracts.

Uh, director, just real quick, I got a question for you.

And I'll just ask the question, but then if you need to get back to me offline, let me know.

Uh AFLEC.

Why don't we have options like that or uh people for RFPs with AFLAT?

Uh a couple of representatives from AFLEC asked why they aren't able to get RFPs in order to um try to apply to be a provider for supplemental insurance.

Or do you or is it uh is it a process or when do you let out that uh that that bid um to the chair?

So we do RFP that um I can check on the the the next round that we will be RFPing, but um uh we do RFPs for the the supplemental as well.

Let me know when the next one RPs are, and then let me know if AFLAC, because they claim that you know they they owe it a copy of the RFP and they don't have an opportunity to compete.

So I just want to make sure that either I give you their names andor uh you want to take a picture, you can their names and/or uh you know make sure that uh if you if they can uh apply next time.

So you want to just take a picture of it real quick.

I'll print your time.

Okay, thank you.

Appreciate it.

Thank you.

Thank you, Director.

All right, uh public health, public health here, public health, public health.

There's public health here.

Public health is not here.

We'll go to the next one.

Someone might want to try to tell public health if they want their peace heard, they might want to come in.

Next one is Capital Projects.

Capital Projects is Ordinance Number 1174-2025 by Council members Polencick and Griffin by departmental request an emergency ordinance to change the name of a portion of East 89th Street to Euclid Beach Boulevard.

Director.

Thank you.

Good afternoon, Mr.

Chairman.

Um as you said, this is to change just a portion of East 159th Street, um, that's north of Lakeshore Boulevard to uh Euclid Beach Boulevard.

Euclid Beach Boulevard is what the road is named uh just past that point.

And the goal of this um at the request of um Councilman Plensick is that we have um signification of the um historic nature of that area on Lakeshore Boulevard.

In in so the idea is that you would see a street sign Ucley Beach Boulevard off of Lakeshore.

Um, and this does meet the requirements, which is that there's no uh business or uh house addresses that come off this portion of the roadway, and that's why we're able to make that request here today for your consideration.

Thank you so much.

Uh Councilman Michael Palency.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Obviously, I'm here to support the legislation.

Um presently it's called East 159th Street, which was never officially dedicated nor accepted by the city of Cleveland in the day.

It was put in by the developer of the high-rise departments north of Lakeshore Boulevard.

And what we're trying to do is clean up this mess.

Found out that the road was deficient, was not being adequately maintained.

So this legislation uh came after the fact of the renaming after the fact that we had um assessed all the adjacent property to construct the new roads.

We'll be a dedicated and accepted city tree, and officially called Newton Beach Boulevard.

So I urge my colleagues and ask my colleagues respectfully to support uh this my request on this piece of legislation.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Thank you.

All right.

Uh seeing no other questions, ordinance number 1174-2025 stands approved.

Please sign on.

And before I go to the next piece, I neglected to uh acknowledge uh our newest member of finance, uh, councilman Charles Sleife.

He's going to be serving as chair of transportation as well as uh finance, and uh, you know, Mr.

Slife brings a wealth of talent uh from the corporate and private sector, so I think it'll be a great addition to the finance thing.

So thank you, sir.

Appreciate it.

All right, thank you.

Appreciate you.

Uh I'm gonna get public health up because uh I want to make sure that we have a thorough discussion on the uh the other one that we put forth, okay.

My apologies.

No problem.

This is ordinance number 1167-2025 by council members Conwell and Griffin by departmental request, an emergency ordinance authorizing the director of public health to accept a grant from the Ohio Environmental Protection Agency for financial assistance for the operation of the division of air quality, authorizing the director to enter into one or more contracts for materials, services, equipment, and supplies, authorizing contracts with various agencies or entities for professional services, determining the method of constructing, rehabilitating, renovating, replacing, or otherwise, improving air monitoring sites and other similar structures on city-owned and city-leased property, and authorizing the director to enter into one or more contracts for the improvement.

Director.

This is our two-year renewal for our grant from the Ohio EPA for 2.7 million dollars annually that funds the bulk of our work in the division of air quality, about 30 folks who do enforcement engineering, which is permitting, and monitoring, which is all of the air quality monitors throughout the the county.

Thank you.

Councilman Kevin Conwell, you heard this in your committee.

Oh, yeah, we had a spirit discussion on it.

Um, so approved.

I mean, I asked my colleagues to help me to support this legislation.

Um vetted this morning, and um I approve it.

Thank you.

I actually was uh able to watch the debate, and I know it was a robust discussion around us this morning, so um I think most of the questions that I would have had got answered at that session.

Uh so once again, thank you, Councilman Conwell.

Are there any questions regarding this ordinance?

Any questions regarding this ordinance?

This is ordinance number 1167-2025, stands approved.

Thank you, please sign on.

All right, last but not least.

Uh we're gonna bring up uh ordinance number 820.

All right.

Hopefully.

All right.

So this is ordinance number 820-2025 as amended by council member Griffin by departmental requests and emergency ordinance authorizing the director of finance to employ one or more professional consultants to study, assess, market, and sell corporate sponsorships for city facilities and assets.

And I will read the amendment.

The amendment and states that there is no legal objection to this legislation if amended as follows.

One, in section one, at the end, insert any selling of corporate sponsorships or naming or renaming of city-owned properties for facilities must obtain legislative approval prior to such sale or naming or renaming.

This is dated 915 25, signed by Nicholas Delaney, Assistant Director of Law.

Chief and Director, welcome.

Thank you, Council President.

Uh, today we're here to uh request uh approval from city council as it relates to our ordinance relating to um the corporate sponsorship for parks and recreation facilities and other city facilities.

Our goal with this legislation is to align a revenue source with the master plan for parks and recreation services and to create funding opportunities to support um improvement to parks and recreation.

Um, as a part of this process, we um wanted to issue an RFP to seek consultants who would be interested in providing this service.

Uh we had uh 19 vendors who reviewed our proposals, five downloaded the proposals, and we received one submission.

It is from a local business right here in uh Cleveland.

Um we reviewed this proposal, um, and as we reviewed the proposal, um, we wanted to look at the type of work that was going to be done.

So this would be a two-phase project.

Phase one is to assess our facilities, that is a 90-day phase at a cost of approximately 125,000.

If we like what we receive back in terms of the amount of money that we can receive and the types of sponsorships that are available, we could move on to phase two based upon their assessment, which would be to for them to go out and seek uh sponsorships for our assets and amenities.

Um what we are asking today is um for authorization to uh employ superlative group um to conduct our assessment uh for corporate sponsorship opportunities and um we are requesting city council approve this legislation.

Um, and we're here to answer any questions.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So you're looking at this uh for about 305,000, which is what it looks like there the work with the scope of work could be done.

Yes, uh we anticipate the uh total for phase one and two would be just over three hundred thousand dollars.

And how much do we anticipate or first of all?

Have they done this in any other cities before, or do they have a track record of doing this?

So the Superlive Superlative Group, which is uh, as I mentioned, located in Cleveland, Ohio, has done this for several other facilities.

I believe they did it for the convention center.

They've done this for local government municipalities, park and recreation organizations, libraries, and um park districts all over the nation.

So we know we need to bring in more revenue and use this as an opportunity to bring in more revenue.

What I'm trying to get, what I think director or chief McNair does very well is he kind of always lets us know what is going to be the return on investment.

Is there any way to kind of anticipate or tell what kind of revenue we could probably generate with this $35,000 expenditure?

At this time we don't have um the return on investment, and I think that's a great question.

Um this is something new to our municipality.

Um, so we don't know if we spend a little over $300,000, can we bring in over $300,000?

I I can't answer that question.

What I can say is that the consultant who was the architect behind the master plan has made this recommendation as a quick uh and easier way for the um city to have some revenue to support parks and recreation, and um I would hope that we could um have a higher amount.

Thank you, if I may.

Bonnie T one, chief operating officer.

I um, you know, one of the reasons why we have this in two phases, phase one and phase two is phase two actually gives us the list of all of our assets and the ranges of potential um income for each of the assets.

So after we complete um phase one, we'll have a better idea of what the potential is after that, and we can kind of pick and choose the assets that we want them to pursue.

So let me try to use this as an abridge question kind of way.

I'll use Huntington Field.

I think we I think that the naming rights that we gave to them was approximately was it three million or something like that.

So there's examples is what I'm trying to say.

You know, there's examples of of rec centers and other things where the you know the calves, the browns or the guardians, you know, invest in something, usually it's really a facility or a facility improvement or something.

But bottom line is this is not so far out of the norm because we already pretty much do it.

The thing that I'm looking at is how are we gonna bring in the money?

So I just would love to understand how we're going to determine the projections and and how is this going to help and is it going to go strictly to direct departments or is it going to be to the general fund?

Yes, so um again, phase one will help us with that assessment.

Um, one of the the um uh facilities that I I know we're receiving um corporate sponsorship is the Huntington Convention Center, um and we receive half of that from uh the county for maintenance of the malls, and we receive that's about 200 200,000 a year that we receive.

So I'm assuming the county receives the other half, and um I believe that was for 10 years, if I'm not mistaken.

So that that's one example.

Um, but phase one will go through each of the assets and give a range.

Um, you know, there the assets are valued on how much traffic they have, how much um national um exposure they would have, um, and that's how they determine the values of those.

Um you know, if we choose, if we feel that the values are not there for each of the assets, we can choose not to move forward on phase two.

I just I like the fact that we put an amendment that it has to come back for council to approve it, but what it doesn't help me understand is the overall scope because you guys will probably be coming back with you know one-offs.

It'll be hey, we got this group that wants to sponsor Fairfax Recreation Center, and it'll come back for council, but then we won't have any way to show the cumulative impact.

And that's where I'm really trying to understand.

Like, are we looking at a million, two million, half a million?

But if you're saying after the first phase, you would have a more clearer outline, then how can we make sure that this comes back to finance or municipal services so that we can understand the potential impact or return on our investment for this?

Yeah, our intention is always to come back um to council um when we have um a potential deal.

Um, and in in those negotiations with those deals, whoever is um whoever will want to sponsor a facility, say I'm sure they would have some specifics as far as what they want the money to be used for, whether it's you know for capital improv improvements or programming and improvements.

Um so I you know, I I think there's um there's to your point, you're absolutely right.

There's gonna be a lot of variables in what that money's being used for.

It would be good, and I believe in you know, we need to put an amendment, then I'm willing if somebody will be willing to make an amendment, but some kind of way I think we need to get regular updates to kind of see what has been the revenue that we've raised, how are these dollars going to be applied?

Um, because the way that the legislation is written now, there's nothing that really determines that we get regular updates to show how much revenue we're bringing in and how that revenue is going to be utilized, but it's going to be for capital repairs, whether it's going to be for program operations, so uh some kind of way if someone has the ability to offer up an amendment, I think we should make sure we have an amendment in there.

Well, Mr.

Chairman, I'll make the amendment.

Councilman Michael Palency.

Then on any, well, first of all, uh before I make the amendment, I'm assuming as soon as you enter into some type of agreement, you're gonna have to come back to the council for ratification, correct?

Okay, and then the existing specific is Council President raisin on the on the Cleveland Browns Honeyton Bank field.

Um why don't they have to tell us since it's a city building and city property what the what the uh dollar amount was that because I heard it was 50 million that was an agreement that was negotiated long before my time I'm talking about the most recent, yes.

I I don't know is fifty million dollars correct or incorrect.

I don't know.

Okay, don't know uh Ms.

Majestro, if you could could you give us the right amount?

I know that we just passed legislation this year.

It escapes me right now, but there is an annual amount, and I think over the period of time that you're talking about four or five years, it is approximately about 50 million.

It's like six or nine or something like that a year, but then it also over the lifespan is comes out to be a good idea.

Because I think the I think the the council and the public have a right to know what the what the the uh the naming rights generated for the team owners because obviously it didn't come to the city uh came to the team owners according to the lease document.

But Mr.

Chairman, so I'll make uh that motion uh that uh and please correct me if I'm if I don't structure it right, uh make a motion that any agreement that is entered into uh must come back to city tax.

So with the dollar amount.

Is that uh yeah, that's the amendment that we have that we have an amendment to address that.

What I was trying to accomplish is how do we get the overall impact?

How do we make sure that we get literally we're paying $305,000 for this consultant?

It's two-phase process.

The first phase is going to outline sort of how this is going to be structured and what we might potentially be able to receive.

What I am trying to accomplish is how can this council make sure that I don't know if it's quarterly, biannually, or annually, but I I think it would be good enough, and I'll be comfortable with annually that they give us uh you know a report to kind of understand this, but I'm willing to discuss that and Casey is willing to weigh in on this too.

So let's discuss it and debate it, and then once we have more clear conversation, then we'll make it.

I don't think it should be a year, I think it should be at least every six months as the updated.

That's something that's what I would do this.

Let's let's have the discussion, and then let's make sure once we have the discussion, and we'll put forth the amendment.

Okay, yeah, anything else, councilman?

That's it.

All right, uh, Councilman Brian Casey.

Uh we have a discussion, we don't have an amendment.

We don't have an amendment, for an amendment.

And when we once we have a discussion, because I want to be clear on what the amendment that we're making and discuss sort of what we want to get, which is a discussion before the amendment?

We just discussing, we're just debating the legislation right now.

Um the necessary department via parts and rec or capital projects or whoever um report back, provide a semi-annual update with putting the city council on any of the progress um that we're making as for this lesson.

Thank you.

Uh amendment is put forth.

Do you have that, Mr.

Roberts?

Mr.

Roberts does have that.

Do I have a second?

I'll say councilman Michael Palencick has seconded.

Uh is there any further discussion?

Just want to make sure, as we are accepting this amendment, that um we are brought to the table before any decisions are made.

That's what I'm really trying to get at.

So this makes sure that we're brought it to the table before decisions are made on where the investments will be, and then that'll give us an opportunity to ask how would the money be used, how much are we going to generate, et cetera.

But to Councilman Casey's point, we'll get a semi-annual report from the department to show us how much we've raised as well as um how the money is being applied and for what reason.

Okay.

All right.

So uh is there any other discussion?

All right, on this uh amendment.

On the amendment, okay.

Seeing no other discussion items on the amendment, uh all in favor say aye.

Aye, any opposed, the ayes have it.

Now we'll go back to the legislation.

Councilman Charles Slife.

Thank you.

Um correct me if I'm mistaken.

It seems the spirit of this legislation is really about uh naming rights for larger facilities like the you know, Smith plumbing basketball courts or something like that.

I'm wondering where this would intersect.

I was I was at my I was at church over the weekend, and in the church gym, they have just the big board where people there's like a little advertisement for chambers funeral home and Willow Me Flowers and Marks, and like how does this tie into that?

That's not really a branding thing as much as just hanging banners on the back of a baseball field as you see in communities of local businesses who want would want to help support parks and rec, but maybe not go out for an entire field.

And I'm wondering if this is different than that, if this intersects with that, and if if this allows for this or we already allow for it, I don't know if we would need to micromanage that level of uh putting a banner on the back of a baseball field.

So I just want to understand how this idea would kind of intersect with the legislation.

Yeah.

Uh through the um chair to the councilman.

Um this legislation is for corporate sponsorships, which would be on a broader scope and scale than uh gym um sponsorship or a banner sponsorship on a fence.

So what we're really looking at is naming rights on facilities.

This would be um facilities primarily with high foot traffic facilities could be a rec center, it could be a greenhouse, it could be um one of our largest uh regional type parks.

And um we honestly don't have um a full scale assessment of what it is that we're looking for, but our vision was that it would be for large facilities and for large dollar amount items, not necessarily uh uh scoreboard sponsorship or a gym sponsorship.

Does that answer your question?

It does, I'm sure I'm curious if legal authority already exists for that sort of a smaller program, or if that's something we need to explore separately, because I I think that that's something that small businesses around town would be, you know, businesses in ward 16, I think would be happy to help put up a banner at Councilman Casey's basketball league.

Uh that's something you see very prevalently in other communities, but I and maybe I'm just not paying attention well enough, but I feel like we haven't been doing that at our city sports facilities like other communities have.

Yeah.

So thank you for that comment.

I think is Alex um uh refines her department and she looks at um different opportunities and and um uh opportunities one of the things in the master plan is looking for opportunities to grow our revenue, and you're exactly right that that is an opportunity to grow our revenue.

Um, but as she looks at her personnel and um her staffing, there is going to be an uh person dedicated to grants as well as sponsorships that um you know will have the opportunities to look at those sort of things and to facilitate um those types of sponsorships.

I'll just I'll just say that the body, and I do based on no data obviously, but uh part of me wonders if there's more bang for the buck in the volume of small sponsorships at every city facility versus the more expensive naming rights for large facilities.

Maybe there's there's an equation in there, but I think that it is an opportunity to supplement this.

Thank you.

Um before I go to Councilman Casey and Councilman Conwell, just another question I want to ask.

Does this in any way affect any of our bond covenants that we have in place now?

Have we talked to finance about that and make sure that there this won't affect any bonds that we use for improvements?

I just just want to make sure that there's no interference, like is there anything that could potentially cause us a problem with our bonding?

Yeah, it's great question to the chair.

Uh we uh have not explored that option at this time.

Right now, the way that this agreement would be, we could either choose to use the money for operating dollars or capital dollars, but it will should not uh impact any lending that we do to um perform any capital improvements.

Okay, and then okay, I'm sorry.

Yeah, I um I I'm guessing that if if a corporate sponsor comes in um and they are proposing capital improvements at the same time, they're promising a certain revenue stream that we could use that to backstop um any of our bonding in the future.

I mean, I would think that would happen, but obviously we would have to consult with our law department and our bonding uh council for that.

Well, it'd be good to know if that's the case, um, because I think this as has like you just said, eloquently described that they can actually relieve a little bit of the uh pressure that we have on our bonds if we can use some of it as a backstop, so something just to think about.

Um, the other thing, I know that I'm asking this question, I gotta ask it, because uh councilman sniff made me think about it when he uh mentioned about local businesses.

It's also it's not us going to have a whole bunch of facilities advertising smoke shops and stuff like that, right?

So I know the council would probably vote against, but just let you know we ain't gonna have like that bring us in there, you know.

So I just want to make sure that it's good.

Um, but that's so there are some barriers and some things that would kind of be like no non-starter.

Right.

Okay.

All right, so that's good to know.

Um, last but not least, I think one of the most horrible ideas is when Chicago sold all of their meters.

This is not selling any city asset, this is not outsourcing, this is city city just dealing with advertisement, so that nobody's confused.

Okay.

Okay, so this is us finding another way to bring in a revenue stream.

Okay, all right, thank you.

Councilman Brian Casey and then Councilman Kevin Conwell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman, Mr.

Chairman to the chief, or the director.

Um maybe we don't know this answer yet.

Um, or if we've thought about this, but uh somebody wants to come in and rename gunning rec to Irish Spring Recreational Center now.

Does that money stay with that facility, or is it going into like a general pot where money that somebody's paying to sponsor gunning rack could actually go into um upgrading Column the record?

To the chairs of announcement.

Um at this time, um we don't have any of those guidelines set forth, but I think as we get through phase one and we consider what amenities are ripe for this type of sponsorship, we can also consider what controls the city would like to put in place to ensure that we're not getting um sponsorship dollars uh for one location that's not gonna benefit that location.

So I appreciate that comment.

All right, Mr.

Chairman's director.

So there's a possibility somebody could come in and say we want to pay you two million dollars a year to rename our rec center, but we want all that two million dollars to go back into that rec center.

Yeah, through that chair to the councilman, absolutely.

We could spend it on operating or we could spend it on capital, and so for sponsorship dollars at gunning, Irish Spring Gunning, we could say we're gonna have this all for operating, and so we're gonna look at how we can expand services at that facility, or it could be um we're gonna use this for all capital, and these are the capital projects we want to complete with those dollars.

Okay, all right, thank you.

Thank you, Councilman Kevin will um very much really an odd answer.

Do you uh so who is to the chair who is doing that now in which city is doing something like this?

You want to know what other cities are doing this?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Do we have any examples of any other cities that are doing this type of uh I can um hold on so to the to the chair uh through the chair to the council member?

We have a long list of uh municipalities that this organization has worked for.

They have done this for libraries, for schools, for universities, uh, local government.

Um I know Fisher's Indiana is one municipality.

Um I can uh do me to go to their website.

Yeah, um hold on a second.

A lot.

A lot.

They've literally done this for organizations all over the nation.

Um Robert Morris University, John Carroll University, uh, Chihuahua in Hills, um, my internet's being slow, but a lot of large municipalities.

Um they're probably one of the premier providers of sponsorship uh packages in terms of working with folks.

Morrisville, Bloomington, Indiana, uh Los Angeles Zoo, San Francisco State, they do this all over the nation.

So you put it into a fund.

And it's like a general fund, you'll name it, name it rights fund.

I'm just throwing the name out there, and then you will debit the fund to um use the name and right for a recreation center.

But what if it's already named James Hubbard Recreation Center?

So would you James Hubbard at Sharon Williams Recreation Center or what?

Or you just knock down what the residents wanted to be named.

Because it's really it's it's their property.

It's not ours.

It belonged to the people.

Definitely we appreciate this statement and this question.

As we are looking at this, there is no plan to rename any of the facilities.

The way we've been looking at it, it was kind of like the state theater or the Ohio Theater, where it would be James Hubbard Glenville Recreation Center, and then we'd have the sponsorship name tagged on, but there's no plan right now to change the name of any facility.

I mean, we legislated and then you guys sign off on it.

And I don't want to give up the rights to do that.

You know, through the chair to the um director.

Um that this would be a stipulation that city council would like to ensure stays in place that we keep the name and retain the name of our locations.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you, CP.

All right, thank you.

Do we have any other questions regarding ordinance number 820-2025 as amended?

Seeing no other questions, ordinance number 820-2025 as amended stands approved.

Please sign on.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Are we at um I need to say something real quick?

Please proceed.

You know, I've been here since 2001, CP.

I talked with the YMCA, and they tell me that the city do not want to sell them the land because, and I have to hear from the YMCA.

No one from the administration.

I've been through several administrations, where at least they'll have to sit down with the council.

The person will have to legislate the land.

But then they tell the YMCA, we're not going to sell you the land.

Let me say this.

The people over there, Councilmember uh uh Mike Palency, as well as Councilmember Anthony Ariston and myself have been working on this project for the loans.

But when you guys come in, Mayor Big Administration come in, you want to say and do what you want to do, and that's disrespectful to me, because I've never seen anything like this in my life.

Never.

Whenever I do something, you know what I do?

I come to your office, Chief, and I talk with you.

Whenever I'm gonna do something that will affect the recreation centers, I come to your office director, and I talk with you like partners.

But you guys are changing the way it's supposed to be.

Us working together for the good of the whole.

We're going down this wrong rabbit hole, Miss Council President, and I don't like it.

I'm not happy with it.

You guys have to talk with us also, and you're not using us like a partner.

I'm not happy with this.

This man over here, even my council member Mike Bonistic worked on this project for years under the Jackson administration before you guys even came, and you're not even you don't even respect us enough to talk with us about it, but then I get a phone call from the YMCA saying they don't want to do it, Councilman Calvo.

What kind of nonsense is that?

I said they didn't call me, Tim, they didn't talk with me.

Because you feel like you don't have to talk with us.

That's what I'm getting right now.

And I've been around for a long time, not as long as I'm council member Mike Bellistic, but we never seen anything like this before in our lives to the chair to the chief.

Yeah, um, if you could first be good to verify if that's the case.

Okay.

So specifically, um, you know, there's we we have received property over the years, um a lot of different ways.

Um it's been um donated to us, and with some of those donations, there's limitations on what you're allowed to do.

Um so the particular land that that um that the YMCA is is requesting as land that has been donated to us that has certain strings of tight strings tied to it that we're not allowed to sell it.

Um so uh you know, I'm not sure why we would have to come to you when we're actually just reading what's in the document in the deed.

We're just relaying that information to them that in essence they could have read the deed themselves and found out that that's the case.

So that's the property that we're not selling to them as property that we're not allowed to sell to them based on the deed restrictions.

Plain and simple.

That's where Glenville YMCA used to be at.

I know I grew up in Glenville.

I used to go to YMCA, had a fatherhood program there.

I used to do jobs there and um job fairs there, and um that was YMCA property.

You remember that council member Mike Bellis.

I'm shocked to hear there was a deed restriction on there.

I'm shocked.

The Y used to be right there located at the same locations.

Yeah, basketball, you play basketball there.

It's not all the property, it's sure certain parcels of property that they're asking from us that it have the deed restrictions on it.

And um, you know, we'll be happy to sit down with um uh the commissioner of of property to um go over the specific details and the limitations on what we can and can't do.

Because you know, here's the thing about the YMCA, the director used to work there, it's different, kind of different from the recreation center.

You could do programming there, and we need programming in the community for senior citizens as well as children.

You need all the programming that we can get, and let me let me say this, Director.

When we had the YMCA there, it wasn't just people from Glenville.

They came to that YMCA because of specific programming that was from East Cleveland, they came.

They showed up from Euclid, they came from Collinwood.

Isn't that right, Councilmember Melissa?

They came not just to go to Glenville, and we had programming, fatherhood programs that were that was at the Glenville YMCA as well as at the YMCA.

So we can do sharing programming, is very, very important that you need this guided with goals and objectives.

And here's the other piece.

It's a project not transferable, scratch that.

It's a project that will make changes in that neighborhood.

Please.

Um, we're surprised just like anybody else that they're proposing to build the site.

Maybe you guys knew about it for years, but we're just recently learning about it.

So we're looking at partnering opportunities, and that's what we have to do, whether it because we know our facilities that we have in that area are not the best, and we acknowledge that.

And you know, thank goodness that that we have the new director here that's focused on providing good services, good facilities, good programming at all of our rec centers, and how we get to that, we're open to all those opportunities.

Um, and it's not a one-size-fits-all.

So, what works over at Glenville might not work over at Gunning.

So, we have to look at all those opportunities.

So, um you know, I don't I don't think it's fair that um you know you're saying that we're not coming to you because I don't think we've we've had an opportunity to to sit down with the Y and vet what they want to do.

Um we have a meeting set up with them coming up, and um you know, there's a lot of details that we have to hash out with them because why would we be redundant in our services?

Why would we try to compete?

Um at the same time, um, you know, right now the programs that we provide in our in our facilities are free, and we don't necessarily ask where they live.

So we have people coming from Euclid to use our facilities, and I don't think that's right that you know our residents are are missing out on some things because we're we're providing services to our neighboring facility, our neighboring communities.

So we need to straighten that out.

And you know, and and um you know, we as our master plan says that you know there's some programs that we should we could charge for because they're so popular.

Um, you know, these are all the things that Alex to her credit, you know, she's read the master plan, she's memorized the master plan.

Um, you know, she wants to implement the master plan, but you know, she hasn't even been here a year yet, you know, and we we need to get to that point, and and um you know, we're working towards that, and um you know, we hope that next year when we're sitting in the seat that that you know we can have a different story for you.

Let me say this.

The issue is not I don't focus on issues uh attacking a director or a chief or anyone.

The issue is fighting from our community so that they can have services for the residents in the Glenville community.

That's my issue.

Your door is always open to me so we can sit down and talk.

But I just came from and I was just hot and boiling mad because you and I always talk, and you got a great director for uh for parks and recreation.

I think when I hear this trying to block it, any time something try to block something for Glenville or the citizens in the city of Cleveland, I get upset.

And I don't want a president to be set that you didn't tell me because I need I need to know.

Even if there's a glitch dealing with especially with the Glenville community, because I feel very, very bad when um Tim reached out to me to uh to narrate that to me.

Because in programming that you just mentioned, you can have let's say a Yams program, young African American males program at the Glenville YMCA, and at Glenville Recreation Center, and then we work together for the good of the whole.

When you build that building, we'll put new streets there in that area.

When you build a new Glenville YMCA, place matters.

You'll you'll get new houses that'll be built around the Glenville YMCA.

So it's not just the programming and projects, and you know what else happened?

Cut down on gun violence because you're teaching Christian principles, the whole nine yards from the YMCA, as well as the Glenville Recreation Center, working together for the good of the whole for not only Glenville, but for Collingwood, Glenville, and that entire area.

And that's where I'm at.

So if we could, Councilman, first of all, could you guys set up a time and have a conversation with the councilman?

Because I'll be honest with you, I'm a little surprised and so um these guys have been spending years really asking for community partners and a couple of things that I want to understand.

If I'm understanding correctly, they did an assessment on the entire city, and I thought that they were directed to go there, that they were kind of giving advice to go to that site.

And they've been doing everything from working with Ted Ginn Jr.

and been working with uh all of the stakeholders in that area, so you know, development takes a long time, and this is kind of an abrupt um change.

So I think the the bigger issue that the councilman is expressing is communication because it makes us all look bad when we've been having conversations for the last six years or so, and then all of a sudden we just find out through the grapevine that's not happening.

So if you guys could, could you guys meet with the councilman, go over that?

I do understand deed restrictions because I believe that's part of Rockefeller Park or something or Rockefeller gave it to the city, so there are some deed restrictions to that.

I've always been familiar with that, but I did not, but I do agree with the councilman that that footprint is where the old wise at.

So it's a matter of just having a good conversation because you know these guys could have gone anywhere, and I know that they spent the last six years uh determined to go there.

Um so just something if you guys can get together and kind of talk with the councilman because um I can understand his frustration on this, okay?

All right, councilman, we'll follow up, they'll make sure we follow up with you.

All right, thank you.

It's me fighting.

That's what we're all here for, the fight for the city of Cleveland and our world.

Fantastic.

All right, so uh thank you.

And uh upon that, this committee of finance diversity, equity, and inclusion is uh adjourned to the next call of the chair.

Thank you.

Thank you.