Dayton City Commissioner Maine will not come to order.

Please rise for the um invocation.

We remain standing for the Pledge of Allegiance this morning.

The invocation will be given by Commissioner Joseph.

Thank you, Mayor.

Dear Lord, thank you for your many blessings.

We ask here today for your guidance in your direction as we work to help and serve our community.

Give us your wisdom to lead as you see fit.

Amen.

Amen.

I point your flag of the United States of America.

Thank you.

Oh, Ms.

Jackson.

Sure, Mayor.

They look alike.

Mayor Mims.

Thank you and I agree.

He he I guess he's here.

Yes.

Commissioners Joseph.

Aye.

Shaw.

Fairchild.

Tony Slots.

Aye.

Okay.

May I have a motion then to approve the minutes from the September 3rd meeting.

So move, Your Honor.

Second.

Yes, maybe probably move in a second to have the minutes approve the minutes from the September 3rd meeting.

All in favor say aye.

Aye.

All the opposite say no.

Okay.

So communications, Ms.

Jackson's.

There are none, Your Honor.

You're none.

I know we do have a presentation this morning, so I'd like to have Mr.

Lieutenant Randy Bean.

And on behalf of the Regional Crowd Management Team, he has some good information to share with us.

Got a crew with you, huh?

Yes, sir.

I'm Lieutenant Randy Bean, and I have uh also Doug Gresham, Sergeant Bryan up to Ike and Officer Nate Gilman with me today.

Okay.

Good morning, sir, to all of you.

So we have a proclamation from the mayor.

It says, whereas the City of Dayton proudly recognizes the outstanding service of the Dayton Police Department's regional crowd management team, whose work protects the safety and well-being of our residents and visitors.

And whereas in just the past two years, the team has been deployed more than 40 times to safeguard some of our Dayton's largest and most challenging events, including nationally significant gatherings such as the NATO conference and the Dayton Air Show, as well as beloved community traditions like St.

Patrick's Day and the Parade Festival and the Labor Day celebration.

And whereas the team has also responded with professionalism and resolved the two unique challenges, including the eclipse, street racing, blocked parties, and protest activity while continuing weekly deployment to address disorderly crowds, quality of life issues, and downtown summer activity.

And whereas, even the in the face of lean staffing levels, the regional crowd management team has stepped forward time and time again with careful planning, adaptability, and community engagement, building trust and ensuring safe environment for all who live, work, and celebrate in Dayton.

And whereas their resilience, commitment, and dedication to public safety, embody the highest standards of service, and represent the very best of Dayton Police Department.

Now, therefore, I, Jeffrey J.

Mims Jr., mayor of the City of Dayton, Ohio, on behalf of the City Commission, do hereby command and recommend the Dayton Department Dayton Police Department's regional crowd management team for their exemplary service to the citizens of Dayton and extend our deepest gratitude for their ongoing contributions to the public.

In witness whereof the mayor has signed your proclamation.

Now, just a couple of thoughts before you before you walk away.

Because I know myself and commissioners have something to say to you as well.

But this is very, very special work.

It is hard to fathom the aspect of so many, many people in this crowded spaces, congested spaces, and the aspect of how you are always able to manage without without fault the challenges of keeping everyone safe.

It's a very special talent, and you know you guys are trained for it, and you can do all the kind of things necessary to make it happen.

And I understand there's a lot of work that goes into crowd protection even before you go into those spaces.

Just for a second, if you could just uh highlight just a couple things that you think have helped you uh think about how you can keep the citizens safe as you go through these different programs.

I know NATO was a big issue.

We did a whole bunch of planning relative to that.

But some of the other kind of things, um, anything you want to say?

It's your stage.

Uh I was going to say one of the biggest things we have learned in the past couple of years is uh the use of actual bicycles.

Yes.

People you know were kind of surprised when we did it at first.

But we found officers on bikes are the best way to control crowds.

We can move around much faster and uh um get places, you know, we're not as worn out when we get there.

Okay.

Um the second thing we've actually done is start making contact with a lot of these groups ahead of time.

We found that a lot of people were very receptive to speaking with us, and some people that may not have spoke with police in the past.

They would actually be willing to uh give us their plans, and we would work on a route for uh marches or things like that and help protect them and make the event go much smoother.

So it was actually very surprising, and uh, it was nice to have some of these groups actually working with us.

Okay.

Anything else?

Uh would you want to introduce your team?

Uh yes, this is uh Sergeant Updike, he is the assistant team leader.

Um Officer Gresham, he's one of our officers.

He also runs our cut team, and then uh Officer Spielman would um one of our officers, he takes a more proactive role in the team.

Okay.

I know you have been doing this for a while.

Uh it's in the blood that your father was uh very heavily involved with the uh police uh himself, uh as a kid, say back in the day, you know, a minute or two ago.

Yeah.

Is he around?

Uh actually, him and my mom are in London right now.

I think they come back tomorrow.

Okay.

All right.

So commissioners, thoughts.

Commissioner Slaus.

I just would like to echo the the mayor's com comments.

Thank you very much for your leadership and your service.

We really do appreciate it.

I know there are have been a number of things that have transpired that has pulled you all away from the work that you have been entrusted to do in terms of NATO and other um events, larger events.

So, again, just continue on that path, and and we really do appreciate your service and your leadership.

So, congratulations.

Thank you.

Okay.

Commissioner Fairchild.

Yeah, and uh I want to thank you for your service.

Um I appreciate uh especially appreciate the point you made about working with groups, having in the past in my life, um, organized some marches and some uh parades.

We always try to work cooperatively.

I think we have a common um those groups and others have a common um commitment to First Amendment rights, and so I appreciate you protecting those for our citizens and um balancing that out with the needs of the community.

So thank you for that work.

Um also I just want to recognize the um the personal sacrifice that comes with uh maintaining a police presence in all those.

I know that at times you guys can't take your holidays with family and you miss those times and you get stretched into overtime to do that work, so I really appreciate the personal sacrifice that many people don't realize that you are required to take.

And so thank you.

Commissioner Shaw.

Well said, and thank you for your for your service also, and uh thank you for keeping us safe.

Now, this has been so much uh going on, just kind of reporting back.

It's it's really remarkable the the amount of kind of uh events that we have had lately.

So just thank you.

Keep it up for setting it.

Okay, Commissioner Joseph.

Uh my colleagues have said most of it.

I just want to reiterate that you all are very good at what you do.

We've had international level events here for years and years.

You have always taken care of business.

So if people are surprised at your performance during NATO and how well things went, they haven't been paying attention.

Because you your your your uh your performance has been very well.

Protecting leaders as they come, international level talks, everything uh you have done a great job.

We really appreciate it.

Okay.

All right, guys, thank you again.

Thank you.

Okay.

Uh so Ms.

Jackson, are there any deletions, additions or comments to the calendar?

No, sir.

Okay.

Uh Ms.

Dixtein, any deletions, additions or comments of the calendar.

Uh, Your Honor, this morning I have no additions or deletions to the calendar.

I do have a several items I would like to highlight.

Item number two is a service agreement with A.H.

Sturgel Roofing.

This is a contract modification to continue some of the emergency stabilization and repair work at 34 North Main.

This 1.4 million dollars will is going towards roof replacement, other weatherproofing, debris handling, scaffolding, et cetera.

So it is a continued investment into that significant structure on Main Street.

Item number four is a home full grant agreement.

This is some of the work we do specifically for our unhoused individuals with outreach and supportive services, particularly in the neighborhoods of Highview Hills, Madden Hills, Highview Manor, Pineview, and Bella Vista.

This ensures that people are doing outreach and connecting unhoused individuals to services or preventing individuals from becoming unhoused.

Item B six is an award of contract with Blade Cutters Lawn Service.

This is an investment of $96,400 brought to you by the Dayton Recovery Plan.

This is tree removal services, so $110 trees and 23 stumps in 11 parks across our city are going to be removed.

The parks are Belmont, Burkhart, Claridge, Five Oaks, Gettysburg, Lakeview Lake, Nordale, Residence, Thaal, Vietnam Veterans, and Washington Parks.

So this is another way for us to continue to remove blight out of our from the ash bore and other things that have damaged our trees.

We had eight proposals.

This was the highest scoring.

Blade cutters was a highest scoring proposal.

Item number B7 is also a blade cutters lawn service award of contract with Dayton Recovery Plan once again.

It is for removal of brush and vegetation in 92 properties in Five Oaks neighborhoods specifically.

We had five proposals from our RFP, and this was the highest again, Blade Cutters was a highest scoring applicant.

And then finally, E8 is an agreement of $500,000 with County Corps.

This is going to continue to this this replenishes the maintenance reserve fund for the men's gateway shelter on Gettysburg, and it will help us continue to improve fund uh critical capital improvements to complement the previous investments we've made around HVAC fire panel work, et cetera.

So to try and continue to improve the quality of life at that shelter.

And that's all I have this morning.

Okay.

All right.

So I know there's those goals in terms of minority business goals are very high and they're very good.

At some point in time, maybe next uh couple of weeks or so, maybe get a presentation about how well we're doing as far as those goals are concerned.

Minority business goals we have as far as these projects are concerned.

So, Ms.

Jackson, do we have any citizens who are registered to speak on city manager's recommendations?

No, Your Honor, we do not.

Okay.

So commissioners, comments, thoughts, questions on city managers' recommendations.

Commissioner Tennis Laws.

Yes.

Thank you, Mayor.

Uh thank you, Ms.

Dixteen, for highlighting a number of um items on today's calendar.

I do have a couple of questions.

The first is in regards to calendar item number two.

Um so first I would say that could you just please tell us where we are in this process.

Initially we did approve because of the the wind damage that took place, but I also believe that I, in particular, requested where does this trigger the insurance for the property itself and where are we with making that claim or what is that process look like for us?

And then nonetheless, with the dollar amount that we've already made the investment on, this should in fact trigger a PLA for this particular project, right?

We're well over the threshold of the two million dollars.

This is as emergency work.

No, this does not bring in PLA because there's not the time to go through the process of this wasn't bid normally.

This is a this is an emergency work to stabilize the work and was underway well before we had the PLA signed and executed, the MOU signed and executed.

The first half, right?

The the one point, but now with the additional two, the one point four.

Remember the other thing about the MOU is that these are it's $2 million, and the 1.46.

The 1.4 though is doesn't trigger that.

The first half didn't trigger it because that was emergency work.

This by itself doesn't trigger the PLA.

To get to your insurance questions, the insurance questions, there are two claimants activities.

The first is Stratocash because of the damage that was done to their building.

The second is the is for this building, and that information they are still working through, as far as I know, StratoCash hasn't made a claim yet.

We're still working with the insurance companies, so that's in progress, but as you know, it's not a very fast process.

So go ahead, finish your call, excuse me.

And the city is getting ready to complete uh request for proposal to attract development investment that will be going out soon to attract developers into the project.

Okay.

So I'm gonna back up a little bit.

So you said that the first round of funding that we provided for to stabilize the roofing, right?

For the emergency.

I think it was like 1.6.

1.5.

1.5.

So that piece, you're saying that because it was the emergency and we did not have the PLA in place, and now that we're making the additional investment of the 1.4, but it says contract, continue emergency, continue emergency stabilization, but it's all for the same project.

But it's different, it's a different vendor, it's a completely different project because it was primarily the roof replacement along with some other things.

And it's still only 1.4 million.

It's not too over, it's not two million or over.

It wasn't the same contractor initially.

No.

Okay.

I do not believe so.

I will double check the project.

I believe it was.

I don't believe it was the same because we were knew we had to do a roof, and we had the other prom the other funding went to engineering companies that came and did the stabilization.

They they did the assessment of the structural integrity, and they also fashion the stabilizing brackets around the top for the to anchor the facade.

I believe it was the same contractor.

I think was the difference is is that Shell and Meyer are the engineers.

Shell and Meyer was the engineering conjunction or consultation with the roofing company.

Okay.

Can you just give us some more information about the project?

Because it seems like a a very large amount, and then to your point, right?

We don't even know what the end result of the building is going to be, and we're making this investment.

Understanding that there was due to an unforeseen situation and crisis that took place due to the wind damage, but the amount of money that we're spending to secure a building that we don't know what the end result may be.

Understand, right?

We're doing, we're providing our due diligence, right?

But what I'm what I'm concerned is is that we don't have the necessary provisions in place for that protection to prevent us from having to use these dollars that could be diverted to other areas, i.e.

the men's gate well shelter or Apple Street or any other issues that we see coming down the pipeline as it relates to our unhoused population.

So just want to get more information about this particular project.

And then to your point, like the the end result.

I know you said that there is a potential bid that is going out for the NUs, but want to make sure that this investment that we're making, that there will in fact be a return.

Well, absolutely, Commissioner, and that's why when we we did the we went to the extra effort, not just for the structural integrity for the repairs to stabilize the facade, but we did the whole building structural integrity because we also knew that there needed to be a roof on this to keep it warm and dry, that it we wanted to make sure there was structural integrity.

This is a significant building of significant scale on our main street quarter that doesn't exist anywhere else in the region.

It is very similar to the con to the strategies that we have done with the arcade, the strategies we've done with Center City.

There is a lot of historic equity that sits in that building that can hopefully help churn the development.

And I will also remind you that this property is owned by the land bank right now.

We are in partnership with the land bank, but the city does not own this property right now.

So where is the land bank in this in terms of thank you for bringing that up?

So are they kicking any dollars to help?

The land bank has been very instrumental in making sure and and the agreement was the land bank held the property and the city provided uh the ongoing oversight maintenance.

That was because the land bank doesn't have a lot of revenues to to manage that, right?

And so but they have been very instrumental in these conversations with the insurance company as well as um they will be very instrumental when we put this out for attract development and get an investor.

Okay, all right.

Thank you.

I appreciate that.

And then as I said, if you can just provide a follow-up memo with the details and just lay out where we are in the um the insurance process.

To your point, I know that it is something that is ongoing and can take a number um of months.

Um the other question that I wanted to raise in regards to to homeful, um, thank you for providing this recommendation for the additional outreach work.

Where do you know what that entails?

Like because we can looking at the information, it doesn't specifically give us an update as to what that outreach work will look like.

It is it for permanent placement for housing, is it what does it entail of that additional work for the um, yeah.

This is the outreach work that MVHO does to go into the neighborhoods and um first and foremost, they're addressing anyone they find that's unhoused and trying to make sure that they have good they have identification, that they are connected to services, that the trying to get them to connect to services.

So that is to get them into the queue of services and you know, talking about our shelters, talking about our permittive supportive housing, transitional housing, et cetera.

Um then they also, as they are working in those neighborhoods, as they are um as they identify threats of um unhoused individuals that, you know, for instance, they may run across a family who has someone on their couch who they, you know, family member or whatever, and they will try to work to connect them to services so that they don't become unhoused.

That's the kind of outreach work they're doing.

It's the it's the caseworkers.

Okay.

Um and then my final question is in regards to calendar item uh E8.

And I believe I requested this information.

I don't know if I've seen it, and I apologize if it has if I missed it.

Um but I just would like to get um I think all of us will like to get an understanding because we invested a lot of dollars with the men's gateway shelter um under the the leadership of St.

Vincent DePaul.

I remember a number of contracts that we approved with uh ARPA dollars, um, and and so I just will like to get an understanding as to where we are in the renovations, what all needs to be completed, and what is um what has been completed thus far.

And because again, it just seems like we were not putting a dent in the number of concerns or repairs given that there has been quite a large amount of investment that has been made in the um the shelter itself.

And I know there is a lot of you know, wear and tear and use that goes along with the shelter itself.

So if we could just give some information, that that work is underway.

They uh are have finished the initial assessment, figuring out the um costing associated with that is is uh is going on right now, as well as some of the you know conversations around master planning for enhancements.

And so that work is underway.

The work that's been done to date is some HVAC emergency repair so that there was air conditioning in the summer and fire panel connectivity, because we were never informed that the fire panel was disconnected to our fire department.

And so those were two life safety critical issues that we addressed right away, and now they're going through and prioritizing and developing the costs for each of the for the list of things that need to be addressed.

Okay, great.

Because I know I think it was just last week or two weeks ago we approved $300,000 for the men's gateway shelters.

So okay, and I do know that there was an issue with the fire panel to your point in HVAC.

So thank you.

If we could just get a comprehensive list and show us where um what is done and what is um underway.

So thank you.

That's one of the questions I have.

And kudos to all of the um the um the investments that are being made in the in the park.

So thank you very much for bringing that forward.

That's all I have.

Thank you.

Okay, thank you very much.

Uh Commissioner Felchow.

Yeah, the conversation around 34 North Maine raised a couple other questions.

I mean, in fact, it is the same company.

Um, this is an amendment to a contract, right?

So it has to be the same contractor.

That's a fair point.

I like I said, I'll go back and make sure, but it's it's continuing emergency stabilization and a contract modification.

So yes, it's probably the same.

I just wanted double-there were other factors that were paid in through Sturgile, with like I said, all the engineering work.

And when you looked at the scope of services, if I heard you right, you're saying that the first contract went to the stabilization and this is going to for putting on the new roof.

This is going on primarily for the new roof, but there's other work that was continued.

Because the first contract called for the new roof.

Yeah.

And so, and when you look at the scope of services provided, they're almost identical with a small section that look like more stabilization work.

So it seems like somehow we got the bid wrong on the first contract.

And I'm curious if we've got the stabilization done, does it then create the space for us to go and bid this competitively so we make sure we get the you know uh the lowest, you know, most competitive bid for this work.

Um, I I think maybe we table this until we get some clear a clear understanding of what work's been completed, what work was supposed to be included in the first contract, and why now we're getting asked to pay 1.4 more million dollars when it appeared like that first contract was to stabilize and add the roof.

Okay, we did additional comments?

All right.

Mr.

Gado?

Uh Mayor, Commissioner, City Manager.

Steve Gone.

I don't know what your backup title is.

Uh Steve Gonnell, director for PND.

Thank you for allowing me to kind of maybe clarify this.

Um 34 North Maine kind of fell under PND's response.

So what you're looking at is kind of two parts.

Um Sturgile is our kind of our prime on this.

There are many subs from the crane to the masons that are doing the brick work, um, some of the plumbing work in there.

So what we're asking here is we knew that the first when we put forward the first part was that we had a need for stabilization, uh, and then subsequently we're gonna have roof work as well.

And the roof work we knew when we were doing the asbestos remediation, we were aware that it was so compromised that they we were planning for this.

We already had an existing quote um probably back in 2023 about to understand what that need would be.

Unfortunately, when the parapet fell, it then exposed the roof's inch, it's a two-part roof.

There's a concrete and then the rubber roof is actually about six feet up off of that on these like wooden posts.

So what happens when the parapet fell, it exposed the under roof.

So you imagine like the breeze that knocked the parapet wall off, could actually then start heaving the roof.

So we knew that we were gonna kind of bring these both together.

The point here though is we're not this is um the two funding sources are separate.

One is HUD, and one is through our general funds.

So in Commissioner, in your response to like um the labor, actually we're using prevailing wage on this.

So the HUD, uh the use of the HUD funds for the roof, which we always envisioned doing, triggered prevailing wage for the whole project.

So we're we're we've applied prevailing wage to the stabilization work and the roofing work.

So we do have that mechanism in place because with HUD, to use any of it, you have to do it all of it.

So we have that, and that has been um we've had full compliance on the prevailing wage portion of that, all the documentation.

And so what I'm asking here today is this is really the two we knew we had two funding things.

We knew the roof would be about at one and a half, and we did the stabilization be in about one and a half.

So we went forth with the the initial one up front, but we got the documentation uh together for the additional part.

So that's all we're asking here, is just kind of continue um so that we can wrap up this project.

Um because they were so intertwined.

The roof could not be left, and there were things that they had to do to the roof while they were clearing out the uh compromised wall.

And so um, but yeah, there was Sturgeil has been kind of the prime, but all the other subs, including Shon Meyer, um Wis Janny are other structural engineers, so there's a lot of ones that have fallen under that.

Why didn't this come together back in June?

Because it happened in March.

You had these plans, it funding came to June.

It seems like in June you knew that there was going to be the second part.

Because if I look at the scope of work, it includes the things that you are talking about doing now.

And so why wasn't the whole project brought to us at one time?

So we knew we had had the HUD funds already reserved, so we knew we had those.

It was then identifying with M and B staff uh where we would pull the city's funds.

So it because it was an unexpected expense.

Um we were then trying to determine which account that we would uh be able to utilize to off to pay for our portion of the cost.

And so that is probably the biggest reason was us trying because we did not intend uh for the stabilization cost.

The first contract included two sources of funding.

It was part hood, it was part general fund or part um capital funding.

And again, if you look at this the scope of the work, it included the things that you're talking about now.

And so it feels like we weren't completely accurate in the in the process in terms of what we were paying for on the first contract.

I'm curious if we're in compliance with contract now.

If the I mean, it seems like the contractors should be on the hook for all the things that they said they were going to do.

And so it seems like almost now we're paying, you know, I don't know if the bid was wrong.

No.

Commissioner, I I think one of the things that we have to remember is that the city declared an emergency and started work within a week of that parapet wall falling in March, because we didn't know the rest of the structure and what was going on.

So some of this is similar to what I would call a um construction management risk.

We were learning as we went, the contract ended up coming and following up after we had already started work and discovery, because we had to because of the emergency nature of the situation.

So they were, you know, trying to stabilize and keep more debris from falling while they were trying to figure out what that scope was going to be when it finally came before you.

That was to address the first part, the most critical parts of that.

But they had a good idea of what all of the envelope work that would be needed to stabilize the building, but that wasn't flushed out with the first part, because the first part was critical in nature for us to move forward.

And they were also, as he noted, trying to put the funding together for the larger envelope of improvements.

But that's not what was portrayed in June.

So it happened in March, emergency situation.

We bring in engineers, and at some point they gave us in in, I assume because two months later we voted on it, right?

So somewhere in those two months, we probably would have had a good idea to the point that you came to us and asked us to sign a contract for stabilization and roof replacement.

And now here we are, three months later, being asked to pay another 1.4 million for basically what was included in that first contract.

And that's where it doesn't make sense to me.

So, Commissioner, before the pair, before we had any damage, we knew the roof was going to be one and a half million dollars.

So this is not a contractor overrunning a budget.

There was, you know, we knew that for certain because they had already prepared that well before.

Uh so we we had that part down.

So we knew we could go ahead, and as city manager noted, the as we were getting into the building and discovering and everything being done there is all it is limited just to necessary limited things.

We're not doing anything beyond uh improving of the building.

Uh as we mentioned with resale, we're leaving it.

We are just handling the structural integrity of that.

And so we knew that roof cost of well before.

So that part we were certain.

The other part was that as we were getting in there and learning from them and kind of going through as to what the degree and range of the stabilization work would be, is how we got a finer picture on what we're at today, is uh the the second part of that.

So this is really just kind of more the the fine-tuned focused kind of request is that uh continue that work, but we knew again that roofing work was a separate entity.

So I don't want it to be that we thought for a million and a half, we could do the roof and stabilization.

We knew that that was the cost of the roof, but we knew that we could get that forward first with you all.

Well, we one determined the scope of the work to be repaired and the how we were gonna pay for it, because that again was we didn't go through the budget cycle on this.

We didn't say, hey, we have this long-range plan.

It was go and MB, help us find money that we are allowed to use to put towards this work.

So that was the other thing that was important in that first contract and why we didn't have it, have the roof completely funded.

There was roof work that had to be done just for the stabilization because when the wall fell, there was an opening to the roof, and they had to remod they had to modify the roof and the wall were in that corner.

But we had to do all of the stabilization, the engineering to evaluate the integrity, the structural integrity of the building.

And that took us three months to get through to understand, because we weren't going to go ahead and put more money into it.

We had to stabilize the roof the wall regardless and stabilize any more debris from falling.

But replacing the roof wouldn't have happened if the engineers would have come back and said, there's significant structural integrity issues with this building.

So that was also why we did this first work, because I wouldn't approve the repla the investment of the roof until we knew it made sense that we had a tight envelope that we could go out and attract a developer to and redevelop the building.

And I just I want to uh you know this is a small family-owned Dayton business.

Delaying this will delay their ability to make to pay their staff and their vendors.

And so again, I stand here in confidence that this there is nothing out of line with the work that's been done.

I walked the building, and if you know, there are no elevators in that building.

So I walked 15 flights of stairs.

Uh it took a while.

I had to stop a few times.

But um I personally, I mean, uh serving, you know, the city manager in this role is walking to understand exactly we are doing the core, the bare minimum of what needs to be done, but everything is done to what has been proposed.

But I just have grave concern, delaying this will impact their ability to then pay their vendors and their staff.

And that's okay.

Excuse me.

The the issue.

Commissioner, you have your time.

It's my turn right now.

I understand that, but those are your questions.

I do have questions from Mr.

Here's the issue.

Because I did not get an opportunity to post questions.

Commissioner, everyone would have a chance to speak.

You had your chance.

But I didn't have opportunity to speak to Mr.

Dongo.

No, here's the situation.

My question is.

That was called up for Commissioner Fairchild.

Exactly.

Please excuse me for this one second.

The issue at hand.

We have had this information since Friday.

Okay.

All the Commissioners had this information since Friday.

There's some legitimate concerns that are being raised.

My uh request is that we vote on this separately.

And so I have uh a motion wheel to pull this and we vote on it separately.

And those individuals who still have doubt can vote no.

Those who trust the staff conversations that we have had, the information that we have, they can vote yes, or however they choose to vote.

So that's how we are going to do that.

This packet, these packages that we receive on a timely basis, gives us chance to ask city manager questions, to have staff answer questions along with the city manager, and not to give the appearance to staff or to whoever is watching these meetings that staff is doing something wrong, and you're leading us down the wrong path, or that we miss spending money.

That is not the perception that we want to give our uh audience who is watching, or for the citizens or for those who are contractors who are doing work as well.

So again, I am going to say to us we are gonna pull this item and vote on this item separately, and we are gonna move on.

Commissioner Fairchild, thank you for your questions.

That is very disrespectful and insecure.

Commissioner didn't even make that comment.

Because we are doing our due diligence by posing questions.

You say that that and suggest that as a means for us not trusting the staff.

You have had this packet since Friday.

So what?

And just because we choose not to ask questions that is the customer.

I'm clear about what I'm voting.

I'm clear about what I'm doing.

Commissioner Commissioner Shaw, Commissioner Fit.

That is not disrespectful because we're Commissioner Tonos Los.

Nor is reflection on our confidence in the staff.

And for you to suggest that is insecure, and you don't know your role as an elected member of the spot.

That is very difficult to do.

Okay.

Show your comments.

They are legitimate questions.

I would like to move forward.

I'm not done with my comments.

And he is not done with his questions.

And then you didn't even give me an opportunity to pose questions to Mr.

Dongle after Ms.

Dixtean called him up.

This is uh the move that we're gonna make.

We're gonna vote on separately if you choose to vote.

No.

That the mayor once again is being isn't responsible in his role as the presiding to suggest that we can't pose any questions.

Okay, thank you.

Commissioner Shaw.

Mayor, I don't get to ask my finish my conversation.

Will you finish?

Well, Commissioner, I already said what we're gonna do.

So we go vote separately.

If you have another question you want to ask, please.

But I still have comments and you can't go ahead.

No.

Commissioner Fairchild.

Go ahead with your questions.

Yeah.

No, I just pulled up the contract from June 4th and it says roof replacement.

So this is an amendment onto a contract.

It's not coming back for a separate project.

So it seemed like we knew the scope of what we were asking the commission to fund back in June, but we didn't give us the full information that there were going to be additional funding that was going to be required to fulfill the contract.

And if you look at the what was added into the scope, it doesn't match with what we're hearing here today.

And to your point, Mayor.

The questions that came to me came from the conversation earlier when we were told that it was a different contractor, which is not, it's the same contractor.

I'm looking at the June 4th, it's surgical again.

So to imply that somehow I didn't do my work is disrespectful.

Okay, thank you for your comments.

Commissioner Shaw.

I'm good.

Commissioner Joseph.

Questions?

Just a small one, and it's uh on the contract that's going to remove trees from our parks.

Excuse me.

I really appreciate that.

Uh for whatever reason I found myself in a lot of parks this summer, different celebrations and soccer and different things, and there are a lot of stumps that need to be removed, unsightly, a lot of old ash trees.

I'm glad about that.

But one thing that I would ask, if there ends up being a little room on these on these contracts, there are a lot of uh the little uh they call them suckers, little trees growing up from the stumps or from uh from existing trees.

It'd be great if we get some of those removed too.

So I would just say if if there ends up being a little more room on that contract, it might be a good use of the money.

And I think it's in all the parks pretty much that uh just you know I I know that uh they're hard to keep control of, but if we do have a little extra space, I appreciate that.

Great.

Thank you.

Okay, so I'll take uh a motion if we would like to vote on this issue separately.

Uh I move to uh separate the two issues and vote on the um that was number two separately.

So you have to move.

I did move for that to vote separately.

All right.

Um probably want to say it this way.

You want to say uh I move to approve uh item two, city manager's recommendations.

And I second that we moved and seconded to approve item two of the City Manager's recommendations.

All in favor say aye.

Aye.

All opposed say no.

Abstain.

I'm upstairs.

We heard you abstain.

Okay.

Abstaining, and I'm please let the record show that I am abstaining to calendar item number two, because we have not received all of the requested information in regards to why there is a a similar scope, but there um is a different in the um execution of the contract.

So please make that noted.

Okay, comments and note it.

Thank you.

So Your Honor, I move for the uh approval of the the rest of the City Manager's recommendations this morning.

Second, second.

Aye.

All opposed say no.

Okay, thank you.

Uh legislation, Ms.

Black Sheer or Ms.

Jackson.

Thank you.

First reading ordinance number 32157-25, appropriating property disignated as parcels 13 SH and 25T in connection with the Finley Street Reconstruction Project.

First reading, ordinance number 321 58-25, amending sections 150 point 130 point 3A 50.130.7 150 point one three zero point eight B.

150.130 point eight D, and 150.130.9A of the revised code of general ordinance relating to the zoning code.

Second reading resolution number 6886-25, declaring the intention of appropriate real property interest in Parcel 94 T and 127 T in connection with the Salem Avenue Reconstruction Phase 4 project.

Mayor Mims.

Aye.

Commissioners Joseph.

Shaw.

Aye.

Fairchild.

Aye.

Turner Schloss.

Aye.

Ms.

Jackson, do we have any uh citizens who are registered to speak?

Yes, Mayor.

We have one citizen who is registered to speak.

I would like to state there is a three-minute time limit as you address the commission.

We ask you that you state your name and address for the record.

At that time, I will turn on the green light.

Then the green light will come on.

You will have three minutes to speak.

After you have spoken two and a half minutes, a yellow light will come on.

You will have 30 seconds remaining to speak.

When the red light comes on, you will be asked to cease your comments and take your seat.

To the audience in attendance, please be mindful, this is a business meeting.

And we kindly request that during this portion of the meeting, you referring from any hand clapping, finger snapping, and conversations that would prevent the city commission from hearing the speaker's comments.

I am calling Mr.

Wontenza to the podium.

Good morning.

Good morning, everyone.

You may begin.

And since Donald Trump, it has actually become worse if that's possible.

So to that end, I'd like to remind us accurately that at the beginning of World War II, the following U.S.

companies did business with and therefore supported Nazi Germany's genocide, uh Ford Motor Company, General Motors, ITT, Coca-Cola, Standard Oil, IBM, and Eastern Kodak, as well as the film industry, um universal pictures, all did business with Nazi Germany.

Um as we speak, Israel is emulating Nazi Germany and its genocide of the Palestinian people.

In fact, the Israeli military is targeting children and those wounded children, um, thanks to the House of Representatives, have been barred National House of Representatives.

Those wounded children have been barred from coming to the U.S.

to have their injuries uh serviced in U.S.

hospitals.

So, um will the Dayton City Commission support Israel in its present-day genocide?

Um, Mayor Mims, and Commissioner Joseph.

Why are you supporting this genocide?

I think that you owe the public an explanation as to why you are supporting Israel in spite of what they are doing.

Thank you.

Thank you for your comments.

Thank you.

Mayor, that is all we have.

Okay.

Mr.

16, do you have any closing comments?

I have none, Your Honor.

Okay.

Mr.

Jackson, you have any closing comments?

Yes, Mayor, I do.

There's a work session on small business strategies immediately following the this morning meeting on the MES in the PRC room.

That is all.

Okay.

All right, Commissioners, closing comments.

Commissioner Turner Slaus.

Yes, thank you, Mayor.

I just wanted to again to first dump and let it be known.

I once was on the other side and served as a former member of the City of Dayton in the Department of Planning and Community Development.

And with that being said, I value every last member, every 1600 member of this organization, and I trust the work, and not only do I trust the work, the recommendations that become before this body as a member of the Commission.

So please know that again, I value your work, and I thank you all for your service and your commitment.

You are in fact the top of the line public servants for the Dayton community and as well as an example for the entire region.

So thank you for your service.

Thank you for your commitment.

And with that being said, I just ask that again, we're giving the courtesy and the respect that is due to all of us, is that when we ask for information, that information is given to us, but we also receive that level of courtesy and respect from our colleagues when in fact we pose questions.

It is no way or no means to denigate anyone or to suggest that we do not trust the recommendations before us.

But it is in fact our due diligence and our job to make sure that we are posing those questions.

And so again, I thank the Commission for your um your leadership, and I also thank the staff.

And so again, I just want that to be noted on the record.

Um I don't have any other further comments.

Just would like to acknowledge all of the various different events that took place this past weekend, um, the walk for scholars, the great work that is being done in addition to providing the um tuition assistance for students in Liberia.

Um there were a number of events that took place downtown, um, the RB uh fifth annual, I believe it was the fifth annual concert, which was well attended, a great success.

And then in addition to the number of youth and recreational uh department services and and events that are taking place.

I understand that they have their after-school program that is now uh taking place, and the new home to school programs being offered at Low Rye on Thursday from 11 a.m.

to noon.

It's free.

The program is for youth, five uh through seventeen, ages five through seventeen, excuse me, um, and is structured with a a gym class designed for homeschool students to stay active and engaged through a variety of physical activity games and team sports.

Registration is required, and then there's a new program, uh, the Leap Dance.

This program is designed to help participants build confidence, resilience, and dance skills in a supportive way, fund environment, and registration open September the 22nd, ages 7 through 18, and there is a fee of 25 dollars.

Thank you, uh Ms.

Reaper for providing these um talking points.

And that is all I have.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Commissioner Fairchild.

Yeah, I just want to add on to the conversation, and particularly to Commissioner Shaw's point about knowing what we're voting on.

If you compare the contracts from previous to this time, in the June 4th contract, we voted to the scope of work included uh wook deck wood deck roof areas, structural or lightweight, concrete deck areas, and additional scope items.

And what was added into this contract is stabilization and emergency work.

And so I'm not quite sure how this got flipped.

It seemed like the first one should have been the emergency and stabilization work, but that is what is being added onto the scope of work now.

And so my concern was that wasn't what I was hearing from the city manager in the explanation of this contract.

And the reason I asked for it to be tabled so that we get some clarity because I don't know where and we're we're all human, we make mistakes.

I am sure there's a uh you know, an innocent explanation here, but it just wasn't making sense to what we were being asked to vote on.

And when you're talking voting on 1.4 million dollars, particularly in a budget where every dollar is important, I think these are serious questions and serious work that we should be doing.

Um to our staff, I'm looking forward on Friday to being with you at the Health and Wellness Fair and being able to recognize the hard work you do every day for our citizens, you know, and uh I value the work our our our staff do, and I look forward to celebrating with you and recognizing you for that work.

And I would um like to say I believe this coming weekend is the last weekend at the Levitt, including ending with the Jazz Fest.

And so encourage people to come out.

Hopefully we have beautiful weather like we had this past weekend, and we can celebrate that together.

Okay, Commissioner Shaw.

Uh the Montgomery County Workforce Development Development Department is hosting a job fair on Thursday, September 25th from 12 to 4 uh at the Dayton Convention Center.

Job seekers can access on-site interviews and resume assistance, and you can register at the jobcenter.org.

Also, the Victory Project is looking for volunteers this Saturday, September 13th at 9 a.m.

to help move items from the middle school campus to the high school campus.

And if you're able to help, please contact Kim Cooper at Kim C at Victory Project.org.

Okay.

Commissioner Joseph.

Uh thank you, Mayor.

Uh, a couple of things.

Uh first, uh this Commission has unanimously proven itself time and time again to be on the side of dialogue and peace in a conflict in the Middle East.

Uh we were one of the first to the table with a resolution calling for a ceasefire.

We unanimously passed, and we worked hard on to get that put together and passed quickly.

Our sister cities organization has sister cities in both Israel and Palestine, one of the few uh cities that has that.

Uh we encourage dialogue between those sister cities.

We've hosted our sister cities group, did it in public, which is difficult to do.

Uh we even hosted a representative of our Palestinian sister city here last week, uh had a fruitful series of meetings.

Uh we are firmly on the side of peace.

We're firmly on the five on the side, as we have been of City of Peace for many years, and we will continue to do so.

So I would suggest that maybe we need to check our sources for where information is coming from.

Second uh thing I want to bring up is uh I want to thank, as Commissioner did, our staff for the excellent emergency work on 34th North Maine.

Uh that was a surprise to everyone.

Uh I had uh, as the city manager mentioned a moment ago, we didn't know the extent of the damage.

We didn't know the extent of the of how bad things were.

Uh so our staff prepared for the worst, and it turns out it's not as bad as it could have been, and they're doing their best to make sure that things are taken care of in the in the correct order in the right way.

Uh this just to remind people, this is a building that was sort of thrust in our lap.

It's a key portion of our downtown.

It has great potential for future use, not unlike another building which is in can I say crappy shape, the arcade, uh, which has turned out great for us now.

It's it's brought jobs, it's brought uh outreach, it's brought great things to downtown vitality.

This is another building that has uh great potential.

And as a city, there's really nobody else who's gonna take it on, and here we are.

So we're it's in our lap, and we're doing the best we can with it, which is actually very good because we're on a path now to have someone in there to make it a productive building, uh to have people going in and out of there like they were 20 years ago and put it at back into productive use.

So that's the situation that we found ourselves.

That's why we're spending money on it.

That's why we need to spend money on it, because there's nobody else that's gonna do it.

So the alternative is to let it rot and start hitting other buildings around it uh or spend a whole lot of money to take it down when that's not a really good option when we could use it and make it better for the city and our residents uh and make it a better use and a productive use in the future.

So I commend the staff for their work on this.

It was thrust in our lap, and in emergency, you all perform very well.

Um, this this next part, this is gonna be a little unusual.

We're gonna pull back the curtain a little bit.

So uh I've been here a little bit, I know the procedures, uh I think I'm probably uh uh authoritative enough to speak on this.

Uh that you heard talk a little bit ago about packets and when they arrive.

So we get, for those of you who don't understand or don't know, every week, every Friday, we get a packet that has a list of all the legislation we're going to be considering that next Wednesday.

It has background information.

The packet can be two or three hundred pages sometimes.

It's a big, big packet.

Some of us get it electronically, some prefer the old school, but we all get the pack it.

Um due to a couple reasons, courtesy, I think, and probably also practical reasons.

We traditionally try to read that packet on on Friday or Saturday, maybe sometime during the weekend.

And if there's something that we see that we have a question about that we know is probably going to take the manager and her staff a little bit of time to go back and read and research or call somebody, we try to get those questions to her pretty quickly.

I mean, uh so usually I try by Saturday or Sunday to have questions so that Monday morning manager can get with staff and we have answers by by Wednesday.

Now, that's a courtesy.

There's it doesn't say anywhere in our regulations, our laws that city commission must read the the packet on Friday and get questions to city manager by you know by Sunday.

It's just not there.

But by tradition and courtesy, it makes a lot of sense because some of the questions that we come up with are relatively complex.

And for things like this, where people's livelihoods are at stake, the stability of a building is at stake, uh, we need to make sure we're ready to vote on Wednesday.

So uh the act, and this is what they were trying to get at before, and I wanted to give background.

What these guys are trying to get at before is that the act of bringing up uh something as a surprise on Wednesday is more a political act than uh uh like a policy act.

So if you if you want to surprise somebody and sort of put them on their back foot and not they not have an answer ready for you to vote, that's how you do it.

You surprise somebody with a question on Wednesday.

So I would suggest that I just want I just I don't suggest anything.

People are allowed to do what they want.

People can ask questions, people can act politically and in uh whatever manner they like.

That's what we were elected to do, right?

But I just wanted to pull back the curtain a little bit and give people some insight on what what that meant with the packet coming uh and uh well anyway.

So you have the other point.

I and I also wanted to make sure to make the point before I forget that thank you for making sure this this entire project was prevailing wage.

Since our husband's HUD money in there, it was gonna happen anyway, but I appreciate your bringing out so people know that we are definitely taking care of our our labor brothers and sisters on this one.

So let the record shall we receive the packet on Saturday.

Excuse me, Commissioner.

All right.

So note that speech commissioner, you had your opportunity to speak.

Repeatedly this Friday.

Okay.

Okay.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

So anyway, uh I do have two, if I could, Mayor.

You please.

Uh want to ask folks to support the Kaiser School shoe and belt closet.

Uh Kaiser Elementary School is an excellent school that has, I think they speak their the kids speak over 30 languages at home.

Uh it is amazing to walk around there.

Uh the principal is a good guy.

Uh and and it's uh it's amazing.

I go to there to read whenever I can to the to the students.

But they have a shoe and belt closet which provides you know essential shoes and belts to students at Kaiser Elementary.

Uh there are a number of ways.

You know what?

I'm gonna have to get more information on this because I need to put out a website or something.

Uh you can actually probably call Kaiser Elementary if you're able to donate new shoes or new belts.

Uh I know that an easy way to do that is to go to Amazon and order some kids' shoes and belts.

And in fact, uh Rue Gray, who uh works there, is an excellent person, uh great organizer, already has a list prepared on Amazon.

And I apologize I wasn't prepared with that list or an address for it.

Uh but I will come back next week.

So we'll I'll come back next week with uh with a better way for you to get that.

But please keep it in mind uh donations to the Kaiser Shoe and Belt Closet.

And I'm gonna make sure I get better information next week.

Uh also my neighborhood, Belmont East Mount Hearthstone Community Council is hosting a neighborhood cleanup this Saturday.

Next weekend is Belmont Days, which is our our festival downtown Belmont on Watervolite there.

Uh we host a cleanup the Saturday before where we make sure that everything is spick and span and spotless as much as possible in Belmont.

Uh and we appreciate anybody's help.

We're gonna meet at the parking lot behind Taco Bell at 10 a.m.

on Saturday.

So hope you can make it there.

I look forward to seeing you.

Okay.

Good.

So my my colleagues have said a lot, and I don't think there's a need to rehash any of that.

Uh, I think our points have been made very clear.

Uh, do want to indicate that the this Saturday morning at um eight o'clock, we have the African American uh wellness walk.

And I think that location is um my Island Park.

Island Park.

Thank you.

Island Park, uh eight o'clock this morning.

You may want to get there a little bit early.

I think they have some t shirts to give out and do a little stretching and working out so you won't have any any muscles that are pulled as you go through that process.

So uh love and peace for all, hatred for none.

If there's no further business to come up with this commission, this meeting is adjourned.

Thank you very much.