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Cleveland City Council Public Hearing on Ethics in Government - October 22, 2026

City Council Meetings — Thursday, October 22, 2026
BodyCleveland, Ohio
SessionCity Council Meetings
DateThursday, October 22, 2026
StatusFILED
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Speaker numbers apply only to this recording.

Speaker 1

0:00

Order, Madam Chair, could you call the roll?

Unassigned speaker

0:08

Could

Speaker 1

0:09

you call the roll?

0:12

Here.

Speaker 2

0:15

Here.

Speaker 1

0:17

Okay.

0:18

Thank you.

0:20

Great.

0:20

So thank you everybody for attending today.

0:23

We are not discussing any legislation, and there will be no votes called from members.

0:28

We are what we are doing today is having a public discussion about ethics in government.

0:33

As most folks know.

0:36

By the way, I'm just gonna set the table and run through how this all works, okay?

0:40

Um as most people know, Cleveland is one of the poorest cities in America.

0:44

We have roughly a 28% poverty rate, um, which is of over 100,000 people living in poverty.

0:49

Um anyone who's ever lived in poverty can attest that the impacts uh on a person are dire.

0:54

Uh it does alter your sense of self-worth, it lessens your worldview because there are aspects of society you simply can't afford to access.

1:01

Uh you know, having lived in a trailer park as a kid and uh filing uh tax returns for about a dozen years under 14,000, I can attest firsthand to the impact that poverty has on a person.

1:12

Um it is something you can truly feel.

1:15

And the impacts of generational poverty in America are still being studied, but we know the outcome is not good.

1:20

Uh it's a very common desire and possibly even a responsibility of elected officials to lessen or alleviate the effects of poverty.

1:28

And you can sit down here with us if you'd like.

1:30

Okay.

1:31

It is uh uh uh it is a desire for a lot of elected officials to lessen or alleviate the impacts of poverty, and one popular way on a local level to do this is with direct financial aid, often in the forms of a food card.

1:43

A25 or $50 Dave's card, for example.

1:46

Um Australian ethicist Peter Singer is well known for promoting the idea, the ethical framework that reducing suffering is a good thing.

1:54

Um is actually in fact one of the best good things you can do.

1:57

And so surely for somebody with very little money, a $50 food card can lessen their suffering on some level for some time at least.

2:04

It's also worth noting that nearly every religious tradition on earth promotes charity and kindness uh to the poor as a good thing.

2:11

In fact, it's a driving motivation for many people when they consider running for public office in the first place.

2:17

So in the other corner is a long-running history in America of political corruption.

2:21

Uh politicians use their power to access public funds and spend them in ways that advance their political careers, um, benefiting those close to them, or in some examples, just straight up bribing voters.

2:32

Uh, this history is so well understood in the U.S.

2:35

that uh many of the 90 million people who never ever vote will tell you it's because quote unquote they're all crooks.

Unassigned speaker

2:41

Right.

Speaker 1

2:42

The general public's inability or unwillingness to trust government is rooted in well-documented cases of public corruption.

2:48

Uh the law department at City Hall has long been concerned about gift cards, should they appear too close to bribery or corruption in the public eyes.

2:55

Um and it cannot be forgotten, honestly, that uh three members of this body have been sentenced to prison just this century, and two of them were for misallocation of public funds.

Unassigned speaker

3:03

Uh

Speaker 1

3:03

so the consequences for us are very real.

3:06

And while we have conversations about this at City Hall all the time, we rarely have them publicly.

3:12

Um, and nor would I expect this subject to get a lot of interest unless it does turn into a court case.

3:16

Uh but then something rather incredible happened on September 9th of this year.

3:20

The sitting president of the United States on national television, I think he was in Dallas, um, promised every American $5,000 from the federal government if the Republican Party wins in November.

3:30

Um and before anybody could say that this was a misstep or misquote or an unintentional statement, Bernie Moreno, who is actually the senior senator from Ohio, promised that evening to draft the legislation ensuring that those checks would go out.

3:45

It's doubling down immediately before the day was even over.

3:47

In fact, uh payments to roughly 70,000 Ohioans have actually already been paid for another reason, uh something to do with uh Medic uh Obamacare, but uh from Trump for a different reason.

3:59

And uh the point is that money from the federal government is being mailed to voters right now with an active and consequential election underway.

4:05

Uh the two most common statements I heard about this are uh how is it legal and how can I get

Unassigned speaker

4:10

mine?

Unassigned speaker

4:12

Uh

Speaker 1

4:12

so the question before us is

Unassigned speaker

4:14

this.

Speaker 1

4:15

When are politicians helping people and when are we bribing

Unassigned speaker

4:19

them?

Speaker 1

4:20

Clearly, the Constitution requires us to provide for the general welfare.

4:24

Uh but we also clearly frown upon political corruption.

4:27

So, what is the difference between helping a person and buying their favor?

Unassigned speaker

4:30

Uh

Speaker 1

4:30

as a follow-up to that question, if we are to identify the difference, uh is it the legislative branch's job to elect guardrails to prevent abuse of public coffers, or is it the job of the executive branch via law enforcement to monitor our behavior and let a court and the uh judge in the judicial branch settle it if there is a a concern?

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Moral Claims█████████████████████21%
Public Health Awareness█████████████████████21%
Public Engagement███████████████15%
Ethics in Government█████████████13%
Public Safety███████████11%
Ethical Decision Making████████8%
Racial Equity███████7%
Procedural████4%
Summary of Proceedings

Cleveland City Council Public Hearing on Ethics in Government - October 22, 2026

On October 22, 2026, the Cleveland City Council Operations Committee held a public hearing to discuss ethics in government, focusing on the distinction between helping constituents and bribery. The hearing featured expert testimony from four professors and included remarks from council members. No legislation was considered, and no votes were taken.

Discussion Items

  • Opening Remarks (Councilman Chris Harsh, Chair): Harsh set the context by noting Cleveland's 28% poverty rate (over 100,000 people) and the ethical tension between alleviating suffering and avoiding political corruption. He referenced a recent promise by President Trump (Sept. 9, 2026) to give $5,000 to every American if the Republican Party wins, and Ohio Senator Bernie Moreno's pledge to draft legislation, as a national example raising the question: when is helping a bribe? He introduced four experts: Professor Rabinovich Fox (Case Western, history), Professor Kelly Coble (Baldwin Wallace, ethics), Professor Abigail Moncrief (CSU Law, law/policy), and Professor Jeremy Bendick-Keemer (Case Western, philosophy).
  • Professor Rabinovich Fox – History of Corruption: She discussed how corruption is ingrained in U.S. government, from George Washington buying alcohol for votes (1758, $8,000 today) to the spoils system and Tammany Hall. The Pendleton Act (1883) reformed federal civil service, but local governments remained vulnerable. She argued that corruption can be curtailed through transparent, independent systems based on clear rules and public oversight.
  • Professor Kelly Coble – Ethical Distinction (Helping vs. Buying Votes): Coble applied Kantian deontology to the gift card issue. He argued that helping constituents is not equivalent to buying votes, even if re-election is a motive. The key is a transparent process: in Cleveland, council members allocate funds, but the Department of Community Development contracts nonprofits to distribute cards. Problems from the June 2025 Auditor's letter (1,500 missing/incomplete eligibility forms, 88 cards to out-of-Cleveland addresses, and staff distributing cards) reflect process failures, not corruption. He suggested better communication and proportionate safeguards to avoid the appearance of impropriety.
  • Professor Abigail Moncrief – Legal Perspectives: Moncrief (utilitarian) explained that federal and state laws (18 USC §597, Ohio Rev. Code §3599.01) prohibit exchanging money for votes, but enforcement is difficult because motivation (public policy vs. personal gain) is subjective. She noted that prosecuting bribery is rare, and recent presidential immunity expansions make it harder. She argued that food card programs are likely legal and that law departments often overreach to avoid the appearance of impropriety. She emphasized that all three branches must cooperate for law to be effective, and ultimately voters must decide.
  • Professor Jeremy Bendick-Keemer – Ethics and Democratic Trust: He urged a focus on the public good and dignity of citizens. He argued that ethical discretion requires clear intention toward public good and raising citizens to a level where they can participate in governance. He warned that the current national climate of cynicism undermines trust, and recommended that council members tell the story of their work to build trust, including acknowledging systemic racism and historical injustices.
  • Council President Blaine Griffin: He stressed that council members are closest to constituents and need discretionary dollars to address unique ward needs (e.g., speed tables, cameras, the Myers supermarket). He asked: "Who is government supposed to serve?" and questioned whether council-set rules are sufficient. Professors responded that government should serve everyone, with priority to those in need (utilitarian/Rawlsian views) and that rules need to be clear and trustworthy.
  • Councilman Dean Palencick (14 terms): He highlighted the equity fund he created 26 years ago (now $1 million per ward) and regretted the lack of documentation. He noted skyrocketing constituent needs (roofs, hot water tanks, food) and criticized insufficient enforcement of existing laws (health, building codes). He agreed that most council members act ethically.
  • Councilman Conwell: He argued that gift cards are no different from ribbon cuttings or championing projects—all are part of council members' jobs. He accused critics of dehumanizing African American communities, citing historical racism (e.g., Woodrow Wilson firing Black civil servants after the Pendleton Act). Professor Fox agreed Wilson was one of the worst presidents and acknowledged systemic racism.
  • Councilwoman Stephanie House Jones: She read the Cleveland Charter's first power: "May define, prohibit, abate, suppress, and prevent all things detrimental to the health, morals, comfort, safety, convenience, and welfare of the inhabitants of the city." She argued that the law department misinterpreted the auditor's letter (which only said elected officials should not assist with distribution, not that they cannot attend events). She noted 2025 municipal voter turnout was 9-27% by ward (18% for mayor), refuting the idea that gift cards buy votes. She cited a $71,000 needed yearly for a single parent with one child, while the average household income is $56,000, calling $25 or $50 gift cards insufficient but necessary.
  • Councilman Slife, Jones, Shaw, Starr: Slife urged distinguishing cynicism from corruption and asked about accountability. Shaw criticized the law department and noted that millions are given to billionaires while small gift cards are scrutinized. Starr requested a future hearing in Ward 5, where 71% of residents live near/in poverty and 52,000 households earn under $25,000. He objected to singling out any ward.

Key Outcomes

  • Consensus: All participants agreed that food gift cards are a legitimate and ethical tool to help constituents, provided a transparent process is followed.
  • Criticism of Law Department: Several council members expressed frustration that the law department overinterpreted the auditor's guidance, creating unnecessary barriers and misrepresenting the word "assist."
  • Next Steps: Councilman Starr requested that a future operations committee hearing on ethics be held in Ward 5 to include community input. The chair (Harsh) agreed to consider the request.
  • No formal votes or legislation were taken; the hearing was purely informational.

Meeting Transcript

Order, Madam Chair, could you call the roll? Could you call the roll? Here. Here. Okay. Thank you. Great. So thank you everybody for attending today. We are not discussing any legislation, and there will be no votes called from members. We are what we are doing today is having a public discussion about ethics in government. As most folks know. By the way, I'm just gonna set the table and run through how this all works, okay? Um as most people know, Cleveland is one of the poorest cities in America. We have roughly a 28% poverty rate, um, which is of over 100,000 people living in poverty. Um anyone who's ever lived in poverty can attest that the impacts uh on a person are dire. Uh it does alter your sense of self-worth, it lessens your worldview because there are aspects of society you simply can't afford to access. Uh you know, having lived in a trailer park as a kid and uh filing uh tax returns for about a dozen years under 14,000, I can attest firsthand to the impact that poverty has on a person. Um it is something you can truly feel. And the impacts of generational poverty in America are still being studied, but we know the outcome is not good. Uh it's a very common desire and possibly even a responsibility of elected officials to lessen or alleviate the effects of poverty. And you can sit down here with us if you'd like. Okay. It is uh uh uh it is a desire for a lot of elected officials to lessen or alleviate the impacts of poverty, and one popular way on a local level to do this is with direct financial aid, often in the forms of a food card. A25 or $50 Dave's card, for example. Um Australian ethicist Peter Singer is well known for promoting the idea, the ethical framework that reducing suffering is a good thing. Um is actually in fact one of the best good things you can do. And so surely for somebody with very little money, a $50 food card can lessen their suffering on some level for some time at least. It's also worth noting that nearly every religious tradition on earth promotes charity and kindness uh to the poor as a good thing. In fact, it's a driving motivation for many people when they consider running for public office in the first place. So in the other corner is a long-running history in America of political corruption. Uh politicians use their power to access public funds and spend them in ways that advance their political careers, um, benefiting those close to them, or in some examples, just straight up bribing voters. Uh, this history is so well understood in the U.S. that uh many of the 90 million people who never ever vote will tell you it's because quote unquote they're all crooks. Right. The general public's inability or unwillingness to trust government is rooted in well-documented cases of public corruption. Uh the law department at City Hall has long been concerned about gift cards, should they appear too close to bribery or corruption in the public eyes. Um and it cannot be forgotten, honestly, that uh three members of this body have been sentenced to prison just this century, and two of them were for misallocation of public funds. Uh so the consequences for us are very real. And while we have conversations about this at City Hall all the time, we rarely have them publicly. Um, and nor would I expect this subject to get a lot of interest unless it does turn into a court case. Uh but then something rather incredible happened on September 9th of this year. The sitting president of the United States on national television, I think he was in Dallas, um, promised every American $5,000 from the federal government if the Republican Party wins in November. Um and before anybody could say that this was a misstep or misquote or an unintentional statement, Bernie Moreno, who is actually the senior senator from Ohio, promised that evening to draft the legislation ensuring that those checks would go out. It's doubling down immediately before the day was even over. In fact, uh payments to roughly 70,000 Ohioans have actually already been paid for another reason, uh something to do with uh Medic uh Obamacare, but uh from Trump for a different reason. And uh the point is that money from the federal government is being mailed to voters right now with an active and consequential election underway. Uh the two most common statements I heard about this are uh how is it legal and how can I get mine?

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