0:05I will now call the Thursday, April 23rd, 2026 meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission to order.
0:10Commissioner Brodsky, may we please have a roll call?
0:14Commissioner Stanton.
0:17Commissioner Stockton.
0:21Commissioner Walters.
0:28Commissioner Goway Jones.
0:34Commissioner Ortiz is absence.
0:36We have a quorum of seven.
0:42We are there any changes or adjustments to the agenda this evening, Mr.
0:47No, there are not, ma'am.
0:48Is there a motion to approve the agenda?
0:49I moved to approve the agenda.
0:52Moved by Commissioner Stanton, seconded by Commissioner Gray.
0:54Thumbs up approval in the agenda.
0:57We all received a copy of the minutes from the April 9th, 2026 regular meeting.
1:01Are there any changes or adjustments to the minutes?
1:04I moved to approve the minutes of April 9, 2026.
1:10Moved by Commissioner Stanton, seconded by Commissioner Darr.
1:14Thumbs up approval of the minutes unanimous with abstentions from Commissioners Stockton and Gowway Jones.
1:21The only item on our agenda for this evening is a tabling request, case number 91-2026, a request by Crockett Engineering Consultants, LLC agent on behalf of PD and CJ property seeking approval to rezone the subject property from Plan Development PD to PD and approval of a site-specific statement of intent, allowing development of 34 multifamily units to be known as Bay Hills PD.
1:43The approximately 3.5 acre subject site is located at the property addressed 3 and 21 Grace Lane, a request to table this matter to the May 21st 2026 planning and zoning commission meeting has been received.
1:55This is the applicant's second request to require readvertising and public notification.
2:00May we please have a stop report.
2:02Yes, as described, the uh request is to uh extend the tabling uh from this evening's meeting to the May 21st meeting in order to allow the applicant to resubmit a revised set of plans addressing technical comments and to uh engage in discussion as it relates to an associated development agreement establishing triggers and contribution requirements uh associated with the impacts of the development may create.
2:29Staff is supportive of the request uh and will allow us the opportunity to continue to work forward uh with the applicant.
2:38Are there any questions for staff on the tabling request?
2:43Seeing none, would anyone uh was this was advertised, correct?
2:49Yes, it was advertised to date certain for today.
2:52If anyone is here to speak on the tabling request, please come forward now.
2:57Seeing none, we will close public comment and go to Commissioner Command.
3:01Are there any commissioner comments on the tabling request?
3:03Commissioner Stanton.
3:05Again, I tend a motion, madam chair.
3:07As relates to case 91-2026, Milton Corridor, Rolling Hills, and Richard Rowe, PD rezoning and plan.
3:18I moved to table this to date certain May 21st, 2026.
3:25Moved by Commissioner Stanton, seconded by Commissioner Gray.
3:28Is there any discussion on the motion?
3:33Commissioner Brodsky, maybe we have a roll call on the tabling request.
3:37Commissioner Stanton.
3:40Commissioner Stockton.
3:42Commissioner Walters.
3:47Commissioner Goway Jones.
3:50And Commissioner Gray.
3:54That matter will be tabled to date certain May 21, 2026.
3:58Uh that concludes our business for the evening.
4:01Are there any members of the public here to make comments of a general nature?
4:11Pick on you because you don't have anything on your agenda.
4:14But um Great, you have to state your name and address for the record.
4:16Okay, Gaphart, civil engineer, civil group.
4:20I want to bring up an issue with the ADUs in general.
4:26And it's has nothing to do with Chapter 29.
4:28It's about Chapter 12A, which is the stormwater ordinances.
4:32A lot of the central city is what they call critical downstream locations, and there's a map that shows those.
4:39You can look look that up on the website.
4:43And there is a policy letter from John Glasscock on that that uh states what you have to do if you're in a critical downstream location.
4:53Um I don't really want to get into the weeds of the uh stormwater ordinance, um, but there is uh two paths in it.
5:01There's a development path and uh and a redevelopment path.
5:05Most of the inner city would uh fall under the redevelopment um path, except if you're in this uh critical downstream location area.
5:14And if you're there, then you you have to not only provide detention for what's there, you have to provide um I think it's 50 percent more for what you propose.
5:26This is going to be an impediment to um this type of construction.
5:31And it's the ordinance is poorly written in in a lot of ways, and that um there's some exceptions when you read through uh Chapter 12a and the exceptions, it it talks about single family homes are accepted.
5:47And what that has always been interpreted to mean is like if you at your home you wanted to put a deck on or a patio on your back, you don't have to follow the stormwater ordinance.
5:57And so I I would be interested in seeing if you guys would entertain the idea of doing a carve out for uh ADUs on uh on this critical downstream location and allow people to build them without this being triggered uh by it.
6:12And it's really this nebulous, it depends on who the staff member is and what what what we're told and what the project is.
6:21Um yeah, if they're tearing down everything and they're rebuilding brand new, you need to provide detention, you need to provide water quality, that's not an issue.
6:30What I'm talking about is if you're building another ADU in the back, um this could be a uh pretty large impediment to it because when you look at these this map, the critical downstream location map, you'll see that there's very little north of Broadway that is not in a critical downstream location.
6:49And the critical downstream locations were determined by staff as being tributary to a point that there's a known flooding issue or a known uh problem.
7:01And so what I've proposed to staff um about three months ago was say, okay, well, we're building this detention and we're overbuilding detention because of this existing issue.
7:13So give me relief from that and let me give you the money I would spend on that, and you guys put it in a pot of money to go fix that problem.
7:22Because the problems are big enough that not one project can fix that.
7:26You know, you can't I can't say, well, I'm gonna go down there and replace that pipe underneath Garth because it's you know it's a 150,000 dollar project, and I can build a detention for 25,000.
7:37So why would I do that?
7:39But I would give the city 25,000 to go fix that problem, and they could collect that money from um people being developed.
7:47The downside to my idea is that in the meantime, until the city does fix it, the problem doesn't it isn't fixed, and there could be more flooding or or more severe.
7:59So it's not a perfect solution, but um if you if you could think about how we could maybe carve out so that it doesn't impede these type of um this type of what you're trying to promote.
8:14Because I you guys put a lot of effort into this, and I'd hate to see something that has nothing to do with what you live in.
8:21You live in Chapter 29.
8:22I live in both 12A and 29, and um it's going to I can see it being in uh a pretty big issue where it becomes where okay I'm allowed to do this, I can do all this, but I can't afford to do this.
8:44Any other member of the public comments?
8:49Seeing none, we will go to staff comments, Mr.
8:53So your next meeting, as I indicated this this evening and work session, will be May 7th.
8:59Uh it will begin with a uh work session uh to which we will begin the conversation as it relates to data center uh use specific standards uh as well as uh specific um conditional use criteria.
9:16Kuntz is uh working on pulling together information that we believe will be relevant.
9:21Uh we are probably going to scope more of what we intend on looking at uh and how we intend on engaging uh our allied departments.
9:30Um he will be away at a national planning conference for the next week uh starting tomorrow, and hopefully uh this topic obviously will probably be in one of the educational tracks, uh so we should come back energized with ideas of how others may be approaching this from a national perspective.
9:48But this evening's conversation during work session obviously uh lends me to understand that you as commissioners are also beginning uh your investigation of this topic, and I think it would be valuable to uh maybe come not per se loaded for bear uh for Mr.
10:07Koontz at our next meeting, but loaded with suggestions as to have you thought about this.
10:13This is an area that may be worthwhile to consider.
10:17The process is going to be slow.
10:23It is the intent that staff will be meeting internally with our own staff in our departments that are going to be most impacted by this industry and this use in order to identify what the metric criteria are that we will expect in an application package.
10:42Those will be the use-specific standards.
10:45The specific conditional use criteria, on the other hand, will be what we see left on the table that we have not gotten out of the detailed reports of that submission.
10:58The package as a whole is the toolbox that the industry will use to ensure that if they are going to make a proposal in Columbia, that proposal is complete enough for it to even be considered.
11:12Smith noted this evening, the administrative delay will appear for council consideration for first reading and introduction on the May 4th council agenda with a possible adoption of that administrative delay at the second meeting in May.
11:31Initially there was discussion that that administrative delay would be a maximum of six months after further consultation with our legal department and thinking about all of the parts that are going to go into this.
11:46The request is going to be made of council to approve a 12-month administrative delay.
11:52As I counted on one hand today, I've got five months in the Planning and Zoning Commission.
11:57There will be three probably here with you.
12:00There will be two with the public on Be Heard, and then we're going to have to come back to you as a follow-up to the comments from be heard.
12:10That's six months right there.
12:12We didn't want to be running to do an extension.
12:14So we will unpack this slowly and methodically.
12:18We intend to probably, it may not be an every work session topic, because as I have stated previously, we don't want to.
12:27We're always chasing our tail to try to produce documentation for the next commission meeting because we are preparing for council meetings in between our commission meetings.
12:37So our staff needs time to absorb what you have said during the work session, do some additional research, and so what I'm assuming or believing will end up happening is that we will do work sessions, every other work session will be related to this topic.
12:52And part of this evening's discussion during work session was to lay out what we would be talking about in the in-between times.
13:00I have not forgotten, and I have every intention of being able to distribute, which we have not yet, and I want to be very upfront about this with the commission.
13:10We have not distributed to our industry partners, small on integration.
13:16We have been dealing with our staffing shortages.
13:18I have lost another staff member this week.
13:22We are we have been completing interviewing.
13:25I potentially have a senior planner candidate that we will hopefully be able to onboard once an offer is made.
13:33But that candidate will be basically dealing with our comprehensive planning and our long-range planning functions.
13:38So I am still having to fill two planners.
13:42So it has been obviously, as you may imagine, quite an exhausting period of time.
13:47That's with budget and dealing with a variety of other topics that we are also managing.
13:52So I'm not going to give you a time frame, because every time I give you a time frame, I never can meet that and I get frustrated with myself.
14:00What I will tell you is we will get to the small lot integration and the conversation about that as quickly as we can, and I would uh hope to you that it will be before the end of this fiscal year, which would be the end of September, that will allow us enough time for public comment to come back, internal review of that comment, and then we possibly restructuring the ordinance to bring back to the Commission for final discussion.
14:25Vumes are not getting slower.
14:28Brodsky had raised this at the beginning of the work session.
14:30We are still doing a fairly sizable number of concept reviews on an every other week basis.
14:37So we have people that are kicking the tires.
14:39But the economy and financing and all the other things that are going on right now in our world aren't resulting in a lot of follow-through, but we've got a lot of stuff that's in the pipeline that is just one step away.
14:55Five cases on your May 21st agenda.
14:58There will probably be five.
15:00I've got five or six items that have already come in, not all going to the Planning Commission for my next submission deadline.
15:06So we are being kept occupied in the interim periods of time.
15:11I don't like meeting unless we have something to discuss with you.
15:13So there may be occasion that we cancel the work session only because we don't want to burn you out, and we don't want to be trying to burn the candle at both ends on a staff end to try to produce documents to make a meaningful work session.
15:26We've got topics we will start to work down that list.
15:34As we onboard new staff, you will have an opportunity to meet them in work session and we will hopefully be able to get our legs back underneath us and send our ship sailing again down a path of being able to make deadlines that I have indicated I would like to meet so we can move our program forward.
15:51With that being said, uh we do have a meeting on the 7th, and it will include, as I noted, uh five total items.
15:58There are four public hearing, or there are four public hearing matters, and then there is one subdivision, a preliminary plat, albit small preliminary plat.
16:06It is still the first we have had in months.
16:08Um that is case 121 at the eastern terminus of Scarborough Drive.
16:14Uh then we have the ADU uh text change that will be on our uh on our docket that we discussed this evening and during work session.
16:23We have a major revision, uh this is not a rezoning request.
16:27I want to be very clear that it is not a rezoning.
16:30This is a plan revision uh to our property that is the corner of Scott Boulevard and Vaughn School Road.
16:38This is the Copperstone Corner property, uh the balance of the tract of land that is to the west of the uh Deventure site, which we took uh up about two years ago, uh, is being sought to be uh redeveloped as a assisted uh senior living center, uh.
16:56Given that the commercial development uh for that property is not deemed viable at this point.
17:01So that is the major plan amendment.
17:04All of the underlying uh statement of intent provisions uh generally are being retained.
17:10There has been a revision to the traffic study, so there will be uh some other amendments that will need to be made that go along with this project, but there is no formal rezoning from PD to PD.
17:21We're trying to keep all of it within the plan approval that presently exists.
17:25And part of the PD designation as discussed when we did the reapproval uh of the Copper Stone Corner was because that's what the neighbors wanted.
17:33They wanted PD because they wanted they want an additional opportunity to review.
17:37Uh the other project that is a new PD rezoning plan and a preliminary plat, all in one, uh, is west-southwest of 2909 Rock Warry Road.
17:50Uh this is north of the extension of Gray Oak and where Grindstone Plaza Drive intersect.
17:56This is a property that has uh three parcels, or it's comprised of two parcels today, both of which front uh in essence to Rockware Road.
18:06The purpose for the PD plan, uh, because this is a multifamily project, is to provide uh surety uh to the adjacent property owners along the Rockware Road corridor, which is scenic of what is going to happen.
18:19So this is more of a tactical uh issue to resolve potential outrage of development in this particular environment.
18:27Um the uh the plan is the plan has public road infrastructure installation uh and is uh consistent with the uh general built environment that is further to the south.
18:41Uh so multifamily or not multifamily, two family development to the north uh of the parcel site is what exists along the Rockware Road Corridor.
18:51Um we could have done this property as RMF, so I want to just get out in front of that now.
18:56However, due to the sensitivities of this particular environment, uh the applicant chose uh to do PD.
19:04And I think we will be better served long term.
19:07This is a purpose-built uh student housing project, and therefore probably very limited change associated with the project.
19:15So once approved, likely to be developed per plan, uh just because that is the model that they are using.
19:21Uh and then finally, uh the last project site uh that we have is a short-term rental.
19:26Uh is at 713 Hilltop uh drive.
19:30Um this is an R1 zone parcel of property uh in East Campus off of a uh a roadway that one wouldn't claim is a road, but it is, uh, and just happens to be next to a very uh uh well-wired in individual within our community who is the adjacent property owner to the South.
19:52So if you all want to look it up on the assessors records, you'll know exactly what I'm referring to.
19:56Um this should be a very interesting public hearing.
20:01We have already heard from many residents, uh, including uh the most notable citizen uh that we have within the community, and uh at least her husband.
20:10So we will uh stand by for some additional correspondence before we go live with the staff report in about a week.
20:18Just so we know where we're talking about.
20:22Um our Scarborough project, our property down off of Water, which I believe we are all familiar with, our property there on Rock Quarry, which is an oddly shaped tract of land with an appendage that goes down to the public street of Grindstone Plaza Drive.
20:36That is where the public street will connect, and then it curves through the development uh to Rockway Road, and then our Hilltop Drive project.
20:44Uh text amendment is a citywide amendment, therefore it does not have individualized public advertising.
20:50That is all I have to offer.
20:51Thank you very much for your time uh and your attention this evening.
20:55Thank you very much.
20:56Are there any commissioner comments this evening?
21:00Commissioner Obradsky?
21:01Not so much a comment, but I just want to check something with legal real quick.
21:05I don't think this is issue, but on the minutes, um we have two commissioners absent, and two of the commissioners that are here had to abstain from that vote.
21:13So we technically only had five votes on our minutes.
21:17Is that okay, or does that violate quorum?
21:20And we need to revisit that next time.
21:22No, that doesn't require it.
21:23That doesn't violate the quorum.
21:26Just want to double check.
21:30Any other commissioner comments?
21:33Commissioner Stanton?
21:34Adam Chair, I would like to enter 10 a motion.
21:40Move to adjourn by Commissioner Stanton, seconded by Commissioner Gray without objection.