I'm gonna call the public works committee meeting to order on Wednesday, May 6th, 2026 at 601 PM.

Uh uh clerk take the role, please.

Councilman Anduhar.

Councilwoman Vizier present.

Councilwoman Councilman Campo Piano present.

Councilman Bonanno.

Present.

Council Vice President Heroyan.

Councilwoman Graziano present.

Council President Wall.

Here.

Thank you.

Um may I get a motion to approve the meeting minutes of April 6th, 2026?

Motion to approve.

Any discussion.

Seeing none, can I get the roll, please?

Councilwoman Viziri, yes.

Councilman Campo Piano.

Yes.

Councilman Bonano.

Yes.

Councilwoman Graziano.

Yes.

Council President Wall.

Yes.

Thank you.

At this time there are no committee business matters being carried over.

Um I'm going to ask the public to have public comment.

We are going to start with public comment in chambers.

You can state your name and address, and you will have three minutes.

Um is anyone in chambers like to approach the podium.

Okay.

I'm going to close public comment in chambers and open it in online.

So can we see if there's any public comment online?

There is no public comment online.

It's for docket it's for docketed matters on the agenda.

Yeah, about something we're talking about on the agenda.

Yes, we're probably but this is for docketed matters.

Is that okay?

It would only be just it's only for those things that are on the agenda this evening.

If you want to make a public comment another time, we have a full council meeting correctly.

The 20th, I want to say.

But once it's on the agenda tonight, we can't take public comment.

We can't hear you.

I'm sorry, this is Virginia Lawton.

Virginia Lawton.

In your address?

21 Windwood Road in Cranston, Rhode Island.

So thank you for coming.

But this evening, um, I think Councilman Bonano gave you the agenda.

Did you know I didn't get it on the agenda?

Um if there's any m if you want to take a quick peek, if there's any matters on there.

New matters before the committee.

There are none this evening.

So we're gonna head to commouncil council communications.

Um I have requested um an update from for Budlong Pool Complex, and it sounds like this evening we have Director Renzuli who's going to give an update on the Budlong Pool complex because Director Correo is taken away on other matters this evening.

Hello.

So Director Correo, um, he's apologized.

I said he couldn't be here.

I needed to testify at the Senate tonight.

So he did meet with vantage builders today, and this is the latest schedule that they have.

Uh final grading for the pool apron is scheduled to be completed by the end of this week.

The pool apron concrete placement is scheduled to start the week of May 18th, and it's anticipated to take three to five days to complete that work.

Tile in the pool for swim lanes and changes in pool depth are scheduled to begin uh the week of um May 18th, and that's anticipated to take three days.

Placement of the plaster for the pool surface is scheduled to begin the week of May 26th and anticipated to take two days.

I'll also email this all to you so you don't have to frantically write it down.

Um once that work I just mentioned is completed, they will um take care of the pool filter startup and the chemical balancing of the water and then completion of the pool is anticipated for the last week of June.

All items are weather dependent.

Um I can say for the splash pad.

I did find something out that I think you'll appreciate, Councilwoman Graziano, that all the toys are actually touch activated so the water will not be constantly running that whole time.

Um and they have moved all the the equipment, the toys from parks and rec over to the bud long pool.

So when it's time to do that, they will.

And if anyone has any questions, I am hopefully prepared to answer them.

Okay, I am going to I have some questions, but I will look to the council first to see if any members of this committee have questions.

Looks like councilman Ritz.

I don't know if you'd have this answer yet, but do we have the hours and when it's gonna open?

Uh parks it'll open the first, it's scheduled to open the first week of July.

I don't know the hours off the top of my head.

Um, I do know that they were working on that as well as it might already be on the website.

I'm not positive within that department.

I know they did decide on the hours and they did decide on you know the fee structure.

Um I believe it closes at six, but I'm not sure what time it opens in the morning.

Thank you.

Okay.

Anyone else?

Uh President Wall.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Just if I didn't hear it, was it July 1 the opening?

And we're on the day always opens the first week of July.

Yep.

They anticipate that it should be completed the last week of June.

Yeah.

Hopefully.

That's all I have.

Um, Councilman Campepiano.

Thank you, Chair.

Uh, are we on budget?

We appear to be on budget.

We have a remaining balance of 626,000 approximately.

I was not given the information of what other bills need to be paid based on that money, but right now director Crayle said that we're on budget.

Okay.

Anyone else?

Um, okay, so I just oh, I don't have councilman traffic changing.

Quick question.

Is this all bond money or other monies involved?

There was, I can tell you there is four million dollars of ARPRA money, 750,000 of HUD money, HUD from the federal government.

Then I have another line that says additional ARPA.

That might have been allocated after the original $4 million.

Um, $341,000.

And then it appears to have for fiscal year 25.

Looks like bond money of 167,000.

And for fiscal year 26 bonding for 78,000.

And that must have already been authorized to have.

Okay, councilman rents.

That be in your email.

It will all be in my email.

Does it include the, you know, I know a lot about water?

Is the water going to be included in that too, or is that an operating?

I think that that's in that'll be in the operating budget.

The water, the lifeguards, the electricity, all of that goes under should be in your budget under parks and rec.

Whatever they're estimating, they would have had to complete that.

Okay.

Now I have more questions.

Okay.

Um sorry, you just said that you bonded out 78K for 2026.

Was that already approved, or is that something that we needed to approve?

I'm assuming that you would have had to approve that, but I was not here when you did that.

It just says fiscal year 26, CIP public buildings.

I know that's that's in the um capital budget.

78,000.

So it must have already been available because I didn't like go to bond for it.

Um I don't know what you guys voted for in your capital budget last year, or if it was left over from the year before, you might have had bud long pool multiple years.

I'm not sure.

I um be possible to find that out.

Thank you.

Um of my questions about the pool now.

I'm forgetting.

Um, so you mentioned the rain dates, um, which as we know can put us really far behind when we're doing construction, depending on the type of um weather we're having.

Um is there any extra time?

Did did Director Crayo tell you that if there was any extra time built into that timeline, or are we like pretty tight on time?

Well, he he said that you know just based on what he gave me, you know, there's complete weeks here and things within them can take are anticipated to take three days.

So without asking him, in my mind, if there's two days that it rains, they still have three in that five-day work week.

Um so something was three to five days, another thing was three days, another's two days.

So I that's what I'm hopeful of.

He said that if it got to the point where they needed to arrange for people to come outside of the work week, then he would have to have that discussion, which I would also anticipate would be more costly.

So we would like to avoid.

That sounds like a change order.

Okay.

Um, okay, I think that's all I have at this time.

Okay, thank you.

Next for council communications.

Um, this was council vice president Heroyan.

Um, but also um Councilman Capapiano had both brought this to my attention.

I um had requested that um vice president Heroyan take it over, and we were kind of going back and forth.

So I was a little bit out of the loop because I was off for a couple days.

Um so the next item is a presentation from Verizon regarding Camden Lane and Kendall Court.

Is there somebody here from Verizon that is planning to present?

Oh, I see you can approach the podium, state your name and address for the record, and who exactly who you're working for.

Uh Ross Billadu representing Verizon, New England, uh 21 Oxford Road, Mainsfield, Massachusetts.

Okay, so you're gonna give us an update on the work taking place on these two streets in Cranston, please.

Yes.

Um Ryzen respectfully request permission to lay and maintain underground conduits, buried cables, manholes, hand holes with the wires and cables to be placed therein, markers, other fixtures in or under the surface of the following public way, Camden Lane and Kendall Court.

We're looking to look for permission to place one new two-inch conduit for approximately 4,035 feet and 19 handle hand holes, starting at pole 16 on the corner of Hope Road and Camden Lane, and then continuing along Camden Lane and Kendall Court.

Uh purpose for this long stretch of conduit is to bring fiber services into that development that don't currently have because my understanding that funding is is coming from the Rhode Island uh pandemic recovery office as a part of the broad broadband initiative uh again to build out areas that are underserved uh with high speed internet.

Thank thank you.

Um and Tracy can correct me if I'm wrong.

It sounds like this needs to you need an application with with the city to do the trench work, and that needs to go before council, and then it'll be transferred over to this board.

So you would have to try to apply.

Can he even get on the 18th?

Yes, I have the petition ready to go on the okay.

It sounds like you submitted the petition, it'll go on city council for the 18th, and then it would not be on our meeting though until June 3rd.

Okay.

I would be expected to represent on the 18th.

Um, you do not need to come to the 18th.

I would encourage you, if possible, to either join on Zoom or come to the meeting on the third.

But in between that time, Director Correo will review the petition.

He's our DPW director, and he will make a recommendation.

If there are any issues, we will try to reach out to before the meeting.

Okay, sure.

Okay, and then Director Renzuli has something to say.

I I just wanted to kind of clarify something.

So Director Correo does already have all this information, and he actually suggested because of you know the depth of this project that they could come in to see you guys before they were actually on their docket, similar to because we're already doing this for um Rhode Island Energy because people have questions when they start doing this work.

So that was they're here at his suggestion.

So he is already communicating with someone, I don't know if it's you or not, but at Verizon.

Okay.

Um, Councilman Ritz.

Just this isn't my ward.

Um, not that I'm looking for people to give me complaints, but have we notified the neighborhood that this was going?

Yes, I have an abutter list.

They all should have been notified uh prior to this hearing.

So it's and with the trench, is it in the road or is it between sidewalk and the street?

I didn't know where with the trench was going.

There is no sidewalk, but it is going off the off the street uh via it's in the right away.

It's in the right of way, it's in the grass.

Um, so yeah.

Councilman Capitano.

Oh, thank you, Chair.

Um, well, Councilman Richard my questions, but I know we just paved well, I just paved Hope Road.

Uh we just paid Hope Road.

How much disruption will be in that area?

The pole off uh pole 16 is off the side of the road.

So again, we're just hugging that edge of curve uh edge of pavement.

We won't be touching the pavement.

Okay, that was my concern.

So none of the pavement would be touched, and even in the platinum of the pavement would be touched, right?

Anything that would have to go underneath pavement or driveways should be directionally bored.

And um, any of the residents in there that want get this, is it buried and brought to their house or is it above?

It would be buried.

There's no poles in the neighborhood.

Um so it's buried to hand holes, usually at the property corners.

Uh, somebody does call for service, the terminals in the handhole, we direct bury and drop over to the house once they if they have a call for service.

Okay, and how do you handle the reconstruction or if it's brought back to where it was before?

Yeah, I mean they'll have grass seed.

Moment seed, all kinds of stuff, yeah.

Perfect.

That's what we're gonna need.

Um, I don't know if Director Grenzuli can answer this, but um, just to piggyback on that for the public.

Is there a five-year moratorium on ripping up the road after it's been paved?

I I am not sure.

So we also do I'd have to ask Director Correio look into our regulations just in general, okay.

Yeah, this will be on the right-of-way, but just in general, you know, we cities and towns don't usually allow them to go in and rip it up within five years of paving.

They are supposed to schedule around around each other, but I I do think that the utility has uh a little bit more rights than us, as far as that goes, if if it's an emergency only, so this is not an emergency.

Exactly.

Um, and your trench is going to be like three feet wide, two probably not even that.

Not even that they put in with a ditch which so oh they do, okay.

Okay.

If if it is a trench, it's not gonna be any more than two feet.

Okay.

Okay, it sounds like the butters were notified.

We held this comment session.

Does anyone else have anything?

Okay, we're all set for now, but we'll be in touch if there's any issues and questions from the director.

Okay, I'll be back here on on the third, June 3rd.

Yes, please.

But not the 18th.

Not the 18th.

We're just gonna move you to the committee.

Perfect.

Okay, great.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Okay, next on the docket is Rhode Island Energy update for work, which is taking place in Garden City.

Um, is there anyone here to discuss that?

Please state your name, address, and who you're working for exactly.

Yep, I'm Roseanne Brusco.

I live at 14 Primrose Lane in North Providence, Rhode Island.

And I'm representing Rhode Island Energy.

Excuse me.

Yep, Brusco B R U S C OK, great.

We'd love to hear what Rhode Island Energy is currently um partaking in the area of Garden City.

And if you have specific locations like streets or uh a lot long, we would love to have those.

Yeah.

Um, so just uh first of all, thank you for inviting us here tonight.

Um, I'm actually joined by a number of members of our guest team here tonight, including our construction team as well as our engineering department.

Um, but thank you for the opportunity.

And as we need to address any specific questions, I'll just ask them to introduce themselves.

But we've prepared a little bit of an overview for you because this project has already begun, and we thought it would be a good idea um to just walk you through from a high level coming down into the garden city project.

So you have a better understanding of what's going out there going on out there.

But we typically work with different types of uh we have different types of gas work that we do.

Uh obviously we have new customer work, then we have emergency response work.

So this may include things like repairing leaks and responding to any odor complaints that we have.

But tonight we're really going to focus in on our planned projects.

So this is our infrastructure.

This is an infrastructure replacement project.

So here we are replacing aging infrastructure.

Specifically, this is what we call a low pressure to a high pressure type of scenario, and we're replacing specifically cast iron with plastic.

So as I mentioned, this is a planned project.

So we have our engineering that we've already completed, and we have our construction parts of the process.

So our engineering is it's already gone.

This Garden City project has already completed that aspect.

So we've gone through design and permitting already.

And then typically with any type of construction project, we move through these next phases sequentially.

So that means typically we'll install the new gas main.

And then once that is gassed in, then we move on to the next phase, which is installing the new gas services and then replacing the gas meters as needed.

So because this project is such a big project, we actually have decided to work in sections because that way we can gas in the first part of the gas main and then move on to those specific gas services in that area in that section, and then work to replace the gas meters.

So most, if not all of these gas meters will need to be replaced because we are moving from a scenario of low pressure to high pressure.

And the thing that one thing that we wanted to you to take away from this is that within the Garden City project specifically, we will need to access residents' homes or property first, basically to make sure that we properly size the service and then the meter to accommodate the specific loads that they have within their homes.

And then once again, once we replace the actual gas meter, um, then we will actually need to access the property again to make sure that we complete the fitting work.

The fitting work is simply when we we take the pipe from the specific homes uh service and we make sure that it matches and fits with the main that's that we've already installed.

And then once we complete those steps, then we can actually go in and retire the old gas main and the old services, and then do the final restoration.

So for anybody who's not familiar with that process, we do the sidewalk first, then we go into the milling phase.

So for anybody who doesn't know that, that's basically when you look at the road and it looks like somebody might have breaked it.

That's what milling is.

And then the paving will come at the end.

Okay, uh, as far as construction goes, when we do our gas construction, we do a lot of coordination.

So typically we during any construction season, that's usually runs from about April 15th to November 15th.

Now in Cranston, we're actually very lucky because we actually get to work during the winter uh timeframe.

So that helps us a lot.

And we also maintain a database of all the municipal roads in Rhode Island, anything that's paved within the last five years that already came up tonight.

And we do a lot of collaboration with other entities like RhyDot and the water authorities.

So specifically, for example, yesterday we just met with Providence Water for their with their program.

We we try to coordinate and mainly to make sure that we don't step on each other's toes when we're working in in the same area, but also you know, just to make sure that we don't disturb the road multiple times.

So we try to mitigate that wherever we can.

We apply and we have already applied in this case for RIDOT and municipal permits.

And then finally, we have already issued a butter notices to notify the residents in the specific area of the construction that's going to take place and the planned timeline for that construction, and we'll provide a specific phone number for them to call if they have any questions.

And then when we do our pavement restoration, um, we act we have to excavate the trenches.

So we try to keep that to a minimal width.

As part of the 2019 fair Rhode Island Fair Share Um Road Rate Repair Act that requires all public utilities, including Rhode Island Energy to make sure that we restore the roads that we do excavate with curb to curve paving.

And then we do the, as I already mentioned, the sidewalk repairs, we do that before the milling, the paving, and then the final striping.

All of this restoration is done in accordance with DPW.

So our team is in constant communication with the DPW director.

And then one key point to take away from this is that all the construction work is on going through the entire project.

This all of this construction work needs to be completed before that final restoration will begin.

Okay, so at this point, we wanted to give you a little bit of an overview and then of uh the different gas system planning that we have for this area.

Um I'm going to ask one of my colleagues, Corey Hogg is our principal engineer in our asset planning team.

And he's gonna walk you through this not only the Garden City project, but also um some of the other planned projects that we have for the future.

And just to give you a little sense of bearing, the yellow on your on the screen is actually the Garden City project.

And let's see if my pointer will work.

Maybe not this far.

But um, if you can see where that green starts to happen, that's Pontiac Avenue.

And over on the left hand side where the red is uh over on the far northwest, that's Route 2 Reservoir Avenue coming into New London Avenue.

So uh Corey.

Good afternoon.

Uh my name's Corey Hogue.

Uh wise.

Sorry.

Uh Hoke H O G G.

Um, so as Roseanne was saying, uh, this is just a map of the area where we're currently working in.

We've also done some other work in this area.

So I'll just run through this plan real quick.

So the yellow is what we're calling the Garden City Plantation Drive project.

Um so this is a project that's currently in progress.

Um, and as Roseanne said, part of our plan in this area, it's a plan with kind of two goals in mind.

Um it we're replacing aging uh cast iron and steel mains with plastic, uh, which is less prone to leaks.

And we're also upgrading the service from low pressure to high pressure.

Um, so I guess the easiest way to think about it is if you have a series circuit that's a lot like um converting low pressure to high pressure.

So if you had three strands of Christmas lights tied together, you can't really replace the strand in the middle first.

You have to complete the first strand and then the next strand and then the strand after that.

So a lot of this work has to be done in a specific sequence.

Um so the yellow, like I said, is in progress right now.

Um, the area in red is also low pressure, uh, which isn't included in this progress project, but will have to be done in the future.

Um, the green shaded area is a on Pontiac Ave, which is a project that we actually completed last year.

Um, the purple area is something that we have in our sites, probably either for 2027 or 2028.

And then the orange area is future work that will be done sometime over the next five to 10 years.

Um, this area of Cranson's actually really well set up for the work that we're looking to do because a lot of it still hasn't been replaced yet, and a lot of it is still low pressure.

Um, so part of the advantage too of going from low to high pressure is it's more cost effective for us, and we can work more efficiently because we're able to install smaller diameter mains as opposed to larger diameter mains.

Um that's for this slide.

Okay, councilmanano, you have a question.

Just thank you, uh Chair.

Just the color code.

So red is you said the future.

You said a lot of stuff was the future.

So can you explain how far the future the red is?

I think you you said it for the purple and the uh orange.

Yeah, so the red, so on we actually just did part of this neighborhood.

So, like I was saying, these projects have two goals in mind.

Um, so we did replace a large chunk of the red with plastic already.

We just did it with low pressure plastic.

So it's tough to say when exactly that would be done.

Um, I know that the very far southern portion was just done sometime in the last five years.

So it's not necessarily a neighborhood we're looking to go back into.

So it would be more than five years down the road.

Not this year.

Okay.

All right.

And I have yeah, that's that red area is actually where I live.

And uh a lot of my neighbors have uh uh asked me.

So the replacement gas lines that's pretty much the answer we gave.

So this is great.

Um, thank you.

Yep.

I have um copies of this map as well as the key that we can provide to you after uh as well.

I was actually hoping if we could get this in uh like PDF form or something we can post online, that would be helpful.

Yes, uh, we've already submitted the PDF.

Tracy has it.

So sure thing.

Okay, uh Corey actually already walked through uh some of the project goals here.

And the benefit to all of you and all the residents is that this is actually going to deliver improved reliability for the system and for all of you uh who live and work in this area.

And as far as the timing, we anticipate this project to last about two and a half years.

So it is a pretty uh pretty big project for us.

Um we've already started last month, and the our planned daily schedule is typically 7 a.m.

to about 5 p.m.

Monday through Friday.

As far as other information that you and your constituents may be interested in, the streets will be open to our local traffic to local traffic.

We will have police detail available on hand to help direct that traffic as needed.

And then any individual services.

So we will need to work collaboratively with the residents.

I already mentioned that um uh at the different stages to get onto the to get into the property um for those uh for the individual service as well as for the gas meter replacement, and we will accommodate their schedules as as we as possible as we can.

And then as far as the excavation goes, um our contractors will also work with um the residents to ensure that they can access their own property, make sure they can get in and out of their driveways, etc.

Okay, council.

I just I just have one more question about I guess the schedule.

I think you guys have been on Plantation Drive already.

Um, but there's a big huge brand new building on Plantation Drive.

It's Garden City School.

And I'm not sure about your scheduling, but would the work being done around the school be able to wait until after school is over because you know, my picking up kids, dropping off kids, there's cars all over the place.

And that's that's basically my only concern about uh about that.

If it hasn't already been done, which I think some has been done in the area, but I don't know if it's done.

Sure.

I'm gonna introduce Carlos Silva, he's our construction supervisor.

Hi, good afternoon, everyone.

Carlos Silva, 17 Fisher Avenue, Oliver.

Yes.

Thank you.

Um, so we the school adjustment recession.

We just installed some main there uh in front of the school just to avoid uh any of the semi-shores you would just bring it up.

Our goal is to work around the school schedule.

Hopefully, um when we get there on the neighborhood, we'll be able to uh avoid all any congestions in traffic, making sure all the kids get uh drop off.

Um if um I just don't have a schedule yet for some uh summer classes, if there's any.

Um that wasn't I think the last day of school 17th.

Um for teachers, it might be the following week.

Not exactly sure about the discussion of snow and emergency management stuff.

But yeah, it's that last week of June.

But the project is large and there's no summer classes, yeah.

So I'm sorry.

Uh the project is large enough, but we can actually schedule um I'll work around the school area around the school season.

Thank you.

And I just had one more question.

So um I'm grateful that you all came here tonight.

Is it possible for someone on your communications team to contact the city like ahead of time so we can let people know kind of what's going on and post it to do a better outreach?

Actually, I'm gonna walk through the outreach that we've already done and plan to do.

And then if there's anything specific additionally that you will need, then we can we can certainly discuss.

Okay, yeah.

I it would specifically say just what we're doing right now.

I would say like what we're doing today, right now would be something that we would want to see, you know, a little bit earlier in the project.

It sounds like you already did some of these items.

Yes, yeah, so like maybe a little bit earlier so we can let people know.

Oh, in okay.

Are you okay?

Yes, we could we could come back or um, you know, as as needed.

Great, thank you.

Okay, so to date, what we've already done is we've met with the DPW.

We met with Frank uh and his team.

We also met with Garden City Center uh several times already that's owned and uh operated by WS development, and where we continue to be in communications with them.

We've mailed out a butter notifications to the residents, um, and we will continue to do that as uh we work through the area.

And tonight we're meeting with all of you.

So thank you.

And then um additionally, the end of the contractors will actually go around and knock on doors um to put any general construction information uh on their doors.

We have door hangers.

I've put a copy of what those look like.

And um, this is before they um actually install the services, as I mentioned, we need to access their property.

So we'll be doing that.

Uh our our meter text will also be going door to door for the meters.

Our meter text will also be going door to door for the meters.

And then once we move, uh once we actually uh get more involved in the Garden City Center area, then our stakeholder relations team will actually be uh communicating with those business uh rent uh business owners for ongoing communications with them.

So um that concludes the formal presentation.

But if you have any additional questions, we're happy to take those.

Yes, I'm gonna take President Well first.

Thank you, madam chair.

I'll start uh going back to the construction, and really I have a specific question.

I believe in a project you've already done, and then I have one one more small question.

The gas meter replacement, that's on the outside of the house.

Sometimes they're outside, sometimes they're inside.

All right.

So I believe you've done the the Dean Estates Woodridge area already, probably at least the meters.

They came around, they had notices to my neighbors, your organization.

Somebody else say February to March.

I know this because it went through my neighborhood.

Okay.

Now my question is this, and I did have a complaint, and it was registered to uh production energy.

What's your procedure to notify the people who you're changing?

Uh they're changing you're changing out their meter.

What is that procedure look like?

Sure.

I actually got one myself living in North Providence.

So they um they sent out uh uh a letter to me um and I needed to call to make an appointment.

So um, and then they told me that they would have to, even if my meter is actually outside, so I do need to be home because once they actually uh replace the meter, then they need to come back in and light all the pilot lights.

So and so there is and here's where I'm getting, I'm not trying to trap you on this one, but if no one sent you a notice uh reply, you wouldn't replace the meter, I assume.

Um Dave Gavula, he's our manager of construction.

So your text, I yeah, I assume have that.

Dave Gabullah um Andrew Gavula, G-A-V, U L A.

I'm the manager of gas construction for Rhode Island Energy.

Um so the technicians that actually perform the meter change, it depends on the context of what we're doing.

If it is a scheduled meter replacement um as part of the cycle of replacing the meters due to aging out, yes, that would be the case that they should uh have that direct coordination back, get a response from the customer.

In the case where we're replacing our aging infrastructure and doing our main replacement projects, um, there are infrastructure concerns, there's timeline concerns uh when we get into those projects that I think I'm gonna stop here.

I think we're going off the beaten path.

I'm just worried about the meter.

Okay, you could be all right.

So I I get that part that you know that's up to you.

So I got a complaint, so I'm just gonna I just want to know the procedure.

Um a mother, three young children.

They were sick, they didn't sleep all night.

She expressed to one of your technicians that no, I do not want you to do this at this time.

I just got them down.

I'm exhausted.

I would rather you didn't at this time.

And I guess the tech at the time just went out and did it.

She was very listening when I got back, they did my house, even though I didn't film my, I didn't fill my form out, but I didn't care.

I wasn't home, and I guess you didn't do anything I really noticed all that much, but you did do it.

I think I think going forward, you know, if that if you don't get that, you gotta be considerate, and I'm not pointing a finger at you, but I you know, seeing you were here tonight, I might voice that concern.

Um perhaps do you are you the person who handles uh who coordinates the meter techs?

No, so my my team handles the the construction contractors that perform the excavation in the street.

Uh I have a counterpart who manages the the meter technicians.

So I have a very upset neighbor, and seeing you're here today.

Could before you leave, uh ma'am or you give me the number of the person who who uh who does coordinate that going forward, just in case something like this happens to my my constituents in Garden City, because I'm sure you don't want to do that, but I saw me rather upset and they said this is my house, they shouldn't have been on my property without my my uh without my consent.

Yeah, I think I couldn't disagree with her.

No, no, we and we don't disagree either.

I think the manager of that department would be very upset that someone did that without authorization from the customer.

I'm happy to leave my card.

You can reach out to me via email and I will get you in touch with that.

And I'll come and get it directly after me.

Okay.

Um I do like the color.

Uh I've got a black and white one.

It's it's much more effective in the I think the PDF and the color.

Um, the other question, and maybe it was said, how big of a trench when you're changing out where many of these are going what from low pressure to high pressure.

How big of a trench is it?

Because I don't think it's indicated there.

So the trench width during excavation typically ranges between 18 inches to two feet for the installation.

Right.

Um, then we'll have the laterals for the services, which will be about the same width.

Uh, and then at the locations where we have to tie into the existing infrastructure, that's where we go see larger excavations, uh, maybe up to seven feet wide, uh, 10, 15, 20 feet long, where we have to get in and do the connection.

So is it about a foot a foot?

Did you say 18 inches inches, foot and a half?

Okay.

All right.

Fair enough.

That's all I have.

The hard question was the first one because I have someone who's very upset about that.

Thank you.

Okay, thank you.

Councilman Capapiano.

Thank you, Chair.

I had uh multiple concerns, and that's why I had this put on the agenda tonight.

Thank you for every for coming out.

Um, you have to access the houses more than once.

Do you have to so I have to say at least twice you have to get in, right?

Yes.

So those meter technicians will come out and do an initial survey, uh, meet with the customer, discuss the meter location.

If it is inside, whether or not we're moving it outside, identify a location that works for the customer, and then obviously the the construction crew will come and perform the installation, run that new riser to the new location, and then our meter technicians will come back, perform that that uh fitting work to the new service and relight the appliances.

And if it's inside, they have to go in.

You don't remove all of them from the inside upon all on the outside where it was before, it goes back in the same way.

Uh it could, it depends on the customer.

Some people want to finish their basement.

So we we work with the customer on their preferences to accommodate it within the codes and standards that we have to comply with.

And uh, I mean most people work uh do you work after hours to get this stuff done?

So the installation of the service to the house will take place during the day, but that fitting work can be scheduled at the customer's convenience.

So you would you can do it um after hours.

Yes, we have we have techs that will be uh performing root work after hours for that purpose.

And how much disruption to their yard work, their their grass, and that's is it is it minimal or is it something you have to rebuild?

Every individual property is unique.

Um so we have to work around the constraints of the property where people's septic or sewer or other facilities are, their driveways.

We try and be as minimally invasive as possible.

Um we have some services that we're able to install using low-dig technology, um, shooting a pneumatic missile under the ground to try and minimize excavation activity in their yards.

Um, but if we had to open trench the entire thing, again, it'd be 18 inches to two feet wide from the street to the meter location, and then we would restore that.

Most of our crews will cut the existing sod, set it aside on a tarp, and then reinstall that existing sod at the end of the day so that you might not know that they were there.

If they have to be more disruptive than that, we will loom and seed whatever we disturb.

And uh later on, if it doesn't take or doesn't look right, you'll come back and make sure that it's back the way it was before.

We typically loom and seed spring and fall uh on our projects, and that there is some uh expectation that the customers are going to maintain that once we leave.

And what about sidewalks?

Do you have to cut sidewalks?

Can you go under them?

Uh at times we do have to cut them.

Um our policy based on regulation for our curb valves is that they are not in the street.

Um, so they either go within the customer's premise or they're in the sidewalks.

If we have to disturb a panel, we replace the full paneling kind.

And um, as far as cutting the the ash vault itself and or the paving on the street, um you wait till the whole project's done and before you do curb to curve, is that correct?

That is correct.

So um how bumpy and lumpy are these roads going to be?

I mean, some of them sometimes get pretty severe.

Is I mean can we expect it to be pretty decent when you leave?

You you should expect that.

Um, our expectation from our contractors is that they leave it in a drivable fashion and that they maintain the trenches throughout the project for drivability for the residents.

If there are particular issues that come up, we expect them to be escalated dust so that we can have that resolved.

All right.

And um obviously there's different hours.

I'm going back to the hours that people are available.

So you you you might have to jump around from street to street in order to accommodate some of the different times that people can be available, and that's not an issue.

No, um, from like I said, from the installation portion, people don't need to be home for us to run the service to the house.

It's the connection piece.

So the crews tend to be pretty measured and methodical, moving down the street.

Usually you'll see them at your neighbor's house and know they're gonna be here tomorrow or the day after, and then they'll they'll move on past.

Um it's the connection piece where we work diligently to try and accommodate the customers' needs.

And everybody has to participate.

Am I correct?

They do.

So they don't have no choice in this.

So for us to retire the old main, all of the uh legacy services need to be transitioned over.

Um at a certain point in the project, we will start lettering people, sending out registered letters notifying them if they've uh been resistant to providing access.

Obviously, Rhode Island Energy does own the meter, we have the right to access it.

Um, but we try not to be forceful on these projects because this is not for um a safety concern where we're trying to get in on a week overnight.

These are obviously planned projects, and we try and be as accommodating to people as we can.

But at the end of the day, it's unfair to all of the residents of that neighborhood if we can't get to the final restoration.

So we will send registered letters at the end of the project to any stragglers and encourage them to cooperate.

And uh we will notify them that they will lose their gas service temporarily if they don't uh allow us access.

And um are these quote unquote smart meters where they can be read from the street, or are they the the you still have a uh somebody still has to go up and read this meter?

Uh we do we do have Ertz and some of the gas meters, but there's no there's no um technology that provides anything other than the reading.

So there's no not like the electric meters that provide data and all sorts of other um stuff.

So not a smart meter in that sense.

All right, so it's it's not the same as the electric meter.

I can do some pushback from some residents about smart meters and some don't want them and some want them and we we send out a van that basically drives by and it reads the the meter from there and and it's only for the usage.

And okay.

So in the uh technician or whoever goes out to just help us explaining this, so the residents understand good.

But it's a dumb meter, yes.

That's right, it's a dumb meter, not a smart meter.

We don't want any smart meters.

Okay.

Well, thank you again for coming out.

Yeah.

Councilman Trappicante.

When you excavate, especially uh you excavate to through a sidewalk.

Do you replace the sidewalk with the same material that the sidewalk is made out of, for example, concrete to concrete ash vault the asphalt.

So um perhaps not day of, but ultimately for the project, we will replace in kind with what was there.

So we will make safe the day of.

So if we go through a concrete sidewalk that day, we may put back asphalt that day, but before the project is complete in our eyes, we have to restore the full panel with concrete.

Many times you get settlement.

You have a digger trench.

You come back with you come back after the settlement takes place and you place it, for example, a lawn.

Yeah, we don't we don't restore immediately.

That's that's part of the the waiting process for us.

Councilman Bonanno.

I just had one question that piggybacking off it.

Councilman Campo Piano.

I think he asked the question the meters going to be inside or outside, or a combination of both.

Uh it could be either way.

We we prefer obviously that it be outside for access.

Um, some customers don't have that preference.

We do have to get permission from the customer to move it outside if it is inside.

Yeah, I'm just thinking because when this was done in a different neighborhood.

Um my mother owned a property that's since been sold, but it was mandated that the meters are outside.

So I'm just curious as to when that changed.

It it is a strong preference by both us and our regulators, but under Rhode Island law, we do need the permission of the homeowner to do that.

We have to have them sign for it.

Um, and in some historical districts, it's it's not possible.

So thanks.

Okay, anyone else?

Um, I have a couple questions.

So um when you're doing the work on private property, and I obviously you do dig safe.

Um, are you also working with the property owner for irrigation and any other underground pipes that they may have like dumb stuff like dog fencing?

Yep.

So the the foreman um as they approach to do the services, they're they're knocking, they're talking to the homeowners about those things.

So it's usually a one-on-one conversation with the technician in the field.

Okay.

And if they do obviously hit any of the irrigation lines or anything, those will be replaced by Rhode Island Energy.

Correct.

Okay.

Um you guys don't have to do temporary easements to do this.

You don't have to have to do that.

No, under the gas tariff, um, we we already have authentication for that.

Um, I think all the other members answered any of the other questions that I had.

So I'm okay.

Looks like we're good.

Thank you very much for coming.

And any of the materials that we didn't get, we would love to have them, but it sounds like we have everything.

Yeah.

You should have everything.

You have a PDF of the presentation and um and then Corey does have uh actually some hard copies, uh larger hard copies of the the map itself.

I mean, I don't want paper, but does anyone else want a piece of paper?

Looks like a no save those for somebody else.

Yeah.

Okay.

So otherwise you have the information.

Um that map is is also in the PowerPoint presentation.

Okay, and if anyone else has cards, could they leave them with the Frank?

Sure.

Councilman Ritz.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, seeing nothing else on the meeting.

Can I get a motion to adjourn?

Motion to adjourn.

Second.

All those in favor?

Motions adjourned at 6 51 p.m.

I mean, meeting.

Today is Wednesday, May 6th.

It is approximately 653.

653 p.m.

Uh, Clerk, please take a rule.

Council Vice President Horrion.

Councilwoman Vizieri, present.

Councilman Campo Piano.

Present.

Councilman Banano.

Present.

Councilwoman Graziano.

Present.

Councilman Yanduhar.

Present.

Council President Wall.

Here.

Thank you.

At this time I would like to entertain a motion to approve the minutes from the February 4th, 2026 meeting.

So moved.

So second.

Second.

Any discussion?

Clerk, please take a rule.

Councilwoman Vazieri.

Yes.

Councilman Campo Piano.

Yes.

Councilman Banano.

Yes.

Councilwoman Graziano.

Yes.

Councilman Yanduhar.

Yes.

Council President Wall.

Yes.

Thank you.

At this time I would also like to entertain a motion to approve the minutes from the March 4th, 2026 regular meeting.

So moved.

Is there a second?

Second.

Any discussion?

Clerk, please take a roll.

Councilwoman Vazeri.

Yes.

Councilman Campobiano.

Councilman Bonano.

Yes.

Councilwoman Graziano.

Yes.

Councilman Yanduhar.

Yes.

Council President Wall.

Yes.

Moving on.

There are no committee businesses, business matters carried over.

At this time, I would like to open public comment for docket items only.

Is there anyone in the public that would like to speak on document items only?

See it.

None clerk.

Is there anyone online that would like to speak on documented items?

There is no public comment online.

Thank you.

At this time, I would like to close public comment.

Moving on to new matters before the committee.

Ordinance 4-2601 ordinance and amendment of Title 10, Chapter 32, Section 20, and Section 30 of the City of Cranston Court of Ordinances 2005 and title stop intersections.

What is that?

Enumerated.

And multi-stop intersections enumerated.

Councilman, the floor is yours.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

This one's pretty pretty straightforward.

It came right from the residents.

So in Alpine Estates, Alpine St.

Drives the main road.

Caraway is one of the first streets that comes off it.

They've raised several times several residents, safety concerns there.

We know speeding stop signs isn't the best way to mitigate that, but also between those two roads, um, several of them.

One of them sent me a video where the res uh the people cutting through aren't even slowing down before they make the turn.

So it's become a pretty dangerous intersection.

So for those reasons, I am asking that that we put a stop sign in that area.

Um, I do appreciate uh councilman, councilwoman Bazari and Councilman Bonano uh helping to support me on this, and then I believe councilman uh Campo Piano.

We spoke a little later before I had this added to the agenda about um adding that in there.

I did have one email um from one resident that couldn't come tonight.

It's it's pretty brief.

Um I'm just gonna read it into the record as I told her I would.

So um this is from Kim uh Bazarian that lives on Alpine Estates Drive.

Um, and she wanted to say, I would like to express my concerns about the traffic on Alpine Estates Drive and the dangerous intersection of Alpine and Caraway.

I have resided at Alpine Estates Drive since 2010 and have been a resident of Princeton since 1983.

In the years I've lived on Alpine, I have noticed cars speeding down the roadway, and I'm thankful the stop signs that slow down the drivers.

Unfortunately, the intersection of Alpine and Caraway only has a two-way stop sign.

There isn't a stop sign on either side of Caraway going into Alpine.

This has been a hazardous situation for drivers who stop, and just as they start to go on Alpine, a car zooms down caraway without slowing down to take the corner, forcing the driver on Alpine to slam on their brakes.

This has personally happened to me on several occasions, and I've witnessed it happen to others many times over the years.

Alpine Estates Drive is the main road, and drivers should have to stop before meeting turns onto the main road.

I feel a stop sign at this location would make this neighborhood safer.

I am asking the city of Cranston to put a stop sign on the two corners of Caraway before anyone is hurt in a car accident or a pedestrian is hurt as a driver takes a turn without slowing down a stopping.

Thank you, Councilman Bonano.

Uh yes, thank you.

I'm proud of co-sponsor this with Councilman Ritz.

Uh anybody who's familiar with that area um knows that that Alpine Estates Drive, excuse me, is the main road.

The fact that uh you don't have to stop on a side street to turn on to the main road just doesn't compute for me.

Makes me wonder if somebody like, you know, fell asleep when they were doing the stop signs in this area.

So I think we're fixing a uh accident waiting to happen.

And the second thing I want to say, and I don't mean this in a negative way at all.

It's actually very positive.

The people of Alpine uh have no qualms about letting members of the council know when they have an issue or something.

And since this was brought up, I haven't heard a single email about we can't do this.

Uh you know, I have a few friends that live in that area specifically on Caraway, and I bumped into them and asked them about it.

They think it's a great idea.

So I haven't heard anything negative, which to me is an endorsement.

So um proud to support this, and it's a no-brainer.

Thank you.

Councilman Cobble Bear.

Thank you, Chair.

Uh I want to thank Councilman Gritz for bringing this forward.

Uh, I uh I would like to be added as a co-sponsor, and I'm hoping it solves the issue that they're uh dealing with right now.

So thank you very much.

Anyone else?

Mr.

President.

Uh thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

I uh you know, I've driven in this area, I agree with it.

You know, and generally, if you say if people in your neighborhood want this, I hear the testimony of a constituent, I would be all for it.

But I do have to ask this question.

I do notice does this require something from the traffic engineer?

Solicitor?

I don't see it.

That's the only reason I'm asking.

Well, it's the president.

I believe the traffic engineer denied this request.

And as you know, we we get elected for the people by the people.

So um well, I my only question was this.

Yeah, I may disagree with the traffic engineer.

We did receive a report because I do not see a report from the traffic engineer.

I don't know that it's been 60 days since it was put in.

I do know that the councilman had communication with the traffic engineer going back to 2025 when I did not work here.

It was just through email before something was actually put in.

And they he expressed to him that he was not in favor of it, had done a study in 2021.

But as we know now, and we've all talked about, I think at length, that they don't submit the reports until it's actually put on the docket.

I did check in with the traffic engineer the end of last week, just popped in going to see Director Correo and said, Hey, do you have do you have anything that I need to present to you anytime soon?

And he said no.

So I don't know if that's because the 60 days are not up from when you were originally put it in, because that's usually not until full council, right?

Yeah.

But we do have an email of a I get the gist of what's going on.

Um a little while, you've been in contact with the traffic engineer.

Is that correct?

Yes.

So I had originally talked to him in June 2025 about this.

And at that time, he said, as the director said, he looked into in 2021, did not agree with the stop sign.

Since then, I had heard from five or six more residents.

I went back to him again, and uh he had said he's there was no traffic study done.

He just said he still disagrees with that.

So this will go on.

You know, if we if we do pass that out, it's going to go on the council meeting on the 18th.

Could you please act?

You know, it's tell him we'd like something.

I will go visit the traffic engineer again.

And it seems to me like he probably has something in a file from 2021, and he can just print it and hand it to me.

If he can get it out of that folder before 60 days, it'd be great.

I sure will.

Thank you.

Councilwoman Baziri.

Did he say why?

Um, let's see.

This intersection question has undergone multiple reviews.

Most recently in February 2021.

At that time, the request for an always stop was thoroughly evaluated, and it was determined that the criteria for a multi-way stop control were not met.

During this review, it was also noted that the property located at 50 Alpine Estates Drive was in violation of the corner visibility ordinance, which maybe is attributing to some of the problems they have there.

Um turning.

The property owners are notified, and the issue has since been resolved.

Under current conditions, there remains minimal justification for the existing two-way stop control on Caraway Drive, and even less for expanding control to include Alpine Estates Drive.

Based on this assessment, this office does not support implementation of additional stop controls at this intersection.

I do know that the traffic engineer has expressed to me that he uses um like federal highway regulation when he determines whether or not we're supposed to use you know stop signs or any other traffic stuff.

So that's based on those regulations.

Thank you, Councilman Bonono.

Can I ask a procedural question of uh attorney for Decia?

The 60 days, if if the traffic engineer fails to give us a report or a finding.

We act uh we we have to wait 60 days for that to happen.

And after that 60 days has elapsed, we can act.

Correct.

But now if he says I don't like it, can we still act?

You can still act.

Okay.

So do we have to wait 60 days if he says no, I don't like this.

We just have to wait 60 days for his report.

No, it's a 60-day window.

It's there just in case in the event that you don't hear back.

I mean, theoretically, you'd be waiting years.

So the charter makes a dog, the code makes a deadline of 60 days.

If you don't hear from them, you act.

If you get input, whether it's favorable, unfavorable, neutral, whatever, you can still act.

It's not it's not a limitation on whether or not you can act.

Okay, thank you.

I just also want to say something.

Um doesn't really have to do with this, but it's got to do with the traffic engineer.

We we passed an ordinance that I sponsored.

And the traffic engineer made me change it about 14 times.

And in a private conversation, the police department said, Hey, do we do this?

And that this that they suggested was the first thing I came up with that the traffic engineer made me change 14 times.

So my uh that's that's coming up by the way.

I have to rewrite it, but um my uh uh confidence in his uh assessment shrunk.

And um, I would hope, and I maybe through Director Anzui, you can uh encourage him to also confer with the police department on matters like this, so we don't get conflicted here because I'm not a traffic expert, not an expert in much, to be honest with you.

And uh, I just want to make sure that we're trying to do the right thing here.

And by the way, this is a stop sign.

This is not a federal highway.

Okay, it's a stop sign in a residential neighborhood.

I think everybody's gonna live if we put the stop sign in the traffic engineer doesn't agree with it.

Thank you.

So as the chair, um, since you're the main sponsor, do you agree with your resolution?

I do agree, and I'll just add one last thing.

He also the uh, you know, this originally came up and it was for speeding was the main thing.

And you know, I know this doesn't mitigate speed, but since then, other issues as it stated in that email is folks not stopping to turn.

So it's not just the speed piece, it's it's the other safety piece.

But yes, I do ask that uh for support to move this forward.

Thank you.

And co-sponsor, councilwoman baziri, do you agree with this resolution?

Yes, councilman.

Do you agree with this resolution?

Absolutely.

With that said, we had to take a motion to approve.

So maybe wait, wait, Mr.

President.

I think I'd like to be a co-sponsor if that's okay.

Clerk, can you please add council president Danwell to the resolution?

I'll make a motion to approve.

I have a motion to approve.

Do I have a second second, Councilwoman Baziri?

Any discussion?

Councilwoman Graziano.

Thank you.

Um, I'll just ask if we can get an updated letter because I'm fine whether vote for or against, but I would like an updated letter from 2026 just to get that on the record.

It's fine if we disagree with it.

I just want to say we're disagreeing with one from 2026, not 2021.

Yes, I'll have him read redate what he submits.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So any further discussion.

With that, clerk, please take a roll.

Councilwoman Vaziri, yes.

Councilman Campopiano, Councilman Banano.

Yes.

Councilwoman Graziano.

Yes.

Councilman Yanduhar.

Yes.

Councilman.

Council President Wall.

Yes.

Motion passes.

Moving on to ordinance 426-02, ordinance and amendment of Title Three, Chapter A, Section 50 of the City of Cranston Code of Ordinances 2005, entitled Tax Assessment Border Review, sponsored by our President, Councilman Wall.

The floor is yours.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

I'll keep it really simple.

Um, this was brought to my attention by both the city clerk and by our council attorney who unfortunately was unable to be here.

It's it's just making our ordinance conform with what's written in the charter.

All right.

So it says here no more than two of whom shall be members of the same political party, and two alternates whom shall be uh shall be the same political party.

Members and alternates shall serve for a term of three years with vacancies to be filled in for the remaining portion of their unexpired term.

Basically, it conforms to language that is in seven uh charter chapter seven point one four.

And I'll you know, the pertinent it has to do with the parties with the people who are on on that board, and it says no more than two, whom shall be the main members of the same political party.

So this now conforms our ordinance once again.

I know we had an issue with that, now conforms with our charter, which I think is a good thing.

I don't think I have to belabor the point.

So that's why I urge my uh colleagues to pass it.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Thank you, Madam Clerk, for bringing this up.

Um may entertain a motion to approve.

So moved.

Second.

Have a second and discussion, Councilman Campobiano.

Thank you very much, Chair.

Um, I get some questions about this uh this uh committee uh commission.

Uh who appoints who appoints uh the people to this commission?

We do.

Is it I mean as a group?

I mean, does but who brings them forward?

Thank you.

Anybody I have yeah, director Renzuli.

I think in past practice, um, because we we had already been following previously when I was on the council for the people not to be in the same party.

It was one party nominated someone in their party and the other one nominated someone in there.

So it was either my minority and the majority leader or the president, but it's I don't see it listed anywhere, some place some it just says city council.

So some some of these boards and commissions, it does specify I know I it during we just recently appointed some, you know.

Um, however, it would be logic that if we're changing it, my own.

You know, going forward, you know, the you're in the minority party leader, and that would be the Republican Party at this time.

You would put forth names and we would all vote on it, like we do any other board.

How is it how is it made up now?

Now I believe it is um three Democrats and two unaffiliated.

So that will have to change when we do this.

I I've already, as I preparing for this, I already realized that I have one extra Democrat.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I didn't hear that.

But I'm not having I realize I have one extra Democrat.

Now that we pass this ordinance, I'm gonna have to have a conversation.

Well, it well, it doesn't say unaffiliated on it.

So how does that well that wouldn't be the same political party?

Okay, to yeah, the unaffiliated the way I'm reading it, and uh I'd certainly go with the attorney's opinion.

If you're an affiliate, you're an affiliate, you're not a member of any party.

So the way I'm seeing it is that doesn't count.

You I mean it doesn't say democrat or republican.

I guess we can be more one, you know, it's a political party.

I think it I'm not sure I'm reading other that's how I would understand it, but in other because in other ordinances, I think it does say specifically the minority and the majority party, and this doesn't specify.

So if I may offer a point of Mr.

As I'm looking at the Crancer Rhode Island uh on board for our committees, the composition is the finance director who's an ex officio, tax assessor, also an ex officio, five residents, one appointed by the majority leader, one appointed by the minority leader, and three appointed by the mayor.

So right now we have a vacant seat.

Wait, no, you're looking at the wrong thing, I think.

This is full.

I have it in front of me, so it must be a different board.

I may have it.

No, I don't think so.

But then our then our website's not.

I just printed it off the website, said I.

Tax board of review.

No, it's tax assessment part of review.

Are you looking at a different one?

All right.

Well, anyway, that's what it said on the website.

I guess.

You want me to read what I have from the charter?

Because I have that part too.

Um, it's probably a better source.

Um, the tax assessment board of review shall be comprised of three members, no more than two whom shall be members of the same political party.

That's what we're just adding.

We added that line, and two alternates who shall not be the who shall not be from the same political party.

We're adding that.

Members in alternates shall serve for a term of three years with vacancies to be filled um for the unexpired term.

Somewhere it does say the council does it, though.

Some reason I'm not having I don't have all the clause.

Yeah, Michael.

Unfortunately, our council attorney's not here.

He probably would be, and I don't have the whole charter with me, and I probably right now.

Um before, and certainly ask these questions.

We're trying to conform any questions we can ask.

Well, you know, we can do that before we pass it for the full council.

I I do I still have the floor.

It's up to him.

Thank you.

Um, is this the only commission that gets paid?

I I don't know if anybody can get to that question.

I can't.

I mean, could we have we have uh I know the board of canvassers get some kind of a stipend?

Um, other than that, off the top of my head, I don't think other boards and commissions get paid.

I know planning does not, zoning does not um we might want to save the other boards and commissions for another meeting because that's not noticed tonight.

Oh, I didn't know if that's a good question, but it's not I mean I didn't know if this is something that we can address in the budget, or the only commissions without being paid.

I'd have to look at that budget uh once again.

Yes, I do want to say that these people do give a bit of time, and I you know, the and they do they should I think they should be compensated to some extent.

Yeah, well, I know I was at a planning meeting last night, and they give a considerable amount of time too.

Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't deny that, but I don't think we're talking about the agenda item right now.

Okay, I'm sorry, thank you very much.

Any further discussion seeing none, Clerk, please take a roll.

Councilwoman Viziri.

Yes, Councilman Camp Opiano, yes, Councilman Bonano, yes, councilwoman Graziano, yes, councilman Yadouhar, yes, council president wall.

Yes, motion carries.

Um moving on to council communications around none.

Moving on to may entertain a motion to adjourn.

Is there a second?

Second, all of those in favor say aye.

Ayes have it, any nays?

Ayes have it.

We are adjourned.