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Deltona City Commission Workshop on FY 2025-2026 Budget – July 14, 2025

City Commission & Boards — Monday, July 14, 2025
BodyDeltona, Florida
SessionCity Commission & Boards
DateMonday, July 14, 2025
StatusFILED
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Speaker numbers apply only to this recording.

Unassigned speaker

1:42

All

Speaker 1

1:43

right, we're gonna go ahead and get started with this city commission workshop from Monday, July 14, 2025.

1:49

And if I can please have the city clerk call the rule.

Unassigned speaker

1:54

Commissioner

Speaker 2

1:54

Bilobasquez.

1:58

Commissioner Callwell.

1:59

Here.

1:59

Commissioner Howington?

2:01

Commissioner Lelly?

2:02

Present.

2:02

Commissioner Santiago?

2:04

Here.

2:04

Vice Mayor Harriet.

Speaker 1

2:05

Present.

Speaker 2

2:05

Mayor Bella.

Speaker 1

2:06

Here.

Unassigned speaker

2:07

All right,

Speaker 1

2:07

if we can please stand for the pledge and I'll have Commissioner Cole do the pledge of allegiance.

Speaker 3

2:15

The flag of the United States of America.

2:21

Under God for all.

Speaker 1

2:28

All right.

2:29

Just before we get started, uh we are gonna be having more use of our mics, and they just wanted me to let you know that uh the request to speak will now be on here.

2:39

So if you if anybody wants to click on the speak button to test it out, for example, like Commissioner Howington's come out, it should be blue, and then I click on them and then the mic will turn on, and that's how we're gonna do it with a new system.

2:51

So all right.

2:53

Uh we're going straight to Mr.

2:55

McKinney, so we can start with the budget discussions.

Speaker 4

3:06

Uh Mayor, thank you.

3:08

Uh we talked uh a little bit about the budget timeline back in uh February and May.

3:12

We're doing CIP and June, uh, some other timelines and discussions.

3:16

So tonight, uh John for our finance director here, John McKinney is going to give an overview uh a little bit.

3:21

Of course, uh being a workshop tonight, no final decisions are made for for anything tonight.

3:25

This is just to uh to get us started here, and I think John will give a little prequel.

3:29

Thank you,

Speaker 5

3:30

John.

Unassigned speaker

3:30

Uh

Speaker 5

3:31

Mayor and Commission.

3:32

Uh, tonight we are here to discuss the fiscal year 2025-2026 budget.

3:36

We will provide summary information on operation operational budgets to include revenue estimates, special assessments, and recap of our CIP and capital outlay.

3:45

As the budget is a fluid process, there will be changes communicated to you up until the final public hearing on September 15th.

3:52

I want to thank all of the department directors and their staff for meeting the zero-based budget target.

3:57

I want to thank finance specifically, Keong and Tori, and Audrey for all that they have done these past two weeks to assist me with getting the executive budget summary and presentation completed for tonight.

4:08

All this within two weeks since we wrapped up our annual audit and submitted to all required parties the ACFER.

4:13

My staff and I go from audit to budget and vice versa.

4:16

I just scheduled interim audit for the beginning of September.

4:19

Next year I foresee a big change in timing when we are fully staffed.

4:23

This is caused by finance struggling to fill the multiple vacancies.

4:26

Like everyone, this causes finance to prioritize based on due dates.

4:30

So I really appreciate finance staff stepping up to meet all our deadlines.

5:02

So

Unassigned speaker

5:07

I

Speaker 6

5:07

have a quick question.

Speaker 1

5:08

Commissioner Villavaskos.

Speaker 6

5:10

John, I have a quick question.

5:11

Um I know you sent some updates through email.

5:15

Um I didn't have uh Wi-Fi in my house through the whole day.

5:20

Is this it?

5:21

Is this what you said?

Speaker 5

5:23

Uh uh no ma'am.

5:24

What we sent earlier today was just the presentation.

5:28

So even though your copy that went out earlier didn't say 4 p.m.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Budget Equity Analysis████████████████████████████████████████████44%
Water And Wastewater Management█████████████13%
Fiscal Sustainability███████████11%
Public Safety████████8%
Domestic Violence Support██████6%
Procedural█████5%
Personnel Matters███3%
Street Lighting███3%
Procurement Policy██2%
Summary of Proceedings

Deltona City Commission Workshop on FY 2025-2026 Budget – July 14, 2025

The Deltona City Commission held a workshop on Monday, July 14, 2025, from 5:30 PM to 7:30 PM to discuss the proposed Fiscal Year 2025-2026 budget. No final decisions were made; the workshop served as a working session to review revenue estimates, operational budgets, special assessments, and capital plans. The meeting was led by Mayor Avila, with Finance Director John McKinney presenting. Two members of the public provided comments at the end of the session.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Courtney Crossburg (resident): Questioned the proposed $1 million in legal fees, suggesting participation in a class-action lawsuit to reduce costs. Also asked about the possibility of converting the city’s water utility into a cooperative to lower rates for residents.
  • Pat Blog (resident): Expressed frustration over the prolonged delay in raising impact fees, criticized high water costs and the water quality, questioned the $1 million litigation budget, noted planned stormwater fee increases, and alleged that code compliance has been harassing residents.

Discussion Items

  • Budget Overview & Key Drivers: Finance Director McKinney presented a total citywide budget of $234,051,275 and a general fund budget of $76,663,842, balanced at a proposed millage rate of 6.75 mills. Key cost drivers include a 2% CPI (May 2025), a 5% general employee salary increase (to remain competitive), a 10% increase in property/casualty insurance, flat health insurance (with potential reductions from a new vendor), and a 10% reduction in state revenue sharing. The budget includes $2 million in enhancements, $73.7 million in capital improvement projects (including $1 million for flood-prone land acquisition), and $5 million for capital replacement.
  • Revenue Estimates & Rate Studies: Staff outlined plans to bring forward rate consultants for water/sewer, impact fees, building permits, and fire assessments. Impact fee study is expected to take 12 months and would not take effect until FY 2026-27. Commissioner Howington and Commissioner Lulli expressed concern about the lengthy timeline and urged expediting. The City Attorney noted that a general government impact fee may not be supported by sufficient capital needs. Discussion also covered stormwater and solid waste special assessments, which are proposed to be included on the TRIM notice to save on mailing costs.
  • Water/Sewer Rates: Commissioner Lulli highlighted that Deltona’s water rates (especially tier 4: $17.98 per 1,000 gallons above 20,000 gallons) are far higher than neighboring utilities. He opposed any increase and requested a study on possible reductions. Vice Mayor Heriot asked for the base rate and tier structure. Finance Director McKinney acknowledged the issue and noted the rate consultant will address it.
  • Fire Department and Transport Division: A new Fire Transport division is proposed, adding 6.9 additional personnel for a fourth transport unit at an estimated cost of nearly $700,000. Transport revenue and lost revenue recovery are expected to offset most costs, leaving about $143,000 from the general fund. The separation of transport from fire services is intended to comply with fire assessment rules. The budget also includes $25,000 for the Emergency Operations Center.
  • City Commission Budget: Commissioner Santiago noted the commission budget shows a 302% increase, largely due to $1 million in litigation funds (related to potential lawsuit against SB 180) and $500,000 for fraud compliance. McKinney explained these are estimates based on prior discussions and auditor recommendations.
  • Domestic Violence and Youth Programs: Vice Mayor Heriot requested a dedicated victim advocate within the Sheriff’s contract for Deltona, following a domestic violence homicide and increased reporting. Commissioner Avila-Vazquez noted existing non-profits and suggested using City Hall space for survivors. Commissioner Howington urged expanded youth programs for ages 12-16, with needs-based funding. Staff will explore grants and partnerships.
  • Street Lighting: Vice Mayor Heriot and Commissioner Lulli asked about expanding residential street lighting, including dark-sky-friendly options. Staff reported rough estimates are being developed and will be presented in a future workshop (likely October/November).
  • Millage Rate and Tax Base: McKinney provided historical millage rates and taxable value data. He noted that 18% of city parcels pay no city taxes, and the average residential taxable value is $123,000, up from $60,000 in 2020. The proposed 6.75 mills continues a trend of rate reduction.

Key Outcomes

  • No votes were taken; all actions are preliminary and will be formally considered at upcoming meetings.
  • Next steps:
    • July 21, 2025: Regular Commission Meeting to set the maximum millage rate and maximum special assessments (solid waste, stormwater, street lighting, Lake McGrady) for the TRIM notice.
    • August 25, 2025: Second budget workshop to incorporate final state revenue estimates and further refine the budget.
    • September 3, 2025: First public hearing on the tentative budget and millage.
    • September 15, 2025: Second public hearing to adopt the final budget and millage.
  • Staff will provide additional details on vehicle replacement costs, vacancy reports, team Volusia expense reallocation, code compliance budget impacts, allocated support services costs, and street lighting feasibility and options.
  • Commissioners were encouraged to meet individually with the Finance Director to discuss specific assessments prior to the July 21 meeting.

Meeting Transcript

All right, we're gonna go ahead and get started with this city commission workshop from Monday, July 14, 2025. And if I can please have the city clerk call the rule. Commissioner Bilobasquez. Commissioner Callwell. Here. Commissioner Howington? Commissioner Lelly? Present. Commissioner Santiago? Here. Vice Mayor Harriet. Present. Mayor Bella. Here. All right, if we can please stand for the pledge and I'll have Commissioner Cole do the pledge of allegiance. The flag of the United States of America. Under God for all. All right. Just before we get started, uh we are gonna be having more use of our mics, and they just wanted me to let you know that uh the request to speak will now be on here. So if you if anybody wants to click on the speak button to test it out, for example, like Commissioner Howington's come out, it should be blue, and then I click on them and then the mic will turn on, and that's how we're gonna do it with a new system. So all right. Uh we're going straight to Mr. McKinney, so we can start with the budget discussions. Uh Mayor, thank you. Uh we talked uh a little bit about the budget timeline back in uh February and May. We're doing CIP and June, uh, some other timelines and discussions. So tonight, uh John for our finance director here, John McKinney is going to give an overview uh a little bit. Of course, uh being a workshop tonight, no final decisions are made for for anything tonight. This is just to uh to get us started here, and I think John will give a little prequel. Thank you, John. Uh Mayor and Commission. Uh, tonight we are here to discuss the fiscal year 2025-2026 budget. We will provide summary information on operation operational budgets to include revenue estimates, special assessments, and recap of our CIP and capital outlay. As the budget is a fluid process, there will be changes communicated to you up until the final public hearing on September 15th. I want to thank all of the department directors and their staff for meeting the zero-based budget target. I want to thank finance specifically, Keong and Tori, and Audrey for all that they have done these past two weeks to assist me with getting the executive budget summary and presentation completed for tonight. All this within two weeks since we wrapped up our annual audit and submitted to all required parties the ACFER. My staff and I go from audit to budget and vice versa. I just scheduled interim audit for the beginning of September. Next year I foresee a big change in timing when we are fully staffed. This is caused by finance struggling to fill the multiple vacancies. Like everyone, this causes finance to prioritize based on due dates. So I really appreciate finance staff stepping up to meet all our deadlines. So I

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