OPENPUBLICA · PUBLIC MEETING RECORD
Record of Proceedings

Second Hearing on Proposed City Rental Registry (Oct 27, 2025)

City CouncilMonday, October 27, 2025
BodyColumbus, Ohio
SessionCity Council
DateMonday, October 27, 2025
StatusFILED
Video Record
0:00 / 2:17:20

Transcript — Verbatim
0:07

Good afternoon.

0:08

Thank you for joining us.

0:10

We will call this hearing to order.

0:12

Thank you for joining us for the second hearing on the proposed creation of a city rental registry.

0:19

I would like to thank my colleagues who have joined me as well as our Department of Development and Building and Zoning for the work they've put in since uh the last hearing.

0:30

On September 16th, I held an initial hearing to discuss the proposed creation of a rental registry for the city.

0:39

Since that hearing, our office has received dozens of emails, letters, and phone calls from residents, organizations, and property owners expressing their comments and thoughts.

0:49

We've also done some, I think intentional engagement with folks directly as well.

0:53

Based on that feedback, our Department of Development and Department of Building and Zoning made several changes to the framework of the proposed registry.

1:08

But before jumping into the presentations of the changes, I would like to just remind everyone that we are still in the stakeholder engagement phase of this process and welcome continued feedback as well as what as we continue, excuse me, to tweak their framework of the registry.

1:28

And so I just want to clear up some things.

1:29

There is no legislation.

1:31

There is no predetermined outcome.

1:34

We are really engaging with folks.

1:36

And so I look at this room tonight and I'm thankful because this is part of the process as having a discussion of how we get to a solution that works for Columbus.

1:46

And so I want to thank everyone for being here today.

1:49

Again, we currently do not have any draft legislation prepared, nor do we have a full uh proposed budget for the registry just yet.

1:56

So again, we are still in that stakeholder and discussion phase.

2:00

Before we move on to our directors, again want to acknowledge my colleague, Councilmember Otto Beatty, and see if there's any opening comments that you would like to offer, Councilmember.

2:08

No, thank you.

2:10

Those are the briefest opening remarks of any council member ever in the city's history.

2:15

So I appreciate you.

2:17

Uh so now I would like to uh pass the mic to Director Scott Messer with our Department of Building and Zoning, and also Deputy Director Hannah Jones with our Department of Development for the presentations.

2:31

Directors, floor is yours.

2:33

Good afternoon.

2:34

Uh thanks, Councilmember.

2:36

Um before I start, uh I just also want to introduce a couple other members of our team that are here.

2:41

Ryan Kelsey from Building and Zoning Services and Graham Bowman from Development is here as well.

2:47

Uh as a team, as questions arise, we're all here to try to answer them the best we can.

2:52

Um but I do have a few slides to go through.

2:55

Um I'll try to make it as quickly as possible to work through these slides and then be happy to answer any questions.

3:03

So uh first of all, the first slide talks about our goals in this program is to establish an annual registration process for all residential rental properties.

3:13

Um there are exceptions as we've talked about in previous uh conversations for folks who are on other licensed programs or registries, so vacant property, hotel, motel, short-term rentals, those are all covered under other uh license and registration programs.

3:30

Um it'll help to provide the city with critical information related to the number, ownership, management, and condition of rental units and um the integration of a more proactive inspection process that we'll talk about in a minute that helps to respond to critical issues with some of our more troubling and problem properties.

3:51

Stakeholder feedback.

3:52

We want to just summarize a little bit of what we've heard so far.

3:56

Um we've heard that uh there needs to be a focus on our problem properties and our bad actors without unnecessarily burdening a majority of the owners who are responsible property owners.

4:06

Um the tier system that we originally introduced seemed overly complicated to folks.

4:11

Um the fees were high uh combined with a self-inspection um requirement uh to bring in outside inspectors uh would raise costs.

4:22

The local operator requirement would be difficult for some small out-of-town owners to comply with.

4:28

Um the details that we had around uh self-assestation, the ability for folks to um self-inspect were um critical to people and proactive inspections uh are necessary for tenants who fear retaliation at properties with a history of code violations.

4:46

Um that was all feedback that we heard from our original um proposal.

4:54

So what I'd like to do is just go over some of the um summary of our revisions that we've made based on those.

5:00

We created what we now call um conditional registration.

5:04

This is how we were responding to the idea of focusing on our more problem landlords.

5:09

And so what you'll see is that uh conditional registration is triggered by a uh rolling 12-month period uh looking at code enforcement housing zoning or health orders.

5:22

For 100 units or less, um, five orders would trigger, and for over 100 units, 10 orders would trigger a conditional registration evaluation.

5:33

Umresolved emergency vacate orders, failure to disclose accurate information, or being the subject of a criminal referral to city attorney for retaliatory action, may all put you in that conditional status.

5:48

Um I just highlight down there there's an asterisk.

5:52

When we talk about code enforcement orders, um I just want to highlight that that is not numbers of violations.

5:59

Oftentimes we our code officers would go out, we will find violations, give people a chance to correct those violations.

6:06

At some point, if the violations aren't corrected, a code enforcement order may be issued, and it might list as you know, five, ten, four, however many violations there are would be included in that code enforcement order.

6:20

So I want to be clear that it's not five technical violations, it's five separate incidents, five separate times that you've been issued an order from our code enforcement office or building housing or health.

6:38

Next, you have more information about the conditional registration.

6:42

Um it reverts back to a regular registration once an owner has complied with all outstanding orders.

6:48

Um the director will determine that the owner has complied uh with the terms of any remediation plan or uh outstanding issues that need to be addressed.

6:58

And then the property um could be removed from the registry and subject to civil penalties if they fail to comply with outstanding orders within 180 days or substantially uh fails to comply with the terms of any written remediation plan.

7:17

So here's the change we made under fees.

7:19

Um we were at 40 dollars uh per unit with a $5,000 maximum, and the new proposal has been revised down to $20 per unit with a total of $3,000 as a maximum.

7:32

Um so anyone with 150 units or more would max out at the $3,000 figure and would no longer owe the $20 per unit for anything above uh the maximum fee.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Affordable Housing███████████████████████████████████████████43%
Zoning And Land Use█████████████13%
Public Safety████████████12%
Public Engagement███████7%
Economic Development██████6%
Technology and Innovation█████5%
Homelessness█████5%
Community Engagement█████5%
Engineering And Infrastructure███3%
Summary of Proceedings

Second Hearing on Proposed City Rental Registry (Oct 27, 2025)

Councilmember Bankston convened the second hearing on the proposed creation of a city-wide rental registry for residential units in Columbus. The Department of Building and Zoning and the Department of Development presented a revised framework based on feedback received during the initial September 16th hearing and ongoing stakeholder engagement. Councilmember Bankston emphasized that no legislation or predetermined outcome currently exists, and the city remains in the stakeholder engagement phase while finalizing the program's budget and details.

Consent Calendar

  • [None]

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Opposition to the Registry:

    • Steve Glatman (Columbus Apartment Association): Expressed full opposition to the separate city registry, arguing it is duplicative of the county registry and unnecessary. He stated the proposed $20 per unit fee is excessive and not tied to documented costs. He positioned the net "too wide," arguing the policy penalizes responsible owners who receive orders for minor issues but comply quickly, rather than focusing solely on non-compliance or unresolved orders. He questioned the lack of a specific budget and the fairness of requiring compliant landlords to subsidize program operations.
    • Deb Krantz (Central Ohio Real Estate Entrepreneurs, individual landlord): Expressed strong opposition, stating the regulation makes Columbus less attractive for small investors. She positioned the proposal as adding unnecessary bureaucracy and costs that will be passed to tenants through rent increases. She urged the council to improve the existing county registry enforcement rather than creating a duplicate city system.
    • Mamadou Samuel Diofa (Real Estate Agent/Investor): Opposed the proposal based on experiences in Cleveland, arguing it creates bureaucratic obstacles for small investors trying to build wealth. He expressed concern that costs will rise and lead to higher rents, making it harder for residents to create wealth.
    • Christopher Jackson (601 West Companies): Stated strong opposition, arguing the registry adds bureaucracy that undermines affordability and duplicates existing enforcement tools. He positioned the initiative as failing to address root causes like aging infrastructure and called for investment and collaboration rather than increased penalties.
    • Daryl Jacobs (Solo Landlord): Expressed opposition to blanket fees, arguing they disproportionately burden "mom and pop" landlords compared to commercial owners. He requested that the city not demonize landlords and ensure small operators are included in future discussions.
    • Rosalyn Bay (Housing Provider): Opposed the initiative, arguing that adding costs to landlords inevitably increases rents and harms affordability. She positioned the majority of landlords as responsible individuals owning few properties to subsidize their retirement and requested that the city stop collectively punishing this group.
    • Dimitri Hotsifotinos (Willis Law Firm, representing Oakwood Management, Harbor Group, etc.): Expressed strong opposition to the fees and conditional inspection mechanisms. He argued the registry is legally preempted in many cases and poses an invasion of privacy for tenants of large compliant properties. He positioned the current proposal as a potential burden on 99% of compliant landlords and suggested the city should rely on existing county data and code enforcement rather than a new registry with mandatory fees.
  • Support for the Registry:

    • Daisy Chamberlain (BRED Organization): Expressed support for the original concept of proactive inspections but opposed the current revised proposal's reliance solely on self-attestation. She demanded clear outcome measures and insisted on proactive inspections for a representative sample of units to protect renters from retaliation and ensure safety.
    • Beth Fetzer Rice (Home for Families): Expressed full support for the registry as a critical tool to shift from reaction to prevention. She argued it protects families from negligent landlords and prevents the cycle of properties being sold to new owners to evade accountability, citing specific cases like Colonial Village and Latitude.
    • Aaron Sink (Local Landlord): Expressed support for targeting the "one percent" of bad actors more aggressively. While acknowledging the burden on good landlords, he argued for deeper penalties or special assessments for persistent non-compliers (e.g., vacant properties with unrepaired damage) rather than just the registry itself.
    • Remington Lyman (Reefco Real Estate): Correction: The transcript indicates Remington Lyman spoke in OPPOSITION, not support. He argued the registry adds fees and bureaucracy without fixing properties, would drive out small owners, and increase rents. He opposed self-attestation as ineffective against bad actors.
    • Michael Edwards (Legal Aid): Expressed support for the general goal of tenant protection but criticized the exclusive reliance on self-attestation. He proposed three options: random sampling of self-attested units, rolling inspections, or mandatory third-party inspections, arguing that affidavits alone are insufficient for safety. He also opposed the current "local operator" rule if it allows out-of-state operators to handle emergencies.
    • Nathaniel Wilkins: Expressed full support for the registry and advocated for significantly harsher penalties for bad actors, including jail time and increased fees.

Discussion Items

  • Revisions to the Framework: Director Messer and Deputy Director Jones detailed changes made based on feedback. The new "conditional registration" status is triggered by 5 code orders (for 100 units or less) or 10 orders (for over 100 units) in a rolling 12-month period, targeting approximately 1% of properties. Conditional registrants must pay an additional fee and submit to third-party inspections and remediation plans.
  • Fees and Costs: The proposed fee was revised down to $20 per unit with a $3,000 maximum (previously $40/unit, $5,000 max). Conditional registrants pay an extra $250 fee plus $20/unit. Deputy Director Jones clarified that fees are restricted to program costs (software, staff, enforcement) and cannot go into the general fund.
  • Inspection Models: The revised proposal eliminates mandatory independent inspections for the 99% of non-conditional properties, allowing them to self-attest that major critical systems are working. Third-party inspections are reserved for the conditional tier.
  • Local Operator Requirements: The city clarified that properties with 10 or fewer units do not need a formal local operator but must identify an emergency contact. Owners must identify a local operator within a 100-mile radius, though Ohio real estate license holders are exempt from the distance requirement due to state licensure accountability.
  • County Registry Comparison: Staff and Councilmembers clarified that the city registry is not duplicative because the county registry lacks enforcement authority, has limited data collection capabilities (no emergency contacts for care/control), and operates under a different statute that precludes municipal enforcement mechanisms.
  • Transfers of Ownership: A key change ensures that remediation plans and conditional status are inherited by new owners, preventing owners from evading accountability by transferring properties to new LLCs.
  • Compliance Rates: Staff cited Cleveland's compliance rate at approximately 60% and projected lower initial compliance for small landlords (25%) but hoped for higher rates for large complexes (75%).

Key Outcomes

  • No Final Decision Made: Councilmember Bankston confirmed no draft legislation or final budget is ready for a vote.
  • Continuation of the Process: The council committed to a third hearing near the top of next year to review further revisions and potential draft legislation.
  • Ongoing Dialogue: The council reaffirmed its commitment to continuing stakeholder engagement and listening to feedback from both proponents and opponents to strike a balance between tenant safety and landlord burden.
  • Acknowledgment of Discrepancies: The council acknowledged the significant disagreement between the city's view of the "bad actor" threshold (orders vs. violations) and the landlords' view that the policy unfairly targets them, agreeing that more data correlation is needed to bridge the gap.
  • Timeline Adjustment: Councilmember Bankston acknowledged he will not meet his original aggressive timeline due to the complexity of the feedback but committed to getting the policy "right" before implementation.

Meeting Transcript

Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us. We will call this hearing to order. Thank you for joining us for the second hearing on the proposed creation of a city rental registry. I would like to thank my colleagues who have joined me as well as our Department of Development and Building and Zoning for the work they've put in since uh the last hearing. On September 16th, I held an initial hearing to discuss the proposed creation of a rental registry for the city. Since that hearing, our office has received dozens of emails, letters, and phone calls from residents, organizations, and property owners expressing their comments and thoughts. We've also done some, I think intentional engagement with folks directly as well. Based on that feedback, our Department of Development and Department of Building and Zoning made several changes to the framework of the proposed registry. But before jumping into the presentations of the changes, I would like to just remind everyone that we are still in the stakeholder engagement phase of this process and welcome continued feedback as well as what as we continue, excuse me, to tweak their framework of the registry. And so I just want to clear up some things. There is no legislation. There is no predetermined outcome. We are really engaging with folks. And so I look at this room tonight and I'm thankful because this is part of the process as having a discussion of how we get to a solution that works for Columbus. And so I want to thank everyone for being here today. Again, we currently do not have any draft legislation prepared, nor do we have a full uh proposed budget for the registry just yet. So again, we are still in that stakeholder and discussion phase. Before we move on to our directors, again want to acknowledge my colleague, Councilmember Otto Beatty, and see if there's any opening comments that you would like to offer, Councilmember. No, thank you. Those are the briefest opening remarks of any council member ever in the city's history. So I appreciate you. Uh so now I would like to uh pass the mic to Director Scott Messer with our Department of Building and Zoning, and also Deputy Director Hannah Jones with our Department of Development for the presentations. Directors, floor is yours. Good afternoon. Uh thanks, Councilmember. Um before I start, uh I just also want to introduce a couple other members of our team that are here. Ryan Kelsey from Building and Zoning Services and Graham Bowman from Development is here as well. Uh as a team, as questions arise, we're all here to try to answer them the best we can. Um but I do have a few slides to go through. Um I'll try to make it as quickly as possible to work through these slides and then be happy to answer any questions. So uh first of all, the first slide talks about our goals in this program is to establish an annual registration process for all residential rental properties. Um there are exceptions as we've talked about in previous uh conversations for folks who are on other licensed programs or registries, so vacant property, hotel, motel, short-term rentals, those are all covered under other uh license and registration programs. Um it'll help to provide the city with critical information related to the number, ownership, management, and condition of rental units and um the integration of a more proactive inspection process that we'll talk about in a minute that helps to respond to critical issues with some of our more troubling and problem properties. Stakeholder feedback. We want to just summarize a little bit of what we've heard so far. Um we've heard that uh there needs to be a focus on our problem properties and our bad actors without unnecessarily burdening a majority of the owners who are responsible property owners. Um the tier system that we originally introduced seemed overly complicated to folks. Um the fees were high uh combined with a self-inspection um requirement uh to bring in outside inspectors uh would raise costs. The local operator requirement would be difficult for some small out-of-town owners to comply with. Um the details that we had around uh self-assestation, the ability for folks to um self-inspect were um critical to people and proactive inspections uh are necessary for tenants who fear retaliation at properties with a history of code violations. Um that was all feedback that we heard from our original um proposal. So what I'd like to do is just go over some of the um summary of our revisions that we've made based on those. We created what we now call um conditional registration. This is how we were responding to the idea of focusing on our more problem landlords. And so what you'll see is that uh conditional registration is triggered by a uh rolling 12-month period uh looking at code enforcement housing zoning or health orders. For 100 units or less, um, five orders would trigger, and for over 100 units, 10 orders would trigger a conditional registration evaluation. Umresolved emergency vacate orders, failure to disclose accurate information, or being the subject of a criminal referral to city attorney for retaliatory action, may all put you in that conditional status. Um I just highlight down there there's an asterisk. When we talk about code enforcement orders, um I just want to highlight that that is not numbers of violations.

SUMMARIZED BY OPENPUBLICA AI
TRANSCRIPT VIA PUBLIC VIDEO
openpublica.com