I just did one thing for you.

Good afternoon.

Today is Monday, March twenty third, two thousand twenty-six.

This committee of finance diversity, equity, and inclusion is called to order.

Madam Clerk, please call the role.

Here.

Uh that'll be number 104 2026 uh if we may present uh the project and the two uh requests uh at the same time.

Sure, let me read it into the record.

Uh in addition to 98 2026, it will be ordinance number 104-2026 as amended by Council Members David Davis, Santana, and Griffin by departmental request and emergency ordinance approving the addition of property located at 1200 West 58th Street to the Northeast Ohio Advanced Energy District, accepting and approving a petition and plan from a property owner in the district proposing a special energy improvement project, declaring it necessary to conduct the special energy improvement project, providing for the assessment of the cost of such special energy improvement project, authorizing the director of development to enter into an energy project cooperative agreement and a special assessment agreement to implement the project and declaring an emergency.

Please proceed.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

So discussing the Westinghouse redevelopment here.

So we'll talk about the developer first.

So TW58 Cleveland LLC is the holding and development entity form for this project.

The developers are based out of Cleveland.

This project is led by Mr.

Fishback next to me, as well as his partner, Mr.

Liam Fishback and Mr.

Jim Rosnov, who's also a local Clevelander.

Mr.

Rosnoff has experience in real estate transactions through his role with uh RTA and Mr.

Fishback's company has a whole host of development experience performing as GC on projects such as the True by Hilton in Midtown, as well as projects like Timberman Lofts and Worthington Yards.

So the property.

This comes with standard benefits like MBE and FBE participation, but also some really uh exciting kind of unique things to the project, including uh four speed tables being constructed near the project site, uh the installation of public bicycle racks, uh funding for improvements to the nearby uh Herman Park Trail, as well as uh streetscaping all along the uh frontage of this uh project site.

Regarding the request for uh special assessment financing, uh the PACE property assessed clean energy financing uh component to this project will be funded by the Port of Cleveland uh for up to 15 million dollars on financing over 28 years.

Um this will cover some clean energy improvements as part of the project.

Uh this pace has been approved by the special energy improvement district uh to move it forward to this uh legislation.

Uh and regarding the uh tax increment financing request, uh this would be a 100% non-school TIF for 30 years.

Uh the uh benefit to the development over the course of the term would be approximately 11 million dollars, uh 369-417.

Uh and the estimated net increase in tax revenue to uh the city and the uh city schools via payments in lieu of taxes is estimated to be 23.3 million dollars uh over the course of this term.

Uh so with that, happy to uh turn this to the project team or to answer any questions.

Thank you.

Um on behalf of the development team, TW58.

Cleveland.

Um I just want to thank all of you involved in the city's help and the county and all the public entities that have so far stepped up to help us put this whole thing together.

It's been uh couple uh quite a few years that we've been working on it, and we're very anxious to get the project started.

Okay, so just a couple of things.

Uh do you have the I take it you've been working closely with both the council members, uh Davis and also Santana?

Okay.

So I'll pivot to uh councilwoman Santana.

Thank you, Council President.

So this was vetted um and approved by DPS committee.

There was tons of questions that were answered.

But um, I do want to through the chair, if you could talk about the facade, you know how you guys were trying to keep it um historical.

If you could kind of share with the council members what you're planning to do that with that facade.

We're still working on the final design of the what's gonna happen on the south side of the I want to say the existing tower.

There will be a new uh five-story tower that's gonna be built on top of the parking garage behind what was shown as representing the existing facade.

Our structural engineers um so far have concluded that that existing facade is not stable and gonna be able to be saved, but we're looking to replicate or pay homage to the blessing house design with the new design of that phase one B facility.

And we just don't have that yet together.

Got it.

And then my last question is can you talk about the rents that are going to be affordable?

I'm the chair to the councilwoman.

Uh the rents at the 120% AMI are going to be somewhere between 1300 and 1500 per month by the time the project's completed when you look at what's considered workforce at 120% AMI for the MSA.

And that's for one bedroom, correct?

One bedrooms and studios, yes.

Okay, thank you.

Okay.

And uh the councilman Brian Casey.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman, Mr.

Chairman to our presenters.

First of all, you informed me earlier today that you'll be utilizing Cleveland public powers.

So I appreciate I appreciate that.

Second question is uh will you have any new electric lines running to the building?

We have uh a very old uh ordinance in this city that any new construction that goes up, uh all utility lines need to be buried.

So will you guys be burying utility lines, putting new lines up, or will they be overhead?

And this is a question, you just happen to be the first ones that I'm gonna ask this to.

Um this is gonna be something that I'm gonna ask all new construction coming up in the in the future.

We don't have the final, I'm sorry, final designs from uh Cleveland Public Power, but I certainly anticipate it all being underground.

Okay, all right.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Council Mr.

Star Thank you, Council President.

No, I just wanted to ask um with regard to this ordinance number 98.

I see that there's a community benefits agreement, and given that the rules that we have in the workforce education training and youth development committee, this should have been came to workforce committee for proper vetting.

Um I don't I have not or anyone on that committee have seen the actual community benefits agreement um to be able to vet this project.

So I was going to see if there's any way we could send it back to workforce for proper proper vetting as well as procedure.

Um councilman, as we stated before, the once the legislation is put in place, then it is up to closely because uh the council people in that area work closely with the uh developer as well as OEO that usually works with it through the contractual side on community benefits.

So the legislative side gives the approval, but the actual community benefits and everything that would be a part of that is usually done with the OEO department and the council people that are in that area because they know what are some of the needs in that area most of uh uh first and foremost.

So that's done through the contractual side, and uh wanted to make sure that um we let know that and the council people in the area have been working closely with the developer uh to determine what are some of the key things they would like to see um with that developer.

So that's really out of respect to working with the council people in that area who have put forth some of the things they would like to see, and then OEO would ratify a lot of the other things with the workforce and everything else.

Yeah, and and that's I definitely respect the actual process of the council person being invented, being uh taking a lead on making sure the community benefits agreement um is in place for their neighborhood in their area, but then within our actual rules of our committee for what we have, it states that community benefits agreement comes to the workforce committee for proper vetting, and that has not been done.

So I was trying to get clarification on why didn't the committee or what's the reason that it goes straight to finance and not least being vet as far as that CBA, which is important, I believe, just not just which is important because what I will ask to the chair when I look at this ordinance, the amount of to the chair to the table, how much support as far as taxpayers dollars for the city of Cleveland is going to this project.

Um to the councilman through the chair.

So uh the benefits of the project over time, we are estimating will be approximately 11 million dollars of foregone foregone property taxes uh in terms of uh taxes the city's accrued so far being kind of handed to the project uh zero dollars.

Okay.

Yeah, so therefore overall in the future is gonna possibly be 11 million dollars worth of support from the city.

Uh through the chair, yes, sir.

And with that type of amount of support from taxpayer dollars through the front of city, um, I believe based on the rules that we put it forth as a council, those type of initiatives should require workforce to be able to vet the project as well as um any other department and not just trying to get clarification on that.

That's mainly the the part of workforce to be able to understand what CBA is in place.

Um, because I've talked to council members offline and things like that, where they had some questions of things that they wanted to see in the project, and then they look up and see the project 80% completed or 90% completed, and none of those goals were reached.

So just through the rules that we put forth that council have voted on at the beginning of this term, it says in the in that area that community benefits agreements comes to workforce education and training committee.

And that's just meaning if we don't if we don't use the rules, then what's the point of having the committee if we don't get a chance to just so properly vetted?

That's all um the council people in that area work closely with economic development to come up with what they believe was something that was important.

Uh we can further look into that.

I would like to see uh where you're saying that every economic development deal needs to go through workforce.

That was not the way that it was originally put together.

Um so those are things that I would really look at um trying to take a look at and see and get clarification.

But um the council people out of respect to the colleagues that um support this project, uh we don't want to just hold it up because we want to send it through another committee process.

Thank you.

And I just don't want to hold up no project, but I mean, if we have rules in place to be able to properly help assist with the vetting, I think that is important, you know.

If we say we want to make sure the community benefits agreements is in place right now, I can even ask right now through the through the council president.

They don't even see no OEO representation, I don't think at the table, do we?

OEO is not at the table, sir.

And it's and we're talking about an actual fair share of making sure just things are done correctly.

We're not, I'm not trying to push back and say, well, depending on this committee states, if the ordinance passed through, I'm just talking about proper procedures of vetting, a project where states in our rules uh related to community benefits agreements through our council comes to workforce committee.

That's what it says.

I didn't make I didn't write the rules, I didn't break it.

I'm just trying to make sure all committees properly vet um legislation, like we did similar to the HR piece that was needed to be vetted to make sure we had that.

That's all.

I just don't want to seem as if we just got a committee and doesn't vet anything.

That's all.

I would really love to go over that with you in order to make sure that um maybe it's something that I'm missing, but to be honest with you, um, in order to do that, that would mean that every economic development deal would need to go through um the workforce.

And I'm not sure that that was what it was intended to do, but your point is taken.

I would look forward to having a conversation with you.

However, at this time, the council members that work in that ward um support this project and has worked closely with these developers in order to determine the things that they would like to see in their neighborhoods.

No problem.

No questions asked or anything.

Thank you.

Um Michael Palency, Councilman Michael Peninson.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman, honorable colleagues.

Looks like a very worthwhile project.

I've gone past that site forever.

Umce they knock out the shoreway, it might be a little bit difficult.

Uh the maneuver, because that's why I go to the west side by going on the shoreway here.

That's a whole nother story.

Uh, is there a TIFF involved in this project?

Uh through the chair to the councilman, yes, sir.

Uh, we are requesting uh to enter into a TIFF agreement uh as part of this project.

Okay.

Um what I what I'm gonna ask, and I would hope that you would provide for this.

I'm saying this is economic development going forward.

Um with regard to the TIFF.

We know the schools are made whole on the TIFF, correct?

Through the chair, yes, sir.

But if you could provide, and I'm gonna say this to the council chair as well, on every project that comes before us in the future now where there's a TIFF.

If you could provide to us what the loss would be to um metro parks and the library.

And I'm assuming RTA and any other uh taxing entity.

I'm trying to understand.

I was having a discussion recently with some folks from Metro Parks who indicated every time we do a TIFF, they're taking a hit.

Metro Parks is taking a hit.

Um, and so along with RTA.

And I don't know if this is correct, but that's what I was told that that these other taxing agencies organizations, every time we issue a TIFF or uh legislative TIFF, that they're losing revenue from their operation.

So I'd like to suppose the study administration through our through our committee here, that I think we need when these come to us, we need to see the big picture or give us a better understanding.

Because these are these projects, project like this is important.

I I mean this this place is sat there for how many years empty.

Is there no there's a time frame?

How many years?

Uh, through the chair to the councilman, approximately 10 years, it's been fully vacant.

10 years, boy.

I thought it was longer than that, let me tell you.

Uh, but because it's an exciting project, and I I compliment all my uh congratulations, all my colleagues involved in this process, those in the past and those that will have it now.

But I think we need to see that big picture on all projects coming forward.

Exactly what the losses for the other taxing agencies.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Thank you.

I believe that is all that uh did you have any questions?

I believe that is all of the questions, and uh that being said, ordinance number 98 uh dash 2026 and ordinance number 104-2026 as amended stands approved.

Please sign.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So, Mr.

Chairman, we hope in the future we can get that on each project where it's approved.

Um, this is the director, so through through the chair, yes, we will do that analysis and make sure that we'll thank you, director.

No problem.

Thank you.

Thank you.

There you go.

Next, we have safety.

This is ordinance number 105-2026 as amended by council members polinsick and griffin by departmental requests and emergency ordinance authorizing the director of public safety to enter into one or more various written standard and requirement contracts and for professional services with digital intelligence in celebrate, ink and magnet forensics LLC for the purchase of various types of digital forensic equipment and services, and for related professional services, including the acquisition of licenses if needed for the digital forensics unit for the division of police, department of public safety for a term of one year with two one year options to renew exercisable by the director of public safety.

emergency ordinance authorizing the director of public safety to enter into one or more various written standard and requirement contracts and for professional services with digital intelligence in celebrate inc and magnet forensics LLC for the purchase of various types of digital forensic equipment and services and for related professional services including the acquisition of licenses if needed for the digital forensics unit for the division of police department of public safety for a term of one year with two one year options to renew exercisable by the director of public safety and the amendment is as follows there is no legal objection to this legislation if amended as follows one in section five at the end insert the director of public safety shall provide written notice to the clerk of counsel whenever any purchase is made through the cooperative process which notice shall include the details of such cooperative purchases two in section six line one after ordinance insert in the estimated amount of three hundred and ten thousand dollars dated 311 signed by Jonathan S.

McGorre Assistant Director of law directory yes uh thank you chair and council members uh with me at the table to my left your right is uh commander mussel uh division of police and uh to my right to your left is uh Michael Gellman he's uh public safety fiscal manager and they're here to assist uh answer any questions that you may have the committee may have uh ordinance as you just stated uh which is uh 10506 is for uh the digital digital forensic equipment um our forensics unit uh now is in the is in the process of trying to purchase this particular um equipment the equipment was uh used initially by federal partners um our federal partners no longer providing the service so with the division of police uh working with ITS um they went and uh vetted uh various equipment so we could continue with this service with our forensic uh unit and uh they came up with the uh the amount which is uh which was mentioned total cost of the purchase of this equipment is approximately 31000 uh again so our forensics unit will continue to to have this particular service and division of police to uh use the technology to help our investigators uh do their jobs more effectively more effectively and efficiently and again I do have uh commander mussel here to answer any specifics about the uh equipment that we're gonna purchase or would like to purchase commander yes sir did you have any comments no just if you have any questions yeah any questions from the uh committee relative to this councilman Michael Palency this went through your committee yes Mr.

Chairman it did um and we supported the qu if but if the director and uh the commander can um educate us getting the the amount of the federal grant that we lost was how much through the chair to councilman polensic it wasn't a federal grant it was just a it was the the federal agencies were providing the service for us to no longer provide the service so we want to make sure that we can have the equipment um purchase for our forensics unit but it was not a grant so in essence they provided the $310,000 worth of work through the chair that's a good way of putting it so yes okay because I I just wanted because in essence it was a grant I mean if you really want to look at it okay um so they provided the um and what uh I'm trying to understand this um the where did the where did that initial money come from the 3100 or whatever that dollar amount was where did that come from through the chair councilman polensic uh again the the 31000 is the actual once the division of police and ITS got together and vetted the the equipment that was used by our federal partners that was a cost for the equipment or for our forensics units to actually utilize the same equipment as our federal partners.

Okay so we really don't know what their cost was through the chair that's correct yeah but now that we are to assume this responsibility um and it's gonna cost uh the general fund 3100 so my question Mr.

Chairman um where are you know how are you going to pay for this within the budget that's we're gonna be dealing with very shortly through the director to the chair through the chair to the councilman um it's actually being funded partially by a capital project of 255 thousand dollars and then the balance will be paid out of the general fund police budget so in the capital plan that will be coming to us it's gonna be there's gonna be a line item for that through the director to the chair to the councilman I'm assuming so yes okay well you're assuming so it's gonna have to be in there because we're gonna be dealing with the capital plan like we're dealing with it now other sections so you're saying 255000 is going to be in there for capital?

That's correct.

And then a remainder is coming out of what general yes general fund.

Um and you're able to cover that with the proposed budget that is in front of us?

Through the director to the chair to the councilman, yes.

With that will come out of what division of police or the director's office?

The division of police.

Division of police.

Okay.

Um are there uh to the director and to the commander.

Is there any other potential losses that we're gonna get out of the federal government coming down the pike?

Not that you're aware of.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Are there any other questions regarding this ordinance?

Yes.

Councilman Charles Slife.

Uh thank you.

And and I know this is this is a bit atypical, uh, but there were some uh so this uh legislation was amended at safety committee, and you read those amendments, and and it seems that there was some confusion, and I will fall on the sword for this one on staff's recommendations for what the amendments were uh should have been or could have been and uh what we ended up amending.

Um so it might be helpful if it's uh if you would entertain to have Tina Majestro come to the table to make sure that I don't mince my words.

Uh but it seems that uh council president uh staff is recommending two amendments right now at the table.

One is to guys I am the amendment to make sure I get this.

So instead of it being in the estimated amount of 310,000 dollars, have it be a not to exceed 310,000 dollars.

Okay.

The other, and I think this is the point that was of confusion, is um in section six, uh so this speaks to the there's fifty-five thousand dollars of this coming out of operational funds, and then two hundred and fifty-five coming out of bond dollars.

So 20 SF 701 is 2021 bond dollars.

20 SF 728 is 2025 bond dollars.

And I think staff's question is why are we authorizing 2025 bond dollars when it could just be spent out of 2021 bond dollars?

And a concern that this could kind of allow for uh things to be spent even beyond this.

I don't know if that's a fair come on up.

Yes, yes, so we can make sure we have the accurate length if we could.

So uh so what staff wrote to me is uh no need for additional bond funding, and and the amendment also is we're trying to strike broad language that allows them to use whatever account they want essentially.

Um so I I'm bringing this up right before I proffer any amendment for it, make sure we understand what's being recommended to us, and then I'll kind of take a cue from you.

Thank you.

Ms.

Majestra, clarification.

Um through the chair to the councilman.

So the project is currently set up out of 2701.

So we should strike 728 and the other funds by the finance director.

So I'm gonna get some, I gotta get some understanding.

You need some clarification on that, Councilman.

Councilman uh Policy would like to make sure he gets more clarification.

Is Councilman Slife indicated?

We amended it that committee.

So now Councilman is proposing an amendment to the amendment.

Correct.

That's correct.

Okay.

The re restate the could you restate the language and please make sure the attorney has this as well?

Yes.

Through the chair to the councilman in section six, after 701, strike and 20 SF 728, and shall also be charged against the proper appropriation accounts.

So that should be striked.

Okay.

I will I will I will uh make that motion, Mr.

Chairman.

All right, there's been a motion on the floor.

Do we have a second?

Second.

Councilman Slife has seconded that amendment.

Is there any further discussion?

Does the attorney have the language?

And are you all good?

Okay.

Uh seeing no other discussion, all in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Any opposed, the ayes have it.

The amendment carries.

And then I guess technically there would be the other proposed amendment of instead of it saying in the estimated amount, have it be a not to exceed 310,000 dollars.

Would you want to entertain that motion also?

So anybody like to entertain that motion.

I'll make that motion.

Okay.

So the motion has been made by Councilman Polinsic.

Is there a second?

Second.

Councilman Slife is second.

Is there any discussion?

Seeing no discussion.

Uh all in favor say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed?

The ayes have it.

Thank you.

Sorry for that.

No problem.

Uh please proceed.

If you have anything else, Director?

You good?

Okay.

All right.

All right.

Uh that means that ordinance number 105-2026 as amended stands approved.

Please sign on.

Thank you.

The second one is ordinance number 1455-2025 as amended by Council Members Bishop, Polinsick, and Griffin by departmental request and emergency ordinance authorizing the purchase by one or more contracts of labor and materials necessary to retrofit a division of police command bus, including installation for the division of motor vehicle maintenance, department of public works, and or the department of public safety.

Director, um, I'll read the amendment first, my apologies.

The amendment states there is no legal objection to this legislation if amended as follows.

One, in section two, at the end, insert the directors of public works and or public safety shall provide written notice to the clerk of council whenever any purchase is made through the cooperative process, which notice shall include the details of such cooperative purchase.

Number two, in section three, line one, after authorized insert in the estimated amount of three hundred and twenty thousand dollars.

This was dated to 2026 and signed by Vishnu Ganglani, Director of Law.

Director.

Yes, Chair and Committee members.

This ordinance authorizes the director of public works to execute all necessary agreements and documents to complete the work.

And the last time I was at the table, um the the uh safety chair one noted mileage the miles is over 22,000 uh on the vehicle itself.

Um I have uh Commander Shram to my left, who's in charge of uh communications and property control where the uh command vehicle falls under his uh jurisdiction.

So he's here to answer any questions relative to this particular ordinance.

All right, do uh councilman policy.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman of Honorable Colleagues.

We heard the legislation, we heard a report in detail as it pertains to why the command bus needs to be upgraded to meet present day standards, and it was supported by unanimously by members of the committee.

Thank you.

Are there any other questions regarding orders number 1455-2025?

Seeing no questions, ordinance number 1455-2025 as amended stands approved.

Please sign on.

Thank you, Director.

Thank you.

As amended by Council Members Bishop and Griffin by departmental request, an emergency ordinance authorizing the purchase by one or more standard and requirement contracts for the purchase, lease, or lease with option two purchase of light duty vehicles and equipment for the various divisions of city government.

And the amendment states is the director of I believe that is you you up, it's you.

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

All right.

And the amendment states there is no legal objection to this legislation if amended as follows.

One, in section three, line three, after restricted income tax fund, insert fund numbers 20 SF 710, 20 SF 717, 20 SF 724, and 20 SF 731, and after unspent, insert light vehicle.

And starting in line three, strike future bonds and insert 2026 debt.

And at line five, strike and shall be charged against the proper appropriation accounts at in the line last line after director of finance insert for any debt issuance that is not the general not general obligation bonds and the director of finance shall notify the clerk of council of the type of debt issued and its terms.

Director.

Oh, this is uh dated 323-26, signed by Nick Delaney, uh, assistant director of law.

Director, please proceed.

Hello, Mr.

Chairman.

So um before us today you'll hear two pieces of legislation only related to the capital improvement plan.

Um the rest of legislations have meeting committees to go through before they would reach uh finance committee.

So the first ordinance that you read is related to light vehicles.

Um as you mentioned, the amounts of this request um is um five million sixty-nine thousand nine hundred and fifty dollars.

And um I wanted to highlight that um the list of vehicles is uh is included in your ordinance, it's written right into the ordinance, but I did want to highlight that this includes a half a million dollars related to bikeway maintenance vehicles.

That's something that we've heard through the community and through the Cleveland Moves plan that if we're gonna be building bike facilities, we need to have to have a way to keep them clean and safe.

Um and so these same sweepers and plows could be used for um a variety of different paths and alleys um and something that that will be good to have in our system.

Um so with that, um, I have director Laird here, and we we're open to any questions you have on light vehicles.

Okay, uh first and foremost, uh Councilman Bishop.

This was heard in your area.

Yeah, um, yes, Mr.

President.

We heard it this morning, but it uh recommended for pass.

Okay, thank you.

Um Director Laird, did you have any comments or anything you wanted to make towards this uh to the council president?

I don't have anything on this, I just wanted to say thank you for reaching out uh last week in the um condolences and the uh I appreciate that very much.

Thank you.

And please um know that we um still um keeping you in our thoughts.

Thank you.

Okay, thank you.

All right, thank you.

All right, uh are there any other questions regarding municipal services and properties?

Councilman Michael Plency.

Mr.

Chairman to the both directors, is this the one where the fire apparatus is in?

Because I can't seem to pull it all via the heavy.

Mr.

Chairman, that would be heavy vehicles the next one.

Okay, that'd be the next one.

The next ordinance one, oh, correct.

Thank you.

Are there any other questions regarding orders number two two seven-2026?

Seeing no other questions, ordinance number two two seven-2026 as amended stands approved.

Please sign on.

The next one is ordinance number.

Ordinance number two two eight-2026 as amended by council members Bishop and Griffin by departmental request and emergency ordinance authorizing the purchase by one or more standard and requirement contracts for the purchase, lease, or lease with option two purchase of various heavy duty trucks and equipment for the various divisions of city government.

And the amendment states there is no legal objection to this legislation if amended as follows.

One, in section three, line three, after restricted income tax fund, insert fund number 20 SF 710, 20 SF 716, 20 SF 723, and 20 SF 732.

And after unspent, insert heavy vehicle and starting in line three, strike future bonds and insert 2026 debt.

And at line five, strike and shall be charged against the proper appropriation accounts at in the last line after director of finance.

Insert for any debt issuance that is not general obligation bonds.

The director of finance shall notify the clerk of council of the type of debt issued and its terms.

This is dated 3232, signed by Nick Delaney, Assistant Director of Law.

Director.

Total amount, as you mentioned, is 10 million eight hundred and seventy-four thousand dollars and uh eight hundred and seventy-four six hundred dollars.

Um the list of specific vehicles is listed in the ordinance, and um upon passage of this ordinance will be able to move forward with those acquisitions.

Okay, councilman Bishop.

This was heard in your uh committee.

Any comments?

Yes, Mr.

President, we uh recommended for pass.

Thank you.

Do we have any questions regarding 228-2026?

Councilman Michael Palency.

Yes, Mr.

Chairman, we had asked as it pertains to fire apparatus where those units were going.

Um Mr.

Chairman, uh, through the chairman and the councilman, my apologies.

I had a meeting in between this one and the earlier one, so I don't have that for you.

I should have grabbed public safety when they were here at the table.

Okay.

If you could please let us know where the fire apparatus is going and what the time frame is, because I'm told that there is a great lead time of fire apparatus.

So if you give us some indication as to where the uh ladders are going to, where the pumpers are going to, and then the lead time when we should be able to get those units.

Yes, sir.

Thank you.

If we can get the councilman that information, I do want to clarify clarifying answer on something.

So is it whenever you buy certain vehicles that they also have a designated location that they go to that they are going to be committed to?

And the reason I asked that because I don't know if you guys are moving these vehicles around based on need, or if they're like designated to, I'm not sure, fire station in Collinwood, that they would stay there in perpetuity.

Because I don't want to say that this is where they go.

And then all of a sudden councilman finds out that they're over on the west side somewhere.

So uh to the shape.

So I want to just get clarification if I can.

The council president, we we do not make those decisions.

We we pretty much just give the operands to safety, they make the decisions of where those pieces go.

Okay.

And also it's 24 months that it was the lead time it takes to the through the council.

Twenty four months.

Yep, to the so we are so we order them today, it's gonna take two years.

Yeah.

Have we ordered question, Mr.

Chairman?

I'm gonna be presumptuous.

Have we ordered them all?

So we we did do through the council president too.

The we did a rental, or I'm sorry, I used one.

We did purchase a used one last year to try to uh have a stop gap because we knew this was gonna take us a while to get this.

So they have they have some units to work with now.

It's just we have not started the process to order.

Okay, because we're not the only one buying fire apparatus.

Correct.

And so I just on these critical pieces of equipment.

Um, you know, I would you know as well as I do.

Council, and I will tell you because I'm here, been here.

We've never passed fire equipment.

We always pass it.

So I would hope, like in the future, that at least you would get the concurrence of the council president.

Um, because on some of the stuff we just cannot wait.

So if you if he would give you the the blessing after talking to the committee chair people whatever the committee may be on in vehicle purchases and say get the ball rolling before we we can we pass the piece as long as we can identify Mr.

Chairman that we have the funding in place.

But you know to the viewing public watching this to realize on critical pieces of apparatus are gonna take us two years to get that.

We got to figure out a better way, a better way, a more expedited way to get stuff done.

So through the council, president to the uh councilman.

We we will find ways.

Uh Commissioner Brown's pretty good about helping us up in the line, so we'll work on that.

And also they want to say I wanted to thank you for coming to my memorials, my mother's memorial service.

I appreciate that.

John, let me say this, and council president.

Uh I always believe um everyone here at City Hall is part of our family.

Right.

Part of our family, and I've never looked upon it in any way different.

So I'm like, can I express my deepest sympathy to you and loss in your mom?

All of us who've lost our moms know what that's like.

So again, my deepest sympathy to you and your family.

Thank you.

And likewise, the only reason I wasn't there because I had a prior out out of out-of-town commitment.

But definitely I agree with Councilman Panessy.

Thank you.

All of us are public servants, and these are tough jobs, and we have an opportunity to really show appreciation and um show family members respect.

We all need to do that.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you, sir.

Like tip, but this year at two area, we will make it every effort to get that faster than 24 minutes.

And let us know if it's things that we could do on our side through the legislative process, we'll be willing to look at that as well.

We'll do counseling.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Thank you, appreciate it.

All right.

Uh I believe that is all.

No, this morning I was here for three hours, so I'm just used to Mark talking.

All right.

Uh next is ordinance number 283-2026 by councilmember Griffin and emergency ordinance authorizing the clerk of council to enter into an agreement with Miller Mosley Company DVA, Buckeye Peach Group LLC for the professional services necessary to assist Cleveland City Council with automated phone calls and text messages to relay pre-recorded messages to Cleveland residents.

Uh Ms.

Ms.

Stickers.

Um, Council President, this is just our Miller Mosley um contract that offers uh mass text messaging, automated calls, and resident polling and surveys.

Thank you.

And uh I know that we worked with um Mr.

Miller through the years, so these are the texts that go out for the various committees and some of the other communications that we have when we want to make robocalls and other emergency uh correspondents.

So um does anybody have any questions regarding this ordinance?

283-2026.

I'm sorry, Councilwoman Santana.

Council President, is this unlimited?

Like council members could reach out and have any of their community meetings announced.

Yes, we can work with them.

We just one of the things that we will um try to make sure just so that we could uh uh make sure that we have a good process, we probably should establish a protocol so that um I would anticipate that some council members would probably utilize it more than others, and we just probably need a way to make sure that we understand right now it's been it's been pretty much um anybody who just sends stuff out and be quite honest with you, um, we had to pull him back a little bit because he was just sending stuff out, period, because he was so aggressive as some council members like, wait a minute, I want to make sure that I I I view what what I'm sending out, etc.

So we should make sure that we work with uh the Miller Mosley group and uh in order to have a good and communications, yes, uh, in order to have a proper protocol.

So that'd be one of the things we'll task communications.

And I would love to for you all to use it more.

Okay, yes.

And then another question would be do the chair like where do they get the contact information and does it constantly get updated?

Um I would have to ask communication through the chair to the council member.

I would have to ask um communications that because I usually let them just handle that contract.

I'm just putting it back in place so that we can have it as long as we need it for now.

Got it.

Okay, we'll work together.

We'll work together, and that's uh it's a very good service.

I I tend to like it, but yeah, so we need to make sure.

Uh seeing other questions, ordinance number what is that 283.

Ordinance number 283-2026 stands approved.

Thank you, Ms.

Stickers.

Thank you.

All right, we have a couple of uh ordinances uh by human resources.

And these were relieved in order to come in front of our committee by Councilman uh Polinsic.

And the first one is ordinance 371-2026 by Councilmember Griffin by departmental request and emergency ordinance approving the collective bargaining agreement with the Cleveland Police Patrolman's Association, CPPA, civilian personnel, and to amend Section 10 of ordinance number 194-2021 passed March 29, 2021 as amended relating to compensation for various classifications.

Director.

Uh thank you, Chairman and Committee.

Yes, the first contract is for the CPPA civilian uh unit.

Uh it's for the period of April 1st, 2025 through 331 of 2028.

Um this bargain unit uh contains approximately 113 uh individuals.

Excuse me, some of the um the key pieces that came from uh this collective bargaining agreement included um three percent increases for each of the years, an additional two percent um uh increase for individuals who are bilingual.

Um so we are trying to uh um continue to make a concerted effort to to attract and retain individuals that are that are uh bilingual.

Um there's some provisions added uh to the contract, very important um regarding the rehiring of former dispatchers.

Um so if an individual leaves the city of Cleveland within a period of time, they're able to be rehired uh and come back and not lose seniority and some other things.

Um similarly to to police, we're looking to uh um not penalize individuals who have made thought they might find a better um uh position somewhere else in a different city or whatnot, and then want to come back.

So there's some provisions added there, um very important.

Uh as with the other contracts, we increase the shift differential from 35 cents to 47 cents uh per hour.

Um those are the main uh changes uh to this uh collector barning agreement, um, but certainly I'm happy to answer any questions.

Thank you, Councilman Polencyc, you relieved this from safety.

Yes, Mr.

Chairman, my only question.

So this is just for the dispatchers.

Uh through the chair to the uh to the councilman.

This um has four uh classifications.

Okay, tell us what they are.

The bilingual communication specialists, okay, police uh radio dispatcher, police safety aid, and then safety telephone operator.

So the the police safety would be what uh police safety aid uh through through the counter or through the chair to the council police safety aid is uh is a support uh position for the dispatch unit.

Okay, so it basically is all one, that's all around dispatch.

That's correct.

Okay.

And you know, Mr.

Chairman, my honorable colleagues, we all know that we've had a problem trying to get dispatchers.

We know sometimes more than sometimes the great pressure that they're under.

So um at this moment, do you know how many open positions there are in dispatch through the chairman to the councilman?

I I don't, but I can certainly get that.

Um you know, as I mentioned earlier, one of the you know the keys to this um seven negotiations is is to ensure that we are able to recruit and then retain uh dispatchers to dispatch is a is a tough uh position universally to fill.

Yes.

And um, you know, certainly it's been no different for uh for the city of Cleveland.

Well, if you could let us know at this point how many open positions there are in dispatch, because again, it's this is something we'd like to disseminate to our citizens, our residents about these open positions and how one goes about applying for those positions.

You know, I always tell my folks check on the city's website.

Um but again there are people who are not on the website or don't have a computer.

So anything that can be provided to us in writing or a brochure as retains a dispatch positions would be very helpful.

And I want to say to the viewing public, um sometimes I'm asked, um, why doesn't council negotiate the um the contracts or discuss them at the table?

And I want to say to the vegan public again, because by charter, we do not negotiate the contracts that we are prohibited.

So the that is an administrative function.

It comes before us for ratification once it is um uh agreed to by the administration and the collective bargaining unit.

Um and then we voted we vote either up or down.

And I'm not even I can't recall last time we voted down a contract and my life deterrent uh dependent on it because again we assume that the administration took into consideration all the issues uh that are laying that are before us.

So again, Mr.

Chairman, I support uh this contract negotiations.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Do we have any other questions regarding ordinance number 371-2026?

Seeing no other questions, ordinance number 371-2026 will be heard by the full council for consideration this evening.

The last ordinance is ordinance number 376-2026 by Councilmember Griffin by departmental request and emergency ordinance approving the collective bargaining agreement with the Ohio Police Patrolman's Association, Chief Dispatchers, and to amend Section 15 of ordinance number 194-2021 passed March 29, 2021, as amended relating to compensation for various classifications.

Thank you, Chair.

Uh similarly to the uh dispatchers contract.

Um this contract is for uh the period again of uh April 1st, 2025 through March 31st of 2028.

Um this bargaining it contains approximately 11 uh employees.

And um similarly to to also the dispatchers' wages um are very similar uh in in um as in the CPPA contract.

Um additionally the um shift differential also was increased uh to 47 cents from 35 cents, similarly to the dispatchers um one thing I I failed to mention previously, but also true of this contract um vacation time or all furlough time as it's called in uh DPS was also um changed to to correspond with non-bargaining, so reduce the um the second tier from eight years to five years, uh similar to other contracts that we've negotiated as well.

Um those are the main uh the main changes for this contract, but certainly again open to answer any questions.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh councilman Palency, this was relieved out of public safety.

Yes, Mr.

Chairman was and I wholeheartedly support it.

Thank you.

Uh are there any questions regarding ordinance number 376 dash 2026?

Seeing no questions, ordinance number 376-2026 uh stands approved.

It will be heard by the full council this evening.

That concludes this uh committee of finance diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Uh we will convene tonight at 7 o'clock PM.

Uh please be on time and ready to go.

Thank you.

Thank you.