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Detroit Public Health and Safety Committee Meeting – September 15, 2025

City CouncilMonday, September 15, 2025
BodyDetroit, Michigan
SessionCity Council
DateMonday, September 15, 2025
StatusFILED
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0:13

Madam Chair, you have a quorum present.

0:15

Thank you, Madam Clerk.

0:16

Given a quorum, we'll go right into the agenda for today.

0:19

We have received our minutes from our last session.

0:21

If there's a motion to approve.

0:23

Motion.

0:24

Thank you.

0:24

The minutes will be approved from our last session.

0:26

Just want to remind folks today that at 1 30 we do have our dangerous buildings hearings.

0:32

So if you're here in person or online and you have a hearing today, that will be at 1 30 this afternoon.

0:39

We can go right into public comment for today.

0:41

We can begin with the folks that we have here in person.

0:45

I have here Mr.

0:47

Cunningham and Tony Camillary.

0:49

I'll begin with Mr.

0:50

Cunningham first, followed by Tony.

0:52

And if you're online, please raise your hand now if you would like to make public comments.

0:56

I will be cutting off public comments at 10 05.

1:00

Public comment will be cut off in two minutes.

1:02

Everyone will have two minutes today for public comments.

1:06

We will put your time on the screen.

1:11

And then as soon as we have the screen set up for people to make their comments, we can get started.

1:18

I appreciate you taking all right.

1:22

Thank you, Ms.

1:23

Duncan.

1:23

Mr.

1:24

Cunningham, whenever you're ready.

1:25

All right, Director Brown, is the next matter in.

1:28

Good morning, everyone.

1:29

Under the sound of my voice.

1:40

That number was made so you can remember it.

1:42

And on Facebook, not enemy.

1:48

So I want to thank those that do reach out and give me positive words, ask for prayer, etc.

1:54

Um, even invite me to their church to talk about what I do in the community.

1:59

Um I try to touch lives.

2:02

Um a lot of folks are going through a lot, and that token of love, that bus ticket that uh the ice water or in the wintertime bus ticket hand warmers, and this council, everyone present has helped me.

2:19

Uh, and I I want to thank you for that.

2:22

I am getting a lot of complaints uh from routes that normally don't get complaints.

2:29

The Jefferson uh Woodward.

2:32

Uh and then I'm sitting there waiting sometimes just to see if there's customer coming.

2:36

I'm just watching and looking at people piling up at the woodwork stop and maybe a 30-minute wait or 40 minute wait.

2:44

I'm not sure what's going on, but uh there's there's some extra wait time going on.

2:50

Um we'll have our private meeting with the director.

2:54

I think tomorrow, and then there's an input meeting for those at home that have something extra to speak about.

3:02

There's a nightly city council meeting, and if you didn't know, you can contact LPD and uh let them know you want to get four minutes to speak.

3:12

Um that's at any nightly city council meeting.

3:15

Um I think there's a few spots left.

3:18

Um I keep the city in prayer.

3:21

You keep me in prayer no matter what faith you are.

3:24

Um, but D DOT has to get better.

3:26

Our transportation needs to get better.

3:28

Uh and thank you so much.

3:30

Thank you, Councilwoman.

3:31

Thank you, Councilman.

3:33

Thank you, Brother Cunningham, for coming down.

3:35

Just so you know, we will have a D D DOC quarter three and quarter three uh two and three policy conversation here in committee on Monday, October 27th.

3:46

So if you want to bring more folks, uh tell them that we're gonna be here for our quarterly updates on Monday, October 27th.

3:52

Thank you, Honorable Council.

3:54

Of course, thank you.

3:55

Thank you, Ms.

3:55

Duncan.

3:56

We will now hear from Tony Camillary.

4:00

Public comments is now cut off.

4:03

Public comment is caught off.

4:04

After we hear from Mr.

4:05

Camillary, we'll turn it over to the folks that we have online.

4:09

Sir, whenever you're ready, make sure your microphone is on.

4:15

All right, you can get started whenever you're ready.

4:18

Good morning.

4:19

My name is Tony Camillary, and uh I'm here.

4:24

Wanted to make some comments about the Marine Corps Reserve Center, the Broadhead Armory.

4:29

Uh I don't know where things stand with that and the parade company.

4:34

Uh I wanted to pretty much let everybody know and put in my opinion on it that that is one of the gems of the city of Detroit and would be a huge asset for the city if the parade company was able to follow through with their dreams and uh goals.

5:00

I took care of the Marine Corps Reserve Center for the year back in 2005.

5:03

I was issued a government contract to take care of that facility inside and outside.

5:09

And I actually have a couple photos of the last photo uh that was taken, which I took on September 29th, 2005.

5:18

And uh before the mil the Marines turned it back over to the city of Detroit, and they moved over to Selfridge.

5:27

And right after that took place, that building was literally destroyed.

5:33

Uh ransacked, the copper was taken out of it.

5:36

And it's very unfortunate.

5:38

There is so much history in that building, you don't need me to tell you this.

5:42

But what it could do for the city with the parade company with the events, different functions there on the river.

5:50

Uh with the Fourth of July fireworks with the riverfront walkway, the auto show, would be really uh something that I don't think any of us really could even imagine right now, the way the building is seen.

6:10

Okay.

6:11

I took care of that building myself and brought that building back from really a dilapidated run-down abandoned facility just by driving by one day.

6:22

I got caught at the light on Jefferson, and back then the uh a war had just started.

6:30

And I looked over and seen the way the building was, and I went back and I was there the whole summer cutting the grass, taking out the dead shrubs, doing everything, painting the curbs for my way of saying thank you to the Marines, which eventually led to that contract.

6:48

Thank you, sir.

6:49

But I hope the parade company can get the extension or is able to purchase that facility.

6:54

Okay, sir.

6:54

I have to cut you off.

6:55

I'm saying I'm sorry.

6:56

No, it's okay, thank you.

6:57

I'm I'm getting the I need to be fair to everyone.

7:00

I understand.

7:00

Um, I appreciate you coming down though.

7:02

Um, this is helpful to have some insights to the property.

7:06

And I would like to get you this photo.

7:08

If you would like to which is very rare, I'm telling you right now.

7:11

If you wouldn't mind, um I think someone's listening in from my office, so um somebody uh will come down from my office to take the picture or to get it from you, okay?

7:19

Okay, is there a way I could just get some info on where it stands?

7:23

I um so we're that's a good question.

7:26

I will answer the question and then I can't go back and forth.

7:29

I understand.

7:30

I apologize.

7:30

So as far as I know, it's being discussed in PED.

7:34

Um, so that's a different committee.

7:35

It that committees on Thursdays.

7:37

Um so you really um and the person that chairs that committee is Pro Temptates.

7:43

Um, so I I welcome you to ask him because it's in his committee right now.

7:47

Um, so it's in discussion in committee in PED that goes on Thursdays.

7:52

Um, so you can feel free to get more information there.

7:55

Um, but thank you, Mr.

7:56

Camillar.

7:57

I'm gonna go on to the next callers of the no worries.

8:00

Thank you, thank you.

8:01

We will now go on to the folks that we have online.

8:04

Um, who do we have first, Ms.

8:05

Duncan?

8:06

The first caller is not that Karen.

8:08

Thank you.

8:11

Hello.

8:12

Yes, good morning.

8:13

Good morning.

8:14

Um, yeah, that was very generous.

8:17

Uh the time you gave the extra time you gave that gentleman, but you told him right, you have to be fair to everyone because most people just get cut off.

8:24

We don't get a chance to continue rambling on.

8:27

Um, the homelessness is a big issue here in the city of Detroit, not just the city, the entire country.

8:33

Seems that we have an issue with homelessness.

8:35

It seems that we can find money for everything except to house the babies and feed the babies.

8:40

We need to do if we start on the local level, perhaps it'll be catching and it'll catch up state level, you know, nationwide.

8:47

Well, we can take care of the children.

8:49

The children are the future, and if we don't take care of the children, we have no future.

8:53

Um did Detroit retirees.

8:56

No, I retired in 2009, uh, before the 2013 bankruptcy.

9:02

Um, and a lot of people retire prior to that.

9:05

But yet we were still held responsible for something we had no you know, hand in.

9:10

And I think it's time that the city of Detroit makes us whole, restore our pensions, stop the claw back.

9:16

Um, you know, it's just it's just doesn't make any sense how nobody looks at that and everybody just looks over it to help help hope that it goes away by the retirees dying.

9:27

And a lot of them have passed away.

9:29

My mother was a Detroit retiree.

9:30

She passed away without seeing that uh rectified, you know, issue rectified.

9:35

So I like to see more um more direct action.

9:39

We don't need promises to get first in line to beg for something that we had already paid worked for and earned.

9:44

We want our money back.

9:45

We don't want to be first in line for an opportunity to be told no or placed on a list that's gonna eventually expire.

9:52

$600 million, same deal.

9:54

We need we need that our property tax money back.

10:00

I did some tabulations, and over my 49 years of owning homes, I paid over 150,000 in property taxes.

10:06

I don't have anything to show for it.

10:08

I have my property, but you're still taxing that and you're taxing my pension.

10:11

So I'm getting a double dip.

10:13

I don't appreciate it, and I don't know how much longer I'm gonna live.

10:16

I'd like my money back.

10:17

Thank you.

10:21

The next caller is iPhone.

10:23

I will put that I know that Mr.

10:25

Edges here.

10:29

Good morning to all within the sound of my voice.

10:31

This is Betty A.

10:32

Varner, president of the Soda Ellsworth Black Association.

10:37

If you would like to uh donate to our missions and our goals for our community, you can go to Zale and you can go to D put in D S N dog, E, D S N Boy, A W E, B S M Boy, E L at Gmail.com.

10:57

Again, that's D E B A W E B E L at Gmail.com.

11:06

Also, if you are a senior or you are disabled, you're living in your home, and you need help, please.

11:14

You can go to DAAAA, especially those who don't uh actually uh you're not eligible for Medicaid.

11:24

There's a program at DAA that you can earn up to 2900 a month and be eligible for the program and get Medicaid.

11:35

If you get Medicaid, then it opened up doors for other programs, and they will come in and will assist you with they will do an assessment and whatever it is you need to be able to stay in your home, they will assist you with it.

11:50

It is a federal government program.

11:54

You can uh reach DAA by calling 313 446 444 again 313 446 444.

12:07

I'm in the program.

12:08

It's a wonderful program.

12:10

The objective is to keep you out of a nursing home.

12:14

So please share this information.

12:17

If you don't need it, share it with your family, your friends.

12:21

There's other seniors out there who are not eligible for Medicaid, and they're not getting the services that they need so that they can be comfortable and safe in their homes.

12:32

Thank you.

12:33

God bless you all.

12:35

Thank you.

12:36

The next caller is owner Papa.

12:39

I need a motion.

12:44

All in favor indicated for stating aye.

12:46

Aye.

12:47

Any names?

12:49

Owner Papa, you're up next.

12:56

If you're speaking, we cannot hear you.

13:02

We can go to the next caller.

13:03

Uh Madam Chair, uh, Mr.

13:05

Rue.

13:09

That case has been adjourned.

13:12

Hello, everybody calling you are up next.

13:14

We can hear you.

13:15

Hey, madam chair.

13:18

You told that lie that you read that report that findings on the allegations, absentee ballot fraud or voter fraud by anonymous citizen report.

13:30

You said you read it on the 9th of May.

13:33

That was a lie because you didn't have it on the 9th of May.

13:37

I called your office on the 20th of May, and they said you didn't receive it.

13:43

So I wanted to bring that to the forefront so you could understand where I'm coming from with this.

13:49

Now, Letitia Johnson, uh, Mary Waters, Scott Vinson, and Angela Callaway, Angela Whitfield Callaway.

14:05

Y'all are cheated in.

14:08

Now, the reason why I'm saying that is because it's true.

14:12

You are cheated in public official.

14:14

Now, Consinata Lopez ushered you into office.

14:19

Uh, she knew what she knew.

14:22

I spoke to her extensively about what I found out.

14:26

Now Kenisha Coleman, the cover-up of her murder.

14:32

Um, as along with Kevin Samuel Isaiah White, is reprehensible, tragic.

14:40

Um the voter fraud, uh municipal bonds, uh number of issues here in the city of Detroit.

14:49

Now you head up this committee, public health and safety committee.

14:54

I got the 11 precinct officers over there trying to lock me up again after I done just went through what I went through.

15:05

So now I gotta do what I gotta do.

15:07

Nini won't what she won't.

15:09

Y'all don't want to give it to her, so I'm taking it.

15:12

Did you hear that?

15:13

Gabriela taking it flat out.

15:17

Thank you.

15:18

Also, for the record, I checked with my team, our phone calls or emails.

15:22

We have received no communication from you, and you never spoke to anyone in my office.

15:26

Uh, but we'll hear from you soon.

15:28

Who do we have next?

15:29

Next, we have Miko A.

15:31

Williams from Southwestern France that we gathered.

15:35

Residents are getting more sick.

15:37

Um, Councilmember Santiago Romero, I too would like to know where I'm sorry.

15:44

Can you hear me?

15:46

So yes, we can.

15:48

Okay.

15:48

Your time is going.

15:50

I too would like to know the uh status of the broadheads, uh armory and would like to know where do we what's going on?

15:58

The great company playing games.

16:01

I called in here because I wanted to uh speak to the city in regards to blasphemy and speaking on people that are uh made of God's image.

16:11

We all are made in God's image when you sit there and talk about a man that does right in favor of someone who is a sinner, a thief, and uh um and and worse than you know, we should all be careful because that same judgment will come down on us and will come down on you when you get there to the pearly gates.

16:36

This city is full of it, it's full of people that are toxic, negative.

16:42

They go to bed and wake up angry, they come up here, spew all sorts of lies and terrible things, and able just like you're coming after young people, and there is no positivity, there is no good news, there is no uh uh rectification for the 600 million dollar taxation.

17:07

Our seniors are dying.

17:09

Do you care?

17:10

We are people losing their homes.

17:12

800 families been to lose their homes uh at the end of the month.

17:17

Uh, and it's gonna be cold this winter.

17:19

So, what are we gonna do?

17:20

Where's the compassion?

17:22

I ain't heard no mayoral candidate, especially the lady sitting there talking about what she would do, and she had opportunities to handle this.

17:31

I think we need to choose another alternative, and the time is now before it's too late.

17:36

Don't sit up here until November 4th and wait uh until the last minute of the hour.

17:42

And that water crisis story was false.

17:47

The next caller is caller number ending in one two four, caller number ending one, two, four.

17:53

Thank you very much, thank you guys.

17:55

Any other public comment?

17:57

Any other public comment?

17:58

Any other public comments?

17:59

Start on my phone.

18:00

Caller ending in one two four, you're up next.

18:06

Yes, hello.

18:07

Can you hear me?

18:08

Yes, we can.

18:09

Okay, feel free.

18:10

Okay, hold on.

18:10

I need to get rid of the echo because my internet's been going in and out.

18:15

Thank you for calling on me.

18:16

One moment, please.

18:20

Okay, hopefully that's all stopped.

18:22

Can you hear me, Phil?

18:23

Yes, we can.

18:24

Hello?

18:25

Yes, we can.

18:26

We're gonna start your time.

18:28

Yes, we will.

18:30

Thank you.

18:31

Well, didn't you on the bridehead armory, like the parade company can find another place or fix their own building, and everyone is concerned about the bridehead armory?

18:43

Call Senator Rand Paul, who called out the port because they went to the federal government asking for money for the parade company.

18:51

So call Senator Rand Paul, you know, and that was another sweetheart deal.

18:55

$300,000 for waterfront property.

19:00

Um, so I also I do want to commend a member Coleman Young for calling out the political violence of the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

19:09

You may not agree with his ideas, but I have never seen that man be disrespectful to anybody.

19:14

And if anybody's interested about how many people are so sick of the Democratic Party, take a look at one of my favorite YouTubers named Doc Rich, D-O-C, R-I-C-H.

19:26

I think he's he loves Ohio State, he's black as it matters to you, and he did a video called Enough Is Enough.

19:33

They're Latino, Asian, white, black people, they're all sick of it, all this lip service about we care about you, like how you guys rushed the solar vote and you didn't even do your due diligence.

19:47

Like members I can remember.

19:49

I commend you for not voting for it.

19:51

But look at uh the Harvard business article, the dark side of solar and all the solar junk.

20:00

Because I'll tell you, it ain't going over very well with people in the rest of the state.

20:04

Y'all are gonna look pretty bad, all of you who have the stain of eminent domain.

20:09

And why didn't you make the people who who who got the spare ground to build their genomic warehouses put solar on their buildings?

20:17

And is that a data center over there, Mr.

20:20

Benson?

20:20

Is that a data center that other ginomics warehouse?

20:23

May I please get an answer?

20:24

Please don't ignore me.

20:25

You know, because some people that some people get addressed, and some people don't duly know that.

20:31

And so please the so and um any other the next caller is William and Davis.

20:37

All right, thank you very much.

20:38

All right, now we can good morning, people.

20:41

Can I be heard?

20:42

Yes, good morning.

20:43

Okay, I'd like to start off by saying I completely agree with everything that not that Karen said.

20:49

Uh, you know, just this year, over 400 city of Detroit general fund retirees have died.

20:54

That's one of over 3500, we only waited have died since the bankruptcy.

21:01

Terrible job, City of Detroit.

21:03

Terrible job.

21:04

Y'all need to restore us.

21:06

Also, looking at the agenda, item 5.1, the emergency demolition.

21:11

Okay, when we tear down a commercial property, do we attempt to get reimbursed for that?

21:17

Do we go after not just that property, any other properties they may own?

21:21

I think we should, especially 107,000 for uh somebody else's property.

21:28

Uh also item 5.4 to video release.

21:34

You know, this been on, you know, yeah, I've been holding this for over a year.

21:39

You know, this should be simple and easy.

21:42

And there are a number of departments throughout this country where you can get the video release in less than seven days.

21:48

When I was the board of the police commissioner, when we almost had a riot up there on Seven Mile and Woodward, and near that area 12th precinct because somebody got shot, and it was a video circling showing that it looked like an assassination.

22:03

That video was released.

22:04

That police video was released the same day.

22:07

You know, so things can happen.

22:10

Also, it should be a simple one for it on 5.6.

22:14

Y'all should be willing to support and encourage uh and support the fix our basement uh fix our flooded basement act.

22:24

I mean, that's simple.

22:25

Don't have to cost the city anything.

22:28

And I know for a fact that since the Detroit bankruptcy, because I was in the water department 34 years, we've had a whole lot of basements flooding, especially over in my area in aviation subdivision, not just on the east side, it happens over on the west side.

22:41

So we need better people running stuff.

22:43

Thank you.

22:47

The next caller's Tahira Ahmed.

22:50

No, the 29th.

22:55

Uh good morning.

22:56

Can I have the same amount of time you gave that uh gentleman at the beginning of the meeting?

23:01

I think you had two 2.15.

23:05

We had 2.15.

23:06

Uh, can I have the same?

23:08

And now you start my timing.

23:10

No, so pull me back to two.

23:12

No, you're not gonna keep your time now.

23:15

Same time you gave him, then put me back at two.

23:19

Then I'm asking, can you please give me the same amount of time?

23:23

No, ma'am.

23:24

Uh your time is clicking.

23:25

Okay, all right, all right.

23:26

I'm against uh that's uh thank you, Angela Winfield Callaway for uh for working on the flooding situation.

23:34

I am not for sanctuary cities.

23:37

The reason why I'm not for with sanctuary cities is because it's an attempt to replace black people and these immigrants that are illegal.

23:46

You can apply to be uh a illegal resident of the United States.

23:52

Uh, these lawbreakers demanding immigration, you don't pay taxes, ain't black, never build a thing here, die for any wars here, freedom uh or uh anything in America.

24:05

No offense, member Romero, but these illegal immigrants are lawbreakers who are often applying like uh should be uh applying like other people.

24:17

They have beat up black people, bomb their homes to move them out of the area so that they can dominate like they have in Southwest Detroit.

24:27

Southwest Detroit used to be all black, and these immigrants came in here with your help too.

24:33

Uh member Ramiro and just took over.

24:36

Some of them would not apply for that water uh help in the flooding because they were illegal, and now we need to uh uphold the law, and it's your fault that Donald Trump is in office because p black people have had it with being other people given preferential treatment while we're being abused and and uh uh denied our rights.

25:00

All right.

25:01

Uh are you for reparations, Romero?

25:04

Wanna know that?

25:07

Vice Chair Benson.

25:09

Thank you.

25:09

I just want to make clear the city of Detroit is not a sanctuary city.

25:12

We are, however, a welcoming city, and we welcome and value every resident within the city of Detroit.

25:19

Thank you.

25:20

Thank you, Vice Chair, and I am for reparations.

25:22

I supported the funding so that the city can move forward with the study to create the body to look for what kind of reparations detraiters need.

25:30

Um, and everything that you shared against immigrants um is incredibly hurtful.

25:34

Hope you have a blessed day, ma'am.

25:36

Who do we have next?

25:37

Next, we have Mr.

25:38

Ronald Foster.

25:43

Mr.

25:44

Foster, we can hear you.

25:46

Yes, ma'am good morning through the chair.

25:49

I wanted to uh speak today about political violence.

25:53

We talked about these things before.

25:55

We talked about domestic terrorism.

25:59

Um just by definition, according to the the World Health Organization.

26:05

Political violence is defined as the deliberate use of power and force to achieve political goals.

26:16

Uh political violence is characterized by both physical and psychological acts aimed at injuring or intimidating populations.

26:26

Now, with that being said, I think that we have to go over rights and memorandums and assure that law enforcement is distinctly different from political violence.

26:39

It goes on and on when you go to look at it that it can be perpetrated by government or civilians, it could be perpetrated by government against government.

26:49

We have to do a better job in our language here in ensure that law enforcement is not a method and a vehicle to gain political goals.

27:00

You know, and that's the bottom line to those things.

27:03

It is a violation of civil rights, it's a violation of the constitution, and I think a memorandum need to go to the U.S.

27:09

attorney's office as well, advising with language in this city that we would not accept political violence, it will not be backed up by the United States government or anybody else.

27:21

We should have fair elections here.

27:24

If people want to get voted in, they should get voted in off the merit of the work that they have done, not off of anything, not off the big money, not off arresting people, not off of chasing people, not off harassing people.

27:39

The city cannot afford to commit political violence against its citizens.

27:44

The word is going out, and I appreciate you all for this.

27:49

Thank you.

27:54

Madam Chair, we're gonna go back to owner Papa.

28:01

Good morning, and through the chair, may I be heard?

28:03

Yes, good morning.

28:04

You've heard some very um interesting comments this morning to things that you all should think about.

28:09

Um councilman Benson, you can always address things when when you you know you see fit to uh this is not a sanctuary city, although uh Mr.

28:19

Mallet, Conrad Mallet said we were running it like a sanctuary city, and we see what happened in Chicago.

28:24

I am in total agreement with uh Mr.

28:27

Hara.

28:28

People who come here illegally are just that illegal, and our tax dollars should not be going to support that, and the police should do their job.

28:36

They do their job when I do something illegal, and they should do something about illegal people who are here illegally.

28:43

Um, I'm in total agreement with uh not that Karen you all had a chance to rectify that with 75 million dollars.

28:52

We we we we get plenty of money, and you spend it the way you see fit to spend it, but you don't see uh addressing the issue with the retirees who took the brunt of the bankruptcy.

29:05

I think it's now time to make them whole.

29:08

It's been past time.

29:09

You have 5.9 on your um agenda today, which has been kicked around for since long before 2024.

29:17

We would like to know what you're doing about the housing that this Munaz is creating for our people.

29:24

And most of the people that I see coming down complaining are black people.

29:28

I don't see anybody else coming down saying they're living in inhabitable housings that is run by people like Munaz.

29:35

I would like for you to address Munez, and I'd like to know how Munaz got all of this housing.

29:40

Were they on the demolition list and you took them off and he bought them?

29:45

Um you are the health and safety committee.

29:50

We had a report on speed humps, and you decided you and this committee decided to receive and file.

29:58

I think you should address it.

30:00

I think you should address the particulate matter around the city is the same way you do in district six.

30:06

Um we have a thank you, Miss Duncan.

30:11

I believe that was our last caller.

30:12

Yes, madam chair, that's correct.

30:14

Thank you.

30:15

Um, and just a note, folks.

30:17

Human beings are not illegal, and laws are made up by people, and sometimes laws make sense and sometimes they don't, and currently we do not have laws that make sense that supports anyone who comes to this country to become a citizen.

30:30

It is incredibly difficult.

30:31

I've said it before, it's not easy.

30:33

You can't just apply.

30:34

You can't just pay a fine and become a citizen.

30:37

It's becoming it's become incredibly incredibly hard to do so.

30:40

Um, so that's not necessarily an option for everyone to move forward here.

30:44

Uh, but with that, we can go right ahead and go into the rest of our agenda for today.

30:48

We can go into unfinished business under unfinished business 5.1 and 5.2.

30:55

5.1 is contract number 3076.

31:02

This is for emergency demo at 23241 Finkel and 5.2.

31:10

This is contract number 307623.

31:14

This is for emergency demo at 1974 for uh Stalin.

31:20

We've been asked to bring these both back in one week if there's a motion to do so.

31:24

Motion here, no objections.

31:26

5.1 and 5.2 will be brought back in one week.

31:32

5.3.

31:34

This is contract number 6007 191, utilizing 100% city funding for a design build service for renovations needed and repair and updates to the Linden uh street facility.

31:49

This contractor's DMC consultants, the total contract is 500,000, and this will be for police.

31:57

Is there a motion to approve with discussion?

32:00

Motion to approve.

32:01

Um brief discussion, vice chair for myself.

32:04

I have a quick question.

32:05

Um, there is a note that this there should be a correction letter attached to this.

32:11

Um, not sure if that's the case.

32:13

Mr.

32:14

Washington or I'm not sure if LPD can help with this, but there says that a correction letter is needed because this is not going to be using general funds, it's going to be using the 911 search charge.

32:27

Mr.

32:28

Washington.

32:29

Yes, good morning, madam chair and committee.

32:31

We do have Jamila Watkins on from procurement, and I believe Robert Millender should be available as well.

32:37

If we can move them over as panelists, uh Miss Watkins is being moved over as a panelist, and I do not see uh Mr.

32:54

Millinder.

32:55

Okay.

33:14

Good morning.

33:15

Um, this is Jamila Watkins with the City of Detroit Office of Contracting and Procurement.

33:20

Good morning.

33:21

Thank you for joining us.

33:22

We're discussing item 5.3.

33:24

This is contract number 6007191.

33:28

And um the response uh we we had a number of questions.

33:34

Um, but one of the pieces of information that we received was that there should be a correction letter for this contract.

33:40

Um, do you know if that's the case?

33:42

Because if so, the correction letter should indicate that the funding is through the 911 search charge and not through general funds.

33:50

Um, I did hear you say that councilwoman Romero, and I am not aware of that.

33:56

What I'm doing right now as we speak, I'm trying to look at that original requisition to see if there is a discrepancy, but I am not aware of the need uh for or request for any correction letter.

34:11

Okay.

34:12

Uh so it is gonna be using city funds, general funds then.

34:24

I'm verifying that right now, but there could possibly have been a change made that I have not been made aware of.

34:32

So I uh at the moment, I'm just gonna look up what I had with the original requisition, and perhaps um Robert Millender may have other information.

34:43

Is he on?

34:43

I don't I don't recall.

34:46

Through the chair, Mr.

34:47

Washington.

34:48

Yes, can we bring this back to the end of the agenda?

34:50

Uh Mr.

34:51

Millender is um in transit right now.

34:52

He's gonna pull over to joint session.

34:55

Okay, no worries.

34:56

Then without objection, we will come back to 5.3 at the end of our agenda.

35:03

Moving us along.

35:04

5.4.

35:05

This is a memo relative to request to draft an ordinance regarding DPD video release.

35:11

Is there a motion to discuss?

35:12

Motion.

35:13

Thank you to the law departments.

35:14

Where are we in the process?

35:15

Through the chair Graham Anderson Law Department.

35:17

This is appropriate to receive and file.

35:20

You will be receiving a draft uh uh ordinance to this uh proposed legislation next week.

35:27

It has been approved by corporation council.

35:30

Thank you.

35:31

Would you happen to know what the language is as far as how long it is, how long the ordinance is going to hold the video content for before it is released?

35:41

The proposed uh legislation currently is 30 days.

35:44

30 days.

35:45

Okay.

35:46

Understood.

35:47

Um and then this will come to PHS for discussion, correct?

35:50

That is my understanding.

35:51

Okay, thank you.

35:52

Is there a motion to receive and file 5.4?

35:55

Motion.

35:56

Hearing no objections, 5.4 will be received and filed.

35:59

Discussion.

36:00

Vice Chair.

36:01

Through yourself to the law department, has prosecutor worthy's office been engaged on this ordinance through the chair to council member Benson.

36:09

Yes, we have uh had meetings with uh prosecutor Kim Worthy.

36:13

We have uh had meetings with uh police chief Todd Bettison.

36:17

We've um uh internally had several discussions about this.

36:21

This is uh the reason for this long delay is there has been a lot of people that have had valuable input on this matter uh to the caller who thought this was simple.

36:32

I can assure you it was not simple.

36:34

There was a lot of moving pieces and a lot of chefs in the kitchen.

36:37

Thank you.

36:40

Thank you both.

36:41

Moving us along to 5.5.

36:44

This is a recommendation for recession.

36:47

This for 7285 prairie.

36:50

Is there a motion to discuss or concur with the department's findings?

36:56

Motion to approve.

36:58

There is a motion to concur and approve 5.5 hearing no objections.

37:04

We will concur with the recommendation from B seed.

37:08

5.8 through excuse me, 5.6 through 5.8.

37:12

These are all various memos.

37:14

5.6 is a memo relative to fix our flooding basement acts, 5.7 memo relative to child abduction broadcast act amendments, and 5.8 is a memo relative to request for resolution in support of Senate Bill 492.

37:31

Is there a motion to discuss 5.6 through 5.8?

37:36

Motion.

37:36

Thank you.

37:37

LPD, where are we with these memos?

37:40

Good morning, madam chair, Edward King LPD.

37:43

Uh these items have been completed and sent to East Gribe.

37:46

However, they are not attached to the agenda.

37:48

Can you bring these items back in one week, please?

37:51

Yes.

37:52

Motion.

37:53

Hearing no objections, 5.6 through 5.8 will be brought back in one week.

37:58

Thank you.

37:59

Moving us along to 5.9.

38:02

This is a memo relative to Munoz real estate uh and follow-ups with BC.

38:07

Is there a motion to discuss?

38:08

Motion.

38:09

Thank you.

38:09

Mr.

38:09

Washington, who do we have from BC to discuss?

38:15

Yes, through the chair, we have Crystal Rogers and Elizabeth Johnson Johnson online.

38:20

Okay, if we can move them over as panelists.

38:30

I don't see Elizabeth online.

38:36

Okay.

38:38

I have also moved over Arthur Russian as well.

38:42

Thank you.

38:54

And to our folks from BC, do you have been moved as panelists?

38:57

You should be able to join us now.

39:01

Good morning to you both.

39:03

If you wouldn't mind setting your names and titles for the public, our Russian chief enforcement officer.

39:14

Good morning to you both.

39:15

Good to see you.

39:17

Um, just wondering if there are any updates for us.

39:20

Um, last time we had a discussion, I believe it was probably last year.

39:24

Um we wanted to give you some time given the amounts of properties Munoz Real Estate has.

39:30

Um, last we heard instead of lowering their fee counts, it was getting higher.

39:36

Um, and we did not see a ton of certificates of compliance come through.

39:40

So wondering where we are in in that process.

39:42

How much does he have in tickets?

39:45

How many certificates of compliance does he have?

39:47

Where is he in the process?

39:50

Right to the chair.

39:52

Um, Mr.

39:53

Munoz um has registered uh roughly 95% um of his rental properties.

40:00

Uh we are still uh meeting with him uh since July on a bi-weekly basis, and he has um got into uh 37% um compliance with his properties.

40:19

We are um have expectations for him to schedule at least 18 inspections per week, and so far he has um met that target.

40:31

And uh we have a another meeting scheduled um by the end of this week uh to confirm some of the properties that he says that he no longer owns, and so we're looking for uh verification that those properties um have been sold.

40:50

Thank you.

40:51

Is there a way to give him a timeline on when we want to be in compliance to be at 37 percent um at this point after this being an issue for a couple of years now?

41:01

Um, what is a timeline for he to for him to come into compliance at least an 80 or 90 percent compliance?

41:09

Well, we have not stopped um issuing tickets um for any properties that are still um not complied, and so we are um looking at before the end of the year um his compliance numbers coming up.

41:23

Okay, and if you wouldn't mind sharing with us, what does it mean to register your properties versus being 35% in compliance?

41:31

To register property is free, it's just a matter of going online through the elabs uh system and registering um the property and providing uh proof of ownership.

41:47

Understood.

41:48

Um is he in his fees and his tickets?

41:52

It's outstanding fees since uh July of this year, he has paid uh roughly about 10,000 in tickets.

42:01

Uh he still has a substantial amount of tickets um that he still owes.

42:06

How many tickets is the does he still owe?

42:09

So as of uh July, he has about 200,000 in tickets.

42:16

Understood.

42:17

So we also received a note from the water departments mentioning that some of his properties have no active accounts with the water departments, but there are tenants in their homes.

42:28

Have you heard about this?

42:29

No, I have not.

42:31

All right, this is from DWSD.

42:33

If we can please check on this, um, because if it's free to register your your home, that seems like a very easy uh easy lift.

42:40

Um to make sure that you're in compliance, that you have running water, that you have safe properties is the hard work.

42:46

Um, and I don't know, this is getting a little ridiculous, folks.

42:50

I'm not really sure um what else we need to do.

42:54

I appreciate when the city goes um when A City goes after bad companies.

42:59

Um, and I'm sure I know we're working with them.

43:02

I don't we don't want to say that this is a bad company since we're working together, but this is really unfair.

43:08

This is housing that's being supportive provided for people.

43:11

Um, people that um I know there was a caller that mentioned the majority black folks, black women come here that we see that are being impacted by this, but I know that there are undocumented people who are scared to come to come through.

43:23

And it worries me that we have people that are undocumented that are scared of retaliation to come through to complain about their properties and to hear that only that less than 40 percent of his properties are in compliance, that he has over 200,000 in tickets.

43:37

This to me only shows that he probably has properties that are are not safe to be in.

43:44

Um, and we're kind of letting him get away with this.

43:47

Um are we able to work with residents to to put their money into escrow accounts while while uh changes are being made to the properties?

43:57

Um to the chair, um, I believe that um uh HRD, the housing and revitalization department, um, they are in the process of um bringing their uh rental escrow uh process online, but any time um a tenant wants to put their rent um in escrow, um they can do that um through other organizations um that offer um rental escrow programs.

44:25

Okay, all right.

44:29

I think we need to have a conversation then with HRD because this is concerning.

44:34

Um, and this isn't just an issue in district six, Munoz has properties across the city.

44:38

Um so this is impacting Detroiters, I'm pretty sure in in multiple districts in the city.

44:44

Um he has 134 tickets in D4.

44:47

Um, so I I don't think that this is necessarily just a district six or my issue.

44:53

These are homes that are being impacted across the district.

45:00

Um, and and I do believe that we want uh owners or um renters um to be in safe living conditions.

45:03

Um are there any other questions from my colleagues?

45:06

I am going to bring this back again for discussion.

45:09

Um I think it's important to keep it on the record uh where we are in the process.

45:14

Um yeah, has there been any discussion about and is it even possible to sue Munoz if he doesn't comply with a timeline if we give him a timeline to get into compliance?

45:28

What are the other mechanisms here that that we can use to hold them accountable?

45:33

And uh to the chair, uh we are looking at strategies such as law if he fails to uh perform.

45:44

All right, so you and I need to have a meeting separately about what these goals are and what this timeline is because we're working with him, we're working with the company.

45:55

Let's set expectations, and then if there's a failure of performance, then we need to take legal action.

46:03

Um, but it's been over a year now.

46:05

Um this is does not seem to be getting any better of the things that we need to change um because being 40% under compliance, um, doing the easy thing of of registering your property that's free, um, but still having over 200,000 dollars of tickets.

46:21

I'm just really nervous about our our our residents.

46:23

I'm really really nervous about their living conditions.

46:26

Um if there's no other questions or comments though, uh is there a motion to and thank you both.

46:32

Is there anything that you want to share anything else that you either of you want to share um during this process, what the city's been doing um, or anything else that you want to share on this topic?

46:44

Uh no.

46:46

All right.

46:47

Well, thank you both.

46:47

Is there a motion to bring back 5.9 TBD?

46:51

Uh motion and a question.

46:53

Um member waters.

46:55

If the clerk can because we know uh we've been joined by member waters.

46:59

Thank you, Member Waters.

47:01

Um so thank you for your question.

47:03

I kind of heard the tail end of it, but um I'm certainly anxious um for the um city to come online uh with escrow accounts because especially because of all of the issues that our renters are are experiencing here in this city.

47:22

Um do you know how far out HRD is with that?

47:27

Uh and and then you know, other cities are finding unique ways to deal with these people who are not in compliance.

47:33

And uh I intend to bring back some of those things that they're using to make sure that it happens.

47:40

Do you know how far along we are?

47:43

Uh through the chair.

47:46

Through the chair, um uh council member Waters.

47:50

Um, as far as the exact timeline, I do not know the exact timeline, but I know that uh some of the um discussions that we've had.

47:58

Um I believe that um we're close uh to submitting um HRD is close uh to submitting um their process.

48:09

I know I think it was supposed to be July, but I guess they ran into some snags or something.

48:18

I'm not sure.

48:20

Okay.

48:20

All right then.

48:21

Um thank you, madam chair.

48:23

I've already made the motion, TBD.

48:25

Thank you.

48:26

Thank you.

48:27

We will bring back 5.9 TBD um to both HRD and B seed.

48:32

Um we should meet soon to come together and have a plan for this.

48:36

So look be in the lookout for that conversation, please, and thank you.

48:41

I will now move us along to the rest of the agenda.

48:47

Oh, and just another quick note for my colleagues and their teams that might be listening in district one.

48:53

There are 146 tickets from Munoz properties, district two, 115, district three, 176, district four, 134, district five, 29, district six, 227, and district seven, 251.

49:12

This is uh completely unacceptable.

49:15

And have over 200, and the rest of our districts have over 100.

49:20

District 5 has the least amount of tickets.

49:23

Um I I really hope that we can figure something out.

49:27

Discussion.

49:27

Vice Chair.

49:31

Through the chair.

49:33

I'm unaware of where we stand in the process to collect here, but I'm happy to uh ask around to get some answers for this body.

49:41

Oh so I have a question on this one.

49:44

What's the nuclear option here?

49:46

What is our most aggressive and punitive option in this situation?

49:53

Yeah, we as a council can unilaterally take with this recalcitrant landlord.

50:01

Through the chair, you as a council, I'm not sure, but through as the law department, we absolutely can take um litigation action against these actors, which we have in the past.

50:15

Um and look to recoup the losses as well as uh other potential injunctive relief, as you've seen in uh like the real token property lawsuit, for example.

50:29

I don't have all the facts in front of me for this specific case, so I'm not sure what's exactly on the table.

50:35

A lot of it is very case-by-case dependent.

50:37

Uh, but I'm I'm happy to speak with uh the head of our uh litigation team as well as our blight department and uh get back some uh detailed answers for this body.

50:46

That would be very helpful.

50:48

Uh through the chair to LPD.

50:51

If you all could come up, have put some thought into this as well.

50:54

It just seems that the chair has put this on the table for quite some time.

50:58

This is an extensive um conversation that we've been having regarding this landlord, but it doesn't seem that compliance is being met, nor does it be much movement by the landlord to become compliance, compliant with the ordinances.

51:15

And so I'm just interested if there are some other um painful options that can be brought to bear to compel compliance by this landlord, and maybe the LPD staff has some creative thoughts here.

51:28

Thank you, Vice Chair.

51:29

Just the LPD.

51:31

Um there was a report done, I believe, last year or the year before, where we asked this very question.

51:37

We can pull it up, we can review it, lock and review it.

51:40

Um, what we've asked, we've got the reports, it's about making sure that we move forward.

51:45

Um, and I believe action needs to be taken by the administration.

51:49

Um, so if we can pull that report, I'm not sure if things have changed.

51:55

Um, anything else that you might find?

51:58

Um, but you're correct, Vice Chair.

52:00

We've we talked about this for a while.

52:02

We've been asking for support and help in reports.

52:04

We have those.

52:05

Um, just wondering if there's anything else that we can be doing.

52:08

LPD.

52:09

Uh yes, we will be happy to pull the report and explore uh new ideas for solutions.

52:16

Thank you.

52:17

Thank you.

52:18

Thank you all.

52:20

Moving us along to five.

52:23

Oh, yes, uh, member member Dr.

52:26

Powers.

52:27

Um I uh I think Mr.

52:29

Benson would like to make a motion to give the assignment to LPD.

52:35

Madam Parliamentary, thank you for that, but not at this time.

52:37

We're gonna have some private conversations, and then we may come back to the table with the request for report.

52:41

Thank you.

52:42

Thank you, Dr.

52:43

Powers.

52:46

Moving us along to new business under the Office of Contract and the Procurement 6.1 through 6.5 are all various uh contracts.

52:56

6.1 is contract number 6006950, utilizing 100% state funding.

53:03

This is using state of Michigan Eagle and Brown Field grant funding to provide environmental assessments, remediation, and due care services for preserve on ash.

53:13

Three, the redevelopment project.

53:15

The contractor is a community builder, they're located in Columbus, Ohio.

53:20

This will be good till September 10th, 2027, and this is a one million dollar contract.

53:27

6.2 is contract number 6007391 utilizing 100% grant funding for a comprehensive navigation services uh to provide comprehensive navigation services for HIV and STIs.

53:40

Contractors community health awareness group, they're located in Detroit.

53:44

This is a two-year contract for 85,000 dollars.

53:48

6.3 is contract number 6006087.

53:54

Amendment number one.

53:55

This is using 100% ARPA funding.

53:58

This will only extend the time only for evaluation services of the ShotSpotter CVI program.

54:05

Contractor is regents of the University of Michigan.

54:08

They're located in Inn Ann Arbor.

54:10

This will go through September, excuse me, this will go through July 31st, 2026, and it is only for an extension of time.

54:20

6.4 is contract number 6006740 and amendment number one to provide a two-year renewal for rides to care program.

54:30

Contractors CCM Consulting Group, they're located in Chicago, Illinois.

54:36

The contract is being extended through October 30th, 2025, and there is an increase of 400,000.

54:45

That will be for the health departments.

55:00

Owned conduit lines.

55:01

The con contractor is extents net systems located in Detroit.

55:06

This will be a five-year contract.

55:09

And the fee will be 1500 per poll year plus utility charges.

55:16

We can have that discussion once we get to the item.

55:19

But is there a motion to discuss six points one through six point five?

55:23

Motion.

55:24

Thank you, Member Benson.

55:26

Mr.

55:26

Washington, who do we have to discuss six point one?

55:34

Yes, through the chair, we do have Anita Harrington online.

55:37

If we can move her over as a panelist.

55:46

She's a move over as a panelist, Madam Chair.

55:48

Thank you.

56:03

Good morning.

56:05

If you wouldn't mind setting your name and title for the public.

56:14

Thank you for joining us.

56:15

Just wondering if you can share with us a little bit more regarding the preserve on ash uh project.

56:22

Um this is a grant to clean up the site, which is exciting.

56:28

Um, but if you wouldn't mind letting us know that the timeline for this um and how it would impact the timeline of the development project.

56:38

So the timeline is um they want to start this fall and be completed in time for construction by next uh by the next construction period, April May time frame.

56:50

Okay, awesome.

56:51

Thank you.

56:52

And then will there be any other need to clean up any of any other sites for this project, or will this be um the last one?

57:03

The grant is specific to the poet to the preserve on ash three project.

57:10

Yes, I understand that.

57:11

Will there be need to clean up any other parts or are is this so this is preserved on ash three?

57:18

Is this the last of it for the project for the full development project, the housing project?

57:23

Oh, I'm sorry, that that I'm not absolutely certain.

57:26

I can check and see what what they're doing for the other segments.

57:31

Okay, thank you.

57:32

Just interested because this is in district six, and we get lots of questions of what's going on when things are happening in the city.

57:40

Um, and it's good for me to know where we are in the process, how much more we have to go.

57:45

Um, that way I'm able to share that information as well.

57:50

Okay.

57:51

Okay.

57:52

Um, hearing no other questions for 6.1.

57:56

Thank you.

57:56

That was my last question for this item.

58:00

We can move on to 6.2.

58:04

If there are any questions for 6.2 or any need for discussion.

58:08

Hearing none.

58:11

Is there need for discussion for 6.3, 4, or 5?

58:17

If not, is there motion to approve 6.1 through 6.5?

58:21

Motion.

58:22

Hearing no objections, 6.1 through 6.5 will be approved.

58:26

Sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

58:30

Moving us down to the Department of Appeals and Hearings.

58:32

6.6 is the dangerous buildings findings and orders for August 29th, 2025.

58:38

Is there a motion to receive and file?

58:40

Motion.

58:41

Hearing no objections, 6.6 will be received and filed under the buildings and safety engineering environmental departments.

58:51

6.7 through 6.9 are all deferral recommendations for deferrals.

58:56

6.7's a deferral at 5301 East Outer Drive.

59:02

6.8 is for 5311 East Outer Drive.

59:10

And 6.9 is a deferral for 9765 Sanalic.

59:16

Is there a motion to concur with the department's recommendations?

59:21

Discussion.

59:22

Vice Chair.

59:23

I'd like to bring back line items five point or just move forward.

59:28

6.7 is 6.8.

59:30

These are both addresses and an existing now defunct SOB.

59:36

I'd like to find out if that use is going to continue.

59:40

If so, I have issues with this property and like to find out what the potential of the proposed use is.

59:46

I'm glad that they are bringing it back online, but the use is problematic for that community.

59:51

Understood.

59:52

So 6.7 and 6.8.

59:54

There's a motion to bring back in one week.

59:57

Motion for discussion.

59:58

Motion for discussion only.

1:00:00

Discussion.

1:00:01

Well, there will be a motion to bring back with this from the um administration to get the um updated use of those if that use has been removed.

1:00:10

You want to check in right now with okay, Mr.

1:00:12

Washington.

1:00:13

Do you have anyone to discuss 6.7 and 6.8?

1:00:20

Um, I do not see my representative online, but I will be sure to follow up with the department prior to next week.

1:00:25

Motion to bring back one hearing hearing no objection, 6.7 and 6.8 will be brought back in one week.

1:00:32

Is there motion to concur with 6.9?

1:00:35

Motion.

1:00:36

Hearing no objection, 6.9.

1:00:39

We will concur with the department's recommendation to defer.

1:00:43

Under the office of Chief Financial Office, Office of Development and Grants.

1:00:48

6.10 is to accept and appropriate the fiscal year 2022 battery electric buses and charging infrastructure grants.

1:00:59

This is a match grants of 1,245,790.

1:01:12

6.10 is an authorization to submit a grant application to the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services for the fiscal year two 2026 firearm safety grants.

1:01:25

Is there a motion to approve or discuss six points 10 and 6.11?

1:01:29

Motion to approve discussion.

1:01:31

Vice Chair.

1:01:36

Just what can we look forward to here?

1:01:39

Mr.

1:01:39

Washington, who do we have to discuss?

1:01:45

Through the chair, we have Kinesha Yokala from DDP.

1:01:50

If we can make them into a panelist.

1:02:01

Thank you.

1:02:12

Good morning.

1:02:13

It's Kinesha Yao for DDAT here, the grants manager.

1:02:17

Good morning.

1:02:18

We cannot see you, but we can hear you.

1:02:21

Um are you able to discuss six point?

1:02:23

Oh, we can oh, hello.

1:02:25

Um, if you wouldn't mind setting your name and title for the public as well.

1:02:32

Uh my name is Ricky Amaker.

1:02:34

I'm the chief uh senior capital projects manager here at Dow.

1:02:37

Thank you both for joining.

1:02:38

To whoever can give us updates on where we are on our electric bus and what this grant is going to uh is going to support us doing uh through the chair.

1:02:52

Uh through the chair, I can describe uh for for uh the on our body what we are looking forward to.

1:02:58

Um we're gonna be having uh at least one charger uh for the um service that's gonna be an endpoint charger depot charger, and uh we will have uh electric buses as part of this.

1:03:10

I would have to defer to Miss Uh Yao about how many buses that we were looking for.

1:03:15

That's gonna be four.

1:03:16

So you're gonna have two um 60 foot articulated, and then I believe two 40 foot four together.

1:03:25

Both electric battery electric buses.

1:03:29

And when should we expect these to be brought online, actually put in service?

1:03:36

Well, I can tell you.

1:03:37

Oh, there he is.

1:03:39

Our maintenance manager is here to give you that information.

1:03:42

If you wouldn't mind stating your name and title for the public, good morning, madam chair.

1:03:47

Uh Gio Joy, assistant director of maintenance.

1:03:51

Thank you for joining us.

1:03:52

I believe.

1:03:53

What was the question that we had for?

1:03:55

Thank you, madam chair.

1:03:57

When can we expect these buses to be brought online and put into service?

1:04:05

Uh through Madam Chair to Councilmember Benson.

1:04:08

Uh, we are currently working on finalizing the contract uh for buying the two battery electric 40 foot and uh two 60 foot battery electric buses.

1:04:18

We are hoping to get the contract finished up end of this month, and uh we will have a timeline uh for the uh the buses to be in service this year.

1:04:31

So this year, so we're looking to have these buses finalized by the end of this year and in service.

1:04:36

Yes, that's that's what we're working towards.

1:04:40

Okay, all right.

1:04:41

Thank you.

1:04:43

Thank you.

1:04:45

Thanks everyone.

1:04:47

I believe that was my our our only questions for 6.10.

1:04:50

Hearing no questions for 6.11.

1:04:52

Is there a motion to approve?

1:04:54

Motion.

1:04:55

Hearing no objections, 6.10 and 6.11 will be approved.

1:04:58

Is there a motion to send to new business?

1:05:00

Motion.

1:05:01

Will be sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

1:05:06

Under the departments of public work city engineering division.

1:05:11

6.12 is a petition of the Arab American and Chaldean Council to encroach for a installation of a building mounted blade sign.

1:05:30

And 15th Street.14 is a petition of the Hemelhawk requesting for encroachment within the eastern parts of Washington Boulevard for an installation of an on-site advertising sign.

1:05:58

6.15 is a position of Olympia Entertainment's request for an outright vacation of Columbia Streets, commonly known as 2211 Woodward Avenue.

1:06:12

And 6.16 is a position of a poll requesting a vacation with the reservation of a utility easement.

1:06:20

And this would be for believe in Alley.

1:06:25

So this is going to be East West Public Alley bounded.

1:06:30

Yes, by Burnett Street, Alaska Street, Prairie Street, and Lisdale Streets.

1:06:36

Motion to discuss.

1:06:37

Thank you, Member Waters.

1:06:39

Mr.

1:06:39

Washington, who do we have to discuss these items?

1:06:46

The chair, we have Richard Dorsey online.

1:06:48

If we can make him into a panelist.

1:06:58

Thank you.

1:07:06

Good morning, manager.

1:07:08

Good morning.

1:07:09

Thank you for joining us.

1:07:10

If you wouldn't mind stating your name and title for the public.

1:07:17

Good to see you.

1:07:18

We have a number of requests today.

1:07:20

Um have just brief questions for 6.13.

1:07:28

This is just to can you explain what this means actually?

1:07:33

I know that we changed the name um we renamed 14th Street to Werner.

1:07:39

It's just wondering uh what this request is asking for.

1:07:43

So when we vacated the old Werner Street and 15th Street through uh Roosevelt Park so that they could uh um uh make the park you know into one large uh park area without streets uh through the middle of them.

1:08:01

Uh we already went through that process.

1:08:04

MDOT is asking us to decertify those streets from our Act 51 map, which is the map that kind of shows what streets uh we get state funding for.

1:08:16

So it just will remove those uh streets from their uh from their map.

1:08:23

Does that mean that these streets no longer qualify for street funding?

1:08:27

Correct, but they're no longer streets.

1:08:29

So we removed them uh general services department removed them when they uh built the enlarged park at Roosevelt Park.

1:08:39

Okay to cut through the parks.

1:08:41

Right.

1:08:42

Okay, that I understand.

1:08:44

Okay, thank you.

1:08:45

That's helpful.

1:08:47

Um brief questions for 6.14.

1:08:50

This on-site advertising sign.

1:08:53

Do we know what kind of sign it will be?

1:08:56

Will it be illuminated?

1:08:59

Um will it just be uh um a sign?

1:09:06

Just wondering what does the sign look like because we have residents that are are concerned that it will be illuminated and that they won't be and that it'll um bring light into their rooms overnight.

1:09:17

Do you have any idea what the sign looks like?

1:09:20

I don't know the specifics of the sign other than the dimensions it'll hang off the front of the uh Himelho's building.

1:09:28

Uh it is uh two and a half feet long into the right-of-way or two point three feet long into the right-of-way, two point three feet high.

1:09:38

Imagine it'll be illuminated and it is for the Museum of Illusions.

1:09:46

That will be uh entering the ground floor space of that uh building.

1:09:51

So it may not be dissimilar to other types of uh business storefront signs that you find along Washington Boulevard.

1:10:00

Okay, thank you.

1:10:01

Member Waters.

1:10:02

Yeah, thank you.

1:10:03

Um I was gonna ask a similar question regarding the Hemohoe building.

1:10:08

Um there's so many issues at that building already.

1:10:12

I want to know if in fact the conversation we've had with some of the residents there by uh the department.

1:10:22

Yeah, we did not reach out to uh individual uh tenants uh um but uh well I'd like to have an opportunity to speak with the um at least uh president of the tenant council or some couple of them.

1:10:39

So uh my motion to bring this back in one week, madam chair.

1:10:43

6.14.

1:10:45

Thank you, member waters.

1:10:47

I I too have questions, and I want to talk to residents and to the developer to get a better understanding of how this could impact residents there.

1:10:55

So happy to bring this back in one week.

1:10:58

6.14 will be brought back in one week.

1:11:01

Uh that leaves us with 6.15 and 16.

1:11:07

If there are any questions for these items, seeing none.

1:11:14

Is there a motion to approve 6.12 through 6.16 excluding 6.14?

1:11:22

Motion hearing no objections, we will approve 6.12, 6.13, 6.15, and 6.16.

1:11:30

Uh, we'll be sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

1:11:34

Motion is send 6.12 to new business.

1:11:37

Hearing no objections, 6.12 will be sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

1:11:42

Thank you, Mr.

1:11:43

Doherty.

1:11:48

Under miscellaneous 6.17.

1:11:50

This is a memo relative to questions on Detroit ordinances and policies regarding the use of vape products.

1:11:57

We've been asked to bring this back in two weeks.

1:11:59

Motion.

1:12:00

Hearing no objections, 6.17 will be brought back in two weeks.

1:12:04

We're down to member reports, but I believe we have two items we have to go back to.

1:12:08

Mr.

1:12:08

Washington.

1:12:12

Yes, madam chair.

1:12:13

We do have Robert Millender online.

1:12:16

Okay, and Madam Clerk, do we recall which items we have not completed yet?

1:12:23

5.3.

1:12:24

Okay, thank you.

1:12:28

I want to prove that.

1:12:34

Okay.

1:12:34

Is there a motion to discuss 5.3?

1:12:36

Motion.

1:12:37

Here, no objections.

1:12:39

And then who do we have to discuss 5.3?

1:12:46

Ma'am, are you joining us for 5.3?

1:12:48

Or Mr.

1:12:48

Washington who's joining us for 5.3?

1:12:52

Yes.

1:12:53

Um, I see him joining our Robert Millander is on with us.

1:12:58

Thank you.

1:13:00

Oh, hello.

1:13:01

If you wouldn't mind setting your name and title for the public.

1:13:05

Um, Robert Millen, the director of public safety IT.

1:13:08

Thank you for joining us.

1:13:09

Um, for five points three.

1:13:13

Oh, just wondering if there needs to be a correction letter.

1:13:16

Um, currently it reads that this is being paid for through general funds.

1:13:21

Uh, but we got a note that it might be getting paid through the 911 search charge funding.

1:13:25

Do you know what's um which um revenue line this is going to use?

1:13:33

Gonna use 911 surcharge funding.

1:13:35

Okay.

1:13:36

So then we do need a correction letter for this.

1:13:38

Um, do you think that we can get a correction letter?

1:13:41

I I know that this is it seems to be urgent.

1:13:44

We maybe we were requested to send this to new business.

1:13:47

Um, but I would want a correction letter before we do so.

1:13:50

Can we bring this back in one week, or would you be prepared to give us a correction letter by tomorrow formal session?

1:13:57

I can get a correction out of tomorrow by formal session.

1:14:00

Okay, so we'll we'll make a note of this for ourselves.

1:14:03

Um, and if there are no other questions or concerns, is there a motion to approve 5.3 and send to new business?

1:14:11

Motion.

1:14:12

Hearing no objections, 5.3 will be approved, sent to new business with the recommendation to approve, noting that we need the correction letter for us to be able to move this out uh formal tomorrow.

1:14:25

Thank you.

1:14:26

Thank you.

1:14:28

I believe that's our last item, madam clerk.

1:14:31

I'm getting the nod.

1:14:32

We received requests to um send to new business six point one through six point four.

1:14:44

Six point one is the grants for remediation, six point two is the comprehensive navigation services for HIV and STIs.

1:14:55

6.3 is the shot spotter evaluation and 6.4 is the two-year renewal for rides to care program.

1:15:02

Is there a motion to send to new business?

1:15:04

Motion.

1:15:05

Here, no objections.

1:15:06

6.1 through 6.4 will be sent to new business.

1:15:15

Reminder at 1 30 p.m.

1:15:17

today we will have our dangerous buildings.

1:15:20

So we'll see you soon.

1:15:21

We have a shorter list than usual.

1:15:24

So we'll see how it goes.

1:15:25

We'll see everyone soon.

1:15:27

With that, we will stand at recess till 1 30.

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Summary of Proceedings

Detroit Public Health and Safety Committee Meeting – September 15, 2025

The Detroit City Council Public Health and Safety Committee met on September 15, 2025, at approximately 10:00 AM under Chairperson Santiago Romero. The meeting covered public comments, unfinished business, new business, and several committee reports. Key discussions included the status of the Broadhead Armory, DPD video release ordinance, a recalcitrant landlord (Munoz Real Estate), and various contracts and petitions. The committee also noted a dangerous buildings hearing scheduled for 1:30 PM.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Mr. Cunningham (in-person) expressed concerns about Detroit Department of Transportation (DDOT) service delays on Jefferson and Woodward routes, describing 30–40 minute waits. He thanked the council for support and urged improvements.
  • Tony Camillary (in-person) voiced strong support for the Marine Corps Reserve Center (Broadhead Armory), calling it a “gem” and urging the city to allow the parade company to purchase or extend the lease. He shared personal history of maintaining the facility and noted its deterioration after the Marines left.
  • Not that Karen (online) criticized the committee for allowing extra time to the first speaker, demanded restoration of Detroit retiree pensions, and called for return of property tax overpayments ($600 million). She also highlighted homelessness and child welfare.
  • Betty A. Varner (online, president of Soda Ellsworth Black Association) promoted a senior/disabled assistance program through DAA (Detroit Area Agency on Aging), providing Medicaid eligibility and in-home support. She also gave donation information for her organization.
  • Owner Papa (online) accused the chair of lying about receiving a voter fraud report, alleged cheating by certain officials, and referenced the murder of Kenisha Coleman. He also criticized the city’s handling of municipal bonds and voter fraud.
  • Miko A. Williams (online) expressed concern about residents getting sick and inquired about the Broadhead Armory status. She also criticized the parade company and called for action on the $600 million taxation issue and senior homelessness.
  • Caller ending 124 (online) opposed the parade company’s efforts on the Broadhead Armory, called for contacting Senator Rand Paul, and criticized the solar vote and eminent domain. She also commended Councilmember Coleman Young for calling out political violence.
  • William and Davis (online) agreed with “Not that Karen” on retiree pensions, noted over 400 Detroit general fund retirees died this year, asked about reimbursement for emergency demolitions, criticized DPD video release delays, and supported the “Fix Our Flooded Basement Act.”
  • Tahira Ahmed (online) objected to sanctuary cities, claimed illegal immigrants are replacing black residents, and accused Councilmember Romero of supporting immigration policies harmful to Black Detroiters. She also asked about reparations.
  • Ronald Foster (online) defined political violence, urged a memorandum to the U.S. Attorney’s Office against political violence, and called for fair elections free from harassment.
  • Later caller (owner Papa again) demanded action on retiree pensions, criticized Munoz Real Estate for unsafe housing, and asked about speed humps and particulate matter. She noted the committee had received and filed a report on speed humps.

Discussion Items

  • Unfinished Business 5.1 and 5.2 – Emergency Demolitions (23241 Finkel and 1974 Stalin): Brought back after one week; motion to approve carried.
  • 5.3 – Renovation of Linden Street Facility (Police) – Contract No. 6007191, $500,000. A correction letter was needed to indicate funding from 911 surcharge rather than general funds. Robert Millender (director of public safety IT) confirmed the funding source and promised a correction letter by next formal session. Motion to approve and send to new business carried.
  • 5.4 – DPD Video Release Ordinance – Law Department presented a draft ordinance (30-day hold on video release). The ordinance had been coordinated with Prosecutor Kim Worthy and Police Chief Todd Bettison. Motion to receive and file carried.
  • 5.5 – Rescission for 7285 Prairie – Concurred with BSEED recommendation; approved.
  • 5.6–5.8 – Memos on Flooded Basement Act, Child Abduction Broadcast Act, and Senate Bill 492 – LPD requested these be brought back in one week; motion carried.
  • 5.9 – Munoz Real Estate Compliance – BSEED officials reported that Munoz has registered 95% of properties but only 37% are in compliance. He owes approximately $200,000 in tickets. An update was provided on bi-weekly meetings and a target of 18 inspections per week. Chair Romero expressed concern about tenant safety, lack of water accounts, and slow progress. The committee discussed legal options, escrow accounts, and potential litigation. Motion to bring back TBD (to be determined) carried. Councilmember Waters noted the need for HRD to launch an online rental escrow process.
  • New Business 6.1–6.5 – Contracts approved: 6.1 (environmental remediation for Preserve on Ash III, $1M, contractor from Columbus, OH), 6.2 (HIV/STI navigation services, $85K, Detroit), 6.3 (ShotSpotter evaluation extension, ARPA-funded), 6.4 (Rides to Care renewal, $400K increase), 6.5 (conduit lines, $1,500 per pole/year). All sent to formal with recommendation to approve.
  • 6.6 – Dangerous Buildings Findings (Aug 29, 2025) – Received and filed.
  • 6.7–6.8 – Deferrals for 5301 and 5311 East Outer Drive – Vice Chair Benson requested a week’s delay to investigate the proposed use of a defunct SOB (sexually oriented business). Motion to bring back in one week carried.
  • 6.9 – Deferral for 9765 Sanalic – Concurred with department recommendation.
  • 6.10–6.11 – Grants – 6.10: $1,245,790 grant for battery electric buses and charging infrastructure (four buses: two 60-ft articulated, two 40-ft). Expected in service by end of 2025. 6.11: Firearm safety grant application authorization. Both approved.
  • 6.12–6.16 – Encroachments and Vacations – 6.12 (Arab American/Chaldean Council sign), 6.13 (MDOT decertification of streets for Roosevelt Park), 6.15 (vacation of Columbia Street for Olympia Entertainment), 6.16 (alley vacation) approved. 6.14 (Himelhoch building sign for Museum of Illusions) – brought back one week due to resident concerns about illumination and tenant impact.
  • 6.17 – Vape Products Ordinance Questions – Brought back in two weeks.

Key Outcomes

  • Minutes from last session approved.
  • Public comment cut off at 10:05 AM; each speaker given 2 minutes.
  • 5.1 and 5.2 – Emergency demolitions brought back in one week.
  • 5.3 – Approved pending correction letter; sent to new business.
  • 5.4 – DPD video release ordinance received and filed; draft to be presented next week.
  • 5.5 – BSEED rescission concurred.
  • 5.6–5.8 – Memos brought back in one week.
  • 5.9 – Munoz compliance update; motion to bring back TBD; LPD asked to explore punitive options; committee to meet with HRD and BSEED.
  • 6.1–6.5 – Approved and sent to formal.
  • 6.6 – Received and filed.
  • 6.7–6.8 – Brought back one week for further information.
  • 6.9 – Concurred.
  • 6.10–6.11 – Approved.
  • 6.12–6.16 – 6.12, 6.13, 6.15, 6.16 approved; 6.14 brought back one week.
  • 6.17 – Brought back two weeks.
  • Committee recessed at approximately 11:00 AM, with a dangerous buildings hearing scheduled at 1:30 PM.

Meeting Transcript

Madam Chair, you have a quorum present. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Given a quorum, we'll go right into the agenda for today. We have received our minutes from our last session. If there's a motion to approve. Motion. Thank you. The minutes will be approved from our last session. Just want to remind folks today that at 1 30 we do have our dangerous buildings hearings. So if you're here in person or online and you have a hearing today, that will be at 1 30 this afternoon. We can go right into public comment for today. We can begin with the folks that we have here in person. I have here Mr. Cunningham and Tony Camillary. I'll begin with Mr. Cunningham first, followed by Tony. And if you're online, please raise your hand now if you would like to make public comments. I will be cutting off public comments at 10 05. Public comment will be cut off in two minutes. Everyone will have two minutes today for public comments. We will put your time on the screen. And then as soon as we have the screen set up for people to make their comments, we can get started. I appreciate you taking all right. Thank you, Ms. Duncan. Mr. Cunningham, whenever you're ready. All right, Director Brown, is the next matter in. Good morning, everyone. Under the sound of my voice. That number was made so you can remember it. And on Facebook, not enemy. So I want to thank those that do reach out and give me positive words, ask for prayer, etc. Um, even invite me to their church to talk about what I do in the community. Um I try to touch lives. Um a lot of folks are going through a lot, and that token of love, that bus ticket that uh the ice water or in the wintertime bus ticket hand warmers, and this council, everyone present has helped me. Uh, and I I want to thank you for that. I am getting a lot of complaints uh from routes that normally don't get complaints. The Jefferson uh Woodward. Uh and then I'm sitting there waiting sometimes just to see if there's customer coming. I'm just watching and looking at people piling up at the woodwork stop and maybe a 30-minute wait or 40 minute wait. I'm not sure what's going on, but uh there's there's some extra wait time going on. Um we'll have our private meeting with the director. I think tomorrow, and then there's an input meeting for those at home that have something extra to speak about. There's a nightly city council meeting, and if you didn't know, you can contact LPD and uh let them know you want to get four minutes to speak. Um that's at any nightly city council meeting. Um I think there's a few spots left. Um I keep the city in prayer. You keep me in prayer no matter what faith you are. Um, but D DOT has to get better.

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