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Deltona Joint Comprehensive Plan Workshop 8 – October 19, 2026

City Commission & Boards — Monday, October 19, 2026
BodyDeltona, Florida
SessionCity Commission & Boards
DateMonday, October 19, 2026
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Speaker 1

1:41

All right.

Unassigned speaker

2:07

All

Speaker 2

2:07

right, so nice we have reading questions and items workshop for the commissioner planning for the process where we have mobile.

2:18

We're gonna go ahead and do a couple of slides together, but it's all just requirements that we can

Unassigned speaker

2:30

start.

Speaker 3

3:05

Um regarding um

Speaker 1

3:50

Good evening, everyone.

3:52

Um we are excited to be back.

3:58

Um since our last meeting at September, we have been very good after you think comments and uh questions about what is the first thing.

4:26

And we also went towards a number of communities

Unassigned speaker

4:31

in

Speaker 1

4:32

area in the Orlando area because one of them could be places that if somebody

Unassigned speaker

4:38

wanted to go

Speaker 1

4:38

for themselves, they

Unassigned speaker

4:40

can go to what uh because this is just a sample of the placement that we visited.

Unassigned speaker

4:45

We also visited um

Speaker 1

4:48

Lakeland

Unassigned speaker

4:49

and some of the community

Speaker 1

4:51

area down to the tower.

4:54

Um some days.

Speaker 4

7:29

Really clear to us was when you put landscaping, when you put buildings of different height around those buildings, when you don't make a monolith, I think Matthew Matthew, we also went to Altamont Springs uh to see the building that you call, I think the ISOR on I four.

7:46

Um that that is, you know, that building, while as tall as some of the other buildings that we saw, um, it does it stands out because there's nothing around it.

7:57

There's no context to help um make that height s um fit in with the greater community.

8:05

There's no landscaping around it.

8:06

There's no s scale that helps bring down that.

8:10

Um in the Deland, the the building in Deland, I when I was just a half a block away, you could barely tall see it because of the landscaping, because of the other buildings around it.

8:22

The scale of it really became quite diminished.

8:24

Uh, same thing with the Sanford building.

8:27

I could have shown you a picture of Samford with the clock tower that's a half a block away from the building, and you can't even see it anymore.

8:34

Um, because of the way the scale works.

8:36

And that's what makes that's that's what makes mixed use work.

8:40

Mixed use works when scale, when height, um, when streetscape, when landscaping all come together in one uniform structure.

8:52

And so this really is a question of design.

8:55

Um, because you don't want buildings that stand alone as a monolith.

8:59

That's not what we're talking about.

9:00

We're talking about buildings that are truly a mixed-use community.

9:04

With the other thing that really makes these work, um, and again, in a future one, we could do a lot more pictures about design and how this works, but at the first floor level, if you're your base floor of if you have an awning structure that is similar in height, you don't feel what's above you.

9:22

It could be a one-story building uh or of about thirty-five feet.

9:26

You could have a a seven-story building of seventy-five feet.

9:30

It really wouldn't matter because it's that first floor awning, um, the active windows, um, active landscaping, all of that at that first floor really helps create create that sense of context.

9:44

I'm I'm watching you, Jessica nod your head because we did a walking tour.

9:47

Do you want to elaborate on any of my comments?

9:50

Or you know, my husband, my husband.

Unassigned speaker

9:56

I I need to quote you, have you quoted for my husband later when he disagrees that I'm not right.

Speaker 4

10:01

Um all right, so now we want to show what that means for you.

10:05

And on this one, I'm gonna turn the microphone over to Ed Ning, who worked um with our team on creating a series of maps that show what this means in terms of context for Deltona.

Speaker 5

10:19

Alrighty.

10:20

Thank you for having me there this evening.

10:23

On the map, all the little parts that you see are either commercial, industrial mixed use or so forth.

10:31

Uh something that really gets people like really wound up with live local and ideal across the state, is that they can apply to everywhere.

10:38

No, it only applied to very specific parts that you don't a certain way.

10:43

So as opposed to showing a map of all the parts of laid out in Daltona, before we even get through that circular area, those are the parts that currently qualify for live local.

10:56

Uh um those um now the extent of what we have here um with that uh circle is if you recall from live local density is citywide, it's what the high from city wide, a separate clause in the live local is your height and the height only one mile from what is permitted.

11:19

So we had our GIS uh planner uh uh uh um just draw a one-mile buffer around the uh uptown mixed use district there, and that because it's proposed at 75 feet would be what uh uh uh uh um there right now.

11:38

And this is not working everywhere in the city right now with the existing can be up to 45 feet.

11:48

Um you see that you know, because you have to and only allow for 45 feet anyway.

11:54

Uh uh um when you draw circles around all those districts to see what the expand of what you currently allow, you see what that covered that most of the city except that little circle in the middle, that little black area is actually water.

12:09

So it does when we looked at it, you know,

Speaker 1

12:11

you're

Speaker 5

12:12

not gonna build on top of water.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
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Transportation Safety██████████████████████████26%
Active Transportation███████████11%
Public Safety████4%
Technology and Innovation████4%
Engineering And Infrastructure████4%
Community Engagement███3%
Disaster Preparedness███3%
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Summary of Proceedings

Deltona City Commission and P&Z Joint Comprehensive Plan Workshop – October 19, 2026

The City of Deltona City Commission held a joint workshop with the Planning & Zoning Board on Monday, October 19, 2026, beginning at 5:30 p.m. in the Deltona Commission Chambers. Workshop 8 continued the review of the Comprehensive Plan Update, focusing on the proposed Goals, Objectives, and Policies for the Future Land Use, Transportation, Housing, and Property Rights Elements. Although the agenda scheduled the joint meeting until 8:30 p.m., the meeting adjourned at 7:26 p.m. No formal action was taken.

Discussion Items

  • Workshop recap and design context: The consultants summarized feedback since Workshop 7 and described visits to mixed-use areas in Orlando, Lakeland, Altamonte Springs, DeLand, and Sanford. They emphasized that mixed-use development works when building height, scale, streetscape, landscaping, and active first-floor uses are designed together, and warned against monolithic buildings without context.
  • Live Local Act height analysis: Maps showed properties that could qualify under the Live Local Act, using one-mile buffers around mixed-use districts. Only specific properties within those buffers are affected, not the entire buffer. The proposed uptown district near Exit 114 would allow 75 feet plus a 50-foot bonus, or a potential maximum of 125 feet. One commissioner expressed concern that this effectively permits up to 12 stories and that residents did not ask for tall buildings. Another commissioner supported the 75-plus-50 approach, noting the area near the existing seven-story hospital could attract a hotel or children's hospital. Consultants said they could reduce the height proposal if directed.
  • Feet versus stories: Commissioners discussed whether height limits should be expressed in feet or stories. Several speakers favored sticking to feet and using the Land Development Code (LDC) to set design, setback, and minimum first-floor height standards that support quality development and future resiliency. It was noted that bonus height would require meeting specific standards and would not be guaranteed.
  • Mixed-use categories: The Future Land Use Element proposes seven mixed-use categories. The consultants explained differences between centers and corridors, including design and relationship to surrounding neighborhoods. Height ranges were described generally: community mixed-use up to six stories, neighborhood/main street up to four stories with a bonus, and the uptown district as the only area allowing the maximum height.
  • Future Land Use Element: Discussion covered Objectives FLU 2-1, 2-2, 2-3, FLU 4-1, and FLU 5-1. A new residential estate category of one unit per two acres was noted. Regarding the Osteen Local Plan, a commissioner pointed out language that appeared crossed out or moved, despite assurances that the plan would not change. Consultants agreed to review the document and ensure no substantive changes were made. Another commissioner said language about “appropriate levels of service for government services” in development agreements was too vague and needed to be more definitive.
  • Transportation and Mobility Element: The element was reorganized around a complete street network, including roadways, bicycles, pedestrians, transit, greenways, Blueways, emergency evacuation, and freight. Discussion included e-bike regulation, countywide trail connectivity, the future of SunRail, walkability gaps such as Saxon Boulevard near Walmart, city-owned versus centralized parking, golf carts as micro-mobility, and the need to plan for future technology and energy grid capacity. A commissioner asked for a section on commercial drone facilities; consultants recommended treating all aerial mobility together, while the city attorney noted state and federal preemption limits local control over drones.
  • Level of service and roadway standards: The proposed table would allow Level of Service E on arterials and collectors, which some commissioners considered failing. One commissioner suggested raising standards to C on arterials and D on collectors and locals. Consultants and the city attorney warned that higher LOS standards could be expensive, could bind future commissions to tax increases, and may face state review under Senate Bill 180. A commissioner requested an impact analysis, including budget and SB 180 implications, before making a decision. Another commissioner opposed raising standards because of the cost to residents and noted that county roads also operate at LOS E. The commission agreed to gather more information and obtain a current report on how major arterial roads are operating.
  • Housing Element: The element is largely unchanged, with three goals and nine objectives covering housing variety, affordability, accessibility, missing middle housing, ADUs, student and congregate housing, and substandard housing reduction. A new disaster resiliency policy addresses post-disaster housing assistance, post-storm permitting, and temporary housing. Commissioners asked about benchmarks and timelines for temporary housing; consultants said specifics would be in the LDC or disaster management plans. One commissioner cautioned against cutting off federal disaster housing assistance prematurely.
  • Property Rights Element: The element is intentionally minimal, designed to comply with state law and consistent with model language used by most Florida jurisdictions.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Courtney Crossburrows spoke in favor of building vertically rather than outward to preserve green space. She described positive experiences living above shops in New York and New Jersey and supported using bonus incentives to encourage quality mixed-use development and community benefits.
  • Norman Jean Gita called attention to missing sidewalks in Deltona, saying children on bikes are competing with cars. She asked the commission to revise sidewalk infrastructure priority language to emphasize network connectivity and safety.

Key Outcomes

  • No formal motions, votes, or approvals were made; the meeting was a discussion and direction-setting workshop.
  • Consultants were directed to include street labels on future maps, including key roads such as SR 415, Doyle Road, and other prominent corridors.
  • Staff and consultants will review Osteen Local Plan language to ensure no unintended changes were introduced.
  • The commission discussed making future code amendments adaptable, including retitling the city-owned parking policy to “centralized parking” and including golf carts within the definition of micro-mobility.
  • Staff will prepare additional information on potential roadway level-of-service changes, including budget impacts and Senate Bill 180 considerations, along with a report on current arterial road operating conditions.
  • Staff will coordinate on e-bike safety, pedestrian protection, and alternatives to Votran service, including local circulator options.
  • The next Comprehensive Plan workshop is scheduled for Monday, November 16, 2026.

Meeting Transcript

All right. All right, so nice we have reading questions and items workshop for the commissioner planning for the process where we have mobile. We're gonna go ahead and do a couple of slides together, but it's all just requirements that we can start. Um regarding um Good evening, everyone. Um we are excited to be back. Um since our last meeting at September, we have been very good after you think comments and uh questions about what is the first thing. And we also went towards a number of communities in area in the Orlando area because one of them could be places that if somebody wanted to go for themselves, they can go to what uh because this is just a sample of the placement that we visited. We also visited um Lakeland and some of the community area down to the tower. Um some days. Really clear to us was when you put landscaping, when you put buildings of different height around those buildings, when you don't make a monolith, I think Matthew Matthew, we also went to Altamont Springs uh to see the building that you call, I think the ISOR on I four. Um that that is, you know, that building, while as tall as some of the other buildings that we saw, um, it does it stands out because there's nothing around it. There's no context to help um make that height s um fit in with the greater community. There's no landscaping around it. There's no s scale that helps bring down that. Um in the Deland, the the building in Deland, I when I was just a half a block away, you could barely tall see it because of the landscaping, because of the other buildings around it. The scale of it really became quite diminished. Uh, same thing with the Sanford building. I could have shown you a picture of Samford with the clock tower that's a half a block away from the building, and you can't even see it anymore. Um, because of the way the scale works. And that's what makes that's that's what makes mixed use work. Mixed use works when scale, when height, um, when streetscape, when landscaping all come together in one uniform structure. And so this really is a question of design. Um, because you don't want buildings that stand alone as a monolith. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about buildings that are truly a mixed-use community. With the other thing that really makes these work, um, and again, in a future one, we could do a lot more pictures about design and how this works, but at the first floor level, if you're your base floor of if you have an awning structure that is similar in height, you don't feel what's above you. It could be a one-story building uh or of about thirty-five feet. You could have a a seven-story building of seventy-five feet. It really wouldn't matter because it's that first floor awning, um, the active windows, um, active landscaping, all of that at that first floor really helps create create that sense of context. I'm I'm watching you, Jessica nod your head because we did a walking tour. Do you want to elaborate on any of my comments? Or you know, my husband, my husband. I I need to quote you, have you quoted for my husband later when he disagrees that I'm not right. Um all right, so now we want to show what that means for you. And on this one, I'm gonna turn the microphone over to Ed Ning, who worked um with our team on creating a series of maps that show what this means in terms of context for Deltona. Alrighty. Thank you for having me there this evening. On the map, all the little parts that you see are either commercial, industrial mixed use or so forth. Uh something that really gets people like really wound up with live local and ideal across the state, is that they can apply to everywhere.

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