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On October 22, 2026, the Cleveland City Council Operations Committee held a public hearing to discuss ethics in government, focusing on the distinction between helping constituents and bribery. The hearing featured expert testimony from four professors and included remarks from council members. No legislation was considered, and no votes were taken.
Order, Madam Chair, could you call the roll? Could you call the roll? Here. Here. Okay. Thank you. Great. So thank you everybody for attending today. We are not discussing any legislation, and there will be no votes called from members. We are what we are doing today is having a public discussion about ethics in government. As most folks know. By the way, I'm just gonna set the table and run through how this all works, okay? Um as most people know, Cleveland is one of the poorest cities in America. We have roughly a 28% poverty rate, um, which is of over 100,000 people living in poverty. Um anyone who's ever lived in poverty can attest that the impacts uh on a person are dire. Uh it does alter your sense of self-worth, it lessens your worldview because there are aspects of society you simply can't afford to access. Uh you know, having lived in a trailer park as a kid and uh filing uh tax returns for about a dozen years under 14,000, I can attest firsthand to the impact that poverty has on a person. Um it is something you can truly feel. And the impacts of generational poverty in America are still being studied, but we know the outcome is not good. Uh it's a very common desire and possibly even a responsibility of elected officials to lessen or alleviate the effects of poverty. And you can sit down here with us if you'd like. Okay. It is uh uh uh it is a desire for a lot of elected officials to lessen or alleviate the impacts of poverty, and one popular way on a local level to do this is with direct financial aid, often in the forms of a food card. A25 or $50 Dave's card, for example. Um Australian ethicist Peter Singer is well known for promoting the idea, the ethical framework that reducing suffering is a good thing. Um is actually in fact one of the best good things you can do. And so surely for somebody with very little money, a $50 food card can lessen their suffering on some level for some time at least. It's also worth noting that nearly every religious tradition on earth promotes charity and kindness uh to the poor as a good thing. In fact, it's a driving motivation for many people when they consider running for public office in the first place. So in the other corner is a long-running history in America of political corruption. Uh politicians use their power to access public funds and spend them in ways that advance their political careers, um, benefiting those close to them, or in some examples, just straight up bribing voters. Uh, this history is so well understood in the U.S. that uh many of the 90 million people who never ever vote will tell you it's because quote unquote they're all crooks. Right. The general public's inability or unwillingness to trust government is rooted in well-documented cases of public corruption. Uh the law department at City Hall has long been concerned about gift cards, should they appear too close to bribery or corruption in the public eyes. Um and it cannot be forgotten, honestly, that uh three members of this body have been sentenced to prison just this century, and two of them were for misallocation of public funds. Uh so the consequences for us are very real. And while we have conversations about this at City Hall all the time, we rarely have them publicly. Um, and nor would I expect this subject to get a lot of interest unless it does turn into a court case. Uh but then something rather incredible happened on September 9th of this year. The sitting president of the United States on national television, I think he was in Dallas, um, promised every American $5,000 from the federal government if the Republican Party wins in November. Um and before anybody could say that this was a misstep or misquote or an unintentional statement, Bernie Moreno, who is actually the senior senator from Ohio, promised that evening to draft the legislation ensuring that those checks would go out. It's doubling down immediately before the day was even over. In fact, uh payments to roughly 70,000 Ohioans have actually already been paid for another reason, uh something to do with uh Medic uh Obamacare, but uh from Trump for a different reason. And uh the point is that money from the federal government is being mailed to voters right now with an active and consequential election underway. Uh the two most common statements I heard about this are uh how is it legal and how can I get mine?