4:15Madam Clerk, please call the room.
4:32Um, we're gonna start with the zoning piece, ordinance number.
4:47So we will want to add yeah, Councilman's Davis and Hudson.
4:52Um, an ordinance establishing the Lorraine Antiques Design Review District, North and South of Lorraine Avenue between West Eighty Third Street and West Sixty First Place.
5:05Um Madam Chair Shannon Leonard, uh Chief Zoning Administrator, City Planning Commission.
5:09I'm here with uh Nate Low, the neighborhood planner for this area.
5:13Um and so this is a map change.
5:16Uh the purpose is to grant oversight to the far west design review and city planning commission uh for all exterior changes and demolitions along our commercial corridors and to resect protect and preserve our important urban fabric closest to our transit.
5:29And so uh the proposal here is to add the Lorraine Antiques Design Review District between West 83rd and West 61st place uh to the east, and really the purpose of that is as you can see here.
5:42Um it is this small area in green that we're proposing here.
5:46Um everything around it is along Lorraine.
5:48It's a swear chunk that was left out of design review and landmarks uh commission design review purview, uh, and something that uh councilwoman Spencer as well as um councilman Davis have also included now in the new season have also wanted to support here.
6:07Um so to give you some context.
6:09This is from West 83rd, North and South, uh, and then the GCRTA station going towards the zone recreation center, uh slightly east of West 65th Street.
6:20Um this is just giving you an idea of some of the notable places of which why this area has been on the forefront to try to protect and have a little bit of oversight as it relates to design review, any type of new infill development, as well as any um redevelopment of these sites.
6:37So you have the CPL Lorraine branch down on the west, uh going up to Aspen Place, uh Century Antiques, um, the SSA offices, um, and the zone recreation center, as well as the post office.
6:51Um, this is just giving you some of the context of those photos, those notable places that we just named.
6:56Uh West 83rd in Lorraine, this is looking east.
6:59Um, and then you also have West 80th in Lorraine looking east, um, and really giving you the context.
7:05Now the context is a little bit old uh here, um, but it's still roughly the same outside of the snow that's currently down.
7:13Um you also have the Century Antiques uh building, so you can kind of see the kind of historical and the the natural urban fabric that's here in context, um, and then going forward, you have a little bit more newer design, uh West 73rd in Lorraine.
7:31Um, but notice how that fits in with the old historic context of Lorraine, um, the shopping district there.
7:38Again, just some more context photos, the historic USPS post office, uh, and then West 65th and Lorraine as well, looking north.
7:48Uh just a few more context with Zone Recreation Center and then West 61st place in Lorraine.
7:54You can see a mix of the um older development as well as some newer development.
7:59And so that's the proposal is really to add this small chunk uh called the Lorraine Avenue Umtiques District.
8:06It'll fall into the design review district here that Nate can talk more about if you have questions of the new near west side.
8:17Chief, are there other um districts throughout the city that are antique or is this the only one?
8:23So this is just the name that they chose.
8:25There's various design review districts, and that can I can see why that might be confusing.
8:29It won't be a landmarks district, but it is a design review district.
8:34So it'll be under the purview of city planning commission.
8:40Through the chair, thanks for putting this together.
8:41I'll just be real brief.
8:43Um, about one block is in ward seven, and the other 99 blocks are in um councilman Hudson's board, but she's an incredible supporter of this initiative.
8:51The antique shops up and down the street are very cute.
8:54Um, and I completely understand our desire to preserve that.
8:57Uh Urban Fabric, so thank you for putting this together.
8:59Happy to see it to the finish line.
9:01And I will say council um woman Hudson sent out an email in support of this piece.
9:08Is there are there any public comments, madam clerk?
9:12So any other questions on ordinance number.
9:181520 from my colleagues.
9:19Hearing no other questions, ordinance number 1520-2025 has been approved.
9:27So now we're closing the zoning portion of the meeting, and then we're heading to the regular.
9:32I mean, we'll be hearing the regular DPS meeting.
9:37We didn't give you anything to do.
9:42They're a little harder, but um, okay.
9:45Madam Clerk call the role.
10:00Ornish number 96-2026 by Council Member Star and orn Emergency Ordnance Designing the Woman Seaver Morgan Company Building as a Cleveland Landmark.
10:24Morning, Madam Chair, Dan Muson, uh Cleveland Landmarks Commission.
10:28We have Brad Whitehead and Sarah Jex from the site readiness fund.
10:33And then Wellman from uh Naylor Wellman, they're the historic preservation consultants.
10:38We're here for the designation of 7000 Central Avenue.
10:41Um, the Wellman Morgan Siever Building or Company Building.
10:49And we do have owner consent.
10:51So with that, I'll hand it over to your microphone.
11:00Uh hard a little harder.
11:14Thank you for your time this morning.
11:16Um we are here to present the Wellman Seaver Morgan Engineering Company building at 7000 Central Avenue for listening as a designation as a landmark.
11:26Um the building is significant under engineering and industry.
11:30Um the Wellman Seaver Morgan Company pretty much put steel on the map.
11:37Wellman is considered the father of the open hearth.
11:40He had 97 patents going through the the team members that made up that company.
11:46Charles Wellman as well had 27.
11:49John Seaver, he was kind of known for cranes.
11:52He had 27 as well, and then Thomas Morgan had 26.
11:57Um, they were prolific, they were international.
12:00They built pretty much um every steel in every steel factory from about 1896 to about 1915.
12:09Then obviously their patents start to spread out and others are doing it.
12:13They built um the Niagara Falls um hydro electronic station.
12:20Um it's countless in Cleveland, we all know them for the Hewlett Unloaders.
12:26That's uh, you know, they helped revolutionize the movement of um materials across the Great Lakes.
12:33So it's a very important company, and that was their Cleveland works.
12:37They did have a works in Akron as well.
12:40They also had um a mining um, I guess like a you know, uh uh a mining industry in Alabama, but this was their home.
12:50They had office building on that property.
12:53It was torn down about 1970.
12:55Um, and what remains is the complex that um the industry was where where they were creating.
13:01They were both designers, um, they made the materials and then they erected the materials.
13:07In addition to industry um steel industry buildings, they also um designed the steel under the steel uh for most of our buildings downtown.
13:17The Caxton is one of them.
13:18So again, it's just a very important um history to Cleveland.
13:25Do we don't have a presentation?
13:26We normally have we photo.
13:27We had one, that's why it was like, oh, I don't have my presentation.
13:31So I'm like trying to give you an overview without it.
13:35This is my favorite part of DPS, learning some history about our city.
13:41I needed my prompts anything else that you would like to add?
14:03Um, only remarks I definitely would give before I go into the presentation.
14:07Um, this is a location that's right off of 71st and Central Avenue.
14:12It has been vacant for since about 40, 50 years.
14:18Um, which is a big big issue, is it became an eye sort?
14:23And then when you know when we created the sites for readiness fund, one of the biggest things that the organization wanted to do is figure out how do we reimagine old buildings that have not been utilized.
14:36And also with this building, this is opportunity to preserve um some of the history.
14:42When you talk about the actual cranes that are in the building, they are built from 1900s where they were operating on like you heard still inside of the city of Cleveland back when it was millennial, I mean millionaires row taking place on Euclid.
15:00A lot of the work was doing there, and it was also a location where people had housing right around the neighborhood where they could actually walk to work and operate.
15:06So some of the things that we're looking to possibly do is obviously preserve this building, so therefore there is no demolition of it.
15:13But how do we reimagine the space, utilize a site readiness to be able to get a developer or get some type of businesses industry inside of that facility where we can be able to reimagine what it used to be and create something that'd be modernized for us to have jobs creation in that site?
15:29So this is something that I look forward to partnering and discussing, and I do agree with designate designating the wellman as server more company building as uh Cleveland Landmark.
15:42Thank you, Councilman Star.
15:47So you have no plans as of now for any development.
15:55Um we are presently in negotiations with a uh manufacturer who would be bringing several hundred jobs uh into this facility uh that would be focused in on neighborhood residents who could fulfill those jobs.
16:12And I would um note as well from the site readiness fund perspective.
16:1790% of the buildings that we see, and we often do write arounds uh with all of you and in your wards, uh 90% of what we see needs to come down, either because it's structurally unsound uh or because it just doesn't fit modern manufacturing needs.
16:35Uh and it this was one of the very first buildings that we saw in a write around with Councilman Starr, and he pulled up in front of that building and pointed and said, this one, fix this one.
16:46Uh and it turns out the bones are good, as uh you'll hear in the presentation.
16:50Uh and it's just a beautiful structure as well.
16:53And I would note uh we've engaged the community in conversations.
16:58And uh soon after getting the building, I remember talking to uh one woman on her front porch who is within the shadow of the building, and I said, What should we do with this thing?
17:07Is it time for this to come down?
17:08And she said, No, please don't tear this down.
17:11Uh we spend all this time tearing things down.
17:14Let's keep this one.
17:16Okay, so now I've got my prompts.
17:19Um, okay, so here it is.
17:21Um there, like I said, the office building which you're seeing on the right middle.
17:25Um, that building is down, and then there's a few buildings in the back that have been demolished.
17:30From this picture in 1915, it got a little bit more of addition that brought it out, which is 700, I mean 7,000 Central Avenue.
17:38Um, so this is just a bird's eye view of it to give you the sense of massing.
17:42It's 184,000 square feet.
17:44Um, and it's pretty much an open floor plate.
17:47Um, there is two areas where there is a second floor and a third floor, um, and you're gonna see um from ground to top, we're looking at 40 feet of open space, so that really allows it to be um from manufacturing purposes.
18:01And you know, as a historic preservationist, the one thing that the national parks loves more is when a building gets used as its original purpose.
18:09So this is you know, it's not gonna be apartments, which is what we tend to do, right?
18:17So um here's just uh you know some exterior pictures of the building.
18:21It does look decrepit, you know, it's got graffiti all over it.
18:25Um, but it's kind of an easy fix.
18:27The base of the building is brick.
18:28Um, the upper areas are panel.
18:31We would be putting in an insulated panel because they had open hearths, so it was really warm in there in the winter.
18:37It will not be that warm if we don't do something about the exterior.
18:41Um, and then there's uh a large amount of light, which is common to a factory building that we'll be able to initiate, and then I don't have a good picture of it.
18:50Um, this is one of those buildings that it's so big and the way the sun shines on it, it's kind of always in the shade.
18:56But there I think are 14 dock bays along um 71st.
19:01And then at the rear of the building, and this just gives you a sense of the interior, how big it is at the rear of the building.
19:07Um, there are two spurs that go into it.
19:10Um we've walked on them, don't do that.
19:13But they uh the railroad said they will not allow us to reuse them, they're pretty crickety.
19:20There's just some more interiors.
19:21So um I'm standing up.
19:23There's a platform that you can stand, and so that's one of those cranes that um councilman starr mentioned.
19:30Um there's a handful of other cranes.
19:32I really need an engineer to go in there and tell me what all the different cranes are because that is now my area of expertise.
19:37But there's 19 of these ones right here that just they go the full length of the building.
19:45So there it is um in the 1913 sandboard map, just to give you a sense of its size.
19:53Um, and there it is again on the 1927 Hopkins.
19:57I'll go back real quick.
19:58You can see those two spurs that go into it.
20:00And they come in at a second floor level.
20:04And then there it is in 1953.
20:08So there's the interiors of kind of different sections.
20:12And to give you a sense of just how big it is.
20:17So again, Wellman Seaven Engineering began in 1896 with Charles and Samuel T.
20:23Wellman brothers and John Seaver.
20:26As I mentioned, Samuel T.
20:27Wellman is known for being the father of the open hearth.
20:31He started his career in 1860s.
20:34There's something called the Simons Hearth.
20:36And he worked for them in Boston and was sent all over the country to implement.
20:41He perfected that design.
20:44And if you didn't catch it, my name is Diana Wellman.
20:47So this is my husband's great-great-grandfather.
20:48So I have a special interest in this.
21:03And for whatever reason, he chooses to not stay with his family company.
21:06He brings his money and joins them in 1902.
21:11And then there's just some highlights of the company through time.
21:161896, they're founded, 1900, they become Wellman Sieaver.
21:21And as you can see, they're making the tilt, there's a handful of different types of furnaces, and again, not my area of expertise.
21:29But there's something called the tilting furnace.
21:31They start bringing that online.
21:33Oh, and I should bring you back.
21:35Samuel T comes to Cleveland for Otis Steel Company.
21:401903, Thomas Morgan joins.
21:42And then, you know, there's our famous famous George Hewlett that designed the Hewlett and Loters.
21:48Wellman Engineering, they do they built those along the Great Lakes.
21:55They continue through the partners are all dead by 1919.
22:00John Server Sean Seaver dies in 1911.
22:03Charles and Thomas Morgan die in 1905 from a derailment of a train heading out to Mentor.
22:10And then in 1919, Samuel T dies of a heart attack.
22:14The company continued though.
22:16In 1930, the name changed to Wellman Engineering Company.
22:20They got a Army Navy E Award for their contribution during World War II.
22:26And you'll see some images from that.
22:30Later they joined with McDowell, who is also a very important engineering company in Cleveland, become the McDowell Wellman Engineering Company.
22:40By 1979, 1980, Dravo of Pittsburgh takes them over and the building is vacated.
22:50So there's just some, you know, these are the things they made.
22:53Those are big items that they were producing rapidly.
22:57And there's an open hearth furnace if you want to know what that looks like.
23:01Don't know how it works.
23:03Here's just a list in 1901 of the furnaces that they were installing across the country and across the world.
23:11That's the Caxton building under construction, as I mentioned.
23:14They designed the steel for that.
23:18Here's John Seaver was known for his cranes.
23:20So here's just an example of cranes.
23:24Just again, these are just examples of cranes and things they were doing across the country.
23:30And I'll just kind of move through these.
23:32That's a coal chute.
23:38And these are all patents that you're looking at.
23:40There's our Hewlett Unloaders.
23:42If you've ever had a chance, if you if I've got five minutes of your time, Google it and you'll be amazed how smooth these these things operated.
23:51They were just amazing engineering.
23:55And there's a coal bucket inside an oar boat, just give you a sense of scale.
24:01So there they are inside the plant, the workers on one of their um canyons that they designed for the World War II.
24:11And then I'm just gonna give you that little bit brief.
24:13We're also so we're listing this building on the National Register, Historic Places.
24:16It's being listed under engineering and industry, and then also for Samuel T.
24:21Um that's the building behind them is Warner and Swayze, and um that's Samuel T that the arrows pointing to.
24:28Uh Swayze's kind of noticeable because he has that big beard.
24:31Um, but that is a whole bunch of very important engineers from the city of Cleveland.
24:36You can, if you look at those names, you'll recognize them.
24:40Um T, as I mentioned, it's open hearth.
24:44Um, he also founded a company called Wellman Bronze and Aluminum Company, and they were located at Wooded in 93rd.
24:51That building is is demolished.
24:52They mostly provided parts for the Peerless Auto Company.
24:56And then I'm just sharing some family photos of Samuel T.
25:01The young boy in the bow is Holly G.
25:04He ended up taking over for the company in 1919 and stayed with the Morgan Siever Engineering Company through 1930, and then he switched over and went to Wellman Bronze.
25:18And there's the Wellman Bronze and Aluminum Company building that's now demolished.
25:23And then I thought this photo is great because it's called old timers and they don't look very old to me.
25:30So and then Jen, this is the reason why we're also listening on the National Register for CMT Walman, because there's no other buildings that are left to represent him.
25:43His house on Euclidean Avenue is long gone.
25:45It's um where the Cleveland Clinic Police Station is.
26:14Definitely a building worth saving.
26:16Congratulations again, Councilman Starr.
26:19I'm curious to know how many workers they had at that time.
26:22Yeah, I'll have to try to figure that out.
26:23I mean, it sounds like it was a very efficient, you know, steel industry in general is a pr very efficient.
26:29Um they talk about how it's a very dirty job, but um the men that did that were highly skilled to be able to control the heat of the fire and you know that.
26:39So we'll try to find that out.
26:41Well, thank you for that um that lesson.
26:43Uh is there are there any other questions?
26:45Oh, Councilman Harsh.
26:47Thank you, Madam Chair.
26:48Um, and I uh uh appreciate uh your help in getting this to the table so quickly.
26:53This is uh we're working on a very timely uh uh project here.
26:58Um so I'm very excited about this.
27:00This is a a wonderful adaptive reuse and uh the historic designation is gonna help us really make that possible.
27:05Uh thank you to Councilman Starr for uh being so involved on this.
27:09I I put in a call to see if he knew about it.
27:10He's like, I've already been there, I've already talked to them, I've already been hours on this.
27:14I had no idea, so that's wonderful.
27:16Um question though, through the chair uh about the rail spur.
27:20Um well, first off, who owns that railroad track?
27:22Whose track is that you gotta get it green?
27:27Uh Norfolk Southern owns the rail.
27:30And so through the chair, if uh if if if a future occupant wanted to rebuild a spur that tied in, would Norfolk Southern be amendable to that?
27:38I mean, that's what they do or no.
27:41There's no tie-in there possible.
27:43I'm just uh through the chair.
27:46Uh we really had hoped so, but Norfolk and Southern said that it doesn't fit with current um engineering and structural requirements for how you get to grade.
27:57So nor it's Norfolk and Southern who said no.
28:05Because it currently it comes in on the second floor.
28:10Yeah, I think they said that it's the turning radius, and that a man actually has to get out of the train to s to to make that happen.
28:17It's not something that you can.
28:19Even with that triangular piece of the Northwest.
28:22I just thought I would ask.
28:23Uh, this is a fantastic project.
28:24I'm really excited about it.
28:25Thank you, everybody who's been working on this, and thank you, Madam Chair.
28:28Thank you, Councilman Harsh.
28:29Councilwoman Um Gray.
28:32I just I just want to say um, this is something that's astonishing to me too, because I grew up in the area before Star was born.
28:42So I'm just throw that out there, Star.
28:46So I walked that area.
28:49I lived in that area, and I seen when the building was uh in uh operable order when they had employees there.
28:56That was like the epitome of that area of people working in the central area.
29:02And um, and it was safe, you know, it was doable.
29:06That was the bread, and uh that was the bread of people lifestyles in that area, factories.
29:12And uh just over time to see how it withered away and became empty and been empty all these many years, is it's unimaginable that uh it can be restored, but you're sitting here at the table uh with one of the best landmark staffers here.
29:33I have to give him credit on this because they do an excellent, excellent job.
29:37Um being biased per se, because I'm on the landmark commission too, but I have met the landmark staff and they are just superbly um uh um uh uh experience of going through these buildings and looking through them and looking at the good bones.
29:55So I really appreciate uh Dan being at the table supporting this, and I know that is something if he's at the table, then I know it's a go.
30:04So my uh question is um chair to the uh team here.
30:09How soon uh that you think that um that you're gonna go in after this landmark, how soon?
30:16You know, will it be starting work or process it's gonna be open per se?
30:26Uh through the chair to Councilman uh Gray.
30:28Uh very fair question.
30:30Um we're with uh in collaboration with uh Councilman Hirsch, we're putting together the financing package with the company now, which we hope to have tied up in the coming two to three months uh with uh renovations hopefully starting in early 27.
30:53All right, that's it.
30:55Councilman Star, I know you gave some remarks.
30:58Anything now, just just for um context, when you think of this location and you think about the the actual area, um, it's two different buildings that I definitely would like to talk about.
31:11Definitely this project, Noelamena, which is located on 71st and Central.
31:16But then also when you're looking at presentation and it showed that um in 1916, there was an actual meeting that was taking place where people in the manufacturer industry rather were still was having to meet in that Warner Swayze building.
31:32And if we're familiar with Warner Swayze, they were one of the ones who manufactured during World War II, where they had ships, planes, tanks for the entire war that was coming out of Cleveland.
31:45And when you talk about it back then, they had about 7,000 Clevelanders actually working in a factory to do that type of work.
31:52So now that we fast forward to today, the Warner Swayze building closed down in the 80s, and we just passed the final um package and closed on the finances for Warner Swayze to be converted into 112 mixed residential housing units as well as storefronts at the lower part of the complex, which is going to break ground sometime this year.
32:15Um and then addition, when you fast forward from 57th in Carnegie, just up the few blocks, you have a location that was a manufacturing industry that was closed as well during that time.
32:27And now we're here today um doing some great work to be able to designate as a lesson as a landmark, but then also utilize it to be able to use manufacture and create more jobs in the community like they once set out.
32:39So this is overall bringing the entire neighborhood who have manufacturing facilities that were our source to back activation.
32:47So I support um ordinance number 96-2026, which is taking place in Warfy.
32:53Thank you, Councilman Starr.
32:55Any other questions?
32:58There are no other questions.
33:08Thank you all for being here.
33:09Thank you to all my colleagues.