Like to call to order our public health and safety standing committee for the purposes of our dangerous buildings hearings.

May the clerk please call the roll.

Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero.

Present.

Councilmember Scott Benson.

Councilmember Mary Waters.

Madam Chair, you have a quorum present.

Thank you, Madam Clerk.

Given a quorum, we'll go right into our hearings for today.

For folks that are now joining us, we're gonna first hear from the administration before turning over to LPD before we get started on our hearings for today.

With that, I'll turn it over to the administration to share a little bit about what these hearings are.

This means that you must do the following.

One, provide proof of ownership or interest in the property.

Two, pay all required inspection fees.

Three, secure all openings on your building from trespass and the elements and remove all exterior debris, abandoned vehicles, overgrowth, et cetera.

Four pay or make arrangements regarding any delinquent city taxes.

Five, obtain the necessary permits to bring your building into compliance with all applicable codes.

Six, and submit completed deferral application.

Thank you.

I'll turn it over now to LPD.

Good afternoon, madam chair.

Uh the public should be aware that these are legally required administrative appeals hearings from previous informal hearings with the Department of Building Safety Engineering and Environment.

These are the legally required hearings for all the buildings on today's dangerous buildings list.

In order to demolish them or for owners to oppose the demolition, this is the committee's opportunity as required by law to either approve the demolition or reject it.

To assist the committee in making this determination and to provide due process, representatives of BC are here with files, inspection reports, photos, and other data to assist in conducting these hearings.

Thank you, madam chair.

My name is Dili Portel.

I'm assistant chief at the property maintenance uh building and safety department.

All good.

You can share, you can just press it once.

You should be good now.

Thank you.

All right, everyone.

Thank you for the introduction and um really setting the scene for what we're gonna be doing here today.

We have over 50 properties on our list.

Usually we have anywhere from 20 to 40 people in person or online who are here to uh conduct a hearing.

If you are here um in person or online, I'm gonna ask everyone, given the amount of people that we have, that we try to keep this uh conversation as succinct as possible.

The questions will be the same.

Are you looking to save your property?

Are you looking to demo what are the plans to do so?

Um, if you have been here more than once, if we if you are here a second or a third time and I have not seen um a lot of change or investments in the property, I am most likely not going to be able to support an extension.

Um, we really really want to make sure that we are addressing the dangerous buildings in our city.

Um, and if your property still is um open to the elements uh falling apart and has not deen we have not seen any kind of improvements, I most likely not will not be able to give you an extension.

Um, I share that because for the most part we do.

We want to work with you.

If you want to save your property, if you have a plan, um, you can definitely um assume that we'll be able to help you as well.

But with that, we're going to begin our hearings with the folks that we have here in person before we turn it over to the folks that we have online.

Are you both together for the hearing?

All right, I'm gonna invite uh both of you to take a seat up here, make sure that the microphone is turned on.

There's a button at the bottom of the mic.

Once it turns green, it is on.

And then once it's on, you can just leave it as so.

And once you are settled, I'm going to ask that you please share your names and which properties you're here to discuss.

Okay, I think I lost a little bit of that end part, but uh your name and which property you you're here to discuss.

Okay, um, my name is George Mujanis, and the uh property is uh 2952 CAS.

2952 Cast.

This is the sixth property under the ninth block.

This property is being ordered demolished.

We're gonna let B seed pull uh the pictures and the reports to see where we are in the process.

Uh George, while they pull up an information, are you looking to keep or demolish your property?

Uh keep.

Okay, sounds good.

We're gonna turn it over to B seed first.

They're gonna let us know what are the issues that they want to get addressed before I turn it over to you with any insights that you have to address those concerns from B seed.

BC, whenever you're ready.

So you can have the C Nock here.

Thank you, uh Madam Chair.

Uh this Par City Council hearing inspects on we found the one story big commercial building.

We're gonna open to the SPS and to the element at the missing roof.

The roof has been missing for a while.

Uh the yard is not maintained with the overgrowth at the area, and that's what we have front of this committee.

Uh yeah.

Thank you, Mr.

Patel.

So the biggest issue from the first glance, it looks like a solid structure.

You're saying that above we're missing the roof, and there's overgrowth around the building.

That's gonna okay.

Understood.

Thank you.

If the clerk can please note even joined by member water.

Thank you.

Uh George, would you happen to have a plan to repair your roof and take care of the over roof around the property?

Uh yes, as a matter of fact, those are old pictures.

Um the roof we had me just say this that uh um a preliminary plan uh review was on April 17th, 2024.

Some of the comments included from Mr.

Foster was uh community projects that have utilized spaces without roof for unique purposes.

The place had been um arsoned.

I went through painstaking a lot of money to have that roof done properly and taken out.

Um from uh from Charles Reese spoke of using the facade to have walls to serve food from food trucks.

Just pointing out there was never any talk of a roof, and then we'll even go over to how it is stated in the ordinance.

It says windows or doors.

I'm sure that the legal department would have put a roof there so if they saw it so.

Um, in terms of a dangerous building on October 15th, I will I worked with the city and the city inspector, uh City Inspector Duplece.

He um once I took down uh we had a lot of uh posters up there of uh of uh President Trump and in an act with a uh with uh uh doesn't matter.

I took all those down, and then at that point I found a sticker.

I contacted the inspector, Inspector DuPlease, and he told me of the possibility of a dangerous building.

I went and painstakingly paid for a structural engineer and an architect and a builder, and they did everything that was necessitated to make it a non-dangerous building.

Only uh few months later, and that was for temporary, in February 25.

I went and asked the bank for a loan to do um a large plans, and um, and the bank was okay with it.

In May, I got a uh letter stating that they were going to have a hearing because I never did anything on the uh, and these are me giving all the pictures to the inspector duplicate.

I got a notice stating that on they were giving me a hearing for the 1015, which I had already done and had it done by 24, 1124 1127 24.

I even have pictures of my communications with the city who said everything was fine.

Okay, George, sorry.

Um all good.

Thank you for giving me the insights.

Um, so be I the ordinance that states any openings, the roof missing would be an opening that I think for the city would be a dangerous building.

So for for me, for our purposes today, um, it sounds like you are on track for a plan to make to make repairs to to the property.

Do you have a timeline of when you think you have a roof uh replaced for this property?

Or if it can be targeted.

The ordinance says windows in indoors.

Just want to point that out.

If it had said roofs, I'm sure the legal department would have put in roofs because only when it's speaking with uh B seed, and I spoke with a lot of people over there, we're coming up with good ideas.

There are buildings in Detroit that do not have roofs.

We can go on to grass it.

That is a bone of contention because even when I go through what I'm what I how I'm how I'm wrong when I go through all the ordinance steps, I'm wrong, including one of the things I'm being here for, is because if your building is a bad uh is abandoned for 18 months, you have to have a for sale for lease.

Okay.

There is a big sign that says for sale for lease.

That I'm like, if they're wrong on that, that means they never come out to my building.

So the ordinance to state openings of of the property.

Again, a a massive roof missing would be an opening.

Today, all I need is a commitment for me to tarp the roof to address the roof.

We the whole roof is gone.

I the only the only time I can do it is we have you you are correct.

We have a lot of properties that have open roofs that need to be replaced.

Um the city's also going through and and addressing those properties.

For today, George, I I I cannot agree to demolition if we're not going to be able to address the missing roof.

The the roof needs to be tarped.

It needs to because what's going to happen is rain, snow, it gets more uh hurt, and it then it becomes dangerous, gets even more open, becomes more vacant.

Um unfortunately we we we cannot let a property not get addressed here, and right now the roof being missing is the issue.

Can it be tarped?

I no, it you can't tarp a uh uh building of six thousand square feet.

I had and was addressing that.

We were rebuilding the the whole place, except during this the inspector when I tried to say we've taken care of that.

Even at the hearing, they wouldn't let me put in any type of uh of evidence.

Had the inspector just seen that I was fine and I and asked me what are you doing, I said I I have a bank load in place, but once they gave the bank, which I own that bank a hundred thousand dollars, they sent the bank a notice saying it was a dangerous building.

All money that was being given for construction stopped.

And that is the fault of the inspecti of of that inspector.

Had he just listened and asked me some basic questions, all right, George.

We would be here and the place would be under construction.

And I would like to wrap this in about two minutes because we have more people online.

I have plans for the reconstruction.

That's not how that building looks today.

This is just to make sure that we have one conversation here.

Um to our vice chair.

All right, thank you.

Um I heard that there was conversations with the bank.

Are you still do you still have plans to put a roof on that in the future and to rehab this yes, yes or no?

Yes, yes.

Okay.

Um, and when do you plan to have those conversations with the bank again?

Once the uh city says they're not gonna tear down the building.

So I will have to assist the bank tomorrow if we if we get in a okay motion to return jurisdiction to B seed for continued conversations about investment in this property.

Are there any objections?

Hearing none, this would be sent back to B seed.

George, this will give you the time that you need to be able to do your work.

Um I just needed to hear that yes, you're gonna do that.

Yes, I'm gonna rehab the problem.

Wonderful.

With that, um, hearing no other questions, this was sent back to B seed.

Uh, do you have any other questions for us, George?

Um I I I do not.

Okay, sounds good.

Well, thank you.

You're all set for today.

This property um is going to be sent back to BC so that you're able to continue to have these conversations.

B seed, if if we can um not get in the way of him receiving a loan, that would help him make repairs to the property.

Not sure what we have to do.

Um if we have to uh at least for now remove him from the dangerous list, but if that's gonna prevent him from getting a loan, we need to not make it more difficult for for that to happen.

Madam Chad, uh thank you.

Uh so we can uh yeah, definitely we can allow that time.

Uh and I think we can, if necessary, we can bring it back to November 17.

Okay.

So what uh and I and that's plenty of time for them to gear it up and establish the at least roof per me.

Uh so that way we know that the project is moving on right directly.

Okay.

Um sounds good.

I believe it needs to be some offline conversations to make sure that we're on the same page on what George needs to get the loan so he's able to make the repairs.

So we can do that.

Um right, thank you, BC.

Thank you, George.

I will now move us on to the next um person.

Ma'am, are you here for a dangerous building hearing?

Some folks just walked in today.

Hello.

Are you here for a hearing today?

Okay, is it three of you or just one?

Okay, ma'am, if you want to come forward and take the seats that were um just used.

And then if you wouldn't mind, once you're ready, let us know your name and which address you're here to discuss.

Oh, okay.

Um Ms.

Patterson, I'm here to discuss 4713.

4713.

Yes.

This is the eighth property under the tenth block, ma'am.

Um, meaning that there have um the issues of making this property dangerous have been addressed.

I'm gonna ask BC if you have any notes for this property.

Thank you, madam chair.

Yes, uh this property has entire roof has the tarp over.

Uh after going through the two or three hearings, and we really appreciate that, but we we would like to see that the this property uh get the new roof.

Uh so that way it won't be blighted in neighborhood.

Okay, understood.

Ma'am, thank you for doing what you could.

Do you have any plans to replace the roof anytime soon?

Uh, yes, I do.

Okay.

Yeah, I do.

Um did they got my pictures that I had sent.

Yes.

Okay.

Okay.

Yes, I do have plans um for the roof.

That's the first thing that we um have on our agenda to take care of.

Okay, understood.

Uh, we'll please continue to tarp and make sure all the openings are closed.

Um, and good luck with that next phase of repairs.

Um, do you have any other questions or do you have any questions for us?

No, I don't have any questions.

Um I do I do have a concern.

Um, it was it was told to us by a few of the neighbors that they had this house as um fire house project, and that they had they were over there with the fire truck and the water holes and everything, and they was had it, you know, the water and so when I went in the house, I noticed that it seemed like there was some more damage.

Now I didn't know that.

So I recently found this out.

So it has been added more added damage than what it was in the beginning.

So that's my concern.

I needed to address that today while I was in court.

So it could be down for the record.

Okay, understood.

Okay, thank you.

Well, I'm it's more added repairs now since the city or whoever the fire department went in with the water holes and whatnot for a training session.

So that's adding more damage to the roof to the inside of the house.

That's what I was saying when I went in the kitchen.

Actually, from the last time I was here, I had said then I believe I didn't I couldn't understand why it was so much more damage to the kitchen than before when we went in there to try to fix it.

So now I found out that they were using the house for a firehouse project to try for trainer trainees.

Okay, I've never heard of our fire departments practicing on property.

Um, this is private property, it's not city property at all.

That doesn't make sense to me.

Yes, that that's that's what I'm saying.

Do you know that they said because it was on the dangerous buildings listing as to be demolished to be demoed?

That's the reason why they were using it.

Okay, so it makes sense.

Do you have the date of when this was?

Did you know?

No, I plan on.

I plan on um this the neighbors is I've I think one of them did get a picture, but I don't have anything right now.

They they're getting it.

Okay, so I I will have it.

Okay, I think it'll be best for you to also if you're not going to be um occupying the property is to register it as a vacant property.

Um, that way there is some indication that it is properly owned that you are going to make repairs that you still want the property.

Um, but we're gonna look into the the fire department utilizing this property to practice.

Oh, I'm sorry.

No go right.

I did get contacted by the land bank, Miss Bro Angela Brown, who stated that she was the um she was the attorney of no, I'm sorry, April Flemings.

She was the compliance representative.

So she contacted me about the house.

Uh also she had told me that there was a September 15th meeting court here, although I did know that because the last time I was here, it was a conversation back and forth about the land bank, and you all didn't know that it was uh signed to the land bank, so it was confusion there, which I understand that you all can't give me any type of legal advice pertaining to that, and it's fine, but just so that it'll be on the record okay as well.

All right, ma'am.

Thank you.

Um yeah, these are very curious why the fire department did that.

I I understand you're still working with the land bank.

Um, and you will be working on repairing the roof.

Yes.

Reach out to us if you learn anything new um regarding the fire departments.

Um, because I am curious to see why they did that and how that happens.

Okay, I appreciate you all.

All right.

Well, thank you.

Thank you for coming down.

Uh, is there a motion to concur with withdrawing 4713 crane?

Motion hearing no objections, we agree to withdraw 4713 crane from the demolition list.

Thank you, ma'am.

Okay.

I believe that's everybody that we have here in person.

So now we're gonna turn it over to the folks that we have online.

Um, Miss Duncan, how many hands do we have raised and who is our first caller?

Madam Chair, there are currently 15 hands and counting, raise the first thing Siffan.

Shafon, you are being moved over as a panelist.

Please let us know your name and oh, excuse me.

Please let us know which property you're calling us about.

Yes, uh 3836 Fisher Building ID 101.

3836 Fisher.

This is the first property under the 11th block.

This property is being ordered demolished.

We're going to turn it over to BC to let us know what they need uh addressed in order to remove it from a dangerous building list.

Uh, but wondering, are you looking to keep or demolish this property on Fisher?

Uh so before we go into that, I have purchased it from the Wayne County auction, and because I couldn't afford to demo it on my own, I let it go into foreclosure.

And so when I called you guys, I spoke to the representative the other day, she said my name is still on the deed.

So I had assumed that once it went to foreclosure, my name would be off the deed.

So I don't know how that would work.

No, ma'am, it's still your it's still your responsibility, unfortunately, and it's still your your um I believe it's still on you to have to address those problems.

Um I are you so then are you looking to keep or no longer keep this property?

Okay, so that's the part so I still own it, although it went into foreclosure.

Yes, ma'am.

This I it's foreclosed, but you no longer I don't believe that if it's in foreclosure, you no longer own it.

It's been foreclosed, but I don't think that you get to just walk away.

Um I I'm gonna assume there's there's something to be done.

I'm not sure.

I'm not a lawyer and I'm not a real estate agent, so I don't really know um really what I'm talking about here.

Um, but I do not believe it's it's as easy as no longer um owning the home and then walking away.

Um that's the problem that I have is that I have no clarity.

Okay.

I mean, and so that's the that's actually the problem right there that everyone who I speak to don't know, I don't know what to do.

I am um in Houston, Texas, and so there's no way for me to kind of just fly there and not know where I'm going.

Understood.

Um, wondering if anyone from LPD, do you have any idea how any insights to this to this process?

Uh madam chair, I'm uh I regrettably do not at this time.

However, we can um look into this matter.

All right, thank you.

And I don't see anybody here from the law departments.

Yeah, I've been making so many phone calls, and I'm just getting a run around.

And it's very, very frustrating, especially knowing that you know I already did what I could as far as like okay, I can't afford to keep it up.

Now I wanted to get it demoed.

Um I couldn't afford to keep doing it on my own.

It was costing me 30,000, so I let it go.

Okay.

Um, I just want to know what you know, what's the next process?

It wasn't foreclosure, it'll still be.

Um, I think Mr.

Patel, for our purposes here today, it does not seem like there is a owner um with the responsibility right now to talk about this if it's been on foreclosure.

Um, if it's going into foreclosure.

So it looks like it still needs to be demoed.

Do we still move forward with demolition, even if it's an in in the pipeline to to be foreclosed?

Yeah, madam chat.

Yeah, we do have the um this property on LLC name, uh C Fon House, real estate and company LLC.

Yes.

Uh and also the Wayne County, also the the interesting part in the regardless whether it's going for closure or not, but still the condition of properties there.

And we would recommend for the demolition order.

Okay.

Okay, that that's absolutely fine on my behalf.

So where do I go from here?

I mean, do I get a lawyer involved or I think that's what's best, ma'am?

Because I I really don't know either.

Um if if you're still the owner, if it's going into foreclosure, I'm going to assume that there's still some type of something to pay a fee or something, or I'm not exactly sure.

Um what we can do here is move forward with demolition with the recommendation to demolish.

If you're the current owner not looking to keep and you're looking to demolish, that means that we should demolish this property.

Um, but I think next step is to definitely get a lawyer um to let them know that this is foreclosed, but it's still under your name, um, and to see how how you can clear clear your name from from this property.

Right.

And then when you do demo it, what happens after that?

Let's just say if the lawyer says, Well, you can keep it now.

What's the next steps?

That's what I don't know what to tell you, ma'am.

That's where I'm gonna I'm gonna ask that you talk to a lawyer on that because I'm not exactly sure, and I don't want to give you wrong information.

Um, member waters.

Uh thank you.

Um, I just want to know um which um financial institution is on the house.

I mean, if you have a financial institution, no, I don't know in property tax foreclosure or is it in um bank foreclosure?

So I purchased it from Wayne County with cash, and then I just let it go with Wayne County when I was supposed to pay the taxes in February.

Yeah, I didn't I didn't pay it because I figured I'll just let it go.

So I don't know what you were not you were not renting out the property.

No, it's a church, it's an abandoned church.

So it's don't so you don't mind if it's if if it's demolished.

That that's actually what I have wanted, but because I was you know, I was doing it on my own, it would cost me 30,000.

So I have one demolished so that I can build it back up.

Um, but I didn't have the funds at the time.

Okay.

Well, let me just say this to you then.

If um if you demolish it on your own, it's probably not gonna cost you as much.

If the city demolishes it, it's gonna cost you a lot more.

And as soon as they demolish it, they're gonna slap a lien on the property.

And in order for you to be able to recoup your property, you're gonna have to pay the amount of money that the city um pay in order to uh get it demolished.

So I'm glad you told me that.

So this is we have to get a lawyer involved because I don't even I don't want no liens on my business, knowing that I try to do the right thing.

I just don't know how your laws work.

Okay, I not I don't think it's gonna be on your business.

It's it's it's gonna be on that property that they demolished.

Right.

The thing is that ma'am, I just want clear information on I don't care about the property.

That's the problem, and that's my issue with this, ma'am.

You said that you live in Houston, Texas, correct?

Correct.

Do you have any connection to the city of Detroit?

No.

Okay, only I I'm gonna say that I'm very much over this conversation.

The fact that you're not paying taxes, the fact that you don't really care about this property in the city that I truly love and care.

I'm gonna go ahead and move this to demolition and um ask that you get a lawyer and figure this out on your own.

I'm not a lawyer, I don't know, but I'm not happy with people not paying their taxes and not taking care of their property.

Um, so I but that was the right I don't think that's the right thing to do, ma'am.

Is is to go buy property from other places to conduct business and then not pay taxes and not take care of your property.

So I'm not okay with that.

Um, but it sounds like you do have a plan to demolish this property and figure it out with uh with the lawyer.

Um I have no other questions.

There was a recommendation to demolish.

Um are there is there a motion to concur?

I'm not ready to make the motion yet myself.

Okay, well, she did say she wants to demolish the property.

Well, you can wait for Member Benson to come back and make that motion.

I wasn't finished asking her questions, so I'm still kind of okay.

But member waters, we're taking time up from we have 10 other people online.

Okay, I mean you can start move who might who might okay.

Well, then the owner, the property for Fisher's gonna have to wait until Member Benson comes back for there to be a motion.

Okay, seeing no motions here for this property, ma'am.

I'm gonna ask that you stay online if there are any other questions from member Benson.

Um, but I I need a motion to concur with the recommendation for demolition, and I'm not exactly happy with having this conversation right now.

Uh we have a lot more people that are waiting online to have those are those are your feelings, those are feeling all right, ma'am.

I'm gonna go ahead and ask for the next caller.

The next caller is Camila El Shabazz.

Camila, I'm gonna ask that you let us know which property you're calling us about.

Um, I am calling for 490 South Martindale in Detroit 490 South South Martindale.

Yes, this is the first property under the 13th block.

This is also being ordered demolished.

Um, would you like to uh keep or demolish the property?

I would like to keep it, and I'm not sure why I'm here because when I have when I was at the other hearing, I got a dismissal and I have the proof of letters.

I have the proof of that because I did everything that they told me to do.

And I I got my dismissal letter from the dangerous building.

I have it with me.

But then I got this.

Okay.

Let's hear from B seed as to why they still have their property on the dangerous buildings list and what you have to do to address the concerns.

B seed thank you, madam chair.

Uh for this year, we inspected this property on August 26th, 2025.

We pound to start a brick building.

The collapsing roof is open.

The yard is not maintained.

And that's what uh we are front of this committee.

Thank you.

Uh so uh Camilla just mentioned that she got a um dismissed uh from the last hearing that she had.

Um, do you have any insights to that or why is this before us if this if she just had a conversation about this property?

Um well this will probably be the the case.

So Camilla, I'm looking at the issues that BCD is addressing.

There are openings, have these been addressed.

Uh Camilla, if you're speaking, we cannot hear you.

Excuse me.

I was asking you, uh B seed is is showing us that there are openings to the property.

Have you addressed these issues?

Yes, I have.

Okay.

Um, and then when was the last time that you uh secured the property and took care of the overgrowth?

Well, you know what?

As a matter of fact, I I checked the property um yesterday before um I came here today to make sure everything was um secured.

The tarp is up, the tarp is still the roof is still tarped.

Um the boards are still on the window.

Okay, and the tarp is is secure and new, or is it still rips like the ones that we're seeing here in this?

No, no, it's new.

Okay.

Um I had it um I had it retarped.

Um, I want to say like the end of August.

Okay, understood.

Um, so and ma'am, are you looking to keep the property?

What are your plans for the property?

Um, I'm in the process of selling it.

I have a um offer.

I'm waiting on my um, I mean, I have a purchase agreement.

I'm waiting on the closing date.

Okay, understood.

Um, are there any other questions for this property?

If not, I do feel comfortable giving them until our next hearing is going to be August, excuse me, October 20th.

Um so feel comfortable giving more time unless there are any questions for this property.

Hearing on is there a motion to send four nine zero zero South Martindale back to B seed until October 20th?

Motion hearing no objections, ma'am.

This property will be sent back to B seed.

If you can please, we're gonna put a picture on the the screen.

Uh, what we're gonna ask is everyone that does receive more time and extension of time to address the issues of their properties.

Um, you will need to take pictures of every side of your property, fronts and sides.

So four pictures uh that show the property, uh any issues addressed, overgrowth maintains, and email those pictures to B-seed.

Uh, the email that you you'll want is on the screen right now.

If you're listening in, take a picture, write it down.

But this is the email that you're going to need to take to send over the pictures of your property once you have addressed any of the issues.

Are you able to do that, ma'am?

Send new pictures to to BC.

I am, yes, I am.

Okay, wonderful.

So, with that, uh, this has been sent back to B seed.

Do you have any other questions for us, Camilla?

No, ma'am.

All right.

Well, I hope you have a blessed day.

I'm going to go back.

Um Vice Chair, we were just having a discussion for 3836 Fisher.

This building is being ordered, demolished.

The caller called in, letting us know the property has gone into foreclosure.

She's looking to demolish it.

Um, but doesn't really know where to go after the case.

Um, she does not live in the city, she's in Houston.

Um, taxes haven't been paid, and she's really just trying to to to rid of the property.

Um, I say we move forward with the order of demolition um since we all agree, but member waters was not able to provide us the the motion, so wondering if you can provide the motion to order demolish or if you have any questions for this property.

Are there any objections?

Hearing none 3836 Fisher will be ordered demolished, and then ma'am.

Um, this property will be demolished.

We we highly recommend a lawyer to answer the questions um that we don't have answers to.

Apologize.

Um, but with that, who is our next caller, Ms.

Duncan?

The next caller is John Cribbrill here for 15795 Clover Lawn.

John, you are being made into a panelist for 15795 Clover Lawn.

Yes, Madam Chair.

Okay, thank you.

John, let us know when you've joined us.

You have been made a panelist, you'll just have to unmute yourself.

John, if you're speaking, we cannot hear you.

You just have to unmute yourself.

And if we don't hear from you shortly, I'm gonna have to add you to the bottom of the queue.

As appears he's rejoining, madam chair.

Okay, thank you.

While we wait for John to join us, who is our next caller?

iPhone two, followed by iPhone 201.

iPhone 2 and iPhone 201.

You are on deck, so we're gonna call on you after we hear from John.

John, can you hear us?

I think John, you might have some technical difficulties.

We cannot hear you.

We are going to add you to the bottom of the queue, unfortunately, and come back to you before we wrap up.

Um, this is a good note for anyone listening in.

Please make sure you're able to join us um when we call your name.

Are you gonna be added to the bottom of the queue?

Um, we will now hear from iPhone 2.

Can you hear us?

Yes, I can.

Wonderful.

What's your name?

Uh TR Jackson.

Hello, which property are you calling us about?

1958 Watham, W-A-L-T-H-A-N.

1958 Waltham.

Yes.

This property has been withdrawn, meaning it's no longer dangerous.

Um, BC, any notes for this property?

Uh thank you, madam chat.

No, we do not have any notes.

Okay.

Wonderful.

So this is going to be removed from a dangerous buildings list if there's a motion to do so.

Is there the motion to concur?

There's a motion to concur.

So this is no longer on the dangerous buildings list, ma'am.

Please continue to maintain your property.

Do you have any questions for us?

No.

Okay, wonderful.

Well, you have a good rest of your day.

You as well.

We will now hear from iPhone 201.

IPhone 201.

If you can hear us, you're next.

You're going to be followed by Siegel Clore.

Siegel.

Okay, hello.

Thank you.

iPhone 201.

Yes, ma'am.

What is your name?

Jermaine Evans.

Hello, Jermaine.

Which property are you calling us about?

Uh 2739 Pasadena.

Pasadena.

2739?

Yes, ma'am.

This is the ninth property under the 13th block.

This is being ordered, demolished.

Uh Jermaine, are you looking to keep or demolish the property?

I'll keep it.

Okay, we're gonna wait to hear from BC what the issues are that need to be addressed.

That's a nice property.

Uh B seed thank you, madam chair.

Uh, this property was inspected on this uh September 7, 2025.

Uh we pound to store the big two family dwelling.

We're gonna open two element at the upper windows.

Uh yeah, I'd not maintain overgrowth debris, uh no recon property registers and pound, and that's what we are printing this committee.

All right, thank you.

Um Jeremy, do you have any plans to address the overgrowth and the openings on the windows there?

Yeah, so it just so happened that my um landscaper was there sun.

No, Sunday, I think it's Saturday, and that's when I found out that uh all this was the way it was because all the windows once were there, so we've since boarded up everything.

He cut the lawn, and it looks totally different than what you see in these pictures.

Okay.

Are you looking to sell, move into the property?

What are your plans for the property?

Uh we plan to continue rehab, but we just paused on it due to another um uh project that we had going, but we have the windows already ordered.

We have them in stock.

We just didn't put them in there because we didn't want to get them stolen again.

Understood.

Okay.

Uh that sounds like a plan to me.

Are there any other questions for 2739 Pasadena?

Hearing none, is there a motion to send this property back to BCED?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, this property will be sent back to BC Germain, please.

Um, did you write down the email that we put on the screen?

Uh no, I did not.

We'll put it on the screen one more time.

And what we're gonna ask for you is to please take pictures of all four sides of your property and email it to this account right here.

Okay.

So if you can screenshot that, write it down.

Uh-huh.

Anyone else listening in, please also screenshot or jot this account down.

This will be the email you send those four pictures to, okay?

Okay, thank you.

Okay, no problem.

Thank you.

And good luck with continuing to maintain your properties.

Okay.

I will now ask for Siegel, followed by caller 658.

658.

Sigel, Seagal, please uh correct my pronunciation of your name, but can you hear us?

I can hear you as Siegel.

Siegel, which property are you calling us about?

70 72 30 Rosemont.

Rosemont.

72 30 Rosemont.

This is the fourth property under the 14th block.

Rosemont.

This is being ordered demolished.

Uh Siegel, are you looking to keep or uh demolish your property?

Keep.

Keep.

Okay.

Uh, we're gonna hear from BC.

What needs to be addressed in order for us to remove this from the dangerous buildings list.

Thank you, madam chair.

Uh, this property was inspected on August 14th, 2025 for this hearing.

Uh we pound the one story big dwelling we can open to trespass print and side door and windows.

Uh interior is pile damaged.

Um the clean out from inside the some work being done there.

Uh but no progress being noted.

Recommend for uh demolish.

Thank you, BC.

See go there are openings to the uh to the windows and debris.

Um are you able to address these issues?

Yes, they've already been addressed.

So the um the windows are completely boarded, and the side door is boarded.

All openings have been closed.

Okay, we we we have had some problems with uh it's kind of like a corner house on the alley, and we have some trespassers that are coming in and out, but um, we feel like we got it secured enough to keep them out of there.

So I I can definitely uh send photos in.

Okay, sounds good.

Uh, what are your plans for this property?

Uh renovated.

Um, it was a fire at the property.

It was previously a rental property.

Um, and we do have insurance funds to uh get the property renovated.

We just have to finalize estimates and and then go from there.

Okay, thank you.

So the city also has some some money in escrow, so we can't get that until we get the property uh fixed up.

Understood, Mr.

Patel.

Uh thank you, madam chat.

Uh by looking at the system, I did not see any permit has been established.

We would like to see that the pie permit uh can be established.

So that way we know that the day city pet is moving right direct.

Okay.

You said what what hasn't been established?

Any permitting for permit?

Oh yes.

So if you wouldn't mind, uh you said you can send the pictures over, thank you.

If you have any other permits, um uh contracts with the we haven't put we haven't pulled our permit yet because we haven't selected the kind, you know, we're still trying to get estimates, so it's gonna be 30 days before we finalize you know who we're using to do the work.

So I suggest you send over the four pictures of the property, and as soon as you're able to show proof of permits or contract to BC to that same email, letting them know that you are making those repairs, that can also help you make sure that uh this property is removed from the dangerous buildings list and allow you time to make those repairs.

Okay.

Uh just a question how much time are we being granted, you know, from the time of this hearing to get everything done?

So our next hearing is going to be October 20th.

Not to say that everything needs to be done by then, but your your your pictures of the property and what it currently looks like needs to be sent in by then.

Um, and then again, any other kind of progress that you can show and share with with the departments.

Uh, once you send that over, they will um notes the progress that you're making, and you shouldn't find yourself backed um at these hearings.

Okay, sound good.

Okay, so the email is on the screen.

Did you get it?

Yes.

Greets.

Is there a motion to send Rosemont back to B seed?

Motion.

Here, no objection.

7230 Rosemont will be sent back to B seed.

Good luck, Siegel.

Okay, thank you.

Who do we have next?

Next, we have caller 658, followed by Hill Harper.

658, you are uh you are next.

Which property are you calling us about?

Hello.

Hello.

Uh, if you wouldn't mind sharing your name with us.

Hello, my name is Denise Sutton.

Hi, Denise.

Which property are you calling us about?

16915 Park Side Street.

Which street?

Park side.

Park side, yeah.

16915 park side.

Yes.

All right, Denise.

This property has been withdrawn from the dangerous buildings list.

Um, Mr.

Patel, anything, any notes for this property?

Uh thank you, madam chair.

Uh yeah, this property does have the permit.

So um the yeah, we would like to see that that work being complete, and uh I think the attic window is open that need to close.

Okay.

So Denise, thank you for pulling the permits to make the repairs.

Um, as Mr.

Patel just mentioned, there might be an opening on one of your windows still.

Uh, please address that.

It really is just better for you uh so that the property doesn't continue to get damaged.

Um, but as of today, this property has been removed from demolition list.

If there's a motion to concur, motion hearing no objections, one six nine one five park side has been withdrawn from the demolition list.

Denise, you have any questions for us.

I think in all four sides of the home to show that IDN board up that window.

Perfect.

Thank you.

We appreciate it.

Um, anything else?

No, that's it.

All right.

Well, thank you.

Have a blessed day.

We will now hear from Hill Harper, followed by Denise Davis, followed by Denise Davis.

Hill Harper, can you hear us?

I can hear you.

Wonderful.

Which property are you calling us about?

3975 Cass Avenue.

Nine seven.

All right.

This property is being ordered demolished.

Uh Hill, what are your plans for the property?

You're keeping are you looking to keep or demolish?

Pete.

Yes.

We're gonna hear from B seed um the needs that need to be addressed, but assuming that you already know these, are you have do you have plans to address the issues?

Yes, uh, yes, we do.

I had a one of the country's best architects come in who had designed the National Center for Civil Rights and Human Rights uh and Emancipation Park as well.

He has sent a letter uh that I could actually read if we want to put it into record.

But this is a major development because we have to preserve these historic buildings, and then we have the parking lot that occupies the entire city block, and then we're gonna have to do a master architectural plan for that entire block.

And ultimately, you know, obviously this is this will be a 50 to 75 million dollar project over time, but it's gonna it just takes a lot of time.

So I fenced the property in so that no one could have access or be near it, as you can see, the fencing.

Um I'm happy to cover that fencing and make it black if that helps.

But point is is that to get the master plan done by you know by any architect, but this but this is a nationally renowned architect, it's just takes time and it's not a fast process.

Sure, understood.

Um to BC'd, what are the issues that need to be addressed in the meantime?

Um thank you, madam chair.

The we had inspected this property on September 11.

Uh 2025.

We found the two-story commercial building.

We're gonna open two elements at the left side windows and uh the yard is not maintained with the solid debris on the left side property uh not maintained.

Uh that's what we are front of this committee.

Thank you, Mr.

Patel.

Um, Mr.

Harper, would you be able to address the current openings and the debris around the property?

Sure, I believe they've been addressed, but I'll I'll certainly check back in to make sure.

I currently have a whole team working on site doing interior demolition, in other words, removing all of the debris and things inside the structures and uh their you know dumpsters and all of that is is going on right now.

And so uh I'll I'll make sure that they are addressing any openings and uh cutting back any any lawn work that needs to be done, etc.

Okay.

And were you able to jot down the email address needed to send over images once the overgrowth of debris and the openings are secured?

Sure.

But I would like uh just you know, just for the record, uh uh to share this that uh from Edwin Harris, the architect.

He says, I'm writing on behalf of evoque studios architecture to advocate for the preservation of the historic buildings 3975-3977 cast.

These structures have true architecture architectural distinction and they are irreplaceable assets to hold tremendous cultural and economic value for the city of Detroit.

The Queen Anne style character of 3975 Cash represents the craftsmanship and identity, the distinguished Detroit's historic neighborhoods.

He goes on to basically say his master, he's working on a master plan now.

Evoke is pleased to submit uh uh uh for professional services, uh, a fee.

You know, obviously I'm at I'm paying them, so it's fee professional services, and then uh, and then the pre-design study will allow us to obtain a better understanding of all the major issues with the existing buildings into an and bringing them into a new development, combining modern architecture with the preservation.

Preserving them is more than a nostalgic gesture, it is a strategic choice that strengthens the and develop early concepts into a new addition for an order of magnitude.

This is a very large project, so the master plan will take up to two to three months just to draw up and then have different iterations to get approval.

Um pre-design study uh uh will be used as a fundraising tool.

Um, because my nonprofit controls these.

It's not this isn't a for-profit venture.

This is my nonprofit.

Okay, member waters.

Uh thank you, madam chair.

So, Mr.

Harper, yes.

And you know, I'm excited about uh about what you're doing, just as I am excited about the the other property that you own over in Boston Edison.

But in order to get uh past this process right here, we just need the debris removed uh and the windows um secured, you know, board up the windows and so forth.

And then I think we'll have to have a happy B seed so that I don't have to say, well, you know, I'm not gonna let you tear this property down.

Because I I am so thrilled that that you're doing um this work.

And when you send the pictures in after debris and so forth is removed, um, please um copy me as well, council member Waters at Detroit Mi.gov so that we can remain in the loop uh on this project.

I'm excited that you're doing this project, and thank you.

Thank you, Councilmember.

And just so folks know, this was the former home of the Arts Center Music School, and it's the it was the music school that many people attribute the success of Motown records to because they were training young kids perfect pitch and music, and it's also the building where Houdini was embalmed.

So those folks who like that bit of history.

So we we need to keep these buildings, celebrate them, and build some new structures around them so we can have some great development on the cast corridor.

All right, all right.

Well, thank you, Mr.

Harper.

There it does seem to be a motion to send this property back to B seed.

That's a motion.

Hearing no objections, not 3975 casts will be sent back to B seed.

Um, and good luck, Doc.

Uh, we hope that you're able to repair this property.

Uh thank you so much for your purpose.

Repair people, right?

In the show.

Yeah.

Yes.

All right.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Appreciate you.

All right.

Well, thank you.

We will now hear from uh Denise Davis, followed by followed by Lolita Lauderdale.

Followed by Lolita Denise, can you hear us?

Yes.

Which property are you calling us about?

3027 Calac Boulevard.

3027 Cadillac.

This is the fifth property under the ninth block.

Um, this is being withdrawn.

Uh, so you have addressed the issues from B seed, unless there's any other notes, BC for this property.

Um, I'm not understanding why I was here because the last hearing, um, the judge couldn't even figure out why they hit me here.

I mean, we're improving the property.

We redid the roof, we redid the porch.

Um, the landscape just left Saturday doing um the lawn.

Um, I do notice a lot of kids be around, and I try to, you know, follow them to make sure they're not going to the house.

There's uh every time we see an opening, we close it.

So if you see an open, let me know because we didn't see any.

All right, thank you, Miss Davis.

Let's see.

B seed, what issues uh did you see?

Um, because this was in in your department, it's being withdrawn.

Um, what issues did you see originally?

Right now, currently we found the property vacant secure.

Uh also, I think the next door property uh same owner is uh this property, and uh only we saw that the property is not registered as a vacant property.

That's what we like to see.

Okay, but other than that, the property is fine.

When we inspected last time, yes, we are good.

All right, well, Miss Davis, I I too don't know um why you were brought here, but it sounds like you are doing what you have to do to maintain your property safe.

Thank you.

Um, this is going to be withdrawn.

You shouldn't see yourself back here again.

Um, especially if you if you continue to maintain your property, okay?

Thank you.

Is there a motion to concur?

Motion hearing no objections.

We agree to withdraw 30 27 Cadillac from the demolition list.

We will now hear from Lolita.

Have a good day, Miss Davis.

You too.

Bye bye.

Lolita, followed by followed by Tiffany.

Lolita, can you hear us?

Hi, I can hear you.

Which property are you calling us about?

3753 web.

3753 web.

Yes.

This is the 10th property under the 15th block.

This has also been withdrawn.

Thank you, Lolita, for addressing the issues.

B seed, are there any other notes for this property?

Uh thank you, madam chair.

Uh it has the small attic window is open.

We will we would like to see that closed.

Uh also we would like to see the property register for for the vacant property ordinance.

Okay.

So Lolita, uh, thank you for maintaining as Mr.

Patel just mentioned.

Um, there is a small opening right now that still needs to be addressed.

Uh, but other than that, if you continue to maintain your property and if you register it as a vacant property, um, you can do so online if you go to the city of Detroit's and I.org, I believe, or dot gov.

Uh website.

If you go to the city's websites um and you search vacant property registration, um, it'll it'll show you how to do so, okay?

I can do that.

Okay, wonderful.

Is there a motion to concur to withdraw web?

Motion hearing no objections.

We agree to withdraw 3753 web from dangerous buildings list.

Thank you, Lolita.

We will now hear from Tiffany, followed by Ethel.

Ethel.

And then I am at the about 15 mark.

How many more hands do we have raised, Miss Duncan?

We have 12 hands raised.

Uh that are left.

Yes.

Okay, thank you.

Uh Tiffany, can you hear us?

Hi, can you hear me?

I can hear you.

Yes, we can.

Which property are you calling us about?

Um, 6043 Beagle Street.

Uh Beagle 6043.

This is the 10th property under the eighth block.

This is being ordered demolished.

Tiffany, do you plan to keep or demo?

The keep, ma'am.

Okay, and then we're gonna wait for BC to pull any of the issues to this property.

Uh, but I'm assuming you know what they are.

Are you able to address them?

Yes, ma'am, I am.

Okay, we'll hear from BC what needs to be addressed.

Thank you, madam chair.

Uh we inspected this property on August 212025.

Single family dwelling.

We're gonna open two elements at the left side roof.

Uh this the this part head to the roof.

The port roof is compromised and open front gutter is collapsing due to the pessiable.

The yard is not maintained.

Uh it is uh test and debris in the yard in the upper table vehicle on the property.

Uh so you can see this property is uh not uh maintained, and that's what we up front of uh committee.

Thank you, Mr.

Patel.

Um, Tiffany, uh, do you have any plans to address the abandoned vehicle, the overgrowth, um, and the remaining openings to the property?

Hi, yes, ma'am.

Um, this is my this is my mother's home who passed away September 16th of 2024.

Um, I have done as far as the front um porch, they asked for that to be torn down, which was the hardest part for me to do, and I got that done.

Um, I currently have the tarf.

Um, I'm just waiting for um to come and put the tarp on for me.

I'm here at the property right now, and my brother is two.

We're waiting for well, I think this is him pulling up now to do the um the the as far as the lawn, he's gonna do the lawn.

Um, so I'm working on it.

It's just that they only had gave me two weeks to get get it done, which wasn't really enough for me.

Um, I just needed some extended time to get the the work done to it.

Um as far as the windows being boarded up.

I have that done.

I just have to submit the pictures.

I have that front roof that's caving in.

I have that completely torn down, which was my hardest part to get down because I didn't know how I was gonna do that.

Um so yes, ma'am.

I am I'm um doing my best to get it completed.

I just needed more time.

Heard thank you, Tiffany.

I appreciate that, and I understand this is hard.

Um, wondering what are your plans for the property itself?

Are you looking to remodel, move in, sell rent?

Yes, uh, we want to remodel the home, and it's it's been in our family for years, so we're gonna remodel it and we're gonna continue our traditions in it, and that's what I look forward to doing.

Okay.

Um you have boarded up the windows.

You have a tarp for the roof you mentioned.

Yes, ma'am.

I have a tarp.

Um, we just looking for somebody who's brave enough to get up there and put it up there, but as far as that the the front yard right there, that picture that we're showing right now.

None of that grass and stuff is there no more.

None of that is there anymore.

Um, I will I do I'm here now, so I will take new pictures.

Um, I just wanted to, I wanted to get the pictures and send them all at once so you all can see that everything that you're asking to be done was done.

Um, the tree that's in the back is actually growing from now.

This is the only thing that I need to know about because the tree that's growing in the back back there is actually coming from the school's property, like it's I mean, coming from the city's property, and it's it's just grown so big, and my mother has had issues with this for years, you know, flooding and everything like that because of that tree.

Um, I don't know what I'm supposed to do as far as the city trying to get that tree torn down because it's not even in our yard, it's it's coming from the the school property from next door.

Got it.

Okay, so I definitely think that we can help you with this.

So I this is in our district, ma'am.

So what I'm gonna do is if you wouldn't mind um emailing our office, we can report this with the city um and try to to get the city to remove uh the tree that's growing into your property.

Um if you're ready, I can give you I I'll give you both our email and our phone number whenever you're ready.

I'm ready.

So the phone number to our office is 313 224.

One second, my one second, my PN.

Uh okay.

31313 224.

Uh-huh.

2450.

2450.

And then our email is council member.

Gabriela, G A B R I E L A.

G A B R I E L A.

So while you continue to make these repairs and work on your on your property, I want to help you remove that tree so it's no longer um seen as a responsibility of yours while you're trying to maintain your property, okay?

Thank you so much.

Of course.

And I will make sure that I um get the pictures uploaded.

Um so I screenshot it that this this right here that's on the screen showing.

I screenshotted it.

Um and I'll make sure that I'll send in the pictures of the progress that I'm making.

Okay, thank you, Tiffany.

Appreciate that.

Um, and good luck with continuing to maintain the property as long as you continue to maintain it um and work with B seed and stay in communication with them, you should be all set, okay?

When do when um is the next my next hearing?

The next hearing is going to be October 20th.

But if you send your pictures, if you send um the department's um a plan of of of repairs and what you're working on, as long as you're working with them and the the property is secure, you shouldn't see yourself back here, okay.

Thank you so much to you all.

Thank you.

Of course, is there a motion to send 6043 B goal back to BC?

Motion hearing no objection, this property we will be sent back to BC Tiffany.

Good luck, and we will look for your email or call, okay?

Thank you.

Okay, thank you.

We will now hear from goodbye.

We'll now hear from Etlin followed by Esha or Asha Patrick.

Followed by Asha or Esha, please correct me when you join us, but first we'll hear from Etheln.

Hello?

Yes, we can hear you.

Which property are you calling us about 14959 Karam?

Uh 14959 Karam.

This is the sixth property under the 10th block.

This has been withdrawn.

Thank you, ma'am, for addressing the issues.

Uh BC, are there any notes for this property?

Thank you, madam chair.

No, we do not have the note.

Okay, so Aslin, thank you for addressing the issues.

Do you have any questions for us?

Is this going to be removed from the list?

Not unless you could um tell me how to keep my neighbors from blocking the workers from coming on my property.

Well, you gotta talk to your neighbors, ma'am.

Let them know when the workers are gonna be there and and just ask for the grace and patience while you make these repairs.

I have they told me just call the cops.

I done had cars and everything sold away.

Oh no, all right, ma'am.

Yeah, we we can't pass policies to make people kinder, unfortunately.

Um, but I hope that you're able to figure this out, okay?

Yes, ma'am.

Okay, thank you.

Is there a motion to concur to withdraw 14959 karam?

Motion hearing no objections, we agree to withdraw this property.

Good luck, miss uh Miss Ethlen.

We will now hear from Aisha or Isha.

Please let me know how to properly pronounce your name followed by Zoom user, followed by Zoom user.

Aisha, can you can you hear us?

Hi, this is Christine.

Are you able to hear me?

Yes, Christine?

Yes, hi, Christine.

Which property are you calling us about?

15032 Evanston.

15032 Evanston.

Correct.

This property has been withdrawn.

This is the ninth property under the 10th block, meaning it's no longer on our dangerous buildings list.

Do you have any questions for us, Christine?

I do not.

All right.

Well, thank you for maintaining your property.

Is there a motion to concur?

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry, excuse me.

I do have a question.

Okay.

When will we receive the paperwork to say that it's been removed from the dangerous property list?

B seed, how long does it take for residents to know property owners to know that they've been removed?

Uh thank you, madam chair.

I think that uh come that uh announcement been done by the city clerk office.

Okay, so they would know probably within two to three weeks or something.

I'm not gonna speak for that.

That's correct.

Okay.

So um, ma'am, it sounds like within two to three weeks, you should get a letter from the clerk's office letting you know it's been removed.

Okay, will they mail it or email it?

How will we receive it?

It'll be mail.

Madam Clerk, is it also emailed or just mailed to the property owner?

Is mailed, no emails, it's just gonna be mailed.

All right, so Christine, be on the lookout.

Uh, it's going to be mailed to you, okay.

Does it go to the property address or does it go?

It's vacant, so we don't want to go.

So if it's vacant, is there we should I send an email?

I need to make sure we get the letter sent to the correct location.

No, I understand.

Um, and I I want to say it's whatever your the property donors registered under.

Um, so Mr.

Patel.

Yeah, so the uh that letter would go to the uh the employment we have on a record, like such like a deed, lean mortgage etc.

Particular this property has uh a couple of addresses uh on this one is a PNP group property management LLC.

Uh another one is imminent property LLC.

So that's what the those notifications are gonna go out.

So to the registered LLC address that that we have for this property, that's where the mail is gonna go to.

Yeah.

Okay, thank you.

Okay, no problem.

Thank you.

There was a motion to concur to with thank you to withdraw Evanston hearing no objections.

We will withdraw this property.

We will now move on to Zoom user, followed by Paul.

Followed by Paul.

Zoom user, can you hear us?

Zoom user, you have been meeting.

Yes, ma'am.

Oh, okay.

What is your name?

Yes, ma'am.

My name is Ethan Hagler.

Uh, and the property is 17836 gable.

Okay, well, yeah, okay.

This has five.

Yep, this is the fifth property under the 11th block.

This property has also been withdrawn.

So thank you, Ethan, for doing the work.

Um, to no longer deem this dangerous.

Do you have any questions for us?

No, ma'am.

I thank you for your time though.

We thank you.

Is there a motion to concur?

Motion.

Motion.

Hearing no objections, we agree to withdraw 17836 gable.

Thank you, sir.

Have a good day.

We will now hear from Paul followed by iPhone.

Followed by iPhone.

Paul, can you hear us?

Paul, you have been made a panelist.

You have to unmute yourself.

If you are speaking, we still cannot hear you.

Can you guys hear me?

We can hear you now.

Yes, my name is Paul Schroeder.

Um, also with me uh is uh Brandy Austin.

We're representing uh Bear Rock Detroit, and I believe this is for 2655 uh Atwater.

All right, 2655 Atwater.

This property has been withdrawn from the demolition list.

Thank you for doing the work to no longer deem it dangerous.

Do you have any questions for us?

Uh not at this time.

I don't know, Brandy.

Do you have any questions?

Uh she just said no.

No, we're good.

I have a question for you all.

Do you know what your plans are for this property?

Um I do not.

I'm on the land development, so I just get it ready for our development team.

Uh at this time we're just uh demoing uh the buildings.

Um far as future plans.

Uh I do not know at this point.

So 2655, you're looking to demo?

Yes.

All right, it has been withdrawn from demolition list.

Um this was part of a package of 2615 um at water.

I believe we were on uh hearing of last month about it.

Um, but this is a property that's uh connected to that property as well.

Where is that?

Okay.

Understood.

Um, and then to Mr.

Patel, this has been withdrawn.

Um do you see this property as a states as a as is in a dangerous states or anything?

Uh madam, we had found the small glass window was broken.

Uh yard was clean, uh and a lot was passed in.

So that's the reason we we did uh withdraw it and cleared that in the property owner also stated that they are planning to demo this property, and that's good thing that uh uh the property owner can demolish this property.

Understood.

This has been flagged to us by and maybe you've heard of this bedrock, but we've got some preservationists who are looking to keep this property.

It's apparently historic.

Have you heard anything of this?

Yeah, that's uh not 26 um 55.

That is part of the uh 2615, and we are aware of that.

Um, but those negotiations are a little bit above my my pay.

Uh so um at this point we're just moving forward with uh demoing.

Um if anything changes, then uh we'll adjust, but it's it's not on any historic uh buildings list.

Um so technically it would be okay to demo, and we already have a demo contractor uh under contract.

Um we're just waiting to start abatement work in uh in the buildings.

And you're talking about 2655, correct?

Yeah, along with 2615.

Yep.

Is 2615 also on Atwater?

Yes.

Okay, I understood.

2615 is comprised of about six properties.

Uh 20 uh 655 is one property that sits in between those two properties.

Got it.

Member Waters.

Yeah, thank you.

I I want to understand exactly where it is.

I'm trying to visualize it right now.

There's not a whole lot on Atwater.

So that sits this property sits between what two streets?

Uh it sits in between um what is it?

Shane and Rivard.

If you know where Retha Franklin um Apple Theater, I know exactly where it is.

Yes, it sits apart from that uh in the uh Detroit uh conservative conservancy.

Huh, okay.

Thank you.

Okay, yep.

And looking at the property, there is damage, especially on the roof.

Um right.

Oh, I do see all of the properties.

Okay, and I do see the extensive issues on the roof.

So we're looking to demo this whole cranes units.

Okay, understood.

Um, and have you talked with the folks that are looking to preserve this property?

How have those conversations been going?

Uh we have um, but um we're waiting on getting um renovation numbers back to see if it's even feasible.

Okay.

Um got it.

Thank you.

Okay.

So Brandy, what I believe right now, since you're having discussions with the city, um you're looking to demolish, you have a contract.

Um, there's really, I don't think anything that we can do at this moment.

Um, even if we hold it or it will not matter.

Um, okay.

So all I can really say is I I hope people can continue to be talking with HDAB and folks, so we get a better understanding of how difficult it would be um to preserve this if that was uh something that people wanted.

Um, but I I'm trying to think of what I can do here, and I really can't do much.

Um so I think we need to concur unless there's any other questions or comments uh for this property.

I have a question.

Member Waters?

All right, so the I just want to understand if you're okay with us concurring for the um for the demolition, but your plan is to is to do the demolition yourself.

Correct.

Correct.

Yes, ma'am.

All right, so we're gonna concur concur.

However, you've got to make sure you beat the city to the punch, I guess.

Right?

Yes.

Um per our last uh hearing, the city gave us six months um to to bring them down, and right now we should be well ahead of that's that schedule.

Barring any changes with the crane building, as um Madam spoke about earlier.

If anything changes with that, then of course it'll it'll be longer than that six months.

But as of now, we look to have everything done by the end of um October, barring uh any abatement issues that we run into.

Okay, all right.

Sounds good.

Thank you, Member Waters.

Is there a motion to concur?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, we agreed to remove 2655 at water.

Um, and thank you for having those conversations with H Dab.

We are interested um in what happens through those conversations.

Um, but is there anything else?

Uh you don't you don't have anything else for us today?

And you're all saying no, I'm good.

Okay, awesome.

Uh then thank you for joining us today.

I will now move us along to iPhone followed by thank you, followed by HP.

Followed by HP iPhone, can you hear us?

Uh yes, can you hear me?

Yes, what is your name?

Danielle Winesley.

Hi, Danielle.

Which property are you calling us about?

5937 Cooper Street.

Cooper Cooper.

5937 is the fifth property under the 10th block.

This is being ordered demolished.

Well, yes, it was supposed to be to keep the property.

And I have updated pictures just from yesterday that I can send you guys.

Also, there was a back porch that they wanted me to take down, but they had told me that I had needed to get a permit to take it down, right?

So I went down to the City County building on the fourth floor, and they had instructed me that I did not have to have a permit because it's not in an historical area or building.

And I just wanted to let you guys know that.

Okay.

Thank you.

And I will turn it over to BC to let us know what issues still need to be addressed for Cooper.

Okay.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

We inspected this on September 5th for the second hearing.

Pire damaged.

Notre done previous inspection or heading.

Open three elements at the second floor.

Read door.

This year disconnected second time.

All right.

So Mr.

Patella, it's the openings to the windows.

There seems to be some overgrowth.

Is that the backyard debris?

Yeah, it does.

Okay.

All right, so overgrowth.

Um exposed openings and debris in the back.

Uh Danielle, uh, what are your plans for the property you're looking to keep, sell, rent.

Am I on you?

It's not working.

We can hear you now.

Oh, you can hear me now.

Okay.

No, I I plan on moving in the I plan on moving in the building or in the um house just to occupy just one level.

But those the boards have been replaced at the top, and then it was just something that I had with the back door.

It was, I think it was just maybe like how the porch was.

It was hard to close tight, but there was no way to get to it.

Like if like from the outside.

So like nobody can get to that part.

Um, but those are my plans, and I'm it's just me.

I'm just working, I'm trying, like I'm I'm trying.

So I had the yard kind of done, like what they could do because of the overgrowth in the back in this one particular area.

Like somebody else has to do it.

Their tools aren't able to, but um, it does look better.

All right.

Well, um, B seed also will will need a plan of of when you plan to make repairs.

Do you have a timeline for that of what you're gonna start with first?

I know you mentioned um also there's there's debris in the back of it, looks like the porch broke off.

Could could you begin to address those things, like the overgrowth, the debris from the the tear down of the house.

Yes, I would need to I'll have to um order a dumpster, and it was just like I I would be able to within the next couple of weeks.

I just couldn't do it then, but all that has to be um placed by a dumpster because I'm not asked if I could do it for a bulk day.

They said that I wasn't I wouldn't be able to, so I have to order like a private dumpster to have it removed.

And um, as far as the plans for the house, it's it was my grandmother's house, so I'm I mean we plan on moving back in.

It's just that with the fire, like with the water damage and then like the it was just like a number of things that I had to do in order to get it even livable again.

Right.

Okay, well, member waters.

Yeah, thank you so much, and I I am thrilled that you are trying to save your grandma's house.

Uh I I've canvassed some in some places before, and um trying to help young people save their grandparents' home, and they were too busy to come out and get the information that we had in order to help them save that home.

So I want to thank you for it.

And um, it's a very um nice looking home, as far as I can see.

And so um uh we want to be as supportive as as we can.

If you cleaned up the debris and make sure the windows are closed and so forth, and uh think you can get there.

Thank you.

I really appreciate it.

I'm really I'm trying.

I just have it.

It's really just me, myself and the support of my brother.

Um, because he kind of knows more, but um I'm we're really we're really trying to get it going as you know as fast as we can.

Um, but the the repart, I just have to get the uh dumpster just to have them pick that up and take and take it away.

And um yeah, that's that's that's what I'm doing.

Isn't there a way they can order dumpsters?

How do you order the dumpsters?

Well, I have been getting quotes, and I didn't know that they were that expensive, like $300, like three for a dumpster just to put some stuff in.

There is an option, excuse me, sorry, member waters.

Is it that expensive?

There is uh there's a there's a city offering.

So um, I'm looking at it now.

Um so there is a number to call to get like a discounted uh dumpster from the city.

I'm looking for it now.

If you need waste picked up outside of your scheduled time, support your cleaner.

Um I've seen it on billboards.

Um, but I can't recall pick up construction.

Uh contact your service provider.

Do you know what Mr.

Patel?

Uh recycling.

Thank you.

Um, Madam Chair.

Uh CM Water.

I think the DPW probably come out and provide the estimates.

Once they set it up the debris at the cub site, and that might be more reasonable.

Okay.

Um, yeah, that might help.

Oh, okay.

So the DPW number is oh, I think you miss Duncan.

We received it.

So the phone number, ma'am, that you want to call uh for bulk collection.

It's uh 313 876 000 four.

313 876004.

Um give them a call, let them know that you need uh bulk pickup, and they can let you know what your options are.

It looks like there uh is uh a more reasonable price for a dumpster.

But give them a call and they can tell you uh what's what offer um what they have to offer.

Thank you guys so much.

So I'm gonna call them soon as I really appreciate it.

Okay, and then just a note, ma'am.

Um, this is the second time, and and I don't want there to be a third.

In order to avoid uh you having to come back to a hearing, you'll need to make sure that there are no openings to your property, that's the overgrowth is maintained and that there's no garbage around your property.

If you register this as a vacant property, you can go to Detroit Mi.gov and go to the search button um and search vacant property registration, and then that way you can register your property as vacant um and should help you no longer uh put the property on the dangerous buildings list, okay.

Oh, okay.

So Detroit uh mi.gov.gov and this search vacant property and then they'll search me through there.

Okay, and then the other the other things.

Once I do the the dumpster pickup stuff and all that, then I'll send the pictures back to that email address.

Yes, ma'am, please do.

Okay, thank you.

All right, thank you.

Is there a motion to send Cooper back to B seed?

Motion hearing no objections.

5937 Cooper.

That's what we were discussing, correct?

Yes, thank you.

That's gonna be sent back to BC.

Okay.

Well, thank you, Danielle.

Hope you have a good rest of your day.

Thank you.

You too.

I will hear now from HP followed by Mike Clark.

Followed by Mike HP.

Can you hear us?

Caller using an HP phone or computer.

Or with the initials HP.

You are up next.

How are you?

Doing good.

How are you?

Oh well.

Good.

Uh, what is your name and which property are you calling us about?

Uh my name is Nick Wall.

Home burn the property at 4947 Maplewood.

First one to thank you all for hearing you back.

All right, thank you.

This is 4947 Maplewood.

This is the ninth property under the 12th block.

This property has been withdrawn.

Thank you for doing the work to no longer deem it dangerous.

It's no longer on the dangerous buildings list for demolition.

Do you have any questions for us?

Uh no.

Mr.

Thank you.

Mr.

Patel, any notes?

Uh thank you, Madam Ted.

Uh the yard need to be clean also.

They have to register for the weekend property.

Understood.

Thank you.

So just continue to maintain your yard, please.

Any debris or any overgrowth.

Um, and it's right, it's recommended that you two register your property as vacant, okay?

All right, thank you.

We'll do.

All right, thank you.

I appreciate you.

Is there a motion to concur?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, we concur.

Thank you, sir.

Have a blessed one.

We will now hear from Mike followed by Daryl Bailey.

Followed by Daryl.

Mike, you are first.

Good afternoon.

Good afternoon.

Which property are you calling us about?

Oh, 18921.

John R.

18921 John R has also been withdrawn.

Thank you, sir, for addressing the issues.

Um, it's no longer on the dangerous buildings list for demolition.

Do you have any questions for us?

No, I don't.

All right.

Is there a motion to concur?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, we agree to withdraw 18921 John R from the demolition list.

Thank you, Mike.

Have a good one.

We will hear now from Durell followed by Cassandra.

Followed by Cassandra.

Darrell, can you hear us?

Darrell, if you can hear us, we cannot hear you.

You are up next.

You have been made a panelist.

You'll just need to unmute yourself for us to be able to hear you.

Oh, Durrell, we still can't hear you.

I might need to add you to the bottom of the queue following John.

If you can hear us, Darrell.

Unfortunately, we cannot hear you.

So I will add you to the bottom of the queue.

You're going to be following John.

But we will now hear from Cassandra, followed by Motorola.

Cassandra, can you hear us?

And Motorola, you are on deck.

So be prepared for us to call on you next, Cassandra.

You have been made a panelist.

You just have to unmute yourself.

Unmute, Cassandra.

I believe you can also unmute by pressing star eight or star six.

We'll we'll we'll double check.

Cassandra, we will add you to the bottom of the queue as well.

Motorola, can you hear us?

Okay, something's going on.

I hope not, because we're getting towards the end here.

Cassandra, you have been made a panelist.

Oh, excuse me.

Nope.

We've moved on to Motorola.

Motorola, you have been you have access to speak.

Can you hear us?

And madam chair, it is star six.

Star six.

Okay.

For folks that are calling in, maybe not uh through the app.

You can press star six to unmute yourself.

So, Motorola, if you can press star six for us, we might be able to hear you.

Or you can just unmute yourself and we should be able to hear you.

Hmm.

We still cannot.

Let's try one more.

This might be an issue on our end.

Not sure.

Who's the next caller?

Next, we have Bashir.

Bashir, can you hear us?

Yes.

Okay.

Awesome.

So thank you, Bashir.

Um, and just a reminder, folks.

We we couldn't hear John Durell, Cassandra, or Mortarola.

Uh so the four of you, please.

You can jump off and jump back on.

Um, there might be some technical issues.

Uh, but Bashir, uh, which property are you calling us about?

6672 Clifton.

Okay.

6672 Clifton.

This is the first property under the 10th block.

It has also been withdrawn.

Thank you for doing the work to no longer deem it dangerous.

Do you have any questions for us?

No, thank you.

Laviniators have a letter.

Okay.

That's okay.

Thank you.

Is there a motion to concur?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, we agree to withdraw.

Clifton from the demolition list.

Thank you, Bashir.

Have a good day.

Who is our next caller?

Next, we have caller number ending 238, followed by caller number ending 091.

Caller ending in 238.

You have been made a panelist.

You just have to unmute yourself.

You can press star six or unmute.

If you're speaking, we cannot hear you.

Caller ending in 238.

Yes, I am.

Hello.

Can you hear me?

Yes, we can hear you now.

What is your name?

Cedric Felix.

Felix.

Yes, Cedric Felix.

It's hard to hear you.

Um, but let me know which property you're calling us about.

Um let me pick off my headphones.

Okay, please.

Yes, we can.

Which property are you calling us about?

8913 North Clarendon.

North Clarendon.

That'd be nine.

Nine nine.

This is the ninth property under the ninth block.

This property is being ordered demolished.

Um, sir, what are your plans for the property?

Are you looking to keep or demo?

Uh I'm I'm planning on demoing the property.

Okay.

So then we can all agree to demolition.

Um, what we'll do, sir, is we will agree.

Oh, what was that?

I'm sorry.

I um can you educate me on when you say you guys are going to demo it?

Um so when you guys demo it, what happens?

Do I still keep the property or what's what's the procedure?

Because this is my first time dealing with this.

No worries.

I I understand.

Um, so because this is your property, um, we recommend that you demolish it.

It's going to be less expensive if you do it.

It's still gonna be pricey because of just the cost of demolish of demolishing.

Um, but it tends to be least um not as expensive when property owners themselves do it.

If the city does it, it'll cost more.

If the city does move forward and demolishing the property, they will put your prop, they'll put a lien on your property, and you'll have to pay back the city back from that demo price, and then you'll get the land back.

Um, so it's recommended that you demolish, you'll keep the property, and then you're able to develop it however you'd like within the case.

Okay, perfect.

So I will demolish then.

You will demolish.

I will demolish.

Okay, I would demolish.

Sounds good, sir.

So what we'll do here is um now this is a race that that you want to win.

So we're going to agree that we're going to demolish this property.

Uh, you'll want to as quickly as you can um at least pull a permit or pull a contract and send that over to B seed.

We'll pull up the email once more.

So, what you'll want to email um to the departments is your confirmation of demolition.

So you either through a permit or through a contract with uh with the company that's gonna demolish that way.

The city doesn't move forward and demolish it on uh for you, and that way you don't have to pay the city back.

How much time do we would I have to do that?

It's not gonna happen tomorrow.

Um it's it takes a while for for the city to to demolish properties, uh, but I would say no more than a few months uh just to be conservative.

Um, and then this is the the email um on the screen.

Um, if you can please screenshot it or or write it down.

This is the email that you'll want to send.

What was that?

I'm on the phone.

I'm doing it via telephone.

Oh, okay.

So you can't see the email.

Right.

All right, I'm gonna read it to you if you're ready.

You can go here with the email.

Yes, I'm ready to.

If you're ready.

Yes, I am okay.

Uh the email reads B as in boy, s as in Sam, E as an elephant, D as in Detroit, D as in dog, E as in elephant, M as in Monkey, O as an octopus.

So B seed demo at Detroit Mi.gov.

Okay.

And I will okay.

So let me uh let me ask you this.

Once I um get the contractor, uh send the email.

Do I get something like notification or stating that you guys receive it?

Uh so that you guys will start the process of demoing it.

As far as it is explained to me, once email uh once B seed seeds your email, they will they will let you move forward um with the contract.

And I don't believe that they will prioritize this property as something that they will demo, noting that you are going to do so because of the contract or permit that that you sent with them.

You got it.

And how do I and what's the steps to give in a permit?

Or does the contractor handle that?

The contractor should know.

Um the contractor should know, and and if anything, Mr.

Patel, which floor again um are permits for?

Uh the fourth floor, room uh 432.

Room 432, the fourth floor here at the K Mac building, sir.

Um, but your contractor, if they do demolitions, they should know how to pull the con uh the the permits as well.

You got it.

All right.

So um thank you for talking us, uh talking this through with us, and we are going to agree to demolish.

Is there a motion to concur?

No, sure.

Hearing no objections, we agree that 89 13 North uh Clarendon will be demolished.

Um thank you, sir, and good luck.

Yeah, you said um there's a you say there's a process, so I I have maybe a month or two.

I get it done.

I I would say that would be an aggressive timeline, actually, if it if if they demolish it in about two months.

Um we have a lot of properties on the demolition pipeline.

Um so you should be able to have some time, but you should address this sooner rather than later.

Yeah, I that I'm trying.

It's it's I've called maybe 15 demolition companies, and it's just predict.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Does this um I I I heard to agree, Vina, the city has should have a list that they can point you to for demolition.

I heard that as well, Mr.

Patel.

Um, I believe that has been shared before.

Is there uh a list for recommendations or companies that we recommend, or is it the list that we use, um which is still pretty expensive on the the contractors that we use?

Thank you, madam chair.

Uh if they can email uh contact our office via that email and see how we can provide them the old all licensed contact uh in our system.

Okay, and then they can go from there.

Okay, so yes, sir.

Uh there feel free to email that same email and ask for recommendation um of contractors that do demolitions.

The city will send you what we have.

Um, and hopefully you're able to find someone uh that that is a reasonable price.

Thank you so much.

Thank you for your time.

No problem.

Thank you.

Miss Duncan, did you have anything else you wanted to add?

No, madam chair.

Okay, I understood.

Thank you.

We concur to demolish.

Good luck, sir.

Um, we will now move it on to caller ending in 091, followed by David Thomas Turner.

Followed by David, caller ending in 091.

Can you hear us?

Hello, can you hear me?

Yes, we can.

Which property are you calling us about?

Uh 15210 Foyer Street, Detroit, Michigan, 4827.

This is the third property under the 11th block, 15210 foyer.

This is being withdrawn.

Thank you for addressing the issues.

Uh, this no this property is no longer deemed dangerous.

Uh B seed, any notes.

Thank you, man.

Uh yeah, this property.

Uh they have the vehicle on the lot that need to be removed if it's the abandoned vehicle.

Also, we would like to see the record property register on this property.

All right.

Uh sir.

Uh are you able to remove the abandoned vehicle that's on the property?

Um, yes.

All right.

And then it's also recommended that you register this property as vacant.

Um you can do so by going to DetroitMI.gov and searching uh vacant property registration.

Um, those are the only notes from BC.

Do you have any questions for us?

Uh no.

Uh is there a time frame um in for me to move that vehicle?

Um the property is maintained, thank you.

Um, but until that's removed, it'll probably flag for our inspectors to stop by.

So the sooner that you remove it, the sooner you'll be cleared of the inspectors also um noting the the abandoned vehicle.

Okay, and you say go on um Detroit.gov was that on the list registered list?

Detroit Mi as in Michigan.gov.

Okay.

Okay.

Do you have any other um no?

I'm also on that Zoom, so I'll just I'll just disconnect off of it.

Oh, okay.

Understood.

Got it.

Well, thank you, sir.

I hope you have a blessed day.

We will now hear from David, followed by followed by going back to the top of the list with John.

All right, David, can you hear us?

John, you are up next.

Uh David, if you can uh hear us, you are a panelist.

You can just unmute yourself.

If you are calling us, you can press star six.

You appears to be unmuted, madam chair.

Oh David, you are unmuted and a panelist, and we still can't hear you.

Not sure if you're connected to earphones or headphones or uh Bluetooth.

Not sure.

Sometimes that makes it difficult as well to connect, but if not, we still can't hear you.

And you know what that means.

We're gonna have to add it to the bottom of the queue.

We'll give you a few more seconds, David.

All right, I'm gonna add you to the bottom.

We're at the we're at the end here.

Um, and want to make sure that we're able to wrap up.

So I'm going to go back to John.

John, can you hear us?

John, you've been made a panelist.

You can unmute yourself or press star six to unmute yourself.

Can you hear me?

Oh, we can hear you now, John.

Okay.

So property one five seven nine five clover lawn now.

What is it?

795.

Clover lawn.

Okay.

This is 102.

This property is being ordered demolished.

Uh, just a note.

Did we already discuss this property?

We last month we did for the first time.

For the first time.

So this is a bring back.

I'm only asking because I made a note for this property.

I think that must have been my mistake.

Okay.

So then uh 15795 clover lawn.

This is being ordered demolished.

Uh John, are you looking to keep or demo?

Uh we want to keep it, and we've sent the uh vacant uh property registration uh earlier this month.

We've also sent a copy to your um address, and we've also sent pictures uh to your address on all four sides.

We've also uh demolished the garage and disposed of that.

Okay.

Since our last meeting.

Oh, thank you.

BC, what other issues need to be addressed?

And give us one second, John.

Thank you, madam chad.

Uh for this year, we inspected this property on August 18th, 2025.

We found the single family one and a half started brick building, dwelling.

We're gonna open two element at the second floor at all site, first floor barricade, border, hard damage throughout the interior, damage to front port and roof.

Uh permissi is not maintained.

Uh that's what we are uh front of this committee.

I think second time.

Okay.

Um and John.

Um all the windows are boarded uh and they were at the time of the pictures, but uh on the upper floors and some of the bottom, they're boarded from the inside of the window versus the outside.

And the art's meeting.

The art is maintained.

Okay.

And uh I don't know if you can look at the pictures we sent on uh September 10th.

Okay, and what are your plans for the property?

Looking to sell rehab?

We're gonna rehab.

All right, and then this opening right here.

Have you boarded up uh these windows and tarp the roof?

Yeah, if you look at our pictures that we sent, uh they're all boarded there.

Okay.

So Mr.

Patel, just to give you time to review.

Um and if they have addressed the issues currently, um can we send this back to you so they're can uh so they can continue their work.

They registered it as a vacant property as well.

Um thank you, madam chair.

Uh yeah, we're gonna look at that, and also like to know how soon they can able to uh get the permit to start repair this part of them as property.

It looks all full from the front side.

Then it will be what gone right away.

Um John go right ahead.

Well, normally when we rehab the property, we bring in the do the permits as we progress along, whether it's building, plumbing, electrical.

Um I'm not sure at the last meeting they talked about a fire permit.

I did call down to um um the 423 or 432 or whatever the room number was.

Uh they didn't weren't quite sure what a fire permit was.

They did eventually transfer me to an area, but it was related to a commercial property for uh fire suppression systems, which really didn't apply to a residential.

So uh what's the right fire?

Yeah, if you could give us the right area uh because we did attempt to uh get to the right area, but they didn't seem to know it when we called.

Mr.

Patel, is there a specific fire permit?

Are you suggesting any permit that shows um where they're going to begin to make these repairs?

Uh through that uh the fire repair permits.

Fire repair permits.

Yeah, so that that specified that the road's part of them is and they are making the repair for that fire that uh that is and the area that has that we could call down there.

So the the fourth floor here at K Mac um is where permits can be pulled.

Um so you can go to what is it 403?

430.

430.

So room 430 on the fourth floor here at K Mac is the permitting departments, and that's where you can ask regarding the fire repair permits.

Okay.

We don't have any problem with with doing that.

Okay.

Um, and appreciate the work that you're doing now.

Um just want to make sure that we are uh avoiding any openings um and overgrowth to keep the property uh looking clean and maintained while you make repairs.

Are there any other questions for Clover Lawn?

All right, John, do you have any other questions for us?

If not, we'll the only question I had is uh you're not able to see the pictures that we sent you.

Uh we won't at this moment.

What we'll do is we will send this property back to B seed.

And since you've already sent over the pictures, they'll review it.

Um if you're able to pull any permits, uh email those to the uh to that same email as well, um, showing them that you are doing your due diligence to make those repairs.

Um, and as long as you continue to work with B seed, you shouldn't see yourself back here again, okay?

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Do you need the email or do you jot it down?

No, we have uh we know that's okay.

All right.

Well, thank you, John.

Appreciate it.

Is there a motion to send B seed back or Cloverlawn back to B seed?

Motion hearing no objections, this property will be sent back.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We are, I believe, going back to our uh our list, Ms.

Duncan.

If that's the case, Darrell.

Yes, madam chair.

Is Daral still on with us?

No, madam chair, he is not.

All right, Durrell dropped off.

So I have Cassandra next.

Yes, madam chair.

Cassandra, can you hear us?

Yes, good afternoon.

Thank you so much.

Uh Cassandra Webster calling about property one four two four seven Marlowe.

Zip code.

You have it 4827, I believe.

One for two four-seven Marlowe.

That's correct.

This is the 10th property under the uh 12th block.

This is ordered, this is being ordered demolished.

Uh Cassandra, are you planning to keep our demo?

No, we're planning to keep.

I am in process and by this uh before October 20th.

I will send you the appropriate pictures and repairs that are being made to the property.

Um the overgrowth will be cut by the end by or before the end of this week, and um the building will be boarded or the home will be boarded, excuse me, so that there is no um exterior elements that can be that can come in.

All right, we'll hear from B seed to see um what other notes they might have for this property while they pull up their information.

Are you looking to sell rents moving to this property?

Um my nephew is doing a complete renovation, and I believe it will then be uh they will then look to sell.

Okay, all right, understood.

Um B seed, whenever you're ready.

What are the issues that need to be addressed for Merlot?

Marlowe.

Marlowe.

Merlot is wine, I think yes.

And give us one second, Cassandra.

Mr.

Patel.

No problem.

And the grass has already I have pictures now.

The grass has already been cut.

Okay, so um I I have pictures that I could send to McGrawlu at DM.gov.

Oh, I believe that was an inspector.

Okay.

Uh we're gonna turn it over to Mr.

Patel to share what else needs to be addressed.

Mr.

Patel.

Uh thank you, madam chat.

Uh part of this year, I think we inspected this property on August 18, 2025.

We found the two family two-story frame dwelling with the garage.

We're gonna open to possible three space and element at the north side.

We had the pile damage opening and rear side entry.

Pile damage to north side of the dwelling exterior.

Garage roof collapsing into the garage.

That garage need to be removed.

Uh the yard is blighted, and that's what we are front of this committee.

All right.

So, Mr.

Patel, the biggest issue really is the garage in the yard in the back.

And the around, we've got some openings of the property.

Okay.

That's correct.

Yeah, it's part of MS property.

We are dealing with the uh okay.

Thank you.

So, Cassandra, um, are you looking to demolish the garage or what are your plans to to to bring it back to life?

Um, I think they're gonna rebuild, they're gonna rebuild the garage.

Okay.

Um, and you said that you took pictures, the property currently has the overgrowth maintained.

Are all of the openings uh covered as well?

On the on the north side, it is, and they're working to have the other done by before the end of the week.

They'll have that boarded, but he's got on tap for what did he say?

They're gonna install windows next week on the burn side.

There had been a fire years ago at this property, and um, and so they're going to begin, as I said, they've already begun uh with the overgrowth um taken out literally as of today.

And uh windows are gonna go in, but they will board boarding will be up before the end of the week for everything that is open.

And you mentioned you have new windows.

I hear often that windows are stolen from vacant property.

So if you are able to board everything up until you're ready, um, I I think to really occupy the the property that might that might be best to save you some money um if you order windows.

Yeah, the windows don't have to be there, um, especially if the property is going to be vacant, but they do have to be boarded up.

Gotcha.

Okay.

Um are there any other questions?

Hearing none.

Is there a motion to send this back to B seed?

Oh, sure.

Hearing no objections, Cassandra, this will be sent back to B seed.

Uh please send over those pictures.

Continue to work with uh the administration, the departments with your plans for repair.

And as long as you continue to maintain the property and address those uh those issues, you shouldn't see yourself back here again.

Okay.

Great.

And am I still emailing to the McGraw or am I sending it to you?

Um I would I would do I would do both.

I would I would send it to McGraw and then I would CC this email here.

Were you able to were you able to jot it down?

Sure.

Was that uh Gabriela at Detroit Mi.gov.

You'll want to email B seed.

Uh their email is currently on the screen, so you can either screenshot it or jot it down.

Let us know once you have it.

Let me just take a picture of it one second.

Okay.

All right.

So that's the email along with the uh the the inspector that you're working with, okay?

Very good.

Thank you so much.

You guys have a great afternoon.

Thank you, you as well.

We will now turn it over to Motorola, followed by David, followed by David.

Mortarola, can you hear us?

Motorola seems to have fallen off, so we can go to David.

Okay, David, can you hear us?

Is David our last caller, Ms.

Duncan?

No, Madam Chair.

We have two more hands.

We have Davis Thomas Turner, and then we have Samsung.

David Davis and Samsung is what we have.

Yes, madam chair.

Thank you.

And David appears to be unmuted.

David, you aren't unmuted, but we cannot hear you.

You'll want to unmute yourself or press star six to unmute yourself.

And I know we did speak to a uh uh David previously.

Not sure if it's the same David, but if not.

We have a David, you have permission to speak.

We just cannot hear you.

You have to unmute yourself.

Or press star six.

Sorry, David.

I'm gonna move us on to the next caller.

Davis, I believe, Ms.

Duncan.

No, David, madam chair.

Still David.

Yep, this is David Thomas Turner, and then there's uh David.

Both are unmuted, but I can't hear either.

All right.

So David and Davis.

You are both unmuted.

Trying to see if we can hear either of you.

We cannot.

So David and Davis, if you can hear us, we cannot hear you.

I'm going to ask that we go to our Samsung caller next.

Before we afternoon, my name.

Oh, yes, go right ahead.

Samsung?

My name is Timothy Justin.

I'm calling about 13556 Metatal.

Thanks, Timothy.

And are you calling us from a Samsung phone?

I am.

Okay, got it.

So this is Samsung Timothy.

Can you give us the address one more time?

13556 Metatal.

M-E-T-T-E-T-A-L.

One three five five six MetaTel.

This has been withdrawn.

This is the fifth property under the 13th block.

Um thank you, Timothy, for making the needed repairs.

B seed, are there any lists or any notes for this property?

Thank you, madam.

Yeah, we found the property was secure boarded.

Uh they had the I think one of the door might be loose door that they have to make sure that entries tight.

Uh that has been rectified, yes.

Okay.

Okay.

Uh can I make a comment, please?

One second.

Go ahead.

Mr.

Patel.

Uh continues to uh maintaining the yard and also uh do the registration poor recon property.

Understood, Timothy.

Um I just want to let you know I called in originally at at 125.

I've been here the whole time on the phone, and even though I tapped nine like 15 times, it somehow never raised my hand.

Only when you said that there's nobody left on the list that I freak out and try to get Zoom working on this brand new phone.

I'm glad I did, but just so you know, that was an issue for me that I could not raise my hand for you guys, even though I've been here since 130.

Understood.

Um, so I'm glad we got to talk.

And not sure what the issue may be.

Uh if anyone is calling in to Zoom, you should be able to raise your hand.

That's the option to do so.

So you're saying that when you called in, there was no way for you to raise your hand or no options to make comments or anything.

Correct.

Per the uh l the instructions I have, it says tap nine in order to raise your hand.

I called the 312 number.

Um, and then I tap nine like every every time you mention the next person up, I'd tap nine.

Okay.

And it just kept on rolling through, and then when finally, thank you very much for saying, okay, the last three on our list are this, and I realized I wasn't on the list.

So I jumped off the phone, downloaded Zoom, and I figured out how to get Zoom working on my brand new phone.

So it worked out.

Just wanted to let you know that was a situation for me.

Got it.

Understood.

And unfortunately, that might be the same for other folks, which is why I do mention jump off, jump on, try to figure something out.

Um, but uh good.

I I'm glad that we were able to talk.

And yes, to anybody else um that might be on the line still listening either through the phone or through Zoom.

Um we have just two more callers left.

And if your name is not Davis or David, you might want to again download Zoom if you're not um already on here or call us in.

Um, but we will definitely pick on on any of the hands that are raised.

Um so appreciate that, Timothy.

Um, do you have anything else for us?

No, have a wonderful day.

All right.

Um, this is we are discussing MetaTel.

Is there a motion?

Is there a motion to concur?

Okay.

We agreed to withdraw one three five five six metital from the demolition list.

Thank you, Timothy.

We will now turn it over to Ms.

Duncan.

We have David and Davis, correct?

We have David and David, and we also have Motorola who appears to be back.

Okay.

They might be the same folks.

Um David, if you can hear us, we are going to let's give permission to all three of those names.

Uh David, David, and Motorola.

Um, you have been made a panelist.

If you are on Zoom, you can raise your hands now so that we can make you a panelist if we haven't already.

If you're on the call, if you're calling on the on a landline on a cell phone, you can press star six to unmute yourself.

And again, all three of these accounts have been made panelists so they'll be able to hear you.

There's also a caller with number 043 who has unmuted themselves, who I unmuted who might be related, but unsure.

043 caller ending in 043.

Can you hear us?

Yes, I can.

And who is this that we're speaking to?

My name is Eddie Mora.

Hi, Eddie.

Are you which property are you calling us about?

Well, I'm calling about 3707 GRISO.

And there's several properties that my family own as well on the same street.

I don't know if there's others that need to be addressed today.

Okay, so we do have this 3707 GRISO.

This has been withdrawn.

Um, so thank you, Eddie, for addressing any concerns regarding this property.

We don't see any other um Grisels on uh addresses on our list today.

So not sure what other properties you you may own.

Um, but if you only receive the letter for this property, um I'm I'm only going to assume that this is the only issue um property that you have.

Mr.

Patel, do you have any notes for this property?

Uh thank you, madam chad.

Uh, only the note I have that uh this property need and property registration.

Okay.

Um do you have any other questions for us?

It's been recommended that you register your vacant property.

Uh, but this property, thank you for maintaining it.

It's not going to be on the demo list.

Do you have any questions for us?

Appreciate that, thank you.

No, no, uh, no questions.

And uh I'll see the family uh registers it as a vacant property ma'am.

Okay, wonderful.

Is there a motion to concur?

Motion hearing no objections, we agree to remove 3707 uh grysel.

Um, folks, I need to step away.

I will now be handing it over to our vice chair to wrap us up.

Uh so thank you all so much.

Have a good rest of your Monday.

Thank you, madam chair.

Councilman Benson has a deck in a con.

Um, how many do hands we have remaining, Ms.

Duncan?

Uh through the chair, we have three hands.

It's the same participants, David, David Thomas Turner in the Motorola.

Okay, can any of them come online?

And let's take the first one, your discretion.

It appears David, so he is a panelist and he has unmuted.

We just cannot hear him.

All right, David.

When we we need to continue to move, we want to ensure that you have the opportunity to uh come before us today.

Can you unmute yourself?

And David, if you're if you're trying to speak to us, we cannot hear you.

Ms.

Miss Duncan, can you rem refresh all of those who are waiting on the process to unmute themselves and to uh be heard?

Yes, to raise or lower your hand, please push star nine and to unmute yourself, please push star six.

So David has raised his hand and he is unmuted.

We just cannot hear him.

Um I did or not.

David.

All right, let's go to the next caller.

Yes, Mr.

Chair.

Next, we have David Thomas Turner.

Mr.

Turner, if you could please unmute yourself so we can hear your building.

Mr.

Turner, if you could please unmute yourself.

All right, Miss Duncan, let's go to the next caller.

Next we have Motorola.

And callers who are having difficult time, please hang up and call back.

Maybe we can that'll get you through.

Then Motorola, if you can please unmute yourself.

Motorola.

Going once.

Going twice.

All right, Miss Duncan, we're gonna have to uh move on.

Um so if they are still trying, uh those are three hands, and we get through this process and we dispose of these properties.

You can still try.

We can always go back and reconsider a vote.

Um so let's continue to move.

Yes, Mr.

Chair.

All right, uh Mr.

Chairman.

Yes, ma'am.

Uh I would I would just like to say, and I I'm not sure if they can hear me or not, but if they can, and they've been waiting, um, to email me at council member waters at Detroit Mi.gov and indicate the fact that you were online and you you were not recognized.

My office number is 313 628 2363, 313, 628 2363.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Yes, ma'am.

All right, let's begin the dance.

And so I do not have good notes today, so I'll need support in just saying if we've returned something to BC, and so we'll go through the entire block, and there are changes that need to be made.

Just let me know at that time, and we can uh make the motion to concur based on that updated information.

Clear?

Yes, Mr.

Chair.

Fantastic.

Okay, so block eight thirty-nine six eight sixteenth, order demolished 3536 24th, order demolish.

The following properties, the following five properties have been withdrawn.

4930 4973 30th, 608930th, 14647 Artesian, 2655 Atwater, 17185 Avon, 20067 Avon, order demolished, one six one four Beatrice, order demolished, six zero four three goal.

Any changes there?

Motion to concur department findings for block eight.

Motion.

I'm sorry, my question is.

Member Waters discussion.

No.

Oh, Mr.

Chair, I was just gonna note that 6043 Beagle was returned back to B siege until October 20th.

All right, thank you.

Please make that change.

All right, Madam Clerk, did you get that that change?

Okay.

Without objection, this body will concur department findings for block eight, noting uh number 10 in block eight.

Returns are six in the BC.

All right, block nine.

Four three five one Berkshire, one nine six seven zero binder, seven six three nine brush withdrawn.

10410 cad you three order demolished 3027 Cadillac withdrawn.

2952 CAS returns are section of B seed.

3975 CAS order demolish 90 Claremont.

Oh no.

Member Waters, like I said, please we're gonna make these changes at the end of each block.

So let's let me know at the end of each block.

That way we can get through them and then make those changes.

900 Claremont 8913, North Claremont 8961 North Clarence, Clarendon and North and 8916 North Cruendon.

Any changes?

13975 is BC.

Returns restriction to BC.

Okay.

Without objection, this body will concur department findings for block 9.

Block 10.

And then please make any change at the end of the block, and we will uh make that request for a motion.

6.

This is block 10.

6672 Clifton withdrawn.

15795 Cloverlawn order demolished.

8261 Colfax withdrawn.

17350 Cooley Demolished.

5937 Cooper Demolished.

14959 Corum withdrawn.

744 Cotrel demolished.

4713 Crane withdrawn.

15032 Evanston withdrawn.

14198 Evergreen Demolished.

Motion to concur department findings with any changes.

Changes.

What number is that?

That's um 102.

Thank you.

And 5937 was also Cooper was also returned to BC.

Okay.

All right.

Madam Clerk, is you receive you to get those?

It should have been 10 2 and 10 5 return jurisdiction to BC.

All right, thank you.

Without objection, this body will concur department findings as modified.

That objection, that motion will pass.

Block 11.

3836 Fisher, order demolished.

1761 West Forest, demolished.

The following are withdrawn.

152104 2000 Franklin.

13897 Goddard Demolis.

3707 Grussell withdrawn.

9166 Guilford demolished.

2630 Harding withdrawn.

At this time, the chair entertained motion to concur.

Department findings.

Discussion.

Discussion.

Was that modified?

I put a I put a uh note there.

Did we um concur with you for demolition?

Administration.

Mr.

Mr.

Tati, yeah.

I think that's what was concerned part of the ODL.

Madam Clerk, do you have the same?

I have that it was ordered demolished.

Okay.

It was.

All right.

Okay.

At this time, the chair will entertain a motion to concur department findings.

Without objection, this body will concur with department findings.

Block 12.

8617 Harper demolished.

6022 Hazlitt demolished.

3784 Hogarth demolished.

18921 John R withdrawn.

1709 Kendall demolished.

9915 Kirchaville demolished.

12293 Kilborn demolished.

9353 Laura demolished.

4947 Maplewood withdrawn.

14247 Marlowe demolished.

At this time, the chair will entertain motion to concur department findings.

Are there any changes?

Um discussion.

Motion.

Number 10.

1210.

Return jurisdiction.

I thought so.

Return jurisdiction?

That is correct.

Any other changes?

Yeah.

Right.

Without objection, this body will concur department findings with number with block 12 number 10 being returned to BC.

Okay.

The motion.

Motion.

That objections body will concur department findings for block 12 as modified.

Block 13.

Unless stated, these are all demolished.

4900 S.

Martindale, 8850, Mason, 2937 McClellan.

10620 McKinney withdrawn.

13556 Medital withdrawn.

6452 Norfield.

7526 Palmetto.

16915 Parkside withdrawn.

2739 Pasadena.

3361 Pasadena.

Motion to concur department findings.

Are there any modifications?

Discussion.

Motion.

Discussion.

Yeah.

4900 South Martindale.

Return.

Return, yes.

Any other?

And I do question 2739 Pasadena.

That's returned.

So two returns?

Yes.

Okay.

This time the chair will intend a motion to concur department findings as modified with 131 and 139 being returned jurisdiction to BC.

Motion.

That objections body will concur department findings as modified.

Block 14.

All are demolished except as otherwise noted.

6684 Pellose withdrawn.

17205 Ryopel.

14379 Rockdale.

7230 Rosemont.

Withdrawn.

14928 Sorrento withdrawn.

3095 St.

Clair, 18050, St.

Louis, 9978 Stahalin.

Motion to concur department findings.

Are there any modifications?

Discussion.

Discussion.

144.7 to 23rd Rosemont was returned to BC.

Any others?

The only one?

Okay.

It's out of objection.

This body will concur with department findings for block 14 with the modification to 144, which is returned to section of BC.

Block 15.

All are demolished unless otherwise noted.

8812 Stopel withdrawn.

14520 Stopel.

13445 Tacoma withdrawn.

1546 Trinity.

Motion to concur.

Motion.

That objection this body will discuss it.

Mr.

Administration.

I'd like to go on record and say building 102 for the demo.

Oh, you want us to be more specific?

Yeah.

Motion to add to 15 number 93704 West Warren add building number two.

Number two.

To that description.

Yeah.

For incorporation into the minutes.

EAD 102.

Madam Member Waters, can you make that motion?

Um to make that modification.

30 30 37 3704 West Warren Building Number 2.

Yeah, 102, yeah.

Building number 102.

Yeah.

All right.

Three uh motion to demolish 3704 West Warren building number 102.

We don't want to demolish the wrong building.

That's all right.

All right, madam clerk.

Do you have that modification for the minutes?

All right.

Without objection, this body will concur department findings as modified for number for block 15, number 9, 3704 West Warren to add the text.

Building number 102.

That objection, that motion will pass.

Our final block 16.

15781 Wildermere demolished.

19516 Winthrop demolished.

At this time, the chair entertained motion to concur department findings, pending any changes.

Are there any changes to that block?

Motion to concur.

Without changes, this body will concur department findings for block 16.

Thank you.

We need any save rounds.

Anything left?

Mr.

Chair.

We do have Ms.

Duncan.

Um one caller who raised their hand again.

Let's go back to that caller.

Okay.

This will be Motorola.

Motorola, can you hear us?

We cannot hear you.

Motorola, can you can you speak up?

Can you unmute yourself?

They are unmuted.

Uh Mr.

Chair, they just we can speak.

Oh boy.

Okay.

Member Waters.

All right.

So Motorola, David and David, if you can hear me, please email me, first and foremost, council member waters at Detroit Mi.gov.

Council Member Waters at Detroit MI.gov or call my office right now and say that you were online and you could not get through at 313.

6282363.

Again, the numbers 313 628 2363.

Thank you.

Thank you, Member Waters.

Um, and through yourself to LPD.

This is a unique situation that if someone is on the line, they're here to do what we've asked, but they can't get through just based on some type of technical difficulty.

Is there any redress?

Um, if they wish to challenge the the dangerous buildings finding if one of these buildings that we've ordered demolished today.

I would I would assume that they could follow the channels to challenge the demolition of their property that they would prior to this this hearing.

Patel uh thank you uh Mr.

Chad uh the they have to sew the property that property secured maintained uh registered part of the control or they have the the applied for the permission okay so if you are still are they still online yes mr chair and they're unmuted so collars you are unmuted if you can talk please talk at any time now uh please contact member waters she's made a request to uh contact oh it sounds like there may be somebody well one of them called the office and he said uh 3704 West Warren uh said he hasn't been able to be heard in the meeting he said he has um 90 percent done and supplied pictures to the inspector he needs to board up the door and so 3704 West Warren oh that's the the number one zero two so he did call in he's basically gotten everything done except boarding up the door inspector so I'd like to um reconsider the motion motion for uh 159 um and return 1593 seven oh four to the jurisdiction of b seed madam waters let's make sure we do this correctly then so what we're looking to do and I'm gonna go to LPD for this is because the the person has called in we'll we'll give the benefit of the doubt is what I'm hearing and we'd like to the motion will be to reconsider block 15 to concur department findings and then the motion would be to return jurisdiction of B seed for number 159 yes so that be the proper procedure here of course I have to reconsider my motion so you have to well hold on someone looking listen looking for directions I would I would assume I would uh suggest that we get some some opinion from the legal department or from B seed's director about that well we're time is of the essence this point so we'll go ahead and do it if we're wrong then we'll we'll figure it out later that we'll go that direction unless you have a uh a strong objections why we shouldn't I'm gonna leave it to the chair all right all right so here's my motion because I don't want to have to all that legal moreau and all that stuff so uh my motion is to reconsider uh 15 block 15 number nine which is three seven zero four West Warren uh number building number one zero two that objection that motion will pass all right so my motion now is to send uh from block fifteen number nine three seven zero four West Warren number one zero two back to the jurisdiction of B seed until October 20th that objection block 15 number nine will be returned jurisdiction of B seed motion to concur department findings motion that objections by concur department finds for block 15 member water any additional um no uh nobody else sent the uh center nobody else called the office per staff okay all right any say rounds beyond this one all right anything else member waters um thank you mr chairman all right with that without anything else that's coming before this body this meeting will stand adjourned