0:00Everybody to the March 18th, 2026 meeting of the Danbury Planning Commission.
0:05We will open with a roll call.
0:12And that Chairman Finaldi is here.
0:18Commission members, I received a uh a letter that the mayor had appointed uh an alternate um uh to the planning commission.
0:29Eva Vega, three Crane Street, Danbury, Connecticut.
0:33Um, I believe uh she was sworn in, and uh I think the intent was to have her attend tonight, but I don't see her here on the Zoom meeting.
0:44I uh Joe, I can't remember the last time we had an alternate, Joanne.
0:47When did we have an alternate last time?
0:51Unless it was uh uh Hallis, he was wasn't it come out.
0:58Yeah, and then he became a member.
0:59I that's the list I remember.
1:01Yeah, what year was that?
1:06And um, and then we had Cheryl Wallace, uh Cheryl Wallace Smith, but she came in and out very quickly.
1:13So anyway, the good news is we have an alternate sworn in.
1:17The bad news is she's not here tonight.
1:19We're not sure when she's gonna attend her first meeting, but that's still movement in the right direction.
1:24Anyway, um, I'll read the Zoom intro.
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2:41Our next meeting is April 1st, 2026.
2:44Please note your calendars.
2:46Um, the minutes of the March 4th, 2026 meeting were distributed.
2:51And unless there's any comments or corrections, I'll entertain a motion to accept those minutes.
3:04All in favor, please say aye.
3:09Um, as I mentioned, there's no public hearings this evening.
3:13Um, no new public hearings, rather.
3:16And under continuation of public hearings, item one, Danbury Mill Plain Realty LLC application for special exception site plan approval for automobile service station service garage and convenience market, sections 3e2, 3e9, 5b2B1, and 9 with trip generation greater than 500 vehicle trips per day in the CA80 zone, 85 mill plane road D14013, special exception number 805.
3:43Uh Commission members, as shown on the agenda, this matter will be tabled and continued until the April 1st, 2026 meeting.
3:51At the request of the applicant's attorney, there will be no testimony taken or given on this application at this meeting.
3:58Um, Allie, just a brief refresher.
4:00We're doing okay time-wise.
4:02I know we have a meeting April 1st and April 15th.
4:05I just want to make sure we're doing okay here.
4:08Um, yes, we're doing good on time.
4:11Um, I believe the drop dead date would be um May 1st.
4:17So we do have an additional public hearing if necessary.
4:20Um, I know the applicant is planning on presenting on April 1st.
4:24Um, but we do have a little wiggle room with that April 15th um meeting scheduled as well.
4:33Do we happen to know what the issues are?
4:35Uh the why why they keep tabling this or continuing this?
4:39I I don't for this in particular, this table in particular, they wanted to have both their environmental professional and their traffic engineer at the meeting.
4:49They didn't want to come tonight and do a presentation with only one of them.
4:53Um, they just thought it would be more efficient to do it all on April 1st.
5:00Commission members, any questions for Allie on this uh application?
5:04And if I hear none, I'll entertain a motion to continue this until our April 1st meeting.
5:11Chairman, I'll vote to continue.
5:19All in favor, please say aye.
5:24This will hopefully um hear this one on April 1st.
5:29Um, under old business, you will note uh commission members, there are three draft resolutions.
5:36Uh so Allie's been busy writing.
5:38Allie, can well done.
5:40Um the first one we'll get right to Western Connecticut Council on Alcoholism Inc.
5:45application for revised special exception, revised site plan approval for interior renovations to existing dependency treatment centers, sections 5B2B11 in the CA80 zone 38 Old Ridgebury Road, C16024 special exception number 799.
6:02Commission members, you may recall that our last meeting we gave Allie some guidance uh on this particular application, and um she's provided us with a draft resolution of approval.
6:13Allie, any uh discussion or comments on that resolution?
6:16Um I believe it was pretty straightforward resolution here.
6:20Um again, just that interior renovation of the existing dependency treatment center.
6:26Um, just jumping to number six.
6:27So the commission is aware the applicant did submit the revised plans in response to um my staff report dated February 19th.
6:37So that will be resolved hopefully shortly as well.
6:41Um, but really no conditions in this that are out of the ordinary.
6:49We like them when they're simple.
6:50Uh Commission members, uh, if you had a chance to review the um draft resolution, any questions for Allie?
6:57This was a pretty straightforward one.
7:01No meat on the bone, as they say.
7:05If there are no questions with the draft resolution of approval with conditions, I will entertain a motion to approve or deny the resolution.
7:15Chairman, I'll make a motion to uh approve the resolution with conditions.
7:20Bob, do I hear a second?
7:26Uh motion has been made and seconded to approve the resolution of approval with conditions.
7:30Is there any discussion?
7:34All in favor, please say aye.
7:38The resolution of approval with conditions is approved.
7:43Um, we'll go right to the next one.
7:45BRT Sconset LLC application for revised special exception, revised site plan approval for an existing previously approved cluster development, the ridgetop sections 4A2B3 and 4A6 in the RA40 zone, 10 Damia Drive, F09036, special exception number 589.
8:04Um Allie, um your comments, please.
8:10So again, pretty standard for the cluster development.
8:13I know we just saw one for one and three Pembroke.
8:17So I'm gonna jump straight into number six, which is that standard condition for the HOA.
8:25Um, basically that they file the declaration and that it be referred to the Department of Planning and Zoning as well for review, um, just to ensure that the ownership maintenance of easement areas and the private drives um are well maintained by the HOA.
8:44Then jumping to number nine, it is the standard to extend municipal water and sewer facilities that the applicant has to obtain approval from council.
8:55Um then we have the standard staff report conditions, um, construction sequencing plan in number 12 was really important, just due to the existing housings houses up there.
9:09Um, so we just want to make sure that everything is good on the construction sequencing.
9:16We worked with the applicant on this as well a little bit, just to make sure that they can um start grading and drainage and foundations um prior to getting this verification from their engineer.
9:30Basically, going off of Kelly's staff report, engineering staff report um that is conditioned.
9:35The engineer needs to verify that the storm drainage systems are properly maintained and functioning as designed.
9:43Um so we're allowing with this permit here, we're allowing allowing the applicant to start with grading and drainage permitting as well as um foundation permits.
10:00But as soon as they start to go into the structure permit, which is the building itself, that's when they have to verify that the storm drainage systems are functioning properly.
10:07And then number 18 is going to be the condition for the fire marshals.
10:14As the commission is aware, there was some discussions about the widths and the concern for fire apparatus to get through the private drive.
10:23So this is just going to verify that the as built maintains that minimum of 20 feet width of unobstructed roadway.
10:34And I think that covers all the project specific conditions.
10:48You mentioned in 13, the sort of chronology of permits.
10:54First one is the grading and drainage.
11:00And the third is the structure before they start building itself.
11:04So the the intent here is to is to give them a little flexibility to let them start with the grading and drainage and foundation and then get to the structural permit after it's inspected.
11:17Just give us a little bit on that.
11:19Yes, that's correct, Mr.
11:21The foundation here is really important because that's when the water and sewer hookups happen as well for each dwelling.
11:27So it does allow a lot to happen just prior to the actual building of the structure itself.
11:33That's when that verification would need to take place.
11:39Commission members, anything uh on this draft resolution of approval.
11:44Chairman, just a quick refresher.
11:48Is that a private road or is that a city road?
11:53That is a private road.
11:54The whole the all the way from Clapboard up.
11:59And then the number 18 when you're talking about the private access road, is that Damien Drive or is that the back one with that's the parts?
12:09That is going to be the looped um roadway, that proposed new looped roadway.
12:13Oh, the new looped roadway.
12:19We're not crazy about private roads, but it's a private road.
12:22What are you gonna do?
12:23There's always seems to be issues, but we'll that's a discussion for another time.
12:29I just have a sort of a procedural question here.
12:33Uh on number nine, you have the applicant shall obtain approval from the city of Danbury City Council for the to extend the municipal water and sewer.
12:44Um we have another thing on the dock, another item on the docket where the city of Danbury is coming back to us for a referral to do just the same thing.
12:55So my question is in this case, because we're approving this this um resolution.
13:03Does the city of Danbury City Council still have to give us a referral and then it goes back?
13:12I've just put it on the suggestion in the suggestion box to see if we can like just not have to have that go back and forth because that wastes time.
13:21I mean, I'm sure the applicant would be happy with us doing all of this at one time.
13:26All right, that's all I have to say on that.
13:28Thank you very much.
13:31The wheels of government turn slowly, Helen.
13:35We try to make it quick.
13:37Every one of them is painful anyway.
13:41It was the most profound thing I've said in many meetings, but anyway.
13:47Um if there's no other discussion, I'll entertain a motion to approve or deny the resolution of approval with conditions.
13:54Chairman, I'll make a motion to approve.
13:56Chairman, I hope you're saying yes.
13:59Um motion to approve this application with the conditions as stated in the resolution.
14:10All in favor, please say aye.
14:14The mo the resolution of approval is approved.
14:18Okay, Allie, you're two for two.
14:20We're gonna go to number three.
14:21Um, GR GPR owner LP application for floodplain permit for two Great Pasture Road K15109, special exception 754.
14:31This one I noticed was a little shorter, Allie, a little less writing for you, but uh go right ahead.
14:37So um planning commission grant approval in May of 2025 to permit the expansion of the existing outdoor storage and storage of building materials at two Great Pasture Road.
14:50Um there are portions of the property that are located within the numbered AE flood zone of the still river.
15:00Um the base flood elevation for that zone is 355.4 feet.
15:04Um they were not proposing any changes to the existing building.
15:08This was strictly um expansion of that outdoor storage area um on the site.
15:15Um so that finished floor elevation of the building remains the same at 363.4 feet, which is eight feet above the base flood elevation.
15:24Um with all the site work into account, there is a total cut of 334 cubic yards.
15:32Um so the proposed project results in no net fill below the hundred year floodplain.
15:40And then it's just standard requirements at that point.
15:45Questions for Allie on the resolution on this matter.
15:49GPR Allie, is that the um that cut means that um you're getting a little bit more flood storage, right?
16:04Any other questions for Allie?
16:07Hearing none, I will entertain a motion to approve or deny the resolution as submitted.
16:15Chairman, I'll make option.
16:17I'll make a motion to approve this floodplain permit application with the associated administrative requirements herein.
16:28Chairman, I will second that.
16:31Any further discussion?
16:33Hearing none, all in favor, please say aye.
16:37The draft resolution is approved.
16:40Um that's it for um old business for discussion and possible action.
16:48We're gonna move right to referrals.
16:50Speaking of uh sewer extensions going back and forth.
16:53The 824 referral March City Council agenda item number 15, application for sewer extension for 72 Liberty Street.
17:03Okay, so the Department of Planning and Zoning granted site plan approval in December of 2025 to permit the construction of a 12-unit garden apartment development um with associated site improvements.
17:17The municipal sewer main currently exists in Liberty Street and terminates approximately 200 feet away from the subject property.
17:26Um staff has no objection to this request of the sewer extension along Liberty Street to the subject property.
17:36Um yeah, it's kind of it.
17:39Okay, now Allie, I understand they're building is it one building with 12 units in it?
17:46Is that what the intent is?
17:48So it would be um two stories, six units on each floor.
17:53Um with some associated parking and a storm drainage system as well.
18:01Yeah, this go ahead, Bob.
18:06This is the old lose everything property, right?
18:09It it is, and the engineering team had um had some difficulties to work with, as you are aware.
18:16The site, the shape of the site itself um poses some challenges as well as um the east ditch actually runs through it as well.
18:25Um, so the project team had their work cut out for them for this project.
18:30Yeah, it's who remembers Lou's Diner.
18:34Yeah, I've eaten there and I didn't get sick.
18:39I live around the corner from there, so I'm very familiar with this property.
18:45You walk into loose diner, you come out your clothes, I mean you're you're walking up.
18:49You you know immediately the smell of your clothes.
18:52You gotta send them to the dry cleaners or put them in the laundry right away.
18:54But uh you had pretty good chili.
18:58I heard it was killer.
19:00The food up the street at Old Oak is really good.
19:02So you've got that at least.
19:08Well, um, but in the meantime, um I guess this is this is good because I know that the intent of you know the administration is to have uh more residential development in downtown.
19:20And this so this is this is good.
19:22This speaks to that issue.
19:24Um I don't I don't think Ali that this arose out of the rewrite of the the downtown the DTOD because this has been in plan, this has been sort of around for a while, right?
19:36Yeah, this has been around for a bit.
19:38Um it took the team again, has I mentioned the site has some difficulties to work with.
19:43Um the project team went through a couple um preliminary designs of the site um and really worked with the city and public work specifically due to the East Itch restrictions.
19:56Well, I mean, if you know that's good.
20:00We we want more housing downtown.
20:01It's very close to the train station, which is good, so it's very transit friendly.
20:05But um anyway, this is the all we're talking about here is a sewer extension, just a referral for a zoo.
20:11So um, unless there's any other questions for Ali, again, I'll entertain a motion for a positive or a negative referral.
20:18Chairman, I'll make a motion for a positive referral for the sewer extension.
20:22Okay, do I hear a second?
20:24Chairman, I will second that wholeheartedly because I live around the corner.
20:31We have a motion and a second for a positive referral.
20:35All in favor, please say aye.
20:41That ends lose diner and lose everything store.
20:43Well, what are you gonna do?
20:44I just googled the property address and it still shows lose diner there.
20:50That's pretty crazy.
20:51When did they close?
20:52Anybody know when they closed?
20:54Oh, it's been years.
20:55It's been like three or four years, I think, since since they or they were in business.
21:00Okay, uh, we're gonna move on.
21:02There's nothing under new business or correspondence.
21:04We have no other matters for discussion.
21:07Couple of things for reference only that you could take a look at.
21:11Allie, can you think of anything I'm forgetting?
21:13No, I think you've covered all of it, Mr.
21:18Thank you very much.
21:18All right, commission members.
21:20If nothing, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.
21:23Chairman's so moved.
21:30Nice quick meeting tonight.
21:31Everybody can get back to what they were doing.
21:33All in favor, please say aye.