0:00Introductions of Council members, and I will start to my left.
0:04Man is sound of Northwest Denver District One.
0:07Flora Alvidres, Lucky District 7.
0:09Jamie Torres, West Denver District 3.
0:13And do we have any council members online?
0:17Go ahead and introduce yourselves.
0:30We will have Councilmember Lewis.
0:35Glad you're here with us today.
0:37Well, we have a briefing from CPD to talk about the annual work plan.
0:43So I'd like to invite you up.
1:07So if you could just introduce yourselves and then whenever you're ready to get started.
1:11Good afternoon, uh Council members.
1:13My name is Brad Buchanan.
1:14I'm the executive director with uh community planning and development.
1:18Hi everyone, I'm Sarah Schulwalter, uh one of the deputy executive directors for CPD.
1:27I'm also one of the deputy executive directors at CPD.
1:31Just to be clear, that's all the deputy executive.
1:36Don't let anybody think we have like six.
1:43Great, are we ready to jump in?
1:44Uh yes, I could just like to offer.
1:50Thank you for joining us.
1:54Um, so we'll just start out uh just really quickly on the high altitude overview.
1:59CPD is responsible for visionary city planning, historic preservation, development review, and ensuring safe and sustainable buildings.
2:08And we do that in a lot of different ways, and we're going to talk about that today.
2:12Um we're going to dive into these sort of four buckets of our agency goals.
2:19Um, continue the fundamental shift in permitting led by the Denver Permitting Office and improving customer service.
2:27Implement regulatory reform to improve the development process and development outcomes, advance neighborhood planning and catalytic developments across Denver, and promote a climate-resilient Denver.
2:39And we have a number of strategies and outcomes for 2026 in our work plan.
2:57So our major projects for 2026.
3:01First of all, uh two plans in the neighborhood planning initiative near Northeast and Far Northwest, the Burnham Yard uh small area plan and associated entitlements, the people's budget, the cycle three of the people's budget, uh Denver Resilient Landscapes project we're working on, unlocking housing choices, regulatory reform, an update to the Denver Energy Code, and a number of uh permitting improvements, all geared towards launching Prop 123 affordable housing fast track permitting processes.
3:39The near Northeast neighborhood plans, the first one we're gonna focus on.
3:43This is in council districts eight and nine.
3:47And uh with a public launch uh this spring.
3:50In fact, the kickoff meeting is on May 21st.
3:54Anticipated council consideration and hopeful adoption in 2027.
4:04The second neighborhood plan uh starting in 2026 is in council district one, the far northwest neighborhood plan, public launch this summer and anticipated council consideration adoption in 2027.
4:23A lot of work being done, obviously as well in the around Burnham Yard.
4:28Step one is the small area plan.
4:32This will guide the redevelopment, the eventual rezoning, the infrastructure master plan and other land use associated processes around all of Vernon Yard, but first is considering the bigger picture and the influences acting on and within uh Burnham Yard.
4:50The current phase we're in right now is a community engagement and a visioning process and uh anticipating city council adoption in late 2026 with additional follow-up land use uh processes in early 2027.
5:11Cycle three of the people's budget, it is fully funded.
5:14We are pleased to say this is our community-driven driven budgeting for capital projects.
5:21Cycle three includes a million dollars for citywide projects and a million dollars for near Southeast NPI planning area projects.
5:29This summer project delegates will lead the process, put together ideas for the community to vote on, and is it is anticipated to be completed by end of this calendar year 2026.
5:44We're also working on a project called Denver Resilient Landscapes, which really is about consolidating all the different places in our city where landscape regulations exist.
5:55This will be across multiple departments.
5:58This Saturday, April 25th at CSU Spur on the National Western Center campus.
6:03There's a community symposium that starts at 10 a.m.
6:06for any listeners who are interested in joining that.
6:09We we anticipate city counts council adoption in late uh summer.
6:14August is our target date.
6:18Lots of conversation going on around uh middle income housing and unlocking housing choices.
6:26Um so community engagement is on is happening right now, March and April.
6:33Uh we'll step into the phase one process right after that, which uh we are hoping for council adoption in uh by the end of this year.
6:48We are also going through a substantial effort that's been going on for over a year now.
6:53The uh started in 2025, a regulatory diagnostic of our zoning code.
6:59This is looking at streamlining, are we getting the outcomes we want?
7:03Are we telling our customers and users in rational and logical ways the outcomes that we want and giving them a path to succeed?
7:12Um it's divide divided into a couple of phases.
7:15Phase one is is currently scoped.
7:17We met this morning about it, and uh we'll be advanced uh throughout this year.
7:22Hopefully uh phase one adopted by council in early 2027.
7:30We're also just commencing an update to the Denver Energy Code.
7:34Um this uh submittals are will be collected this spring for for ideas.
7:41There's a broad stakeholder group that will be considering those uh proposals brought to the committee for a vote uh in the fall.
7:52Uh committees will decide which amendments to bring forward.
7:57We will draft this winter and hope to adopt in early 2027.
8:07ERCO rolls right off the tongue, universal recycling and composting ordinance.
8:12Um I was glad that they changed their name from Waste No More.
8:15There's a phenomenal organization in Denver called Waste No More that does incredible, incredible work for uh communities around food and and baby supplies and all kinds of things.
8:26So rules and uh I'll start on the second one first actually.
8:30This this will affect most projects.
8:32So this is residential and commercial projects, all demolition uh permits, rules and regulations have been drafted, uh working with some subject matter experts, and um we'll be posting those for public comment the first week in May.
8:51And um we'll be uh using a web-based tool to uh take in customer input and to more easily show their compliance and to automate their approvals through these processes because there'll be a lot of them, obviously.
9:05Every project will have a piece of this.
9:07Significant effort by technology services to integrate um all these accounting elements into uh our processes and make it easy for our customers to understand.
9:21So it was about a year ago that we launched the Denver permitting office, and with its 180-day goal, Prop 123 cuts that in half.
9:33And um we're working hard on how to integrate uh a fast track pro an even faster track process for affordable housing projects that have uh Prop 123 funding.
9:46Um we'll be launching that this spring.
9:49Uh the good news is we are our permitting processes.
9:53I think we just had our 17th week in a row where we were over 90% on time, running 93% on time year to date this year.
10:02We've that's uh a result of a lot of folks figuring out smarter mouse traps, but also uh to we've we've enjoyed also, and all this isn't great for our city, is great for our reviewers.
10:14Uh we've seen about a four percent reduction uh last year over the year before in the numbers of permits, so the volume is down slightly.
10:23Um and then you you might have read uh recently some press we got we and and you approved, thank you very much the the contract for the CivCheck uh AI tool that we'll be used for using for intake, uh which we see hundreds and hundreds of things come in every single day.
10:41And then lastly, uh just for you and and your aids and for the viewers at home, these three links, which which have a ton of information for if folks want to know what's going on in their neighborhood in their community on their main street.
10:56Uh they can see details around major development projects on our site development plans uh link, uh our e-permits website.
11:03Can you can search up permits by address, and uh we have information also on uh property inspectors um uh zoning and more.
11:12So we have uh great user links here.
11:15I'll also give a shout out.
11:16Uh there was some information that went out last week.
11:18Denver permitting office went live with a number of uh web pages uh around uh the great work that that group is doing as well.
11:30Okay, that is the end.
11:34That is a brief list of a lot of things.
11:37Thank you very much, and thank you for all those resources and putting links to it.
11:41That's really great.
11:42Um we have a few people in the queue, and we'll go ahead and get started with Council Member Torres.
11:48Um thank you all, appreciate it.
11:50Um, I just want to thank you, Brad, and um uh coming over to CPD has made a noticeable improvement and difference.
12:01Um, not just I think in uh what I'm seeing and experiencing in my interaction with CPD, but I feel like of the morale of the department as well.
12:10So I really want to thank you uh for taking on that hard work and and doing it with uh with gusto.
12:19Um one question I have, I think in it inclusive of the two uh MPIs that are coming through this year.
12:29Are there eight more that need to be completed after that?
12:33That's a great question.
12:34I actually don't know the exact number.
12:37Try to do a quick count on our map.
12:41Or roughly what do you think?
12:43I think it actually might be more just a handful we're down to.
12:46Okay, it's less than eight.
12:48Um it's like at least one, two, two, yeah, I think more around um five or six.
12:55So I will just give you a heads up.
12:58One of the policies that I recommended for council to submit to the mayor's team is to finish those um in uh the next couple years.
13:05Um and what is it, what it takes for us to get to that uh potential goal because I feel like we ran up against um who doesn't have plan guidance and this and that on uh just constant basis.
13:19So um we'd love to see that monkey get off the city's back a little bit.
13:24And I don't know what it would cost or what it would take.
13:27So just a heads up for you all I I've asked that question.
13:32Um the other obviously we're doing the Burnham small area plan, which um I've often joked with folks who are following the small area plan and the large development review process.
13:45Bless you, that the small area plan is larger than the large development review, it's in smaller geography.
13:51Um but uh how many others of those do you anticipate we have to do because it feels duplicative, like we're gonna have to come back to Lomalincol Park and look at the whole neighborhood, Baker, like all of the neighborhoods that are currently contributing to small area plan.
14:07Just the process feels like we're gonna have to gear up for this again in a couple years.
14:11I know if the Broncos do move, we have the current stadium site, but are there other small area plans that are needed elsewhere in the city?
14:20That's a great question because um and it's funny, I haven't even really thought about that.
14:25Like we use large development review because it's a comparison to other types of development review and a small area plan in comparison to a neighborhood plan.
14:33But you're right, it's much bigger.
14:35And the whole point of those small area plans is to be a little more nimble.
14:39Um sometimes we've done them even in situations where as recently as a year or two beforehand, we had no idea we'd be doing one, right?
14:48So I think um like River Mile's a great example where as soon as there became um change in ownership and a huge development proposal, it kind of triggered like, oh wow.
15:00Difficult to talk about what should happen there.
15:02Same thing for Loreto Heights is another great example, right?
15:04Without having a more in-depth and nuanced plan in place.
15:10So right now we do not have plans for anything beyond Burnham.
15:15And you're right, we we will still need to come back to do the bigger South Central MPI area and make um kind of the comprehensive neighborhood plan for that whole area.
15:24Um but yeah, as of now, we do not have an immediate plan.
15:28But I that said, like there are still other places left in Denver where you can except for the one that you already said, which is kind of obvious, which is the old mile high site.
15:37Like we will want to do um make sure we have a good community plan in place for that.
15:42But then there are still places left in Denver that are um large areas under large um or could in the future anyway be under one ownership or a huge master plan idea could come up, and at that time we'd have to kind of um tackle based on existing resources and everything, you know.
16:01Um that definitely like something to know.
16:04Um obviously Burnham was left out of the Lincoln Llama Lincoln Park neighborhood plan when that was done, and so it was like an empty space, right?
16:14Um Mile High Stadium area was left out of West when we did the West Neighborhood Planning Initiative, so another empty space, so it might be helpful now because it just it is such a suck on resources and and and timing for everything else.
16:29So just something I was thinking about a little bit more.
16:33Um for unlocking housing choices.
16:36I'm I'm I'm serving on that committee with Councilman Flynn.
16:39Um I think your team is doing a really good job, especially in having to pivot to adjust for um uh layoffs and loss of of staff um associated with that.
16:51Um I'm very interested in kind of what comes of the three proposals that are before the community right now, but also I I don't think we're putting any emphasis right now on anti-displacement policies, and I've um we we I've had a group discussing those things with councilwoman Lewis and Parody for a while.
17:11Um, but we're definitely trying to put our brains together on anti-displacement policies.
17:16One of those is likely to be can we have pre-approved plans in place for certain things.
17:23So I just want to understand like where you guys might be coming from on whether that's a possibility or not.
17:29We're really supportive of that concept.
17:32Um, and we certainly have a lot of pure cities we've talked to that already have programs in place.
17:37I think the biggest like barriers to entry is just getting the somebody uh putting the resources in to actually get them drawn up and then submit it to us for approval because the city staff themselves can't actually create the templates.
17:55So, but we're we're very supportive of the concept for sure.
18:00We've seen pretty mixed results too uh around use of those in your cities.
18:06Some some more, some not very much at all.
18:09We didn't figure out what was the secret sauce and the ones that worked really well, so we avoid the pitfalls of the others.
18:17Okay, and my last question on that would it be possible to start with ADUs?
18:22Like West Denver Renaissance has like their go-to models for studio, one bedroom, two bedroom, three-bedroom ADUs.
18:32Um, like is it possible to start looking at those at whether or not that could be like a starting point?
18:37We've had multiple meetings with Martinez Stone.
18:41Okay, all right, hopeful on that.
18:44Thanks, Venom Fried.
18:46Um, Councilmember Albitris.
18:50Um of my colleague, I think we all have similar questions.
18:54I'm curious, um, it doesn't necessarily say when the South Central Plan will start on your website, it still says 2026-2027.
19:05So where is that on the work plan?
19:09And you'll have to direct me to where it says on the website because we should update it.
19:14And then I'll send it up.
19:15So the South Central Plan is not kicking off the next year or two.
19:20Um, it's the plans we just talked about.
19:23Um, so the uh near Northeast plan is about to publicly launch, like we said in May, and then far northwest.
19:31So South Central be in the next round, and uh we anticipate that starting in 2028.
19:38Okay, and that's due to staffing.
19:41Largely, yes, because as you might remember, we went through reductions.
19:45Um of the outcomes was reducing the number of the big neighborhood plans we're doing at one time from three to two.
19:54Um that's good to know.
20:00And then you share about the community feedback and how that's been going for unlocking housing choices.
20:06So we had many thanks to some of you.
20:09Your offices really helped us promote, and in some cases, you even attended the recent round of community meetings that we did.
20:17We had four, I mean, kind of in each quadrant of the city, and then a virtual option as well that just happened last week.
20:24They were relatively well attended, some more than others.
20:28And the feedback's been really mixed.
20:31I think overall the sentiment was positive in just the sense that people are showing up and they seem to understand the goals and the reasons behind this project.
20:40But then we we really heard a range of opinions from people who are incredibly supportive and even sometimes asking, like, can we even go a step further?
20:50Can we get even more density in some of these areas to people that have concerns and were pretty direct about saying, you know, like we think that well we should still allow the market to build really large single unit homes.
21:03Um, because one of the one of the things on the table is not just about allowing more density in exchange for preservation of a unit or affordability, but to also uh amend some of the design basic design parameters for homes and cap the FAR so that when homes are getting built, we're one of our goals is to disincentivize a lot of what's happening right now in Denver where smaller homes are getting scraped for another single unit home that is much bigger.
21:32So we heard uh just a real mix, uh which makes sense on a topic like this, right?
21:37There's a big mix of opinions, but um it was actually pleasantly surprising, I think, in some of the neighborhoods, how many residents, even longtime residents that have been there for a long time, are supportive of this concept and appreciate the um focus in particular, I think, on looking for ways to try and encourage keeping the existing home on the site, you know, and or encouraging affordability.
22:02Okay, I appreciate that.
22:03Um my other question is um I'm curious more about the regulatory reform scope.
22:10You kind of just brushed right over that.
22:12What are the scopes that you're considering or looking at?
22:16So phase one, uh we were we just reviewed that this morning series of items that we think we can get through this year.
22:26Uh they have a lot to do with simplifying measurement rules.
22:29One of the big ones is that today we have uh a well-intentioned but I think hard to regulate and sometimes hard to understand for our customers' requirement around height using stories and what and defining it by stories, and uh we're going to move to feet, like number of feet, so that because we really don't we don't care as much about how many stories there are, we care about how how what the mass is.
22:59So it's it's things like that that wouldn't take map amendments.
23:05I mean, is that a fair statement to do?
23:09So they're more regulatory and some design guideline things that wouldn't take map amendments.
23:16With the design guideline things, and you're aware of the situation on South Broadway.
23:21I'm very concerned that we're losing historic signs that we've had that are all of a sudden not allowed via zoning, even though they've been in place for like 70 years in some cases.
23:32How does that fit into this?
23:34That's not in design guidelines, that's in the zoning code.
23:37I mean, the sign the sign code is part of the zoning code, which we created, I think in 1956.
23:45Um I mean, I'm super familiar with the with the South Broadway sign you're you're referring to, and we're working on a case-by-case basis with these customers.
23:59Um I I don't think I mean signs can remain when they are when they haven't been removed.
24:10Signs, some signs have been removed and replaced or redone with new content, and that changes changes things.
24:19So just changing like the business name from one to another is a reason to have them need to do an entire new sign.
24:28No, no, but uh in the case we're talking about the sign was removed and then put back up at one point.
24:37Um well, I would like to just know more about that because there's a lot of signs on Broadway that I'm sure that are not in compliance with zoning, and also add to the character and historic content that South Broadway has.
24:49So I look forward to continuing that conversation, and then the other issue that has come up a lot is around where uh not just taco trucks, but um uh food trucks are allowed.
25:02Um that has been a big issue, and so I'm curious what does that look like because these issues when we're getting in the news that we're not supporting our local restaurants, we're not supporting our local businesses, and yet they're getting cease and assist orders over signs and TOPCO trucks that have been there for a long time are no longer allowed.
25:22I would say is urgent, and so I am concerned that I don't see where that fits in this work plan.
25:32I mean, that we we haven't had issues except for in the case where you're the one that we had a really difficult time with just over the holidays last year, um, was a case where in the lot next to it, it would have been allowed.
25:46Literally 15 feet away it would have been allowed.
25:51One site was new code, one side was old chapter 59.
25:55We have remnants of old chapter 59 in a number of places that don't allow.
26:01I'm talking about table public house in my district that has had a food truck operating there for a long time that is a staple, and uh so we are going to include that in the legislative rezoning for the Southwest area plan, but I it doesn't make sense to the common person that a food truck would not be allowed here or there, but it is on that corner and not on this corner, and so I so there's a m multiple food trucks, it's not just one, and there's multiple signs, it's not just this one.
26:35I've had it all along Broadway.
26:37I can think of Meyer Skies has brought it up to me, Wash Perk Coffee Shop has brought it up to me.
26:42Um, that's just off the top of my head in the last year of signs that have caused financial harm to local small businesses.
26:49And so again, I'm just concerned that I don't see like food trucks and sign issues that are harming our local small businesses in the work plan.
26:59And so I'd love to see how that fits because I think it is an urgent issue.
27:03So I'll just continue to lift that up.
27:06I think it's a great point.
27:07I think food trucks kind of is on the work plan, although we didn't exactly call that out because it's not like it's but it falls into the bigger picture.
27:15Um all the efforts we're doing to get out of the old code because a lot of what you're bringing up and agree with you, it's very confusing.
27:22Is like why would it just because you're on this site that has different zoning than this site right here?
27:28It's not even a lot of cases just that it's different zoning, it's it's entirely different zoning code.
27:32Um, and you know, we are trying as much as we can, particularly through these legislative rezonings to get out of the old code.
27:39Um, but I hear you, and this the sign the challenges with the sign code are real, and the reason why that's not in phase one is like Brad said, we've tried to identify lower hanging fruit.
27:49We can get through quickly, but it is definitely on the list.
27:53We're we're trying to package out the regulatory reform into a couple of different phases, and the need to update the sign code is definitely on the list.
28:02And I think in the meantime, what we need to do is um spend some more time with your office on some of the specific signs you're hearing about and see what we can do.
28:11And I think low-hanging fruit is one thing, but urgent when we have declining sales tax revenue and funding, that needs to also be part of the contemplation.
28:21Thank you, committee chair.
28:22Um, Council President Sandoval.
28:25Um thank you all for all the work that you do and um the partnership.
28:31I couldn't have gotten a lot of the overlays done, um, the ADUs done, or any of the things that I've been able to get done as a land use commissioner without your partnership.
28:42So I always appreciate your partnership.
28:44To piggyback what Councilwoman Torres mentioned, um, our budget workshop is coming up May 14th.
28:52And I too have put that I would like to see um I didn't have as much specificity as councilwoman tourists, but I said I wanted to make sure that the legislative rezonings come in to plate because in Northwest Denver that has created an opportunity on 22nd in federal to have a um rezoning come.
29:16We didn't rezone it to eight stories, they're gonna I mean five stories, they're rezoning it, but I was able to implement the overlay, the active street use overlay, and it's being accompanied by a by development that's gonna use the height incentive and go up to seven stories and be able to have active street use right along Federal Boulevard with the BRT is coming through.
29:40So it's been really nice to have clear plan guidance for that plan of the five stories incentive, but at the same time that I was able to do that overlay, so a lot of people are worried about the active pale, and if I wouldn't have been able to partner with CPD and do the implementation of the near Northwest plan, it would look a little bit different.
30:04And one of the other things that we did for the implementation when we did the plan is we changed the blueprint context of Sunnyside, and now that we're working with Denver Housing Authority, hopefully that will come to fruition.
30:19And I was talking to Director Buchanan the other day that we need jobs in Denver, and a lot of things I remember when I was a council aid, and all of the warehouses were being bought up by the marijuana industry.
30:35Mexico and all the other states have have their own marijuana, and now we aren't the leader in the marijuana industry, and so these um warehouses are coming back online, and it's a opportunity to have people who live and work in their neighborhoods.
30:50I was at my cousin's house on Sunday for dinner, and we were talking how far everyone's commute is, and I was like, Oh, I can get from my house to the city and county building in 12 minutes on a good day and 20 minutes on a bad day.
31:04And then I can get to Platt Street in like 10 minutes on a good day and maybe 15 minutes on a bad day, and how lucky I was.
31:12I was probably one of out of 15 of us only able to actually work in my neighborhood.
31:18Um, and we were talking about how that a privilege that is, and so all of the work that you all do, and I've emphasized this to the mayor numerous times.
31:28We can't have you all without a partnership if we can't if we're gonna attack the affordable housing issue.
31:35If we're gonna be able to attack people living in Denver and being able to be generational Denverites.
31:42My husband is like a fourth generation Denverite, I'm a third, and we're raising the fifth generation Denverites in Denver, and my 24-year-old had to move out because she can't afford to live in Denver, and my 22-year-old still lives in my house if we have I'm slowly like um get out of here soon.
32:01But I don't want you to need you in my house at 22 years old.
32:06Um but those are the things that I think about when I think about your work plan, or how are you all fitting into the piece of the puzzle that we can work on?
32:16And I do know on the regulatory aspect.
32:19I think I was interviewed by the team that you are looking at, and I I mentioned to them, um, I gave them an example when I was interviewed that went before we did the update to the accessory dwelling units.
32:32Remember, it was two and a half stories, and it caused all of this mass chaos in the ADU form.
32:38Everyone was like, What do I do?
32:40and you couldn't get them, and they were having to be approved.
32:43And once we figured it out and we streamlined that process for the ADU, the bulk and how what it could build, now you saw them come online more, and that's what we ultimately want to do, right?
32:55Is we want to make sure that in that regulatory environment we're making it a little bit easier.
33:00In Northwest Denver, I have a fall like on 26th Avenue and 23rd Avenue, all the way down from the Platte River up to Federal, and figuring out where the um base plane starts and like where you build and like where it's established.
33:18Like I've actually gone into like and looked, you know me, I'm not telling you anything, you all don't know.
33:22I'm like, okay, show me where the base plane is.
33:25Um and everyone, all my developers are like, why do you want to see that on the blueprints, right?
33:30And on the schematics, and I'm like, well, because then I can explain to my community how tall the building's gonna be.
33:35And but when you have a fall from one street to another and it's 26 feet, it's really hard to figure that out.
33:43And what it does is create unpredictability in our communities, and I think that's what the the cool thing about zoning for me is it can create predictability.
33:53So I feel like your work plans along with DottieU's work plans are um hosts are all part of what we all need to do to get this done.
34:04And as you all know, you can't update the regulatory environment without us, can't update the building code without us.
34:12Other departments can because they have a lot of rules and regulations.
34:16I always say that CPD and us, we have a very weird unique relationship because you your codes have to come to us for adoption.
34:25Where if you think about it, a lot of other agencies don't.
34:28So we have we are we we're really intertwined.
34:31So just want to say thank you for all the work and thank you for the partnership and um being able to go into other jurisdictions and figure out what they're doing.
34:42I know I've talked to you, Director Buchanan, a lot about our affordable housing crisis.
34:47And I don't think I think we're all leading at the same time, and that's a really hard place to be because normally we always go out to other jurisdictions and say, What are you doing?
35:00Um I think that unlocking housing choices, it's gonna be a little bit explosive in Northwest Denver.
35:04There's a lot of people who are really supportive of it, and then there's a lot of people who have a lot of concern about it.
35:10And I think the more that we can get out and educate people about what it is, the better that we will be off.
35:16Because I don't wanna be when I first got elected, I I was um at the very tail end of group living, and that was like so crazy.
35:25So I'm hoping that it doesn't turn out to be that.
35:29Thank you, Madam Chair.
35:31Councilmember Sawyer.
35:33Thanks, Madam Chair.
35:35Really appreciate this.
35:36Um the conversation about the sign plan really, I think is an important one.
35:42I've been here seven years, and I will say um that when I got here seven years ago, people were talking about the fact that the sign plan needed to be updated um because for two reasons.
35:55Um number one, because that it was in it was put in the code in like the 1950s, and it still talks about lumens, which are not a thing so anymore.
36:06So like we it needs to be we need needs to be updated because it's not logical anymore.
36:12Um, but secondly, this is the space where I think um I see a number of my big developments in particular get held up in the timeline because they have to do comprehensive sign plans in order to go with their you know major developments that happen at Boulevard One, it happened at Ninth and Colorado.
36:30It's happening in Lowry right now, and like not only are they um required to do the sign plan, but then when they want to amend the sign plan to put like hang up a tiny sign outside of a small business.
36:45This is a true story, it's happening in Lowry right now.
36:47Like they they have to go through an entire sign plan amendment to get it done, right?
36:52And that is months of work.
36:54Um so I think uh I really appreciate um you guys' work and trying to speed and the permitting office and trying to speed up how we do these things.
37:05Um, but I am gonna push back a little bit on the idea that the sign plan is not a major piece of this because the sign plan is a major piece of this.
37:16It it adds significant time for very little benefit um if you look at it from an ROI perspective.
37:25So I will just say um that it is uh there was one time I had to go to planning board and get language put in to the Ninth and Colorado comprehensive sign plan amendment um because there was like no other way to get it done in a way that wouldn't hold up the sign plan.
37:46And when we're talking about in-filled development and we're talking about these big developments with these really bright signs in this particular case, it was the um AMC movie theater.
37:55We all want the AMC movie theater.
37:57We all are thrilled that it is there.
37:59It is also across the street from single family homes that have been there for a hundred years.
38:04So um finding the balance between making sure that sign can go there and making sure that it doesn't stay so bright so late at night that it shines in the windows of the residents who were there first.
38:16It like it's an easy balance, it's a thoughtful balance, and that's exactly what we should be doing, but it took months to get that done, right?
38:24So I think in terms of um this addressing the speed at which we're approving these kinds of things, the sign plan is a big hold up.
38:37And so I do think that it's a little bit more important than you guys are thinking it is.
38:41So that's all I got for you.
38:45Um I just had I'm just gonna look online.
38:49Um we had I have a question one in particular about the Denver Energy Code update.
38:56Is that a broader community process?
38:58Or can you talk to me or can you tell us a little bit more about that?
39:02I know that I hear about the energy code a lot in my district.
39:06Yeah, it's definitely a broader community um process.
39:09So we actually used this model before and it's worked really well because there's so many different kind of disciplines and areas.
39:16We'll have um stakeholder committees that are focused on the different topics.
39:20Um and so that's a great in addition to just kind of broader community outreach, is um we use these uh this committee model um to get a variety of stakeholders together and give input throughout the process and they inform um and even get to um vote on or like heavily influence the final recommendations that go into the package.
39:43I know we're in the process right now.
39:44Um, Chuck, do you know where we are on actually you want to introduce yourself and um probably come up to the mic?
39:53Good afternoon, my name's Chuck Martell with community planning development.
39:57I'm the commercial building plan review manager.
40:00This is a gonna be a very public process with the Denver Energy Code.
40:03The committee members who are gonna be voting, we've sent um acceptance emails to them, and we're waiting for to get the response to for all the committee members.
40:13There'll be a commercial committee and a residential committee.
40:16And then there throughout the summer, there'll be a group of subcommittees, which is a larger group of people that will be public as well.
40:23So you're be selected, and then we'll also have public welcome to join those committees to help develop those proposals at the final committees will hear.
40:32Um what would be the best way for me to see if like the folks that are giving me input to should I just have them connect directly with you?
40:41Um I don't know if they've been on if they're selected on the committee or if they are somehow engaged, but it seems more appropriate that they would be talking to you about some of those concerns.
40:53Yeah, they could reach out to to me there or the DenverGov.org backslash energy code is is the the website, and then any community member can sign up for um regular updates on the code process.
41:07But if there's anybody in particular, I'd be glad to help or feel that question.
41:12That would be great.
41:14Um and then uh about the landscapes, thank you.
41:19Um so I know Deborah Water has been doing a lot about resilient, you know, um and a resilient landscape and shifting from bluegrass.
41:30Um are you working in coordination?
41:33Are there things that our residents can do um to have more of resilient landscapes?
41:38I know we're doing it for our city buildings, but I'm also just wondering kind of like what is the city doing to help also help promote that.
41:46Yeah, that's a great question.
41:47So Denver Waters an important partner in this project, they've been very involved as we look at how to not just consolidate our landscape regulations but make them much more climate friendly and water wise.
41:59So as you note, they've already done a great job kind of developing different programs to encourage residents, and so that that's a huge thing we'll continue to do as partner on education outreach.
42:10So this symposium that Brad mentioned that's happening on Saturday is a great example, like a lot of what um residents can find there are uh resources on how to do more water wise um plantings, and we even have seed giveaways, for example, for plants and things that um can work well and use less water.
42:27But then the regulations themselves are going to change, so it won't be uh retroactive thing.
42:33So want to make that clear if you're um if you own an existing property that already has turf grass, for example, um there won't be a requirement that you have to to rip it out and replace it.
42:43That will continue to be an area that it's more incentives and education.
42:47But going forward, um, like if uh if you did brand new development or um really significant change to your property, um the what's in concept now anyway, you all will be you'll be those deciders on the final regulatory package, but um would significantly change our current regulations so that um on private property as well as the public property, like you already mentioned we made a lot of progress there.
43:12There will actually be rules in place to limit how much um uh non-usable grass you can have.
43:19So we say that meaning like if it is a property that is designed for recreation use with like a field or something, that's in a different category.
43:26But your typical um multifamily, single family, all those kinds of things will have um new rules in place to limit the amount of not just turf grass, but also try to have regulations in place that really encourage um water wise planting overall.
43:43I think there's just so much opportunity with all of the lawns um that are in Southeast Denver, there's a lot of bluegrass, and you know what we see right now is you know, people are like, okay, I'm gonna save the water, and then nobody waters anything, and somebody I have a neighbor who just like dumped a whole bunch of rock um in their land, and I'm thinking I don't know if we want that either, but you know, I think it's uh a give and take.
44:07So as much as we can do to be helpful and supportive and and also just cut down on our water use would be amazing.
44:14Um and then finally, uh just I think also to emphasize your point, Council uh member Torres, uh, the Northeast or not the Northeast, but the neighborhood plans that are in the queue.
44:25Um I know that Southeast Denver is one of those, you know, I think we're looking past 2030 for when that might be completed.
44:33And I think that what I'm seeing now is there's a lot of development.
44:38There is you know, people want to be able to um you know have good land use, and it's we still have places that are in chapter 59, so um, the sooner the better for for us for sure.
44:54We've talked about it.
44:56But um, anyway, are there any other questions?
45:02Have one more before I can Councilmember Alvidres.
45:05Let me get back to my notes.
45:08Another question that I had was that Councilman Flynn had mentioned he'd been working with you in my district about in a general grandfathering in.
45:17Is that fit into the work plan at all, or where would that be?
45:21And uh for for the folks watching, this has been an issue around say someone buys a home and and they do an addition on their home, inspector comes out, zoning inspector comes out to confirm the work and see something else that was not in compliance, typically built by a previous owner, maybe a long time ago, maybe 20 years ago, a long time ago.
45:46And so we've had that case come up here recently a few times.
45:49Very frustrating for our residents, very frustrating.
45:54Um, and so we're trying to uh figure out uh an approach uh with that.
45:59And I know Councilman Flynn and and and yourself, uh council member uh albudres, and so uh stay tuned, more to come on that.
46:09But we we agree that is an issue that we need to lean into and and sooner rather than rather than later.
46:17Um you had one more.
46:19Just one comment and uh for the group.
46:22You know, I I think this is I've been around Denver a long time, and it's an interesting moment to me right now.
46:30Um there, you know, we're seeing um market rate housing.
46:36Just let's just talk about the micro market of downtown where you know class A apartments are now renting it under a 100% area media median income.
46:47We we haven't seen that in in decades.
46:49Um we are seeing class B rental units and class C units, and when I say class C, these are not bad units, they're just older that are renting at the 60% AMI uh level.
47:01There are uh market rate class C units that are renting at or below what our restricted affordable housing units are renting at right now.
47:11This this, yes, we are in a bit of a slowdown in our marketplace right now, but this is such an opportunity to me.
47:18Uh this is this is an opportunity for us to continue to backfill our supply pipeline.
47:25The least expensive affordable housing unit is one that the private sector builds itself at no cost to the public sector.
47:33Um and so when I think about unlocking housing choices, that's it's such a great example of that.
47:39I mean, because when we make when we create housing choices, we need to make them at every project type, right?
47:45If some people want to live in a mid-rise or a high-rise, great.
47:48If some folks want to live in more of a single family context, but in a in a multifamily ADU kind of uh arrangement, uh I I think it's very exciting, and I think Denver is doing a lot of smart things right now around uh leaning into all of these opportunities.
48:08I really look forward to the unlocking housing choices conversation.
48:12It's uh there are there are strong feelings in both directions.
48:17Uh it's gonna be challenging, but I hope uh we'll keep our eyes on uh what the possibility is here to solve something that has historically been unsolvable for not just our city but but most major successful US cities that uh um uh have been uh you know wrestling with this affordability challenge.
48:39Thanks for letting me step out of order.
48:42Yeah, actually, Councilmember Torres first, and then you have to go.
48:47Thank you for raising that, and I appreciate your perspective on it and your leadership on it.
48:51Umticed is unlocking housing choices is oriented around uh uh a developer um example or sample of who's out there and what does it cost to build?
49:07And I still have residents who would like to understand what's my flexibility with my own property, and how do we how do we kind of carve out here's what unlocking housing choices might mean for the prospector, the developer who's looking for places to do their projects?
49:26But then how do we also carve out here's what it looks like for you as the resident, the owner of your property to build a cottage on the back, or a duplex on the back, or whatever kind of the example we come through, knowing you already own the property and the home, maybe you've even paid it off.
49:47Like, how do we actually make their experience doable uh where they don't have to get a b a billion consultants, right?
50:00Um, and we we've we've totally like carved out a space for capitalism in this conversation, but not a place for homeowners to really like use it to their best potential.
50:08And so I just want to raise that because I've got residents throughout my district who have no idea they could even split a really large parcel that they own and build an uh another duplex, you know.
50:19Just how do we put more of these economic tools and opportunities in our own residents' hands who own this property while we're also looking at like development opportunities.
50:30So could not agree more.
50:32And you know, you're talking about how we create aging in place opportunities, how we allow families to stay in neighborhoods together by create, you know, still affording their home and and and getting some additional income if it's a rental or or or or proceeds if it's a sale of some of these additional units.
50:53So uh 100% agree with you.
50:55I don't I don't think that uh anything in UHC right now would preclude that.
51:00It wouldn't, but uh what I'm seeing, especially in the last this week we had a meeting where we learned about like are certain things feasible for the development community.
51:09It's a totally different conversation to go.
51:11How is it feasible for the person who already owns their property and how do we get them pipelined through to understand what they what their opportunity is to do?
51:20So it it is I think two different veins.
51:23Um one that feels much easier and you know a huge way to support our existing property owners.
51:30The ADU prototypes we talked about earlier.
51:33So step towards that.
51:38Um, Councilmember Alvidaris.
51:40Yes, couldn't agree more.
51:41That's a those are great points.
51:42Um I really appreciate what you said there about the affordability and this moment and it could become very unaffordable very quickly, and that's I think what you're talking about with this particular moment in time.
51:55And I'm curious, all that data that you shared.
51:58I'm are is that being included and talked about as we make the housing needs assessment with host, because I want to make sure that that is connected.
52:09And then I also just want to say the market's never gonna build 30%, you know, AMI.
52:15And so continuing to make sure that we know that is something we need to create and figure out and support people with, um, and maybe it's less of the 60.
52:24And so I'm hoping that comes out in their needs assessment as well.
52:28So yeah, private sector's never going to build to your point 30%.
52:33But if our with our precious and scarce resources often uh this if the private sector is building more of the 80 and above, or maybe even 60 and above, it allows us to focus our resources on that which is most needed, and that the private sector isn't going to construct.
52:54Well, as you can tell, we could sit here and talk to you all the people later about this.
52:58It's been a great presentation, and thank you for all of the information.
53:03Um we have four items on consent, and with none of those being pulled off, we are adjourned.