13:10Safety service and license committee to order.
13:14Um, please take the vocal.
13:17Councilman Graziano.
13:21Calls and Draft Cante.
13:24Council Vice President O'Reilly.
13:27Council President Wall.
13:29This is a special safety services, so we won't do the minutes from the last meeting.
13:34Is there anyone here tonight from the public that would like to comment on agenda items only?
13:45I see no public comment online.
13:57So we're going to go right before new matters before the committee tonight.
14:26Local businesses in Cranston want to entertain and serve the fans.
14:43And that's why we've called tonight's meeting.
15:02Business owners here deserve the right.
15:04This was something the General Assembly passed.
15:07And we're mayor mirroring them.
15:09Providence has passed it, other cities and towns.
15:12We only had four businesses apply for extended hours.
15:16So tonight for the extended per diem expansion of hours.
15:20The dates are very specific.
15:22June 16th, which is actually today, June 22nd, June 26th, and July 2nd.
15:30House Bill 8009 and Senate Bill 2627A grants them the opportunity if they filled out the application with their local city or town for their licenses to be extended.
15:43This is we cannot charge for it's just an expansion of hours.
15:48So I would like to propose tonight that Balazio located at 1669 Cranston Street, Lona Bar Lounge, located at 195, Morasco's Bar and Grail, located at 148 Park Avenue.
16:16Yes, Council President.
16:18I think before we take any vote.
16:20Take them as a block.
16:21I think we should hear the mayor did submit a letter.
16:28I don't know if you want me to read this whole thing.
16:30We should probably take a vote to accept it and to the record.
16:33Motion to accept the letter from the mayor.
16:35So we'll move to the record.
16:37Councilman Graziano.
16:42Council Traffic Kanti.
16:45Council President Haroyan?
16:47Council President Wall.
16:50Rather than reading the whole letter into the record, I'll just kind of summarize that the mayor, he just wanted to respectfully place on the record his opposition to these requests for extended liquor service and operating hours associated with the World Cup.
17:04He wanted to be clear that that shouldn't be interpreted as opposition to our local businesses.
17:10But that he does believe that this is just too much of a risk as far as with drinking and driving.
17:20So we just wanted to put that on the record.
17:22He does understand that the city council has the full authority and discretion to reach a different conclusion.
17:28And should the committee determine that some accommodation is appropriate, he would strongly encourage that any extension be substantially more limited than the maximum hours authorized under state law and be contitioned upon reasonable public safety requirements.
17:43He has asked the police to be here tonight, and you can accept their testimony on his behalf.
18:02I see the mayor, but anybody would like to weigh in as the police department.
19:53As far as tonight goes, it's you know pretty much 11th hour.
19:56So I don't know whether or not we'll be able to fill of uh uh all of them, if if any.
20:00So I don't know whether or not we'll be able to fill of uh uh all of them, if if any uh but with that being said, um we'll uh um we'll give it out to the uh the beat offices to go ahead and do uh uh what we call liquor checks.
20:11And that it would be no different for this compared to if there was a uh um uh another Friday or Saturday night.
20:17We'll have offices uh with their due uh diligence.
20:21They uh they usually go into uh establishments and uh and make sure everyone's uh complying with the uh with with the the local uh laws and ordinances.
20:30So if if we're not able to fill uh whether it be tonight or the uh the other three nights in uh in question, the um the offices will go ahead and um uh the beat offices will go and just um uh make uh liquor uh liquor checks, and if any uh violations are noticed, they'll uh they'll uh go ahead and uh um take take note.
20:50So but uh that's pretty much all uh all we have at this point.
20:53I appreciate you major correctly today.
21:04I'm gonna ask if I can take these in a bundle, but I would like to propose.
21:09I'm not sure if I do the bundle call first and the vote for the bundle and then propose that we allow the establishments to stay open till 4 a.m.
21:21till closing, because the establishments might decide to close early if they have no patrons, and um alcohol stop serving at 2 a.m.
21:32That's within your jurisdiction.
21:34If you want to require details for this special occasion, I think you can do that.
21:38And I think the general assembly to authorized you the uh latitude to either give all the all the relief or some of the relief as far as the extended hours.
21:54Councilman Enderhauer, Madam Chair, I would recommend that we set the tone and set the rules first, and then we take it all as one bundle at the end to vote on.
22:03So that way we could make a discussion and figure out what's safe for our our Cranston residents.
22:09Okay, could I please have a vote on taking um one through four as a bundle?
22:24Councilman Tropicansky, Councilwoman Vaziri, yes, Council Vice President Heroyan, yes, council president Wall.
22:33Should I do discussion now or wait till we're on these either way?
22:43Would Councilman Adaho?
22:45Did you have something to say?
22:49So I think if we're making the decision, I think that one of the things we have to uh decide.
22:54Do we want to go the full four o'clock in the morning?
22:57Is that what we're looking to go to go to four?
23:02Actually, I've looked up all four games and they seem to end between one and two a.m.
23:08So um I don't I don't know, Soccer.
23:13I don't play soccer.
23:14I don't know if it could.
23:16We could close them at two.
23:19Are you making a suggestion for that?
23:23Um, I know it sounded like we wouldn't have a detail tonight, and there may be other nights we couldn't fill it with the added alcohol.
23:33You know, if it's two o'clock, if the game's over at two, but I don't know.
23:37I don't know when football we could have overtime, but I I'm not sure it's the same thing on that.
23:42So I I'm kind of in the dark on that matter.
23:48I kind of share the same sentiment as the uh council president.
23:51I did read the mayor's letter and some of his points there.
23:54I think you know these aren't locations that are in a residential area.
23:58Um, so I think it's a good good test having these four.
24:00I know they're responsible businesses.
24:02There's a couple minor incidents there too, but I kind of share the same sentiment if maybe we ended at two, uh and hopefully get some some details to cover and have a little bit of buffer there as we we test this out.
24:13Just be my thoughts.
24:17Some soccer games go longer.
24:20So even though they say they're 90 minutes or whatever with overtime penalties and all that stuff, it could go longer.
24:27So just because they say it's gonna end at two doesn't mean it's actually gonna end at two o'clock.
24:32would be compromised.
24:44Like like our councilwoman Bazeri said, um, the games do tend to go longer.
24:50Other cities have proposed the 4 a.m.
24:53and they're doing it because of the penalties and the kicks.
24:55I would recommend a 2 a.m.
25:00And if you get caught serving liquor after that, you're gonna get crucified, of course, from from the the Cranston Police Station for Cristam Police, but um keeping it open till four.
25:09I'm pretty sure that these four restaurants are responsible enough that if they only have 10 people, they're gonna close at one.
25:15So um I'm comfortable with the 4 a.m.
25:19stop closing, but I do would like to recommend a mandatory detail.
25:23And I don't know if we can um start this 6:22 because today um we do not have um proper notice for the police to receive a detail if we were to approve that.
25:34I think they're gonna put it out if this passes and see if we can get it, and if not, the B officer would do a patrol.
25:40Do you have something to say, Kern?
25:44Um, can anybody look at the schedule for the for the uh it's only for four dates?
25:50Those are the only four games that start at 11 p.m.
25:53Okay, so where have other games being played that are being played on those days?
26:03So they're being televised in Mexico, and they're a five-hour difference from us.
26:07Um, and that's why Providence is doing the 4 a.m.
26:11And that's why they only selected these four.
26:14Uh the game starts in Mexico, I believe, at seven, which is 12 or here, something like that.
26:22I could look up the schedule for you, but we're just mirroring everything Providence is doing.
26:28Okay, I just I just don't see a game going four hours.
26:41Yes, Director Renzuli, just for a point of information.
26:45I know that a business owner uh has logged online, and I believe he might have the answer to some of these questions related to the to the game times.
26:53He does have a license to show the game, and he seems to know the answer, so it might save us some time if he's acknowledged through Zoom.
27:05Would you like to speak?
27:07Jordan's Vinny, please raise your hand.
27:13Wow, they get you two hours.
27:26Vinny, you're free to speak.
27:30Please state your name and your address.
27:52If you're online, could you please give your name and address for the record?
27:59Vincenzo Maza 1669 Cranston Street.
28:06Um, is there something you'd like to state to us tonight?
28:09Yeah, so I I think there was some questions about the game times.
28:13So I I looked at the schedule.
28:15Most of the games that do start at midnight are in the qualifying rounds.
28:21So they will they're gonna end by 2 a.m.
28:26There's no reason that you should be that that's the absolute latest that that this will go on.
28:32Um, those games will end by 2 a.m.
28:35in the knockout stages where it's been discussed about overtime, the possibility of all of it overtime, there's only one game that falls in that.
28:44It's an 11 uh it's an 11 p.m.
28:46start time, which even if it went the additional, you know, overtime and penalty kicks, it still would put it around no later than 2 a.m.
28:57So from my standpoint, Barlacio, I would have uh there would be no reason for me to stay open past 2 a.m.
29:04I think that's you know, pretty safe for any games from what I looked at on the schedule, nothing's gonna go past 2 a.m.
29:12I don't see a need for it for me to be open anyway past 2 a.m.
29:18So thank you very much.
29:20Councilman President Well, did you have a question for him?
29:24Yeah, I just want to be clear because I think I'm I'm leaning along the lines of councilman and so if I'm hearing what you're saying correctly, it would be safe that no one would be inconvenienced while they're enjoying the game.
29:36If we shut down alcohol service at two and close down um the the whole whole establishment at three o'clock, that would be a pretty safe gamble and probably would never come into question.
29:49Would that be correct, Vinny?
29:51I think they'd give you more than enough time that you know you the game finishes right at two, and you get people out of there by you know, you have that extra hour to get people out.
30:02That's that's all I need.
30:03Thank you very much.
30:04And thank you for attending virtually.
30:08Councilman Anderhauer has a question.
30:10Vincent, are you still online?
30:13So if a game is ending, let's say 3 15, and there's still six minutes of penalty left.
30:22Are you gonna have angry customers that can't watch the end of the game?
30:27So again, I'm only going by what what I saw online.
30:31If there's a i mean, it depends.
30:34I mean, could could there be uh you know, a delay with you know the broadcasting or them taking a little bit of time, but there's only two 15 minute overtimes, and then it goes to penalties.
30:46I mean, that's that and there's only one game in the knockout round.
30:50The other games will automatically end after the 90 minutes and whatever the injury time is.
30:56So, yeah, that may be the only factor is injury time, but injury time has never been more than you know, five to ten minutes.
31:05So it's safe to say that we can shut the bar down at 2 a.m.
31:09If the game ends at 3 15 or it ends at 2 30, you're fine with a 2 a.m.
31:15alcohol shutdown where if you do get caught, you will be you know held responsible after 2 a.m.
31:20if you serve liquor.
31:20You're you're fine with that, correct?
31:23I think there's no reason to stay open past 2 a.m.
31:41What I'm understanding here is one business owner has spoken and joined us tonight.
31:47And um, he states that he believes closing at 2 a.m.
31:52would be significant fine for the um stop serving alcohol at two, also.
31:58Um, council president.
32:00I would still lean with a little flex time.
32:02I'm I'm all over the idea we should stop alcohol service at two.
32:06I would give them an hour, like you know.
32:09Listen, I've watched a lot of games in my life, maybe not that many soccer games, but sometimes you want to see the end, you want to see some of the interviews.
32:16So that hour, if they if the if the establishment, I would leave it at their discretion, but leave the availability that they could stay you know open until as long as they're not serving alcohol beyond two o'clock to perhaps three o'clock.
32:28That's I would be on that on that fence myself.
32:32Councilwoman Vizari, I don't think a business is gonna stay open.
32:38I don't think a business is gonna stay open if they're not making money.
32:42So even if we give them till 4 a.m.
32:45to close, if the game's over at 2 30, they're gonna shut down.
32:54Madam Chair, you also have to remember if we're charging them detail and they close their details go until 4 a.m.
33:01So that's another thing we have to think about.
33:03I I'm safe with the 4 a.m.
33:06If they want to shut down at 2 o'clock because they have 10 patrons, they still have to pay their detail till four.
33:11Um, it's more of a public safety issue.
33:13I'm pretty sure that these four places, you know, have adamant tips um certification where they could understand if someone's intoxicated and they will use you know Ubers and taxis.
33:23But as long as we have that police presence there, I feel safe, especially for my ward and ward three.
33:29That um the law will be abided by.
33:31And I have talked to um the owner of Zona Lounge about adding that extra layer of security to make sure that their patrons get out, make sure that everybody's safe getting to their car.
33:41And if somebody detects that somebody might be a little bit tipsy or under the influence where they they can't drive, the keys are being taken away, and the police officer will call a cop to told the car or um you know they could find another means of to get home.
33:55Okay, um, I would be fine with staying open till 4 p.am.
34:00I believe, mirroring the general assembly, but alcohol, I don't believe should be served after 2 a.m.
34:08And I would like to put on the record a police detail from 10 p.m.
34:14So if they close early, they close early.
34:16The police officer is scheduled, I believe, till 4 a.m.
34:20Is that the correct wording, major?
34:39So if I'm hearing this, if this this is the motion you're gonna want, that we want to have the establishments remain open until four o'clock.
34:48However, their alcohol service must stop at two o'clock during these game times, and there will be a mandatory police day detail, which will begin at 10 p.m.
35:01So that's a motion I'm making.
35:03President, may I add if you could add that the game has to be aired in the bar?
35:07It has to be on TV screens.
35:13In addition, the game should game must be aired in the bar on the TV screens provided by that for extended hours.
35:22You're making the motion.
35:24Do I have a second second?
35:27Clerk, could it please have a roll call vote?
35:30Director Renzeli, do you have a question?
35:35You know, she did uh director in Zulu did bring in is does that cover outside as well?
35:41I'm not comfortable with outside for this, I don't believe.
35:44We're not addressing not with neighbors and so if you want to rephrase it indoor only.
35:49I'll add the last caveat just for all of us, indoor only.
35:55That the establishments can be open until 4 a.m.
35:59on the specific uh specified game nights.
36:01Alcohol service will stop at 2 a.m.
36:05There'll be a mandatory police detail between 10 p.m.
36:11The games must be carried by the establishments, and those games will be indoor and not outdoor.
36:18So that's the motion.
36:23Thank you for this, madam chair.
36:24I mean, it's we're just catching up with the rest of the cities and town.
36:27So I thank you for doing this.
36:28Yes, we have to take care of small business owners.
36:31Could I please have a roll call vote?
36:33Councilwoman Graziano.
36:38Councilman Trafficanti.
36:41Council President President O'Reilly?
36:43Council President Wall.
36:45I do just want to know, Madam Chair, just so that you know, the licenses need to be released by the licensing clerk.
36:52So I don't know if you want to just for the police to pass on that these four businesses will be licensed tonight, but they will not be able to download download those licenses until tomorrow morning.
37:02So if they're doing spot checks, they need to know that they are licensed, but they have no license to show.
37:09Could you put that on the core?
37:10The physical license cannot be printed out till the a.m.
37:20Okay, this meeting will be adjourned now.
37:23Would you like to motion to adjourn?
37:25Yes, motion to adjourn.