0:00Welcome everyone to the February 4th, 2026 meeting of the Danbury Planning Commission.
0:05I will open with a roll call.
0:14Chairman Finaldi is here.
0:16So we do have a quorum and we do not have to seat.
0:18We do not have any alternates to seat.
0:20Um, I did ask Joanne, you know, we were supposed to get another new member.
0:26Forgive me, Alaya Novas, I believe that's the pronunciation, but apparently apparently up to this point, we're not really sure what her status is.
0:34Um not really sure what the status of that new member is, and uh we'll just put that one aside for now.
0:42I will follow up on it, Arnie, and let you know.
0:45And before I get to the uh agenda, and I will have a more formal you know announcement when we get deeper in.
0:53Um, there were two items uh under continuation of public hearings.
0:57Uh the number one was BRT Sconset, and the number two was Danbury Mill Plain Realty LLC.
1:04Uh, just in case anyone had tuned in uh for either one of those applications, uh, we have received uh requests from both applicants to continue uh both matters until our next meeting.
1:17So if anyone was tuning in to hear testimony or give testimony on either one of those, um we will not be doing that this evening.
1:24And like I said, I'll make the formal announcement when we get there.
1:28Um uh commission members, uh, the minutes of the January 21st, 2026 meeting were previously distributed.
1:36Unless there's any corrections or discussion, I'll entertain a motion to accept those minutes.
1:42Chairman, motion to accept those minutes.
1:46Second, Helen, any discussion?
1:48All in favor, please say aye.
1:52The minutes are accepted.
1:55Our next meeting is scheduled for February 18th, 2026.
1:59And um, before we get to the capital improvement plan, I will just read the standard Zoom intro.
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3:21We'll move right to the first item on our agenda for discussion of possible action.
3:25Uh the proposed capital budget plan, financial year 2627, um to 3132.
3:33I mentioned briefly to Waleed, particularly for the benefit of our newest member, uh Sydney.
3:38Wally, if you would just give us a fly over what the capital improvement plan is, um, why it's important, and uh why this is a matter that comes before the planning commission.
3:47So I'll turn it over to you.
3:52Good evening, everyone.
3:56So my intent is not actually to have a very long presentation.
4:00Uh I would like to keep it more like uh big picture, so to allow you to ask me questions after.
4:06But for the sake of the discussion, I will just talk about what the CIP is.
4:11It's a requirement by the state law legislation to have a general idea of how the C city is gonna spend money on big projects over five years, but we do it here six years, and the idea is each cycle of budget, which is annual, should be guided by the capital improvement plan.
4:33And it's also needed not just for the city to know how to allocate funding.
4:38It's very important for it to be adopted by the planning commission as well to allow the fund department to seek uh funding outside of the city.
4:48So it's very important for the city budget as well as for applying for funding, be it the state funding or even federal funding.
5:00And it's by state law, it has to be adopted by the planning commission.
5:04So the way we do it here, we do it for six years.
5:09Legally speaking, it can be for five years, but just would like to actually have more of a time span.
5:16I will start by giving a big picture, and I hope that you found that this year's CIP was easier to understand.
5:25I'm talking about the Excel sheet.
5:27It has been greatly improved compared to what you used to see before.
5:32Back in like last year, for example, we were talking about, if I'm not mistaken, 28 different columns.
5:39They were very difficult for everybody to make sense of what it is, be it you as a planning commission or all the departments.
5:47So there were a lot of confusion about what each column stood for and the functions.
5:52If you look at the Excel sheet that was sent by Joanne, the latest one I'm talking about, you will see you have about total of 14 columns.
6:02I'm talking about each tab within the work book or Excel workbook.
6:07Each one says what it is for.
6:10So once you go to any column and you actually look at it, something will pop up telling you that's what it is for.
6:17I would say compared to last year, for example, I didn't get any comments from any department about the logistics or what does this mean, except for one comment that tells you how different it was to give you an idea.
6:32Last year I spent hundreds of hours talking to different departments to help out explain what it is for.
6:52But anyway, I'm trying to share I will try to share my screen with you to give you some of the highlights.
7:05Can you all see this one?
7:14A lot of numbers, but to give you an idea, this year, this number here was 699 plus million.
7:23This is the total required over six years.
7:28And to give you an idea about how different it is from last year, last year the total number was 795 million.
7:39If you compare it with what we have, this is about what 96 million less.
7:44And the main reason why is if you recall, last year, the city actually opened the new high school.
7:52I'm talking about the one on the West side that made a huge difference in terms of what we are asking for.
7:59And again, this huge number, it's over six years, it's not for one year.
8:05What is actually being asked for for this financial year is this number here.
8:12I'm just trying to find it.
8:14It will be 136 million 517.
8:21It's more than last year.
8:26And I will explain why this number is bigger when I'm actually giving you more highlights.
8:32Moving actually on, I will start by talking about what is different from last year.
8:40Very quickly, for example, here, which I explained before.
8:45If you look at the total number of columns, it's about 14.
8:50Very easy to see, and you don't have to shift over each time.
8:55And this is what I was talking about.
8:57If you actually you don't have to click, if you go over any columns, it will tell you exactly what it is for.
9:04I don't know if you can see this.
9:06Sometimes it is slow.
9:22The total cost is the money coming from the city or for or is it coming from a different source?
9:29And how it will be spent over six years.
9:33That's the goal of the CIP.
9:35For whatever reason, over the last 20 years, it kept changing to the point that few, if any, understood what the sheet is about.
9:47You don't need anybody to explain it to you.
9:50One thing that we added this year, and I'm gonna go all the way here to the end of the sheet.
9:57I have this tab here, assessment office.
10:01We didn't have it before.
10:03It's being added for the first time.
10:05The reason is they would like to buy a new vehicle, which is about 24,000.
10:13And every five years, you have to do a whole assessment of the city that will cost about half a million dollars.
10:23So this is a new tab that didn't exist last year, for example.
10:29And because I am from planning, I will go and talk about what planning is asking for.
10:41What we are asking for in terms of the planning needs.
10:46We're asked for contingency of 600,000 for the downtown projects.
10:55The downtown project is totally administrative by planning and not engineering.
11:00And we are starting phase two this summer, and we need to have a contingency of 600,000 because just to give you an idea, the more you start digging, which you must have seen it, I hope in downtown, the more work you you find out that you need to do.
11:19For example, we are into a lot of elder uh sorry, old infrastructure.
11:25We need to upgrade our traffic signals, all of that has to actually come from somewhere.
11:31That's why we would like to have the contingency.
11:34Another one, we're asking for 200,000.
11:38It's because of the new housing mandate that came from the state.
11:42I'm sure you have been following the new housing mandates.
11:46We need to activate quickly.
11:47So we need to have this in case we actually end up having to hire a consultant, which which we would need at some point.
11:55Another one we're asking for from planning, is we need to update our watershed regulations.
12:04They are over 20 years old, and I'm sure you know it already.
12:09It has a lot of redundant sections and sections that are outdated.
12:14So we need a consulting engineering company to review what we have and look at improvements.
12:22Now I will move on to talk about some of the interes that we have.
12:28I'm talking only about the big ones.
12:31So one usually the big ones come from engineering, water, or sewer.
12:40To give you an idea here, I don't know if you can see item number 23, or which is project 16.
12:47That's one of the biggest asks.
12:49It's 54 million dollars, and it is over more than one year, and the reason is it's because of the PVAS treatment, which is federal requirement now.
13:02So there's no way out of it.
13:05Also, another big ask is 11,800,000.
13:10It's for water distribution or improvements as well.
13:15Another big ask, which is the one from sewage.
13:19I know there needs to be improvement to the west side sewage line, which is over 20 million dollars.
13:28Another big ask is say over three million for mill plane sewage extension.
13:36There are other asks also from water, but they are not as significant as the ones I just mentioned.
13:42One thing I would like to point out is that, and thank you for actually, Bob, for pointing this out.
13:50There's an entry here that has been entered twice by different departments, and I'm gonna actually I have the note here.
13:59So under the building, sorry, public buildings.
14:05I'm just looking for the tab here.
14:09There's one entry, which is five million dollars.
14:20Bear with me, I'm just looking for it.
14:35So this one is being asked for the attaining wall at the magnet school, it's five million.
14:42It was entered under public build as well as as under construction.
14:47So I will ask you, Mr.
14:48Chairman, when you are actually adopting it to delete one of the two enters because it's exactly the same under different departments.
14:56Okay, what were the two headings?
15:00And the other one was construction.
15:05And the same entry, five million for the retaining wall.
15:11Uh like it pairs to the attaining walls.
15:15Okay, so the repairs to the retaining wall for five million was under two different categories.
15:21Um public buildings and construction, and we have to amend that to make sure it's only included under one.
15:27Maybe I can find the second one.
15:29So what I'm showing here is one of the two.
15:32I don't know if you can see it.
15:37So if I go to construction.
15:41Yeah, it's project number five under construction.
15:44Yeah, I'm just trying to find construction here.
15:48It's all the way towards the beginning, yeah.
15:52Yes, I find it here.
15:56And it's the one here.
15:58It's this one, which is item 12 or project number five.
16:03I have it highlighted in yellow.
16:08I don't want to go on and on, but those were the main highlights I wanted to point out.
16:14I would like to just open the floor for discussions or any questions you might have.
16:22Should I stop sharing, or would you like me to keep the Excel sheet?
16:27Um, you can keep the shared screen on there for now, Walid.
16:30Um I'll first go to Mr.
16:33I did read the back and forth between you and Waleen.
16:36Were all your questions answered, Bob, or do you have any more?
16:39I have a few, I guess in general.
16:42Um there's a lot of uh bridge replacement uh activity going on.
16:48Uh so are any of these uh candidates for funding from someone else other than the city, or is are these all gonna be uh on the city's dime here?
17:02Because I mean it's a there's a fair amount of them, and it's a fair amount of dollars if you add them all up.
17:10What I know is some of them uh can apply for funding, some of it actually can apply to funding for FEMA, and uh also as I state uh programs, but none of it is guaranteed.
17:23So my understanding is we oh sorry, they were submitted under funding from the city for now, but this will allow engineering to apply for the funding opportunities, but again, to be clear here, and this is I know this for a fact over the last 20 or even uh 15 years, city has applied for a lot of funding.
17:46It doesn't mean you will be successful at landing all the cost.
17:50You will be lucky if you get a portion of the cost.
17:56Um, do you know if they're gonna try to do one of these a year or how the kind of the time frame?
18:02I mean it seems as though they're and and I know this is uh you know, kind of throw everything at the wall, and then uh once this gets once they do the whole budget, they determine actually the the dollars that really can be uh allocated towards the capital plan.
18:18It's not gonna be anywhere near the 100 and whatever million you show there.
18:23Um it's probably gonna be more than uh probably five to ten, maybe um, which is kind of crazy, but um, so it's just what um I I just for curious as to how they determine which ones really need to be, I mean it need to be done or how they pick, and they all seem to be urgent.
18:46Well, this has been actually put on the back burner for uh many many years.
18:51So what is going on now is engineering saying to saying to us, meaning us, meaning the whole city, hey, we have an issue.
18:59Most of them are urgent.
19:01We know that we are not gonna get funding for all of them, but we are putting everything out there so everybody knows that there's an issue.
19:11Okay, and of course, city will have to be strategic.
19:15They will have to see which one is needs immediate attention because there's as you know, limited budget.
19:26Um, under under the highway, um, every one of everybody's favorite is uh road repair and maintenance and paving, and um there was some big dollars there, if I remember right.
19:41Um I recall that we issued a bond last year.
19:48Um I don't know, 50 million dollars.
19:52There's a supposedly uh a big chunk of that was gonna go for road paving that's so that they can get more done of it done with it.
20:00So I guess my question is the dollars that are for 2627.
20:06Is that actual coming out of our capital budget?
20:09And or is where are the dollars that were um issued for the bonds?
20:15Are those all used up, or are there more to come for the for that, or how does it how does that fit into the plan?
20:21Because I didn't notice um there was any you know bonding or other funding money on on those line items.
20:30Yeah, if you can't question, I might actually if like we're still showing services.
20:35If you could click over to highway, Bob's talking about I think the 54 million dollars shown for a highway.
20:42Yeah, project two there, it's nine million for this year.
20:46Yeah, I thought it was a 59 million.
20:49You if you click on it, you will see that uh talking about 240 miles of public height of wave, and this would be over six years.
20:58So this is unrelated to the bond.
21:03Okay, so this is above the uh bonded amount.
21:08Yes, that's different, yes.
21:11And and do you do you know if all the bonding dollars were spent on paving already, or if that that continues as well and it's gonna supplement this going forward?
21:21I don't know if they spend money from the bond on actual constitution, but they would be doing it soon, which is different from the uh 240 miles that uh asking for 50 million dollars for over six years.
21:36Yeah, because I I remember this line item was kind of the every year X dollars X miles of of the city roads get paved, and they try to do as many as many as they can, and they have you know certain life's life spans like 20 years for each road, even though most of them are probably over than that over that.
21:54So they try to do the as much as they can.
21:58Um so that's why I understand that the nine million.
22:01Uh I'm just curious as to you know, there was a big chunk of of that 50 million bond going for road paving, and whether whether that was completed or not uh during this year, or how if that's gonna continue or it wasn't used at all.
22:17I don't I don't know what the answer is to that.
22:20The best of my knowledge is what I just mentioned, the acibit items and the 50 and 54 million dollars.
22:27Let me go over the six, and you're talking about that might be easier here.
22:34Yeah, no, I see it's a 50 more 54 million total project, and it's 240 miles over all of the city roadway there.
22:43Um they try to do 20 miles a year.
22:46Yes, this is the one you're talking about.
22:50Yes, so is that talking about for this financial year nine million?
22:55And it's not a secret, the city has a lot of public item ways that needs a lot of improvements.
23:02So I know this has is an assistant in some areas, which is different from the bond, because the bond was mainly about if I'm not mistaken, the one you're talking about is a new fire station bond that included some public item improvements.
23:27Uh let's see what else.
23:41That's that's pretty much all I had.
23:44I know some had questions about uh last year, the budget, how much was actually assigned to the capital improvement last year?
23:5657.7 million dollars were assigned for last year's uh capital improvement.
24:03So that's what was assigned.
24:05And that's city funded that 57.7 million, that's all from the city.
24:11That doesn't include what we might get from the state or the federal government.
24:16That was the answer from our finance department.
24:21So again, for Sydney's benefit, this this doesn't mean that all this stuff is gonna get done.
24:27Um, this is a glorified wish list.
24:30Um if we had a magic wand, we'd wave it and all this stuff would get done.
24:35But it you know, like Bob said, it goes from this to some sort of a prioritization um process, and uh the other people have to decide what gets funded and what doesn't.
24:47But this um it just gives you an idea as to the magnitude and the scope of capital improvements we need in the in the city.
24:55It's an expensive thing to keep the city moving forward, and you know, allocation of scarce resources.
25:01Is that fair, El Walid?
25:05That's the main reason why doing it just to show the gap between what we would like to have and what we realistically can have.
25:12To give you an example, I can go back here.
25:14Just that might make it easy for everybody.
25:17I'll go back to can you all see this one?
25:26So for example, if you look at what what is being asked or by different departments for this year, you will see this huge number, which is 136 million plus 517,000.
25:41I wouldn't be surprised of if what gets approved by the budget goes down to 60 million or so.
25:54I'm talking about the city budget.
25:56I'm not talking about now you have this.
25:58You can actually in tandem with what the city is giving you.
26:01Each department can apply for different funding outside the city.
26:09So just to give you an idea, I think the entire budget, everything for the city is around what 330 million plus or minus, somewhere in there.
26:18That's exactly what it was last year.
26:21About what 190 of it is for the school.
26:24Yes, some width, yes, is uh somewhere in that range, 180, maybe 190.
26:31And then you know, you've got you know, everything safety, whatever, every so it's um it's a big expensive city to keep moving forward, and um what we're doing, fine.
26:46Just to give you an example, because examples are easy to understand.
26:50If you look at what's going on in downtown in terms of all the sidewalks and improvements, it's over 20 million, only eight was were financed by the city.
27:03Okay, the rest came from the state or the feds.
27:07Well, you from the state.
27:10Of course, the state means different agencies, so it's not the same agency.
27:14That's where it's gets to be very complicated.
27:21Okay, well, big numbers.
27:25Hope we can do the best we can and fund all these all the all these projects are worthwhile.
27:30It's just a question of what they're gonna do.
27:33Anything else, commission members for Walid?
27:36Any other questions?
27:38Chairman, I I um we started down um the road of what the general processes for this.
27:45So, you know, my understanding was you know, the department heads would come up with their budgets, and then it would come to I guess the planning department.
27:53I know Wally from what you've all you've been saying here, you get got to know it very, very well and worked with the departments to make these numbers, and then now it's before us, and you know, we have to do our work here and make you know make sure it looks viable from uh uh planning commission standpoint.
28:12Then after that, just in general, high level, what you know, what happens and how long does the whole process take?
28:18We got it's going from here to where next and who has to approve it and how long will it take.
28:26So to answer a question, it needs to be adopted, be it as it is, or if you actually would like to have changes, that's fine, but needs to be adopted today.
28:45I understand we have to do something here, but after that, what happened?
28:48I guess going forward.
28:49You send it to the mayor's office, and the mayor's office will have an official copy, and when uh looking at the actual budget for the year, you will be looking at the document we have and to see how much they can allocate to the different departments based on the financial abilities.
29:10So it would be the mayor, mayor's office, finance department.
29:15Actually, they might already be talking before it's being adopted because there's not enough time between now and the financial year.
29:23So you keep talking and you keep finding out which ones are more of a need that must be done by the city, which one can wait for another year, maybe two years, and it's a decision made usually by the mayor's office and finance.
29:37Okay, so of course the council after that to approve or um to ask for changes.
29:44So you the last one you just said was the city council.
29:47Is that what the last step would be uh the city council?
29:51All right, thank you very much.
29:57Commission members again.
30:00Again, um, we have to make a a motion to approve or deny the CIP again.
30:04I would remind um whoever's making the motion to amend uh the CIP to the remember there was a an entry for five million dollars retaining wall for the school that appeared twice, one under public buildings, once under uh construction services.
30:21We're gonna have to uh delete that from one of those two, but I believe that's the only uh correction that um we're gonna be suggesting.
30:29So with that said, I'll entertain a motion, Mr.
30:36I I'll make a motion to approve uh the uh capital improvement program budget um as presented, uh subject to uh deletion uh of the duplicate items, one of the duplicate items for the five million uh reference to the retaining wall, either in construction services or in uh engineering.
31:06Any further discussion?
31:08Hearing none, all in favor, please say aye.
31:13The CIP moves forward to the mayor's office and to the city council.
31:18Thank you, uh Waleen, for your hard work on that.
31:24I'm gonna mute myself now.
31:28Um looking at our agenda, uh, commission members.
31:31As I mentioned earlier, we have nothing under public hearings.
31:34We have two items shown under continuation of public hearings, and um let me just go through those briefly.
31:41BRT Sconset LLC, application for revised special exception, revised site plan approval for an existing previously approved cluster development, the ridgetop sections 482 B34826 in the RA40 zone, 10 day meet drive F09038, special exception number 589.
32:01We have uh Allie received an email from um Steve Sullivan earlier today.
32:08Uh dear Allie, please continue this application to your next scheduled meeting on 218 26.
32:16No testimony will be heard from the applicant and team.
32:20So, unless there's any other discussion, I'll entertain a motion to continue this matter till our next meeting on February 18th.
32:35Motion made and seconded.
32:38All in favor, please say aye.
32:44Item two under continuation.
32:47Dambray mill plane realty LLC application for special exception, site plan approval for automobile service station, service garage, inconvenience market, section 3e2, 3e, 9, 5b, 2b1, and 9.
33:01The tr with trip generation greater than 500 vehicles, trips per day in the CA80 zone, 85 mill plane road D14013, special exception number 805.
33:11Um looks like uh on February 3rd.
33:15Um Joshua Padera sent an email to Allie.
33:20Um, hi Allie, sorry for the delay.
33:22Yes, this is confirmation that there will be no testimony at tomorrow's hearing, and the public hearing should be continued to the next meeting on 218-26.
33:34I think it's Pedrera, Principal Cohen and Wolf PC.
33:38So again, Commission members, unless there's any discussion, I'll entertain a motion to continue this matter until our next meeting on February the 28th.
33:52Second, any discussion?
33:54All in favor, please say aye.
33:59Um looking at our agenda, we have nothing under old business, referrals, new business correspondence, or other matters.
34:07Um I think there's a few items under for reference only, which you're feel feel free to take a look at.
34:13You know, call Allie or if you have any questions.
34:16Um other than that, I think we're set to go.
34:20So unless there's anything else, Commission members, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.
34:30I can bob any discussion.
34:33All in favor, please say aye.
34:37Meeting is adjourned.
34:39Thank you, everybody.
34:40Thank you, everyone.