Good evening.

Good evening and welcome to this uh September eleventh special city council meeting.

Um I'd like to call this meeting to order, but first, before we begin the agenda, I'd like to take a moment, uh, a moment to take a moment of silence to recognize all the people who were lost on September eleventh, two thousand one, but also all those people who have been been lost by the victims of senseless violence.

A moment of silence, please.

Um, at this time I asked the clerk to please call a roll.

Councilman Campopiano.

Present.

Councilman Banano.

Present.

Councilwoman Graziano, present.

Councilwoman Horrian.

Present.

Councilman Andujar.

Present.

Councilman Ritz.

Present.

Councilman Trafficante.

Present.

Council President Wall.

Here.

At this time, I'm going to entertain a motion to take the agenda out of order.

So moved.

Second.

Any discussion?

There be a none, Clerk, please call the roll.

Councilman Campalpiano.

Yes.

Councilman Banano.

Yes.

Councilwoman Graziano.

Yes.

Councilwoman Horyan.

Yes.

Councilman Andugar.

Yes.

Councilman Ritz.

Yes.

Councilman Trafficanti.

Yes.

Council President Wall.

Yes.

Um, the first item we're going to consider is under new business.

It would be the appointment of Amelia Vizeri uh to the city council as a citywide member, filling the vacancy that was created by the resignation of citywide councilwoman Jessica Marino.

This is pursuant to the city charter section two point zero six titled Vacancies.

I would like to make a motion to approve this and nominate Amelia Vizari for the appointment of the city council citywide seat.

I like to second that, Mr.

Chairman.

The motion has been made and seconded.

I see Councilman Bernardo's hand up.

Yes, I just want to relish in the last twenty-five seconds that I'm the youngest member of this body.

Enjoy it, Councilman.

Thank you very much.

Would any other member of the council Councilman Traffic?

Yes.

That's what being a councilman is all about.

Community service, serving the people in your particular water or at large.

But let me give you some sound advice.

When in doubt, you speak to your mother.

Because Emily has extensive friendly service going back to 1990, when I first was introduced to her as a young, uh young attorney.

She served my administration quite well during those years, and I I wish you well uh as a councilwoman uh in the future, now and in the future.

Thank you, councilman.

Would any other council member like to make uh comment this evening?

I see none.

Uh I just would like to add my own two cents on this.

Um, I have known uh this candidate, Amelia Vizari, and her family for a number of years.

I'm proud to uh support her nomination for this appointment tonight.

Um listen, we all looked over your resume.

Amelia is well educated, she's got a degree, she didn't in, I believe it's marketing, MBA.

She also runs her own consultant business, has a fine position with local business.

Um she was a great athlete at Cranston West and still is involved in athletics with coaching, and she's also involved in various community organizations.

Um she certainly brings a skill set that I think will benefit from on the council.

Um she'll definitely be an asset, but even bigger than that, coming to know her that uh she's a person who believes in in public service in giving back.

So I I certainly will be in favor of uh your your appointment this evening, Amelia.

If there is nothing more, I'm gonna ask the clerk to please call the role.

Councilman Campopiano.

Yes, Councilman Bonanno.

Yes, Councilwoman Graziano, yes, councilwoman Horrian, yes, Councilman Anduar.

Yes, Councilman Ritz, yes, Councilman Trafficanti, yes, Council President Wall.

Yes, congratulations.

So I'm gonna ask.

You do solemnly swear that you will be true and faithful unto and support the constitution of the United States, this state, and support the laws and constitution thereof, and the home rule charter and ordinances of the city of Cranston, and that you will well and truly execute the office of which you have been appointed, or until another be engaged in your place, or until you be legally discharged therefrom, so help you out.

I don't congratulations, congratulations, councilwoman.

Um the next item in business we're gonna speak we'll we'll be covering will be public comment.

Now I remind you this is public comment on docketed matters only.

If any member of the public would like to speak this evening uh on Dockered Matters, please step up to the podium, state your name and address for the record, and be heard.

Well that was easy.

Okay.

I guess my speech will be anticlimactic now.

I I I was I knew uh Amelia was up for this position, and I wanted to speak on her behalf.

Uh like I said, I'm 73 years old.

I have never in my lifetime can I remember ever missing an election?

I am definitely not a Democrat.

I am definitely not a Republican.

I am an independent voter.

I vote for the person.

I I knew Amelia as an athlete, the way she handled herself as an athlete, the way she represented herself, her family, her school.

She coached for me.

I saw the role model, the way she conducted herself in front of her athletes and the role model she was to her athletes.

She's intelligent, she's well spoken and immersed in community activities.

Like I said, I um definitely an independent voter.

This is one young lady I will support wholeheartedly.

I don't even know what party you are.

Is she does she have a party?

You haven't declared yet?

That's fine.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Would any other member member of the public like to speak?

I see the mayor is approaching the uh voting.

Kenneth Hopkins, one fifty seven Kearney Street in Garden City, Ward Six.

And that's the message that I want to give to you tonight.

Welcome.

Welcome to the city.

Okay.

I've known her for a long time.

She's a great athlete.

She's a great coach, Trath.

Another coach.

That's just what we need.

Okay.

And we're going to worry about the kids for the for the rest of my term.

So you're a great addition.

God bless and good luck to you.

Are there any other members of the public who would like to speak on agenda matters only?

I'm seeing none.

Is there anyone online who would like to speak on agenda matters?

So at this time, I'm going to close public comment, and we're going to move on to our last item of business is just the update regarding committee membership.

And it's a it's a brief update.

It's only concerning our newest councilwoman uh Syri.

She will be a member of all five committees.

Okay, including the the two that will meet tonight.

Okay.

Um, and it looks like there's no further business this evening, so at this time I'll entertain a motion to adjourn this meeting.

So moved.

Second.

Motion is made and seconded.

All in favor, signify by saying I.

Motion carries.

This meeting is adjourned.

Thank you.

Works committee meeting to order on Thursday, September eleventh, twenty twenty five at six thirty PM.

Can I please get the clerk to take the roll?

Present.

Housewoman Bazeri.

Present.

Present.

Councilman Heroyan.

Present.

Present.

Here.

Thank you.

Approval of meeting minutes dated August fourteenth, twenty twenty-five.

Can may I get a motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

Second.

Any discussion.

Seeing none, Clerk, can I get the role?

Yes.

Yes.

Past woman Bazeri.

Yes.

Pasmananduhar.

Yes.

Paswoman Heroyan?

Pastor McGraziano?

Yes.

Pass President Wall.

Yes.

Thank you.

There are no committee business matters being carried over at this time.

So we're going to head into public comment.

Any of the public in chambers that would wishes to speak on docketed matters only.

Will they please step forward, state your name, address?

And you'll have a few minutes to speak at this time.

So I'm looking for a motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

Yes.

Hasman Andrewhar?

Yes.

Housewoman Heroyan.

Yes.

Yes.

House Panel Wall.

Yes.

So the next item is a petition for an Arragansett Electric and Verizon New England Inc.

for installation of new poll P9021 and P9020-50 on Wellington Ave.

I've been made aware by the DPW director that this was approved on August 14th, 2025.

So no further action is needed at this time.

We are going to move on to council communications.

And the first item is President Wall for 45 Poplar Drive.

And this is related to rat and rodent issues at the apartments.

We're looking for update from the administration.

Just a little background before I allow you to step up to the uh the podium.

This is an issue that was first brought to my attention and also uh Councilman Venano's attention in April.

Um generally uh the director will tell you that I usually bring uh some AV materials uh to some proof of the situation.

Um it's a it is an ongoing problem for the people who live in that those two buildings that are at that address, as well as the neighbors around there.

And last week, last month rather, for prior, um, I requested, and I'm so glad to see uh someone from inspections to to and uh you know enlighten us a bit.

So I I'm certainly would love to hear what you have to say this evening.

You're gonna go first.

Okay, director.

Yep.

Council President, um uh Anna Marie Marquetti, who's with us this evening, she'll be here in a second.

Um, you know, just wanted to personally be here to uh share any input that she has.

Uh, take any questions and you know thoroughly vet this.

It's a significant issue that has been going on on uh going on for several months.

Um anecdotally, uh myself, Anna Marie and uh Gina Capuano were uh at that facility today.

We just stumbled upon uh randomly.

There were three residents who came out, spoke with us, and happy to report that they are reporting to say they do believe from that limited uh sample uh that the situation has greatly improved from particularly before.

And I think one of them even said in the last uh uh two or three weeks haven't seen any any act active activity, if you will.

Uh, not to say there isn't.

Um, but uh we peruse the entire properties, if you will, and uh Anna Marie could explain it, but you know, we first focused uh on uh is it pop uh Poplar Drive, uh that dumpster area, and then we kind of migrated over, you know, for getting better educated uh into the around the corner at 125, I believe, hillside, and then towards that uh sloped area closest to the uh former Applebee's um and inspected that area.

Anna Marie was out earlier this week, I believe she'll uh share with you.

Um, and yeah, there's a lot of rat holes, if you will.

Uh there's a lot of uh rat bait uh bait stations that are there.

Um she has been working with the management company there.

Uh she's actually asked for document documentation to show that the management company has hired a contracted a uh uh pest control company that they're actively and currently uh addressing and rebating the property.

Um so I'll let her leave it to the details, but I just wanted to kind of set the table.

Um that uh her efforts and uh we'll leave it to Anna Marie to come forward and uh she is the best uh housing inspector that the state of Rhode Island has, and we're happy to have Anna Marie with us quite hello everyone.

Any questions that you may have?

Well, I probably have a lot because I I spend, but why don't we cover the the rat hole issue?

Um when I went out there, and the director will tell you um I was visibly frustrated after three months on the docket on the public works docket.

I went out there and I saw about 15 rat holes in front of one property and five rat holes in front of the other.

And I want to know why they're still there, I'll be honest with you, because I believe if I'm not mistaken, even the state of Rhode Island, their rat mediation document for their inspection says rat.

I don't, and I didn't bring it with me.

It has to do with getting rid of their habitats.

And I assume that hole is what you would call a rat habitat.

I did discuss with the um the management company.

Um there, yes, indeed, there are holes there.

Oh, your microphone.

I'm sorry.

Um, yes, indeed, there are holes there.

Um, they when I first received the complaint, started addressing the issues, worked with the management company.

They do have a pest control company that's hired.

They are the professionals um uh, you know, and and go by industry standards as far as baiting and and and what materials to use.

Um so that kind of started everything.

They do have a man uh company that comes.

They have set um bait boxes.

Um I have been told that they will be reassessing the holes.

They have to leave the holes open because of part of one of the treatments that they give um for a certain period of time.

Um, and they will be reassessing that on the 18th.

So and I'll ask you this, only because have uh having read the Rhode Island guidance, um, and I I make no I don't represent that I am uh you know, a pest expert.

I've just just what I learned on the internet and what I snooped around.

When do the holes go?

That's what I want to know.

Well, that would be up to the discretion of of who the professionals are.

So, as the city, we enforce the property maintenance um codes um in regards to it.

And and they're very basic, that they're the minimum standard.

So it just states that you can't have an infestation.

So that's that's what we go by.

It states you can't have an infestation, and with that, then we you know tell whomever the property owner is is that you have to get a professional company right to come in and work throughout their standards um to alleviate the problem.

And and they are making those steps.

And I'm not trying to be combative, but if the professional company, the vendor, maybe they come from out of state, and they don't comply to what's within Rhode Island standards.

I mean, is that something we look at?

Um I'll be honest with you.

The people who go come through Garden City and they see those holes, they are not pleased, being one of them.

I'll be honest with you.

Can I ask you one more question?

And I don't look, I'm I don't wish to be combative or to put you on the hot seat.

That's not my intention.

I I'd like to know.

Um the second property where there was a significant number.

Did you must have gone out after I I had spoke to director, I assume a significant that I took pictures?

Had they done anything about those?

Because I'll tell you the truth, there were less holes in the first property.

There's two complexes on one property.

This there was a significant decline in the number of holes.

So they did fill some in, and they left three to five um up.

Did we you check the second property?

Because yes, you mean midpoint between I mean with the right in the middle part, correct?

Well, yeah, with the it goes all the way to where where I believe is it is it the uh rectory of the church next to it?

One property, the property one that goes along Poplar Avenue is considered 43 pop law.

Yeah, the other property that goes on midway that fronts midway is 125 mid now.

According to vision appraisal, and they're both on the same law.

They're actually the same law on that thing and the same property.

So I that's what it was listed, and that's how I listed on the agenda.

Correct.

So that's the information I have.

So when I I actually brought my visuals, I showed everybody what what I wanted.

So did you guys have a look at that?

Oh, I've been to numerous times to both properties.

I walked the properties um to see exactly what the situation is.

Um, and numerous there are there's been different holes.

Um from what I've have viewed, the two main areas are along that Poplar Drive, where the dumpsters are, where that green utility box is, and then in that middle area between those two buildings, that seems to be where the holes are.

I walked all the other property, I walked all around.

We did not, um, Anthony, you know, and Gina also were there uh for other sets of eyes to uh to to look to see for holes.

Okay.

Um I did suggest that in speaking for the management in speaking to their pest control company that um they should maybe discuss with them uh putting some additional boxes out, but I did not see signs of holes on that other side.

Okay.

I appreciate that.

Um so I'll relinquish my time because I don't want to monopolize it.

Um, but I I could go on for a while, unfortunately.

I'm gonna recognize Councilman Bonano.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Uh thank you, Ms.

Marketti for being here.

I might I'm gonna ask some questions that we already discussed on the phone.

The purpose is to put it on the record, um, as I'm sure you understand.

Um first of all, I want to say that you know the issue was significant, and uh once once the uh director Moretti and uh the mayor's office got involved, it seemed to accelerate.

Um so if we're looking at some positive, that that's positive, you know.

Um I think council president wall, we had a you know, he and I and many officials had a meeting and it began to accelerate after that.

Council President Wall mentioned that the habitat destruction of the of the habitat was you know key in uh eradicating a rodent problem.

And when I visited the property, and I literally do drive by it every day twice to go to work and to come home from work.

Um but when I stopped there, uh to me, the biggest issue was the trash receptacles.

When I first stopped there, the trash receptacles were uh unable to be closed, they were situated in such a way that you could not shut the door.

The door to the dumpster was basically jammed in between the dumpster itself and the hinge couldn't swing up because it was too close, it's too close to the fence.

Um when I went back a second time, uh, this is a few months ago.

Um the dumpsters were made out of quite hard, but they were made out of resin.

They weren't, they were plastic and they had cracks in them, and rats or some sort of animal had bored holes into the dumpsters.

So even if the residents in there, I'm sure there's human error, but even if the residents threw their trash away properly, the rodents could get into the the dumpsters.

And if the dumpster door was closed, the rodents could get into the dumpsters.

So my question is has how has that been addressed?

Has that been addressed?

Were they cited for improper trash?

Were they given a uh chance to clean it and then they did?

So what's going on with the trash receptacles?

The receptacles, um, they were cited um for the uh for the receptacles themselves.

One has been changed out, one still as as I viewed today, still has holes and is has broken parts to it.

It it does close.

It was closed today, and the area around it was clean.

Um, however, it does have a couple of holes in it.

So I did reach out to the management company today.

They said that a purchase order, um, a purchase order was placed with the company to replace it.

They were going to check with them again.

That was done, she said, probably about three weeks ago, and they assumed that you know it that the company would have already addressed it, but they were going to reach out to see when exactly the company was going to come change it.

They didn't know if it it was on back order or okay.

Um and you know, it's not your fault that the the trash company takes apparently more than three weeks to get a dumpster there, but and wouldn't you agree that that that's not helping matters?

So I think everybody would.

So what it what is the mechanism for speeding that up as far as the city is concerned?

Yeah, there's uh in my eyes, right?

It's not acceptable that you've done your job properly.

That that is acceptable.

It's acceptable that you've done your job properly.

Once you do your job properly, it's not acceptable that it takes that amount of time for somebody to comply um with what you've said.

So how do we rectify that?

That's that's gotta be we work under the state property maintenance code, and it's clearly outlined what the process and procedure is through that.

Um, and it's it's notification process, it's making sure everyone gets notified.

Um, after that, if compliance is not made, it's then continues on to municipal court for possible fines.

Um, you know, ultimately our goal, I think, has always been to try and get compliance and and work with work with homeowners and and companies to uh to achieve compliance.

So I think I think you know that that is fantastic that we, you know, we should that's how it should be done.

You know, homeowner has an issue, you try to work with them and get it rectified.

I mean, I I would just say that at some point, um, especially with a commercial property, at some point, some of the leniency has to um you know be used within the you go by the code to the book, you know, and my concern is that because of that uh inferior refuse receptacle, we're gonna start drawing rats from all over the place, and they're gonna they're gonna really live in that area.

So it's not your fault, and I'm not saying it is.

Um I'm you know, I think I think you know, like I said, once it accelerated, I think the inspections office has done a fantastic job.

We had a great conversation about the property.

Um but we gotta we gotta do something to make sure that that you know an infestation uh doesn't reoccur after it's been eradicated.

So um I would like to see something done with those trash receptacles more quickly.

That's that's what that's what I have to say.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I I'm gonna just paraphrase here um and like offer my opinion um for councilman Wall and Councilman Bonano.

So I think what they're both looking for is when you're citing somebody, you say, okay, I cited them on May 2nd, 2022.

I gave them 30 days to comply.

Okay, 30 days from that is June 2nd, 2022.

And if they don't comply by that date, then you have a an inspection um and make a determination.

I mean, I I don't know if you can do that, but that is a practice that I do.

So essentially I create deadlines if you're legally allowed to do that, and those deadlines are set.

So if they're lapsing from those deadlines, that would trigger then possibly movement to municipal court.

I I'm not telling you how to do your job.

I'm just saying I think they want to hear dates and times.

I think they want to hear that we issued it on this date.

We gave you 30 days, they either met expectations or didn't meet expectations.

And if they didn't, for some reason you gave them 14 more days, and then what that date is, and then where you would actually draw the line and move them forward to municipal court.

And correct me if I'm wrong, if that's I mean, you know, if I may, um at some point with everything, you know, enough's enough, you know, and and uh and I give credit to the inspection's office and trying to work with the public and trying to work with them to to avoid fines and ensure compliance.

But you know, if for years we've been hearing about the rodent problem, Cranston, and we gotta, you know, it's we can't eradicate it totally as a city council.

You can't eradicate it totally as an inspector, but we have to all collectively move towards doing something uh to eradicate it.

And if we don't all do it, it's not gonna happen.

So I you're right.

I would like to see some sort of if you want to give leniency, hey, you know, good.

If if there if there's a good faith effort, you know, then hey, use your discretion.

If there's not a good faith effort, or you know, I was a property manager for a while.

Okay, the rent's due on Tuesday.

All right, I'll have it on Friday.

If I go there on Friday and it's not there, now I begin to get upset.

You know, it's okay if we go from Tuesday to Friday, but once it's not there Friday, I begin to get upset.

So that that's all I'm trying to say, you know, at what point do we stop using that discretion?

And I think with this particular property, we're probably at that point, my my opinion.

Uh President Wall.

I'm not gonna restate what Councilman Bonano said.

And also I appreciate the work you do.

It has nothing to do with you, Ms.

Market.

But I I think the system is definitely failing us right now.

And if we're saying in June, we looked at their trash receptacles, and now they're almost done in September.

We have we haven't find them cited and brought into municipal court, it's failing because I I'm not gonna go into the biology of a rat again, but many litters of rats have been born during that time.

One of the dumpsters has been replaced.

The other one I can't verify where whether it has or not.

The whole has definitely gotten bigger.

The first time I saw it, the hole was not as big.

I think and and this is uh what would I say, and I don't want to sound callous, but in this situation, we we've got a lot of a lot of rodents in our area.

I'm not telling you news.

Um perhaps we're being too kind to some of these commercial properties.

We don't cite them.

Um we're not making it so like they couldn't get a new, they couldn't get a new dumpster.

If I needed a new dumpster, if I needed a dumpster in my home, they would drop one off in five days.

And they're a client.

So I think maybe we gotta pull them into municipal court quicker.

And I don't know if you need ordinances that that are stronger or something like that, but it doesn't seem to be working.

Well, there again, like I said, we work under state property maintenance code, not under city ordinance.

Well, I I'd like to also work with a solicitor to find something stronger, whatever we have to do because it's all well and good.

But listen, I think we we probably can agree that these people in this room have heard me say this stuff since June.

And we're kind of I think we're both saying the same thing.

It's kind of done, but it's not it's not your fault, but it is unacceptable.

I and also that would be as far as the dumpsters, as far as the rodents, right?

That's the dumpster.

That's just the dumpsters.

That's just the food source.

Because as far as the rodents go, they are addressing the issue of the infestation by a licensed professional pest control company.

But on one hand, and I'm not gonna like one hand, they're saying I'm killing the rodents in there in their habitat, and the other hand, they're saying, but I'm leaving the buffet open so new rats will come in.

They're coming.

They listen, they survived millions of years almost unchanged for a reason.

They'll find their food source.

We gotta make it a little more difficult.

So if they get a hole, I'm done being sympathetic to they can't find the dumpster.

People around them not sympathetic.

We're not talking about Mrs.

Mrs.

Smith who's on a fixed income.

We're talking about a pretty significant company.

Find them, pull them in.

I mean, if you need better or and and I I'm all for and you'll see this evening later on, creating stronger ordinances, you know, and hopefully it complies correctly.

You know, I'm sure I'll talk to the solicitor on that matter.

Um, but I appreciate everything you do.

And I the my frustration is I as I often mention to Director Moretti, it's not directed at you, but it's still frustration.

And by the way, that frustration comes to me in emails, phone calls if I see someone on the street.

All right.

And I thank you.

I I have nothing to do with you.

That's councilman Andreha.

Ms.

Market, thank you so much for your service.

I mean, you're doing a great job over there.

The only question I have is why are the trash um trash receptacles or dumpsters?

Why are they plastic?

Should um is that just something the I have no idea.

There's standard dumpsters from a dumpster company.

And I think I could ask this question.

Do you feel that on a commercial site like that there should be an ordinance or a law that requires them to have something more like steel?

They're the same dumpsters that are uh, you know, uh many businesses your standard dumpsters.

Thank you again for your service.

Thank you.

Um the chair, director Moretti, go ahead.

Yeah, just uh perhaps that last question, I'm not sure.

Uh Director Corello is here, not sure if he has any expertise uh as to the as to the materials, if you have anything to say.

Is this a good idea?

Director, if you could just take your name and address, you know.

In case you don't know who I am, Frank Corral, director of public works.

Um it's a great idea to have an ordinance where you can put that requirement on the businesses.

Obviously, it's got to be less expensive to go with that composite type material, and that may be why they're doing it.

I'm not aware of any other reason why they would use plastic versus a metal dumpster.

Thank you.

Yeah, and and speaking uh with with uh Miss Market, um they have been cited, they've been cited for the infestation.

And you know, correct me if I'm wrong, please.

I believe she feels as they're making a um diligent effort to remediate the problem with the infestation.

She's that that realize uh this department doesn't have the expertise.

They have like these are licensed uh contractors, licensed rotor control people, just as if if there is a building going up, a skyscraper, any building, that our inspections department, not necessarily the engineers and the experts in the field, but they rely on the uh engineers, the the uh uh proof that the that the construction is is to code.

And so and so that's an analogy to say that um she needs to, as long as it's a valid legally licensed company, um she has to rely on that.

So uh because they are not the experts, just as if our building uh inspections people, uh building officials are not necessarily the expert on various types of construction, but they require a can they're outside contracted by the applicant.

Um and she has cited them for the infestation, and she has cited them for the dumpsters.

Apparently, she is you know, there has been the one fix, and it is frustrating absolutely if the other ones cracked and has not been it's getting to the point of why not like you folks are identifying, but you have her word that she is following up.

And I believe she mentioned that there's a purchase order uh to have that installed.

So uh I'm sure she will be she'll be on top of that.

Another thing I did we observed, and then we heard from the neighbors, what exacerbates the problem is the neighbors in the area walk their dogs and there's dog feces there, and we witnessed that someone wraps their bag and they throw it towards a dumpster, and it's not the it's not the management company, it's not the people, the residents there, it's the neighbors who are uh uh makes the problem worse.

So you can't every time a dog poop bag goes down, you can't necessarily necessarily can't expect anyone to be out there immediately monitoring dog poop, but they get out there and and the the residents do in the in the in the management company.

So I have some empathy to the situation, but unfortunately, Director Bernardo said uh human engineering is very, very difficult.

Director Moretti, do you guys do um like social media and communications?

Because I actually have sheets already made up on dog poop.

So I can send them to you about people cleaning it up if you guys want to put it out in social media.

Councilwoman, we'd be very happy to hear about your dog poop.

I'll send it over.

There yes, it's like a it's a big thing for stormwater and the rat issue.

And so we've made up flyers um that can go out into social media.

I look forward to it.

Thank you.

Okay, enough of enough of that.

I just want to may I say one more thing.

Okay, just to get off the dog poop.

I don't know.

Um I I do you know wanna say that uh without Inspecti's involvement?

I don't think this would be as far along as it is, even if we're you know debating whether or not it's far long enough.

Without her involvement, it would not be as far along as it is.

So that that um needs to be applauded in the conversations that I had with her, extremely competent uh and willing to cite and willing to uh try to get something accomplished.

So, you know, while we are all frustrated, um, you know, I think that doesn't that's not mutually exclusive from you doing a good job and being here.

So thank you.

Okay.

Thank you, everyone.

Next item on council communication is councilwoman Heroyan and Graziana.

We are looking for update from Director Correo on the Budlong pool.

Thank you, madam chair, and welcome, councilwoman Vazari.

You'll have a lot of fun.

I'm sure.

Uh yeah, I I do have some positive news.

It may not be as good as dog poop, but I do have some positive news relative to the the pool.

Um, as I spoke last time, we we were moving along quite well as it relates to the interior of the building.

They are continuing to put up all the toilets, the partitions, the painting, the flooring is done.

They're working on air conditioning units and heating units, and uh everything along that area is moving well.

We do anticipate that the completion of that interior facility will be done by the end of this month.

Now, as it relates to the exterior of the pool, you know, we've been moving along.

We were able to get to a point where we started the excavation for the pool itself.

But just like anything else, we did encounter a differing site condition.

We found a small layer of peat, which is an organic material that's underneath where the pool is going at the deep end, and as a result, it's a very unstable soil.

So we did reach out to the engineer that's on the project with us through Caputo and WIC.

We had them take a look.

They hired SW Cole, which is a geotechnical expert.

They reviewed it, they've come up with some recommendations.

They have since given us those recommendations.

We've worked with those, we've uh concurred with what they're proposing.

And what we're doing now is we're working with the contractor to give them that scope and to receive a price from him to continue that excavation so that he can remove that peat layer, bring in some additional material, and then continue with the actual construction of the pool itself.

Are they gonna be doing any geotechnical borings or no?

Well, there's no borings, you don't need the borings because we were doing an excavation.

You could actually use the excavator to open up a pit and you could see the soil layer, which is about a four to eight inch layer of peat.

For some reason, when they built the original pool, that must have been what the original ground was to some degree, and they just covered it over.

We didn't encounter it towards the deeper end where we excavated where the deep end of the pool was because that was at a 10-foot excavation.

So that material came out, but right now that layer is at about six and a half to seven feet below grade.

Are you guys still on track for um next spring completion for outside?

Yes.

Yes.

We will be swimming by July 1st.

I won't be the first one in the pool because it's a little cold for me, but there will be people there.

Wait, it's not heated.

I we have to check with Director Moretti on that.

Okay, so did you have a final date in the spring?

You said end of April.

Is that is that's when we're going to begin because it the the what the work that has to take place then is really going to be the tile work and the plaster on the interior of the pool, and that's temperature sensitive.

So depending on when those temperatures are, and I believe it's around the 40 to 50 degree range.

That's when they can do that, and then we have to put water in it immediately.

That helps cure that plaster, and then they'll continue to do the flat work above the pool, which are all the aprons.

Um, I've gotten a couple questions with regards to the budgeting.

Can you just for the record confirm we're all set monetarily with the completion of the pool and and funding?

Yeah, uh good question.

I I believe I mentioned it at a public meeting.

These change was happening, what they ran into because of that aqueduct and this PEET, if you will, this PEET issue, uh, likely that these change orders are likely to uh cause uh uh an excess uh uh need for funds um uh to uh to the extent I don't have a number, um, but that's what the director and the finance director uh have indicated because we're asking that same question because it was very tight.

Um so we are assessing it.

Um it's not in the millions of dollars, and uh maybe Director Crayo can actually give an advance uh heads up to all of us as to what it may it may run at this point, pending no other no further major change orders.

Yeah, right now we're running in about 8% change order for the project, so about 8% over budget.

There is plenty of money in the current pool of money that we're utilizing to continue with the construction of the pool, but as we get closer to the end, as we get to do some of that material, materially finished work at the end of the project.

Yes, there will be a need for some additional money to be able to complete the pool.

So we are currently the administration's waiting to know where we stand that's being assessed at this time.

Okay, so you right now you have two change orders.

Uh there have been several change orders, some larger than others.

But yeah, as we've been going along, we've been encountering a number of differing site conditions or unknown conditions that are above and beyond what the architect would have been able to predict.

Um just for example, right now we're approximately at 400,000 worth of change orders.

Right.

Wow.

Just to give you some order of magnitude.

You thank you.

I appreciate that.

Um, so you know, given that, I wish I had the crystal ball to say what else are we going to encounter with the interior of the building, they're pretty much done and set.

We don't anticipate anything else with that, but as we go forward with the pool, if we can just get out of the water table and get to the construction of the pool, everything else should be relatively known because everything is pretty much above ground at that point.

So it's just construction of the pool and backfilling and everything, which is already accounted for in the contract.

Okay, so um some of the questions I get, thank you.

I appreciate that.

Some of the questions I get are like this was, and don't forget I wasn't here last year.

But like some of the questions I get are like this was funded by ARPA, and that money is supposed to run out by the end of the year.

No.

So I need to be corrected on that.

Sure.

Um the uh I'll say the budget or the allocated approved funds, four million dollars in ARPA funds, and seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars in in a federal uh congressional grant.

Um those are the two two funding sources.

like this was and don't forget I wasn't here last year but like some of the questions I get are like this was funded by ARPA and not money is supposed to run out by the end of the year no so I need to be corrected on that sure um uh uh the uh I'll say the budget or the allocated approved funds four million dollars in ARPA funds and 750 000 in in a federal uh congressional grant um and those are the two two funding sources uh so hearing what we have now uh we're gonna be asking the finance director to see do we have any oh oh to answer that last question ARPA funds need to be uh uh used by December 31st 2026 I believe the last uh person who spoke on that publicly was uh incorrect to say 2025 um so he'll be assessing uh all the opera projects uh about there's been several projects that have run under budget we don't hear about those so much but uh the the uh the finance director would be tasked with determining uh what his recommendations going to be for and in determining where uh available funding could come from and uh we can certainly uh need to and should be keeping you advised yeah I I think the the council would appreciate being advised where the 400 000 is going to be coming from so thank you so up next is I I added the splash pad I um here just to like so everyone can comment on how they feel like the public outreach meeting went I apologize I wasn't there I had kids stuff um but I would love to hear how everyone think think it went and and what you believe moving forward.

Yeah sure I sat next to you in spirit at last night's meeting councilwoman the um it was it was an uh there was an excellent meeting in the sense that uh the the input uh was pretty unanimous pretty pretty much so I uh certainly a strong consensus of and of the two young people that spoke in the audience and and and uh except one person in the audience was opposed to uh a splash pad um in a splash opposed to a splash pad period period okay and uh would rather just have a pool um there was uh uh uh an adult in the public supporting the pool because of the uh at the pardon the supporting the splash pad at the Budlong pool um given the infrastructure that's that's there and um and amenities that are going to be there such as the bathhouse that will have lockers showers uh uh toilet facilities um and the uh councilman andha uh certainly would like it in war three as he expressed but um paraphrasing that uh he understands uh you know uh it it to be uh the logic uh for having it at the at the Budlong pool complex and then there was uh other than that it was pretty much unanimous support from the other members of the council and also uh two young ladies uh like about that high um were in favor at the Budlong pool that was that was the public info input no one was online so it was sparsely attended um but in a way it's a the takeaway was a strong message that um it will be an extension of the uh uh an adjunct to the budong pool and I think in the the selling several selling points where that we're gonna have a a water park virtually between the pool the splash pad and it it's really gonna be a real wonderful facility and very family oriented because the targeted aid groups as the director of uh public work uh uh pox are rec indicated that target is typically for age four to twelve for the splash pad though any any of us can can use it certainly um so we so we really envision the mayor really is happy with the input that we received and that's going to be the answer uh but to have it there again we talked about uh we have the already built in the amenities that I I suggested um so cost wise it'd be work uh um uh uh it should be the most affordable in that sense there's uh 250 000 allocated in ARPA funds um we don't know uh for the uh I'll say the construction of the pool the um uh the uh toys or the apparatus and the electronics have already been purchased I think the number was in the 125000 plus or minus range and uh those uh paid uh from ARPA funds uh so depending on what the bids come out at you know we'll see what the what the cost is um but uh and also if you think about it if if this is at a separate location staff uh probably require incremental staffing whereas staffing is already at the pool in the terms of uh supervision is kind of built in so um the well but very nice comp uh uh water park complex uh at the you know at Budlong and uh in the timing of that is that there was foresight with this the pool actually to say that someday the vision would have been to put a splash pad uh butting it so the it's already included in the cost of the pool if you will the I'll say the plumbing and the elect and any electricity uh the the connection mostly the plumbing to be able to just connect to uh so the infrastructure will be there uh to to just uh add the splash pad to this so what we anticipate is having the pool in the splash pad open at the same time okay

So the it's already included in the cost of the pool, if you will, the pl I'll say the plumbing and the elect and any electricity, uh the connection, mostly the plumbing to be able to just connect to uh so the infrastructure will be there uh to just uh add the splash pad to this.

So what we anticipate is having the pool in the splash pad open at the same time.

Okay.

Thank you so much.

Thank you, Councilman.

Anyone else?

Um councilman.

I just want to say for the record that um the fight isn't over yet.

We have a new councilwoman and um the residents of ward three and especially around the stadium area are gonna solicit heavily Ms.

Vizeri for her support to move the splash pad over to stadium.

So just want to let everybody know it's not over yet.

Okay, councilman Capapiano.

Thank you, Chairman.

You already have splash pad.

I want to circle back to the pool just for a second.

Uh after we discovered so many issues with the ground and the foundation of that pool, it's no wonder why we had so many problems with that pool for so many years.

I'm happy to see it being addressed because properly with modern technology to get this done so we can join many years to come.

So it was the right decision to take this and take it and make it new and go forward.

So I want to thank you for all your work.

Correct.

And and again, the biggest problem was the groundwater.

It's significantly high there.

It's probably at about four feet below grade.

When you had a ten foot depth for the pool that was there before, that's a lot of water pressure on that pool that was built in the late thirties.

I don't think they ever believed or encountered what the stresses would be on that type of uh pressure due to the water.

So yeah, right now we're accommodating that.

We're putting in French dreams, we're putting in some pumps, we have well points out there, hopefully to try to control that water level and to try to reduce the pressure of that water against the pool.

Perfect.

Thank you very much.

Okay, anyone else?

All right, can I get a motion to adjourn?

Oh, so move second.

Okay, all in favor, say I posed.

Okay, we're adjourned.

Ordinance will begin in two minutes.

September 11th.

It's uh seven twenty-eight p.m.

I would like to call the ordinance committee to order.

Clerk, may I have a roll call?

Casma Campicano.

Here.

Councilmanano.

Here.

Councilman Vazieri.

Here.

Councilman Graziano.

Present.

Councilman Heroyan.

President.

President.

Pass the president Wall.

Here.

Thank you.

Approval of minutes.

So looking to entertain a motion to approve the minutes from the August 14, 2025 regular meeting.

Motion to approve.

Second.

Clerk, may I please have a rule.

Councilman Vazier?

Yes.

Councilman McGraziano?

Yes.

Council McHarrian?

Yes.

Yes.

Council President Wall.

Yes.

Thank you.

At this time, there are no um business matters carried over.

I am entering into public comment.

Is there anyone in the crowd that would like to speak?

Please say your name, address, and I'll give you four minutes.

Thank you.

Uh, for the record, my name is Robert Murray.

I'm an attorney with the firm of Tafton McSally at 21 Garden City Drive in Cranston.

Uh here tonight on two matters.

Um the first one's just a housekeeping item.

Um pursuant to your rules on ordinance number eight-25 uh 2501 regarding the housing court.

I did send a letter of uh to the committee at the appropriate time.

I just asked it to be made part of the record uh pursuant to your rules if the committee sees fit.

So um the letter speaks for itself.

I have nothing more to add on that.

The um we are here principally tonight on uh ordinance number seven-2506, uh, which is a change of zone application and petition uh for property at 1764 Cranston Street, uh 1746 Cranston Street.

Um let me take a step back and welcome councilwoman Vazieri.

Um I am one of I'm not as old as Councilman Traffic Cany.

Um but uh I am getting there.

And uh when I worked in the young as me either, just so you know.

I understand when I worked in the mayor's office in 1980.

Uh I dealt with your great grandfather, Frank Aglion, and your grandfather, Mike Merry Legion.

And I obviously know your mother uh as a fellow attorney, so welcome and congratulations.

So I just wanted to uh extend my uh best wishes to you.

Um the um the ordinance before you this evening is a change of zone for the property that is owned uh by the SETO Family Trust.

It's in Knightsville, pretty much across the street from uh the Eatree Park, um uh which we've all come to admire and uh as a as a new and exciting part of uh Knightsville.

Um we are here tonight asking the city council to rezone a parcel of two lots, uh lots two eighty-two and two eighty-seven on plat 11.

Um it's existing zoning, which is C5, which is a heavy business industry zone under our zoning code, to C2, uh, which is uh classified as a neighborhood business zone.

Um principally uh the intention of the owner and applicant before you this evening is to develop this long-standing vacant property for multifamily housing, specifically condominium use, and uh because that's not allowed under the current zoning.

We're asking the city council uh to rezone it to the C2 uh designation with uh with me this evening.

Um there are two um the property owner is a CETO family trust, and I I don't I can't see on the board whether that uh Scott Asseto's joining us.

He's out of the country.

Um he may it's the middle of the night where he is, so I I understand why he might not be here, but uh with me this evening is uh Richard Bacari, who's one of the applicants.

Uh Mr.

Picari is known to this council in the city as uh uh principal of Churchill and Banks, a well-respected real estate development and property management company, and he is partnered with the ACEDO family to bring uh this project uh to life if the city council uh approves uh the underlying zoning tonight.

I also want to note with me this evening is uh Eric Zwaina of ZDS Architecture and Interiors.

Uh Eric is one of the most uh dynamic uh architects in our state and region, and uh I was just complimenting him earlier.

I noticed he's uh just been selected to redo the the Rhode Island Airport, uh, his firm.

So uh he's worked on many great projects, and uh he's excited about working with uh the Acido family and Mr.

Bacari on this project.

Um we have some slides on the screen, which we're gonna call up.

Eric's gonna speak to you in a minute, but um while we're just as a prelude to that, with your permission, Mr.

Chairman.

Um, could I just pass out some graphics that are on the screen there?

Mr.

Banana Councilman Banana could share those with the committee, and uh I have a copy for both the administration and uh the city clerk.

Uh it's a series of three slides, which uh we're gonna talk about in a moment with Mr.

Zoena.

But let me just back up for a minute.

Before we came here this evening, um Mr.

Bacari and Mr.

Acido uh embraced the idea of having a neighborhood meeting with uh some of the neighbors, and on August 27th, uh we held we invited everybody uh uh within the radius of uh who would get notice for this meeting um to come to St.

Mary's Feast Society Hall, and we had a good turnout of local business people, some property owners, a few elected officials, some planning commission members, and it was a good exchange of information and comments and ideas, all of which hopefully we'll be able to incorporate going forward uh in this project.

So Mr.

Bakari and Mr.

Acido were there as well as other members of the Acido family.

Uh I can't do justice to this the history of this property, but um the theos have had this property.

Um Scott Acido's grandfather and mother, uh grandmother bought this property about 50 years ago.

And there is a four-unit mixed use building on the site, uh right at the um northwest corner of the site along Cranston Street.

But the rest of it, it's a total of about uh uh 89,000 square feet, uh, is largely vacant.

It is uh bordered by Cranson Street uh to the uh west and to the east, uh the Washington secondary Cranston bike path, and up on the opposite side of the um bike path is the industrial zone.

Uh I refer to as Murad Street, Calder Street, uh Palmer Avenue, uh, a long-standing industrial zone.

So um there the this property um uh uh there are other C2 properties in the area, and I I have uh a zoning map.

I think it was part of our submission.

If you need uh if you need it, I can uh I can also share that with the committee.

Why don't I do that?

As you're looking at that, uh we have um uh you can see the dark purple is the industrial zone, and the the peach or uh pink area is the area zone C2.

So um the use that zone is in the area, most importantly, under our city's comprehensive plan, um the rezone of this property to the C2 would be consistent with the comprehensive plan.

Uh you have before you from the planning commission uh a positive recommendation on this zone change.

Um we appeared before them um on September 2nd and uh was well received that evening by the planning commission, and they voted to send a positive recommendation.

This um uh this is an opportunity for uh to bring new housing, obviously, into the Knightsville community.

Um I don't want to uh go on about the need for housing.

Um, but uh this is uh an opportunity to take this property.

You know, there's been opportunities to develop this for you know industrial or business heavy business uses, which the ACETO family has kind of resisted because of their long involvement as stonemasons and their history in the construction business.

They envisioned this Sunday uh to be uh developed for housing, and they were excited to partner with Mr.

Bakari.

The um the existing four unit mixed use building on the site today will be integrated into the ultimate development.

Uh and the slide before you on the screen, that first slide is a conceptual plan.

Uh uh, we are asking your permission in the ordinance to uh build an ad up to 36 units, including the four unit building.

So it'd be an additional 32.

What you're looking at there is one of Mr.

Zwain's basic concepts.

There's about 30 units on that one plus the existing four.

So the zone change, and I just want to run through them uh quickly.

The this is zone we're proposing to rezone it to C2, but with conditions.

This is very similar to what the city council previous councils did on the Cranston Printworks, um, where we kept the industrial zone, but the council rezoned it to allow the multifamily uh apartments that are soon to be uh blossoming at that location.

It's very similar to what the council did uh with the Knights Corner project across the street from the print works, where the city council its owned industrial, and you gave permission to build up to 160 um apartments on that site.

Uh so there is precedent for this to work with the we're gonna retain the uh we'll we're gonna rezone it to the C2, but with with the following conditions.

One, that we can build up to 36 units, including the existing building.

Um we are asking you to allow us to uh implore or utilize the dimensional or intensity regulations that are allowed in the C3 zone as opposed to the C2.

Uh the reason for that for development of the site, there's a little more flexibility in the C3 zone, particularly with respect to front and side setbacks.

Uh so um that's part of this ordinance.

Um we're gonna provide two parking spaces for every residential unit on the site.

Um but the most significant uh portion of this ordinance for your consideration is the applicants have our uh in consideration of allowing the density requested here to uh provide an affordable housing component of up to 15% of the number of residential units.

So um that is something that was has been welcomed by this the city's housing commission, the planning commission, uh the house the state housing plan 2030 is really pushing Cranston towards number one.

I think that the goals are going to be very hard to achieve, but increase the number of housing units and the number of affordable units.

Uh so this is a project where the developer um is not being your work coming forward and offering that up to you um as part of the overall approval.

The last thing I'm just gonna say is the rezoning tonight is just the first step.

Well, obviously, you're you'll recommend to the city council, hopefully.

Um the adoption by the city council at the end of the month would be the first major plank to make this happen.

We would then have to go through the city planning commission as a major land development project, like all other projects.

So it uh it's more than nine units, it would be a major land development, and that's when we would get into the the detail uh uh to take Mr.

Zwaina's vision and Mr.

Bakari's vision tonight and really put the uh put the pedal to the metal and make this happen.

So uh this is just the beginning.

You're a critical part to it.

We hope you support it.

And with your mis uh permission, Mr.

Chairman, I'd just like to ask Mr.

Zwayn just because there are a couple other slides here.

Um he can talk about the European villa concept we're trying to create here.

Um with your do you have questions?

You want to um no, I think we'll do that when we present your your case.

We're we're I'm I think we're if you let him speak, we're done.

If that's all right.

Last questions later.

Yeah, that's fine.

Good evening.

Uh Eric Zlena, managing principal of ZDS Architecture and Interiors uh offices in Providence, Rhode Island in Washington, DC.

Z-U-E-N-A.

Um before I jump into the project, I just want to say that this is you know really humbling to be working on this site for a number of reasons.

But you know, uh grew up in in Cranston in Knightsville.

Uh my family, my father, uh West Bay Medical, who's a surgeon here for my entire uh childhood growing up.

Uh, me and my three brothers all graduated from St.

Mary's School, uh, all got married at St.

Mary's Church.

And uh we're all um really happy with what you guys have accomplished in E Tree Square.

It's really really impressive.

So you guys should all be very, very proud of that.

Um I've been visiting the feast every year since I was a little child.

Um this site though, and you know, and then also my father was a partner in the restaurant right next door to this site.

It used to be called Luciana's restaurant, and that was named after my grandmother.

And uh my first job was at a dishwasher, was a dishwasher there.

And I used to stare at this site on my brakes, trying to figure out you know why it was vacant for so long.

And um, you know, here we are.

So it's really truly an honor.

So thank you.

Um, this site plan was uh done with the help of Depree Engineering to just lay out very statically and very conceptually uh what the density could look like, which we think is very reasonable uh for the size of the lot.

Um and uh Churchill and Banks with uh ZDS, uh, we played around with these six buildings trying to get the right organization to make sure that we were doing a couple of key things that we think are important for the success of this property.

One is to not make this feel like very standard modular looking row houses that all look the same, but instead to create a village environment that was peppered with great hardscape, landscape, lighting, great arrival points uh to create great senses of arrival for guests of people who own these properties.

Uh obviously will have a great sense of ownership, and people will be using these as their personal residences, but also using this neighborhood as a very pedestrian-friendly commercial corridor where they can you know enjoy great perfume in Cologne next door, uh plenty of pasta bologniers, um, all great opera food opportunities up and down Cranston Street, but all the great amenities that this small Knightsville village has.

Um we wanted this to feel very pedestrian, and and this sketch or this site plan doesn't do it justice because it's only a conceptual plan.

So all the gray color that you see representing what I would consider various different types of hardscape, uh, just looks like a lot of asphalt.

So I don't want you guys to um to think that that's our intent.

I think it would be best if we went to the third slide.

Uh, I asked Mr.

Bakari if he would allow my team uh not to just present a simple site plan, but also give us an opportunity just to give you a very, very loose, very conceptual idea of what this could be.

And um the import some of the things that are happening for us in our studio when we're developing these sketches very quickly is you know, we want this to be very uh welcoming to the general public at the street at the sidewalk, and this existing structure that's there is going to allow us to do that because there will be some sort of uh public small light FMB experience, maybe a small marketplace, something that will allow people leaving, coming and going from Eatri Square to walk up onto a front stoop, uh, be welcomed.

Uh maybe even I I would I look at the flower shop just two doors down, but just think of that kind of you know, sprawling uh retail opportunity on steroids at this existing building.

Uh that's going to be a wonderful uh welcome sign to the general public, but also the synergy through this space as a pedestrian from Eatree Square to the bike path is also something that we think is one of the key um things that need to be accomplished to make sure that that people feel welcomed through this site.

And these 30 units, all again, not trying to do just very modular, straightforward unit after unit after unit, but you'll notice in the sketch that there's varying heights, there's varying textures.

There's there's a there's a there's a language here that represents what we would call a European villa or a European village.

Uh, and we think it's perfect uh for uh next door to Etrus Square, uh, where obviously it's not it's it's not yet perfect.

In my mind, it's perfect, uh, but we'll we'll make it perfect together with your support and feedback and the community support and feedback.

And Mr.

Murray uh mentioned we started uh talking to the neighbor neighborhood uh members and uh had a meeting and it was very well received, and we look forward to your feedback too.

Uh, you know, from a materiality standpoint, not your typical vinyl siding and uh shingle roof, but instead, you know, a stucco or parged uh uh facades, uh decorative uh shutters.

Uh actually the slide right before this is sort of just giving you some imagery that talks about the placemaking that we'll be doing with exterior materials, hardscapes, uh landscapes, lighting, and and things of that nature.

So um I can get caught caught up in more details of what this property means to us and me personally, but instead I'll stop there and try to answer any questions that you may have.

Thank you.

Is there anyone else in the public that would like to give public comment on docketed items only good evening Nicole Renzuli, 54 Massachusetts Street in Cranston.

First I wanted to say congratulations to the new councilwoman Amelia Vizier.

We have worked together in the past in coaching and I look forward to working with you as a planning commissioner as well.

Tonight I am here in support of the housing court proposed ordinance 82501.

I'm here not in my capacity as a planning commissioner but just as a resident of the city and I appreciate this forward thinking approach um because I believe the specialized court would help streamline the enforcement of the current laws that we have and reduce the burden on our general court system.

I think the my experience in the past as a councilwoman every year um when we do the budget we do see that the the fines that come out of the the housing court line are very minimal and I don't think that that is due to a lack of effort but because our current system lacks the infrastructure and the tools to to adjudicate and enforce the current laws that we have on the books.

So I think that Anne Marie needs some more help um in inspections and the court needs some more help as well with um a dedicated focus I do want to note that while I do agree with the core framework of this um ordinance I think refinements do need to be made to align with the state law and clarifying um what we can do with our city charter the jurisdictional boundaries and ensuring uh fiscal transparency and that um all the money does go through the finance department so I do think that this will help us with affordable housing and holding corporate buyers of housing which I believe is one in four uh houses are now bought by out of state corporate corporations I think that that will help us um commit to safe affordable living for all of our residents and also help the departments the hardworking people in our departments thank you thank you is there anyone else in the audience Mr.

Clerk is there anyone online that would like to speak Chris Populas please state your name address and you have two well you you have all the time in the world Mr.

Representative thank you for chiming in you have yourself muted Mr.

Representative do you have me now?

I got you we see you loud and clear thank you uh Chairman uh Andrew Har and honorable members of the city council uh Chris Papelaskis state representative for district 15 in Cranston and I reside at 14 Highland Street uh in our great city um before I get going I'd also like to extend uh best wishes and congratulations to the newest member of the council uh councilwoman uh Vizieri um look forward to working with you in my capacity as a state rep and anything I can do to help you or the other members of the council please uh feel free to reach out at um any time uh I'm here to speak in favor today of uh ordinance number seven twenty five oh six which is the presentation you just heard from Attorney Murray um as someone that represented the Knightsville neighborhood for a decade um I wholeheartedly support this project um the fact that it's coming from two great developers one uh the ACETO family which is a legacy family uh that has vested roots in Knightsville and Mr.

Bacari who I'm sure we've all seen his projects over the years um this is really going to be an exciting opportunity to bring third up to 36 units uh into that neighborhood where we do need some some housing um what's great about this project is too is all the work we've done in the area recently with e tree park and making the neighborhood more walkable um this is going to fit right into that wonderful uh neighborhood that we have there so um I don't want to take any more of your time I just want to say that I'm in full support of this ordinance and uh look forward to that uh Italian villa style apartment uh that we saw on the the screen there and uh I think it's gonna be great for the for the city so that's all I have thank you for your time thank you Mr.

Representative Mr.

Um we're gonna start with seven-25-06 ordinance and amendment of chapter 17 of the code of the city of Cranston 2005 entitled zoning.

This is a change of zone for 1746 Cranson Street.

May I entertain a motion to approve.

Second any discussion.

Mr.

Chairman.

Councilman Campomona.

Thank you, Chairman.

Uh let me stop by saying I am 100% in support of this uh coordinates.

I attended the uh the community meeting that we had at St.

Uh Mary's Fee Society, and I was blown away by the energy in the the whole proposal.

It was absolutely beautiful.

It's a wonderful addition to that area, the way it backs up to the uh the bike path, the architecture, everything.

And that to address the issues we have with housing, this is a wonderful wonderful way to address it.

Uh it's it was well thought out, and it's it's got some great history to it.

So I I love the idea and I just am looking forward to this coming to fruition and seeing it to its completion.

I do have one simple question.

We talked about there may be some commercial aspect of um to what I don't know, coffee shop.

Would we have to go through another change or anything?

Would that go in with the same ordinance?

No, under uh through the chair.

Um, under the C2 zoning, the neighborhood business, there are probably 30 or 40 uh individual uses ranging from barbershops to coffee shops to uh you know varieties.

So we we would anticipate any mixed use in that structure would comply with the existing zoning.

So uh we will it will be part of the permitting process with the planning commission.

But if the council rezons seat two, I don't anticipate having to come back here.

Perfect.

That makes it even better.

So thank you very much for effort.

Thank you for the time you put into this, and I'm looking forward to come true.

Thank you.

Air traffic anti.

Bob, I want to first of all congratulate you and your team for having a the community meeting first.

More contractors did that, it would avoid a lot of heartaches in the future.

Um, but I I want you to know that um I am totally supportive of this particular project since I represent ward five.

I like the fact that you put a lot of thoughtfulness into development of an atmosphere of a village uh type atmosphere.

Uh it's going to go well in that particular area.

Uh like I said, uh if you uh need any assistance in the future from uh Mr.

Council members, I'm certainly going to be there to support you in this project.

Thank you.

Councilwoman Graziano.

Thank you.

Um thank you, Chair Anduhar.

Um I have a few technical questions.

Um so I want to I'll first start with the easy stuff.

I want to say thank you.

I do really appreciate we need more housing in Cranson.

There is no question we need affordable housing.

I fully support the intent of this.

But um, this is 2.1 acres.

You need a NIPD's permit with the EPA.

So because you exceed one acre.

So I'm wondering this is a concept plan.

I would like to hear a little bit more about how you plan to manage storm water on the site.

Well, um, I'll give you a non-technical answer, but I've been doing this a while.

Uh as you know, councilwoman, um we have not yet gone even to the master plan stage.

That will be issues, Mr.

Correa's still here.

Um, those are legitimate issues which we will have to deal with um through the uh planning commission process.

The um the ripkeys permit you're talking about, I agree we would need one.

Uh those we would be required to produce is at a preliminary plan stage, not even the master plan.

But if the zone change goes through, I think the uh Mr.

McCar and Mr.

Asido's plans are to turn everybody loose to get this going.

So um the development of how how you're handing stormwater and things like that are all legitimate questions.

It's a little premature tonight to answer it, but it's something I know we'll have to deal with.

Okay, because you're gonna have to keep everything on site.

It can't be okay.

You can't have any discharge illicit discharge into the town system.

Um I'll just comment and say, I'd love I want it on the record.

I'd like to see green infrastructure if you're gonna do this max amount of units.

I know I'm sure you're gonna want to use subsurface infiltration systems in order to achieve this amount of density, but I'd really like to see some type of infrastructure, green infrastructure, rain gardens.

You can infiltrate your roof runoff.

It's clean, you don't have to meet the total suspended solid numbers.

Um I would also like to see some landscaping being native to Rhode Island.

That would that would really impress me.

Um, and I would use it as an example in my in my PowerPoint presentations if you guys did that.

Um then just just a quick note the traffic study will be done at the planning board level.

Um, I'm gonna come to the planning board meeting and say all these things again.

Uh councilman Bonano.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um Mr.

Dwayne I went down memory lane a little bit, and uh I'd be remiss if I didn't say that when my family came here from Italy in the late 1800s, they settled directly across the street at 1755 Cranston Street, and uh built the house that stands there now in 1925.

They moved a house from the street back that was Nemaya Knight's tavern.

Um my mother sold it.

It was owned by my great grandfather, my grandfather and his sister, and then my mother and my mother sold it in May.

Um, I could tell you a lot about the history of that particular site.

It was a business called Atlantic Tubing, where they made uh copper and uh plastic tubing, and then it was a dump for a very long time.

And I remember as a little kid standing out of my grandfather's porch looking at this really old washing machine that it's gone now, but it it was there for quite a few years.

So this is a vast improvement over the whatever washing machine was there for a very long time.

Um, this has been uh a vacant property for many, many, many years.

Um, and I'm glad to see that the spirit of the neighborhood uh is is continuing.

Um I I wish I was uh I think I might have been left off because of open meetings laws, but I wish I was able to come to the the meeting at St.

Mary or I missed the email.

I wish I was able to come to the meeting at St.

Mary's and and uh and hear more about it in greater detail.

But I am also um intimately familiar, probably more than any other block in the world with that particular block, and I'm really happy that this is going to be improved in this way.

I know you guys have a lot of homework to do, but with the team that you guys have there, I am extremely confident that you're gonna do it and do it right.

And uh, based on the renderings, um, what an improvement.

As far as the technicalities of it of the zoning, I the property that my mother owned um and family members before that was zone C5.

Yet there was never any heavy commercial there across the street.

This is the exact sort of same situation.

I don't know why any of the properties along Cranston Street is on C5, because you have mixed use with multifamilies with a with another mixed use with probably 19 restaurants and 77 hair salons all along those.

Not none of it's heavy.

So this just absolutely passes not only the the test of what planning recommended, but it also passes the common sense test.

Um I really applaud you guys for bringing this forward, and you will have my support.

I do have a couple questions.

I'll probably bring up at the full council meeting, but uh at this point you have my vote.

Thank you.

Councilwoman Haroyan.

I will be in full support of this tonight.

I just have a question.

I'm a little clear, Fry here.

Is this condos that people will own or apartments?

Some will rent or mixed both.

Um planned will be the form of ownership, but not rental apartments right now.

It'll be condominiums.

They'll all be condominiums and they'll be purchased, not as rental properties.

The plan is to build them and sell them.

Councilman Ritz.

I'm not a member of this committee, but I'll just make a quick comment.

I think this looks fantastic.

Thank you guys for doing this.

I think it really fits with the area.

I think it really will boost up the area too.

So thank you, Bedona.

Any further discussion?

Well, I Mr.

Murray, I I have um two concerns that I'll ask at the council meeting.

The first one is if you could define um affordable housing versus subsidized housing.

So that's just something that you could talk at the council meeting, and as you heard in pre in the DPW meeting, um, the trash.

Like, what are you using for receptacles and all of that?

So I'm pretty sure at the council full council meeting, you'll address that.

So that's just I wanted to um point that out.

But may I entertain a motion to approve?

We have that.

Clerk clerk take a roll, please.

Yes.

Consulman Banano.

Yes.

Councilman Vazeri.

Yes.

Councilman Graziano?

Yes.

Councilman.

Yeah.

Consider?

Yes.

Yes.

Motion passed.

Um, next we are on.

Next, we're moving on to 82501.

But before we go there, I would like to.

I'm looking for a motion to enter into record a communication from Mr.

Murray and communication from a fiscal note from our finance director Zadellas.

So moving on.

Second.

Clerk, please take a roll.

Yes.

Councilman Gaziano.

Yes.

Councilman Heroyan.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Moving on.

Now we're moving on to 82501 ordinance and amendment of Title 2, Chapter 40 of the City of Cranston Code of Ordinances 220 2005 entitled municipal court, sponsored by myself, Councilman Woman Graziano, Councilman Bonano.

Uh yes, thank you.

Um at this point, um, I would like to make a motion to continue this until the next uh ordinance committee meeting.

Um for two reasons.

One is um uh I think uh Judge Judge Coya, who's in charge of the municipal court has previously engaged tonight, and he would like to be here to uh speak on it.

And I think that's a that's a prudent move.

Um, so uh I would like and uh in addition, I believe that there are some things that the sponsors need to get ironed out uh that we'd like to improve about this ordinance to make it even better.

So I would make a motion to um continue this until 92.

Um, where we may or may not have a special meeting, depending upon what the council is.

Councilman, can I suggest that you say tentatively because there could be a little flexibility in the say it that way?

Yeah, so uh tentatively 92 with final approval um lying within the council president and the chairman to call a new meeting.

So moved.

Second clerk, any discussion?

Clerk, can you can you please take a roll?

Conspecano, yes, council banana, yes, councilwoman Vazieri, yes, councilman Grassiano, yes, councilman Heroyan, yes, Consular?

Yes, President Wall.

Yes, moving on to 25-02 ordinance and amendment of Title 8, Chapter 8.36, Section 50 of the City of Cranston Code of Ordinance 2005 entitled duty of owner upon receipt of notice.

Sponsored by President Wall and Councilman Banano.

You have the floor, Mr.

President.

Thank you.

Um, you see, there's been a somewhat of a theme this evening, uh inspections, housing problems, things like that.

We had a great presentation.

Um basically what I did is I took a look at the current amendment, and I'll I'll tell you why.

And if we take our current situation with just the property we're speaking of, um it would look if I'm looking at the ordinance properly, we would only be allowed to cite this commercial property, an out-of-town commercial property one time.

Am I and you don't have to, unless I'm reading the ordinance right.

What I want to I did is amend it, um to make make the fines come along a little more rapidly, maybe give them a little more um incentive to come in line.

So if you look, I amended it in the second paragraph of 8.36.05, where it's where it once said if the premises did not uh did not were not in rat proof condition or still in a condition that may permit rat infestation, the owner shall be fined accordingly in an amount no more than 50 dollars.

So if I'm reading it correctly, and I'm sure the solicitor can help me with that one.

If I'm reading this correctly, this situation that has been ongoing situation just in front of the public works committee since June, approximately oh god, almost three three months, four months.

We would have fine, it's no wonder they don't do anything.

We would have fined them $50.

I'm reading it correctly.

Um so I just didn't think that was up to date with the what I would say is the issue before us.

So I added amended it to say per day until the director of public works or or designee determines that the premises is in a rat proof condition, or no longer in a condition conducive to rodent infestation.

So all of a sudden, although I know they make a great deal of money, there's a little bit more financial incentive to fix their garbage.

So all of a sudden, although I know they make a great deal of money, there's a little bit more financial incentive to fix their garbage, they're uh their dumpsters, so the the rodents don't have a consistent food source to get their professional rodent um rodent killers in for lack of a better you know for so be honest with you before we cited them, then the people who lived inside that building and around that building complained consistently, and that would go complain not to us at first, but also complain to the owner of the building, which we're not party to.

Um at that point, when I became involved and Councilman Bernano came involved, then the ball started rolling.

But that ball is slow, and the truth is I I think a little financial um incentive may be a good thing.

Um on the bottom, I also added, you know, I trust out a little bit there, and you can see if the rodent infestation is not eradicated within 30 days, the property owner shall be cited and made to appear before the Grandson Municipal Court, um, which is hereby authorized to impose mines that shall not exceed $500 per violation.

I see that as a pretty strong uh maybe not earth shattering, but a strong, you know, strong incentive for them to do right by the neighbors.

Um that's who I represent, and uh that's why I put it forth.

It's pretty plain and simple.

I'm making the fine stronger now in my in my ordinance, and I I don't know, I hope all of you will consider supporting it.

I know the neighbors in the area would be pleased if you did.

Council Babanano.

First of all, thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I would like to uh thank the president um for including me uh on on this ordinance.

We worked together on the particular issue um uh at the property we talked about time and time again.

You know, we're we're all here for these meetings, and time and time again, we've heard from the solicitor and the administration about you know, we got to do something about some of these fines, we got to do something about some of these ordinances and make them stronger and more modernized in order for them to have teeth, in order for some uh outcome to come out of the citations and whatnot.

And this is step one in doing that.

So um, you know, this is like I said, the first step in many of some stuff that we're gonna do, hopefully, to um to modernize and to make uh the fines more in line with the offense and to incentivize compliance.

Um, because when you say 50 bucks over 30 days, 1960, whatever, when the charter went into effect, that was or when the code went into effect, that was a lot of money.

It's not so much anymore.

So um I think uh you know we're headed in the right direction here, and I hope my colleagues will uh support this ordinance.

Thank you.

Thank you for that presentation.

May I entertain a motion to approve.

Uh before we do, I just I wanted just I love council president.

I I love what we were going with this, I really do.

I just want to make sure as I'm reading it, I I think we need to be on the same page because paragraph two, if you will, from 35 to 39, speaking about rat-proof conditions, and that's a separate fine, and then the following paragraph speaks about the infestation, if it's not eradicated, and that's a different fine.

And I think we kind of have to be on the same page for that, because I I wouldn't want, for instance, um inspections to go down there and say, yeah, it looks like everything's done and it's in rat-proof condition, and yet they haven't been able to fully eradicate, and then it turns out that that's a defense that they've made it rat-proof, because that's added in the in the second page.

So I just think we the language needs to maybe be tweaked a little bit consistent.

You say saying that they're not consistent from paragraph one to paragraph two.

Yeah, because in other words, the same term in page whoever um this was written, God, um, I don't have that, I don't have the notes of when this when this ordinance was originally written originally, but it's probably a while, and that's it's probably years.

Page two, a finding by a municipal court judge that the owner has made the premises a rat proof condition, shall constitute a valid defense.

So if someone comes in and says my concern would be if someone comes in and presents to a judge and the judge finds that it's a rat proof condition, then the language from 40 to 45 kind of might fall under that because that's talking about eradication.

Do you see my no?

I do.

And can if I did, and it looks like it's a handful of words.

Like in the second paragraph, it says if the if the rodent infestation is not eradicated, if you substitute the word um if the condition is not made rat proof, I think we would just stay consistent.

That's what I'm saying.

If rodent infestation is not eradicated, that I think that that language should probably say it is not rat proof because someone's gonna come in and say, Wait a minute, I was here 20 days ago, and Judge X said that the it's a rat proof condition.

So I have a valid defense from any fines.

So if you go to this, the the valid defense.

It's just the language needs to be just consistent, and that's all the fines.

I got no problem with the fines.

I actually I welcome this the what this is trying to do through the chair, if that's if it's okay.

Um do you think this is something we can fix here to this evening before we vote on it?

Or is that something we could I think my suggestion would be uh to pair this with the ordinance that we just put over to the to potentially the uh the 22nd, not just have it on the same calendar if we're gonna have a calendar.

Fair enough.

And and we can tweak, I can work with inspections and just tweak the language just to make sure we're all on the same page.

The fines I have no problem with the that issue, it's just more I don't want someone coming in and saying, Wait a minute, you told me it was rat proof, but therefore you're trying to find me for eradication.

I just think that that needs to be just cleaned up, just uh un poquito.

No worries.

Um if that's okay uh with the with the chair and and members of the of the committee.

I mean, we're still in presentation, Councilman Bonano.

Yeah, I was just gonna ask, and I think I think you've addressed through the chair, uh attorney Millet, I think you addressed it like what would you suggest?

But your suggestion is to is to hold up a minute, work with inspections and and just clean it up a little bit.

Yeah, just uh councilman Bonano, just so that the language is consistent throughout, because we jump from um the language being uh rat proof condition to eradication, and it's technically two different things, but the defense then falls under the affirmative defense falls under you've already been fined for rat proof, so therefore does that mean eradication, and we might need to just add some language or just keep it consistent throughout.

That's all I understand.

Okay, thank you.

I understand a motion to approve.

You haven't had a motion either way.

Oh, I didn't need to put it.

You're right.

Ah, so I know the director is the floor mine.

Or is it direct?

Um please to continue this to the next ordinance uh committee meeting, be it a special meeting or the then the soonest one.

Um the solicitor would be amenable in a short time, you would be able to take care of it by the next scheduled or discreet.

It's just simply I'm sorry, Tom.

It it's just simply rat proofing would be different from rat eradication.

You may you may you may have everything tidied up and be perfect.

So your points are well taken.

Yeah, and that's that's all I'm just concerned with.

The fines and everything is fine.

So I, for one, would be amenable to a motion to continue.

I don't know if my co-sponsor feels the same.

Yeah, no, I'm I'm I'm good.

I just don't want it to go like you know, like I said, if we say the rent's due on Friday, we're gonna have it by Friday.

I so I think the proper I think the proper motion is to withdraw the motion to approve and uh have a motion to approve to continue it.

Uh motion to withdraw.

With all due respect, Mr.

Chair, we don't have a motion.

No, so we can simply uh motion.

I'll make a motion to continue to the next, whether it be special or regular ordinance committee meeting, tentatively scheduled for 92.

I'll make that motion.

Second.

Any discussion?

Councilwoman Graziano.

Sorry, I wanted to ask a couple questions.

So the maximum amount they can be fined.

So if they're getting fined 50 a day, it only goes up to 500.

No, the maximum amount that the uh Crancy Municipal Housing Court can impose is 500.

The director of public works can issue fines 50 a day.

So if you totally ignore it, yeah it's in it's until you stop ignoring it.

It's two different sets of fines.

The musical court can only can only assign essentially uh through the chair, I'm sorry, um 500 bucks, and then the the 50 a day is separate, and that's imposed by the the public works department of building inspections and code enforcement.

Okay, and then my second question is do we need to define what wrap proof condition is?

I think that's what attorney Millet was was talking about, and that's what we're gonna clean up for the next meeting.

Okay, that could be contentious in court.

Sure, agreed.

I'm good.

Councilman Camponbiano.

Thank you, Chairman.

You still my question, so it's $50 a day to infinity.

Um with these fines.

Well, I mean, I'm reading it here.

$50 per day until the premises is in rat proof condition.

Right.

So it could be $50.

Yeah.

Well, right now we're four months in.

By the way, $50 a day, he might have changed his dumpster.

Yeah, well, I'm I mean, if it's uh if it's a property that's been abandoned or they're in the nursing home or something, and this can go on to infinity with these $50 a day, correct?

Yeah, yeah.

It could kind of like uh not to make an analogy.

I I'm speaking on a turn.

Do I have I I shouldn't be answering by all means, Mr.

President?

Through the chair.

Um, for instance, when we spoke of lawn acre, we've been this backed taxes on law and acre since 1991.

That law and acad drive property.

It goes until you know that those that those figures are still going.

Fixed the you know what?

I I think the bottom line is uh I have less sympathy for commercial, especially a commercial property that's not taking care of business.

So I I mean that's the way I I felt, yeah, that's exactly how I felt.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, I I have no sympathy either.

I just was curious, uh, the way it's worded, it's it's into infinity that they can keep finding $50 a day.

Um, and if the property owner is not there or if they can come back and owe two million dollars.

I'd like to hear from uh I I was hoping to hear from uh the director of public works on this, but uh since he left, um I like to hear from Emory and Zoe or either um director or either one how they felt about this and if they felt it was enforceable, and if they felt it was a step in the right direction.

Yeah, I I can't speak on on the public works director, but in the ordinance, perhaps one of the amendments that you know could be made is is it fall in an inspections or public works?

Public works right now has no authority to impose fines, or they it's not not what they do, so it's a consideration that might fall under the inspections department.

Um, though public works has their you know has our uh road control program, which is independent of this also.

Uh if you'd like to hear Anne Marie uh any comments that she has, sure.

Floor is yours, Madam Inspector.

We're trying to give you as much FaceTime uh as since you're here for the first time, we're trying to give you the most uh FaceTime before the council gonna really fill it up.

I I just wanted to know how how you felt about about this um ordinance.

Uh you feel it's enforceable and uh in the step in the right direction, or if it needs any work.

What's your thoughts?

Unfortunately, I'm just getting to look at it very quickly um this evening.

Um and I was discussing with um attorney malay that uh it should be under not inspections, but under as it is there, um the department of public works and rodent control because the professional is um Mr.

Quali, who has the position now, who is road control.

So I'm I'm confused.

So who who imposes the fine?

Does it is it from public control?

It would have to go through public work, so a manner of enforcement would have to be figured out for that.

Okay, so we're or addressed here, maybe something already on the books.

Okay, so okay, so we'll have to we'll have to address that.

And uh seeing that this is continued, I guess it's a good thing.

I look forward to your input and your colleagues' input on this to make this uh the best it can be because I'm hoping we're gonna go through one time and do this right, because this definitely is a step in the right direction.

So uh uh I look forward to seeing this uh at the hopefully the special meeting and get more input from uh different department heads and uh and get this done.

So thank you for bringing this forward and uh look forward to getting it done.

Thank you.

Councilman Bonano.

I was good.

Councilman Graziano has a question.

I was waving at her.

Just to answer that, it says or designee, which would apply to anyone public works designated.

So they have the power to designate someone to issue the tickets.

Sorry, I wanted to clarify that.

Councilman Banano.

No, I didn't hear what she was saying.

I um like I said, I mean uh well, I agree that the language should be cleaned up, you know.

I I think uh we're definitely in the right direction, and I um you know for as long as I've been paying attention to to politics in my adult life, uh, rats have been an issue, and you know, we heard it on the campaign trail in certain neighborhoods.

So uh, you know, this is this is a a good way to start to put some teeth into the issue, and like I said previously, you know, many many times when we're talking about this, whether it's full council or special council meetings.

Um, many times the um when we ask the question, well, what can we as a council do about X, Y, and Z.

The answer from uh people who know the laws are update your laws.

So this is this is one of the things that we're trying to do here.

So I welcome the you know, I welcome the input of everyone, and I hope we can get this uh better.

Um, you know, I hope it doesn't stall either.

Thank you.

Any further discussion?

Well, I I like to add my two cents.

I I really like this ordinance.

I just feel that it should be stronger and it should be 500 a day.

If you own a 30 plus apartment building, 50 a day, 30 days is 1500, which is nothing but fifteen thousand dollars.

If it was five hundred dollars a day, would be something, and I believe that they would act a lot faster.

As far as the inspections part, um, I believe it should stay in inspections, and maybe somebody from DPW should just visit the site, basically inform the inspections that it is road approved or it's not road approved and fine.

So I believe we can work all together in that.

And then at the end of the day, it's you know, quality of life for our residents.

I mean, they pay taxes, and we should be able to in turn to give them a good quality of life.

So at the present time, we have a motion to continue.

Um, and also before I end, I'm pretty sure what Mr.

Trafficant, Mayor Trafficanti's thinking that we should have people writing these for us, right?

Mayor, yes.

Okay, so I said it.

Um, so we have a motion to continue.

Clerk, can you please take a roll?

Councilman Capriano, yes, councilman, yes, councilman Viziery, yes, councilman Graziano, yes, Woman Heroyan, yes, and yes, President Wolf.

Yes, motion continued.

We have no uh council communications.

Now I guess we're gonna adjourn.

Um moved.

Second, all in favor say aye.

Aye.

Any nay?

Ayes have it.