So I'm calling the meeting of the Citizens Police Review Board to order.

As uh we traditionally do, uh, we're gonna start with introductions, but I thought we'd start with Stephanie this time and just move around the table in another direction.

Yeah.

Stephanie Brown, special projects manager, and staff liaison.

And all of our city management fellow.

Steve Jeffrey, Vice Chair.

Doug Hunt, Chair.

Ed Robinson, board member.

Lynn Bergen, member.

Harry Castello, board member.

Steph Yochum, Human Rights Commission.

I'm Richard Harrell, Assistant Chief of the Columbia Police Department.

Thank you.

Oh, wow.

I think Steven beat you to it.

I think you seconded, as it turns out, Steph.

So moved and seconded to approve the agenda.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Opposed.

And similarly, the approval of the minutes, which everybody should have had a chance to look at.

Do I have a motion to approve the minutes?

I'll make a motion.

I'll second, Jeffrey.

All right.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Okay, good.

Looks like our old business is not there is none this morning or this afternoon.

So we're going to move on to new business, which I'm really looking forward to.

Um, which is the presentation that Demarcus Thomas Brown is going to give us.

Our when did you actually start, Demarcus?

What was your first day?

March thirty March thirty first.

I don't doubt that board members are going to uh have some questions and things like that they want to discuss with you.

But I think the best thing to do is I mentioned to you in the email is just for you to begin and and talk about your the work of the office and explain what it's all about and what your perspective on it is.

So for sure.

And I appreciate the invite, uh Doug, and I'm I'll just go through and then if there's any questions, I don't know how the format is here.

If there's any questions, I'm open to answering any questions that come after the um the initial presentation.

So I'll try to make this um pretty quick uh for you all.

So uh this introduction for the office, it was established in 2023.

And uh it the office aims to coordinate the development, implementation, and evaluation, prevention, intervention, and community enrichment.

One of the uh key things starting out uh in the ND office, and this was, you know, they say job description and then other duties assigned uh as they come up.

I think one of the other duties assigned as they come up that was not necessarily spilled out in the position was education and educating the general populace on what violence prevention is.

Um that synonymous terms of prevention and intervention don't exist, that prevention is its own lane, intervention and is its own lane, and there's a intermediary of the two basically working together in the in the right now to one to feed the other.

So that that was um a surprise uh to have to kind of educate community on these things.

And so um, but I'm happy to do so.

So that came with the office.

Uh the other thing I will say with with this slide is that as we see there it was established in 2023, and so there are a lot of people that could not wait until there was someone appointed in this office, and all the questions from a year and some change came through the floodgates.

So actually it was two years, because 23 is 2025.

So I was uh hired March 31st.

So two years of questions.

Um and they're still coming in.

So that was the other uh aspect to this as well.

So I I won't read what's there uh with what what I'm tasked with.

I will actually go through um that as we go through the presentation, but it's just there just uh for when I present, just so the under people understand what the office is about, community-oriented system of care we'll talk about.

So the Office of Violence Prevention on this slide here just shows uh we were in Columbia, South Carolina, uh learning from how they have been able to work with their uh both their their violent crime and their um crimes against property and and the unhoused situations and all that, all those separate things.

And what was interesting to hear the deputy chief there explain about their office of violence prevention was that he was their their that office and the the director there and all that they he was like the quarterback for for their team, and I mean you had different programs that he was working with from the United Way to uh their homeless uh or unhoused excuse me outreach uh for to their re-entry and and recovery outreach.

He was he was the quarterback, their office was the quarterback that kept everyone connected and cohesion was working through the Office of Violence Prevention to make sure there was this this flywheel of collaboration, if you will.

And so this graphic kind of shows that that approach to the Office of Violence Prevention.

This graphic is not made by me.

This is made by the National Institute for Criminal Justice Reform.

And so they give us um they house the National Office of Violence Prevention, so they give us all these these materials.

Uh but as we see there, the trauma-informed community-oriented system of care.

When we when when individuals are asking about the cycle of violence, what one of the things I think that is that is hard to explain is that that individuals in that cycle need everything now.

And so that community-oriented system of care, meaning we have to have the cohesion in play to be able to do housing and education and workforce development and resources for for staying housed, right?

So rental assistance, uh uh food assistance, all these things, parental assistance, right?

So all those things are needed when we're talking about breaking cycles, and so that community-oriented system of care is there, as well as the law enforcement aspect in that.

So uh with focused attorney as we'll get into later.

That is a major uh collaboration between law enforcement and the Office of Violence Prevention.

So uh the mission there, uh and and I do I do like reading uh these just because uh these are key to the office.

I don't I when we crafted these, it was it's like we wanted to exp people to be able to understand and hear about the office as they read the mission.

Um so the mission is to address root causes of violence and to support long-term community health and well-being by focusing on coordinating the development, implementation, and evaluation of prevention, intervention, and community enrichment in the continued development of programs to sustain coordinated initiatives achieved by collaborating with law enforcement, community-based organizations, government agencies, and other key community stakeholders.

I always get the question, so I'll just try to save some of the questions that you may ask.

So I'll I'll this is a freebie here.

Other community stakeholders are funders, right?

Because when we have community-based organizations, a lot of things that that undercut their sustainability is funding.

And a lot of things that cut the cohesion and collaboration is funding, because you have one organization fighting for the funding that the other organization that they could partner with are also fighting for, and so then that cuts their collaboration.

But if we can entice, then community stakeholders, those funders, in so we can cut through some of that built-in uh divisiveness through even the lens of funding.

So the vision is the city vision there, uh and then the purpose I I won't read, but it's do you know to convene like-minded partnerships.

Uh so one of the things I I won't do immensely is go to the trauma-informed, the definition of trauma.

Uh, Monday night at council, I did in depth go into the definition of trauma, what trauma looks like, uh, forlorn future, uh, hypervigilance.

I I it's interesting to me.

If you've never struggled with or been involved with the cycles of violence, you really don't know what to look for with those who are involved in that and with the post-traumatic stress disorder, then you also don't know how to cure it.

And so I I think what we hear in a lot of chatter is individuals that don't even know what the cycle of violence looks like.

And so I'm one that I I have hypervigilance and it's not ADHD.

I I'm always looking at the door.

Look at if you ask police officers, they'll they'll tell you it's it's a real deal, right?

And you're always looking at the door.

If someone's walking behind you, you want to see who's walking behind you, you want to see who's moving if you hear noise.

And that's you have people who live in a reality of flight, fight or flight because of the cycle of violence.

So I was in the situation where there was a a shooting, a mass shooting.

Uh no one got hit by the bullets, but the bullets were were going on, people were screaming, people are running, and all that.

That is still a reality, right for for me as I walk through.

And so I I recognize these things, and so we recognize that where there is a disease, there is a there needs to be a cure.

And we realize that our interventive events are interventive strategies are not the cure, but they're helping to sustain so that we can bring the cure.

And so that's uh why I I hinge on that trauma informed what happened to you, not what's wrong with you mentality.

And and again, I'll say that uh this is as I said, Monday night, but this is not something I made up.

This is literally uh evidence-based practices that they that we see the the drop in uh violent crime in different areas, violent um encounters if you will.

So I'll go over our the methodology, and this is what I use to to educate the general populace um on the notion of prevention versus intervention, and then what community enrichment looks like.

And so the story I use is is a train, right?

I use a locomotive.

My my grandfather was uh was a train uh set builder, which it takes patience to do that.

I did not have that.

I do not, I'm not uh a uh frequenter of of train building workshops and all that, but my grandfather was.

And so the methodology of a train, and so the those who have never needed to seek a cure because they are seemingly unaffected by the disease, don't understand the illness and lack the ability to discern symptoms from prognosis, and therefore don't readily associate those that exhibit symptoms with a disease that needs a cure.

And if left untreated, like cancer, that illness will expand.

And that's what I ran into when individuals are like, well, why don't we just arrest everybody who's doing violence?

I was like, yeah, it doesn't work that way.

It's like we could arrest everyone that has cancer.

It's not gonna that's not actually the way we we do that.

Now, there are some people that we do need to, yeah.

When we talk about focus deterrence, we'll see that there is that interplay there, but as as far as a cycle of violence, uh root causes of violence, you really uh can't arrest your way out of those.

So the train containing cars, as I expand uh explained, has left the station.

We're we're it it left the station a long time ago.

Um and so the proponents to violence left the station many miles ago with each railroad tie crossing being an incident caused by those proponents.

As we've seen Saturday night, one incident alone is is too many, right?

One one incident is is just is unbearable.

And so we can no longer stop the train from leaving the station, but hopefully we can prevent the locomotive from crossing successive ties by attempting to divert, contain and minimize the effects of the current crossings.

That's intervention, right?

To slow the train the and see how we can potentially divert.

That's that's intervention is we are getting in and helping to hoping to slow each situation and each issue.

We are also tasked with slowing the train in order to get us time to hopefully get out in front of the procession to build in measures that will eventually stop the train's progression.

And that's prevention.

How can we stop this progression?

How can we stop the crossings, if you will, that that represent uh situations?

How can we stop that?

And that's prevention that we look at.

And lastly, once the train has been successfully halted, we can then remove the proponents to violence and repurpose the train and the cars for communal use and enjoyment, and that's community enrichment, transformation.

How do we transform areas that were known for for violent encounters and root causes to violence and that we could see actually full-scale transformation?

That's 15, 20 years that that the uh the studies have shown us, the the practices have shown us that it takes that long to see transformation, but we can start that and see buy off in four or five years, see see um actually results in four or five years, excuse me.

And so one of the things I I show people when I when I'm talking about this is the Highline.

I've been there in New York City, the high line, beautiful place, beautiful park.

Uh it was not always a beautiful park.

And uh there I I've seen that this may be myth, but uh 500 deaths are supposedly happened at the high line, whether somebody got hit by a car, hit by a train, or overdose or or so on and so forth.

But what is not a myth is that when they turn this area that was de well that was no longer used as a train stay uh train track into a park, they have eight hundred eight million visitors a year.

And it's the place of enrichment.

And so we see transformation.

It took a while, but we see transformation and highlighting is uh part of that um proof of transformation, if you will.

And so uh, as we say, prevention is five to ten years, it's a long run game.

Uh intervention is one to three years, so short run, right in the midst of coordinated, rapid responses and and efforts of that of that nature.

And then we see the tapestry or both that bring community enrichment.

And so uh some of the examples of that is case management, care coordination, things uh things of that nature.

Oh, this keeps going back with some.

Oh, yeah.

Care uh core functions, community coordination.

That's a huge piece because we have if everyone's doing the same thing, then we have major gaps and uh they need to be filled and they need to be enticed.

Organizations to be enticed to where we have the problem.

Data informed strategies.

I can't say enough about uh the data that we're able to capture and see the areas that that need intervention uh uh throughout the city of Columbia and building off of data that has been taken.

So one of the council people mentioned the 20 uh 14 mayors task force.

So I apprehended some of those individuals that were on the mayor's task force, so they're actually on my advisory committee, and also was able to work in some of the efforts that they helped build out for that.

And so then that data and the reports that we got from some of the the uh consultants that were called in then, we're able to retain and build off of that data to see long-term uh sustaining of the uh programs that were developed there and program development evaluation.

We want to make sure we're evaluating.

If we say we're reaching those who are shooting or most likely to be shot, we want to make sure that those who are being uh that they're uh getting the care are actually those who fit that demographic, and if they're not, how do we how do we reach them and then support it sustainability and capacity is our core functions.

Uh evidence-based initiatives, group violence intervention, focused deterrence, cognitive intervention, and then neighborhood-based outreach and investment.

And then strategic objectives and community engagement, violence disruption, uh youth engagement, and policy advocacy, policy advocacy, excuse me.

And uh that's kind of how it sounds.

We're talking about housing, um, and we're talking about uh gun better uh common sense gun control.

I mean, as Chief Sluoty mentioned, uh we we got to do something with everybody having a gun, especially with our minors walking around with guns.

I y'all would not have wanted me to have a gun at 15 years old.

I don't I don't know how that we we gotta do something about that because that is a cause to community violence.

And then some of the initiatives that we're doing out of the office currently, uh cognitive intervention, that's the average childhood experience training, grief and loss training that we're doing.

We've wrapped that up and called it community mental health for practical community application trainings, just so that those in the uh in our neighborhoods that we've identified aren't freaked out by like the clinical terms.

And so it's like, hey, this is just teaching us how we can walk through this, right?

How we how we can look at what we've been through.

Also the positive childhood uh situations that have happened.

And so we have uh a consultant doing that for us.

Focus deterrence is uh community navigation liaisons.

I would tell you that uh us in the police department are looking at ways that we can partner to uh do full sale in a robust form of focused deterrence because there's more uh there's got to be a law enforcement element in that for the the services element to actually be able to fully um give and and uh have the results that that are necessary in that the neighborhood-based outreach investment, that's our neighborhood opportunity and community accountability pro council, it's our no cap group.

Right now we're in near east.

It's identified through the stressor map and the GIS uh 911 calls, uh, and that is the area also identified in strategic areas in the 2014 task force and the 2017 um research that we got from new chapter coaching.

Our key performance indicators, reduction of violent crime rates, increased community engagement and trust, and coordination of intervention, prevention, and enrichment programs.

We're currently working with a host of community-based organizations here in Columbia.

I won't do the call to action.

That's it.

Comments, questions you want to address?

Um, where would uh restorative justice fall into something like this?

Are you familiar with that term where you yeah, so it sounds to me like that may be something that would play into something like this?

Yeah, so restorative justice, that's one of the so we rely on like the community-based organizations.

That's where organizations like the recovery, the re-entry opportunity center, where they work with re-entry, those coming back also with the Empower Missouri, they work with those who are um uh in the director there, works with individuals coming back, also working with DLC to make sure they have their life documents and all that, making sure they can the if there's anything that can be expunged and all that, they they partner with state agencies to be able to offer that to the to those working with probation and parole.

And so that that restorative justice piece will come in in the uh coordination with entities like uh The Rock or Fresh Start and uh Powerhouse as well with treatment court and things of that nature with uh Commissioner Clevenger.

But that would be part of the CBOs that you were talking about.

Yep.

Okay.

I saw your your presentation uh on Monday night.

It was really well put.

Um I did have another question.

Um it passed me.

Let me think of it again.

I have two.

The first one would just be like, is it a little bit overwhelming to compete with a reduction in funding for after-school programs at the same time?

Okay, I'm like thinking of all of the youth, and then like they have to have something to do.

I assume a city can only affect so much on some of those federal funded, federally funded after school programs.

Okay.

That's what I was trying to think through.

You had mentioned the other night about this is a long-term plan for them, a lot of it is in the in the you're you you had talked about if you could again talk about things that happened a while back that we're seeing the benefit of now.

I I remember you talking about that, that there was a group of of men or CBOs that did some things that we're we're reaping the fruit of now.

Um could you speak to that again?

I I thought that was powerful.

For sure.

So um, and I want to say around 2002.

I think she has documented maybe it might have been 1997.

But Miss Mr.

and Mrs.

J's African American Institute was formed for what what Stella Johnson, who is she's now passed on.

But what she saw as the outworking with kids in the school system, not being able to uh adequately read or write, and then what that started to be turned into is behaviors, and then seeing also that work in the community.

And so she began she built a a program that was interesting.

It was not just for the students, it was for the parents.

So if the parents were gonna bring their kids and she was going to work with the parents as well as she worked with the kids, it's a fantastic program.

Uh Ms.

Wanda Faye had the programs down at the Blind Boon Center, and so you had drop-ins, right?

Parents could actually bring their kids down, they would do homework help, they would feed them, and they would you could have uh, you know, they played video games and all that, and you had to stay in the center.

You could not leave.

And if the only way you could leave is if your parent gave you permission, and they acted as surrogate parents, right?

They also did so you had blind boon or the high steppers were in that in that.

I don't know how Mr.

Rose is still doing that.

But they were still, they were there.

You had uh access to care and workforce development.

And so they they they created these programs that and we see Wanda Faye saying in 2009 she was worried about gang involvement.

Well, they tried to silence Juana Faye because no one wanted anyone to believe that there were gains in Columbia.

And Wana Fay is like, y'all can silence me, but I'm telling you what's going on.

And so they continue.

Uh there was uh Mr.

Prince, who uh is dead now, but started sports leagues to engage the youth to get them off the streets and having something to do, right?

So we did uh football, baseball, and um basketball.

And so the midnight who these were and these were things that weren't just fun things to do.

They were they were strategically created to stave off the violent crime that they saw happening in Columbia as it started to ramp up.

And then in 2016, there was a coalition built, they called it community of faith.

Community of faith has since been disbanded, but we have like four or five CBOs that have now been created outside of community of faith that came together uh because of gun violence uh during that time.

Welcome.

Um I'm gonna do a sort of narrow question in a sense.

But uh I'll preface this by saying one of my uh best friends way back in high school days once went to a uh war protest with the sign that said withdraw U.S.

troops from Nova Scotia, much to everyone's confusion.

When I when I looked at the demonstration that was happening at the keyhole uh before the City Council meeting, I was seeing signs that talked about the loitering ordinance and uh oddly one about no mo zones, and then we were looking at um uh a lot of things about the homeless.

And it seems like there was a conflation of lots of things that whether they're really related or not is a little hard to say.

I'm gonna I'll I'll let you have draw let you take a bye on the no-mo zones, unless you've got a strong feeling about it.

But I I am curious because there's been so much call for uh loitering ordinances and uh cleaning out homeless camps in the context of violence prevention.

So I'm just curious about how you're seeing that and what you what you think needs to be done in Columbia or you know, I think the um unhoused situation with with with unhoused uh inadequate housing is I think for careful if we make that a violent crime and unhoused conflation, we are gonna step back from actually being able to bring uh adequate solutions because those gotta be separated, right?

Those are those are not all the I I don't know.

I I would like to see research on who's doing the causal research in that and and and the correlated research because you because something happens and there happens to be unhoused folks there does not mean that they're causing the violence and and the violence prevention that we're dealing with is in pockets of neighborhoods.

I mean, we can go walk down Quail Avenue or Quail Court, I don't know the the but Quail down there.

I I I can't I can tell you how to get there.

We could go walk down Rice Road down to where it turns over to Hanover and see where we have those who are um the um you know disabled population living in a place where they're right next to those who are um you know who are living with three or four kids in the house, and so at Hanover Village, right?

And so walking, walking through there and seeing the the pockets of when we're talking about violence prevention, we're talking about uh wholesale root causes to violence.

Now, can unhouse be a root cause?

I think unhoused is a root cause to we have mental health, we have a lack of uh access to resources, but I don't see unhoused being a root cause.

Degradation is a root cause.

Poverty is a root cause to violence, which unhoused can float in that.

But as you can see, if we put all that together, we're not gonna come to adequate solutions because what's needed at McKee Street is not the same thing that's needed for those who frequent downtown looking for resolve and um whether they want money for what uh a whole myriad of things, it's not the same issue.

Thank you in my opinion.

Are you familiar with the Center for Conflict Resolution in Kansas City?

I am I am not.

I actually met someone from Kansas City that works in the mayor's office, and they're trying to start an office of IS Prevention there.

Okay.

Um it is just a nonprofit organization that's somewhat well known nationally, and they are one of the groups that's teaching people the formal steps to do things like mediating transformative justice, where the store owner and the person who did commit the misdemeanor against the store owner can actually talk things out and establish a dialogue.

Um Kansas City uses programs like that.

And I ever from everything I've read about these particular communications.

I don't think we have anything like that going on here in Columbia.

I was just curious if there were ever the intent for additional restorative justice dialogue.

That's what reminded me of it.

Um they mentioned the other night about getting you somebody else on your staff, and I just hope that happens.

I hope it happens extremely quickly.

And I appreciate you being here.

Thank you for that.

Good.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

You're very welcome.

And you're I'm so glad you're here.

That's great.

Thanks for the invite.

Um I think we're getting an update on just what we're doing with the up annual report.

Yes.

So it is that time of year again for the annual report.

Um so I'd like to have the draft ready in December.

Uh it would go before council in January, probably the second meeting of January, maybe the first meeting of February for the intro and first read.

Um that way we capture any um appeals that may come in in in December potential appeals.

Um so for November, I would like the board to think about um any of the highlights you would like to add to the report, any of your activity.

I know in the past we've added ride-alongs, um, we've added any um presentations that you may have given, um, attendance to the NACOL conference.

So if you want to consider any things that you've done throughout the year this past year uh that you like could um added to the report, I'll add those in and and I'll collect those from you um by the November meeting or at the November meeting.

We can put it on the agenda for next month.

Um so and like I said in the past, we put things uh as far as any ride-alongs that you've done with uh the police department, um, have you hosted any work sessions um or presentations really at this point?

Um, and then any attendance to the NACOL conference.

Okay.

And if I heard you right, you're gonna start with a draft and then we can look at it and see whether there are things that we want to add.

Is that the plan?

Yes, yes.

So probably the December meeting, um, I'll have the draft prepared.

And so at that point, the only thing that would need probably need to be added are any uh additional pills that would come through in December.

Um but everything else would be um for you to look at in December.

Good.

Questions about that or comments.

Steph, do you have anything to report from the Human Rights Commission?

Mine is very brief.

Um I do really appreciate that DeMarcus differentiated that we know that panhandling is not actually related to gun violence typically, and that the more bright lights, young people and officers who are around, the fewer people on the street you're actually going to find they don't want anything to do with that noise.

Um with everything terrible that has happened.

A lot of our people on the street had an extremely rough weekend the weekend after.

Um we had a guy with a few broken ribs got kicked by the cops.

He's got he had a collapsed lung, there's a tube coming out, the nurses are watching that, they'll take his stitches out next week.

We had someone who stated they were walking across 10th near Broadway on the edge of a group of students, and I believe this was homecoming weekend, and I guess an officer just pointed out and started screaming, gave them a jaywalking ticket.

Um and we had people who had like multiple trespassing charges like in the same day or the same weekend.

I understand everyone is extremely frustrated right now.

It was a very punitive weekend for the people at the very bottom rung of society be partially because of what happened.

That said here.

Yeah.

I I do not see members of the public to comment, so members?

Any members want to make a yeah, there was someone here briefly, but uh but he left.

Any members of the board want to make a uh a comment.

Right.

Or staff.

Um I do have an announcement.

Um so I mentioned that the uh group out of St.

Louis was looking to put together a panelist for a round table discussion um regarding uh Missouri oversight boards.

So we did finalize a date for uh one of the first meetings, which is October 16th from 6 p.m.

to 7 30 p.m.

And it is a virtual meeting.

Um hopefully that makes it a little more accessible for people to join.

I'll send out the flyer to everyone uh by tomorrow morning uh so that you have that.

But we have four panelists on there right now, um one from representatives from of course Columbia, Missouri, I'll be on the panel, uh St.

Louis, Missouri, Ferguson, and um Kansas City, Missouri.

And so the with this first um round table, we'll kind of be giving introductions to the boards in our area and uh the the history and the purpose and vision behind the board, so just factual information um as well as like what our duties are, what your board duties are, and then also some board duty highlights or board highlights that we had in our 2020 re 2024 report.

Um I did want to uh get your input on any future um endeavors that you'd look to do, future missions or visions or things that you'd like to set your sights on.

Um I know in the here the past year you've kind of focused on some training and education as far as understanding the uh processes for the police department, and of course now we're hearing from the Office of Uh Violence Prevention.

I know the city manager has um talked a little bit about maybe potential collaboration between the board and that office.

Um and then of course um attending the NACOL conference and um any other things that you think the board will focus on in the future.

That's uh opening up a uh rather large discussion, but and which we may not get in tonight, but uh I listening again to the comments of the uh board at the uh end of our last meeting.

Um I don't know whether we this is an official thing or an unofficial thing.

I think it is time for us to go talk to the city council about uh reversing the narrowing of our duties as much as as possible.

Um I don't know if that's a board action or whether that's an individual action, actually, but I'm feeling pretty strongly that we ought to get that re-examined.

It will be very interesting, Stephanie, I think, to see how other uh boards are dealing with the state laws that apply and and all that sort of stuff, and how their uh their uh bylaws and their um uh rules have changed uh in in response.

But I thought there was a pretty strong feeling about feeling constricted about uh what we can do.

So I don't know how you report that, so to speak, Stephanie.

Yeah, but I would be very curious to see how the conversation develops when the various boards describe how they're operating.

So I I do also have a comment, I apologize.

Uh I wanted to uh during pride this weekend, we had um during the uh parade.

Um I wanted to say that there were several officers that I saw that went above and beyond.

So I and I didn't I didn't have an opportunity to stop and get their information.

Um but the compassion they showed was uh appreciated.

Absolutely.

So I commend uh the officers for a lot of young faces, a lot of new faces.

That's when one of the things that stood out was the young faces.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I wanted to say thank you.

I had fun, and I saw a bunch of officers at price.

I tabled a couple of booths.

I do have one comment that's not that important.

Peyton and I are both participating in Como Civic Academy.

It's quite fun.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

There you go.

Common Civic Academy, I think this is only the fifth or sixth time they've had it.

All it is is a Columbia specific eight-week civics course.

Like, but it's all the most obvious stuff that we would want answered.

And obviously, if more citizens were able to be more participatory, everyone would know what would want to know this stuff.

Um but yeah, week three is tomorrow.

Great.

Wonderful.

Anything else?

Right.

I do not believe that uh unless somebody else perceives a need that I do not, we need a motion to go into closed session because we we do not have any appeals before us.

Um pause a little bit because it might be of of service to uh Stephanie and in a way to the staff in general.

Are there things that people feel should be on the agenda for the next meeting?

Our last 10 minutes of conversation has given me two very large things to think about that maybe we could email you if we okay.

So we'll try to get some input that way.

All right.

Um next meeting date is November 12th.

And do I hear a motion to adjourn?

I'll make a second.

So move.

Right.

All right.

And I think this is a roll call vote as I recall, so Stephanie will call the roll.

Anarchy, just let us leave.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

Oh, okay.

All in favor, say aye.

Aye.

Opposed?

Well, that's right.

Good.

Yeah, it would be if we went into closed session that would be the right.

Okay, gotcha.

All right.

Well, thank you.