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Thank you.

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City home property located on Doctor Two and he's going to hear after you have two team operations in the North Coast.

Um hello everybody.

Um Scott's going to execute directly development corporation.

Um I'm normally here talking to you all about development.

I'm normally here talking to you all about development of the stadium site, but that's not all our organization does.

Last year we built a pop-up park that we called the North Coast Yard.

The goal is to start to create a sense of plates and place and activate the site north of the ground stadium prior to any permanent development, developmental construction.

So this is a temporary facility that will be operational until we start the permanent construction of the site.

I'm going to walk very briefly through mostly just images to sort of give you an idea of what we've done last year and what the plans are for this year.

So this is the site itself.

For those of you who don't know, it is north of the ground stadium, it's directly adjacent to the steamship matter.

So it's about 1.2 acres, well for context, 90 of the 2100 parking spaces that are on that site.

It's made up of a couple areas.

You see in the northern edge of the water's front, we have furniture and couches to sit out at the water.

There is one ship container as a bar and offers food.

We have flu trucks there at a regular basis.

You can see what we call community blacktops, which are used for basketball, roller skating, soccer, sort of kids' trip, and activities.

And then sort of surrounded and anchored by both quarter laws and ship containers.

The operations of this are entirely funded by the operating budget of my organization, so uh not asking the city for anything.

Um programmatic goals, really, we can go through all of these, but really what it is is again creating a sense of place, starting to activate the space, and really trying out both uses and partners for the permanent development site that we want to see.

So we're working right now with nonprofit organizations and small businesses that we can use this as an opportunity to bring them in and continue to work with them when we build that more permanent space.

Uh just a couple images.

We worked with uh CMSE students uh to create some uh sort of tent uh furniture out of book pallets.

Uh like I said, we have kids games.

This is a very family-friendly place.

If you go there at 5 30 p.m.

on a Friday, there's folks roller skating, kids on uh bikes and trikes, kids playing basketball, their parents sort of super question.

Uh like John mentioned, last year we opened for two and a half months, and we had 25,000 unique visitors, um, which again I think shows proves the case that folks, if you give them an opportunity, do want to spend time and have fun on the lakefront, and you can create space to do that at relatively low cost.

Um, just a fun fact we hosted 20 birthday parties ranging from ages six to sixty-five.

Uh we had a couple marquee events.

Um, so it's part of NGK Day, it's called SLS League.

It's a skateboarding competition took over.

We hosted an air show, watch party, as well as a 4th of July wash party.

Um, this is something we are really proud of.

We had harder organizations, so nonprofits and small businesses represented from 17 different neighborhoods in Cleveland, as well as five surrounding suburbs.

We had over 70 nonprofit and small business partners uh as part of our programming last year, uh, including Solar Public, uh, who staffs our bar and provides food truck services.

They're the folks uh uh who run Angie Soul Food and in San Zball.

Uh from a weekly programming perspective, this is what you'll see every day this week as well.

So we are programming the site every single evening.

Um Monday and Tuesday, we have uh European-style FUTSO Soccer League, so group about Ohio City Soccer comes out.

Uh and it was I mean surprisingly successful last summer that a championship series on a Monday night that had 400 people on the site watching soccer.

Uh Wednesdays, P League is a basketball league on the east side that uses this uh for competitive tournaments throughout the summer.

Thursdays, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame hosts uh live music events and uh the bar is open as well.

Uh Fridays during the day, we have uh a youth skateboarding camp.

Um, inside one of those shipping containers is ramps and rails and a bunch of skateboarding uh equipment that they use.

And then in the evening, we work with um organization called Roland Buckeyes to do sort of pop-up roller skating events.

So just as an example, uh Rolling Buckeyes was there every Friday last year.

Uh we have a DJ meetings on uh on Fridays.

We had over 800 pairs of skates rented.

Uh we um subsidize their organization for my operational budget so they can offer these services for free to Cleveland residents.

I should add on unless you're buying food or drink, every single activity here is entirely free.

Uh attendees were represented by every single ward of the city, so 17 because this was last summer uh when we were keeping track.

Um and attendees came from 425 different zip codes across the country.

Um I'll let you read through these on your own, but again, have just overwhelmingly positive reviews, uh, especially from folks with young families looking for activities and looking for things to do on a Friday, Saturday, or Sunday on the waterfront.

Um just an initial you sort of see what we mean by kids' games, uh, and just giving folks uh an opportunity to have fun to enjoy Clinton's downtown Skyland at the south and the lake front to the north.

So that's all that I have for you.

Again, um not asking for any financial resources from the cities, just an assignment to allow us to continue uh programming for the summer.

Thank you.

Alright, this was uh Regime Transportation Mobility Council.

Uh yes, uh the department could explain more of that.

I understood their leases.

Council is not eating next week to the primary left.

I understood there in the time crunch relative to this facility being up and running this year uh size and surrounding the dedication of the USS, uh which was the purpose for me and transportation or controls.

Yeah, that's correct.

Starting on the first US.

Alright.

Uh we'll go to the pressure and rest of the case.

Um, this is like sure.

How much?

Um square footage.

Uh square footage at the top I don't know, it's a little over one acre of what is a 26-acre site.

So again, for context, it's around around 90 parking spaces of the 2100 parking spaces around the site.

So that entire chairman.

That entire parcel from uh the land or that's 26 or uh to the councilman through the chair, the entire service parking lot is a plus or minus chairs.

And is that all that city in the directory?

Chair council is someone who has been doing nothing.

I think are we aware um because I heard some things over the media?

Um are we aware of anything we're gonna show council to the developer for that purpose of the uh to the councilman through the chair?

Um we have engaged a master developer group multi-Gironimo, they're based here in Northeast Ohio.

Uh we are in the process of onboarding.

Uh there will be a number of other developers throughout the project here as well.

We are in the process of onboarding a new site planner uh to put together a site plan for the site without the stadium.

We'd expect to have expect to have something to share in the council and the general public late summer at this year.

Okay, was that an RFQ or are we going to run through that?

Correct.

And they were chosen.

They were chosen.

Sure.

Um to the council for the chair in partnership, uh, my organization and the Cleveland City China government work together.

As well as representatives from my uh board.

So they're working for board control.

Uh my organization is an independent 501c3.

But how do you um without authorization as well?

Uh to the councilman to the chair, uh, we are an independent 501c3.

We engage a development group and then a planner to do work on the site.

If there were any work to actually be done if they're where to enter into lease agreements, development agreements, uh, any sort of financing of community benefits ordinance, that would have to come from council.

This is just doing the planning that to go there.

Okay.

So you would expect chairman sometimes, something that you come back to us with that point or the directory.

I guess it's obviously the materialized from those efforts that are coming, they guess it would be coming through around this topic.

So parking road is there any revenue should be for parking plan right now?

Sharing council tests.

And what is it?

Uh I've added that.

What is the charge department?

Uh second hours.

And what about under leave and things?

Uh unless there's a special time or something.

So there's somebody they're taking some box.

How does it work then that would be a lot of people?

That's basically.

Oh, yeah.

So if you don't have a smartphone, what do you do?

So what about these folks that just have smart flip lines?

And it's all fair, so they don't have smartphones.

I would say just uh records uh very well saying how to the council chair.

Um, the Great Lake Science Center parking garage is also available, uh, which you don't need a smartphone to get in.

And I would add a majority of the use of this parking lot is for Cleveland Browns games, in which there are ticket uh folks who take uh tickets and painters.

Okay, so for the brown, is it still still boxed?

Um what is it?

And those revenues go through port control?

Those two from uh harbor fund, yes.

Well, I'll ask you the chair of the way to show you where those funds are going.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Thank you, Connor Brian.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman, Mr.

Chairman's drunker.

I think I just heard this term just out of the harbor funds.

So the harbor IV funds, all funds that are sacrificed, is enterprise fund revenues uh generated harvest property version from this peer um RAM and the last of this funds are to funditions uh contract for uh the highs.

Mr.

Chairman's director, how is a fundamental fund?

Chair's house not for the chairman to uh to Scott, first of all, for our conversation that's weird, thank you very much for the same thing.

To the council of the chair, absolutely, all for you.

Um and uh Mr.

Chairman Scott, how this is 90 spots of other personality, I think you said 2100.

Or 2100 stocks.

Is this the same all year?

Uh to the council through the chair, yes it does.

And then how much money did the city generate in revenue from this meeting of last year?

Uh to the council through the chair, I don't have that information.

We can uh look at parking charges to get you an estimate.

However, when we are working with small nonprofit organizations that are coming from uh areas of the city, we actually don't charge parking those days uh on purpose, so it is it's difficult to get specific parking revenue uh information to you.

Alright, Mr.

Chairman, to the director or staff, whatever if you can get us what the city generated through this initiative last year, all we care about is you know we don't want to give away the lakefront, you know, and uh not being able to generate short dollars.

This is if this is an example of what's going to be furthered out there, so we're not generating any dollars for this is a profitable to us.

Um I think we should we should show that.

So to the council through the chair, completely understand that we can get you what we have.

This is meant to be temporary, this is not a permanent structure, and when new developments uh come to the site, whether it be hospitality or multifamily or other other uses, this will come down.

Okay.

And then Mr.

Chairman, to Scott, is this your events that you run?

Uh start one.

Uh to the councilman through the chair, they start uh directly after the USS Cleveland commissioning ceremony, so they start June 1 and they'll go through the end of September.

Okay.

And then um, Mr.

Chairman, I'm still a little bad about this hardware revenue fund I don't have a number of.

Um I don't know if anybody else has, but uh maybe do transportation or something.

We can we can do a little deeper of a dive into what this hardware revenue fund is and where the dollars for this initiative is focused on.

Certainly can gather information around that for uh educational purposes so that we've bought our understands that fundament what it serves uh how the governments are driving where those are expanding in terms of our operations that are responsible for.

And then one thing I'd really like to make clear, Mr.

Chairman is um if this is I want to make sure not working about our enterprise dollars, right?

This is owned by the port, or it's an enterprise.

I want to make sure we want everything that we can to maximize what it is we're doing, we're doing everything above the home and legal.

And to the council from the chair, I don't work with the harbor fund at all.

Just you asked specifically about what's going used to fund this uh initiative.

This is solely my organization's operator budget.

There's no other funding source that goes towards this.

Right, and then Mr.

Chairman's what is your funding source?

Sure.

Funding source initially was uh uh three million dollars in market funds that were allocated three years ago now.

Um there is a small amount of uh new community authority revenue that's generated from some of these city young parking lots, um, and then it is portions, very small portions of the Hassan Settlement Group's uh uh fundamental.

All right, and the Mr.

German stat, just like we heard this morning three million dollars an hour for our maybe you can uh also update the channels where you're just the chart button how that was going to have to do it.

To the council for the chair, more than happy to come back in a couple months with a full report about budget.

I should add in Council President's on the board as well.

Okay, I understand that.

All right, thank you.

Thank you.

I believe finance verification on our to the chair community.

It's a special round fund that was through years ago because the harbor area is not part of the enterprise.

It's separate for some couple lots, so that one goes to the special revenue fund that we'll do conference years ago.

Uh, because they actually do like area maintenance of all three, uh Peter, uh the manner, and all that area.

So that's really spot money on the equipment here for the area that's out of that special fund.

All right, and then Mr.

Jerk, Mr.

Gentile, does that even include parking during Brown games so that the money that is generated from that lab or during Brown games does not come to the city of Cleveland, it comes to the R it goes to the Harvard Revenue Fund.

Uh it is part of the city.

Yes, it goes to our revenue fund because it's a hard property.

So the uh usually the general fund used to be little substance hard using general fund because the general reading project manager was quite exclusive to special fund.

So general fund is not fund harbors at all.

It's all for the own revenue, but it is part of the city of lead fund property doesn't go to the uh coast.

Um this is the problem.

We have uh we see that three eight.

Sure.

And we actually have some fun requests average.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

How much money is it?

Thank you.

All right, same though, other questions.

Or is the number 404 2026 and full of police active.

We're gonna go to IDS and have a couple of guests.

Development is 401-2026.

First one is ordinance number 401-2026 by council members Starr, Santana, and Griffin by departmental request, an emergency ordinance to designate certain parcels located within the midland development area and investment area pursued to Ohio Revised Code Section 1221 to declare sand parcels and brown field science requirements, environmental remediation suitable for redevelopment and to authorize a five-year tax exception for improvements to said property pursued to Ohio revised poll statement 5727.

Thank you, Council President and the Finance Committee for having us here today.

Um we believe most of you are aware of the city's collaborative partnership to create and cede the site readiness fund for good jobs.

Today our team will walk you through an opportunity to leverage significant uh grant dollars from the state to address one of the city's largest concentrations of vacant industrial land within the city of Cleveland.

Um I'm going to invite our Brownfields manager, John Fosbender, to provide a little bit more context and to introduce our guests who will walk you through the one pager.

Thank you.

Um it's been I've had the opportunity and the pleasure to work with such funds since its inception.

Um have been able to see the tourist pace with which they are developing and buying the properties and cleaning them up and getting them ready for the fundamental.

This designation that we're asking the council to make would open up a greater amount of finance, a greater amount of grant funds through the Ohio Department of Development Brown Food Radiation Program.

And thankfully, I have uh with me Rick Fardo, who's the director of site development discipline, Orlando Grant, who's a manager of community engagement, and Catherine Cherese, who's a consultant of the TRC.

And they're going to take good afternoon.

Thanks so much for hearing our piece of legislation.

Wonderful to be back here at the table.

As John said, and Trudy mentioned the site fund was created in 2023 to return a thousand acres of vibrant vacant industrial land to productive use and create good jobs for Cleveland business.

Now certain neighborhoods have been previous recipients of Brownfield funding, but every year the state of Ohio continues to change their guidance and their rules, and this year they created this new uh designation called Priority Investment Area, which is basically a collection of former vacant industrial sites that are heavy contamination and places where we are currently working.

So many of these sites have sat idle for decades, environmental challenges that have prevented reinvestment.

And this is an attempt for us to turn some of those vacant and abandoned factories back into production use by being able to apply for this grant funding.

Thank you.

All right.

I think if I can just add to kind of wrap it up, um an important piece of this is that uh typically we'll have to apply annually for up to a one million dollar allocation.

This specific um uh designation would allow us to be eligible for up to 10 million dollars.

So very significant opportunity for us to leverage the funds that the city has already put into the project.

We also are not asking for the city to add any additional funds.

This is purely a designation.

Got it.

So just give me a sense of where the midline development area is added.

All right, go for it.

The midline development area is roughly a collection of 89 acres, 52 parcels that will stretch along the North Hole Southern Rail Line that will go from uh Euclid Avenue to Opportunity Corridor.

Okay, and that covers uh mainly ward five or whatever entirely in Ward Five.

Entirely in Ward Five.

Okay.

Alright, uh this went through BPS Councilwoman Santana.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair Beddett and pass the DPS.

Thank you.

Councilman Sartre.

Thank you.

Yes, you thought.

First of all, before you guys split, um I think it's very important this whole initiative.

Could you provide to us the sites that you already have that uh are working on that would be very helpful?

Citywide broken down by ward, I'd appreciate that.

Thank you.

Would you like me to uh through the council for the connection right there through the chair to the councilman?

Would you like me to list that?

I'll send them.

You'll send them through just all right.

So if you can work with Ms.

Andrew Jusney to uh facilitate that inscription, okay.

Thank you.

All right, thank you.

Uh next ordinance is ordinance number 402026 by Council Member Site.

An emergency board that's authorized in a director of development.

Just depends on a loan agreement with guardian structural technologies, or its designated to provide economic development assistance to parsley finance the acquisition of machinery and equipment associated with the company's expansion to the building located at 18105 Cleveland Parkway and other associated costs necessary to acquire the machine.

Uh thank you, Council President Griffin and the Finance Committee.

This is our second and final piece for the day.

Um we are seeking council approval to provide a loan to a growing manufacturing company who we're really excited to support as they expand their operations within the city of Cleveland, thankfully.

Thankfully.

I'll invite our project manager Bobby Bruno to tell you a little bit more about the company and walk you through the proposed loan structure and also introduce our guest.

Good afternoon.

So happy to be joined here by Greg Trumell from the company.

So this company is Guardian Structural Technologies.

They're a Cleveland manufacturer of high performance, innovative building envelope systems, comprised of galvanized steel and insulated foam, which is really sort of fancy way of saying cool new building technology that I not that's brown, but this man is extra.

And so they currently take up about 15,000 square feet in more than 13 on their out of space.

So they need a second location to expand to meet this kind of all this new housing we have is happening.

So they've identified a second building at one 8105 Cleveland Parkway to sign a lease act.

And they need about 1.5 million dollars of equipment to fill that building and get it collected.

The space they'll take up will be uh about 35,000 square feet to start and it'll expand to about 48 48,000 square feet over time.

Uh and this piece of machinery is a hot wire uh manufacturing uh piece of equipment, and so this will kind of add like five or eight times uh production speed capacity for uh guardians operation as they uh seek to fill all these uh new opportunities there again.

Uh as a result, uh they've requested a $500,000 uh loan from the Department of Development uh to assist with that.

Uh the loan term, so this would be uh loan up that full $500,000 request.

Uh this would be a seven-year loan term at 5%.

Uh and the the huge benefit to the city is uh the retention of 11 FTEs and the creation of 16 uh new full-time uh W2 employees.

Uh this will uh add payroll uh to the city of Cleveland to the tune of about 967,000.

Uh that is about $80,000 per job created in annual salary.

Uh and that will uh benefit the annual income tax base by about 24,000.

Uh so with that uh respectfully requesting uh approval of this loan requests regarding structural technologies.

Thank you.

Uh councilwoman Santana.

Oh, sorry.

It was embedded and approved, passed by DPS.

Thank you, Councilman Carl Sight.

Thank you.

Happy to help this company uh get a second location uh in the West Hart neighborhood uh so that uh we can have together to help this company grow.

And I know there's a lot of interest uh specifically in uh what you do and what we are trying to accomplish here of uh creating new housing.

Uh also for cycling this is uh partnership that we're having to help facilitate.

Thank you so much.

Councilman uh Chris Harsh.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um visiting our construction technology, we're very innovative uh uh process for building uh building samples.

Uh yeah, as a response to this, if I could.

Uh I didn't see my updated, so I can just yeah, appreciate that.

Could we make sure that councilman horse is added?

What is that 402?

401.

No, this is two.

402.

402.

Okay.

Thank you so much, Councilman Gasey.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Mr.

Chairman, to the project manager.

Project manager.

Um guardian, you have no intention of leaving the current limits, right?

I just want to make sure that we're at baby property.

All right, good luck.

Thank you.

Councilman Michael Belisley.

Thank you.

Thank you, Chairman Myel McColley, to the department.

So is this for both commercial and residential construction?

Uh, through the chair and councilman, uh, this company can do both commercial and residential construction.

Yes.

So it is a pre-fab wall panel.

Do you want to talk through that?

Correct, yes.

And you just uh lift it, put it in place.

Correct.

Eight foot squad sections.

Okay.

Have you have you built any houses uh in the city of Cleveland with this process?

Yes, roughly I think 30 at this point.

30, yeah.

Could you um get us?

Did you send the members of council some information on that?

And channel 20 is having technical problems.

Yeah.

So yes, we could do that.

Through the um uh chair to the councilman.

Also, I believe when we were at the table for DPNS on Tuesday, uh uh DJ, uh another uh owner of the company had mentioned that a couple projects are wrapping up on Buckeye.

And that we L would in the process of going yes, so we're gonna try to coordinate once those are um yeah, site visit for everybody.

Because I think we've all come to realization to because I've been pushing module for years and years of construction.

We have to look at different types of construction technologies and what we can put up that is quick, cost effect of and has and durability.

And so I'm looking myself.

I'm gonna work with habitat on project, but I'm looking at all types of other opportunities and um so you contract with uh Mr.

Chairman, you contract with developer to put these up, or you you are the contract, you are the developer.

We work with developers.

Okay, so whatever information you could supply would be very helpful.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Thank you.

So now the question is ordinance number 402-2026 as amended or added with councilman uh horse's name stands approved.

Thank you.

We're going to go to city planning.

One or more professional consultants to enhance the existing form-based code pilot program and expand the form-based code to additional districts angiography or with three one-year options to remove exercisable with additional legislative authority, and the amendment states as follows.

There's no legal objection to this legislation if amended as follows.

One, in section one, at line six, strike and expand the form-based bill to additional districts and geographies.

Number two, in section two at the end, insert the director of city planning shall provide written notice to the curve of council whenever any purchase is made through the cooperative process, which notice shall include the details of such cooperative purchases.

This was dated 310 26, signed by Mary Cornley, assistant director of law, and assistant director and director.

Good afternoon, uh Council President Shannon Leonard, Chief Zoning Administrator.

I apologize.

I have one more amendment that I did not see read.

And I want to make sure I get this.

This is at the end of section two, insert the director of city planning.

So provide written notice to the clerk report whenever any purchases made through the cooperative process, which notice shall include details of such cooperative purchases, and this is section three, should be changed from 6926 to 6985.

Do I have um anybody to profit that amendment?

So councilman Slide is probably the minute.

We have a second second of councilwoman Jasmine Santa.

Alright, so the properly move the second.

Any discussion?

Mr.

Chairman, yes.

Clerk to council.

Thank you.

All right.

Um all in favor say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed?

The eyes have it.

So there's one name.

Please please note the name.

Thank you.

Please move forward.

Thank you.

Uh good afternoon, Council President Shannon Leonard, Chief Zoning Administrator.

I'm joined here by Director Callie Merzman, as well as our associate, our GIS planner, um, Mr.

Ari Lazaritis.

Uh so this ordinance, we're just gonna kind of go through uh the some zoning one-on-one real quick.

What is form-based code and why do we need it, and then the progress to date and looking for it, which is this specific ordinance that we're requesting here.

Um so zoning regulations are made up of two main components.

You have the text that describes uh what should or can happen on uh any given parcel of property, and then you have the maps that show uh where a given textual regulation applies.

So that's your zoning map that you see here in the corner.

Um the way that a zoning regulations are applied to a parcel can be adjusted in two ways.

Either you can seek a use or area variance through the board of zoning appeals, or you can have legislation by council council as you all are um fully aware of.

Any changes to the text regulations or the zoning maps must be passed by city planning commission as well as legislated through city council, the mandatory public hearing component.

So some examples of recently legislated zoning changes was the form-based code pilot that was passed in the summer of 2024.

We also had the smoke shop regulations that most recently passed, as well as the small box discount retail stores that passed in 2022.

And then you've obviously seen several at DPNS of various specific project-specific map changes as well as some district map changes.

And so what is the difference?

So we have two zoning codes currently.

We have what is known as Euclidean, where it's really organized around separated uses.

It was last comprehensively updated in 1959, which codified a suburban style development preference, and it made many existing buildings and mixed-use neighborhoods non-conforming.

So this often requires extra burden through the Board of Zoning Appeals or project-specific map changes that you all see here.

And so what the city has been doing with the pilot as well is moving more towards a form-based code, which is a more modern way to do zoning across the city.

It's designed to be more consistent with the historic built form of the city, as well as allow complementary uses such as residential office and small business.

It also supports walkable mixed-use, mixed-income communities, and it also reduces the administrative procedural and financial burdens not only on city staff but also developers and residents across the city.

And so why are we moving more towards a form-based code?

The zoning code today primarily focuses on how buildings are used, like can residential, commercial, industrial, and less applies on whether that actually fits within the city itself or within the land use patterns generally.

Our neighborhoods are not all the same, and so it's a very one-size fits-all, which again reduces in several trips to the Board of Zoning appeals for variances that are commonly given.

And then it also shifts the focus from how buildings are used or how they look to how they look, feel, and fit within the city.

So how does that use actually sit within not just that specific structure on that specific lot, but through that whole the whole street itself, right?

So a lot of times the design review process that you see that is baked actually into the form-based code.

And this allows for more flexibility, ensuring new development matches not just the use but also the scale and design of the surrounding community.

It also expands equitable options for housing and transportation, so every neighborhood can grow in a way that works for the people who live there.

So what can the community expect?

For most homeowners, little will change.

We're updating outdated rules so that it's easier to repair, refinance, and rebuild your home without any unnecessary zoning hurdles.

We're simplifying the code so it's easier to understand and use, so it's a lot more pictorial, more hands-on for just the average person.

It also allows for more housing options within the neighborhood.

So expanding choices for different incomes and life stages while also preserving the character of your neighborhood.

And then also easier for small businesses to open and grow.

So streamlining permits and making it easier to activate existing storefronts that are currently vacant.

And so just a couple examples of the current neighborhood challenges and some of the solutions that have come about through the pilot is the current zoning separates those land uses, which can lead to sprawl and make it harder for access to everyday amenities and jobs without a car.

The form-based code encourages a mix of uses along commercial corridors, making it easier to walk the shop services and job opportunities.

Excuse me.

It limits housing supply and can call out of step with demand due to complex restrictive regulations.

We know that through the various the amount of residential that is going through the Board of Zoning Appeals on a week-to-week basis.

The form-based code actually expands the range of housing options for different incomes and life stages while ensuring new development fits in the character of the neighborhood, so to give you a good example.

Our current code has single family, two-family, and then multi-family, meaning that you can have one family houses, two family houses, or unlimited housing as much as you can fit on a lot.

The form-based code allows for more gradual shift in density, so you go from single family, two-family, three-family, four-family up to eight units before you go to multifamily, which is as many units as you can fit within this parameters of the envelope.

So many low-cost barrier to entry positions are very hard in our current code.

Whereas the form-based code supports a wider range of building types and uses, making it easier for smart small businesses to start grow and thrive within their communities.

So we're talking about smaller enterprises such as maybe a mortgage broker or if you're doing any type of crafting and you're selling your services.

The form-based code allows that in specific areas with certain restrictions based on you know hours of operation, appointment only, things of that nature.

And then streamlined administrative processes and user-friendly.

So our clear current zoning lacks clear, consistent permitting process, making applications difficult for both staff and the public to navigate.

The form-based code establishes more of a modern application and permitting process that reflects how development works today.

Whereas the form-based code uses clear lit language and lots of visual standards, making the code easier to navigate, understand, and use.

This attracts new housing and local businesses, and it also removes barriers to good projects that can move forward faster.

What this means, some examples is a bacon storefront can more easily become a cafe or a small business.

A homeowner can add a unit for a family for rental income.

New housing can be built that fits the scale of the block so that any home that is built can fit in within the scale of the existing homes on those streets.

And mixed use four doors can support a variety of shop services and jobs within walking distance to every home.

So some of the progress today and looking forward with the form based code.

Pre-2019, as you all may remember, the partnership with the Urban Lands Institute, as well as variety of other stakeholders.

There were studies that occurred as well as some seminars to really kind of set the stage for the initial phase of the pilot.

And in 2019 to 2024, there was the creation of the form-based code pilot.

There was significant planning, policy, community engagement, and legislation that created the four pilot neighborhoods of Detroit Shoreway Cadell, as well as the Huff neighborhood, and then two areas along Opportunity Corridor.

And that lasted far longer than expected due to the COVID-28 pandemic.

And then the R FBRC refinement that we've been looking towards is policy and planning, community engagement and legislation to update our existing form-based code text with the lessons learned from this pilot.

We would like to build out new code sections, districts to address desired forms and uses.

We would like to map the form-based code in additional areas with public and council support.

And then enhance the community notification and input opportunities with for the form-based code projects.

And so in 2024, the form-based code pilot was adopted under Title VIIA into the ordinances, and it was mapped in those four locations that I had just spoke about, and then four semi-annual reports are available, summarizing the experience with the form-based code to date, which you all received, I believe last week.

However, those are that is an ongoing process.

This is just give you an idea of the reports to date.

This was backed, this was a shot from November when we originally went through planning commission.

You all have received a more up-to-date report as of last week.

So the purpose of this ordinance is really additional planning, community engagement, and policy work are required to create the zoning recommendations from the form-based code, so text and map changes to bring the city council for consideration.

This is really using money that was allotted and that we're asking to be able to bring into use.

Any map changes or text changes or code changes would obviously have to be legislative in nature and come before this the council.

And from the form-based code, what we have learned is introducing or rising district types to accommodate uses not well served today, such as automotive, industrial, entertainment, waterfront, and transit-oriented development.

We want to build on lessons from the pilot districts and refinement of those provisions around the administration of the code, community notification, streetscape easements, accessory dwelling units, and first four residential restrictions that were put in place prior to COVID.

We would like to address conflicts with the fire code that have posed barriers to infill and adaptive reuse in the built-out context, and that's across both codes.

We would like to create a framework for predictable user-friendly standards that support housing variety, flexibility of emerging uses and a high quality public realm, as well as support community engagement and clear communication to residents.

So going through those really quickly and briefly, the administration and usability.

We want to clarify the permitting pathways, variance, standards, and the cumulative versus non-cumulative use table.

So for example, under the Euclidean code, our predominant code, everything is separated by uses.

What's allowed in a less restrictive district is generally not allowed in a more restrictive district, and it's kind of follows this hierarchy of uses, if you will.

In the form-based code, it allows that hierarchy of uses, but we really want to determine and we are looking for more specific in terms of is this permitted, is this not permitted?

This is a conditional use.

We want to vary the flexibility to support multi-generational housing as well as age and place housing and how that works on the site or what.

The other thing that we would like to look at is the ground floor height and residential restrictions.

As we've gone through this pilot, what we have come to term is reassess whether the ground floor clear heights and active use thresholds are necessary and or you know helpful as it were pertains to certain projects.

So to just give an example for many OFA type projects, they don't like to go above that ground story height of eight feet because of financing issues.

And so, you know, one of the things we want to look at is you know, maybe bringing that down for specific projects or across the board.

And then the other item here is evaluating whether the prohibit prohibition on residential with the first floor and our urban node districts and outright ban on urban innovation campus districts align with our market demand and housing goals.

So in a post-COVID world, we have noticed that there's lots and lots of vacant storefronts and that residential restriction has often created issues.

And I think there's a way to have eyes on the street without outright prohibiting residential in the first floor.

The other is district types and uses.

So for a modern zoning code that applies to the whole city as a singular code.

A good zoning code provides a place for everything and everything in its place.

We would like to really introduce a revised districts to capture uses not well addressed.

So, for instance, automotive oriented uses are completely prohibited in the form-based code pilot districts currently, but we know that they exist.

Should they be on every corner?

No.

But maybe there's a place for them specifically in the city that would that is appropriate.

True industrial uses, so true manufacturing warehousing and distribution, and then emerging tech uses, so data centers, for instance, where that needs to go in the city needs to be revised.

The other thing is transit-oriented development districts, so waterfront and riverfront districts align with vision for the valley and lakefront planning, as well as emerging uses such as maker spaces, artisan production, and hybrid work live options.

All of these types of things are not addressed in the pilot districts, so they are not appropriate to expand to everywhere in the city at this time.

And then we would also look to look at the streetscape easement and frontage standards of the form-based code.

We want to evaluate how the streetscape easement requirement functions on built-out corridors, and so proposing differentiated standards by corridor types, such as obviously Detroit and West 25th are very much different than Broadway or say Lorraine, and we want to ensure feasibility on those constrained sites.

And then as it pertains to the fire code and infill development, we know that in practice, stringent fire code application has created barriers for infill development and adaptive reuse projects.

So we would like to work with the consultant to identify creative code acceptable strategies that balance life safety with urban form goals, including alternative compliance paths and design mitigation appropriate for Cleveland's built-out urban context.

And then design and technical standards, review door spacing, transparency, amenity space, parking location and screening, EV charging and garage placement, all of these are not quite built out yet in the existing form-based code, and we would like to tackle that as those are growing issues across the city.

And then we want to recommend adjustments to balance functionality with those design quality standards that have been adopted by planning commission and that are design guidelines throughout the city.

And then eventually get to recommendations for future map changes.

So potentially proposing additional locations across the city where the city planning commission, as well as the council, could or should consider map changes that apply to form based code.

And lastly, communications and community input, increase community understanding and comfort with the form-based code through clear communications and digestible resources, collect community input to inform policy choices and continue to shape our corn-based code and recommend mechanisms for community information input about future developments under the form-based code.

So one of uh the things that have come up is how how can we inform the public?

Uh, one of the ways that we would start up doing is placing things on our website and sending out uh mass notifications, and then also provide communications and community engagement support and strengthen those practices under form-based code projects.

Um, and so this is just giving you an example of birthing beautiful communities in the Huff neighborhood uh that was uh developed under the form-based code, and then the Huff Senior uh on the lower left corner, you can see um also was a project that was developed and approved under the form-based code.

Both of these came in at a time where the form-based code has wasn't yet adopted, but aspired to develop to the code requirements uh and did so uh and are now in either their construction phases or preliminary permit, the end of their permitting phases.

And for that, I'll take any questions.

Thank you.

Uh I know that I've had a lot of this in um corridor, a couple of areas that we've had, so um it worked pretty decent for me over and out to the corridor, especially the uh new um especially the new economy neighborhood.

So appreciate uh councilman Santana.

This is in the ES.

Yes, this was heard and vetted.

I do have a question, um, just because I've been getting asked.

This is not to implement any form-based zoning at this point.

This is just to hire a consultant that is going to review the data and give us feedback and input, but council members will decide if they move forward whatever project that is decided on, correct?

Yeah, through the council uh president and chairwoman.

Um, yes, that's correct.

This is for money that we had already set aside for professional services.

This will allow us to go ahead and put that RFP or RFQ out to to engage a consultant to go through this process.

Okay, thank you.

All right, thank you.

Uh starting from this.

Oh, good.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Um there was a lot said here.

A lot said.

So to follow up on councilwoman saying final question.

At some point, you'll be coming back to us to actually vote for the body of the vote on the new zoning code.

I'm trying to explain and say it in simple terms and is direct as I can, so our viewing public can understand this because zoning has always been a hot and uh hot issue topic in our neighborhoods.

Um so at some point you're gonna come back with two to vote on a zoning code, correct?

Through the chair to the councilman, that's correct.

This is uh not the text or any map amendments, any of those will come back through this body.

Okay, so when you come back to us, you'll bring us an entire map of the city of Cleveland based on awards, correct?

In terms of the the entire map, that may not be created through this proposal.

But what we are asking through this proposal is to amend the text of the legislation and any future map amendments would go through council.

But if we are open to doing the full city, we could definitely call it.

But Mr.

Chairman, uh, if you're gonna ask us to vote on it, why wouldn't we we have the ability to look at the zone the map layout for each of our wards to the councilman through the chair?

You will have the ability to look at the map through any amendments that come.

The rezoning process is pretty detailed oriented, and so it's unlikely you would come back with the entire city at one time.

It's most likely that we will go by district or by need.

You might have a problem though.

Because you're gonna ask me to vote on a zoning code, and I don't know what my what is gonna how my neighbor is gonna look.

So why should I vote for that?

Through the chair to the councilman.

So there's two parts of this.

You have the text and the map.

The text is the development of the text itself, so development standards as well as districts.

You could say they're kind of like use districts, right?

And those are just creating them without mapping them.

But if you were to choose to map them, we would obviously uh work with you one on one to do that if you would like to do that with the map and then districts filled out.

Well, again, I want to go back to Chairman Wright said the zoning code was initially set, correct me if I'm wrong in 29, 1929, with revised in 49, and then you mentioned 55.

So I wasn't clear what what took place in 59.

Through the chair to the councilman, there's been review, there has been amendments to the code since 1929, so 96 years of code changes.

There was a large overhaul in 1929 and 1949.

If I said 1959, I might have misspoked.

Okay.

But there was 1949 is when the city was trying trying to zone more like the suburbs in a lot of respects in a way to stop the people from leaving the city.

Right, because up to 29, it was a free-for-all in the city.

And then again, the code was established in 49.

Again, there were major changes.

Because in the day, uh what most of us did, and I'm the only one left here, we we tried to take action to protect the neighbors by creating local um local uh we had local retail, general retail, etc.

So most of us on our commercial districts at the time rezoned to local retail to protect us from used car lots uh in a uh establishment with live entertainment, adult uses.

Uh I can go down the list of billiard car, pool halls.

We did that to protect our commercial districts, plus we had the single-family um use districts, two family, uh multi-family, et cetera.

Um, so obviously what's being proposed are significant changes to make to bring quote unquote, I guess, to bring us into the 21st century.

But I want to make sure, Mr.

Chairman, to the department, that in the course of doing that, I want to make sure that our residential districts are still protected.

Because when I I watched this situation, I watched the show on Saturday, in fact, it was on Sunday, this old house, where now some cities are allowing the construction of another unit behind an existing home for mom and dad or grandma and grandpa.

But our lots in the city of Cleveland are basically in my own neighborhood, 40 to 50 feet in width and maybe 100 feet to 125 feet in depth, uh, approximately again, 4,000 square foot lots.

And I'm trying to, I'm trying to watch this on Sunday, saying to myself, well, well, wait a minute, how do you gonna build, how are you gonna build another unit behind the existing unit?

Um the density, the density is the question.

I want to make sure whatever acts that we're taking does not allow that without a bearance through the council president to the chair to the councilman.

So where the single family districts are currently mapped, they have stayed.

We have not rezoned any of those single-family districts where there's two family districts currently, you can put up to two dwelling units on a lot, you have to fit within the setbacks, and the same is true in the form-based code where it is mapped house three or house four.

You're gonna be able to do that without a variance, put another unit on the property.

You can only place it on the on the lot if you have if you meet within the setbacks in the envelope that's permitted on a site or a lot that's great.

Okay, well, again, I want to make sure that all of a sudden, because you know what's happening in our city with these limited liability companies coming in, buying up everything they can, that they're not gonna try to jam additional units on a piece of property with just another area of what they look upon as another more cleft cash flow out of that property.

I'm concerned about density in my own neighborhood on some properties.

So I want to make sure that's protecting.

My last question I won't believe quite, Mr.

Chairman, and again, um, where in this form-based code or what you're gonna have to consultant looking, coming back to um where do front load garages come in?

Through the council president to the chairman, I mean to the councilman, I apologize.

Uh so front loaded garages are not addressed in this code in the form-based code, other than parking needs to be behind the building or in the rear as it is today in our current code, um, or in the Euclidean code.

And so that is one of the things that would we would like to address in the text of the form base code pilot is is there a proper location for you know the front-loaded garage or the front facing garage.

Because right now you're not allowed, Mr.

Chairman, and that's been a big issue with me when I have developers who want to put in front low garages in neighborhoods that are highly distressed, vacant lots, abandoned houses, and yet we will not let a development takehold without a front low garage.

I don't get it.

And I've said it repeatedly, I'm gonna continue to say it.

I mean, it's asked night.

I mean, I got a front low garage on my house.

And my neighbor across the street has a rear load garage.

And so at the end of the day, um, we've got to make things uh we just heard and we just came out of caucus where Tom McNair got 18,000 vacant lots in the city.

We need new development.

And when we're saying no, you can't build if you want to put in a front low garage.

To me, it's it's it's ridiculous.

We need to be support of developers.

Um if they're if they're if the if you're you're violating the subback provision, that's one thing.

But if you're complying with the sub back division and you want to put in a front road garage, um I I don't understand what the issue is with this administration about front low garages.

I mean, come on now, really.

We need to support housing development in a neighborhood.

And if a developer wants to put in a front row garage, what's in there being okay to get the new houses put up in our neighborhood?

And so I'm that's being an issue with me.

But I'm not gonna vote for anything.

Uh any change in the zoning code until I see I want to see my ward.

I want to see Ward 10, how it lays out in Ward 10.

Um, and I that's my opinion.

I don't know if anyone shares it with me, but that's my opinion.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Thank you, Council Richard.

Yes, Council President.

Just ordinance I was I was looking up and I was seeing obviously it was introduced um last November and it was in her until this year.

Um, but then it's coordinates 1398.

What are our specific outcomes?

Are we expecting from the side?

And how well do we measure success?

The council and chairs, specific outcomes include text recommendations for us to react to city council where the four days for zoning text on the topics that are chief zoning administrators, we have representation as well as community and communication tools around those changes to those changes.

We also anticipate as council and samples will lead to recommendations in terms of where to apply or map those text um those I mean tax regulations offices, they are systems, of course, which we looked at back to state council and talk about so there are these two elements instead of the chair.

The text is in the flight by urgences, it's half the console, and then that text is not as so this work will be evaluation set of repacted legislative settings.

Okay, so we so we are so are we expanding form basically because we know that it is active currently or are we still at five phase until we get all the results that are the chair through the chair to the councilman?

So ideally in the long run, we would be operating under one single modern zoning code to administer across the city.

And this particular run, we know from the pilot of you know some of the things that are playing out in the real world that don't necessarily align with the intent, and so we're trying to fix those items and then also provide for more uh districts, if you will, zoning districts to accommodate it for all types of uses uh and building forms across the city in hopes to bring back before this body at some point in the future, at the end of this um this to work with council one-on-one as well as across the board in terms of applying the um zoning districts and more areas across the city.

But in this specific instance, what we're just asking out of this item is to engage the R put the RP out with an engage a consultant to help us develop that and add staff capacity.

Okay, so as you have to think about what you're saying, um president's machine expert on I just think about gentrification.

So when we're getting regularly expanded for basically different neighborhoods, how do we make sure that we are not participating in basically celebrating displacement of residents or communities and gentrification and those vulnerable neighborhoods, and we have anything in place as far as protections for the current residents which are through the um council president uh to the councilman?

So gentrification is a quite large issue that's not uh only uh protected from through zoning, but I understand the question.

Um it's multiple layers of the city that you know have to partake from community development, economic development, as well as zoning.

Um but then what we're asking for through this piece of legislation is to engage the consultant really to fix the text, expand the text, uh, and then work with you all as well as other departments from through the city as it pertains to actually mapping new districts in different areas of the city.

Thank you to him.

Sometimes I'm just fuse on the reason why we do a lot of consultants for different projects and just don't still understand your last careers.

125,000 on investment is something that is going to help in the long run as far as what type of long-term value are we going to get to the city from this investment of 25,000 as opposed to the other type of work internally inside of the parking planning to the council president.

Through the council president to the councilman.

Well, first and foremost, for the city of Cleveland, our zoning section went from one and two people to now roughly seven people that that only that deals with strategic zoning across the city, the entire city itself, but also does all of the permanent and zoning reviews for any type of development or uh renovations or any of those things.

And so what we're looking to do is add capacity to our staff in that regard by adding the consultant because this is quite a large undertaking when you're talking about rewriting the rules and regulations as it pertains to land use across the city.

Um and I will defer to our director to uh provide a little bit more context for you.

Um build capacity within our state staff as well.

For the same word specifically, working with the consultant is valuable because there are consultants that have experience with the same type of transitions and other cities that has the country.

There are things that we can hear from them that we would not have the soldier to the data respect it as within our staff.

This is structured as a tax order contract so that we can use it as much or as little as we need to for specific tasks to build out the zoning anticipation.

Is that um they will be especially helpful in fact for the text and lessons or in terms of what has been helpful in any regulations text in other places or that our staff have to test on the ground knowledge about very specific districts or most remote for specific parcels?

So as we go to separate relationship um consolidating it to one code as Shannon said, there will be uh quite a lot of opportunity for our staff and our department cleaning that our local knowledge out is really state for us and um working closely with the consultant.

Thank you, and um just for the standpoint, this power and so is it yes, yeah.

And then with that's a point um just from just from my whole link list to try to understand the consumption piece of it, especially those dollars.

I do wear uh saying with Sam Mr.

President on how they need to outsource it to be able to get those experts who understand um the zoning or these trends that we're looking to do from the form-based level.

Um I just want to make sure we have um an answer to question of um how do we measure outcomes and actually what are we getting back and return on our investment when um I don't know if we actually know that this process is actually proving much of anything for actual results and if we're about to expand on it, what's the reason for us to ban on it if you don't know the deliverables?

So that was just something that I just want to make sure I just um just give my thoughts and my opinion um because I do support the golfness of the planning department, but it has to be actually data-driven for us to get into um see why we are spending this time on the side project and I don't see thank you.

Uh seeing no other questions, ordinance number 1398 gas 2025 as amended stands approved.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh I'm gonna go to the mocap if I could for a brief moment.

If we could with MoCap, we do have a few amendments.

And I do want to just state a couple of things as we make amendments.

And what I'm going to do is read, these are all companion pieces.

So I'm going to read all of them into the record as well as the amendments.

Alright.

First one is ordinance number.

As amended.

By Councilmember Bishop, Santana, and Griffin by departmental request.

An emergency ordinance determining the method of making the public improvement of designing and constructing, rehabilitating, renovating, replacing, and otherwise improving recreation facilities, ancillary, recreation buildings, parks and playgrounds, and other similar structures or amenities on city-owned and city lease parked property, including site improvements and purchases.

And authorizing the director of parks and recreation public works for capital projects as appropriate to enter into one or more public improvement contracts for the making of the improvements.

Enter into one or more professional services and other contracts needed to implement the improvement.

To apply for and accept grants and gifts and authorizing the direct direct employment of necessary labor for the Department of Parks and Recreation or Public Works or the Office of Capital Projects.

One in section one, line one, line six.

In section one, line six, strike two thirty-four-2026 and insert two thirty-four-2026B.

In line seven, after orders, insert in the estimated sum of 12 million $81, $8015, and two, section two, line three, after restricted income tax fund, insert fund number 20 SF 552, 20 SF 558, 20 SF 561.20, SF 565, 20 SF 577, 20 SF 584, 20 SF 590, 20 SF 595, 20 SF 700, 20 SF 708, 20 SF 714, 20 SF 720, and 20 SF 727.

Lines 3 and 11 after unspit insert recreation in quotations and strike future bonds and quotations and insert 2026 debt in quotations in all four places.

Line five, strike and shall be charged against the proper appropriation accounts.

Line 11 after restricted income tax insert fund number SF552, 20 SF558, 20 SF 561, 20 SF 565, 20 SF 577, 20 SF 584, 20 SF 590, 20 SF 595, 20 SF 700, 20 SF 78, 20 SF 714, 20 SF 720, and 20 SF 727.

And then the last line, after gifts receipt, insert for any debt issuance that is not general obligation bonds.

The director of finance shall notify the clerk of council to type to the type of debt issued and its terms.

This was dated 32526 by Nikki Delaney, Assistant Director of Law.

And there is a lot.

Is it separate?

Okay.

I have one more amendment for uh 234-2026.

Um this is in section one, strike in quotations 234-2026-B and replaced with 234-2026 C and strike 12 in quotations 12,801 dollars and 500 and replaced with 12,301 and $500.

That is the amendment.

And uh does anyone proffer that amendment?

All right, do I have a second?

Councilwoman Santana, a second, just so everybody can know we're doing.

And I'll go over that in a second.

So this is the recreation component.

We're basically we are not allocating the money that we originally were going to put for the reposition or put the recreation center across the convention center.

Just so everybody can know in latest terms what we're looking at doing.

Number two, this is amended 232-2026 as amended by council members Bishop, Belistic, Santana, and Griffin by departmental request.

And emergency ordinance determined the method of making the public improvement of designing and constructing or construction, rehabilitating, renovating, replacing, and otherwise improving public facilities, buildings, and other similar structures, including site improvements and purchases, and authorizing the director of public safety, public works, parks, and recreation, and/or capital projects as appropriate to enter into one or more public improvement contracts for making of the improvements.

Enter into one or more professional services and other contracts needed to implement the improvement to apply for and accept direct grants and gifts and authorizing a direct employment of the necessary labor for the Department of Public Safety, Public Works, Parks and Recreation, and Office of Capital Projects.

And the states that there is no legal objection to this legislation if amended as follows.

One in section one in the first paragraph, line five, strike in quotations two thirty two-2026-A and insert 232-2026-B.

And line six, after ordinance, insert the estimated sum of 22,254,400.

And in and two, in section 9, line 3, after restricted income tax fund, insert funds number 20 SF 566, 20 SF 585, 20 SF 587, 20 SF 588, 20 SF 591, 20 SF 596, 20 SF 701, 20 SF 705, 20 SF 711, 20 SF 715, 20 SF 721, and 20 SF 728.

Lines 3 and 11 after unspent insert public facilities and strike future bonds and insert in quotations 2026 debt in all four places.

In line five, strike and shall be charged against the proper appropriation accounts.

Line 11 after restricted income tax fund insert fund numbers 20 SF 566 20 SF 585 20 SF 587 20 SF 588, 20 SF 591, 20 SF 596, 20 SF 701, 20 SF 705, 20 SF 711, 20 SF 715, 20 SF 721, and 20 SF 728.

And then the last line, after gifts receipt, insert for any debt issuance that is not general obligation bonds.

The director of finance shall notify the clerk of council of the type of debt issued and its terms.

And there is an amendment to go with this, and this is for 234.

That's 232.

Yes.

Two amendments for 232.

And basically, this is to amend the amendments made in MSP in section one, strike 232-2026 B and replaced with 232-2026-C and 22, 254,400, replace it with 15,254,400.

Once again, these are companion pieces.

These are for the city hall renovations.

What these have done in essence is in 232, removed the 7 million city hall modernization project.

And council has requested the administration to break out the city hall modernization into separate legislation and have future discussions on ADA components and the amendments remove City Hall modernization project and correct C$ON.

So in essence, we there was money that the city capital MOCAP was going to use to put towards the garden renovation that would have included massive renovations to the entrance at the garden level of City Hall.

That also would have included a coffee shop as well as repositioning of the community relations board, and then they would have had 500,000 that would have renovated office space for uh parts and move them across to the convention center.

We do believe as a council, and many of the council members had a lot of discussion over this.

I'm gonna commend uh councilman bishop, who really had because discussions over this.

We really just feel that it's a good plan.

We do want to make City Hall more ADA accessible and want to have further conversations so that we're more ADA accessible.

We just feel that uh strongly at this point in time that there are other priorities that council had.

So we are looking forward to having conversations about um modernization in uh the future, just as of right now, council did not have the appetite after talking with any of the members to move forward with those expenditures in the capital improvement.

So that being said, I will now turn it over.

Okay, I move to accept the amendments as you have.

Thank you.

Councilman, uh, do we have a second?

I'll second.

Councilwoman Santana has seconded, so the amendment of the move is seconded.

Uh so 232 and 234 as amended, we will now hear any discussion on this actions.

Councilman Brian Casey.

Well, first of all, let me give the chairman if he would uh councilman bishop or did you have any comments you would like to make before we move this vote?

Uh Mr.

Chairman, we uh we voted this in uh uh MSP and we uh supported the past and we we are um looking forward to the uh new capital improvement plan.

Um so we can say the city's part of thank you.

Thank you, appreciate it.

Uh I have councilman Casey.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Mr.

Chairman to the director, in 232, what was the alight and model for um that was set aside to make the west end of the ADA?

The 232, the original allocation amount would have been 22 million two hundred fifty-four thousand four hundred dollars, and now we would remove seven million of that, which um would have gone towards the renovation of the garden area, which brings it to 15,254, and 400.

And then the recreation renovation to move over into the other to the convention center, that would have been five minutes.

But Mr.

Chairman, to the chairman to the director, yeah.

This is the seven million dollars was from the full renovation of the car, correct?

And that included everything included making the West Adam fund.

Of that seven million, how much is it designated set aside to make a bus and public building?

How much is that cost to make the outside of the building in the uh through the chairman and the councilman?

Thank you.

Uh, first of all, thanks for having us here today.

To my right, I have Mark Douler, who's the manager of city development and architecture and site development, and to my left, I think most folks know this is Jim McKnight, who designs and manages our construction of parks.

Um, so uh through the chairman and the councilman, your question related to the ADA components of the $7 million.

Um, we did uh submit to council a phasing plan, and that included um $4,354,740 related to ADA related improvements and uh $2 million,250 dollars that related to um non-ADA uh related improvements.

Um, I do want to emphasize that you need a place to receive folks after you build the entrance, and um it's not feasible to have two um safety checkpoints without adding additional operating costs to the city, so that's why Doug Phasing had to split out what's needed to not just build the entrance but to receive those folks with one CG checkpoint.

And Mr.

Chairman to the director, so you're telling me a dollar enough, right?

Um, through the chairman, councilman.

No, I just read two different numbers to you that's phase one and phase two.

If council wish to uh green light phase one, yeah, but what you're saying, Mr.

Chairman to the director is that we can't do just the ADA compliant part of it without doing the other part.

Right.

Uh no, sir, that's not what I said.

Okay, so then you are saying, Mr.

Chairman's director, that there is a possibility that we can do just the ADA compliance side of it without reviewing the rest of the uh the car company the basement.

Through the chairman and councilman, yes, we submitted a phase inclined to city council that split it into two parts.

Okay, thank you.

And councilman, I mean more to willing if we could go over that because pretty much what you were saying was what gave us pause.

Because even though we are firmly in support of the ADA, there are components of the plan that will still need to be done in order to accommodate that side of ADA.

So, sort of the thought process was let's just go ahead and pull it all out and then see what we can work with the administration to try to come up with something that is more ADA accessible, um, but is just didn't want to be the entire plan.

And quite frankly, when we went through the entire plan, and tell me if I'm wrong, director, there are elements that actually would have added up to more than seven million.

It would have been other components that would have uh when we did it in totality that also gave us a clause that it could have been more dollars is that direct as well.

Um Mr.

Chairman, so that is not correct.

So the seven million dollars will be the entire project.

Um what council also did though is we hugged back the half a million dollars, which was to move uh recreation parks and recreation over to public auditorium to to join them with the rest of the admin staff.

Um so if that's what you mean, yes, it's over seven million, but those are really two different elements.

So once again, we'll talk with our staff because when we added up some other elements, it would that other thing that gave us pause that it would look like it's some other cost with that.

And that's one of the reasons why we want to really slow this down, go over this again, and see what is what we believe is something that we can do, and what we um don't believe specifically.

But that's why we want to deploy the council.

And Mr.

Chairman, you know, I have been a huge proponent of making this building ADA compliant for many many years.

Um Mr.

Chairman to the director, these dollars are going to be bonded out, correct?

Uh these are these go ahead.

Mr.

Chairman and the director, just a reminder that we talked to council about how there's last April, last 2025 and April, how there's a change and how we're funding capital plans this year.

So it's first funded with uh general fund dollars, and then towards the end of the year they'll be bonded out.

So then, Mr.

Chairman to the director, even though the council at this point is pulling seven million dollars out, we still will have that seven million dollars uh laying around if the council decides to have that money allocated for a possible ADA availability matter.

Um through the chairman and the councilman, so um through this new process, if the project, any project is not included in the capital plan that comes through council at this time of year, which really should come through in January so we could hit you know the construction season.

Um we can come back to council with a separate piece of legislation that would authorize the project and make it eligible for bond funds later in the year.

So that's what we decided to do.

We appreciate um the this piece of legislation being heard both of these so that we can get these projects started that are on the approved list, but we're also looking forward to more discussions about the ADA enhancements because it's really about letting everybody access city hall without so many burdens and hurdles and not queuing up into the garage and not having to wait for somebody in the garage and not having to figure out a way to get your wheelchair through security.

Alright, and then my last question, I just want to make sure I've asked the other time there.

You know the answer.

Mr.

Chairman to the director, there is no capital dollars with the public population, correct?

Through the chairman, through the chairman, councilman, that is correct.

We've received our request, we've added no money in here for CDD.

Well, Mr.

Chairman to the director, I'll push back a little on that that you received no request because I've been asking for money for 10 years now.

Okay, so I don't know what I don't know what a request has to be, but if that's the case, then please put it on your radar, Mr.

Chairman to the director, that I have a formal request for capital dollars for Cleveland Public Power the next time we come up with a capital call.

Well, capital project plan.

Through the chairman and councilman, um Brooke on Brooke Saban on your staff puts a requested for council members to let us know what your priorities are, and that was not on your priority list.

And furthermore, capital projects does not manage uh CPP's budget, so as they come through city council for uh discussion hearings, I would suggest that that's when that is brought up.

Alright, well, it's good to know that Mr.

Chairman to the director that Cleveland public powers not.

Just as you say it's not a priority for city council.

Uh we see it's not a priority for the administration as you didn't come up with the thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Thank you.

I just want to make sure that I clarified and make sure that everybody understands what I was talking about.

Under the five-year capital plan, under city hall modernization, there was scheduled to be seven million for this year.

Five hundred thousand in 2027.

In 2028, 7 billion.

And 2029, half uh the 500,000, and then in 2030, it would have been um another seven million.

So when I say that in its totality, I'm looking at the next five years.

Okay.

So what I really want us to do if we could is we want to re-engage the uh MoCap in order to see how we can have a plan that can still work on looking at 88 accessibility.

However, I think that we can um start from scratch with that amount.

Consulting Kevin Complete.

You say start from scratch.

I mean um uh CPU as well as um the director, you gotta get the timelines.

I think he just mentioned that it needs to be uh a certain time period, but he didn't say when I'm championing this disability fees, and it gotta be there.

Now I know people mentioned about the coffee shop, but I have to see the scopes.

You can say what you want to say, coffee shop, this and that.

The scopes when it comes down to projects, gotta do them.

So I'm gonna look at all of that as well as the timeline for this um because the rankers just mentioned it gotta be in by a certain time to have it done.

Now I'm echoing with um Councilman Brian Casey saying about that with disabilities.

It's a shame.

It's a shame.

You're not open it up, you already know.

And that's just my passion.

You've gotta have people with disabilities with it.

We gotta open this place up for them.

If he never ever mentioned CP, Glenn, you said we're gonna meet, we're going to discuss.

Well, we have uh director, did you have a date that you said that this had to be done?

I thought you said that we could already bring legislation back in.

Um, Mr.

Chairman, so the city council put a restriction on when uh these approved projects need to be contracted.

So each piece of CIP legislation, because of an amendment that you just read needs to be extended in 2026, or we have to come back to city council for pre-authorization for any projects that are anything that isn't purchased or encumbered in 2026.

You make some time constraints, bro.

So, Ms.

Through the Chair of the Councilman, the entrance that we have at the rear city hall meets a very specific requirement, but it's not accommodated.

City hall front steps, not accommodating.

The revenue we have on the east side of the building, it was built in 1984, right?

Not accommodating.

So what we're trying to do here is make city hall more accessible and equitable to everybody.

Is there a time frame by which that has to happen?

No, but we feel that it's important to start moving towards that project, even if city council doesn't approve it today.

We're uh submitting you know request for legislation so that we can be back at city council table to uh to figure out how we can make city hall more accessible.

It's it's it's the right thing to do.

So we look at that, so we had and then we take a look at that also in a long way.

Let's take a look at the parks and recreation centers as well for people with disabilities.

He or she might see their brother out there playing and then can't do because they have disabilities.

That's wrong.

That's wrong.

We need to open that up as well.

We do this and then we move forward for that as well.

Anyone's parts or the birds props, anywhere at K week, we gotta open that up for people with disabilities.

And also I want to see about this uh this coffee shop as well.

I'm gonna take a look at the scope of that also.

I'm gonna say I'm forward, but I gotta see if I understand what's going on.

But that disability piece, that's first late for me.

All right, thank you.

Yes, sir.

All right, thank you.

Do we have any other questions?

We've already used the one as possible.

Richard Star.

I got you.

Yes, Council President.

Just from the standpoint of this ordinance, um, just clarification.

So when you talk about these capital improvement part of the budget or these plans, this is what it's taking place, which is 22 million dollars, obviously.

Um, that's on our our tablet.

It is basically an initiative of how we're going to now with the new program of carryover dollars that we utilized to be able to put the house up for this project to the check.

Through the chairman's that is correct.

Yes.

Alright, so right now, so we're able to take money from our carryover that we had in 2025, and we're putting those dollars into all these capital improvements that we have on the list of 2026.

Um the chairman counseling that that is correct.

That's the way the new way that we're proposing to fund capital projects.

Um, and then towards the end of the year it would be bonded out to replenish uh the general fund carry over.

All right.

And then one of the biggest things that that I get oftentimes happen um in my house that I live in, is that there's a rank, a power block, and I'm stuck in the garage.

I'm stuck in the garage because I can't get out due to how my building set up.

And for us in 2021, well, coming into 2022, we had 511 million dollars of offer funding.

2022, we had 48 million dollars of carryover dollars.

In 2023, we had 56 million dollars and a half dollars to carry over dollars.

2024, we had 61 million dollars of carryover dollars.

And 99, and then in 2025, we had roughly 89 to 90 million dollars in carryover dollars.

And we never thought about putting all power at one second to make sure people stay.

You know, one of the things that is sad to me is when I was at front of uh over the weekend, and when the power goes out for cleaning up power, a lot of the food for that patch.

But we never put up dollars for clean above power to make sure we got the infrastructure.

So I do understand um council how the council case you feel.

Every time it's sometime to do stuff for the people, you never got no dollars.

But every time is what everyone else wants to do, we can never do nothing.

So it's a shame to me to see all these carryover dollars each and every year, or we don't want to invest in the infrastructure of power, and now we're putting uh upgrades as far as ADA compliance for our building on hold.

Is that correct?

So the chair, are we really holding off on bringing our building up to code uh up to compliance with ADA standard?

What I am asking them to do is to come back to us for the more feasible plan.

Any council members had concerns about trying to fund the full seven million dollar bill back?

We do appreciate the ADA compliance part, but there are other components that we've been trying to get to see if that is actually a priority of council and right now.

Um a revised plan and still work with them on the uh revised plan.

Yeah, thank you, Council President for that clarification.

But when we say me and the council members don't want to talk to me about nothing, so I'm a council member because I nobody asked me, nobody gave my post, so I guess our bills doesn't matter.

And that's what we've got.

We had um we had uh these conversations multiple times in different chairs meetings, as well as there's been multiple conversations in the uh OCAP meetings, so there's been multiple conversations about this.

So um, if um nobody reached out to you directly, I'm not sure why that might happen, but I know that this has been a conversation that all the council has been out.

I mean, that's I mean, I understand it's just it just it's just okay.

Let me ask you this do you guys want the seven million dollar bill now?

Is that something I mean we could just come revisit this?

But I'll be honest with you, if I'm wrong, y'all tell me, but several council members have shared with me that they had concerns about that expenditure.

I mean, I understand what the council members have, but I I mean I never get a chance to express my concerns of anything, and it's like we then get to tell us the council wants this.

I can't tell if we all even talk to each other to be able to give it to everyone.

I mean, just talking to the majority, I guess that's all it takes, talking to the majority, and then that's the decision for the council.

I mean, better say it better suit.

That's the reason why I don't be voting on this budget because we don't ever get nothing for the neighborhoods, we don't ever get nothing for what the residents want, it's just whatever the majority wants, and that's how things work.

So I understand how things go, and I'm just councilman, I got counseling questions for ours.

Thanks, Chair.

I just want to add this conversation two quick things.

Uh one, I think I heard the answer.

We are not in violation of the Urban Disability Act as we currently are constructed, correct?

So we're the chair of the council.

That is correct.

Okay.

And then to the chair, I think it's really important what you pointed out that the seven million in this year's capital was phase one.

There was another seven million, I think, next year, and then another seven million.

And I think it adds up to almost 30 million for the total once you have all together.

So to the chair to the room, um, it's not a seven million ass, it's a 30 million dollar asking.

We're asking for a pause to reconsider how this money is spent over the course of a few years, um, not just one year uh 7 million one done.

So I think it's important for us to look at that.

Um, and if we're not in violation of the ADA, then I don't think we have a really uh pressing need to do this right now.

Um, but I think there are other uh priorities that we can take care of in this budget.

Um I think we should record the rest.

We can take out that seven million from the city hall and remote at the proposal and how much it's gonna cost, of course, the entire project.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Councilman Slide.

Uh thank you, and and I guess uh maybe follow the sword and say that the idea of amending to remove this for now uh originated with me.

I think that there's been some characterization within the media of it being a seven million dollar coffee shop.

There's a lot of misunderstandings about what is being proposed to Councilman Casey's question, what are the narrowly defined ADA improvements versus what is the creation of a new entrance lobby, a new security facility, and really a redesign of what is essentially the base of the city hall.

It's a very beautiful proposal that's been brought by the administration.

I think the question of Council Sar, you're pointing to the chair, is I think there are questions about the needs in other city facilities, and while we understand that city hall is important, most residents aren't engaging with the city by coming to city hall, they're doing so by going to a park or a rec center, and to that end, if this is an important priority of the mayor's administration, perhaps it would be more beneficial and transparent to the public to have that come as an independent presentation so we can have a presentation out is specifically, not as we are trying to couple it with improvements to install the EV charger in a city parking lot or to fix parks and do any of the other litany of uh recreation and facility improvements that are covered across these two ordinances.

Given the scale and the notoriety of this one, I have suggested that by removing this is not to put the project into the grade as much as to recognize that it might be worthy on its own conversation and uh to the council president if I'm interpreting the director correctly.

It sounds like the administration that is uh preparing that individual legislation come forward for that specific conversation, which I think would be fruitful.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And that's pretty much all we try to do is just to say we don't put a call so that we can actually understand it better and go from there.

Councilman Connell will Icho Councilman Sterm is here.

Um Council President.

Nobody ever ever talked with me about this code.

I like looking at the project so I read it, and I'm trying to find out what's going on with it, and I need to know.

No one never gone for my anniversary, but I still could someone could include me into it.

You know, because it means a lot.

Now, this isn't it, and I respect Councilmember Hars said that we're not out of compliance.

However, we are leaders, and we want to leave the charge with ADA.

We want to make sure that it's a disability.

So people look around as leaders.

Leaders must be able to see around corners.

Leaders must be able to see around the corners.

So we set this out in ADA, and um this is a pressing need also.

It's a pressing need for me.

As a matter of fact, I would try to push this for years.

Trying to push this for years, dealing with people with disabilities.

I just talked about creating with uh uh councilman Brian Casey, a committee for people with disabilities.

This means a lot to us certain people uh this coin counseling.

So we're like to see this go of the uh or the coffee shop.

I want to see what's going on, and I'm not even saying is it fair to say coffee shop?

Because in the scope, it might be other things in there as well.

So I I want to see that thank you very much.

Thank you.

Um councilman policy.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman, and I um I understand there was a great deal of debate discussion on these two pieces of legislation, which are very important.

I mean, there's no doubt that uh we have uh many challenges that are before us as pertaining to make city deRosa uh very confident director his staff is a very popular as well.

Um I do support though the withholding of the money as it retains to City Hall renovation until there's further discussion and explanation on them.

I'd like to also further know through the chair to the director since 2020, um, how much we have spent on city hall in general as it pertains to renovation or improvements.

I I ask that and then I'll do respect because every time I walk into my office and I look at the bungee court holding my door together, um I keep asking myself, we keep we pour a lot of resources, we've been pouring a lot of money in the city hall, um, but we still have ongoing issues.

We we know we have to button up the exterior of the building.

That's a given uh because of its age.

This is historic landmark, and we've got to maintain the people's house.

But I think a lot of us have been questioning um some of the what I want to call the frills and some of the things that are being advocated and implemented at City Hall as it pertains to are they really uh important for the city in light of all the challenges that we have at our rec centers or city parks and playgrounds, etc.

etc.

So again, I'm respectfully asked to the chair to the director uh to the administration since 2020.

How much actual capital dollars um have we poured into Cleveland City Hall right here, 601 Lakeside Avenue.

The other thing I wanted to address is um ordinance number um 234 uh with regard to the line item with chairman monopolies for one point one eight four million dollars for the highland golf course.

I repeatedly set at this table that continuing to subsidize and pour money into Highland Golf Course is a tremendous mistake and this council and this administration um is doing.

Um the proof is in the pudding.

If you read the expose that was in Cleveland.com about the golf course, the operation spoke for itself.

Uh we should not be in the golf course business.

Again, we keep hearing from the administration concerns about the one million dollars less, uh less than one million dollars that we subsidize per airport with, which again, we don't subsidize for the general fund, comes out of the uh port control through the um in connection to the its linkage to uh Hopkins International Airport, but here again is another two million general the general operating and uh in the general budget and now in restricted uh funds here two million dollars for the golf course, and yet we can't get parts fixed, we can't get recreation centers fixed.

This I want to say this again, this continues to be a major mistake on behalf of the administration and on behalf of council for supporting it.

So, Mr.

Chairman, I will move that we strike in 234.

I'll make a motion that we strike the 1.184 million from um this line item uh from this piece of legislation and direct it to Cleveland public power for emergency repairs to the grid and system and make that motion.

You got a motion on the floor and councilman star has seconded.

I'll start um just by saying once again the administration is supposed to be coming to us with a comprehensive plan around what are the needs, not of the grid, but of the CPP infrastructure.

Um I would strongly request and suggest that we actually see what that plan looks like before we move to do that.

I will tell you that many of the council members on the southeast side, just like we support the west side market, just like we support other amenities in the city of Cleveland, um, this is something that is a very important staple to a lot of people on the on the uh southeast part of town.

Now I will tell you this.

I'm open if Metro Parks or somebody else might want to come in and do this, but I will tell you that that revenue right now and the new amendment, the new improvements that they made to it is starting to generate revenue, which is why we absolutely were trying to get into the golf course so that they can operate it without us having to subsidize it.

So I would um strongly urge my colleagues to still allow that 1.4 million dollar investment because once again that golf course is turning around and it is beginning to be a profit maker.

And I know that many of my colleagues on the uh Southeast side um feel the same.

Director and Mr.

Mr.

DeRosa.

Through the journey of the committee, so um this raises some legal concerns because putting money in the CPP using potential bond money is not invented by bond council and the specific uses the projects in the CID has.

So there are questions about whether this would even be legal should be one pass it.

Mr.

Jetta.

They are an enterprise fund.

They issue revenue bonds.

And right now, if you open a door funding the general obligation debt or the general fund, I mean that could open a door that doesn't have.

So I think there's got to be more discussion funding CPP with non-revenue bonds issued by CPP.

I mean, not saying that we don't want to do it as you know, a city, but I think there needs to be real induct discussion because it can open the door that we never close.

Um if you have to do lots and lots of repairs there, I mean it could really impact the general fund and city services.

I would really caution right now, jumping to add to CPP from this uh until there's a broader discussion across the board with council and the administration and law and everyone that needs to have this council.

Mr.

Chairman, um both the finance director and to Mr.

Gen File.

I'm very much aware that an enterprise fund cannot support the general fund.

I'm very much aware of that.

But it but you are aware as well that the general funds we can support an enterprise.

You know that we've done that in the past.

Right.

Okay.

So you heard the concerns expressed at the table.

Um this weekend I had a power outage in my work, CPP power outage again.

My colleagues and Councilman Kinesey uh to his defense, he's repeatedly said to the administration, something has to be something has to be with regard to the grid.

The reliability of the system that's been stated during the budget hearings for two years in a row, it's been stated at the utilities committee again.

So you know I don't see what the issue is here.

It would go to CPP for improvements.

So through the jury councilman.

We own it.

Last time I looked, we owned CPP.

So through the councilman, you're not just talking about general fund dollars, you're talking about dollars that we're gonna go out and bond out for that.

Which all of these projects need to be vetted by bond council and by our legal team to make sure that we can actually go out and borrow for those specific projects.

Otherwise, we could be in danger of violating um, well, you have you have enough talented people around you that if once we pass this amendment when we pass the legislation, that there's something uh that you we it could come back that we could amend.

We could always amend, like we do all the time around the state, amend legislation.

Okay.

Yes, we can we could we could supplement enterprise funds as well against that.

I agree with just about everything you said.

I just I'm just asking that we have a global conversation about the legalities before we can add money to I'm not adding, I'm making an amendment that we to remove one light item and to include another.

And I made a motion and it was seconded.

Okay, well, I think so.

There's been an amendment move the second council, yes, uh Mr.

Chairman of the Councilman.

Um so the the line that you're starting is uh related recreation bonds, um public power would not uh fall under that category, even if we chose to fund it.

Um I would like to emphasize that city council put a spend restriction on all of this legislation as well.

So to add money for CPP in an appropriate piece of legislation would also have that requirement.

So to add money for CPP in an appropriate piece of legislation would also have that requirement, and we have no idea how they would spend a million dollars at this point, so we would need a plan from CPP on how they would want to spend it.

Um further, I'd like to say that um the issue with funding CPP, in my opinion from the general fund is also a lot of equity because you would have non-rate payers supporting uh a CPP system without uh a full uh plan coming before the council and the administration for review determined councilman.

I would also want CPD to be involved in these folks, and we shouldn't they use those dollars.

Well, we just you know councilman, I mean I would just just chime in and I let me say this.

I understand everybody's sense of urgency on CPP.

And I too have been working with councilman Casey to try to get a comprehensive plan.

I really would urge us before we move to do anything with CPP to really bring them into Councilman Casey's committee and have a thorough conversation about this because it's my understanding that um a small sum will not even test the surface of some of the challenges that we have with that.

So that's why I want to really be um you know cognizant of how we look at that.

Mr.

Sherman, maybe speak to the pumphouse improvements at the uh golf course, please.

Yeah, to the to the committee members uh through the council president.

Um this is just to say that there is a fledging um foundation that's now running uh the golf course, and they're now gonna be in their third year of uh operation this year.

The improvements specifically in this year's budget are to redo an antiquated pump house and pump system that feeds the uh irrigation system for the entire 36-hole golf course.

So they've been cobbling it together for years and years, and now we need to really uh address the pump house issue and the infrastructure within it.

So it is an infrastructure uh responsibility of the city, not the foundation to do that uh work.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Mr.

Chairman, I'm gonna limit this.

And then there's a motion, something called the roll up.

We've been subsidizing that golf course as long as I've been here.

I want to state that for the record.

We have subsidized that golf course as long as I've been.

And what do our citizens or what are our folks like they want the parks and playgrounds or rec centers maintain?

So I understand the position of the administration.

Should have the golf course.

We should gain the metro parts a long time ago.

They don't subsidize any of their golf courses.

They notify me, they don't subsidize not a one of their golf courses.

They're all profitable because the way they're run.

And the way we have run golf courses, like we've run a lot of stuff, we run them into the ground, but we do not operate them efficiently or effectively.

And we have paid a severe price for it.

So at the end of the day, it is what it is.

I'm quote frozen, uh quote with Frank Jackson, which is a scary thought here.

Um the the batter is we gotta we should not be in a golf course business.

We should be in a recreation business for our children and our families and uh I'll leave it at that for you.

I made a motion for the second Mr.

Jim.

All right, so um there's been a discussion.

Yeah, through the chair, I just want to make sure I understand.

Uh chair, if we ever um funded enterprise, have we ever directed enterprise?

Are we ever directed funds to an enterprise using capital improvement project bond?

Or do we always do separate bonds for utility investment?

Mr.

Jit.

Do the chair of the comfort?

I don't believe so.

I mean, we do it for the small ones, but you have an utility that's competing against a for-profit entity.

So I mean there's a lot of complexities with CPP because they are competing in the open market against a different utility provider.

That's why I just wanted to make sure that we properly vet this entire thing before we do this.

I'm not saying we can't do it once we vent it properly.

I'm just saying I'm concerned about just plugging that in right now.

Okay, but through the chair also, because we're doing a different bond spending strategy this year, we're spending general fund up front and then bond later on to reimbursed ourselves.

So through the chair, would the councilman's proposal be more legally palatable if it was just a removable money for period, and that might have stage the general fund.

If they want to draw a draft up a different piece of legislation later to correct it for CPP, they can do that.

I think that makes sense because also there were questions about if you're adding money to the CTP, whether that's even relevant to the type of uh so then Mr.

Chair, you've got to that.

I also am not a big fan of uh the Highland Golf Course.

Um I think it's funny that it's considered citywide on the war, it's not even in the city.

But I do understand that it's a big holistic issue, and I don't think we should be addressing it, a bond fund issue on uh Monday afternoon when we were on uh not expecting to have a discussion about the fake island golf course today.

I think the administration and the council should come up with a holistic plan for having all course and all the analogy broker time to decide we're not running on dial.

Um so uh Mr.

Chair will vote on the proposed thank you.

We want to actually call the road if we could discussion on it.

Yes, council.

Yes, I'm gonna just put off the record.

Um we're talking about making this amendment and using some of these bond dollars or some of these dollars to support the efforts of people.

Well, if you look at the record in the past, we've done this for less time marketing.

So now we're acting like we can't do this because we're not allowed to less high market over in time, but it's allowed to get there's confusion.

Uh did you guys want to explain that to the council members?

Uh on that on that uh I'll put you down, Council Members.

Yeah.

To the chair consultation.

I think the difference here is CPP's funded through revenue bonds.

So the generate revenue revenue.

Revenue bonds.

So they generate revenue.

Doesn't have the full faith of credit of the city of Cleveland.

It's only that enterprise.

Uh whereas the uh Westside market has gotten geobonds.

We've never had revenue bonds.

And if you if you start to funding an entity that issues revenue bonds, there can be questions in the future.

Like you may be, it may start to commit you permanently, and I'm not saying we don't want to be committed permanently.

I just think we need a further discussion, the talk about CPP and how to fix it.

Uh but they issue revenue bonds.

That's the major difference between a CPP, water, airports, and I mean all the utilities and airports issue revenue bonds.

Whereas like the smaller enterprise funds like Westside Market or the golf course is that geo sanitaries and sanitaries have gotten geo parking.

Okay, um just it's always I really feel like yes, council got the roads about what we want to do.

Because I trust obviously Mr.

Gentile and everything, but their time comes to these dollars, and it's taxpayer dollars, and we want to do something, it's so much restrictions.

We always get up here, we always talk about what the council priority is, and it's clearly continues to show that we don't have high ways.

A few of us want to do stuff for neighborhoods and residents, and a few of us just want to sit in the water administration, not just talking.

But we call it all this presentation, right?

All right.

Um we talking about the amendment that's been on from the table, or we just have a discussion.

We're voting on the end, we're having a discussion on the amendment that councilman for Messi has offered regarding the pump station and the sprinkler systems for the doctors.

You know, for the lack of a better term or lack of better words, this is becoming a hot mess.

This is this whole process becoming a hot mess.

Listen, we are we are chopping up our CIP plans.

We don't we don't administer, we don't hire, we don't hire this body doesn't body doesn't manage.

We are we're gonna come up with 14 different plans for the CIP.

We're gonna come up with all of these different plans to manage our city and our city assets.

It's not gonna work.

We need to um we need to stick to our process.

We need to let the professionals be professionals and give us advice on what we should do, and we should analyze it.

We want to be informed.

This body wants to be informed, this body wants to be um uh enlightened, we want to understand what's going on, but we cannot manage this process.

I mean, we got we if if we if we have all the managers on this side of the table and all the managers on that side of the table, who's gonna do the work?

We we have to uh like politics uh eloquently said over and over again that we don't hire, we don't fire, we don't manage, and we uh and now we're trying to manipulate this whole process.

This is present county as a number.

Thank you.

All right, we're gonna call the role under the chair on the future.

Yeah, it's just a point of clarification.

The 1.8 million uh line item is part, it's part of this ordinance and file file number C.

And so we can't just try out 1.8 million.

We have to do that by by substituting your file.

D that's the mechanics, how this report for ordinance does not have is not listed, which mine arguments by virtue of a file.

So the method would be to substitute new file.

Is Mr.

Chairman's 1.18 million, not point one, not 1.8 million, 1.18.

All right, 1.184.

So then we so then councilman has an amendment on the floor that has been second.

And we're in discussion.

Are you saying that we have to send the amendment or do we have to vote to let that amendment go?

The only way you can strike out the 1.18 million is by putting in a new file in the description.

So we're councilman.

The only way we can do that is they pull it out a new file.

Um I'm just and I would move that we do that.

So councilman has moved, and there's uh is their second to pull out that file and add a new file.

Yes, yes.

And councilman star is seconded.

Okay, we had discussion over this, so the prerogative of the chair, we're gonna do a roll call vote.

Madam Clerk, please call the roll.

No.

No.

No.

No.

No.

Yes.

Slide?

No.

Stop.

Yes.

And now we'll make a vote.

No, uh, two yet.

Okay, therefore, the amendment does not carry.

We're going back to the original legislation.

Seeing no other questions, we've had discussion, and we've also talked about ordinance number 232-2026 as amended, and ordinance number 234-2026 as amended, seeing all the discussion, both of those as amended stand approved.

And we will be talking with you guys about um uh following up on what we want to do as far as the uh garden level.

I'm gonna turn it over for the last few pieces to Chairman Santana.

I have to go take care of the family issues.

We have one number 309.

Oh, you have one more capital.

Okay, okay.

All right, okay.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

So next up we have ordinance number 309-2026 by council member bishops, Hantana Griffin by departmental request, and emergency ordinance determining the method of making the public improvement of repairing, constructing, or installing roadways, bus cats, sidewalks, driveway, aprons, curbs, brick streets, ADA compliant, curb ramps, minor bridge repairs, and ashbot resurfacing and ascot crack seeding, authorizing director of capital projects to enter into one or more public improvement requirements, contracts for making of the improvement, authorizing director to apply for and accept any gifts or grants and authorizing any agreements for a period not to exceed two years.

Director.

Um Madam Chairperson, so this is um our two-year requirements contract for roadway projects.

Umsky to my right as manager of engineering and construction, he's gonna say a few words about this ordinance.

Thank you, Director.

The contracts that we utilize to do asphalt concrete uh bus pass ADA ramps command side walking.

It's a toolbox, and that two boxes number of line items because that will put together a task order to get something done.

Uh we've got to do the work that the council member might have to have done with cash with these contracts.

Any questions?

Do you want to add anything to the uh just Madam Chairman?

This um our current contract expires in the fall, so we're getting legislative authority now so that we can bid it out in plenty of time so that it's in place before the current contract expires.

Got it.

Um councilman Palenzick.

Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chairperson to the director.

Who and Mrs.

Wotowski?

Who had the contract last year for um the 50-50 sidewalk program?

To the chair to the councilman, I believe that was burden on this.

I go back and double check, that's why I likewise.

So they had it for the entire city.

Oh, it's all contracts.

I was asking that TVS, I'm sorry.

50-50.

5050 is where small contractors last year.

They're under 50,000 contracts.

Okay, so they were all under 50.

Yes, we were working to give smaller businesses the opportunity to come to the city.

Which is which is commendable.

But so if you could provide to us a list of those contractors who worked on the 50-50 program last year and a dollar amount associated with that.

And were they given regions or areas of the city?

When we moved the contracts, I'm sorry, did the chair to the councilman?

Yes, when we did the projects, I think we did seven contracts.

So that 50,000 these 350,000.

We assign different board areas that they would then be focused on.

Okay.

So I'd like again, madam chairperson.

I'd like to get the list of the contractors.

The dollar amount they were paid, and then the areas that they worked, so I could get a better understanding of how effective the program was or not.

And then on that point, are you reviewing to the director how effective it was and the quality of work?

Uh Mr.

Sharon, yes.

So this was the second year that we tried the small contracts.

The first year, um, if council recalls it was not successful because we really didn't focus enough on what we require of them before we awarded the contracts.

We worked through our department of OEO and they suggested firms and we looked at who was who is registered.

The second year we were better with our requirements.

Um so most of them did did well, that some did not.

Um this year we're changing our process for the 50-50, so that we're gonna put out um uh we're gonna put it out to bid, and there will be some larger ones to because the goal is to have a pipeline to grow.

Yes, and then there'll be some that will still be at the $50,000 uh range.

The goal is that you know you can hire staff, you can buy equipment and move your way up.

So we think we're getting better each year, but uh I I will acknowledge that it is um it is uh as has been trying to the residents who did not get a good contractor, um, and it took a lot of time with our staff to um to manage those small contractors.

I appreciate those comments because I have raised I have serious concerns about some of the work that was done.

So give me that information and then I'll talk into you about some of the locations I have concerns about.

Thank you, madam chair for thank you.

Any other questions from my colleagues?

So this was heard in municipal services.

I know council membership is not here, but based on the signatures, seems like it passes.

So here are no other questions.

Ordinance number 309-2026 has been approved.

Please sign that.

Thank you.

Thank you, Director.

I guess we'll have to reschedule our problem.

Would you be able to take it?

Okay.

Do you want to take this project?

Okay.

Thank you.

Are you gonna need me?

You didn't sign it.

Okay, there we go.

We'll make a question.

All right.

Ordinance ordinance 131 2026 by council is written by departmental request, emergency ordinance authorizing declaration of official intent under U.S.

Treasury regulation with respect to reimbursements from note and bond proceeds of temporary advances made or payments prior to this and related tax.

So uh through the chair to the committee, so this is legislation to allow the director of finance, namely me to sign off on uh IRS forms and basically inform the IRS that we are going to a um of spending from the general fund and then reimbursing the taxes and Fed.

This is a requirement that we inform of the IRS within 60 days of any expenditure that we're doing this.

Essentially, it's a form that was put in with the uh legislation that I would fill out for every single project as a year.

Uh the plan would be for me to fill this out as we near uh contract execution uh and submit this to the IRS with a copy of the council so that you all would have the transparency to see what we're actually signing off on and the um the contracts that we're executing.

So um bond council is also here should there be any questions, but essentially this is just for authorization for me to sign this one to submit council parts.

Is this something new, Director?

So through the chair to the council, yes, because this is a new system we're going to.

Usually we have a bond ordinance already passed, which gives us the um uh the authorization to go out and borrow for those projects since we don't have that and we're gonna do the bond legislation in the year, the our rest requirements eastern.

Because um I that's what I'm saying, at least some because I'm ever recalled doing that in the past.

Okay.

There you go.

Thank you through the chair to the council.

I can explain that.

Um the IRS requires these forms to be filled out and attached to your tax documents when you do a bond issue in order to use those bond proceeds to reimburse funds that have fronted money for a capital project.

Okay.

In the past, because you've always passed your bond ordinances prior to doing your projects and signing your contracts, you typically didn't do make any expenditures until after the bond ordinances were passed.

That bond ordinance actually satisfied the IRS's requirements for a declaration, so you didn't need a subsequent type of form.

Okay.

So then if the funds are not properly spent, then the director wears the orange jumpsuit and the rubber shoes, right?

Nobody in council, as I want to make sure of that.

Okay.

That's right.

Okay.

Gentil Gentile.

He's already passing the buck over to the director.

Okay, thank you.

Yeah, right.

Right, right.

Are there any other questions on ordinance 131 2021?

Councilman Harshman amendment.

Mr.

Chair, um, I guess we would amend ordinance 131-2026.

Insert a new section three.

Um copy of each notice of declaration of intent filed with compliance of the IRS to the council and finance and municipal services and properties, chair, and we number section three to section four.

Thank you.

Okay, I was seeing good.

I was giving it.

Uh the amendment is to insert a new section three, which says copy of each notice of declaration of intent filed with compliance of the IRS of council and finance and municipal services and popular higher.

And then renumber section three and four.

So essentially notify clerk and chair uh bishop when uh the attendance filed, and so that we are aware of our face one of those.

Second uh hearing second, all in favor.

Aye, aye.

Any opposed?

Yeah, okay.

Uh please mark one opposition, House will start.

Um are there any further questions on ordinance one thirty-one twenty twenty-six?

Hearing none, uh this evening.

Please sign on.

Our five feasal legislation is ordinance 516 2026, authorizing the director of finance to enter into one or more contracts with one or more insurance carriers to procure various types of concrete types of insurance coverage, need to be continuous coverage for municipal operations, including policy renewals, adjustments, and other related services for a period of three years with two under options to renew exercisable by the director of finance.

And uh before I turn it over to the councilman, I believe councilman Harsh is coming forward with amendments to take this.

Alright, so there's uh two amendments in section two at the end, insert quote director of finance or as in the as appropriate shall provide the notice of council, whatever any such purchases made out of this session, which notice shall do the details of any such block or purchases.

Okay.

Uh second amendment uh strike section three, its entirety to serve a new section three or three as follows.

Uh the total aggregate costs per year of any and all contracts authorized by this ordinance, whether considered individually or closely, shall not exceed 1,200,000 annually and will be paid from fund number 01-1513-6350, and any other funds approved by the director of finance, provided however the notice of such other funds shall be provided with council.

And any other funds approved by the director of finance, provided, however, notice of such other funds shall be provided with the board of council.

RDF 0513 or L'Opos is successful vote.

Thank you.

There's an amendment that we're second.

I'll second.

All right.

Is there any discussion on the amendment?

All in favor?

I host.

Yeah.

All right.

So discussion on ordinance 516 2026 as amended.

Are we moving away from that system?

So through the chair to the committee, just generally overall, what this legislation would do is basically centralized how we buy insurance.

Council passed legislation, I believe it was late last year to allow us to buy a broker to go out and test the marketplace.

And I just want to be clear, this is insurance on things like infrastructure around the city, things like cyber security against fraud and criminal activity.

It does not include health insurance.

So I just want to make that very clear.

And essentially what this would do is centralize our insurance effort.

So right now, if if we need something insured that's remote parks, they go out and look for our policy.

So we're centralizing this within the risk division, and we have Commissioner Romero from the risk division here.

And basically allows the director of finance to enter into these insurance contracts on behalf of the city.

So to the chair.

Then we segued, and I know the council was involved when we went out and we uh purchased and are installing a citywide software program for risk management that the city has never had.

So that's part of that centralization.

Now we're we're knowing exactly where our liabilities and our assets lie.

Exactly.

And when you uh mentioned a point about the self-insurance, we do certain levels, so we're all over the place.

We're we're insured in one area, the other areas um where we transfer risk.

So it um because the definite true definition in the industry of self-insurance is you have to have a pool of money to draw from that.

And so uh we accept certain limits of la of risk and liability.

What this is gonna help us do is make sure, like for example, uh Huntington Bank Field, that we're responsible for anywhere from three to five years.

We're gonna be able to make sure that the continuum as an asset of ours, we're still gonna be able to uh make sure that it's insured.

And that's usually like a six and a quarter for the last uh three years has been in that neighborhood.

So that and other areas that we're getting, there's things like drone liability.

There's so many different things in the market that are available that we have to look at and make sure we have uh we're protected and we're not gonna have a nuclear option of one department, one section of the city being at risk.

Um there any other questions on ordinance 51626?

Hearing none, uh ordinance five sixteen twenty-six as amended is approved and will be for tonight.

That would include uh today's finance equity and inclusion committee thing.

Thank you.

First lecture.