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Detroit City Council Regular Session – September 16, 2025

City CouncilTuesday, September 16, 2025
BodyDetroit, Michigan
SessionCity Council
DateTuesday, September 16, 2025
StatusFILED
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0:04

Present.

0:07

Mary Walters.

0:08

President.

0:11

Councilmember Angela Woodfield Callaway.

0:15

Cosmic McColleman Young the second.

0:18

Here.

0:20

Council Pro Tim James Tate.

0:24

And Cos President Mary Sheffield.

0:28

You have a call present, Mr.

0:29

President.

0:30

Thank you, Madam Clerk.

0:32

We'll just like someone you want to say.

0:35

Okay.

0:41

Um let everybody know that the members, uh, honorable Fred Durhal uh from District 7 as well as the honorable council president and no, I'm sorry, our uh district seven, sir, Fred Durha will be excused.

0:53

Uh I just want to say I have noticed his heart is here.

0:56

I want the clerk to be able to recognize that.

1:00

As well as uh oh no calloway is already here.

1:04

All right, so all right.

1:06

So now we will begin with the induction of the clergy.

1:09

We have with us today Deputy Chief Charleston Day.

1:13

He will start us with the morning prayer as soon as he is promoted.

1:19

He will be recognized, and we begin with the prayer.

1:25

President, I do not see him online.

1:30

Does that mean he's not here, or does that mean like we just so it's somebody else?

1:37

He's supposed to be online.

1:38

I do not see his his name online though.

1:41

Okay.

1:42

So, like I was saying earlier, the supposed to be me, he's not gonna be here at all.

1:46

He ghost us or I was told he's logging on now.

1:52

Is he doing like a little late morning surprise up there?

1:57

I was told that he's logging on now.

2:01

Okay, if not, um I do believe um Mr.

2:04

Chair is a um ordained minister.

2:06

Did you really just put me on the spot like that?

2:08

Did you really put me on the spot like that?

2:11

Correct me if I uh no no, you know, you're not wrong.

2:14

I just you know a little communication, I mean I mean, I didn't prepare to do Minister Coleman Young the prayer today.

2:26

You are equipped to do all right, whatever all right, everybody.

2:33

I'm a little bit rest here.

2:34

Uh go ahead, bow your heads, close your eyes.

2:39

Uh, we just want to say thank you so much for all the wonderful opportunity for us to be here today.

2:44

Thank you for the opportunity for us to be safe in these tumultuous and turbulent times.

2:50

We know that there is nothing that we can't do without believing in you, as you said in your word, that there that all things are possible through him who believes.

2:59

And uh, we just wanted to say thank you so much for the opportunity for us to be able to add value to those, to serve those, to be hope for the hopeless, the voice for the voiceless, and understand that power is only important as the use to serve the powerless with.

3:13

It is our great honor and privilege to be able to uplift people in the city of Detroit and to build a government that loves them as much as they love the city of Detroit.

3:23

Thank you for the honor.

3:24

Please bless us as we go about our day, uplifting people and using the power of public service to improve the lives of the citizens that we are governing over.

3:35

Thank you and God bless.

3:37

Amen.

3:39

Thank you.

3:42

I was hoping I did well.

3:46

Turn the cell phones off.

3:49

Or put or at least put them on vibrant.

3:51

Hold on for a minute.

3:55

Chair recognized just surprising pleasantly uh pleased.

4:01

We have two ordained ministers on council.

4:04

Yes, uh, number one, and then Madam President.

4:08

Is there something?

4:09

I thank you.

4:11

I appreciate that.

4:13

Now we have a wonderful presentation from the honorable Gabriela Santiago Romero now and recognize her for that presentation.

4:24

Thank you, Mr.

4:25

Chair.

4:25

Good morning, everyone.

4:27

It's good to see you all.

4:28

Thanks for being here.

4:29

Today's a very exciting day.

4:31

Um, it is my pleasure uh to present today a testimonial resolution for Transportation Writers United.

4:38

Everyone, give them a round of applause.

4:42

They are better known as True, and True was born intentionally through informal meetings and local coffee shops and around around the region, where engaged residents acknowledge the need for quality, reliable transportation in order to go to and from work to school to the grocery store to visit friends and family.

5:02

The heart built broad, diverse coalition of individuals, organizations, and elected officials, in addition to their educational and outreach efforts, have helped to advocate and achieve their mission of getting equitable transits.

5:18

In fact, they sustained and in fact, sustained organizing yields many accomplishments.

5:23

We have seen them here at the council table as well.

5:26

They are working between D DOT and SMART, trying to make sure that we have routes that work together to streamline ridership across the region.

5:35

True has also advocated for more bus terminals for our disability community, and they have been seen as instrumental in achieving even more feedback for DOTs.

5:47

True has fought to keep DDOT buses rolling during bankruptcy, led the fight to expand public transit throughout all of Oakland County in 2022 and built expansive support.

6:00

More than 1,000 media appearances, going over 350 presentations.

6:05

Many of us have seen them, educating over 20,000 people, and spearheading more than 18,000 advocacy actions.

6:14

True has gone above and beyond what one traditionally considers public transit advocacy, engaging not just on the bus system, but focusing on transportation holistically and equitably, and as such are engaged on a roadway, a design, rapid transit, cycling, and overall multimodal assessment approach to helping people get around.

6:36

Thank you.

6:37

Let it be resolved that councilwoman Gabriela Santiago Romero in the Detroit City Council hereby congratulates and thank Transportation Riders United United for educating, mobilizing, and advocating for a more and better public transit system to make sure that everyone in the Detroit region is able to access.

6:59

Congratulations on your 25th anniversary.

7:02

True.

7:07

I'm gonna ask if you wouldn't mind sharing a few words.

7:10

I know there's an event coming up as well, uh, where this will be presented in celebration of 25 years of advocacy.

7:18

Thank you for being here and for doing your work.

7:21

Just make sure the microphone is on.

7:22

It's gonna be right at the bottom of the mic there.

7:27

Hello, and thank you so much for those very kind words.

7:30

Uh as you well know, transportation, public transportation is a very complicated issue.

7:35

Uh, and I know you guys regularly struggle uh to figure out how to best support uh the residents that need it so much.

7:43

Uh I'm so proud to have the honor of of direct uh of being the director of True, uh, but it truly is a community effort.

7:52

Um, you guys probably know Cunningham even better uh than you may know Joel and I as staff.

7:58

Um, certainly folks like uh Patty Fidoa and and many others are uh regular parts of making this this effort work.

8:09

Um we are so proud to be carrying on the legacy uh and to continue the effort at the local, regional, and uh state and even occasionally federal levels uh to fight for more and better public transportation.

8:21

Um I would love to extend the invite to to each of you and to uh anyone watching.

8:26

We are hosting a 25th anniversary gala uh next Thursday, September 25th, uh, bringing together uh uh hundreds of partners, allies, uh decision makers like yourselves, agency leaders, uh to all celebrate the the ongoing effort of uh improving public transportation.

8:47

So uh thank you so much for the recognition uh for the the partnerships and the listening over uh over so many years.

8:55

Uh and we look forward to continuing to work with you as we fight to to double D dot and to ensure every Detroiter has reliable affordable transportation.

9:06

Thank you.

9:06

Thank you.

9:10

Thank you.

9:11

And I do want to say how you make our jobs easier, actually.

9:16

When you come in when you advocate and when you push the way that you do, when you bring Detroiters to public comments during the budget cycle, you give us then the opportunity, the backing to say, look, this is what's coming directly from residents, this is what they want.

9:30

So thank you for your advocacy.

9:32

It truly does make it easier for us than to come and ask for big things at the table.

9:36

Uh so I encourage you to continue to do that.

9:38

Um, and that is it for me.

9:40

Not sure if anyone else has any anything else to share.

9:43

If not, um, I believe we'll take a quick picture all together while you're while we're here.

9:48

Um and we can do some now.

9:49

That's okay with you, Mr.

9:50

Chair.

9:51

Does anybody else have any other comments?

9:54

Questions?

9:54

Sorry, Chair Organizing Benson.

9:57

Thank you, and uh, thanks for that.

10:00

Chair does anybody else have any other comments questions chair member Benson thank you and uh thank you for that um council um chair for public health and safety we do appreciate that and we see you all on a regular basis you all come and you advocate I've known you for a number of years we did the boss's uh ride buses challenge I wish you all would bring that back and give my colleagues the opportunity to uh take a bus um via to different counties just to kind of see what riders see and I appreciate the advocacy that you have here Mr.

10:24

Cunningham who also the strong advocate for uh public transit and we've got the opportunity to work with the good doctor on our last uh bus challenge when we went with Mr.

10:33

Cunningham so just really a big supporter true and glad that uh you all are receiving this uh these accolades and looking forward to seeing you all next week as well thank you excellent man of clerk uh before we uh move on with the the uh formal session business I want to say I also forgot to ask uh for uh the excuse of tardiness for uh the council president as well so I just want to make sure that we did that she's on our way thank you so no any other questions comments or concerns did you want to okay so now we will go up to the front for pictures and uh look forward to it oh okay okay thank you for a picture thank you of course that is so it is we have everything right now uh is there emotion but oh oh I'm sorry no no no no no no go ahead all right every time I leave it we'll be back uh uh is there a motion to approve the journal for last session all right all right uh we will now move on to the the president's report on standing committee and referrals for other matters for the budget finance audit and standing committee we pull for this policy division thank you member all right good morning and thank you again council uh member young so the one report will be referred to budget finance and audit for the for the internal operations standing committee for we put some various departments the four reports will be referred to committee for the planning and economic development standing committee well we'll put some various departments before reports will be referred to the planning and economic development standing committee for the public health and safety standing committee from various departments the 20 reports will be referred to the public health and safety standing committee

15:01

The four reports will be referred to committee for the planning and economic development standing committee.

15:13

Before reports will be referred to the planning and economic development standing committee for the public health and safety standing committee.

15:20

Planning reports from various city departments.

15:30

Under voting action matters.

15:32

There are no items, Madam President.

15:33

Under other matters.

15:37

Under communications from the mayor and other governmental officials and agencies.

15:49

And we will start with those who have joined us in person.

15:53

Miss Branetta Moore.

15:55

Everyone will have two minutes for public comment.

16:00

Good morning.

16:01

How y'all doing?

16:02

I'm here because I'm here because I was at cash community, but I'm not now, but I'm at NSO.

16:13

It's a better facility.

16:15

I like it.

16:16

But the only thing I have a problem with, my stuff had got stolen.

16:21

I should have asked, could I go to the clothing room?

16:25

They told me no.

16:26

A young lady told me today she seen somebody with my stuff on.

16:31

I don't think that's right.

16:33

They should have replaced it.

16:34

I had to go and get some more stuff to replace the stuff I already had.

16:39

I don't think that was right.

16:43

So I think um they should have simply let me go into the clothing room to get more clothes, but they would okay.

16:54

Thank you so much, Miss Moore.

16:55

And again, we are here to support and help if we need uh to continue to assist you.

17:01

Thank you so much, Miss Moore.

17:02

And we're gonna also cut off our public comment for this morning.

17:06

Miss Betty Lyons, followed by Brenda Allen.

17:12

True.

17:14

Knowledge is power and can be dangerous, but why is counsel keeping this knowledge in the dark, keeping Dugan safe from what he is supposed to be able to answer to?

17:28

Where is that over 600 million dollars overpaid property tax belonging to Detroit residents?

17:37

Where is it?

17:39

And he should be made to answer to that because he coveted that money, he and his friend Dana Nessel, who in Washington DC is called an election thug.

17:53

THUG, an election thug.

17:57

So they both have dirty hands and need to be to answer to that injustice to the Detroit people.

18:05

Attorneys Whitaker Anderson, Conrad, Mallet, they won't even help the Detroit residents receive what belongs to them, so they are in the same boat and in the same bed of Satan.

18:20

Last week, Mr.

18:22

Crowley's part of his comments were static and muted.

18:28

His time was not restored.

18:30

So it appears that Ms.

18:32

Love is right about the tricks of the council.

18:37

Duggan and friend wash.

18:42

Oh, okay.

18:43

Uh Detroit residents, justice again should be honored to them.

18:49

Follow the money.

18:50

That's all you have to do.

18:52

Where is that money?

18:54

And council is going to be accounted for doing the evil of denying Detroit residents the justice they deserve.

19:03

While Mexican town is protecting illegals, yeah, troop is doing what's right.

19:09

Send those illegals back to their illegal countries.

19:22

Brenda Allen followed by Miss Williams.

19:27

Yes, good morning.

19:28

My name is Brenda Allen.

19:30

I'm here in reference to Coleman A.

19:33

Young the second.

19:34

He helped a little bit louder.

19:36

I'm sorry.

19:37

Oh, can you hear me now?

19:38

Yes, we can hear you.

19:39

I'm sorry.

19:40

Yes, I'm here on behalf of Coleman A.

19:42

Young the second.

19:44

He helped me with my roof.

19:45

I'm a senior citizen on a fixed income, and no one else would help me but him.

19:50

So I'm just want to acknowledge the fact that he really helped me with this because I needed some assistance right away.

20:00

And um, he was the only one that would read out and help me.

20:02

Praise God for that.

20:04

And I just want to let everyone know how he is a good councilman, and he reaches out to the residents of the city of Detroit.

20:12

Thank you.

20:13

Okay, thank you as well.

20:16

Miss Williams, followed by Melissa Love.

20:19

Good morning.

20:20

Um, last week was 9-11, and the chief got up and spoke about the he have the best Detroit in the country.

20:28

So how's that possible when they have illegal immigrants, ex-offenders, killers, rapists, and these officers that have these shields are around our base.

20:44

The city of Detroit taxpayers citizens need to know that what's really going on on the Detroit police department.

20:53

So a sex offender have to umce a year register on a sex offender list.

21:01

They around the schools, the parks, these are the ones that partake the serve, but they guys fake names, like I said, illegal immigrants, murderers, rapists.

21:14

Now, how's that possible?

21:16

I came down here two weeks ago talking about the same issue.

21:20

But two weeks ago, an ex-offender came into my window on the Detroit police department and work at the third priest.

21:28

When I leave here, I'll be going to eternal affairs.

21:31

This is not acceptable.

21:32

You all are your job is to make sure the citizens of Detroit is taken care of.

21:39

That's your responsibility.

21:40

If you all cannot do this job, you don't need to have this position, period.

21:45

It's unfortunate that the taxpayers, no matter how much money they pay, they still paying taxes.

21:51

They need to know the truth.

21:52

You all sit up here every day, lie constantly.

21:56

When you can see or cover up illegal activities, that is conspiracy, and you continue to lie every day from the top to the bottom.

22:06

So, what you guys gonna do about this?

22:08

Because, like I said, ex-offenders on the Detroit police department with fake names with the same fingerprints that we were born with.

22:18

Thank you very much and have a great day.

22:21

Thank you, Miss Williams.

22:24

Melissa Love, followed by Ramon Jackson.

22:28

Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk.

22:30

I will endure to the end, like he did.

22:33

Election fall is real.

22:35

I'm Melissa Love never voted, November 2020 or August 2024, and I'm here boldly to demand my name off the voter rolls and demand our resources back and to collect my share off the pot.

22:46

Y'all been stealing from.

22:47

I will not be silenced and justice will be served.

22:50

And I will not stop.

22:51

I will not stop exposing this evil corruption.

22:54

I will continue to stand for what's right and what's mine.

22:56

I will continue to fight for children this ability.

22:59

I will not be silenced.

23:01

Y'all will be held accountable.

23:03

Where's our representation at?

23:05

I sit here every week and watch y'all give out millions of dollars in contracts outside of Detroit.

23:10

And the same contracts y'all giving away, we have those same individuals that's ready and equipped for the contracts in the city of Detroit.

23:19

But yet we are overlooked again.

23:21

Black people, if you listen, y'all need to stand up, stand bow and the ban these contracts.

23:26

Contracts that will make you well.

23:29

Every day I go to the suburban areas when I see new grocery stores, whereas Detroit grocery stores.

23:35

Are y'all forcing us out of Detroit?

23:38

Is it people in Detroit that's not fortunate to drive, but still need to get groceries?

23:46

Y'all are forcing Detroit to stay in poverty.

23:49

Detroit community is sinking, and y'all got the resources, but won't do it.

23:53

But when it comes to election time, y'all put on a mask and even mock God to win the election.

23:59

But this time it won't work.

24:00

The wicked time is over.

24:02

It's time for the righteous to win.

24:04

There will be a massive wealth transfer.

24:15

Residents in the city of Detroit.

24:17

My name is Ramon Jackson.

24:18

I was here last week with these USBs.

24:23

We obtained these USBs from the Detroit Election Department.

24:27

This is who they say voted in the August 5th election.

24:31

Now let me clarify this.

24:34

The people that's voted, the hundreds of people that's voting from the county jail, Mary Waters.

24:40

They have the county jail address.

24:43

Okay.

24:44

So we both was aware that they you can vote as a pretrial detainee, but you cannot use the county jail address.

24:51

So now my position is that those are fraudulent votes.

24:55

You made a comment last week.

24:57

I leave it to you.

25:00

Could they vote using the county jail address?

25:01

Mayor Waters.

25:04

Could they vote using the county jail address?

25:07

5301 Russell.

25:09

Could they vote using the county jail address?

25:11

That's a question to you.

25:28

So we're gonna let you finish your public comment and then if she wants to finish the answer, she can answer right now.

25:33

Well, I'm gonna leave my I'm gonna leave my time to Miss Waters to answer that question since she has something to say last week.

25:40

Okay, all right.

25:41

That's the end of the public comment.

25:43

Did you have anything, Member Waters?

25:46

Just say something here to Mr.

25:48

Jackson.

25:48

Well, last week you did not indicate that it was a county jail address.

25:53

So that's my comment for today.

25:55

I'm saying it right now.

25:56

So what's your position now?

25:58

We're not gonna be able to go back to the case.

25:59

What's your position now?

26:01

We're gonna stop and not go back and forth.

26:04

Right, Ramon, that's the end of your time.

26:06

And member Warbins, if you like to respond, you can gang Mary Waters.

26:10

Not gonna go back and forth.

26:15

Were you done, Member Waters?

26:16

Yeah.

26:16

Okay.

26:17

All right.

26:18

Uh Jocelyn Jackson.

26:21

Followed by Joshua Lemere.

26:25

Good morning, City Council.

26:27

I'm here again.

26:29

I was back, I was here back in June about the vendoring in downtown Detroit.

26:34

I've been a vendor down in campus marshes.

26:37

I've been down here since 1996.

26:39

I feel we should be able to be grandfathered, and they've letting a company come, Glowworks.

26:45

I come and take over campus marshal for the tree lighting.

26:49

They did tell me someone would contact with me within two weeks from the last time I was here in June.

26:56

No one has contacted me.

26:58

This company, I've I've been with them since they were they got here in 06 when they opened up.

27:06

I've been patronizing them all this time.

27:09

They go behind our back, take the campus marshes from us.

27:13

We can't do anything about it.

27:15

The city is not protecting us, they're not helping us any kind of way.

27:19

Uh they threaten to throw my belongings out of campus marshes.

27:23

I asked them where they think that I was gonna be doing why they were doing that.

27:27

So it's like it's it's become a problem.

27:31

And I've watched him build his business all of this time and take it.

27:37

He had the daughter in 06.

27:39

I watched them take her all on all over the world on vacations and everything, and I can't take my grandkids nowhere but Bell out because the city's not protecting my rights as a vendor here.

27:53

And with Tate, I if you can remember back in 07, my son was murdered.

28:00

You were on the case, you told me someone would get with me about that.

28:05

It's been 18 years that has not been solved.

28:08

So I don't know where do I turn if I can't depend on my city where I was born and raised to help me to solve any of these problems.

28:20

That's it.

28:21

Okay, thank you so much.

28:22

Um, I we did um get a response.

28:25

My team just forwarded to me from BC um regarding your situation, particularly.

28:30

And so if it's possible, um, we can step aside while you're here um and have the department go over uh the questions that were submitted to them.

28:39

I know um the question regarding grandfathering in long-term vendors was addressed in the memo, they did indicate that that was not an option, but I do think it'd be best if um someone from my team can call BC while she's here um and go over the memo that was submitted with the specific questions regarding their situation.

28:57

Um that would be I think that would be the best appropriate way to move forward at this time.

29:01

December tree light.

29:03

You had a question there.

29:04

Thank you, President.

29:05

Ma'am, I I want to excuse ma'am.

29:09

Ma'am.

29:10

Yeah, but I want to send condolences uh for your loss.

29:13

I'm I'm not sure in terms of that communication in the past because I was not a detective.

29:17

So there are many individuals who confuse me with a former I'm saying I was I was in charge of mayor how do we was in charge of the office of public information, so I was the one who gave the information to the public.

29:31

But many times they confuse me with a actual commander who has the same initials, uh, who work for the police department as well, and others once they became aware recognize that that's the case.

29:42

What I'm gonna do is have someone from my team come down, get your information.

29:46

We're gonna walk over and uh communicate with the police department, see how we can revive that that uh that case again if you have not gotten information.

29:55

You you may have it in other capacities, but I will guarantee you in that situation.

30:00

I was I was not a sworn police officer.

30:02

Okay.

30:03

So we just all right, thank you.

30:08

Joshua Lamir.

30:12

Good morning, council, citizens of Detroit, Joshua Lamir, rabbi in training, the people's mayor for the 48203 statistical area.

30:20

Um, I just had a quick query, a quick question.

30:24

There's this beautiful pocket park that used to be owned by the Department of Natural Resources.

30:29

I think it's technically um a part of the the state fairgrounds.

30:35

It's uh it's tax-free.

30:37

And uh the parcel number in question is uh let's see, 2000 Woodward Avenue.

30:44

It's a beautiful um bird sanctuary, but unfortunately it's been uh you know in in disrepair for the last 10 to 15 years.

30:52

So I was just wondering if we could uh allocate some funds to keep the birds flying, because that's like the only patch of grass left on uh on that side of of Woodward Avenue again.

31:05

That's uh I want to say 2000 uh um Woodward Avenue, and it's uh beautiful in its current state, but with uh a couple extra dollars, I think it could be uh a great addition for all the people that uh walk and take the bus on that side of uh Woodward Avenue.

31:23

And uh just on a closing note, I want it forever on the record that uh Mr.

31:27

Simpson, I have my Birkin stocks on.

31:30

But uh thank you guys so much.

31:32

And uh I wanted to thank Angela Callaway too.

31:34

I don't know where she went.

31:36

Uh she did such a great job uh representing us over in Grixdale, and I'm looking forward to uh being represented by District Three.

31:44

So with that, uh happy Tuesday.

31:46

See you guys later.

31:47

Thank you.

31:54

Mr.

31:55

Cunningham, followed by Pastor Sewell, followed by Grace Howard.

32:06

313, 444-9114, 313-444-9114, 313-444-9114.

32:14

That number was made, so you can remember it.

32:16

And on Facebook, not enemy.

32:19

In regards to transit rider 9 at Thursday, September 25th, 2025, 6 to 10 p.m.

32:26

at the Blasio Banquet and Conference Center.

32:30

Um 2390 West Warren Avenue, uh Dearborn Heights.

32:37

You can Google that.

32:39

Um, and uh it should be a good event.

32:43

Um I appreciate uh this council caring about public transportation, they could do better, but nothing's perfect.

32:52

Um I ride ride around the city.

32:58

I have like outreach vehicle, taxi cab, giving out bus tickets and water at this time, hand warmers, gloves in the winter times, and I get an earful from the constituent.

33:10

Uh the Woodward has been our weights, the Jefferson.

33:16

I don't know what's going on, but it's kind of fallen off a little bit some of these routes.

33:21

Um I believe we might be, I think we're having a uh advocates meeting with the director via Zoom today, and I'm gonna bring that up to them.

33:32

Um a lot of time the constituents state, you guys know already it's not gonna help anything.

33:40

They feel downtrodden, they don't want to advocate for themselves.

33:45

Um, but I'll keep trying to get new faces and new voices as I always do, and I let them know that y'all don't bite, you know.

33:52

Uh speak up, it makes a difference.

33:56

Um thanks for the bus tickets, the funds for maintaining the outreach vehicle, and I'm praying for you guys, and uh hopefully you praying for me.

34:08

And uh thanks again.

34:11

All right, thank you so much, Mr.

34:12

Cunningham.

34:12

Good to see you.

34:13

Uh member Waters would like to respond.

34:16

Oh, no, no, not to Mr.

34:17

Cunningham, to Mr.

34:19

Jackson who's sitting up there.

34:21

So I'm going to attempt to explain how they can vote from JM.

34:29

They are already registered, they have a home address that they're registered at.

34:33

It makes no sense for the after T ballot to be sent to their home where they're registered.

34:39

It has to be sent to the jail where they're incarcerated.

34:43

That is why you see those addresses.

34:46

I will I will certainly have the clerk to uh explain it a little bit further later, but that's exactly why why you see those uh the the jail address.

34:57

Otherwise, they wouldn't never be able to get the ballot.

35:00

So anyway, thank you, Madam President.

35:02

And member waters, we can have them maybe come and clarify maybe the next session.

35:07

Um that that would be great.

35:09

Thanks.

35:10

Thank you.

35:10

Thank you.

35:11

All right, good morning.

35:12

Pastor Laminzo Sue, Councilwoman Waters, thank you.

35:16

One of the reasons why the law states that they need to actually put their address, the register address, because I can get arrested in Wayne County, but not be able to vote in the city, right?

35:28

If I commit a crime in Wayne County, it doesn't mean I live in the city.

35:32

So therefore, what do I need to put on my absentee ballot?

35:35

I need to put my my permanent address, my primary address.

35:38

And that's where the discrepancy lies in terms of the law.

35:42

That's one of the reasons why we're here because there were 280 people, 281 people that had the address on Russell Street.

35:50

And that's that's a discrepancy.

35:52

And I know you're a woman of integrity, you're a woman that wants to make sure that your votes were clear.

35:57

I would imagine that everyone up here that's running for any elected official, they would want to make sure that they were voted in and not cheated in.

36:03

That's all our concern is.

36:04

We just want to be a voice to the voiceless.

36:06

That's all our concern is.

36:08

So I've had the honor of being in the city now.

36:11

I was born and raised on the east side of Detroit.

36:13

My dad's in prison for murder today.

36:16

And born on uh Lynette 149 from one Lynette on the corner corner of Kilborn in Queen.

36:22

I was uh I was shot at when I was 11 years old.

36:25

And my wife and I have invested over 14 million dollars in this city through partnership with United Way over the last five years.

36:34

We don't take a salary from our local church, we don't take salaries.

36:38

We've invested just out of our own pocket over 200,000 every year out of our own pocket.

36:44

We scholarship young people in university.

36:47

I'm getting taxed for water drainage fees right now.

36:51

And my wife asked me, Councilman Durha, are they gonna take the church from us?

36:57

You imagine that we paid an architect $60,000 to develop land that was given to us, but that land was taken away from us from imminent domain.

37:10

I just want to help build my city, right?

37:12

And I just need your help to be able to do that.

37:14

That's one of the reasons why we think you all have in and not voted in, because it seems like you all are willing to help.

37:22

Thank you.

37:24

Member Durha.

37:26

Thank you, Madam President.

37:28

And first, um, Pastor Sewell, what I will say is know you very well.

37:32

Uh and my office had the ability to assist you uh when you were making the transition to the church, uh, and an issue that you had.

37:41

Uh so I just want to make sure that we put that on the record to say that we don't care.

37:45

Uh is a bit disingenuous because we do.

37:48

Uh, we have helped you uh in that way.

37:50

Uh, and none of that means that someone is cheating in, by the way.

37:54

Um but if you need assistance, I'm gonna I can't go back and forth with you.

37:59

That is your permanent if you if you need assistance in the clerk, uh, you have my personal cell phone though.

38:04

You have everybody's number in my office related to your issue with the drainage fees for your church.

38:10

Reach out to us.

38:11

We haven't heard from you.

38:12

Reach out to us.

38:14

I we don't have an email from you.

38:16

So reach out to us and we'd be happy to assist you as we have done in the past.

38:20

Thank you, madam president.

38:23

All right, thank you.

38:24

Thank you so much.

38:26

Good.

38:27

Okay.

38:29

All right.

38:31

Yeah, we we we'll have the clerk come address uh the rights of those who are um incarcerated and their ability to be able to vote.

38:39

Um, if I do recall, I'm not a hundred percent sure, but when you are at an address for 30 days or more, that becomes your permanent, can be your permanent residence for my understanding, and they can use and claim that place as their residency.

38:53

Um, but the clerk can come and verify that um because there's other people who are in hospitals or other institutions that if they're there 30 days or more, they can claim that as their residency to vote at that particular location.

39:05

But we can always have the clerk come in and clarify that at some excuse me, we're not gonna go back and forth, but we will allow them.

39:13

We we will allow, we excuse me, excuse me, excuse me.

39:17

Okay, Ramon, excuse me.

39:19

I I'm not lying to anyone.

39:20

What we're going to do is we're going to have the clerk come uh and clarify.

39:24

So thank you so much for being here, and we will have uh the clerk clarify the rights of those who are incarcerated to be able to vote.

39:31

Okay.

39:32

All right.

39:33

All right, we're gonna move on now to is it Grace, Grace Howard?

39:38

Good morning, Mayor Sheffield, I pray.

39:43

Um you know why I'm here, the bending situation.

39:48

And I wanted to know exactly how were they able to, I would say probably pay the play.

40:00

They just walked in and laid down some money, and now they're over campus marshes for all of the glow works and things that we sell to make the you know festivities happy for the children.

40:08

And we've been down there, like Miss Johnson said, she's been down there for about 20, 30 years.

40:15

I've been down there 10 years, and we work together.

40:19

We're not fighting each other, we're not monopolizing each other.

40:23

She even showed me how to get you know my license down there.

40:27

And I just wanted to know how were they able to get on the agenda if they were?

40:32

How was this company Glowworks able to come down here and just push us out of our space that we paid for, and we really only make a little money when it's the holiday time, which is the holidays are coming up right now.

40:48

So we weren't put on the agenda.

40:50

I wasn't caught by your um constituent.

40:53

She took my number.

40:54

I lost hers.

40:59

But um, I just wanted to know how were they able to come down and take over what we have been doing for years?

41:05

Gotcha.

41:06

Thank you so much, Miss Grace, for coming down.

41:08

Um, and if you don't mind, I think the department is down here now.

41:12

We have them come down uh because we've been going back and forth on this for quite some time.

41:15

So they're here uh in the lobby.

41:17

If you don't mind stepping out with my who's out there, uh the the department, BC, building safety, engineering, and environmental department.

41:24

Yeah, they gave us our license.

41:26

Right.

41:26

So they want to go over where we are today with your request.

41:29

Um, and I'm going to step aside as well once we get to some of our public comments.

41:33

Okay, okay.

41:34

Thank you.

41:35

Okay, thank you so much.

41:38

All right, uh, Miss Logan.

41:44

Uh, good morning, everyone.

41:46

I'm Barbara Logan here again.

41:48

I come down here whenever I can because I I believe in this democracy, and that the people have a voice.

41:58

So you give us a minute, okay.

42:01

Today is two minutes, a week, and we make a comment, and sometimes depending on whether or not one of you agree with the comment, you make a comment contradicting our comment.

42:23

That's not democracy, it's public comment.

42:27

It's not like you say, a debate.

42:31

So when you we make a comment and you contradict that comment rather than sometimes you do say, okay, we'll discuss it later, or we can set up a meeting, and I think that's the better response is that you set up a meeting later, give us a date and time so that we can discuss it, the issue, rather than you make a comment, and we don't get to respond to your comment about our comment.

43:04

You make a comment and say that's uh that's it.

43:07

We ain't gonna go back and forth.

43:09

That's not fair.

43:11

That's not fair.

43:12

That's an abuse of power.

43:14

Just because you have the power to tell us to shut up after you make a comment contradicting our public comment, it's not fair.

43:24

That's not democracy.

43:25

You switching our voice, you silencing us.

43:30

Last week, uh Councilman uh Young made a comment to a lady who's who was commenting about the the the um ticketing of delinquent delinquency or whatever that is.

43:46

Um, I can't think of it.

43:48

But anyway, that's not democracy, okay.

43:52

Thank you, Miss Logan, Mr.

43:55

Rhino Foster.

44:01

Good morning to the uh president.

44:04

Just a few things.

44:05

One is to just re-emphasize the importance of free speech and consequences thereof, also bring um awareness to political violence.

44:16

Um we are educated.

44:18

If we're not, you can look it up for ourselves and apply it where applicable, but where there's political violence, there will also be political prisoners.

44:27

Well, I'll sympathize for the young man in Utah.

44:30

I empathize for Malcolm X, the family of Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandelba.

44:38

You know, uh who got 27 years for opposing and apartheid government, apartheid is simply defined as a policy and government, a policy of segregation and discrimination on the grounds of race.

45:00

We have to make sure that our community are not and will not become political prisoners.

45:03

Those that oppose racist policies and bigotries.

45:07

We have to protect the speech of those to have those things.

45:11

And so in a quote from Nelson Mandelba in this three hour speech titled, I am prepared to die.

45:19

It says, During my lifetime, I have dedicated myself to this struggle of the African people.

45:24

I fought against white domination and I fought against black domination.

45:29

I've cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons live together in harmony and with equal opportunities.

45:38

It is an ideal which I hope to live for and to achieve.

45:43

But if needs be an ideal for which I am prepared to die.

45:48

Oh quote.

45:53

Thank you, Ms.

45:54

Thank you, Mr.

45:54

Foster.

45:55

That takes us to the end of our in-person public comments.

45:58

We'll now shift online.

46:00

Good morning to all those who've joined us online.

46:05

Morning, Mr.

46:06

President.

46:07

There were 14 hands raised before public comment was cut off.

46:11

And the first caller is William M.

46:13

Davis.

46:14

William M.

46:14

Davis, the floor is yours.

46:15

Two minutes, general public comment.

46:17

Good morning.

46:18

Can I be heard?

46:19

Yes.

46:21

I like to start off by saying I am appalled at Mayor Duggan proposal to use a surplus funds to cover tax revenue declines.

46:31

You know, I think perhaps the city of Detroit and the mayor should look at all these debates and exemptions they give these millionaires and billionaires.

46:40

Up under his administration, over 3400 city Detroit retirees, general fund retirees have died.

46:49

And he doesn't seem like he cares.

46:51

He doesn't seem like he wants to do anything for seniors, retirees or poor people in the city.

46:58

His main focus appears to be and continues to be to help millionaires and billionaires.

47:18

You know, how in the heck can you not call back these millionaires and billionaires to renege on that promises and their agreements?

47:27

This reducing the tax revenues, you know, the reducing stuff that they should be doing, but not doing anything to help, you know, the city of Detroit was able to defer like 100 to 150 million dollars a year for over 10 years.

47:44

While more and more city of Detroit retirees die, I make a prediction that Mayor Duggan, not only will he not be governor, get elected governor next year, but I make a prediction that once we start circulating all the 100 failures of his administration.

48:04

You know, he'd be lucky to be elected dog catcher.

48:08

Have a good day.

48:11

Next caller, please.

48:14

The next caller is to Hira Ahmed.

48:16

Right, caller, the floor is yours.

48:18

Two minutes, general public comment.

48:27

Ditto.

48:28

Um, Mr.

48:29

Uh uh well, the last caller.

48:33

I dedicate this public comment to Miller and our Neil Curry killed by Barry Sheffield and Mike Duggan from your pro-homelessness policy.

48:43

Mike Duggan, another surplus every year.

48:47

You report millions of dollars and surpluses.

48:49

That's our 600 million dollars.

48:51

You ripped off thief and hand it over.

48:55

Your secret fund money, aka progress fund.

48:59

That's our money.

49:00

Hand it over.

49:00

That's part of our 600 million dollars.

49:03

That's our money, Mike Dugan.

49:05

It's the Bernie Mato's made off of Detroit.

49:08

You owe Detroit homeowners a billion dollars, you crooked or all community organizations and all voters.

49:17

Do not vote for people that rip you off.

49:19

That's Mary Sheffield and Mike Duggan, who endorsed her.

49:23

He wants the same, they're going to do the same thing.

49:26

You ain't if you elect Mary Sheffield as mayor, you're gonna get the same thing you get now.

49:32

You elect Mike Duggan as governor, you're gonna get the same thing statewide as you get today.

49:37

Detroit voters, don't fall for it.

49:40

Mary Sheffield, you're complicit in the looting of black wealth, helping Mike Duggan, Bernie Madoff Duggan, uh to steal our money.

49:49

And I'm we're demanding you sit down, Mary Sheffield, and pick out your pencil and paper, add up all these surpluses, and come up with a payment per month, per week, and pay us back.

50:05

You don't deserve to be mayor if you're not gonna pay the people back.

50:09

It's about righteousness, it's about justice.

50:11

You ain't no pants or more minister if you do this to the poor people.

50:16

Uh Jesus threw out the money changers and the temple.

50:21

We need to throw you out.

50:32

Caller, please.

50:33

The next caller is Stephen Haring.

50:37

Yeah, that was such trap.

50:38

That was that was all I don't even know what to say, but um so why I'm calling.

50:46

I've been really being calling since I moved to Miami.

50:49

Um, but why I'm calling, and I have to call is the Palestine conference a couple weeks ago.

50:56

You know, you guys gotta know there were terrorists eating at that conference.

51:00

There was, you know, there were people chanting for Israel's to be eliminated.

51:08

I mean, there was some horrific terroristic stuff going on, and you know, I support a ceasefire.

51:15

I'm totally against the net in Yahoo and what's going on there, but you know, people need to know there's a difference between Zionism and Zionist nationalism.

51:26

Um, and obviously what's going on now is Zionist nationalism.

51:31

You know, Israel has its right to exist, you know, as a two-state solution.

51:36

But you know, that conference was out of hand.

51:38

That should that conference shouldn't never happen.

51:41

And you know, I'm hoping that it will not happen in Detroit.

51:45

You know, it was embarrassing for the city, and it also um it makes people think that you know Detroit's not a welcoming place, you know.

51:54

Miami, that conference would never even go near Miami, yeah.

52:00

And um, lastly, Ramon Jackson should probably know about prisoners vote because he spent like 10 years in prison for drug dealing.

52:08

So he probably knows how the process works.

52:11

And I want to thank um uh Harry Waters for easily debunking that.

52:16

Uh and that's the rest of my time.

52:22

All right, thank you.

52:23

Next caller, please.

52:26

The next caller is phone number ending in 169.

52:36

Um, hello, can you guys hear me?

52:38

Yes.

52:40

Okay, great, great.

52:41

Um, I know from looking at um, I know from looking at Cunningham's Facebook page, Cunningham loves God.

52:48

Cunningham loves God, Cunningham loves God, Cunningham loves God.

52:53

Um, keep your joy, Cunningham.

52:55

Everybody under the sound of my voice.

52:57

You are only in it for the money.

52:59

Brother Cunningham does this stuff out of the out of out of love.

53:04

Sun up, sundown, sun up, sundown.

53:07

Pennyham needs bus tickets, he needs gift cards, he needs finances to maintain his vehicle.

53:14

Some of you get 50k, some of you get 100k.

53:17

If you wasn't getting the salary, you would give up the work.

53:21

Many of you listening right now should go out of your way to help people.

53:25

I notice looking back over Cunningham's Facebook page.

53:28

It looks like his enemies have stole his smile.

53:31

Lastly, on his Facebook page, I've seen him and his mom receiving communion.

53:36

And I just want y'all to keep him in prayer.

53:38

Thank you for my time.

53:40

Thank you.

53:41

Let's call it please.

53:44

The next caller is owner Papa.

53:50

The floor is yours, two minutes.

53:51

General public comment.

53:59

Are you there?

54:04

All right, let's go to the next call and put that caller at the end of the queue, please.

54:08

Okay.

54:09

The next caller is Darren McCluskey.

54:12

Darren McCluskey, the floor is yours.

54:13

Two minutes, General Public Comment.

54:21

Morning, Council.

54:24

Morning.

54:28

That's really quick.

54:29

Your time will not begin.

54:32

I'm chopping up.

54:36

Your time is out again.

54:38

Okay.

54:38

Good morning, council, and good morning, Council President Ms.

54:41

Sheffield.

54:42

It was very nice to see you last Thursday at your event.

54:44

It was very pleasant.

54:46

I'm glad there's so much excitement going around your mayoral run.

54:50

So I renovate houses.

54:52

Sometimes I sell them, sometimes I rent them from the upper peninsula to downriver.

54:56

I flipped at least a dozen homes.

55:00

Um, and I have dozens of other rentals.

55:01

It's only in Core City that I have to factor in a unique cost of doing business.

55:05

You see, one out of three of our houses get scrapped during the renovations.

55:10

They take out $8,500 worth of HVAC and plumbing, and then they get about a thousand dollars at the scrapyard for it.

55:18

The police don't care, they shrug, they uh they move on.

55:22

It's just the normal cost of doing business.

55:23

And you guys think that solar panels are gonna just sit in these neighborhoods and be untouched.

55:29

You're removing streets and stomping out the last of the people who held firm with all this craziness going around them.

55:36

I have a message from Maria to Sisma in one of the neighborhoods.

55:40

That's just appalling.

55:42

If I had more time, I would read more of it.

55:44

But essentially, she states they said we've had no public, we would have no public access to 911, no streets, no power, because all the power lines are being torn down.

55:54

They told us our streets are gonna be out and torn up, they will have no city services, we have no choice, and if we try to fight them, we'll lose our money.

56:02

So in the meantime, your consultants and your law firm made shirts for themselves saying that they are fab.

56:12

You should ask them about it, and you're gonna have to excuse my language because what those shirts actually mean is what one of your Detroit City residents called them, and that's that they are fake ass bitches.

56:26

Next caller, please.

56:28

Hope you're proud of yourself.

56:30

Next caller, please.

56:33

The next caller is Galaxy S22 Ultra.

56:37

And caller, the floor is yours.

56:38

You have two minutes.

56:40

Yeah, um, I just want to uh call in.

56:43

I've been calling for contracts, and I talk with my city council, Letitia Johnson.

56:49

She she's been talking with me, but it's not going anywhere.

56:54

I'm not going anywhere.

56:56

I'm I'm I'm like the the young lady that just called uh uh a couple of calls ago.

57:04

Is it the betty or uh the one was talking about campus marsh or how they put people out?

57:11

You guys tell us we can get vendor license, but you stick us in the uh like our might will say in the alley.

57:16

We want to be where the crowd is.

57:19

Y'all give everybody contracts, the white corporate people contracts to come to the city, but we paying the taxes and everything in this city, and they bring their behind here and get contracts like we can't uh uh uh uh sale in our own city, and then if we do, you want to put us in a neighborhood when you put all of them downtown, but you raise our damn property taxes and thanks up.

57:43

It's sad that we have to go through that.

57:46

Y'all y'all shouldn't do us like that.

57:48

Y'all supposed to be for a foot.

57:50

We put you in office so you can help us in the city of Detroit.

57:55

You guys are not helping us by what you're doing to us.

57:59

We we hear stuff.

58:00

You say you'll get back with us.

58:02

I've been waiting on somebody from my council office to uh get information about the the um the thing they put over in uh over in Chandler Park.

58:12

I talked to them last week, they supposed to get out with me yesterday.

58:15

I haven't heard nothing.

58:16

We just get spent like a spinotop, and we've been coming down there for for years and talking with different city council.

58:25

There should be a uh uh uh uh a term limit if you guys ain't gonna do your job.

58:30

We need fresh meat in there.

58:32

Everybody wants to run, but let's fight for the people.

58:36

You got a few that's on there fighting for the people, but we need all y'all to fight for us in the city of Detroit because you took on that responsibility.

58:47

Next caller, please.

58:49

Oh, I'm sorry, member Johnson.

58:51

Before you proceed, um to Mr.

58:53

Holloway.

58:54

Um I know we spoke about vending at the Chandler Park Dome.

59:00

Uh, and just so you are aware, the there will be a formal process that goes out.

59:06

So I did ask for my team to reach out to you to get you set up as a vendor with the city, so when the opportunity becomes available, you can apply for it.

59:16

I will ensure that takes place if it hasn't already.

59:20

Thank you.

59:20

Thank you, Mr.

59:21

President.

59:21

Thank you.

59:22

Next caller, please.

59:25

The next caller is not that Karen.

59:28

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

59:30

We have two minutes.

59:31

General public comment.

59:33

Hello.

59:34

Hello.

59:37

Yes.

59:38

Um I agree with everything, Mr.

59:41

Davis, Ms.

59:42

Amad, and Miss Logan said we definitely need um to uh work on getting the retirees made whole.

59:51

The homeless, um, it's a definite issue.

59:53

We gotta take care of the homeless.

59:54

We gotta get these babies and these single mothers, um, single parent households off the streets.

1:00:00

$600 million over taxation.

1:00:03

I mean, that's just it's just like the retirees pensions being taken.

1:00:07

It's just a big uh legitimized theft, is all it is.

1:00:11

It doesn't make sense that people work 30 years and under a contract, just like you're under a contract right now.

1:00:18

I'm sure when you retire, you'd be appalled if your earned uh earned pension was compromised after you work 30 years, you know, use your whole young life working doing a service for the city, and then you get paid, you get repaid by having your money taken away from you, and it's still being taken without a cost of living.

1:00:38

Even the federal government is realizing that a cost of living is is necessary to keep up with keep people's heads above the water so nobody drowns in the sea of confusion that we are forced to live in.

1:00:51

Term limits is such a wonderful idea.

1:00:53

And I think that the council should city count all public officers should have term limits.

1:00:58

Um, in spite of the fact that the president wants to push for a third term, that just shows you how audacious uh the thinking is of some of these elected officials.

1:01:06

You're just gonna disregard the constitution and rules, and you just want to do what you want to do.

1:01:12

Um, it's not fair to the taxpayers.

1:01:14

Taxpayers finance your salary, taxpayers are going to finance your uh health care, and they're financing it now.

1:01:21

So I think that we should you know be a little more um, you know, a little more creative and finding ways to make the city of Detroit retirees whole, stop the clawbacks, restore all health care, and make people uh uh you should be a combo for what the contract was when we signed up.

1:01:39

Thank you.

1:01:42

Next caller, please.

1:01:44

The next caller is Charles Miles.

1:01:47

Caller, the floor is yours.

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You have two minutes, general public comment.

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Hello, my name's Charles.

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I'm calling again to get some justice out of the city of Detroit.

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You guys work there.

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We've been coming coming down there for at least to you to the actual city council for the last five years.

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Uh trying to get this situation resolved with my properties that you're trying to take, and you keep claiming that I owe something that I don't owe, and I clarified to each and every one of the bills.

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I gave you a copy of a misapplied payment.

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Now, do I have to give you guys the exact amount?

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I paid the full amount 1555, and some idiot down there misapplied the payment backwards to create a balance and a credit where I never received a payment from you guys, and this has been over nine years ago.

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I you claim there was a credit in the system for all these years that I knew nothing about.

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You never gave me a check, so you kept the money, and then you charged me.

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And now I have to go to court.

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I had to pay lawyers, I didn't pay multiple lawyers over all these years, and you guys do nothing.

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And you guys need to be fired.

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I mean, this is unacceptable.

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And it's probably so many people that don't even know because if you don't really look at how you did this misapplied payment, that nobody would know that it was misapplied because you gave me a receipt to set out paid in full.

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So how could I pay in full and owe you guys?

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And you do nothing about it.

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It's a simple correction that you could have made and cleared my properties, and then you just double stacked it, and then you got these low, you got these police officers harassing me now.

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Talking about they investigating me for something that I clearly did not do, and the chief is not doing nothing about it either.

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Next caller, please.

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The next next caller is Tyson Gersh.

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All right, caller, the floor is yours.

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You have two minutes, general public comment.

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Hi, can you hear me?

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Yes.

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Hi, um, I'm sitting in the BZA right now, oddly enough.

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Um, I guess I just wanted to chime in on the memo item regarding the BZA uh uh uh uh fee schedule.

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Um I mean I went through 25 years of city council journals, and the BZA, the the BZA director's request for an increase of fees in 2013 has the 2006 fee schedule attached to it, at which time transcripts were to be charged at 50 cents a page.

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Uh, and in 2013, and that request made asked for a 20% increase.

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And then it looks like the BZA attempted to implement a new fee schedule in 2010, but it was determined to have been improperly uh added without council approval.

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Um that was in 2010, sorry, and then there's like a really weird track record around this stuff, but I mean it's like pretty clear city council never approved um this pass-through uh idea, right?

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Like, and I don't even think city council can delegate its authority to a private third party, right?

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Because then like you've got prices changing, like you can't have a private vendor dictating the cost of public documents.

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Um, it just doesn't make any sense.

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Um, and I don't think city council ever did this.

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Um I just I don't understand why we're even having this conversation in the first place.

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And I I hope LPD is able to uh I guess provide some good direction here.

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Um, I don't think we necessarily need, you know, maybe it's a change in the ordinance, uh, like the current ordinance requires like a stenographer's transcript, which is like a very antiquated thing to begin with.

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Um, but we should just do what every other municipality does and record the videos of our hearings, which we already do and we already pay to do, and then we just post the videos of those things online, and then you can link to those in your court filings if you need to appeal and just make reference to the timestamp of where the dialogue in question is, and uh I mean, like it could just it could be that simple.

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Um I I don't think it makes a lot of sense to be obligating our agencies to spend uh hundreds of thousands of dollars, which for 25 years city council has approved contracts in those amounts um for these transcripts, like there's just no need.

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It's 2025, we have the technology, like just post the videos online, uh make them on YouTube so we can export the automatic transcript.

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And if there's a dispute, get the court get a court reporter to make a formal transcript of that one minute of footage.

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All right, thank you.

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The next caller is Cindy Dara.

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Good morning.

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Hello, yes, good morning, Cindy Dara.

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Yeah, um, I just want to mention real quick, people.

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I think you know this that if you haven't been convicted and you're in jail, you have a right to vote.

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I think that's what your uh Ramon was talking with uh Mary Waters.

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Okay, uh now I've got uh uh a complaint about that.

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I think is interesting.

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I was trying to clean up, so I can't across these papers from 2005, where it was uh minutes for the Detroit election commission, and that meeting uh this guy said, Well, I don't think we have to put it on the ballot if there's only there's not enough candidates.

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We leave that up of the primary ballot because there's not enough to require a primary.

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Well, that was 2005, and they named the name of the the uh act, it was uh uh PO well anyway, public act five, and I I just looked online, I Googled it, and it said it'd been repealed, so it was illegal for him to leave this stuff because people might want to be write-ins.

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Well, I sent letters of protest to uh the attorney general and secretary of state.

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I got all I got was that these a letter saying that we only do uh uh you know, we don't do that kind of work at attorney general's office, and and I never got any response from the uh secretary of state.

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And if we want uh to get good government, you better back uh Gilcrest for governor right now, and get people to start registering and voting in Detroit because uh Jogan has control of the media, uh DTE and Michigan radio, and he's he's got big money behind him, so the people outstate.

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We've got to work to get people voting here in high numbers to counter the outstate vote that might come from uh misinformation.

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Great, thank you.

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The next caller is Ruben J.

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Crowley Jr.

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All right, good morning.

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Can you hear me clearly?

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Yes, we can.

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Okay.

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Mary Waters, what Ramon said is absolutely correct.

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100% correct.

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The very first confirmed case of Aston T ballot fraud in City of Detroit was that of John Fitzgerald Kennedy III.

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I know.

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I was on the phone with him when we discovered and uncovered the very first case of absentee ballot voter fraud.

1:10:35

Fred Durhaw.

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You said some slick.

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Now I'm gonna check you for it.

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Uh you got voter trap houses over in District 7.

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Detroit voter trap houses.

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New lingo.

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There were so many of them that I stopped looking.

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But now I'm gonna go back and revisit that.

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You and Steve Wasco, that pastor, or he ain't no pastor, director over at St.

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Suzanne's Church, where you got the resource center in your district office.

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You a cheated in public official.

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My word.

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And I got a 40-year plus reputation in and around the city of Detroit to be a stand up 100.

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Now James E.

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Tate Jr.

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James E.

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Fraud Tate Jr.

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Nini wants what the F she wants.

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Yesterday was Kinesha Coleman, DPD case 20-11 112 birthday, born day.

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She was assassinated, suicide.

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It's not the right designation.

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She was murdered by her blood relative.

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Charmaine McCloud.

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My word.

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All right, our next caller, please.

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The next caller is Crystal Rice.

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Good morning, Crystal Rice.

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Good morning, Crystal Rice.

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Can you hear me?

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Yes, we can.

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Good morning.

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Good morning.

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Um, I haven't been on in a while.

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Um, it's really hard that to know that the same people are still on here with the same issues.

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Um, y'all do need to take a uh book uh uh a book or a record of the previous city council where Joanne Watson was on there and she had people on site that addressed those problems immediately.

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We don't get that a lot, and we and you know that we gotta stop doing the things that we are doing on here.

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You're not listening, and you're being and y'all ain't listening because you're being paid to.

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We have some exceptions.

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Mary Waters, I love you.

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Thank you for answering the call for Pamela Willis.

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You know, we gotta have more of y'all like that.

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We got issues in our community.

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We have a whole block from why you're talking about housing.

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You have a whole block from Pierre 10 to 6 mile apartments that are boarded up in band uh owned by one landlord.

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That's not being taken care of.

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I just moved here a year um for being out of the city 13 years.

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My taxes just went up doubled.

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2800.

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I'm in district two, six mile in Schaefer area.

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This makes no sense, but I need you to listen to the people.

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Like you go out to Yangelong Ye and talk about what you do.

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You need to spend more time not being in New York and being in Detroit.

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Listen to the people, and this thing with the the I I promote black owned businesses.

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This thing going down at Campus Marshalls, is insulting.

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I promote black owned businesses.

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You're push you, you're getting these outside contractors and not, and thank you, Miss Callaway for fighting for us for getting contracts for people, especially when the contract regarding the police uniforms and that we got tailors that are actually in the city of Detroit instead of going outside the city.

1:14:28

Man Sheffield, you've been there 12 years, you haven't done nothing.

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You were you've allowed to be you've been the doormat, and you've been using Mary Waters' housing to say it's yours.

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You need to stop.

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You need to all right, thank you.

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The next caller is Miko A.

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Williams.

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Good morning.

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Good morning.

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I just have advice.

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Um, you should not take everybody's endorsement, especially those who talked about you and those who have ridiculed you in public.

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You should not take Mike Duggan's endorsement because that means white supremacy colonization, corporate colonialism, and power to be consumed and to complete the Thanos ring of black uh dismantlement in the city of Detroit.

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You should also not take Santi Ojink's endorsement.

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The lady that ran out on the city of Detroit, abandoned us, took a high-paying job, laughed in our faces, disrespected us, and disrespected you as a person and also as a candidate.

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That ain't right.

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Okay.

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We, the people of the city of Detroit need you here while you're still running.

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You need to do the job that you were elected to do.

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And also for these police harassments and threats by the snitches and informants, you don't scare me.

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Okay, your bully and intimidation won't work.

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You can have people calling my phone on social media, all because I'm pointing out the truth that y'all take your snitch money and selling out the residents and trying to jail and criminalize us and make money off of us because Trump and Daddy Duggan ain't giving y'all no money, they're giving no money.

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And I'm sick and tired of it.

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I'm ready to come out of retirement and I'll start doing some hot things around this city.

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Mark my words.

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And Charlie Kirk is not a hero.

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He was a racist, a bigot, and a terrible person.

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Of course, the voter deniers would uphold him this morning.

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And there should not be any flags or remembrances anywhere across this city in regards to that man.

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I do not condone racism, hatred, bigotry, exonophobia.

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No one is illegal on stolen land.

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And I'm sick and tired of the anti-Semitic comments.

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All of us are under attack across Eight Mile Road, the suburbs want to get us out and exterminate us.

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Don't you ever forget that?

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Thank you for taking my comment.

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Great.

1:17:01

Thank you, uh, Mika Williams.

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The next caller is Cina Brown Anderson.

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All right, good morning.

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Good morning, may I be heard?

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Yes, go right ahead.

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First, I would like to say the public comment process is very demeaning, and fixing problems for one and not the mass is discriminatory.

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One or two minutes of time to address our concerns is totally an ineffective experience for residents that are in distress.

1:17:35

How there is not one proposal on the table that will aid to making this process more effective for the residents of Detroit, I'm not sure.

1:17:43

How can you have such a surplus but not recommendations for making our retirees whole?

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Their pensions were stolen.

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A hostile takeover of their finances happened to report a surplus for potential debt and not a retirees, make our retirees whole is totally disrespectful to our hardworking seniors that now struggle to have home repairs, pay their property taxes and other expenditures.

1:18:10

Water drainage fees, why is it so hard for all of you to recognize that something needs to be re-in revisited about this water drainage fees?

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It's cowardly to not work to resolve this issue for Detroit that now pay once a month what they were paying in three months.

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When will we have the clerk explain the rights of those that have a felony record in or their incarcerated voting rights or lack of share the lack share the black and white in writing that educate all potential voters?

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The negative impact that our Detroit election has on registered voters is one of the biggest forms of voter suppression.

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And as leaders, it is to keep the rights of our citizens protected and our elections fair and just.

1:19:56

That's you, uh internal operations.

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We're we have a problem with how this city is operating, and you can see you can hear from the comments and the frustration from the people.

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Now the the media is owned, yes, by Doug in the media, you, the council are all owned by Doug and you do exactly what he says.

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So you're operating under a right supremacy mandate.

1:20:19

That's the reason why you can go to campus marshes park, take the jobs from the people, the vendors who were there and replace them the same way you did the home repair.

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You scrapped the list of all the people who had been on the home repair uh program for many years and then gave it to people who had just come on.

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Um, you you all are responsible for the chaos that's going on in this city that you can thank yourselves for that with all your ordinance changes that don't make us a bit of sense to a to a thinking person.

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What you're doing is making our lives worse.

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And then on 22.2, you have money allocated for uh alcoholism and and and drug addiction or but you are the ones who are helping this to go along.

1:21:05

You're you have you have proof that the state has more liquor license in the city than the law allow allows.

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Now you would you would let Graham Anderson tell you that don't worry about that, but why shouldn't we worry about that?

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We know that guns and alcohol are a toxic mix.

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Why don't you sue the state for the for the license over licensing of of alcohol that they have presented in this city?

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It is a problem, and you, the council, should address it.

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Thank you so much.

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And that was our last caller for public comment.

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So we will now end public comment for this morning.

1:21:49

Uh, we do have someone on from the clerk's office, uh, Pierre is correct, yes, yes, madam president.

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We have Daniel Baxter on from the vote, Daniel Baxter, please accept the prompt.

1:22:14

If Mr.

1:22:14

Baxter could accept the prompt to be promoted, he has been moved over.

1:22:32

Good morning, Daniel Baxter.

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How are you?

1:22:34

I'm good.

1:22:35

How are you doing?

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Thank you.

1:22:38

Um, if you could just clarify um the ability for those who are uh incarcerated at the Wayne County jail, there the process for them to be able to vote in uh local elections.

1:22:51

Yes, absolutely.

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So, in accordance to Michigan election law, if you are in prison awaiting arraignment or trial, that means that you have not been convicted, then you have every right as any other eligible citizen in the city of Detroit or the state of Michigan, which means that if you're not registered, you can register and vote by absentee by using uh either your home address or using the Wayne County jail as your residential address.

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And then the second option that you have is obviously that if you're a registered voter, then you may request to vote by absentee ballot, and that ballot can be mailed to the Wayne County jail, and you receive that ballot and cast it just like any other voter.

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So the only option that is exclusive to an individual in jail awaiting arraignment or trial is that they cannot go to an early vote center or vote at the polls on election day.

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So they're restricted to voting by absentee ballot.

1:24:03

Okay, all right.

1:24:04

Thank you so much for the clarity.

1:24:06

Any questions, Riverwater?

1:24:07

No.

1:24:08

Okay.

1:24:09

All right.

1:24:09

Thank you so much, uh, Mr.

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Baxter.

1:24:11

That was uh what we can see here.

1:24:12

Thank you, sir.

1:24:14

All right.

1:24:18

Okay, we will proceed back to our agenda for this morning.

1:24:28

For the internal operations standing committee from the Office of Contracting and Procurement.

1:24:33

Council Member Johnson, a resolution line item 16.1.

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Contract number 3086570, 100% city funding to provide rental of school buildings for the upcoming August 2025 election and November 2025 election.

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Contractors, Detroit Public Schools, total contract amount 297,653.

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That's for elections.

1:25:00

Council Member Johnson, a resolution.

1:25:03

Councilmember Johnson.

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Thank you, Madam President.

1:25:06

Move for approval.

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Discussion.

1:25:08

Member Benson.

1:25:10

All right, thank you.

1:25:10

Uh, yourself to the clerk's office.

1:25:14

Just why are we now paying for the ability to utilize the school?

1:25:19

This is a new contract and it ends in June of next year.

1:25:23

Do we expect to continue paying, or will there be a bid for optional locations to uh cast votes?

1:25:39

All right, Mr.

1:25:40

Washington, do we have someone on?

1:25:44

Good morning, madam chair and committee.

1:25:46

Um, I would defer to the clerk's office, but I do believe Chris Madouka is online.

1:25:51

Madam President, that is correct.

1:25:53

Mr.

1:25:53

Maduka is online to answer any questions regarding this contract.

1:25:58

We will promote Mr.

1:25:59

Maduka.

1:26:07

Mr.

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Maduca has been promoted, he just has to accept the link.

1:26:27

Good morning, Mr.

1:26:28

Manduka.

1:26:29

Are you with us?

1:26:32

Yes, I am.

1:26:34

Sorry about the delay.

1:26:36

No, where are we?

1:26:37

All right, member Vincent.

1:26:39

Thank you.

1:26:39

Just the new contract.

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Why are we now paying for these services for a year?

1:26:47

And then is there a plan to get this out moving forward or how would we continue?

1:26:53

Uh are we looking to pay and continue paying for the ability to utilize the school buildings as voting locations?

1:27:00

Uh through the chair, we've been paying for uh these services because ultimately we currently have 55 buildings that we use to the Detroit public schools, and it's not simple to just simply uproot, especially considering we're talking about displacing potentially upwards of 180,000 voters and finding new polling locations, plus the law requires that we cannot change polling locations within 60 days of an election.

1:27:29

But even still, it's difficult to find uh locations that will ultimately house us uh that are ADA accessible or uh and compliant within that stuff as far as having wheelchair accessible ramps, uh proper signage, uh elevator access, etc.

1:27:48

We essentially serve at the pleasure uh of these locations, and furthermore, we didn't want to cause mass confusion as far as uprooting from 55 uh polling locations, which would make up over a third of our polling locations, roughly 35 percent.

1:28:05

So then it's our plan to continue paying the 300,000 a year moving forward per year.

1:28:11

It's our plan to uh ultimately see if we can find other accommodations is just late in the game, but even still, as I said, with uh any polling location we serve at the pleasure, and we are very weary of displacing hundreds of thousands of voters.

1:28:27

Um, but we will try to mitigate the cost as much as possible by finding other suitable locations, typically within a mile of the location that closed.

1:28:36

All right, is there any opportunity to renegotiate with the school system to reduce?

1:28:40

Uh absolutely cost.

1:28:42

Oh, I'm I'm sorry, uh, to renegotiate the school system to eliminate and or reduce that cost uh through the chair, absolutely.

1:28:51

You we are taking that under consideration uh for the uh 2026 gubernatorial elections because we do realize that the cost of this is becoming untenable.

1:29:01

Like I said, while we want to make sure that we don't displace hundreds of thousands of voters, we also have to be mindful of our budget.

1:29:07

So, yes, we will speak to uh to DPS regarding seeing if we get something that mitigates the cost.

1:29:13

All right, thank you.

1:29:14

Uh no in no way advocating that we displace anybody or make it more difficult to vote, but I do want to make sure that we are being um prudent with the budgets and obviously support ensuring that we can vote easily, but this still is a budget impact for us, and if people are causing new budget impacts for us, I think we need to identify or have a conversation on how we can mitigate that cost, especially for providing services back.

1:29:42

Thank you.

1:29:43

Of course, the department completely concurs.

1:29:47

Thank you, Councilmember Young.

1:29:49

Thank you.

1:29:51

Good to see you, sir.

1:29:52

Always uh always a pleasure.

1:29:55

Um, but my concern is a little bit different.

1:29:57

I'm more concerned about scope creep.

1:30:00

I'm more concerned about um making sure that we have a clear delineation between the schools and the city.

1:30:11

And what I mean by that is I don't like the fact that we are starting to be charged by the schools for the issues of providing uh for using school buildings in terms of the right to vote, because I think then the city could decide are we gonna start charging the schools for the inspection services that we provide?

1:30:30

Are we gonna then start um charging the schools for you know the recreational center partnership that we might have or partner up with city parks?

1:30:41

I understand what you're going with cause, and I'm gonna and I'm gonna support this because I don't want to be that guy to go against the schools, and I understand things are hard, but I just want to make it clear we are a city that's just getting out of bankruptcy, and so I don't like the fact that we're adding costs, and I don't like the fact that we're adding cost this way to to an entity that the voters have voted twice for us not to be um in control of, and I feel that these are small steps that would start for us, well, at least let me back up for people like me to be able to want to have more of a say so.

1:31:20

You know, if you're charging me for this, why can I charge you for that?

1:31:23

Or maybe I don't want to charge you, maybe I'll wake up one day and say I want to have more of a say so in terms of where schools are placed or where they're opened up or where they're closed or what neighborhood they're at in certain areas.

1:31:38

I'm not saying that that is gonna happen exactly, but I think over time, the escalation of that.

1:31:44

That's how these things start, and so I'm really kind of concerned.

1:31:49

I think we I don't have to go for this now, but I would like some sort of one acknowledgement and secondly, some sort of agreement in the future that this is temporary, this is where this stopped because we can't keep we I don't want to have this transactional relationship because I see this escalating into things eventually where the city is doing things that it's not supposed to be doing that the people don't want it to do based on the fact that we are now being we are paying for things that we shouldn't be paying for in the first place because that's how it starts an experience.

1:32:31

First, it starts with you know we're paying for this stuff, then we're gonna be charged with other stuff, then we'll be in charge of other stuff, and as these, you know, as we have more councils that come along in the future, eventually somebody is gonna want to have more of a say so over things that DPSC did eventually, and so I just want to be careful that we have that dividing line.

1:32:52

So I think we need to take this seriously.

1:32:54

So I would like, and I'm not saying this for you because I don't know if you're authorized to be able to speak on behalf of the policy direction of that, but I would like some sort of direction at some point in time of somebody with a DPS CD to be able to tell me that this is temporary, this is not going to be a trend, and it's not going to escalate into something further.

1:33:15

Thank you, President.

1:33:18

Thank you so much.

1:33:20

Member Vincent.

1:33:21

One last item.

1:33:22

Just when did we start being charged for the schools?

1:33:28

And was there a reason why they wanted to start charging?

1:33:31

Sure.

1:33:32

Uh the through the chair, uh, the first time we were charged uh by the schools was in 2022.

1:33:39

And the reason why the paradigm shifted was ultimately because of uh rampant inflation that ensued after the uh COVID pandemic.

1:33:48

Ultimately, the school said that it was untenable uh even further for them to uh provide said services to us free of charge.

1:33:57

Now they weren't as prohibitively expensive as they were or as they are today.

1:34:03

Uh but that was when it initially started.

1:34:07

We had a memorandum of understanding with them initially as we conducted their elections, uh, that they would ultimately provide said services for us for free.

1:34:16

However, like I said, given uh economic pressures that arose after the pandemic and whatnot, uh as they as I stated, they said it was untenable going forward, but the price wasn't nearly as exorbitant as it is today.

1:34:34

Okay, so it sounds as if there may be some creep as concern as addressed by my colleague.

1:34:42

So what is the value of us managing or provide the administration of their election?

1:34:50

I what does it cost us to do that?

1:34:52

I don't have those numbers uh presently, but we can certainly get that to you in writing.

1:35:04

I would like to see that.

1:35:04

Thank you.

1:35:06

Thank you, Chair.

1:35:08

Thank you, Member Waters.

1:35:10

Um thank you, um, Madam President.

1:35:13

I uh I just wanted to add, I I am trying to understand um what is costing the schools to be open um to staff at for maintenance.

1:35:29

I know that they incur some costs, and we cannot ignore that either.

1:35:34

So um perhaps they can share that with us um a little bit later, and and I don't I don't think that we should be able to necessarily use them for free.

1:35:44

We ought to be able to pay them something for utilizing those schools.

1:35:48

Somebody has to maintain it, somebody has to staff it, somebody has to clean it up, clean up the schools after election day.

1:35:56

So there has to be some sort of happy median uh uh in between.

1:36:01

I don't I don't want to be too hard on our schools because they're suffering uh as well.

1:36:06

Thank you, madam president.

1:36:08

All right, thank you so much.

1:36:10

All right, colleagues, did you want to postpone this or are we comfortable moving it forward?

1:36:15

Okay, all right.

1:36:18

There was a motion to approve line items, line item 16.1.

1:36:24

Are there any objections?

1:36:27

Hearing no objections, that action will be taken.

1:36:32

Thank you, uh Mr.

1:36:33

Maduca.

1:36:35

Thank you very much from the law department, Councilmember Johnson, 10 resolutions, noting that line item 16.2 was reported out of committee without recommendation.

1:36:51

All right, member Johnson.

1:36:53

Thank you, madam president.

1:36:54

Move for approval, these are various lawsuit settlement requests.

1:36:59

All right, a motion has been made.

1:37:01

And are there any objections hearing no objections to the settlements?

1:37:16

All items will be approved.

1:37:19

Madam President, I'd like to request a waiver for line item 16.1.

1:37:24

Any objections to 16.1.

1:37:27

I'm sorry, 16.1.

1:37:29

Okay, 16.1.

1:37:31

Hearing no objections, a waiver will be attached to 16.1 for the planning and economic development standing committee from the office of contracting and procurement.

1:37:42

Council President Pro Tim Tate for resolutions, line items 17.1 through 17.4, noting that they are all contracts for housing and revitalization.

1:37:53

Contract number 600 6550-a1, 100% ARPRA funding, amendment one to provide an extension of time only for development of public facility rehabilitation accessibility upgrades, contractor alternative for girls, total contract amount 216,990.

1:38:15

Contract number 600 6556-a one 100% ARPA funding, amendment one to provide an extension of time only for development of public facility rehabilitation accessibility upgrades, contractor served Metro Detroit jobs for progress incorporated total contract amount 40,443.

1:39:04

Contract number 600 6558-a1, 100% ARPA funding, amendment one to provide an extension of time only for development of public facility rehabilitation accessibility upgrade, contractor Stafford House total contract amount 91,154.

1:39:24

Council President Pro Tim Tate for resolutions.

1:39:28

President Pro Tim Tate.

1:39:37

Are there any objections?

1:39:42

Hearing no objections, the four resolutions will be approved from the city planning commission.

1:39:50

Council President Pro Tim Tate and introduction of an ordinance, not item 17.5.

1:39:57

President Pro Tim Tate.

1:40:00

For 17.5, I move to take the ordinance.

1:40:03

Um move that the ordinance, excuse me, be read uh twice by title, ordered printed and laid on the table.

1:40:10

All right.

1:40:10

And this is the Detroit Farm Insider are requesting rezoning parcels to allow for retail sales of a farm insider operation.

1:40:21

Are there any objections?

1:40:25

Hearing none, that action will be taken.

1:40:28

Pro Tem Tate.

1:40:29

Excuse me, from the city planning commission.

1:40:32

Possible President Pro Tem Tate a resolution setting the public hearing.

1:40:36

Line item 17.6.

1:40:38

Pro Tem Tate.

1:40:39

Thank you, Madam President.

1:40:40

I move uh to set the public hearing for line item 17.6 for October 16th.

1:40:47

All right.

1:40:47

Hearing no objections, the resolution will be approved for the scheduling of a public hearing.

1:40:55

From the city planning commission.

1:40:58

House of President Pro Tem Tate and introduction of an ordinance.

1:41:01

Line item 17.7.

1:41:05

Pro Tem Tate.

1:41:06

Madam President, I move that the ordinance and line item 17.7 be read twice by title, ordered printed and laid on the table.

1:41:16

Hearing no objections, that action will be taken.

1:41:21

From the city planning commission.

1:41:24

A resolution set in a public hearing.

1:41:28

Pro Tem Tate.

1:41:33

Discussed in line item 17.8 for October 16th.

1:41:38

Discussion.

1:41:38

Member Santiago Lamero.

1:41:42

Thank you, Madam President.

1:41:43

Um, just wondering if we can hear from the administration since we're moving this through uh to be in front of the community to be put out.

1:41:51

Um, if they can just share with us what engagement has been looking like so far.

1:41:56

These are pretty massive zoning changes.

1:41:58

Um, and we'd just like to hear what engagement with community has been so far.

1:42:04

Okay.

1:42:05

Um Mr.

1:42:08

Washington.

1:42:09

Yes, um, madam chair, are we on item 17.8?

1:42:14

We are on yep, and yep, 17.7 is the ordinance itself.

1:42:19

But it's referring to that yet.

1:42:22

Okay, I would defer to city planning commission on this item.

1:42:25

Do we still have director Todd on?

1:42:30

No, he's not on.

1:42:31

Okay.

1:42:36

Okay.

1:42:37

So we can bring this towards the end of the agenda and make sure someone from CPC can join us to give us an update on their community engagement.

1:42:46

That's okay, colleagues.

1:42:47

I'm sure so moved.

1:42:49

Okay, so we will postpone or excuse me, move to the end of the agenda, line item 17.8, which is the scheduling of the public hearing for the proposed coordinates.

1:42:59

Yes, member Young.

1:43:00

Yeah, I I'm I'm assuming, and I don't know this is probably easy question to answer, but I'm assuming that the issue of public engagement, that's also something that's gonna be discussed during the public hearing, right?

1:43:11

Yes, okay, I just make sure.

1:43:12

So once we get it here, we'll also get more okay.

1:43:15

Yep, most definitely.

1:43:17

Update on real time and all that.

1:43:20

Okay, from the housing and revitalization department.

1:43:23

House of President Pro Tem Tate a resolution line item 17.9.

1:43:28

Pro Tem Tate.

1:43:29

Madam President, I move approval line item 17.9.

1:43:33

All right, is there uh any objections?

1:43:39

Hearing no objections, the one resolution will be approved to request for a waiver for 17.9.

1:43:50

Okay.

1:43:52

From the housing and revitalization department.

1:43:56

Council member waters or resolution line item 17.10.

1:44:00

Actually, madam president, that should be under resolutions and not HRD.

1:44:05

Okay, under resolutions, member water, member waters line item 17.10.

1:44:14

Thank you, uh Madam President.

1:44:16

This is a resolution just asking for the um the state to do a forensic audit.

1:44:23

Um Detroit Land Bank.

1:44:28

Member Benson, uh through yourself to member waters.

1:44:31

Have we asked for our own auditor general to do an audit versus one for state?

1:44:38

My concern is I'd just rather not ask the state to do work that we can do in-house.

1:44:43

Um well, well, frankly, we haven't been able to do a whole lot in-house when it comes to to the land bank, but uh the the Detroit Land Bank is is not a city of Detroit creation.

1:45:00

Um it's uh it exists pursuant to state law.

1:45:03

Um, so the legal onus is uh really falls on the state to monitor and investigate.

1:45:13

With that same logic, I mean we are also a creature of the state as well, but I still believe since we have our own auditor that we can handle this in-house versus putting our business out to the state, and if there were issues that could be handled in-house, then we could at that time request state support.

1:45:31

I'd just much rather see us handle our business here versus one to the state, something that we can do.

1:45:39

It really is this land bank.

1:45:44

See, we we don't have any real jurisdiction when it comes um uh to this to this land bank.

1:45:51

So I just believe that the that it's appropriate venue for for the state uh to do such such an audit.

1:46:00

If if I mean when when you when you think about it, I mean, we even did some things with the OIG as relates to the land bank, nothing really came back for it, but yet we continue to have all of these problems that are arising um from the citizens uh from the city.

1:46:19

So the the we are trying to address violations of the state statutes, and I don't believe that we can sufficiently do that here.

1:46:31

I think it should be addressed at the state level.

1:46:35

So the Detroit Land Bank is a is a creation of the state, the city of Detroit, all municipalities and government entities are creations of the state.

1:46:44

The mayor of Detroit appoints board members.

1:46:49

We in coordination appoint a board member as well.

1:46:53

For all intents and purposes, we manage and control the Detroit land bank right here in the city of Detroit.

1:46:59

Once again, I I don't have an issue with asking for this type of administrative audit, really more of a pop quiz.

1:47:06

Are you all doing things legally?

1:47:08

If not, then that's fine, it could be identified here, but I just really rather see us do that here.

1:47:13

So my request would be will you be open to a modification of your resolution to keep this request in-house and then make an official request to our own auditor general.

1:47:23

We pay well, and we just ensure that those offices received a pay increase and receive a minimum budget annually now to do an audit of this nature to keep this type of work in-house versus sending it off to the state of Michigan.

1:47:39

That would be my request.

1:47:44

Just we keep it in-house.

1:47:46

Um well, thank you, uh, Matt Frank, and to my colleague from the third district.

1:47:54

I'm I wish I had had the confidence of keeping it here in house.

1:47:58

Of course, if the body decides to do that, um deal there their vote and an amended, I I can't stop it, but my preference would be for it to go to the state.

1:48:10

But when I take a look at the NAP program, for example, the nuisance abatement program, I am still very bothered by that program.

1:48:19

And I've asked the attorney general for an opinion, which we have not received after a year and a half.

1:48:25

Uh, I don't believe that we should be granting the land bank such authority to take private property.

1:48:33

And and that that's a very that's a sticker with me, and there's nobody uh at the city level that's been willing to stop them.

1:48:42

And so that is my frustration.

1:48:45

So that's why I wanted to send it to the state.

1:48:47

They are responsible ultimately for making sure that people are uh are adhering um to the state statute.

1:48:56

Discussion.

1:48:58

So just so I'm clear, the request went to the state attorney general for an opinion that was never acted upon, and we're willing and requesting the state to do a forensic audit when we already have behavior at the state level that they're not going to engage versus asking our own staff who we pay handsomely to do this work.

1:49:24

Well, that was the um that was the the uh the state attorney general.

1:49:29

That's that's a little bit different in terms of uh asking for a forensic audit.

1:49:36

Okay, and just to be clear, I can support, and I is I believe it's your right, and it's good business to make sure that all of our um entities, either we have direct control or through border control, are behaving accordingly, but I can't support going to the state to do that when we have the ability and the capacity to do that in-house.

1:50:00

So then with my request that you would make that you look that a motion be made with your support to keep that request in-house, which is a simple text change from the state to the city's auditor general to do that forensic audit.

1:50:15

Well, through you, madam uh president, I certainly um I'd like to hear from other colleagues who feel the same way as my colleague from district three.

1:50:24

Okay.

1:50:25

All right, member Vincent, is that a motion for now?

1:50:27

No, it's not a motion.

1:50:28

Okay, member, member Young.

1:50:30

Uh listen, I I understand where both council members are coming from.

1:50:34

I mean, I I understand Member Benson in terms of you know, this we are a city, this is a city department, but I understand um from member waters in terms that they are independent authority.

1:50:44

They are created by the state land bank, that's what they derive from, and so you want to make sure that they have the power to be able to do that.

1:50:50

I'm not saying that we can't audit them.

1:50:53

I just don't like the fact of auditing independent authorities because once you audit them, then there's feels there's going to be a little bit of pressure to actually like do something to reform them after the audit.

1:51:05

Uh so I understand why you want that to be done on the state level, so they can kind of keep their independence as an independent authority.

1:51:12

As we kind of keep those two in the proper uh legal frameworks in which they were designed to be in in the first place.

1:51:19

Um and uh legal constructions, excuse me.

1:51:23

But I would also like to, but but my question is is about forensic auditing.

1:51:28

Is this a forensic is this like a forensic audit where in the traditional sense where we are using the accounting process to be able to find criminality and fraud to be able to present in front of a judge, or is this like the audits that they do in the city through the audit general where it's the kind of a normal auditing process, but just have the title of forensic on it.

1:51:53

I just want to make sure which one this is, and if it's the former, I want to know do we have an estimate of the cost?

1:52:00

Because for my understanding, those costs can be pretty high.

1:52:04

Well, and and no, uh, member Young, we we do not have the cost.

1:52:11

Um, we didn't bother to do a cost at this point because we were sending it to to the state.

1:52:17

Uh, if we were doing it in-house, we certainly would have requested a cost.

1:52:22

No, no, no, I I understand.

1:52:24

But but am I right about the the the second part of my question about this is a forensic audit in the sense of us being able to use the auditing process to be able to find criminality and fraud to present before a judge.

1:52:35

Right, right.

1:52:36

It's not like the normal, this is not like we do like what we auditing process, say forensic audits, right?

1:52:42

But they don't mean that type of forensic audit.

1:52:44

Okay, I just want I just want to make sure.

1:52:46

And the reason why I'm saying about the cost audit is not to stop it one way or the other.

1:52:50

I'm just saying, usually when I have these conversations about forensic audits when I was in Lansing to mandate that the local units of government have these every other year, that was the first thing they came up with.

1:53:01

Was what was the was the price point and the cost points?

1:53:04

Or if you're doing, even though this is a non-binary resolution, I'm just saying in the future, if this is something that you want to do, you want to make sure you at least have that and have that tight, particularly if you're talking about just all the aspects of it.

1:53:16

Now, if you're now if you're narrowing it to like contracts and the contractual process, I think that would kind of make it a little bit more, it wouldn't be as astronomical in terms of the cost per se.

1:53:26

If you have it in limited scope when you're presenting it from the state, then to be able to do it.

1:53:30

I'm just trying to say that because these are some of the things that I had happened when we had this conversation, so you can perceive it, address it, and then forward so I have a better, it would have a better chance of being able to actually happen.

1:53:43

Thank you.

1:53:43

I'm done.

1:53:44

Okay, thank you, Member Young.

1:53:46

Any additional comments on the proposed resolution?

1:53:50

Any additional discussion.

1:53:52

Discussion.

1:53:53

All right, member Benson.

1:53:54

To yourself to uh member waters, are you open to an amendment to send this to the city auditor general versus the state?

1:54:02

Um, well, first of all, if if I may, madam president, the I don't know what the cost would be before I send it to the uh the city's uh auditor general.

1:54:14

And frankly, I I don't want the city's order auditor general to incur such a cost.

1:54:21

And as we all know, this is a this is a resolution encouraging the state to do it.

1:54:28

It doesn't mean that they're going to do it.

1:54:30

I hope that they do it, but it doesn't mean that that they will.

1:54:35

So I wanted to make sure that we at least brought this uh to uh to their attention.

1:54:42

We we we've had a lot of issues um uh with this with this land bank.

1:54:47

I I can't when I go to the store, I anywhere that I go, people have been hurt one way or another by this land bank.

1:54:55

Somebody needs to see what's going on.

1:55:00

to do it i hope that they do it but it doesn't mean that that that they will so i wanted to make sure that we at least brought this um to uh to their attention we we we've had a lot of issues um uh with this with this land bank i i can't when i go to the store i anywhere that i go people have been hurt one way or another by this land bank somebody needs to see what's going on i'm not getting the results that we've been looking for here uh at the local level and i don't want us to have to incur the cost uh for uh such an audit so i'm asking the state to look into it they've been ignoring the cry uh uh for um that that we've at least elevated to them that's been coming from the people and so so we have to keep we have to keep trying since the land bank is a is a creation of the state it it is their baby literally discussion go ahead as a no member waters uh yeah that's enough okay discussion member johnson thank you madam president um i'm just wondering if the auditor general from the city is available um because the their most recent forensic audit of the detroit land bank was from 2014 through 2019 so just curious to know if they are ramping up to do a more updated forensic audit of the land bank um let's see mr washington if we can possibly trying to get get someone on from the auditor general's office i'm assuming no one is on now okay director wedger can we reach out if we can try to get someone um here or virtually from the auditor general's office or maybe you can bring us up to speed if you have any additional information about the past audit that was done if anything is forthcoming I know that there were specific madam president I know that there were specific issues involved before when the auditor general conducted their audit it was more of a performance audit is as I remember relative to their um the use of contaminated dirt etc that they did before how that arrived uh at no how they arrived at the conclusion they did um you know um you would have to really discuss it with them we LPD or rad at the time was not directly involved in any of that so I think you probably need to speak to the auditor general okay all right member waters we can um maybe push this to the end of the agenda or I'm not sure your timeline if maybe we can bring it back in a week to allow for some discussions with the auditor general um uh member johnson can make the motion since she signed it since she was uh go ahead member johnson make the motion to bring it back in a week if you want member johnson um madam president so I was just elevating that I'm not sure that the city's auditor general is working on something I'm not opposed to both entities um working on a forensic audit but I I'm not if if you'd like to bring it back in a week then um it's it's your work so move on we don't have any questions for the city's uh auditor general myself I I want to move forward okay all right I'm I just I just don't because I I just want to elevate this to the state level that's just my take okay all right was there any additional um discussion on this item this is 17.10 great and member waters did you already move uh for approval I'm not sure want to do that okay there's a motion to approve line item 17.10 a resolution requesting a forensic audit of the Detroit land bank authority by the Michigan office of the auditor audit or general um are there any objections hearing no objections the one resolution will be approved for the public health and safety standard yes like a waiver a waiver has been requested are there any objections to a waiver hearing no objections that action will be uh taken moving to the public health and safety committee from the Office of Contracting and procurement madam president council member Santiago Romero 16 resolutions noting that line items 18.1 through 18 point 15 are our construction and demolition contracts the madam president I will read the contract number and the contract amount contract number 308230 total contract amount 20590 contract number 3084474 total contract amount 29835 contract number 308246 total contract amount 19268 dollars contract number 307 6621 total contract amount

2:00:00

The madam president, I will read the contract number and the contract amount, contract number 308-2230, total contract amount 20,590.

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Contract number 308474, total contract amount 29,835, contract number 308-2246, total contract amount 19,268 dollars.

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Contract number 307621, total contract amount 27, 777, contract number 3085958, total contract amount 17,280.

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Contract number 3085960, total contract amount 18,912, contract number line item 18.7, contract number 308 6011, total contract amount 16,900, contract number 3086102, total contract amount 13,452, contract number 3086111, total contract amount 23,123, contract number 308 6114, total contract amount 15,711, contract number 3086122, total contract amount 16,000 contract number 3086180, total contract amount 24,39, line item 18.13, contract number 308 6329, total contract amount 16,800, contract number 3086333, total contract amount 27,750, contract number 6007402, total contract amount 3,500,000, contract number 6007056, 100% city funding to provide burn state crisis intervention program to manage youth violence prevention and other community policing programs, contract Detroit Public Safety Foundation, total contract amount 360,000, and that's for police.

2:02:23

Councilmember Santiago Romero, 16 resolutions, Councilmember Santiago Romero.

2:02:30

Thank you.

2:02:30

Motion to approve 18.1 through 18.16.

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Any discussion hearing none and hearing no objections, the resolutions will be approved from 18.1 through 18.16 from the Office of Development and Grants.

2:02:59

Councilmember Santiago Romero, a resolution line item 18.17.

2:03:05

Member Santiago Romero, thank you.

2:03:07

This is a cash donation to DPD Police Academy.

2:03:11

Uh motion to approve.

2:03:14

Hearing no objections, the one resolution will be approved.

2:03:17

Request a waiver, Madam President.

2:03:19

Hearing no objections, that action will be taken.

2:03:22

President.

2:03:22

Yes.

2:03:22

I'm sorry, before we go uh too far, I do apologize.

2:03:25

I'm looking at another item here, and I would like to reconsider uh the request of reconsideration of the vote for line item 18.8.

2:03:34

Uh have a few questions on that particular item.

2:03:36

Again, I apologize for that.

2:03:38

Who was item?

2:03:39

18.8.

2:03:40

Okay.

2:03:43

So okay, you want to move for discussion?

2:03:53

Um, I would prefer just bring back for one week.

2:03:56

Okay.

2:03:58

Okay.

2:03:58

All right.

2:03:59

Okay.

2:04:00

All right.

2:04:00

There's a motion to reconsider line items.

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Line item 18.8.

2:04:05

Any objections.

2:04:08

Hearing none, that action will be taken.

2:04:11

And um president Pro Tim would like to bring item 18.8 back in one week.

2:04:19

18.8.

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And if there are no objections, that action will be taken.

2:04:24

Thank you, Covenant.

2:04:25

All right, thank you.

2:04:30

From the Department of Public Works.

2:04:34

Council Member Santiago Romero, two resolutions, line item 18.18 and 18.19.

2:04:41

Member Santiago Romero.

2:04:43

Motion to approve.

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These are both banners for Werner Highway and Livernoy Corridor.

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Living New Avenue.

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Hearing no objections, the two resolutions will be approved.

2:04:57

Request a waiver, Madam President, for both items.

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Hearing no objections, a waiver will be attached to both items.

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Under resolutions.

2:05:07

Councilmember Angela Whitfield Callaway, three resolutions noting that line items 18.20 is on behalf of Council President Sheffield.

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Madam President.

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Councilmember Santiago Romero.

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Three resolutions, noting that line items 18.20 is on half of council president Mary Sheffield.

2:05:29

Member Santiago Romero.

2:05:31

Motion to approve 18.20.

2:05:34

All right.

2:05:34

18.20 is a resolution in support of the continuation of funding for the accessibility program.

2:05:43

Hearing no objections, the one resolution will be approved.

2:05:49

Member Santiago Romero.

2:05:53

Well, I can now turn it to Member Calloway.

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If you want to move 18.21 and 18.22, these are both resolutions on behalf of yourself.

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So move, madam chair.

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Thank you.

2:06:07

Okay.

2:06:08

18.21 is a resolution in support of House Bill 4517 and House Bill 4518, amending the Michigan Amber Alert Act in the Child Abduction Broadcast Act.

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Line item 18.22 is in support of Michigan Senate Bill 492.

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Are there any objections?

2:06:28

Hearing none, the two resolutions will be approved.

2:06:33

Under resolutions.

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Councilmember Young, a resolution.

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Line item 18.23.

2:06:40

Councilmember Young.

2:06:44

Thank you, ma'am.

2:06:44

President move to approve line item 18.23.

2:06:48

All right.

2:06:48

Line item 18.23 is a resolution in support of the federal government and state of Michigan continuing grant support for the focus hope hit start program.

2:07:01

Any objections?

2:07:04

Hearing none.

2:07:05

One resolution will be approved.

2:07:09

Moving to the new business portion of the agenda from the Office of Contracting and Procurement.

2:07:14

Councilmember Santiago Romero, five resolutions.

2:07:17

Line items 19.1 through 19.5.

2:07:21

Contract number 6006940, 100% state of Michigan EGLE, Brownfield Grant Funding to provide environmental assessment, remediation, and due care services for preserve on Ash 3 redevelopment project.

2:07:36

Contracted a community builder incorporated.

2:07:39

Total contract amount a million dollars.

2:07:42

That's for BC.

2:07:43

Contract number 6007191.

2:07:46

Madam President, I would like to note that this contract has been amended to read 100% special revenue funding to provide design bill services for renovations needed to repair and update the Linden Street facility located at 13331 Linden Street.

2:08:03

Total contract is DLC Consultants Incorporated.

2:08:07

Total contract amount 500,000.

2:08:10

That's for police.

2:08:11

Contract number 6007391, 100% grant funding to provide comprehensive navigation services for HIV and STIs.

2:08:21

Contractor Community Health Awareness Group CHAG Total Contract Amount 85,000.

2:08:27

That's for health.

2:08:28

Contract number 600 6087-A1.

2:08:32

100% opera funding.

2:08:34

Amendment one to provide an extension of time only for evaluation services for the SHOSTOPR CBI program.

2:08:42

Contractor Regents of the University of Michigan.

2:08:46

Total contract amount 377,025.

2:08:50

That's for health.

2:08:52

Last contract is contract number 6006740-A1.

2:08:57

100% city funding.

2:08:59

Amendment one to provide a two-year renewal for the rise to care program.

2:09:04

Contractor CCM Consulting Group LLC.

2:09:07

Total contract amount 725,000.

2:09:10

That's for health.

2:09:12

Council Member Santiago Romero, five resolutions.

2:09:16

Member Santiago Romero.

2:09:18

Thank you, Madam President.

2:09:19

Um, through you to Madam Clerk, just want to confirm that for 19.2.

2:09:24

The revenue scheme was corrected, correct?

2:09:28

Through you, Madam President, to Member Santiago, yes, it was correct.

2:09:31

Okay, thank you.

2:09:32

Madam President, motion to approve 19.1 through 19.5.

2:09:38

All right, any discussion.

2:09:44

Any objections?

2:09:48

Hearing no objections.

2:09:53

The five resolutions will be approved.

2:09:55

Thank you, Madam President.

2:09:56

Request a waiver for 19.

2:10:00

19.1, 19.3, 19.4, and 19.5.

2:10:09

Right.

2:10:09

Any objections to a waiver on those items.

2:10:12

Okay.

2:10:14

All right.

2:10:15

Hearing none, that action will be taken.

2:10:17

Mayor President.

2:10:18

Councilmember Young.

2:10:19

I'll let you uh waiver on my item 18.25.

2:10:22

18.23.

2:10:25

Okay.

2:10:25

Uh, is there any objection to a waiver for the resolution in support of the focus hope kid start program?

2:10:33

Hearing no objections, a waiver will be attached to 18.23.

2:10:41

From the Office of Contracting and Procurement.

2:10:44

Councilmember Young, three resolutions, line items 19.6 through 19.8.

2:10:50

Contract number 6005842-A3, 100% opera funding.

2:10:55

Amendment three to provide an extension of time and an increase of funds for athletic equipment for the Williams and Coleman Young Recreation Centers.

2:11:05

Contractor BSN Scores LLC.

2:11:08

Total contract amount 442,000.

2:11:11

That's the general services.

2:11:13

Contract number 6005099-82.

2:11:17

100% city funding.

2:11:19

Amendment two to provide an increase of funds only for fleet heavy duty truck repair.

2:11:24

Contractor certified alignment and suspension incorporated.

2:11:28

Total contract amount 440,000.

2:11:31

That's for general services.

2:11:33

Contract number 6004150-A2, 100% city funding.

2:11:40

Amendment 2 to provide an extension of time and an increase of funds for the city's parking ticket and collections management system.

2:11:49

Contractor, Madaxo Traffic Management, USA Incorporated.

2:11:53

Total contract amount 10 million 914, 801 dollars.

2:11:59

That's for municipal parking.

2:12:01

Councilmember Young, three resolutions.

2:12:04

Councilmember Young.

2:12:06

Um thank you.

2:12:08

I would like to move to approve line items 19.6 through 19.8.

2:12:14

Right.

2:12:14

Any objections?

2:12:16

Discussion.

2:12:16

Member Callaway.

2:12:18

Thank you, madam chair.

2:12:18

Um, is there anyone on from contracts for municipal parking?

2:12:23

We had extensive discussions regarding line item 19.8.

2:12:27

Um Modasco traffic management USA, whether or not their tax clearances are cut.

2:12:34

Oh last week they were not.

2:12:36

We said we would not move this pending.

2:12:40

Okay.

2:12:40

Do you have an update?

2:12:41

Yeah, I was gonna say I'm sorry.

2:12:42

I'm sorry, Callaway.

2:12:44

Um, Madam President, I mean speak.

2:12:46

Uh um, we need to postpone line item on 19.8 because OCP informed me that the vendor is still waiting for the tax clearance.

2:12:54

I apologize.

2:12:54

I skipped it in my haste to pass it.

2:12:57

So um do I need do we need to reconsider it again?

2:13:02

I don't we didn't finish the vote.

2:13:03

Oh, we can move forward with 19.8.

2:13:06

So should I just say move to approve 19.6 and 19.7 and then postpone 19.8 or shall I postpone 19.8 first.

2:13:12

Dr.

2:13:12

Powers, please.

2:13:17

Okay.

2:13:20

Thank you, Mayor President.

2:13:21

I like to move to approve the postpone.

2:13:25

Oh, you still want to you still want to yeah?

2:13:27

I mean, usually Dr.

2:13:28

Powell's checks us, but I still have the floor.

2:13:30

Member Calvary, it's still discussion time.

2:13:38

Okay, okay, member calloway.

2:13:39

Thank you, Chair.

2:13:40

I'm done.

2:13:40

You're done.

2:13:41

Okay.

2:13:44

Okay.

2:13:44

Okay, there's a motion to postpone 19.8 for one week.

2:13:49

Any objections hearing none, that item will be postponed for one week.

2:13:56

And then member young, if you can move the two other items.

2:13:59

Thank you.

2:14:00

Yes, I like to move to approve line item 19.6 through 19.7.

2:14:04

All right, are there any objections on those two items?

2:14:09

Hearing none, the two resolutions will be approved.

2:14:13

Yes.

2:14:14

Uh, thank you, uh, Madam President.

2:14:15

I like the move to approve.

2:14:16

I like to move to uh after waiver for line items 19.6 and 19.7.

2:14:23

Hearing no objections, the waiver will be attached to both items from the office of development and grants.

2:14:30

Council member Santiago Romero, two resolutions, line items 19.9 and 19.10.

2:14:38

Member Santiago Ramiro.

2:14:40

Thank you, Madam President.

2:14:41

19.9 is to accept a battery electric buses and charging infrastructure grants.

2:14:47

And 19.10 is a grant application to the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services for the Fire Arms Safety Grant.

2:14:54

Move to approve both items.

2:14:56

Right.

2:14:57

Any objections?

2:15:00

Hearing none, the two resolutions will be approved.

2:15:02

Request a waiver on both items.

2:15:06

Hearing no objections, a waiver will be attached to both items.

2:15:10

Thank you.

2:15:12

From the Department of City Work City from the Department of Public Works, City Engineering Division.

2:15:18

Councilmember Santiago Romero, a resolution line item 19.11.

2:15:24

Yes.

2:15:25

Member Santiago Romero.

2:15:27

Thank you, Madam President.

2:15:28

This is a request for encroachments for a sign.

2:15:31

Motion to approve.

2:15:34

Hearing no objections, the one resolution will be approved.

2:15:38

Thank you.

2:15:40

For the president's report on standing committee referrals and other matters, Madam President.

2:15:46

Before you do the uh referrals, we do have a walk on um postponement from last week that was missed from this agenda today.

2:15:55

Yes, and you are correct.

2:15:57

Item is for the petition request to hold the trap tailgate on October the 12th, 2025 from 1 p.m.

2:16:06

to 7 p.m.

2:16:07

on October the 12th at Rose Bell Park.

2:16:11

Petition number 2025-207.

2:16:22

Yeah, I I thought that well discussion, may I yeah, I I I'm from my understanding.

2:16:31

I mean, and I guess I'll talk to the member Romero about this, but I know that they said they wanted to pull this off of the agenda, but they also want to talk about um outreach.

2:16:46

And I understand how difficult it is to get these things on the agenda.

2:16:51

So I didn't know if we want to give this at least uh extra week of time for them to be able to have a meeting or decide they want to give extra outreach before we just pull this off the agenda.

2:17:01

But that's what I was thinking.

2:17:02

I mean, if this I mean, in your mind, is this something that they clearly decided?

2:17:06

I wanted to at least give them that time, know how difficult it is to get these things on the agenda, but through you, Madam President, to member young.

2:17:14

I'm actually not sure what the polling or taking is.

2:17:18

Um, I'm I'm okay with moving this forward.

2:17:20

They are doing outreach.

2:17:21

Uh, the block club members are meeting with the event organizers, so I have no further questions or issues.

2:17:27

Okay, um, just for clarity to the clerk, did this just not get added to our calendar for today?

2:17:33

We need to add it.

2:17:34

Um, it's the same item to be discussed, correct?

2:17:36

Yes, okay.

2:17:37

Madam President, through you to member Santiago Romero and Member Young.

2:17:41

This item was on formal session last Tuesday the 9th, and the motion was made to postpone it for a week due to member Santiago's questioning.

2:17:50

However, it should have still shown up today as a postponement under the new business agenda, and it just mistakenly did not show up.

2:17:59

So this would have been your regular postponement coming back today anyway.

2:18:03

Yeah, Madam President, through you to member young.

2:18:05

So I'm okay with today that this movie being moved forward.

2:18:08

I think we simply have to walk it on.

2:18:09

It was a mistake that it was left off, and we can vote it through today.

2:18:13

Happy to ask for a waiver as well.

2:18:15

Okay.

2:18:18

So I I yeah.

2:18:20

Hold on, one second, Mr.

2:18:21

Washington.

2:18:21

Member Young.

2:18:22

I was gonna say maybe Mr.

2:18:23

Washington provides some clarity because from what I was told was that the folks that were doing this wanted to remove this from the agenda.

2:18:31

That's what that's that's what I was told.

2:18:33

We were gonna move this forward to remove it off the agenda.

2:18:36

I didn't see why that was, but if that's the will of the body, you know, I'm I'm not gonna fight this.

2:18:43

Um, but I just wanted I just want some clarity from the administration.

2:18:48

Do they are do they wish to remove this from the agenda?

2:18:52

Have they decided they don't want to do this anymore?

2:18:54

Or was it based on outreach?

2:18:57

Because if from what I'm hearing, they're doing the outreach, so I don't know why they wouldn't want to do the event.

2:19:02

Mr.

2:19:02

Washington, yes, through the chair.

2:19:04

Um, that is correct.

2:19:05

We are requesting that it be removed um at the request of the petitioner.

2:19:09

I believe they wanted to do more marketing for the event.

2:19:12

Um, so I'm sure it's something related to demand, but that is what was communicated to me.

2:19:16

Okay.

2:19:17

Okay.

2:19:18

All right, no doubt.

2:19:19

All right.

2:19:19

So um, this is not even on the agenda, so do we need to we don't need to take any action then at this year?

2:19:24

I didn't think so.

2:19:25

Okay.

2:19:25

Why?

2:19:25

Okay, sorry.

2:19:26

So we will leave that item as is, and then line item 17.7 on the agenda.

2:19:32

You still have more on that one?

2:19:33

Yes, member Santiago Ramiro.

2:19:35

So sorry, to Mr.

2:19:36

Washington.

2:19:37

Um I think the date is for next month.

2:19:40

So are we not going to hold the events because we still need to approve um their application?

2:19:48

So just wondering, are they planning to not have the event at all?

2:19:52

Uh, because it's it's relatively soon, it would be next month.

2:19:56

Yes, through the chair, I believe they are planning to not hold the event at all.

2:20:00

We do have Yukima Fife from special events who may have some additional feedback if she can be promoted.

2:20:06

Okay, we will promote her now.

2:20:20

This is not on the agenda.

2:20:32

Good afternoon, honorable council.

2:20:35

Good afternoon.

2:20:37

Uh through the chair, I just like to add that the organizer would like to postpone the event until 2026.

2:20:44

All the require the requirements that we need from DPD, in addition to um the request that we already asked for through member uh Santiago Romero, they don't have time to complete all of those.

2:20:56

They want to get a better lay of the land and understand exactly what all they need to do and have all the contracts in place.

2:21:02

So, as they said, they appreciate our partnership with helping helping them with this process.

2:21:07

They just need more time and they want to postpone it to 2026.

2:21:12

Uh, through the chair, thank you.

2:21:14

That's incredibly helpful to know.

2:21:16

Um, and happy to help with this as well and doing whatever outreach is needed that they're gonna come back to do this next year.

2:21:22

Um, and are you are you with the Lions?

2:21:26

Are you just the higher the last yeah four field?

2:21:29

Yes, yes, I'm sorry, yes, for one.

2:21:33

I used to work there, so I I know those floors well.

2:21:37

Okay, well, thank you.

2:21:37

Thank you, madam president.

2:21:39

All right, thank you.

2:21:40

Discussion, member Johnson.

2:21:42

Thank you, madam president.

2:21:43

Through you to Miss Scife.

2:21:45

If you can please just let the organizers know that the information for their event this year is still on their website and part of their flyer for this year's tour.

2:21:57

So if you can just ask them to adjust that to reflect that they are will not be in Detroit this year.

2:22:05

Absolutely, we'll do.

2:22:07

Thank you.

2:22:07

Thank you, madam president.

2:22:08

Well, we have one more before I go.

2:22:11

Yeah, okay.

2:22:11

Okay, thank you so much.

2:22:14

All right, so um now we're gonna go back to 17.7, which was postponed from earlier.

2:22:22

Um, this was the proposed zoning changes, actually a 17 scheduling of the public hearing.

2:22:29

Uh, do we have director Todd available?

2:22:32

Madam President, to you.

2:22:35

Um, I have spoken with Director Todd off the line.

2:22:38

I'm okay with moving this forward.

2:22:39

Okay, I have no other questions.

2:22:41

Okay, all right.

2:22:44

All right, so um President Pro Tem Tate.

2:22:47

If you can move 17.8 again for the scheduling of a public hearing, Madam President, I move to discuss line item 17.8.

2:22:59

For approval, she's good to go.

2:23:01

Oh, she's good.

2:23:01

Yeah, if she's move approval item 17.8.

2:23:04

Okay, all right.

2:23:06

And hearing no objections, the resolution will be approved for the scheduling of a public hearing for 17.8.

2:23:15

All right, and you had a walk-home protest.

2:23:18

Yes, ma'am.

2:23:19

I'd like to through you, Madam President, walk on the and everyone should have a copy of it.

2:23:24

It is the resolution setting the public hearing for the secondary street sign applications uh process that we have slated for October 23rd, 2025.

2:23:38

Okay.

2:23:39

Oh, I'll share we don't have one, we'll share.

2:23:47

But it's the the secondary uh street um public hearing for the secondary street process that will take place uh October 23rd, 2025 at 1010 a.m.

2:24:00

in the committee of the whole PED.

2:24:03

Okay, any discussion on the resolution.

2:24:06

This is uh to be walked on for a vote.

2:24:08

So the motion is to walk this on to new business.

2:24:11

Move uh to send to new business.

2:24:14

Okay.

2:24:15

Hearing no objections, that action will be taken.

2:24:19

And there is now a motion to approve.

2:24:22

Move approval of the resolution regarding secondary street ordinance for the public hearing.

2:24:28

Okay, any objections hearing none, that action will be taken.

2:24:35

Thank you.

2:24:38

All right, for the president's report on standing committee referrals and other matters for the internal operations committee.

2:24:46

Six reports from various city departments.

2:24:49

These six reports will be referred to the planning and economic development standing committee.

2:25:06

Four reports from various city departments.

2:25:09

The four reports will be referred under the consent agenda.

2:25:13

There are no items, madam president.

2:25:15

Okay.

2:25:16

We will call for member reports.

2:25:18

Madam President.

2:25:19

Yes.

2:25:20

Before we go to member reports, if we can ask the auditor general to come forward, I know we move forward on the resolution to request the uh forensic audit of the state's auditor general, but I would like to find out if the city's auditor general is in a position to provide an updated forensic audit on the Detroit Land Bank Authority.

2:25:53

Good morning.

2:25:54

Well, good afternoon.

2:25:55

Good afternoon.

2:25:56

Flora Goodsby, Auditor General, Office Office of the Auditor General.

2:26:01

And in response to your uh questions, we certainly are in a position to conduct a follow-up of actually a forensic follow-up audit to our demolition citywide demolition audit.

2:26:15

As you may recall, we spent a great deal of time during that audit.

2:26:21

Uh it spanned of four years, but there were several items that we put for a future audit that we could not conclude or work on doing the first audit.

2:26:33

Our plan would be to outsource this particular type of audit to a firm that has the uh expertise, including the forensic skill level as well as legal um uh attorneys on you know for for this particular firm.

2:26:51

So we certainly could conduct a follow-up audit on the demolition, madam president.

2:26:59

Yeah, um, through you to the auditor general, do you have the financial resources to be able to take on a forensic audit at this time?

2:27:09

Yes, we do.

2:27:10

Thanks to uh through through the chair, thanks to the city council passing the proportional funding ordinance for the oversight agencies.

2:27:20

We do have sufficient funding in uh our contractual services to begin such an audit.

2:27:27

And I will say this is a great time to um undertake such an audit as I'm in the process of finalizing our next two-year audit plan.

2:27:38

Thank you.

2:27:40

Thank you, Member Johnson.

2:27:42

Member Young.

2:27:43

Thank you.

2:27:44

Good to see you.

2:27:45

I just want to make sure I get this clear just for clarification.

2:27:48

So you're saying that, and when I'm talking about a forensic audit, what I'm referring to is a forensic audit that is used to collect data and information based on gathering uh evidence of fraud and corruption for the purposes of presenting before trial.

2:28:04

You are saying that you have the money to be in the city, would have the finances to be able to engage in that over the land bank.

2:28:14

We have this, we have the funding to engage an outside contractor that has the sufficient skill level to conduct such an audit.

2:28:25

I will say this to pay the contract, to pay the contractor.

2:28:30

Um, as a result of our initial audit, there are folks that we uncovered.

2:28:37

We uncovered some of the fraud that was going on uh with the federal funds working through MISHTA and with the land bank, and so as a result of our audit, there were several uh criminal activities that weren't covered.

2:28:53

Uh, folks are still in jail because of some of the activities that we uncovered during our audit.

2:29:00

So we certainly have this some of the skill sets in house, but that's what we do.

2:29:06

We are uh able to conduct these types of forensic audits, and again, where we need to add additional high-level higher level skill set.

2:29:17

That is why what we contract through an outside services.

2:29:21

Let me be clear.

2:29:22

I am not questioning your skill set.

2:29:23

I know you're the baddest in the land.

2:29:25

I get that.

2:29:25

That's not what I'm questioning.

2:29:27

I'm just questioning the financial impact because every time I've had this conversation throughout my entire career, the first thing I am told is that the cost is prohibited.

2:29:39

And then if you were going to do this, you would have to be very in a concentrated matter.

2:29:44

You have either contracts or certain aspect, not the entire entity of anything of the city or anything.

2:29:51

And I just want to make sure I get this abundantly clear.

2:29:53

You're saying over the entire land bank that we would have the finances be a contract or process to be able to pay for that to be done.

2:30:03

Yeah.

2:30:04

Well, certainly I would look to this council through the chair to uh help us narrow the scope of work that you want us to focus on.

2:30:13

Our first audit was a citywide demolition audit.

2:30:16

It included eight departments ranging from DBA to uh the land bank working with the state of Michigan again, a very exhaustive audit that we were able to complete.

2:30:31

Okay, thank you.

2:30:32

Thank you, Mayor.

2:30:33

I'm done.

2:30:36

Any additional questions?

2:30:38

All right, thank you so much, Auditor General.

2:30:41

Good.

2:30:41

Thank you.

2:30:41

We appreciate you, ma'am.

2:30:45

All right, we will now move to the consent agenda.

2:30:51

There are no items, Madam President.

2:30:53

We will call for member reports.

2:30:56

And we will start with member Callaway.

2:30:59

Thank you, Madam Chair.

2:31:00

Thank you so much, madam chair.

2:31:02

Um join us this Saturday at um Northwest Activity Center, the Detroit Women's Commission.

2:31:09

We'll be hosting a business women's forum.

2:31:13

If you are a woman and you're anticipating going in business, wanting to go in business or are in business, this is the place to be this Saturday, um, 10 a.m.

2:31:22

at the Northwest Activity Center.

2:31:23

It is a free resource fair, and it's for women, business owners or women who are aspiring.

2:31:31

Um business owners.

2:31:34

And if you need resources, contacts want to network, Saturday, Northwest Activity Center, 10 a.m.

2:31:40

The Detroit Women's Commission, Women in Business Summit.

2:31:45

Then the same time, same day, we will be at the Mathis Community Center on Greenfield, and it's for our expungement fair.

2:31:53

We will have our chief of police top bedison there, Judge Mathis, Jake Mathis, and myself.

2:32:00

That is at 1930 Greenfield.

2:32:03

If you need your um records expunge, and if you don't even think you need your records exponential, come if you have questions, you'll get all your questions questions answered at the Judge Mathis Community Center on Greenfield 1930, and it's an outdoor event.

2:32:19

We hope that you will um register first.

2:32:22

You can call my office to get registration information at 224 4535.

2:32:28

And then on the 25th of September, we've been working with the um Secretary of State's office, roll to restoration.

2:32:36

If you need to get your license, your driver's license restored.

2:32:39

There is an event at the Eastern Market and Shed 5 at 10 a.m.

2:32:43

on Thursday, the 25th, and you will have an opportunity to learn how to get your driver's license restored.

2:32:50

You'll be able to meet with Michigan Department of State staff, volunteers, and attorneys.

2:32:55

And this is another free event.

2:32:57

So that is Thursday, September the 25th from 10 a.m.

2:33:00

to 4 a.m.

2:33:01

Eastern Market Shed 5.

2:33:03

Roll to Restoration.

2:33:05

That completes my members' report, madam chair.

2:33:08

Thank you.

2:33:08

All right.

2:33:08

Thank you, Member Calloway, Member Durha.

2:33:11

Thank you, Madam President.

2:33:13

And want to invite everybody to our 28th policy session taking place Monday, September 22nd from 6 p.m.

2:33:19

to 7 30 p.m.

2:33:20

at the Edison Library, located at 1840 Joy Road.

2:33:24

Uh, and we will be discussing the importance of voting, why voting is important.

2:33:29

Uh, if you have not attended our policy uh sessions before in the past, I do encourage you to come out.

2:33:35

Great opportunity to learn alongside fellow residents about key issues as well as policy.

2:33:41

Again, that's taking place Monday this uh um excuse me, Monday, September 22nd from 6 p.m.

2:33:47

to 7 30 p.m.

2:33:48

at the Edison Library.

2:33:50

Also, our district 7 community engagement meeting will be taking place Tuesday, September the 30th from 6 p.m.

2:33:57

to 7:30 p.m.

2:33:58

at St.

2:33:58

Suzanne Cody Rouge Community Resource Center, located at 1932 West Chicago.

2:34:04

That's 1932 1 West Chicago.

2:34:07

Uh, there will be resources and city departments available at our community engagement meeting.

2:34:12

So if you are a resident, we are inviting you to come out and have access to those resources.

2:34:18

Again, that is our community engagement meeting for District 7 taking place Tuesday, September the 30th from 6 p.m.

2:34:25

to 7:30 p.m.

2:34:26

at the Cody Roots uh Community Resource Center at St.

2:34:29

Suzanne.

2:34:30

Uh, hope to see you there.

2:34:31

Thank you, madam president.

2:34:32

Thank you, Member Durha, Member Johnson.

2:34:36

Uh no report.

2:34:37

All right.

2:34:37

Thank you, Member Johnson, Member Vincent.

2:34:40

All right, thank you.

2:34:40

Uh please save the date, Tuesday, September 30th for our district three housing resource fair.

2:34:47

This will be September 30th from 6 p.m.

2:34:50

to 8 p.m.

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Tuesday at Lasky Recreation Center, which is 1320 13200 Fenlawn Street, be just east of Conant on Charles, just east of Conan on Charles.

2:35:06

Save the date, Tuesday, September 30th, 6 p.m.

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to 8 p.m.

2:35:09

for the Lasky at the Lasky Recreation Center for the District 3 Housing Resource Fair.

2:35:14

And we have over 16 strategic partners, resource providers, and departments from the city of Detroit that will be in attendance.

2:35:22

Thank you.

2:35:23

Thank you, Member Benson.

2:35:24

Member Waters.

2:35:29

Thank you, Madam President.

2:35:30

Just want just a reminder that the Skill Trade Task Force will be tomorrow at the Compranters and Miller Right Center, located at 11687 American Street.

2:35:46

And it's from 4 to 6 p.m.

2:35:49

The skill trade task force.

2:35:51

I've been running into a number of young people out there.

2:35:54

So I hope they will participate as they said they would, come out.

2:36:00

And oftentimes, Madam President, as you know, young people end up, and not just so young people either.

2:36:07

I mean, all ages end up with the job.

2:36:09

They can start the next day.

2:36:12

Because you've been present at many of those appreciation of those meetings.

2:36:18

You and Member Young.

2:36:21

And so and thank you all for for the partnership as well.

2:36:26

Again, tomorrow, 4 to 6 p.m.

2:36:30

at the American at the um Copper's Mirror Rice Um Training Center, 11687 American Street.

2:36:40

Thank you, Madam President.

2:36:42

Thank you so much, Member Waters.

2:36:44

Member Santiago Rivero.

2:36:46

Thank you, Madam President.

2:36:47

I welcome everyone to join us for our September Coffee Council and conversation this Thursday, September 18th from 11 to 12 p.m.

2:36:54

We'll be at the Dallas Branch, Detroit's public library.

2:36:58

Our next office hour is going to be on Monday, September 22nd at Bridging Communities from 3 to 5 p.m.

2:37:04

You will be there if you need any assistance.

2:37:06

We'll love to check in to see how you're doing.

2:37:23

Also just want to make a note over the weekends.

2:37:36

On one on one of the owners, we are looking to have her uh be released soon.

2:37:41

Hopefully she's released today with bonds.

2:37:43

Um and I'm working with the administration to really better our and streamline our process for food truck um food vendors in the city.

2:37:51

Um right now, too many of them I'm hearing are being shut down, feeling harassed by fire police.

2:37:56

And I want to make sure that the city is actually I want to make sure the city's actually supporting our entrepreneurs.

2:38:03

I mean not making it more difficult for them to do business in the city of Detroit.

2:38:06

Thank you, Madam President.

2:38:08

All right, thank you, Councilmember Santiago Ramiro, Pro Tem Tate.

2:38:12

Thank you, Madam President.

2:38:13

I want to take this time to uh recognize two individuals that we lost over the last couple of days.

2:38:20

And when I conclude, I would ask for a moment of silence.

2:38:23

Um is Mr.

2:38:24

Jeffrey Thomas, who is the uh patriarch, if you will, of the Thomas family, the uh family that is responsible for the sweet potato sensations uh over in District One off of Lasser.

2:38:37

Uh the business has been uh up and going for 37 years.

2:38:41

Um, and we're going to uh do everything we can to continue to uh keep them in our prayers and keep them lifted, provide all kind of positive energy towards them.

2:38:52

They are closed right now as they are in their moment of grief.

2:38:55

And again, when they uh decide that they're ready to reopen, we're gonna be there with open arms, welcoming them.

2:39:02

Uh, to give you just a little bit more background on Mr.

2:39:04

Thomas, uh, he is the co-founder and co-owner of Sweet Potato Sensations again, 37 years of existence, uh just shy of 49 years of marriage, uh, and just shy of his 73rd uh birthday.

2:39:18

Uh so he did pass away from natural causes.

2:39:21

We uh send our best to his family's wife Cassandra and daughters Espy and Jennifer as well.

2:39:27

Uh we he will be missed, but we'll ensure that uh his legacy lives on well beyond even our time here.

2:39:34

Uh the second individual, unfortunately, he passed uh yesterday, two days ago.

2:39:39

This is uh Eric Ford uh of the Detroit 300, another giant within our community, no matter where you were.

2:39:47

Um if you were in the space of gun violence prevention, uh you knew this man and you know the work as well.

2:40:00

Um very uh saddened to hear about his passing, uh but look forward to continuing to support the Detroit 300, who has unfortunately lost a number of their leaders uh to natural causes over the years since they uh began operating, and it just again shows you the tremendous amount of stress and heartache and heartbreak that these individuals uh who um take on this massive, massive, massive charge of trying to improve our community, the the weight that they put on themselves.

2:40:29

So we need to always take the time to provide them with the space that is necessary for them to also uh uh decompress uh when it all possible.

2:40:39

Um, and if they're not able to show up at an event, it's all right because you understand what they're up against on a daily basis.

2:40:46

So again, want to also lift up the uh name and legacy of brother Eric Ford, president of the Detroit 300.

2:40:54

And again, colleagues, I ask if we can take a moment of silence for these two agire of men within our community.

2:41:00

Thank you, Pro Tim.

2:41:16

Thank you, Madam President.

2:41:17

Thank you, Belly.

2:41:18

All right, thank you, Pro Tim Tate.

2:41:20

Uh Councilmember Young.

2:41:22

Thank you, man.

2:41:23

I just wanted to say that I had so much fun.

2:41:25

I was honored to go to District 7, Detroit Deerborne community, the annual block party where I met with Mr.

2:41:31

Hassine and had a lot of good time and fun there, and also was at the aviation community as well.

2:41:37

That was really good.

2:41:38

And then still in District 7, I mozied over, LOL walking very slow to the Buffalo Soldiers and Blues Freedom Festival at River Rouge, where I met with Ishmael Terry and Commander Nelson and had a great time over there.

2:41:53

And I want to thank um Councilman Durha for allowing me to be in his great district.

2:41:58

Then I went to Daisy Jackson's birthday at Buttsell District, Miss Daisy, formerly asked me, and she supported me when I first ran as a state rep.

2:42:09

So way back then I was 23 back then.

2:42:13

I'm 42 now.

2:42:14

That was a long time ago.

2:42:16

So I just wanted to say uh thank you to her as well as to the council president for allowing me to be in her great district.

2:42:22

And then I walked over to Eastern East Warren Market Festival, 4th district, purchased lots of cookies and snacks and other things.

2:42:32

I had no business eating, and uh got some shirts and went over there and had some good times.

2:42:38

And so I met with Joe Rashid and executive director of Warren Development.

2:42:42

So I want to say thank you to uh Councilwoman Johnson for allowing me to be in her district.

2:42:47

And that is the end of my member report.

2:42:49

Thank you, madam president.

2:42:51

All right, thank you so much, Councilmember Young.

2:42:55

Uh, and just tonight we are hosting um in partnership with the Department of Neighborhoods in our office.

2:43:01

Uh welcome to District Five, uh, which will be an opportunity for some of the new portions of District Five to get immersed with their new uh representatives uh and the resources that will be available in District 5.

2:43:15

That will take place this evening at 6 p.m.

2:43:18

3331 Finkel Avenue.

2:43:21

Uh again, that is tonight at 6 p.m.

2:43:23

3331 Finkel Avenue.

2:43:25

Come out to meet your Department of Neighborhoods, myself, our staff, uh, and others will be on site to welcome uh some of the new residents, block clubs, and areas uh into District Five.

2:43:36

And yeah, that will be held tonight at 3331 Finco Avenue at 6 p.m.

2:43:50

All right, we will go back to our agenda under adoption without committee reference.

2:43:57

There are no items, madam president under communications from the clerk.

2:44:02

A report on approval of proceedings by the mayor.

2:44:05

The report will be received and placed on file under testimonial resolutions and special privilege.

2:44:11

Councilmember Benson.4.

2:44:20

Oh, he's over there.

2:44:22

Okay.

2:44:26

Hearing no objections, the four resolutions will be approved.

2:44:30

Under resolutions and special privilege.

2:44:33

Councilmember Johnson, two resolutions, line items 28.5 and 28.6.

2:44:39

Councilmember Johnson.

2:44:40

Move for approval.

2:44:43

Hearing no objections, the two resolutions will be approved.

2:44:48

Under testimonial resolutions.

2:44:50

Councilmember Santiago Romero, a resolution line item 28.7.

2:44:56

Member Santiago Ramira.

2:44:58

Motion to approve.

2:45:00

Hearing no objections, that action will be taken.

2:45:04

And before we adjourn, um, Councilmember Johnson's birthday is this Sunday.

2:45:08

We want to wish you a happy, happy birthday.

2:45:12

Member Johnson.

2:45:14

And from my understanding, I think your team has some stuff in the back as well for to celebrate her birthday.

2:45:21

All right.

2:45:21

Happy early birthday.

2:45:24

All right.

2:45:24

If there is nothing else to come before us today, is there a motion to adjourn?

2:45:29

All right.

2:45:29

This meeting will stand adjourned.

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Summary of Proceedings

Detroit City Council Regular Session – September 16, 2025

The Detroit City Council convened on September 16, 2025, at approximately 10:00 a.m. for a regular formal session. The meeting opened with a prayer led by Councilmember Coleman A. Young II and included a special presentation honoring Transportation Riders United (TRUE) for its 25th anniversary of transit advocacy. The council then heard public comments from residents on a range of topics, including property tax overpayments, police accountability, vendor displacement, voting rights, and community development. Following public comment, the council considered numerous contracts, resolutions, and discussion items, including a resolution requesting a forensic audit of the Detroit Land Bank Authority (eventually approved), a contract to rent Detroit Public Schools buildings for elections (approved after debate), and a postponement of the TraP Tailgate event. The meeting concluded with member reports and adjournment.

Consent Calendar

  • Routine approvals of meeting minutes.
  • Adoption of multiple consent agenda items without separate discussion.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • In-Person Speakers:

    • Branetta Moore: Expressed concern about theft at a shelter and lack of access to replacement clothing.
    • Betty Lyons: Raised allegations about $600 million in overpaid property taxes and accused city officials of withholding funds.
    • Brenda Allen: Praised Councilmember Coleman A. Young II for assisting with her roof repair.
    • Sharon Williams: Criticized the Detroit Police Department for allegedly employing individuals with criminal records and failing to protect citizens.
    • Melissa Love: Demanded removal from voter rolls and accused the council of misusing taxpayer funds and neglecting Detroit residents.
    • Ramon Jackson: Presented USB drives with voter data, alleging fraudulent voting by jailed individuals using the county jail address.
    • Jocelyn Jackson: Raised issues about vendor displacement at Campus Martius Park by Glowworks, claiming lack of city support.
    • Joshua Lamere: Requested funding for a bird sanctuary pocket park at 2000 Woodward Avenue and praised Councilmember Angela Callaway.
    • Mr. Cunningham (public transit advocate): Thanked council for supporting public transportation, noted rider concerns about route reliability, and promoted the TRUE gala.
    • Pastor Lamonzo Sewell: Raised concerns about voting procedures for incarcerated individuals and requested assistance with property drainage fees for his church.
    • Grace Howard: Questioned how Glowworks obtained control of Campus Martius Park, displacing long-time vendors.
    • Barbara Logan: Criticized council for sometimes contradicting public comment, stating it silences residents.
    • Rhino Foster: Emphasized free speech and warned against political violence and oppression.
  • Online Callers:

    • William M. Davis: Opposed Mayor Duggan's use of surplus funds to cover tax revenue declines, urged focus on retirees and poor residents.
    • Hira Ahmed: Accused Mayor Duggan and Council President Sheffield of mismanaging funds and neglecting homeless and retirees.
    • Stephen Haring: Criticized a recent Palestine conference in Detroit, alleging terrorist rhetoric, and expressed support for Israel's right to exist.
    • Multiple callers echoed themes of property tax overpayment, voter suppression, and the need for term limits.
    • Tyson Gersh: Discussed BZA transcript fees, arguing city council never approved a pass-through to a private vendor and suggested using video recordings instead of costly transcripts.
    • Crystal Rice: Highlighted lack of response to community issues, praised Mary Waters for addressing voter questions, and criticized council for not prioritizing black-owned businesses.
    • Miko A. Williams: Advised Council President Sheffield not to accept endorsements from Mayor Duggan or Santi Ojinga, and decried police harassment.
    • Cina Brown Anderson: Criticized the public comment process as demeaning, demanded audits of the land bank, and called for reforms to election procedures and alcohol licensing.

Discussion Items

  • Presentation for Transportation Riders United (TRUE): Councilmember Gabriela Santiago-Romero presented a testimonial resolution celebrating TRUE's 25th anniversary. TRUE's director spoke about advocacy achievements and invited council to a gala on September 25, 2025. The resolution was approved unanimously.
  • Contract for Detroit Public Schools Polling Places (Item 16.1): A $297,653 contract to rent DPS buildings for August and November 2025 elections drew debate. Council members questioned why the city now pays for school use (since 2022) and expressed concerns about scope creep and budget impact. The administration cited post-pandemic inflation and difficulty finding accessible locations. The contract was approved, with a waiver attached.
  • Forensic Audit of Detroit Land Bank Authority (Item 17.10): Councilmember Mary Waters introduced a resolution requesting the Michigan Office of the Auditor General conduct a forensic audit. Councilmember Scott Benson advocated for using the city's own auditor general, citing cost and control. After discussion, including input from Auditor General Flora Goodsby who confirmed the office has resources and plans to conduct a follow-up forensic audit, the council approved the resolution (objections none). A waiver was also granted.
  • Zoning and Public Hearing Items (Items 17.5-17.8): Multiple zoning ordinance introductions and public hearing settings were approved, including a rezoning for retail sales at a farm/insider operation and a public hearing set for October 16, 2025. Item 17.8 (rezoning coordination) was postponed for community engagement updates but later moved forward after consultation with the city planning commission.
  • Contract for Municipal Parking System (Item 19.8): A $10.9 million contract with Madaxo Traffic Management was postponed for one week due to pending tax clearance, as noted by the Office of Contracting and Procurement.
  • TraP Tailgate Event (Walk-On): The event originally scheduled for October 12, 2025 at Rose Bell Park was withdrawn at the petitioner's request; postponement to 2026 was confirmed by the special events department.
  • Secondary Street Sign Ordinance (Walk-On): A resolution setting a public hearing for October 23, 2025 was approved.

Key Outcomes

  • Approved: Resolution honoring Transportation Riders United (TRUE).
  • Approved: Multi-year contract for DPS polling places ($297,653) after debate; waiver granted.
  • Approved: Resolution requesting a forensic audit of the Detroit Land Bank Authority by the Michigan Auditor General (with waiver).
  • Approved: Numerous contracts and resolutions for housing, public safety, construction, and grants across multiple departments (items 17.1–19.11).
  • Postponed: Contract for municipal parking system (Item 19.8) for one week.
  • Withdrawn: TraP Tailgate event petition; postponed to 2026.
  • Scheduled: Public hearings for zoning changes and secondary street sign ordinance on October 16 and October 23, 2025, respectively.
  • Waivers Granted: For multiple items to bypass waiting periods.
  • Adjourned: Meeting concluded with a moment of silence for community leaders Jeffrey Thomas and Eric Ford.

Meeting Transcript

Present. Mary Walters. President. Councilmember Angela Woodfield Callaway. Cosmic McColleman Young the second. Here. Council Pro Tim James Tate. And Cos President Mary Sheffield. You have a call present, Mr. President. Thank you, Madam Clerk. We'll just like someone you want to say. Okay. Um let everybody know that the members, uh, honorable Fred Durhal uh from District 7 as well as the honorable council president and no, I'm sorry, our uh district seven, sir, Fred Durha will be excused. Uh I just want to say I have noticed his heart is here. I want the clerk to be able to recognize that. As well as uh oh no calloway is already here. All right, so all right. So now we will begin with the induction of the clergy. We have with us today Deputy Chief Charleston Day. He will start us with the morning prayer as soon as he is promoted. He will be recognized, and we begin with the prayer. President, I do not see him online. Does that mean he's not here, or does that mean like we just so it's somebody else? He's supposed to be online. I do not see his his name online though. Okay. So, like I was saying earlier, the supposed to be me, he's not gonna be here at all. He ghost us or I was told he's logging on now. Is he doing like a little late morning surprise up there? I was told that he's logging on now. Okay, if not, um I do believe um Mr. Chair is a um ordained minister. Did you really just put me on the spot like that? Did you really put me on the spot like that? Correct me if I uh no no, you know, you're not wrong. I just you know a little communication, I mean I mean, I didn't prepare to do Minister Coleman Young the prayer today. You are equipped to do all right, whatever all right, everybody. I'm a little bit rest here. Uh go ahead, bow your heads, close your eyes. Uh, we just want to say thank you so much for all the wonderful opportunity for us to be here today. Thank you for the opportunity for us to be safe in these tumultuous and turbulent times. We know that there is nothing that we can't do without believing in you, as you said in your word, that there that all things are possible through him who believes. And uh, we just wanted to say thank you so much for the opportunity for us to be able to add value to those, to serve those, to be hope for the hopeless, the voice for the voiceless, and understand that power is only important as the use to serve the powerless with. It is our great honor and privilege to be able to uplift people in the city of Detroit and to build a government that loves them as much as they love the city of Detroit. Thank you for the honor. Please bless us as we go about our day, uplifting people and using the power of public service to improve the lives of the citizens that we are governing over. Thank you and God bless. Amen. Thank you.

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