Planning and Economic Development Standing Committee Meeting - September 18, 2025
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Welcome to the planning and economic development standing committee for today, Thursday, September 18th, 2025.
Madam Clerk, good morning.
Please call the role.
Council President Pro Tim James Tate.
Councilmember Fred Durha Third.
Councilmember Letitia Johnson.
Johnson indicates on her way as well, having some traffic issues and vehicle challenges and things like that.
Which does not stop us from opening for public comment, though.
We shall do that at this moment.
We shall now call for public comment.
If there's anyone who would like to provide public comment to this committee, please raise your hand now.
See one.
I didn't ask you to come up.
Just raise your hand and said one, two, three, four.
Anybody else?
I see four hands in the committee of the whole.
I see four.
All right.
How many have do we have online, Miss Caprice?
Good morning.
We have 14 hands online.
Fourteen hands online.
All right, so we're gonna give today we do have public hearings.
They are back, everybody.
So we're gonna give everyone a minute and a half for general public comment.
And we're gonna start with the folks who are in the committee of the whole.
For those who raise your hand, I saw four hands.
That's all I saw.
One, two, three, and I saw a fourth one over there.
All right, so you all we've got three seats up front.
Um, and you'll be guided to where they are, pointing them out.
One, two, three.
You're gonna have a microphone in front of you.
It's currently going to be red.
You're gonna push a bottom at the button at the bottom of the mic when it turns green.
Speak.
The floor is yours.
Good morning, sir.
All right.
And please keep your eyes on the clock because I gotta give everybody a minute to have the same amount of time.
That is what I must do by open meetings actually rules.
And I'll start uh to my far left.
We'll start with Miss Castleberry.
Floor is yours, ma'am.
Good morning.
Good morning, Tina Castleberry, owner of the garden block.
I just want to say um, with much discussion this week.
Um, I think we've come to a resolution.
Um, but my final comments would be I think it's very tragic to both my city and suburb, advocate gardeners, um, if it's not a gardening center.
And that's all I have to say.
Okay.
Thank you so much.
All right, look forward to uh having further discussion when we get to that item.
Good morning.
And you can uh release that seat and we'll allow the final speaker to come and take that location.
Good morning, ma'am.
Yes, ma'am.
No, that's okay.
Floor's yours.
If you can turn it, hit that button.
Okay, I'm here this morning for the zoning uh of the building on uh Davison and uh Potaski.
Um I'm um what I'd like to say about that is that I'm I understand is a zone on R3, and uh the owner would like for it to be a uh B2.
That area on Davison used to be some residential homes and there aren't any now.
Right now, what's on that home, uh that street is all business if you have and I'm not gonna say even business, because the only thing that's allowed in that area is uh churches and schools, and and that's what's on that building, except for the house that she's talking about.
I think we need to uh have an education for the community so they can understand the difference between zoning all over the city.
And the other thing is I also know that there's a misjustice with the land bank who uh sold a home.
They need to uh let the residents know what they are uh uh what they're buying into the rules, the zoning laws and codes of the community, which people, when I was young, we were so happy to be able to buy a home in Russell Woods.
We got a home.
That's our home.
We can do what we want to, but that's not the way it works, and that's where we have to educate our people because the contractors and the cities are not telling the people what they can and cannot do.
The other thing is maybe we need to di differentiate the the fact that.
I'm sorry, ma'am, your time.
Okay, what can I just say one thing?
I'm sorry, I can't, because then I gotta do that for everyone.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
If you would like to provide additional comments, please submit them.
We'll place them on the in the clerk's road.
Good morning, ma'am.
I would like to speak on the issue with the garden bug.
To sum it up, I must say there are several people that dropped the ball, including Miss Castleberry.
Funding was allocated to support viability of a flower shop.
Unfortunately, the foundations was cracked to begin with.
But worse than that, there's no accountability.
I'm sure there are several people that apply to be a recipient of the motor city match.
Imagine if you were any one of them that had just as equally a business in the spirit of it being a good cause, but we're not chosen.
But who was chosen did not appreciate the opportunity to the extent to complete all required paperwork to legitimize the business?
Am I to believe that city officials would further disenfranchise those qualified applicants by suggesting the city should use more of its funding to help her do something she was not willing to do for herself?
It's disingenuous.
The first door you should have knocked on, Miss Castleberry was Miss Hawkins, the homeowner mostly affected by an illegal business operating a few feet from her sanctity and peace of peace of mind.
I must ask, is there any history of the city council asking on public record to relocate a business that not only operated for more than four years unlawfully but received the motor city match and failed its requirements?
So I must say this, or merely ask the city council to do what is permitted by the law.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
All right.
Sir, the floor is yours.
You have a minute 30.
Sir, you a cheated in public official with your boy over here at Fred Duha.
He's hey, tell Steve Wasco, I said, what up dope.
Now, here the reason why I brought this forward is Kenisha didn't shoot herself, man.
Charmaine McLeod did it.
Charmaine McLeod did it.
And you're a fraud.
You cheated in public fraud official.
And you are too.
Fred Duha, you got Detroit voter trap houses all over the district seven and five so many of them.
I quick counting.
Now, yesterday, the Detroit City Council, President of the Detroit City Council had a meeting with my veterans, with some veterans over at the Veterans Housing Facility 19327, West Chicago, right where you got that resource center, Fred Duha.
She walked in the building, then turned around and walked out and stood the veterans up.
Now I don't know what's her problem or what's going on with this city.
But whatever the case is, hey, James, y'all busted, and it's up.
And now I gotta get Nini what she wants.
She wants y'all to stop saying her mama killed herself.
So y'all done brought me back out.
Now I'm him.
Not just him, him him.
Well, him is a good thing.
Y'all don't want to see that.
Him, him.
The time's up.
Thank you, Him.
We shall now go to the public comments online.
Who do we have first, man?
Her first caller is Eb.
Eb.
The floor is yours.
You have a minute 30.
General.
Public comment.
Hello, I'm calling.
I'm in, I mean, because I've been in my home 11 years.
Um, the landlord just recently died a month ago.
Last week I got a letter on my door from an investment company saying that the house is in foreclosure.
I call and verify, yes, it was in foreclosure.
I've been paying my rent to him.
Then I started paying to his son.
I don't have no rights.
UCHC is trying to help me, but I was just told that the bidding was at 27,000 Monday.
So of course I was outbidded because they didn't have that type of funds.
It's no tenant rights for the people that's been in these homes taking care of these homes for the past 11 years, and I just gotta whoever buys it, I just have to get out the house.
That's not fair to me.
I'm a hard working person that pays my bills on time.
And I just got to get out because the landlord scammed me for the past three years, taking my rent money.
I didn't think to go online and look to see if he was paying, because I've been here 11 years.
I didn't think he would not pay.
So to get blindsided with this, and now I'm being told, oh, there's nothing nobody could do.
You just, if you get outdated, whoever buy it if they want you to move, they can ask me to move in within 30 days.
This is 2025.
How can I just move and find a decent place in 30 days?
And then who's to say the next landlord won't do me like this?
Like, where are my tenant rights at?
I don't have no say so.
After 11 hardworking years of keeping up his property, I feel like it is my property.
I'm the one that's been doing everything.
I need help.
Like this is not right.
We need more tenant rights in this city.
Please.
All right, so I'm gonna give you my number to give a call.
I'm not sure where you're located.
313, 224, 1027.
Give it to you again.
Maybe getting a pen and paper.
But we're gonna get uh as much as we can within the extent of the current law.
And there needs to be some kind of uh law change.
We can work with our state legislators uh or identify ways that we can do so here in the city of Detroit.
But 313-224-1027.
Give us a call.
We'll see what we can do to assist you, ma'am.
Thank you.
Next caller, please.
Our next caller is iPhone.
Hi, phone.
The floor is yours.
You have a minute 30, General Public Comment.
Uh, good morning.
This is Betty A.
Barner, president of DeSoda Elsewhere Black Association, advocating for my community.
Uh, if you would like to donate to for the work that we're doing in our community, you can do that by going to Zale and going to Diva.
That's D as in Dog, E, B as in Boy, A, W E, B as in Boy, E L at Gmail.com.
Again, that's Dba W E B as in Boy E L at Gmail.com.
We appreciate any and all donations.
If you are a senior and you need help in your home, and you normally don't or aren't eligible for Medicaid, please call DAA at 313 446 444.
They have a program there that assists seniors to stay in their home to keep them out of nursing homes.
And it will allow you to have an income monthly of 2900 and be eligible for Medicaid.
And once you get Medicaid, it opens up doors for other resources at other organizations.
So please, if you need this help or know someone, seniors, we need help.
Spread the word.
This is so thank you so much, Ms.
Varner.
Uh we like to now uh call the 1015 public hearing and recess it to the call of the chair.
We shall now go to our next public commenter.
Who's our next caller?
Our next caller is Miko Williams.
All right, Mr.
Williams, the floor is yours.
You have a minute 30, general public comment.
Miko Williams, are you there?
Yes, hi.
Can you hear me, please?
Yes, sir.
Can you hear me?
Yes.
Okay.
Um Mr.
Tate, good morning.
I just want to say to you, you know, you can do far more greater than what you're doing now.
And what I'm saying to you is not criticism, it's suggestions and recommendations.
And the recommendation is to do the land bank MOU, show a presentation, do a district tour of it.
I honestly think you're you're involved, or you have a conflict of interest, or you would have done the due process and diligence to make sure everyone in the city was able to get to that MOU and to see the presentation.
However, it has not happened.
Mary Waters did one, but you didn't do one.
You didn't take it to the Northwest Activity Center or the Walker Williams record or all the rec centers, because you don't want to hear the people bitch and moan about their water bill.
I'm sorry, their uh land bank situations.
You don't want to hear about No, we'll we'll let them go, but we I'll tell you you gotta watch your language, sir.
Let them back in.
Or maybe his line.
I'm sorry.
Uh, can you hear me now?
We can hear you now.
Watch your line.
I'm having technical problems with the Zoom.
I was uh I got to just ask you to watch your language as well, sir.
Okay, I I'm sorry.
But I kind of do agree with Darren McCleskey would have said the other day.
Yeah.
Uh he got he would have got cut off if I was chairing at the moment.
And okay, so let me just finish.
You know, greater responsibility needs to be had and making sure the residents are informed.
But you put them in the town hall meeting, you go over to PowerPoint presentation and what changed in the MOU, and then give the residents opportunity to weigh in on it.
That way we would have had a full consensus.
You're gonna shove this down our throats for the next council body, which you will be president of in order to rule over that.
It's unfair.
All right.
Well, I'll tell you this land bank MOU has been lingering since 2023, Mr.
Um Williams.
If you have any suggestions, feel free to submit them.
Um but uh I don't know what else we can do.
We're at the end of this term, and our goal is to get it done before the end of this term is up.
Feel free to submit and anyone, feel free to submit your recommendations.
Uh we will be discussing the MOU.
What day was that?
October 2nd.
All right, October 2nd.
So again, we're not rushing.
Clock's ticking though.
Tick tock, TikTok.
Next caller, please.
Our next caller is Stephen Haring.
Mr.
Haring, the floor is yours.
I thought you were in Florida.
You call about Detroit issues.
Oh, yeah, right in Florida right now.
Okay.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, we can hear you.
Florida.
Awesome.
Why I'm calling is actually because of some of the slanderous comments made yesterday by Nico Williams.
You know, I want you to know I'm a successful businessman.
I've made hundreds of thousands to almost a million in just a few years.
And you know, Miko's, he's an unemployed loser that's mentally ill.
He lives off the government.
I think he lives in his car.
And I guarantee you, he's gonna end up in a mental hospital and or prison someday with the way he talks.
And I'm surprised he hasn't had a couple PPOs or lawsuits against him.
But um I also want to have to call out um Joanne Warwick, um, a comment she said that I also thought was pretty offensive, you know.
Charlie Kirk, of course, no one deserves to die that way, but Charlie Kirk was a hardcore racist.
There's no dispute to it.
And that's the rest of my time.
All right.
Public commenting uh versus in wars is something new.
Next caller, please.
My next caller is William M.
David.
Mr.
William M.
Davis, the floor is yours.
You have a minute 30 general public comment.
Good morning, young people.
Can I be heard?
Yes, sir.
Okay, I like to start out by saying this tragic to me that uh Mayor Mike is proposing to use surprise funds to cover tax revenues declines because all these tax abatements and exemptions and stuff y'all give people that don't necessarily fulfill their original promises, then you don't call it back.
You've been calling back money from the city retirees for years for over a decade.
You know, we are hurting thousands of us have died, and I think more should be done to help city church retirees.
I make a prediction that if Mayor Mike does not do anything to help the city track retirees before he leaves, I make a prediction that he will not be elected governor because it's our I already have a bunch of volunteers that's willing to go all over the state because we already have a list of over 100.
I think by the end of the year, we're gonna have a list of a thousand of his failures.
You know, like he made a number of promises, like the fact that he's gonna grow the city of Detroit.
Right.
He grew the city of Detroit from number 18th in the nation to 27th or 26th.
You know, so a lot of his promises have fallen on death is and a lot of city of Detroit retirees have died.
So I make this prediction in the event that nothing is done to help City Detroit retirees that he's not going to be governor and he's not going to be elected dog catcher.
And I think starting next year, his endorsements won't help.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Uh neglected to note that we have been joined by Member Johnson.
Good morning, ma'am.
All right.
Um next caller, please.
Our next caller is not that, Karen.
Not that.
Karen, the floor is yours.
You have two, excuse me, a minute 30, general public comment.
Hello.
Yeah, I I'd like the two minutes, but thanks for the minute and for the 90 seconds anyway.
You're welcome.
Um, I agree with everything Mr.
Davis said, uh, especially about the uh plight of the retirees, Detroit City retirees.
We gave up 30 years, some of us more than 30 years, and we fulfilled our end of the bargain.
We can't go and snatch back what we've done, like you're snatching back money we've earned.
So we we need to really concentrate.
You guys really need to concentrate on making the Detroit retirees hole, cutting out that clawback, start clawing back the developers instead of clawing back from people who actually work for the city and put blood, sweat, and tears, you know, neglecting family to get to work on time and all these things, but you know, it doesn't seem to matter.
Um, so I'd like to see us uh more consideration.
Not a fast track to nothing.
We we want our money back.
Homelessness, when it's coming, when it's coming, when it's coming.
Let's get our babies and these single mothers off the streets.
We can repurpose that Renaissance Center and house a bunch of people that way, as opposed to just tearing them down.
I think it's ludicrous.
You're tearing down buildings and you got people sitting on the street trying to figure out where to live.
Uh $600 million over taxation.
We still need that money back too.
You're constantly giving abatements, but you haven't taken care of what you already owe.
How can you give away hundreds of thousands of dollars when you owe people hundreds of thousands of dollars?
It doesn't even make any sense.
It's all backwards.
Thanks for the 90 seconds.
You're welcome.
Next caller, please.
Our next caller is owner Papa.
All right, caller.
The floor is yours.
You have a minute 30 general public comment.
Good morning, and through the chair.
Excuse me, I be heard.
Yes.
Yes, um, Miss Winston is absolutely correct in all that she has said.
You you all had a chance to write the ship for the retirees, the general retirees with 75 million dollars, which the entire council said they didn't have.
But you have all kinds of money to give to developers.
The first thing we need to do is uh a member uh a moratorium on anything that comes out of the planning department.
This is part of what is wrong with the city 8.5.
You're just gonna rezone it to appease um uh an owner of a property.
Uh this is the reason why the city is in such chaos.
You had a you had a lady this morning that called and said she'd been paying rent, and now she's being foreclosed on.
Now the um the uh um they're going to foreclose on hundreds of people this month and put their homes up for um auction.
You all are causing your actions are causing the issues that we are having in this city.
8.5 is just an example of how you underhandedly are putting businesses where they don't need to be.
And this is and so now you got the solar project, and you're just going to um use eminent domain to put more people out of their houses and move more people around.
You all ought to be ashamed of yourselves, but I know you're not.
Not at all.
Next caller, please.
Number ending in 124.
Caller ending in 124.
The floor is yours.
You have a minute 30, general public comment.
Caller, are you there?
Yes, hello.
Can you hear me?
Yes, ma'am.
Can you give me a second?
I'm in a loud spot.
Let me go to some place that's a good one.
Ms.
Warwick, we'll go back, we'll come back to you.
Let's go to the next caller.
Find quiet place, and we'll come back to you.
Our next caller is Belicia.
All right, caller, the floor is yours.
You have a minute 30, general public comment.
Good boys through the um chair.
Just a few things I want to clarify.
When I come down and speak, I do not speak about white people.
I speak about white perspectives and white America and white policies.
The issues that we face are not democratic or republican issues, these are black issues, and I think that all the things that they're warning against are manifesting themselves on the federal level.
Here it is, we have law enforcement are coming into black and brown communities and don't have any agents or representatives that are represented by the community in which they're policing.
They don't have any perspective of urban communities inside and out black and brown issues, but yet the face of the law enforcement of this nation is white.
And so it cannot be ignored.
I would like to know who did our police union vote for.
He talks and brags about every police union in the city supporting him and his agendas.
I think that is clear.
This police, this city should stand up and state where do they stand at moving forward.
Thank you.
Next caller, please.
Our next caller is Mike Shane.
All right, caller, Mike Shane, the floor is yours for a minute 30, general public comment.
Uh, good morning.
Um council member Kate and others on the committee.
I'm here to speak in uh on behalf of Ebony Boyd.
She's the one whose home is in foreclosure right now.
The auction is today.
Uh it's unjust what happened to her.
Um, unfortunately, uh the situation is urgent.
So if anybody on this uh panel is able to call Eric Sabria right now, urge him to pull the house out of the auction so that we can resolve this problem and keep a Detroiter in her home.
She's lived in this house for 11 years, and unbeknownst to her, as she said earlier.
The uh landlord passed away.
The family who uh still owns the property failed to keep up with the property taxes.
Had she known about this situation, she could have taken the steps over the last three years to secure the house for her and her family.
So I would like I I know you you all have somebody has the phone number of Eric Sabrie.
If you could give him a call now and get him to pull the house out of the auction, that'll give us time to resolve this problem.
Um, if you can do that, please do it now.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
The next caller, please.
Our next caller is Trey Peters.
All right, caller, the floor is yours.
You have a minute 30.
Uh, before we go forward, I'd like to call the 1020, excuse me, 10.30 public hearing and recess get to the call of the chair.
All right, sorry about that.
Caller, the floor is yours.
You have a minute 30, general public comment.
Good morning to this committee.
My name's Tracy Peters.
I live at 3494 Harvard Road.
Um District 4.
Last week I did submit comments to the website email address that you all put on the City of Detroit website.
So I did include some language about land bank amendments.
This is really just about the general principle behind the land bank and what's informing my perspective most is having taught in Michigan and around the country since 1991.
In what you describe as poor communities, which is where I've always lived.
Citizen input whenever, for whatever reasons there are financial emergencies, that's the biggest problem with the land bank.
Section 756 of that law is about preservation of property value.
And it just want you to maybe address this at your October 2nd meeting committee.
You know, where do I as a resident get to see the disagreement between the land bank and city council?
If the authority thinks that it's important to hold on to preserve the value of the property, they can without your approval control the land.
I mean, because that's what seven 756 says.
Thank you.
Next caller, please.
Our next caller is Chris Holmes.
All right, caller, the floor is yours.
You have a minute 30, general public comment.
Hi, my name is Christine Holmes.
I'm a Woodbridge resident, and I'm the director of policy and property development at Woodbridge Neighborhood Development.
And I'm speeding speaking in support of agenda item number six, the NEZ requests in the Woodbridge neighborhood for parcels on Lysander Rose of Parks in Lombard.
Um, I want to point out the XYZ development, the developer on this project has engaged the Woodbridge community over the past few years, including direct communication with nearby neighbors and providing regular updates at monthly community meetings and with our organization.
Thank you.
Next caller, please.
All right, caller, the floor is yours.
You have a minute 30, general public comment.
Yeah, so good morning, everybody.
Um sad to hear what's happening to um the lady Miss Ebony, uh, with uh the fact that we came to you guys, and we thank you for doing for asking Eric Sabrie for a moratorium foreclosure moratorium.
But we've been coming uh to this uh body to ask if we can have some fail-safe stops for these illegal foreclosures.
Right now, 834 homes are being foreclosed right now.
And we asked Eric Sabriek to do another moratorium foreclosure as he's done in the last four years, and uh we were unsuccessful in that.
I am so sad to say that.
But we this is a a microcosm of a of a existing problem that we're gonna see.
Now, I want you all to please roll up your sleeves, go into a meeting and figure out what to do about these homes, these families that are gonna be put in the cold this winter.
834 homes have been uh uh been foreclosed, are in the foreclosure pipeline, the auction pipeline.
Ms.
Ebony is one of them.
We need your help.
These people are hardworking families and mostly black women with families and children.
We want you to make find out what you could do if we if you get, you know, this is all I'm pleading for.
Help the people that need to help.
All right.
Next caller, please.
Our next caller is Ms.
Marguerite Scarlet Mattox.
Ms.
Margie Maddox Scarlet, the floor is yours.
You have a minute 30.
I'm sorry.
Uh the floor is yours.
General public comment.
Good morning.
Morning.
Hey.
Oh, we like you.
Thank you.
Everybody here.
That is not right.
Please watch your language.
Please.
And um the item eight is seven.
Seven.
Oh, the universe for the time.
Um the right.
I would love to see the plane of it.
They said uh on the I mean let's say thank you, Mr.
Kate and Miss Johnson for taking the walk in the shoes.
Thank you.
And if you do her I would love to see him take a look with me to never day at time that we both can come up with the fool just told and have the issue and homelessness.
We need to figure out a way to make sure that family together and have you because I love I love some black two my own family members being it is not a pretty sight to see if somebody is repealing a link property.
It's the only past uh just on the property and the source you see please make sure it's that way and the green just from here and here from the least thank you, I'm getting thank you as well, Miss Mannock, and thank you for uh exposing us to the experiences that we otherwise.
I would say speak for myself, otherwise not have, and look forward to uh furthering some of those conversations we had about some of the issues we um that you commented on during the walk.
Uh next caller, please.
Our final caller is going back to Miss Warwick.
All right, Joanne Warwick, the floor is yours.
You have a minute 30, general public comment.
Good morning, may I be heard?
Yes, thank you.
Well, Miss Maddox is right, and frankly, you guys dropped the ball.
You didn't hold the demo contractors accountable.
We're supposed to have bound to crack a bunch of sidewalks.
I agree one thousand percent with Miko about uh not holding meetings about the land bank because I guess you just don't want people to really understand what's going on.
Stephen Howing, you are good on public transit, but you are ignorant about Charlie Kirk.
He has plenty of black friends.
So please stop saying that rate that crap about his eraser.
You could have voted some time ago to take the occupied properties out of the tax auction, like it's been done before.
And like you did, but but in 2017, you voted to take out 498 Peterborough and then to give to Midtown Inc for less than $3,000.
Then they form Peterborough properties and they flip that same piece of property for $150,000.
Then I saw another for sale sign on it, and I called him up and they said, Well, we have a pending offer for $750,000.
So you failed the residents miserably by not avoiding this problem that this lady is having in the first place, but you hook up the developers, but you didn't.
All right.
I think that takes us to the end of our general public comments.
We should now close out general public comments.
And I'd like to call back to order the 1015 public hearing.
The 1015 public hearing is a request for a neighborhood enterprise zone district for property located at 666 Prentice Street Detroit.
And described uh in the document uh prior to us that has been presented.
Well, the parties who are presenting, please introduce yourself for the record.
You see yourselves on the screen.
Justice Cook, Housing and Revitalization Department.
David Howell, D G C.
Morning.
Uh Elizabeth Massarin, consultant with the development team.
Good morning.
LO4 Housing and Revitalization Department.
Good morning.
What do we have before us this morning?
And uh Michael Wachneen, part of the development team for Midtown Detroit PropCo.
And Lakisha Barcliffe with LPD.
Good morning to all.
So Eric Andrews.
Eric Andrews, HRD.
Morning.
All right, Mr.
Cook, the floor is yours.
Thank you.
To the chair, Midtown Detroit PopCo LLC is requesting the establishment of a neighborhood enterprise zone in the area of 663 Printest Street, Detroit, Michigan.
The governing body of a local governmental unit by resolution may designate one or more neighborhood enterprise zone within that local governmental unit.
Upon the creation of a zone, the applicant will receive the certificate as a matter of right and shall not be required to participate in a public hearing.
I would like to turn it over to my colleague David Howell, and the petitioner is present to answer any additional questions.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good morning, Mr.
Chair.
I share my screen, please.
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
The Villa Lante development is being led by Mr.
Michael O'Connor.
Forgive me, Michael, for butchering your name of Midtown Detroit property co LLC.
He is here today requesting the establishment of a neighborhood in this enterprise zone to support his 4.1 million dollar investment in the property.
Mr.
Chair, before I go into details about the project, I'd like to explain what an NEZ is and its impact to the project specifically.
The neighborhood enterprise zone act provides a reduction on the future increases in property taxes as a result of significant improvements to residential properties, including new construction, or in this case, uh renovations.
The developer will continue to pay the taxes currently collected on the increases in land value uh shown on the dark green.
After improving the property, the taxable value will increase.
And if no abatement is provided, the amount of taxes on the property will increase as indicated by the teal in the yellow.
Once the improvements are complete, the incentive reduces the taxes paid on the property for the first 12 years is indicated by the yellow.
The final three years have a phase out to adval rates, where the developer pays the dark green and the teal portion as illustrated.
The property is located at 663 Prentice in the heart of Midtown, between second and third and so I'll give a brief overview of uh of the property.
Again, there's a 4.1 million total, there's 4.1 million in total development cost.
Uh the property has 29 residential units, 15 studios, and 14 one bedrooms.
The building is currently 90% occupied, and the developer uh has worked uh with HRD and uh developing a retention, uh tenant retention plan, uh, which the developer and HRD are obviously both here to talk to you about.
Uh some of the improvements uh that are that are going to be made to the property is a new roof, uh, masonry work, new windows, new doors, no electrical, mechanical, and plumbing systems.
Current residents will not see an increase from the renovations being contemplated.
Uh the developer has entered into a tent uh retention agreement with the housing and revitalization department to ensure that tenants do not experience displacement or a significant cost increase.
So that the increase will not exceed more than two percent.
When units are turned over, the developer has committed to offering 10% of the units at 60% AMI and 10% of the units at 80% AMI.
This works out to roughly $1,060 a month for studios and $1,500 a month for uh one bedrooms.
The uh tenants currently use uh street parking.
The request before you today is for a district only.
The district does not in itself create the tax exemption.
The property owner will need to apply to the city of Detroit for a certificate, which would be subject to uh approval uh by at the state level.
Based on our initial review, the DGC is recommending establishment of a district to support the future investment.
The existing taxes on the property are 26,823.
After the developer makes the 4.1 million dollar investment to the property, the assessor will reassess uh the property and we anticipate taxes to increase uh to about 142, 169, uh, which would be the property taxes without the abatement.
Once the abatement is applied, we project the property taxes to be about 26,900.
The projected net benefit uh to the city is estimated to be uh 374,614 over uh 15 years.
So at this point, uh, Mr.
Chair, I'd like to turn it over to Michael to talk about himself and his vision for the property and highlight the local hiring, accessibility and parking.
Michael.
Good morning.
Thank you for the opportunity to present um a little context about me.
I am um one of the managing members of the partnership group uh in reference to this project at 663 Prentice.
Uh I am a local Michigan-based developer with experience in and around Midtown Detroit, where we have successfully executed and implemented revitalization of other similar pre-war multifamily projects.
Um addition, we're very well connected and involved with some retail projects, uh specifically at adjacent to the DIA at the Park Shelton, where some of our tenants are um nonprofit and local-based businesses.
Um specific to this project.
Um we've worked very closely, as mentioned, with the uh HRD to come up with a plan um to retain the tenants and to be as minimally disruptive as possible.
Um we're working with uh a Flint-based contractor or will be working with a Flint-based contractor who has experience in Detroit and executing this type of project to minimize um disturbing uh residents.
Um as far as the the project, um, it's a 29-unit uh building.
And uh just to reiterate some of the improvements, a lot of the work is facade, roof, windows, uh, mechanical common spaces.
Um to parlay on the parking.
Um we have experience with other multifamily buildings in midtown.
Uh a lot of the residents don't have cars, use cars, um, but there is an abundant supply of on-street parking and has not been uh a challenge in the past.
Um to touch upon the construction and and ADA, some of the challenges with these uh pre-war 100-year-old buildings is accessibility.
Um a lot of these buildings have the stairs and walk up, and it's uh difficult uh to implement uh an elevator or a true ramp just because of the existing conditions and existing clearances that would be somewhat cost prohibitive and also reduce the number of of units that we have within the building.
Uh so we're excited to uh move forward and thank you for the opportunity.
If I missed anything, let me know.
We'll get we'll get to QA uh after we have the full presentation.
Anyone else wants to looking to present?
I if I may, Mr.
Chair, uh I'd like uh either Kyle or Eric to speak to the tenant retention program uh or the tenant tenant retention agreement, how that protects the current tenancy.
Uh and just give an overview of the agreement, please.
Sure.
Absolutely.
Uh to the chair.
So 663 Princess is a total of 29 units, which 23 are currently occupied.
Uh renovation will include major investments and plumbing, heating systems, unit terms, exterior facade work and roofing.
Uh, the developer has committed to two studios, one one bedroom at 60% AMI, and two studios and one one bedroom unit at 80% AMI as a part of the NEZ affordable unit.
The current rents are ranging from 750 to 1150 affordable for existing residents, whereas any future rent increases are limited to 2%.
So that's just a general overview.
The chair.
Only thing I would add is to echo what David has already said about rent increases being limited for the current residents and those increases to the higher AMI levels taking place at unit turnover.
Okay.
Any further?
So, Mr.
Chair, uh that it concludes our presentation.
I think LPD uh would be up next, I believe.
Good afternoon, um, Mr.
Chair.
We have before you Midtown Detroit, PROCO LLC, which is seeking an enterprise zone district for a property located at 663 Printest Street in the Midtown neighborhood.
Um, this entity is related to the Sturgeon Bay Partners, which has rehabilitated a number of pre-war multifamily complexes in Midtown.
The proposed project is a rehabilitation of a 29-unit apartment building that was built in 1916.
And the building is um approximately 20,000 square feet on a 0.219 acre lot.
The goal of this project is to mitigate gentrification happening in Midtown by creating an inclusive presence where seniors and low low-income residents have been prioritized.
As such, 20% of the 29 units will be affordable for the duration of the project.
Um with incomes between 20 and 80 percent uh AMI.
Uh the 60% is three units, which is three studios, and the 80% AMI is two studios and one one bedroom.
The total investment for this project is 4.1 million.
And the abatement is proposed to I mean is projected to have a tax um savings of 1.5 million for the developer.
The estimated investment in new residents are projected to produce a positive cost benefit for the city of Detroit of 374,614 and 734805 for the all impacted jurisdictions.
Additionally, 10 temporary construction jobs, two developer jobs, and 29 rehabilitated um resident units will be produced.
The result of this finished project revitalize a building that has been blighted and abandoned in the neighborhood and provide a benefit by returning the distressed property to productive use.
Um of the 13,239 um square foot of available acreage in the city of Detroit.
Um there are seven after this project, it'll be remaining a 7,541.79 um acreage available to be done designated as an EZ.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Correct, sir.
All right, colleagues, questions, comments, concerns regarding this particular project for this NEZ request.
Member Johnson, floor is yours.
Thank you, Mr.
Chair, and good morning, everyone.
Um just want to be sure I understand the rental rates uh that are being offered.
So 23 of the 29 are occupied.
The rent is currently between 750 and 1150.
So those the rent for those 23 properties will not go up more than 2% after the work has been completed, although I don't believe it's been identified what the rent will be for the six units that are currently unoccupied.
Um, so can someone give a little bit more clarity around the rental rates?
Um and I understand that the 20% of the units will be at either 60 or 80 percent AMI for I believe a minimum of 30 years, 15 years, we'll say, um, with the NEZ.
So can we just package that up and and help me to understand the rental rates a little better?
Michael, would you like to speak to that?
Good morning.
Yeah, so specific to the uh, I guess unoccupied units.
Um they're currently free market, and we will try to get whatever rate the market will come in.
I will say they for studios, you know, and the one beds, they're still falling in that you know, eight hundred dollar to eleven hundred dollar um range at this moment in time.
Um the the go forward um the the rates will be um as per the table issued by um Mishta specific to Wayne County.
Um those are the thresholds as of the AMI, and we expect the um rents to be under that.
Okay, thank you.
So it sounds like the entire building will be affordable.
Um, can you all share a timeline when you anticipate having the work start and be completed?
Nine.
Yeah, um, good question.
So at this point we haven't committed to the contractor.
We've priced everything out and we have everything teed up, but we're waiting for the zone and approval.
Umce that has been done.
I I believe there's a 60-day notice after this, assuming we are um tracking, I would say the the project is scheduled to commence um this uh this coming uh spring or so, maybe uh excuse me, uh this winter and around end of the year.
Um so that's what we're tracking towards, but it was somewhat held up just because we need to get the zone approved.
And do you have a sense of how long it'll take to complete the rehabilitation work?
Yeah, I think the bulk of the work will be done in uh six to eight month window of time.
Okay, thank you.
And do you all currently offer recycling in the building?
We don't have a recycling program.
We have the on-site um uh dumpster, but uh in Detroit we don't have recycling there at that property.
Is that something you can incorporate?
We're really trying to encourage recycling in multi-unit complexes.
Yeah, I mean, I'm um definitely on board and and curious.
Does the city offer bins in collection as far as the sorting and pickup, or I I don't know enough about it if our existing vendor would pick up collated material or does the city separately pick up material?
Um I just know at some of our other projects it's it's not implemented.
Okay, thank you.
Um I believe it would be something that you would be responsible for.
I'm not sure who your current waste disposal company is, um, but it's something that we can talk about, but we are trying to encourage more apartment complexes to recycle.
Um, I know it's different at different complexes as to how it's done, if it's just a separate bin where uh tenants can put their recycled items in that bin as opposed to throwing them in the trash can.
Um, but just want to encourage you to consider that, especially since you have rehad several buildings throughout the city of Detroit.
Um, but if you'd like, we can connect with you offline so we can have that discussion as to what it looks like and how it looks uh to be able to implement it.
For sure.
Yeah, happy to help.
Yeah.
All right, thank you.
Thank you, Mr.
Chair.
Thank you, uh Member Johnson.
I just want to ask uh for our our folks from the departments in DEGC.
You raised a uh very important issue, and we've talked about it in the past in this committee, uh Member Johnson and I know you talked about the shoots, the separate, the bifurcated shoots for trash and recycle, just to our departments at DEGC.
Um by the time it gets to us, it becomes much more complicated um possibility for recycling and the bifurcated shoots.
What's the conversations like with you all with the development teams uh in advance of these items being presented to us?
Um at some point, you know, we we're gonna, as we always do, get a little bit more stern in terms of moving in in a direction.
So we're kind of slow walking you to a process, but getting us to, you know, I I don't I have not seen and heard from any of the development come before us where they've talked about um recycling and the importance of recycling and how they're looking to you know help the city of Detroit become a more green city as we as the government has continued to strive to become.
And we look at the electric vehicles, we look at you know, yeah, all these black to beauty, you know, initiatives that we have.
We're really focusing and moving towards green trees everywhere, but we're not hearing that necessarily when it comes to other development projects that are coming our way.
Uh what's the conversations uh what are they like that we're not hearing uh here in the committee?
What are they like behind closed doors behind the scenes before they get to us?
And anybody can volunteer.
Yeah, Mr.
Chair, I it at least from DGC's perspective, I your your point is well taken in terms of by the time it gets to you, uh it's a little bit more difficult to implement.
Um I think what we can do uh is endeavor to work with the planning department and making sure these conversations uh happen when the developer first approaches planning uh and first approaches uh DGC to even talk about an abatement.
Um so yeah, your point is well taken though.
By the time it gets to you, it's it's it's a little bit more difficult to implement.
And uh I can make sure that at least from DGC's perspective, we can start having these conversations earlier.
Yeah, I appreciate it.
I uh and and I don't want to step, you know, outside of my bounds too far, but uh I would recommend having an uh requesting a meeting with member Johnson's office because she is the one that has raised this issue on multiple occasions, and um as a member of the committee, I think it's imperative that you get all the input that's necessary, not just even at this table, but there's more detail.
Maybe you can provide her that she doesn't know.
But I I think it's important to have those conversations uh with our office sooner rather than later.
Um, because at some point we've got to react uh as a body as a committee, um, regardless of if this is the end of the term, this committee still exists in the next term as well.
Uh so will projects, but it's imperative that we try to get ahead of this, and it's been a slow walk.
So just a recommendation on my part.
Thank you.
So noted.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Any additional questions, colleagues, comments, concerns?
All right, we'll go to general public.
I'm sorry, did I call the 1050 public hearing?
Ooh, I'm sorry.
I'd like to now call the 1050 public hearing and recess it to the college chair.
Sorry about that.
Okay.
Um we'll now go to public comment.
If there's anyone from the public who would like to speak on the pre the presentation just saw the public hearing, please raise your hand now.
I see one hand in the back.
Is there anyone online who would like to speak on the public hearing that you just saw?
That is line.
Item five, going once, going twice, going three times.
The collection of public comments have now concluded, ma'am.
Come on up.
Take one of those seats.
Give you an opportunity to uh provide comments.
How many folks do we have online?
Ms.
Caprice.
We have six people online, sir.
All right, we're gonna give everyone a minute 30.
We do again have three public hearings today.
We still have the agenda ahead of us.
So we're gonna get that clock up for you, ma'am.
And we're gonna give you a minute 30.
All right, the floor is yours.
You may proceed.
Push that button.
Uh it's gonna turn, push that button in front of it to the green, the red turns green.
Okay.
Um, I'd like to think uh thank everyone for um being here today and listening.
Um Ms.
Johnson, uh, it's a good point.
I'm in the new Dr.
Mayo Angelou uh Lou Bill building, and uh there's been recycle bins, bins and um not so much recycled, but we have the access of uh the disposable uh of disposing trash in a in a correct manner, but it seems to be a problem with the um management that is um making certain that you know those that don't and those that do appreciate the uh recycling and the throwing away and the integrity of the building uh being a great issue with management siding more with the majority opposed to the um uh opposed to doing what is what is right.
Um, my question to Mike in regards to what Mike is saying is that the development I'm I'm a little concerned about the development having so much to do and so much concern with the tenants, which seems to be a problem at Dr.
Mayo Angelou uh building on Burt Road there at Grand River because we can't keep the developers out uh separated from the management and the management that it's supposed to be for the tenants over there at the Dr.
Mayo Angelo building.
It also seems to be like a criminal crime like activity from uh people from Inkster.
So you time time's up, and I just want to give everyone just a little bit more during the pre the public hearings.
The comments have to be germane to the project that's in front of us.
You were kind of in, kind of out.
I get where you're coming from.
So have you caught talk to your council members' office?
Um that was one of my reasons for seeing uh uh for stopping in to see you today.
Okay, I was gonna say, because I haven't heard those issues yet.
So you haven't.
We're gonna no, I have not.
So we're gonna get someone from the team to get that in your information, and I want to come by and uh get a little bit more because I know there are some challenges that are taking place over there.
Have not heard that one in particular.
Right, it is between the development and the management aside from the tenants.
But we're gonna talk offline, so we actually have an opportunity to really communicate.
Thank you.
Um, so someone from the team will get your information, man.
Thank you for being here, though.
You can always call us.
Yes, ma'am.
Yes, ma'am.
Next caller, please.
Our next caller is owner Papa.
All right, caller.
The floor is yours.
Have a minute 30 regarding line item five.
Caller, are you there?
84 and 45 seconds.
All right, let's put her at the end of the queue and go to next caller, please.
Our next caller would be not that Karen.
Not that Karen, line item five.
The floor is yours, minute 30.
Yes, hello.
Yes, yes.
Um noted that the building is uh older.
It's built in 1916, I think they said.
But perhaps they should, you know, select different buildings so that we don't have to exclude people, you know, that could possibly want to be a resident of that of that building.
It seems that to me that people are selecting older buildings purposely to avoid having to make uh accessible uh housing, you know, for for individuals.
So I'll get the door, please.
So yeah, uh that's pretty much what I want to say.
And the fact that yeah, I get the door.
The fact that um we're constantly selecting these older buildings, and we use the excuse that well, of course, the building can't have an elevator, so we automatically excluding uh people with lesser um fiscal abilities.
I don't think that's fair.
You know, that's pretty much all I gotta say.
All right, next caller, please.
Open and bit of our next caller is iPhone.
All right, caller, the floor is yours.
You have a minute 30.
Get that clock back up for you.
Got a minute 30 regarding line item five.
Uh yes.
Uh this is Miss Varner.
And I'm just curious in the presentation.
They spoke about the parking and uh as they're saying that I guess the residents they're parking on the street, and I guess uh it was stated maybe the majority of the people don't drive or whatever, but I'm just curious for those who do, or they guess when they have uh, you know, company.
Are they uh paying for parking at the meters?
Because I know in midtown they are uh parking meters, so can they just speak on that, please?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Next caller, please.
Our next caller is William M.
Davis.
All right, Mr.
Davis, the floor is yours.
Minute 30, line item five.
Uh good afternoon.
I have a few questions.
Um one, is there any type of uh availability that assists handicapped or seniors?
Because you know, I used to live in that area.
In fact, I was on uh I was a co-chair of University City Assistant District Council way back when, when way back when.
And I was also on the board of the North Cast Community Union.
I was on the board of directors.
Um I I think you you parking is always and continues to be a problem there, because I know going to Wayne State, people used to park and may walk a mile or two.
So I think parking is a problem there.
I think something needs to be done about that.
And also I think, especially older buildings, more innovative ways need to be found to make it more uh accessible for seniors and handicapped people.
Thank you.
That's all I have to say.
Thank you.
Next caller, please.
Our next caller is Cindy Dara.
Star, the floor is yours.
Minute 30, line item five.
Let's put Miss Darth into the queue and go to next caller, please.
Our next caller is Miss Marguerite Maddox.
Marguerite Maddocks.
Carl, the floor's yours regarding line item five.
Detroit, yes.
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Um thank you.
Thank you.
Next caller, please.
We are back to owner Papa.
All right, caller, the floor is yours regarding line item five.
Through the chair, Charlene Hughes may have be heard.
Yes.
I I would like to do circle back and see what projects this developer has worked on previous.
We seem to have a lot of one bedrooms and studios, and I'm not sure if we're aware that we need uh housing for families, um, including in Midtown.
Um it appears that we're paying for people to upgrade their properties and giving them tax incentives, which hurts the general fund.
This is less money being received in the general fund where all of a lot of police fire, um, all of our departments are paid out of.
And if you continually give people um rebates and and and uh discounts on their general on their on their taxes, their property taxes, you you're you're driving the city uh general fund into the ground.
Um I don't have anything against this developer or any developer, but I believe that the NEZs zones should there should be a moratorium on them until we can do a look back and see how have these things helped us.
What I see is increased people leaving, increased homelessness, and um if these things are supposed to be helping that, it's it doesn't appear that that's what it's doing.
Um I would like to see a hold on all of these projects and all of these things until we can do a look back and see how are they benefiting the citizens.
Thank you.
All right.
Next caller, please.
And we are back to Cindy Dara.
Cindy Dara, the floor's yours.
Minute 30 regarding line item five.
Mr.
going once.
Right.
Okay.
Hello?
Um Yeah, uh, I used to live on Prentice back in the day when Detroit was a lot of fun and it was cheap.
And uh we could rent for about a hundred dollars.
I think we rented a flat on the corner of Prentison Third that they tore down, and it was uh three bedrooms upstairs and a big living room dining room kitchen.
That all got demolished, but uh the rent was cheap when I came to Detroit, and we thought a hundred dollars was a lot for the rent.
That was 1967, and I worry about just increasing rents, and I don't know.
Do the tenants really want to course that they're not gonna have to pay, but that's just like when somebody sells the building, then the uh, you know, that they're not protected by the Headley Amendment anymore.
So then whoever buys that building is gonna raise the rent way, way, way uh, you know, uh uh or the the taxes.
So you know, a friend of mine bought a house, and now I spend six thousand dollars a year for taxes because they decided that that house was worth so much because of it was in a certain neighborhood.
So I don't know.
The whole thing, I I agree with it that we need to re-evaluate and evaluate what we've already done.
I mean, I go to the water meeting.
Thank you.
And it takes us to the end of our public comments.
Gonna give the presenters an opportunity to respond to the questions that were provided.
And whoever would like to begin, the floor is yours.
Yeah, thank you for everybody's uh participation and um comments.
Uh a couple notes specific to the parking.
Um as mentioned, we do have experience with um with this type of building with the residents, some have cars, some don't.
Um, yes, there is on street parking.
A lot of it is metered in midtown.
Um, some is not.
Um, my assumption is um that people are paying parking sometimes, and then people are also finding on street parking.
Um that uh that is probably not uh charged.
Um there was some some comments about um other NEZs.
Um I did want to mention that in other buildings we do have that we do have an NEZ um, specifically 5764 Woodward Avenue.
Um those are very large three bedrooms and uh uh are very conducive for larger groups or specifically families.
So the the comment about only one beds in studios is is not a hundred percent accurate.
There are um larger units uh available at other properties throughout um the Detroit area.
Um and back to the the ADA and disability and access.
I think part of the beauty of Detroit is the history in these old buildings.
Um it's nice to incorporate the old history and be able to um revitalize them and with that comes certain challenges specific to to access.
Um another scenario is a new ground up building, which is a very different product, and it's easier to integrate certain amenities specific to recycling and accessibility.
Uh these old buildings add that level of challenge, and I think it's a balance to um to meet the needs of all, but in the end, um 663 Prentice will be uh a better building that has been restored to uh a certain level, and we will be able to offer uh a significant or a good amount of um affordable units for the community.
Um so overall, I I think it's uh a benefit to the city of Detroit.
Thank you.
All right.
And can someone walk through just for those who may be watching and I have the question uh what the law says for uh ADA requirements for and you kept mentioning pre-war uh structures, pre-war buildings.
What does ADA say about accessibility of as it relates to uh how the buildings are when when the time that the building was developed and uh these the newer ADA uh rules that are in place or laws Michael, would you like to speak to that?
Yeah, I guess the caveat being I'm not uh a licensed architect, uh so I don't know the exact um definition specific to the I guess the the international building code or the specific ADA um compliance law.
I'm not uh expert in in that field.
Um just somebody though, so just anybody HRD, somebody talked to us about why this why is not required to put an elevator, why he's not required to do certain things as it relates to the ADA uh laws.
I mean, this is a real easy question, y'all.
Sure, it's for the chair.
Um I would double check this, but I believe it's buildings that were built, I believe after 1975 that are not required to um have elevators or some of those standards, but we'll certainly double check that in and make sure that we get the answer back to you.
Okay, again, this is these these are the questions we want to ask.
It's a public hearing, not just the council hearing, a public hearing.
So please be armed with that information as a result as it relates to uh these items that uh we know are gonna come up.
They come up every meeting.
Absolutely.
All right.
Colleagues, any additional questions, comments, concerns.
Seeing none, knowing that's noting that this is a NEZ, there is a gestation period that is uh required uh if the committee decides to move this forward.
Uh is there a motion?
Thank you, uh Mr.
Chair, move to bring uh this line item back.
Line item five.
Uh uh uh I guess 60 days, right?
Yes, so we'll be looking at 60 days from now.
All right, but move to bring it back as a line item.
Thank you so much.
There's a motion to bring back we have a date of November 20th.
Member Vice Chair.
Uh there's a motion to bring back line item five as a line item on November 20th, 2025.
That is our last committee meeting uh before the end of this term.
So just letting everyone know we've got just how short it is before we wrap this thing up.
So we got short period of time.
Any objections?
See none that action shall be taken.
Thank you so much.
We shall now close out line item five.
Now I'd like to call back to order the 1030 uh public hearing uh regarding the established the parties who are participating in the 1030 public hearing, please queue up.
This public hearings regarding um a request for an establishment of a neighborhood enterprise zone is requested by XYZ 20-02 RFP L L C in the area of 1792 Lysander, 1772, 1758, 1750144, excuse me, 1744 Lysander, uh 1734 Lysander, uh 1731 Lombard Terror.
Lysander uh 1731 Lombard Terror.
Uh 4544 Rosa Parks.
1770 Lombard Terror.
That's a new one for me.
Uh 1760 Lombard Terror and 1730 Lombard Terror.
This is in Detroit, Michigan and Accords of Republic Act 147 of 1992.
The parties who are participating, please introduce yourselves for the record when you see yourselves on the screen.
Justice Cook, Housing and Revitalization Department.
David Howell, DGC.
Good morning, Richard Byrd, on behalf of the developer.
Morning.
All right.
Well, LPD.
Good morning.
Thank you.
All right.
Who would like to begin?
I will.
To the chair XYZ 20-02 RPF LLC is requesting the establishment of a neighborhood enterprise on the area of $1729 Lysander through 1730 Lombards Street Detroit, Michigan.
The governing body of a local government unit by resolution may designate one or more neighborhood enterprise zone within that local governmental unit.
Upon the creation of a zone, the applicant will receive the certificate as a matter of right and shall not be required to participate in a public hearing.
I'd like to turn it over to my colleague David Howe, and the petitioner here is here to answer any additional questions.
Thank you.
Thank you, Justice.
Mr.
Chair, uh Mad share my screen, please.
Yes.
The 12th and Forest Real Estate Development Project is being led by Phil Lockwood of XYZ Development.
The ownership entity for the project is just as indicated is XYZ 202, RFP, LLC.
Mr.
Lockwood is here today.
Requesting the establishment of a neighborhood enterprise zone to help support a multi-phase development project planned in the Woodbridge neighborhood.
We'll discuss each phase of the presentation, but before we begin, I'd like to explain what an NEZ and how it will impact the residential portion of the development.
Again, uh Phil will talk more about himself, but just a brief history.
He's a licensed builder and is certainly involved in the community.
The developer will continue to pay the taxes currently collected and on the increases in land value shown on the shown in dark grade.
After improving the property, the taxable value will increase.
And if no abatement is provided, the amount of taxes on the property will increase as indicated by the TL and the yellow.
Once the improvements are complete, the incentive reduces the taxes paid for the first 12 years as indicated in the yellow.
The final three years have a phase out to add valorum rates, where the developer pays the dark green and the teal portion as illustrated in year 13, 14, and 15.
Currently, there are 13 parcels in the proposed district.
11 of the parcels are contiguous and generate no property taxes to the city of Detroit as they are owned by the Detroit Land Bank Authority.
The developer is under option, has the properties under option agreement for the uh with the land bank.
And once Mr.
Lockwood takes ownership of the parcels, uh, we have projected that he will be responsible for roughly 26,000 a year in taxes for the 11 parcels.
As the development uh completes as XYZ development completes construction of the three phases, the assessor will reassess the property based on the investment made and the taxes will increase to an estimated uh 231,149.
The NEZ uh will abate roughly uh 146,548, and Mr.
Lockwood will be responsible for approximately 84,601 dollars in taxes.
If he does not receive the abatement, he would obviously be responsible for the full ad velorum tax.
As I indicated, it's a uh multi-phase uh project that includes uh 50 units in total, and uh four of the units uh in phase one, right here, the the live sander, uh, are four uh for sale uh market rate condominiums.
Phase two uh consists of uh 46 units in three buildings, the Rosa Phase two and Lombard.
Um so the uh the Lombard uh is uh 16 anticipated to be 16.5 million dollars in total development costs.
It's a pair of two-story rental houses.
Uh 20% of the units will be offered at 80% AMI.
Uh the ROSA uh is contemplated to be a 30-unit four story mixed building, four four-story mixed use building, and 20% of the units will be uh offered at 60 to 80% AMI.
Uh the Lombard is uh well the the ROSA studios ones, twos, and threes, and phase three is the Danish uh Brotherhood Hall.
Uh and that is contemplated to be 16,000 square feet of event space and community uh asset space.
We get a truly mixed use project here with uh housing, uh for sale housing, rental housing uh with AMI levels between 60 and 80 percent and uh commercial uh space.
The uh this this slide illustrates uh just the addresses of what is to be uh um in the NEZ district.
Uh and you can see it's the Lombard, the ROSA, and the the Lie Sander and uh these are the addresses.
So the development team has been uh working on various aspects of these project of this project for the last four years and conducted many community engagement meetings around the project as a whole and has uh have received overwhelming support, including the Woodbridge neighborhood development.
Hey Mr.
How before you go forward, I've been someone just text me and said it's really hard to see the uh words on the screen.
I know you have the preview.
If you can go to the full screen slideshow, that'd be helpful to the font size.
All right.
Let me see how I do that here.
We go.
So the is that better is is better on just incrementally.
So uh in the future, please increase the uh font of the uh the the letters that you have on the screen.
It is terribly difficult to read.
Okay, certainly.
And I'm saying that the part that's in the green, just FYI.
Oh, got it.
Okay.
All right, you may proceed though.
Thank you.
Thank you, sir.
Uh so the development before you uh is for a district only, the district does not in itself create the tax exemption.
Uh on July 1st, 2025, the assessor's office wrote a letter confirming that this project meets the eligibility requirements for a neighborhood enterprise.
Oh, this abatement district request applies only to the residential portion of the project.
Based on our initial review, the DGC is recommending the establishment of the district to support the future investment.
And just a note with respect to the net benefit, uh net fiscal benefit of the project to the city is estimated to be 1.13 1.1 million dollars over uh all three phases.
And that will conclude uh my portion of the presentation.
I'd like to turn it over to Phil uh so he could tell you a little bit more about himself and the vision uh that has been established uh with respect to the uh uh the development project.
Absolutely.
Thank you, David.
Um I know this is a sort of complicated project, so I'm happy to shed some color on it.
Um if it's possible to share my screen, I have just a brief uh set of slides to perfect.
Yeah, walk us through it.
So excuse me one moment.
Um, I'm not seeing the ability to share my screen.
Um in your way in one, two, three.
There it is.
Yeah, screen sharing.
There we go.
Perfect.
Awesome.
Thank you so much.
Sorry about that.
Thank you to you.
All right.
Seeing my screen all right.
We can.
Okay, great.
Uh well, again, uh good morning to this honorable body.
Thank you, David, for the introduction.
My name's Philip Lockwood with XYZ Developments.
I'm a former resident of Woodbridge, and uh, I'm pleased to request your support today for our 12th and Forest project seen here.
Twelfth and Forest represents years of careful planning, extensive community engagement, and unwavering persistence in an effort to transform vacant land in Woodbridge into high impact housing, retail, and green space.
Uh, as David noted, it's a phase development, including 50 units of housing across four buildings and includes 62 parking spaces.
Based on the feedback we receive from residents, the plan insists that one size does not fit all.
So it includes everything from studios up through family-oriented three-bedroom homes.
Notably, the development includes affordable housing with 20% of rental units set aside at 80% AMI and an additional 33% expected at naturally occurring affordable housing levels in the missing middle of 80 to 100% AMI range.
In total, that's over half the units are planned at or below the area median income.
And so this project truly strives to provide something for everyone with a diversity of housing options in order to promote owner equity and foster generational wealth.
Notably our four-story The Rosa building, which is seen in the upper right.
It features an elevator to ensure accessibility for folks of all ages and abilities.
And we care a lot about sustainability as well.
So our plan includes bioswales for stormwater runoff, native landscaping, EV charging, energy efficient all electric appliances and recycling services.
XYZ is working closely with the general contractor to ensure a meaningful portion of the expected 148 construction jobs created by this project go to Detroiters.
Lockwood Construction has a history of employing qualified Detroit-based and minority-owned subcontractors like Chairmore Plumbing and plans to collaborate with Detroit at work during the hiring process.
And beyond the impact of this project itself, XYZ is committed to improving the community of Woodbridge, something I'm quite proud of since 2023.
We've sponsored a four-yard dumpster and organized over a dozen cleanup days to shovel out overgrown sidewalks and pick up trash around the neighborhood.
We call it the Woodbridge Street Team.
And in turn, the community has backed me with over 20 letters of support, ranging from everyday citizens to prominent local organizations.
Even the neighbor who firmly opposed the project back during rezoning a few years ago has since written a letter in support.
So, yes, to conclude, thank you for considering Twelfth and Forest.
Our request for an NEZ supporting this application will promote new quality affordable housing.
It'll infill vacant land, reduce the cost of home ownership for future residents, build space for new businesses, and create jobs along the way.
The project's shovel ready.
I believe in Woodbridge.
I believe in this great city of Detroit.
I think we'll be better for it.
And I kindly ask for your support.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Who would like to proceed?
I will.
Um you have before you XYZ 2020 RPF LLC, the developer who's seeking an enterprise zone for the properties located on Lysander, Lombard Terrace and Rules of Parks Boulevard.
The proposed district is comprised of 11 vacant parcels to be acquired from the land bank authority.
The developer is currently under contract with Detroit Land Bank to acquire the parcels.
The goals, the goal of this project is to increase the opportunities for attainable residential purchases and wealth generation in the woods.
The 11 contiguous parcels make up the proposed district of a parcel approximately 1.32 acres of land.
The three pays development is made up of phase one, which is a four-unit for sale condo building, with the um units being approximately um one point, I mean 1,820 feet square foot um square feet, and which will be sold at market value.
Um and market rate rather.
Um phase two is a 16 units, um, which would be two bedrooms of approximately 1,552 square feet.
20% of those units will be at 80% AMI.
Then phase three will be three, I mean 30 studio um through three bedroom apartments, varying in sizes, and 20% of those units will be at the 60 to 80 percent AMI.
The total investment for this project is estimated to be 18.7 million.
The abatement is proposed, um, projected to be worth a tax savings of 1.7 million for the developer.
The estimated um investment in new residents are projected to produce positive cost benefit to the city of Detroit of one thousand one million one hundred and thirty-two thousand seven hundred and thirty-nine dollars with um 2.2 million um of the all impacted jurisdictions.
Additionally, 70 temporary construction jobs will be created, three developer jobs, and 50 new housing units.
The result of this finished project, revitalized um buildings that have I mean, I take that back.
The result is um to revitalize blight um blighted portions of the neighborhood.
The total acreage for this project is 1.3, I mean 1.32 acres, and which leaves 7,542 acres for designation.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right, colleagues, any uh questions, comments, concerns regarding this particular project.
Member Johnson?
Thank you, Mr.
Chair.
Good morning, everyone.
Um, just a brief couple of questions.
Um so first, thank you for sharing green storm water management plans as well as recycling.
Um, can you give a breakdown of the total 50 units?
So four are for sale, are the other 46 rental units.
Yes, uh uh happy to provide more information on that.
Um so yes, four units are for sale.
The remaining 46 in phase two are rental units, and our expectation is that nine of them uh will be set aside and uh at 80% AMI, and the 15 additional units uh will be what we call naturally occurring affordable housing.
Okay, thank you.
And what is the timeline?
And are there timeline restrictions or requirements that the land bank has put on you to develop all of the uh parcels?
Yes, absolutely.
Um so the first phase of the project is essentially shovel ready, pending approval of the NEZ, and um we plan to break ground in the spring of next year.
It's tough to dig in the ground and pour foundations in the middle of winter uh with the frozen ground.
So we're targeting spring of next year, and then phase two is to follow six to twelve months after.
It does have a little bit longer construction time, considering it's a larger uh segment of units, and that is expected to complete in summer of 2028.
All right, thank you.
Thank you, Mr.
Chair.
Thank you.
Uh, only question I have is is this is a pretty ambitious project, and with all the crazy changes that we see going on in terms of increases in costs pretty much everywhere.
Uh, how has that been factored into this uh overall project in terms of your um reasonable assurance that you're going to be able to get to the finish line uh in the time frame that you mentioned uh to the body today?
Sure.
Uh I certainly can can appreciate that concern.
Uh we do have high costs with interest rates and um construction materials and such, but um I come from uh a family of developers, uh third generation developer technically, um so we have a uh vast experience in the affordable housing space, and uh we're working with our construction team who is essentially in-house lockwood construction.
Um so we have a vast experience in the affordable housing space, and uh we're working with our construction team who is essentially in-house lockwood construction.
So we have certain efficiencies that we've gained by working so closely with the general contractor, and uh we have a great relationship with Mishta.
So we're gonna be uh, you know, tapping all our resources to bring this in on time and um on budget.
All right, thank you for that.
And you know, a question that I know it's gonna come our way.
We might as well ask it now.
What has been your uh thought process uh and planning process uh strategically surrounding um those who may have mobility issues or other disabilities, um whether we talk about simply the ADA or taking it even a step further with universal design around you know entryways, um uh laundry, etc.
etc.
Yes, thank you for that question.
Um it's something I I take quite seriously.
Um not all the units are going to be accessible, as I said, we do have townhomes which have staircases in the units, so those by their nature are tough to make accessible.
But as I noted, uh the ROSA, which is our four-story elevator access building with ground floor commercial space, uh we have great opportunity there to have accessibility built into the units.
And um I appreciate the use of the word universal design.
Um, just being smart and being diligent and aware of all the opportunities to accommodate folks is really important.
So, yeah, the width of openings and um any any ramps throughout the site, making sure those are ADA compliance.
Um it's it's a work in progress, but it's certainly something we are very sensitive to.
Thank you so much.
Any additional questions, comments, concerns, colleagues?
See none.
We shall now go to public comment.
There's anyone from the public that would like to speak on this item.
Line item six.
This is the presentation that we just saw.
Please raise your hand now.
Anyone have any comments, please raise your hand regarding line item six going once, going twice, going three times.
Collection of public comments have now concluded.
I see no hands in the committee of the whole.
Uh, Ms.
Caprice, how many hands do we have online?
We have six hands online.
Our first caller being Cindy Dara.
All right, we're gonna give everyone a minute 30, as we did in the previous public hearing.
The floor is yours, Ms.
Darren.
Uh yeah, I I always thought that you should have some kind of law that anybody in the city that can show that they made improvements, uh that it would give them a tax break instead of raising their taxes.
I mean, uh you're picking out I know that's probably a state law that allows this, but maybe we need to change the state law too.
I I uh I bought a house I lived in for a while for $35.
Your comments have to be germane to this project, please.
Okay, all right.
Okay, well, Woodbridge.
Uh they're uh they're um they have torn down houses that could have been places for people with not a lot of income to live in.
And uh so if if you I like the idea of fixing up all buildings, but I would like to see that uh it's it's really well I like what they're saying, but I I let's look at what they've done already.
You know, just like don't just listen to a politician.
Let's let's see what they've done so far and evaluate that.
Maybe we can pick out uh what's good and what's bad, but not just who develops, but the the policy itself doesn't seem to make too much sense.
You're just putting off rent uh homelessness, maybe administrative that the rents are already thank you.
Next caller, please.
Our next caller is owner Papa.
All right, caller, the floor is yours.
Minute 30 regarding line item six.
Uh good afternoon or good morning, and through the chair, may I be heard?
Yes.
I have a question.
What exactly is 80% AMI?
How much money is that in dollar terms?
Um, and what would the market value be?
We're giving them subsidies, but they're gonna sell them at market value.
And my question to in that is who gets the abatement?
Do they get the abatement?
Uh the tax uh reduction on the on every property that they buy.
And could you explain to me what is naturally occurring affordability?
Do you keep saying that?
But I have no what does that mean?
Naturally occurring affordability.
And I am uh still with, I think every project should be on hold until we can figure out how much money we've spent, how much money we've brought in, and how this is impacting our um general fund, the property tax budget.
Uh we pay everything out of that budget, and so it's unfair for a certain group of people in a certain area to pay less taxes than the people in the entire city or other areas of the city pay.
Um you can no longer or you should no longer place all of the burden on the taxpayers to pay into the general fund when you have all kinds of people who are getting reductions in the amount that they pay into the general fund, but they still get services just like me and everybody else.
Um if they can't afford to to do the project, they should thank you.
Next caller, please.
Our next caller is William M.
Davis.
Mr.
Davis, the floor is yours.
You have a minute 30 regarding line item six.
Uh good morning.
Could I be heard?
Yes.
Okay, I did not hear any discussion about parking and about the the parking is remember relates to uh the different sections uh of the development.
Uh also it says a number of these uh property lots are coming from the land bank.
Uh was there any uh homeowners near there?
Uh residents near there that requested uh a lot that they're not gonna be able to receive.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Next caller, please.
Our next caller is not that Karen.
Not that Karen, the floor is yours.
You have a minute 30 regarding line item six.
Yes, line item six.
Thank you for my 90 seconds.
Um the NEZ, it seems to be selectively issued out.
I'm only saying that because my home 30 years, I never got the NAZ, though I'm in Bagley, which wasn't any area that should have been given to me.
But I keep hearing excuses rather than solutions for being able to house people with uh handicaps or that are less mobile people as um the gentleman stayed at the town home, so naturally that was not uh would not be able to modify, but sure you can modify.
I think that you should set aside X amount of properties of apartments or townhouses, and then if a person with handicapped um needs accessibility, you can always put the stair lift in in for them.
So it's not like you can say, ah, you can't get in here because you got stairs.
I think we should start looking at the possibility.
It'll be it would be that person's eyesore, if you want to call it that, to put in the stair lift.
So I had to do that for my sister.
You put the stair lifts in so they can still get up the stairs, and so we can't just keep using that as an excuse to say that we can't put, you know, we can't make it accessible.
Sure, you can make it accessible.
You may not want to make it accessible, but there are options to make sure that people all people have an opportunity to take advantage of the tax breaks that these developers are getting.
And then that way people may be a little better about their tax dollars going towards all these developers and not having an opportunity to reap in the benefits.
Thanks.
All right.
Next caller, please.
Our next caller is Garrett Burton.
All right, caller, the floor is yours.
You have a minute 30 regarding line item six.
Hi, good morning.
Uh, my name is Garrett Burton.
I am uh Woodbridge resident, and I'm the uh president of the Woodbridge Citizens Council, which is the Woodbridge um neighborhood association.
Um speaking um in support of this development um and Mr.
Lockwood's application for the NEZ zone.
Um this is a part of the neighborhood that's um not gotten a lot of love over the past several years, and I I believe that by building new quality and affordable housing in in what is essentially a vacant area of the neighborhood, um, we'll grow our community in in a meaningful way.
And you know, I I understand that much of the existing neighborhood benefits from being designated as an NEZ zone, and I think we should extend that benefit to these new homes as well.
And just uh really quickly, Philip personally, I think has done a lot for our neighborhood.
Um he talked a little bit about it during his presentation, but he has organized several cleanups that I think have made our our neighborhood much better.
He is a frequent attendee at our community meetings.
He has kept us updated every step of the way.
You know, I wrote a letter in support of this project a little bit ago, and I I think it'll just make our neighborhood a lot better.
So I hope that you will um approve his application.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Next caller, please.
Our final caller is Ms.
Marguerite Maddox.
Margie Maddox, the floor is yours regarding line item six.
Are you there?
Yes, I'm here.
Thank you.
Um be um yeah, it's set to book.
And you're gonna be a automatic opening and the side by side was dry or uh or the rest of it one um uh we are the have it a grade or a or a lot here and beat me behind the B of you uh in front of the B of V um Vestable pattern that you see it can be done if you make it more accessible that means that they do not have way above the head we got again we uh not know what we should make out of thank you thank you I think that takes us to the end of our public comments.
All right, I'm gonna give the presenters an opportunity to respond to the comments and concerns and questions that the residents had, and whoever would like to begin, the floor is yours, Mr.
Chair, Ma'am.
I did want to make a um a comment brought to my attention by the members of um HDAP.
Um being a older building or historic building does not um alleviate you the ability or the necessity to apply um to fulfill ADA requirements.
I think that there may be instances where they need to get with the um historic district commission to maybe bit better understand how ADA laws apply to these buildings, but it does not in itself um alleviate the um requirement to uh uh adhere to ADA requirements.
Gotcha.
That's why I wanted to ask that question publicly because when it's stated, we've got to make sure that uh it's very clear on what the intent is of the law as well as what is going to be executed uh as it relates to ADA.
Oh, come on.
So then the other question is who who actually polices that, you know, that's the other question.
Uh but I see Mr.
Barr see your hand raised, please.
Uh oh, you may proceed.
You already introduced yourself for the record.
You may proceed.
Uh thank you, Mr.
Chair and members of the committee.
Um first of all, the question about AMI, I want to answer that and provide the answers, specific answers to the questions.
Uh the eighty percent AMI level that applies to Detroit is currently based at uh for a family of one, it's a in family income of fifty-six thousand five hundred and sixty dollars a year, and it goes up about five or eight thousand dollars per person in the household.
Uh, and that's applicable at all, all projects in Detroit and Southeast Michigan that are uh committed to the 80% level.
So from an income level, that's the income limit that would apply.
And in a studio, for example, $1,414 a month minus what's called the utility allowance, which often, depending on the utilities in the building, might be 75 to 125 a month, give or take.
So rule of thumb, yeah, about $1,300 per studio and about $1,500 for one bedroom.
And it goes up based on the size of the unit.
So those are the consistent standards.
That's what HRD looks for compliance and the programs that comply.
And that's what the enforcement of this program is about, and what we tell the developers.
These are the obligations you're going to make for those units that you're committing to be affordable at 80% AMI.
If it's a different AMI level, it goes up and down proportionally.
But that's the number that's used most often is 80%.
In terms of the comments about historic buildings, in this case, this is all new construction.
So the issue that that it's a very good question is let's get some clarity for the rehab buildings that are coming in is a great question.
And hopefully either BCED or planning and development can put forward information.
And I'm vaguely familiar with it.
But it certainly that's something I think everybody would benefit from some better understanding, anywhere from the developers to the committee and the full council, so we know what impediments and obligations are out there under ADA.
Of course, universal design is an issue over and above ADA.
And I'm encouraged by the thinking of going beyond ADA, because we know that's a federal standard.
And it's up to the city to decide what additional obligations and commitments you want out of developers.
The other question I heard or comment about the four units that are for sale.
Mr.
Bart, Mr.
Barkin, let me just say this though.
So I think when you say about the requirements from the city, it's one thing to wait until we come up with an ordinance.
The reason why we ask the question is because we're trying to give developers an opportunity to, in a way, help shape what that looks like before we as a body mandate something.
So I just want to make that very clear.
That's that's the goal.
That's the goal.
That's why we continue to raise it before we create some type of uh legislation that may or may not be uh something that you all would like to see.
Oh, through the chair, I completely agree and support that.
I did not mean to suggest that people should sit on their hands until an ordinance is codified by any means.
And similarly for the other issues that have come up and have and there's been a good dialogue coming out of your committee through the leadership of you and others uh on other issues, parking, for example, uh, and other things where the city has the concerns and as part of the tax abatement process has asked developers to commit to things.
That's an entirely appropriate discussion.
And as you know from the past, I've always volunteered to come sit down and talk about how to find a common ground so that people walk in here knowing what people are asking for and are able to commit to it now, having been prepped ahead of time.
You know, you know, I think it's a great outcome, a great goal.
And whatever I can do to contribute and be a bridge to that process, I stand ready, willing, and hopefully able uh to contribute uh on my own time.
Uh pro bono, as they say.
So please uh take that invitation with the intention of everybody being on the same page, because that's the best way for these things to work through.
Awesome.
Final thing I want to mention is someone asks the question of who's getting the benefits.
Uh, and this is a discussion we've had before on for sale versus rental.
The NEZ for the for sale units flows through to the owner of the home.
And that owner will would have lower taxes.
And under an NEZ for a new construction, it would be substantially lower than it would be without an NEZ.
Uh roughly 25% of what would be otherwise.
Uh, in the case of a rental unit, the developer still owns the building, so he's responsible or he or she is responsible for paying the taxes.
So the immediate benefit of the NEZ is to lower the operating costs.
And the theory, and I think it's reality, is if the operating costs are lower, they can keep the rents lower because they don't have to cover as many costs.
And we've seen that's part of why developers are able to afford to offer affordable rents and other things, uh, other benefits because the NEZ lowers their operating costs for the building just for the duration of the NEZ.
And as Mr.
Howell demonstrated on the charts, that goes away.
That's not forever.
The last thing I want to mention, I said I said I was done at the last one.
I apologize.
And naturally affordable house housing, NOH.
And that is that the certain number of units are going to be rented based on market rates without necessarily being subject to the 80% limits we talked about.
But in many parts of the city, the market rate rates are at or below the 80% AMI rate.
So when people come forward and say we're committing to 20% at no more than 80% of AMI, and we think we're going to have another 10 units whose market rate will be that same rate or below.
That's what they're trying to say by naturally affordable.
But I would call unregulated, but still affordable based on market conditions.
That's not necessarily forever.
You might have a an evolving neighborhood where the entire neighborhood is seeing higher market rents over time as the neighborhood gets stronger.
But the idea is the developer thinks that the market rates are gonna at least initially and probably for a good while, be below those 80% rates.
So that's the market will see both the regulated lower rates as well as the market rates that hopefully will all be below those 80% AMI levels as described in these uh discussions.
Thank you.
So that helped happy to answer any other questions.
Thank you.
Last question, really quick Cliff Note version, because we still have another public hearing to go.
Uh there was a question that was asked about um parking.
I don't know that we didn't spend that much time talking about parking.
So, really quickly, what is parking is projected to look like, including uh any any handicap uh parking uh allotments, garage, lot we talking.
Um I'm happy to address those.
Thank you.
Um our plan is for 62 parking spaces across this project.
And um, someone mentioned where they're placed.
They're always behind the building, accessed off the alley.
And that is um something I take seriously.
It's to maintain the walkability and to keep the uh sidewalks from being interrupted by curb cuts and driveways.
Um that is a frequent place where cars and pedestrians can come into collision.
So we're trying to keep the neighborhood character of Woodbridge by always putting the parking behind the buildings.
Uh 62 spaces is compliant uh with the parking minimums mandated by the zoning ordinance.
And um, I don't know the number offhand for the number of accessible spaces, but that is a requirement that we're going to, of course, comply with um as we go through the permitting and approvals process.
All right, thank you.
Colleagues, any additional questions, comments, concern regarding this particular item?
Uh seeing none, noting that this again is an NEZ.
We will have to allow for 60 day gestation period.
Um, if in fact this is uh recommended to uh be brought back as a nine item, we would ask for that to happen on November 20th.
Colleagues, is there a motion?
Uh thank you, Mr.
Chair.
And just to clarify, I said November the 20th.
20th.
Yes, okay.
Same day as the other.
Uh is there a motion?
Or is there a motion?
Sorry, Mr.
Chair.
We moved to bring back this item uh at 1030 a.m.
public hearing on November the 20th.
Thank you, sir.
As a motion to bring back line item um six, that is the 1030 public hearing as a excuse me, as a line item, excuse me.
Bringing back the public the 1030 public hearing back to committee as a line item on November 20th.
Seeing no objections, that action shall be taken.
Thank you so much.
This now closes out our 1030 public hearing.
Like to now call back to order the 1050 public hearing.
And for the folks who are here for some for some of the other items and it may be online.
We do have the to go through the agenda that we are have already uh noticed uh to the public, but your items will be coming up very shortly.
So just wanted to make that notification to those who may not be familiar with our process.
So the 1050 public hearing is a public hearing request for public hearing to approve a commercial rehabilitation certificate on behalf of Davidson Hamptramic building LLC in the area of 4306, 4330, 4340, East Davidson, Detroit, Michigan.
Uh, in accordance with Public Act 210 of 2005 with the parties who are participating.
When you see yourself on the screen, introduce yourself for the record.
Justice Cook, Housing and Revitalization Department.
Nicole Scott, Detroit Economic Growth Corporation.
Okay.
And I'm Brooke Booth.
I'm with the developer at PackHelp.
Good day.
Who would like to begin?
And again, as I mentioned, we do have a full agenda, so uh feel free to truncate where necessary, but uh no need to cut corners if it's going to be something that's going to be impactful to the presentation.
The floor is yours, answer.
Okay.
To the chair, Davidson Ham Tram McDuild and LLC is requesting a commercial rehabilitation exemption certificate.
This application is for a certificate, and this is the final public hearing currently scheduled in front of this honorable body.
I would like to turn the presentation over to my colleague Nicole Scott and the petitioner is present to answer any additional questions.
Thank you.
Thank you.
To the chair, may I share my screen, please?
Yes, ma'am.
Thank you.
Um can everyone see my screen okay?
Yes, ma'am.
All right, thank you.
Today we have come before this honorable honorable body to request a commercial rehabilitation exemption certificate for 4303, 4330, 4330 East Davison.
This project is being led by Dr.
Ted Nauman and Dr.
Greg Nauman of Epic Health.
Brooke Booth Brooke Booth, their legal counsel will be presenting on their behalf.
The Commercial Rehabilitation Act provides a reduction on the future increase in property taxes as a result of the rehabilitation of commercial and residential properties, including new construction.
If you turn your attention to year zero, you'll see a small dark green bar representing the amount of taxes currently paid on the property based on the investment of $3.4 million that would be made into this project.
Upon completion of the project, the assessor will reassess the property, and as a result of the improvement, the property's value will increase.
The owners will then be responsible for paying a piece of the increase in taxes represented by the till portion on the bar graph.
The total taxes that first year would be roughly $30,272, and the abated portion will be approximately $18,376, represented as the yellow bar on the graph.
Through the life of the abatement, the owner will pay the dark green and the till portion shown on the bar graph.
Assuming that they receive the full term of the abatement in year 11 after after the abatement has expired, they will be responsible for the entire amount of the taxes, which would be $36,093.
This project is a $3.4 million commercial development that will consist of 7,000 square feet of total space.
The development will be a new primary care physician office for Epic Health.
The facility facility will provide comprehensive services, including laboratory testing, x-rays, and instant video consultation with specialists.
The development is located in an existing commercial rehabilitation district that was established July 22nd of 2025.
The developers before you today are requesting a certificate.
On September 5th, 2025, the assessor's office wrote a letter confirming that this project meets the eligibility eligibility requirements for a commercial rehabilitation exempt exemption certificate.
We have completed our underwriting and netfisk net fiscal impact analysis.
The project demonstrates a financial need for the abatement.
Based on this review, we recommend approval of the certificate for 10 years on this project.
That concludes my presentation, Mr.
Chair, and I will now I will now turn it over to the development team to offer some more detail regarding this development.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you, Nicole.
I want to just do a quick introduction to our key developers here.
We have Dr.
Neiman and Dr.
Ted Neiman.
They have been physicians in Detroit for over 25 years.
They were raised in Detroit, um, and they have been practicing serving the marginalized people in Detroit.
We also have partnerships with K4 and an architect firm that are all local.
Also want to talk to you about we serve over 50,000 patients here in Detroit, and we have over 300 employees here in Southeast Michigan.
Go ahead and go to the next slide, Nicole, and we'll and I'll talk about our community engagement and our ADA accessibility.
I can speak to all of these things, Nicole.
It's not a problem at all.
So we have been very careful to make sure our site is fully ADA compliant.
You see here the things that we will be having part of our ADA, the parking, the curbs, the ramps, all of those things, the rooms, the reception counter, all of this will be friendly to ADA.
Next.
But we wanted to show it again.
Everything's been taken care of as far as far as stormwater management and making sure that what the department's asked for has been met next.
Do you want to highlight that we currently have 25?
We have 14 current new um full-time employees at the site in Detroit that will be moving into this new plan into this new building.
And that will add an additional 11 new full-time employees with a grand total of 25 when this project is fully up and running.
And then the next slide talks about our community engagement.
We have been very diligent in making sure that the community is aware of this project.
We have gathered over a dozen letters of support, including in the residents that are most um like geographically close to this location.
We have a resident just on the side street.
All of and we that we've gathered gathered letters of support for, and we wanted we have three here, but we do have quite a bit more from residents, from businesses, and from community organizations.
So that concludes our presentation, Mr.
Chair.
Thank you.
Any questions from colleagues?
Yep, Ms.
Barclay.
Yes, I still have my presentation.
Pardon me for that, ma'am.
It's okay.
One second, please.
But a minute, my computer is dying.
Okay, good morning.
Um, you have before you exclusive physicians LP, I mean PLLC, um the developers for this project on East David Avenue.
Um, the location, the subject location will be the new site for Epic Health, um, newest health center.
Detroit Natives Doctors Ted and Greg Nauman have serves in the Detroit community for over 25 years.
Epic Health is moving one of their nearby health centers to the subject location.
The site is comprised of three parcels, two vacant lots and one parcel with the dilapidated mechanical and truck repair facility, um, which will be demolished as part of this project.
A new 7,000 square foot one-story commercial building will be constructed on the combined 0.444 acre.
The new health center will provide comprehensive services at that location, including laboratory services, x-rays, video consultations, mammography service, physical therapy, and behavioral health.
The project is being built in coordination with the multifamily residential development, and a portion of the residential land would have to be rezoned to satisfy the parking requirements for the health center.
Epic Health has an option with the Detroit Land Bank to purchase that necessary land.
The estimated total um capital investment for this project is 3.42 million.
The sources of um funding are owner equity, grant funding, deferred fees, and permanent financing.
I mean, uh to take back the grant funding proportion.
The subject um project is estimated to create 14 um permanent positions, um, 20 temporary construction jobs, and the total value for the 10-year commercial rehabilitation tax savings is estimated at 21,211.
This project is estimated to provide the city of Detroit with a net benefit of 225,239 and a total net benefit for all taxi jurisdictions at $320,843.
Thank you.
And that concludes my presentation.
Thank you as well.
All right, colleagues, any questions, comments, concerns regarding the 1050 present, 1050 public hearing.
Member Johnson.
Thank you, Mr.
Chair, and good afternoon.
It is great to see a health care um facility expanding in the city of Detroit.
I do just want to ask what kind of community engagement or outreach do you all do in the area that you are looking to open this facility.
Did you want me to address that now or after all the questions have been asked?
No, you can you can address it now.
Okay, oh I'm happy to do that.
We have quite an extensive community outreach program that we do in all of our centers.
I'll give you an example of what that looks like.
We have nearby centers in 4059 West Davidson.
We have one on Seven Mile and one on Libernoy.
What we do quite regularly is we hold health screenings.
We have a community space that will be available for groups to meet for anything from book clubs to educational meetings.
We also have regular events where we host breakfast or lunch where community members can come and receive that free of charge and whether they're an epic patient or not.
These are examples of regular community events.
We focus on SDOH issues too, so we have those types of services available.
We help Medicare and Medicaid beneficiaries meet the regulatory needs to sign up and make sure that they are meeting the requirements to remain beneficiaries and other services like that.
All right, thank you for that.
Um and um addressing social determinants of health.
I do know and will say that I think not enough of our residents have a primary care physician, and and we have been um just really trying to encourage residents to seek a primary care physician to reduce the likelihood of utilizing the emergency room for such assistance uh as it relates to health care.
So again, really good to see you all in the community um and just appreciate the work that you're doing.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr.
Chair.
Thank you.
Any additional colleagues?
Seeing none, we'll now go to the public.
If there's anyone from the public who would like to speak, please raise your hand now.
If there's anyone from the public who would like to speak on the 1050 public hearing, that is a presentation that we just saw.
Please raise your hand now.
Going once, going twice, going three times.
Collection of public comments have now concluded.
I see no hands in the committee of the whole, Miss Caprice.
How many do we have online?
We have three callers online.
Our first caller being Cindy Dara.
Ms.
Dara, the floor is yours.
You have a minute 30 regarding line item seven.
Ms.
Dara, are you there?
Let's put Ms.
Dara at the end of the queue.
Go to the next caller, please.
Our next caller is Owner Papa.
All right, caller, the floor is yours.
Minute 30 regarding line item seven.
Uh good afternoon.
And through the chairman, I'll be heard.
Yes.
Thank you.
Um I think this sets a precedence for Detroit to have to subsidize every business that comes through here.
Um while health care is an important issue in the city of Detroit, we've already subsidized Henry Ford Hospital and others that uh that have come into the city.
I'm not sure why we are responsible for subsidizing all of these things, but as Epic, the same Epic that has the um the program where you log in and look at patients' um medical records.
Is that um like uh are are they the same epic that does this service for hospitals and um others?
Um I would like to know if they're in any other community and are they subsidized this way in another community that they might reside in or want to do business in.
Thank you.
All right.
Next caller, please.
Our next caller is Ms.
Marguerite Maddox.
Ms.
Maddox, the floor is yours regarding line item seven.
Yeah.
Um weird mobility.
Uh uh.
Um be a hip the agreement.
A head the we need the April that are just not an healing leave.
Um really talking.
Um thank you.
I think we're gonna be turning back to Miss Cynthia Dara.
Ms.
Dara, are you there?
Ms.
Dar, you there can leave that's our last call or going once going twice, Ms.
Dara.
Are you there?
Going three times.
Unfortunately.
Is that you, Ms.
Darr?
All right, unfortunately, we're gonna have to move on, Ms.
Darv.
You'd like to provide your comments to the clerk's office that will be placed onto public record.
All right, give our presenters an opportunity to provide uh responses to the questions, comments, concerns of the public raise.
Whoever would like to begin, floor is yours.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
I will respond in order um to the callers.
So are we the same epic as the epic that provides medical record?
It's it's we are not the epic I that's in the red font that you see if you sign into a my chart or something that is a completely different company.
They are multinational, very large.
We are locally owned, we provide primary care, we do not provide that type of um service.
Do we get subsidies from other communities?
Um we are primarily located here in Southeast is Michigan.
Um I attended a similar hearing like this earlier this week in the city of Southfield, so the answer is yes, we do, and it is granted to us primarily because we are mission-driven and because we provide services that are critical to um the health of the community as already noted.
If you can take care of primary care, you can avoid so many additional costs on the other end of the healthcare spectrum.
I want to speak to accessibility that the second caller mentioned.
Um our buildings are all fully built out to accommodate mobility devices, they have the extra wide doors, they have those types of things already built in this building.
Will as well.
Um we have ADA design in the bathrooms, we have ADA design in the reception area.
There's a lower counter for that.
Do we have ASL interpreters?
If a patient presents with that need, we will make sure that that need is met.
Do we keep those ASL interpreters on staff at all time?
We do not.
It is only as a neat basis.
We do have technology for interpretation in multiple languages.
We have over 30 languages that we can get instant translation for.
ASL would be one that we would need to bring in extra support.
I believe those are all the questions that were asked.
Uh, to the chair, I would like to address the um statement regarding subsidy in the city of Detroit.
I just wanted to highlight that um tax abatements are not a subsidy given by the city, they are a discount on the future taxes that will never come to fruition if the project does not happen.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Any additional colleagues?
Questions, comments, concerns, seeing none.
Is there a motion for line item seven?
Thank you, Mr.
Chair.
I will that we send line item seven or 1050 a.m.
public hearing the formal with the recommendation to approve.
Thank you so there's a motion to send line item seven to formal with a recommendation to approve.
See no objections, that action shall be taken.
Thank you so much.
And that concludes our 1050 public hearing.
We'll now go into unfinished business colleagues.
So we can please take line items line 8.1 and 9.11 together, please.
So move.
Thank you.
Line number 8.1 is the response to the uh line item 9.11 where the question was asked about uh increasing the NEZ boundaries within the Bagley community.
Uh both of those items, the response again is been provided.
There's no indication that there was any further questions.
Colleagues, is there a uh motion to receive and file both line items 8.1 and 9.11?
So move, Mr.
Chair.
Uh Mr.
Gulach, yes, sir.
Uh good afternoon.
Chris Gulach, CPC staff.
Yeah, we were just informed by the Office of Assessors that this should be referred to the budget finance and audit committee.
Um there's they would be expected to have a public hearing if they want to move this forward.
But but that that would happen in another venue, not from us.
We don't we're not gonna refer it there.
That goes to the president's office and then president's office be referred.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right.
Colleagues, is there a motion to receive and file 8.1 and 9.11?
So move, Mr.
Chair.
See no objections.
That action shall be taken.
Thank you.
Line item 8.2 and 8.3.
Colleagues, if we can take those together, please.
So move.
Thank you so much.
Both of these are concerning uh status of council member Scott Benson uh submitting a memorandum request for a resolution uh supporting diverse athletic offerings in the proposed Pistons Waterfront multiplex multi-sports complex, excuse me.
Line item 8.3 is the request in line item.
No, I'm sorry, uh line item eight point two.
Yes, line item eight point three is the uh memo and line item eight point two is the actual resolution.
Colleagues, is there a motion to receive and file line item eight point three?
So moved.
See no objections that action shall be taken.
Is there a motion for approval or discussion for line item eight point two?
Uh thank you, Mr.
Chair.
I move to send line item eight point two to formal with the recommendation to approve.
There's a motion to send line item eight point two to formal with a recommendation to approve.
Objection seeing one objection.
That action shall be taken.
Noting uh member Johnson was that objector.
Thank you so much.
Line item eight point five.
No, excuse me, line item eight point four.
We've got that one.
Line item eight point four status of council president pro Tim James.
Take contract number six zero zero seven three one five, one hundred percent city funding.
Uh this is to provide tax preparation services uh and filing returns and eligible individuals uh including earned tax income.
We're we're fine with the uh question we had there, colleagues.
So is there we'll appreciate a motion to approve.
Move to send the item to formal with the recommendation to approve.
Thank you so much.
There's a motion to send line item 8.4 to formal with a recommendation to approve.
Seeing no objections, that action shall be taken.
Line item 8.5 for the parties who are participating, please come forward.
Ms.
Castleberry, come on up as well.
Wanted to hear from you.
Um try to bring some finality to this issue in this committee today.
Uh line item 8.5 of the status of city planning commission.
Uh, this is the request of Mr.
Tina Casaberry to rezone the property at 4213 and 422 uh 5 West Davidson from an R3 to a B2 zoning classification.
Uh is there a motion to discuss, please?
So moved.
Thank you so much.
So we've been here.
This is our third week on this particular item, and we're the hope was that we would be able to advance at least the discussion about what happens next, because we talked in the first the first uh time we discussed this.
We got the overall recommendation from the city planning commission.
Um the second um meeting that we had, it was regarding more of the background and where do we go from here and today like to learn what discussions have uh taken place uh in the interim.
So Ms.
Castleberry, good morning.
Please introduce yourself for the record and uh as well as Dr.
Bulger.
Tina Castleberry, owner of the Garden Bank.
Rory Bulger, City Planning Commission staff, legislative policy division, and Mr.
Todd is with us as well from CPC.
Okay, Mr.
Director Todd, please introduce yourself for the record.
Certainly.
Excuse me.
Good afternoon, Mr.
President Pro Tem Marcel Todd, director of City Planning Commission, Deputy Director, Legislative Policy Division.
All right, thank you as always for being here.
All right, Ms.
Castleberry.
So we know we talked about the uh and I'm not sure we have anyone from planning, just so we can cue them up in case there's any uh be there as well.
Mr.
Chair, uh Director Bush is also present.
Okay, I don't see her on my screen.
That's got a different view.
Uh we can pull her over, that'll be appreciated.
All right, Miss Castleberry.
So talk to us about uh any conversations that you have with the planning uh department.
I know that's what we were hoping was going to take place between uh last Thursday and today.
So if you can catch us up to speed, we appreciate Alexa Bush and I met yesterday, and she was proposing R3.
R3 would include domestic violence location, um, something for veterans, something for potentially a boarding school, um, possibly child care or something like that were options that we could use the building for or the structure for work under R3.
Um there was a possibility of spot zoning.
Um so she was going to put in her recommendation to see also, I think it was B2 or B3.
Um it was something too that um could potentially be looked into.
So as we left the conversation yesterday, Alexa Bush and I uh agreed that that may be a strong option to move forward.
And she also mentioned that she would reach out to uh Detroit Land Bank to see if we can get an extension on time to complete the project and I can move forward uh pulling prevents.
Okay.
Uh Director Bush, thank you for joining us.
We see you on the screen.
I don't know if you heard all that was mentioned by Miss Castleberry.
Uh would love to hear what you have to add, ma'am.
Good afternoon, and through the chair, um Alexa Bush, Director of Planning and Development.
As mentioned, Miss Castleberry and I did meet yesterday to talk about her preferred options.
Um what we discussed is similar to what she described, that the existing zoning of this property is already an R3.
Um, and without you know, further action on her end, she would be entitled by right to do any of the uses that are permissible in an R3 on that structure.
Um from there, what we discussed was you know, a couple of um steps we would need to take.
Um, one would be yes to have a follow-up conversation with the land bank, as her purchase agreement was written for the purpose of investing in this building as a retail building.
Uh in conversations with the land bank, they would be amenable to amending that to ensure that the um use aligns with what Miss Castleberry would like to do within an R3.
Uh the second piece would be bringing the structure into compliance.
Um we talked about some of the improvements proposed for the house that would likely be, you know, whether it's HVAC or otherwise necessary, regardless of the use, that we would need to continue to follow up with the building department to ensure that she had all the proper permits to bring the structure up to compliance with code.
Um that would both enable her to legally and meeting all the requirements, use the building for that use and also complete the conditions of the sale with the DLBA.
Um we discussed at a high level other opportunities.
Um, the Dexter pop-up looking at other city-owned sites in the neighborhood, and Miss Castleberry expressed to me that her preference would be not to pursue those options but continue to proceed with what would be legally permissible at the structure on Davison.
Okay.
All right.
Um anything else uh colleagues want to add.
I see member Johnson.
Yes, thank you, Mr.
Chair.
Um, and good afternoon to all of you.
I'm curious to know what the proposed use would be considering the R3 designation.
Ms.
Castleberry, have you given thought to that?
Yes.
Um I'm thinking nonprofit.
I'm thinking possibly child care.
And I'm also thinking possibly uh domestic violence.
So those are the three I would be considering.
Okay.
All right.
Thank you.
That's what our entrepreneur does.
Like shift if she has to, you know, good what she does.
Thank you.
Um, I of course we don't want to see the business go to waste.
Um, and I don't know if I missed it, but as far as the business, um, plans to continue uh and plant roots somewhere.
Uh any thoughts, Miss Castleberry, on on that.
Just um looking towards the future uh for the business.
I know you mentioned in your public comment about uh Russell Woods kind of losing the opportunity for the garden center, and I wanted to just dive a little bit deeper into that.
You want a response?
Yes, ma'am.
It's not just Russell Woods.
Yeah, we have customers coming from as far as Ann Arbor, um Ipsilanny, Oakland County, Macomb County, Clint Township.
I mean, my customer base is over a thousand customers.
So this is not some hole in the wall, teeny tiny.
So it was almost offensive to look at the properties on Dexter and Liminois, because if you wouldn't put an English gardens there, you probably wouldn't put a garden park there.
We house almost $50,000 worth of inventory that sits outside all day, every day.
Well, only open four months out of the year.
So the goal was to accommodate the North End, which is outselling the Grand Mont Rose area.
So the impact isn't just to Russell Woods, it's the entire Tri-County area.
Okay.
I love to have have some deeper conversations with you offline as well as with uh the team about just possible opportunities.
But again, Mr.
Chair, we are where we are based on the history of this.
Um, you know, uh obviously there's a use for the residency uh as is.
I don't want to I I wouldn't want you to own something that there is no use to.
But I'd be interested in having some conversations nonprofit-wise, what you're thinking, because there are also great opportunities that can service that area uh as well, uh, and then uh some possibility of things that may be open uh to help push that nonprofit as well.
So I'd love to talk to you offline as well as maybe some folks from the DEGC of how we connect those dots.
Thank you, Mr.
Chair.
Thank you.
I have one more question, too.
I wondered if there was some way somehow they could expunge the tickets that they've written for the mochin dirt designed property.
Um I have about $1,800 in violations for having a sign on the gate or mochin dirt on the property.
I'm not sure where we go next for that.
Through you, Mr.
Chair.
That is not under my purview.
Okay.
Uh that's more as uh a BC question.
Uh and then once blight tickets have been issued, there is an entire process that goes through that through Blight Court and things of that nature.
But uh I will get somebody with my team to follow up with you so we again we can connect those dots uh and and try to uh uh provide some sense uh of healing, I want to say.
Uh, this has been an issue that has been long standing uh for you, and it is not easy uh for you.
Uh and I don't I do not uh again take that lightly.
Um unfortunately we have to do what is what is under the law uh and based on recommendations.
Uh but I do want to ensure that you are able to to operate uh and that you're not harmed in any way for things that were not uh uh your fault.
Uh but uh we'll we'll get together after this, have a conversation, we'll talk to BC, we'll talk to the administration as well uh to see uh what the next step is relative to to that issue uh of the tickets.
I don't have that answer uh and I don't have the authority to say that we can wipe the slate clean on that, but I'd love to have those conversations as well.
Thank you, Mr.
Chair.
Thank you.
All right, since there's no further on this particular item, colleagues, is there a motion uh for line item 8.5?
Thank you, Mr.
Chair.
Move to send a formal with a recommendation to approve.
With discussion.
It's a motion to send line item 8.5 to formal with a recommendation to approve with discussion, Member Johnson.
Thank you, Mr.
Chair.
Um, I do just want to share that we will be sending a memo to the DEGC relative to this entire um situation.
So I just wanted to put that on the record because I do have some concerns with the way things uh transpire throughout the entire process, and I don't want that to be set aside.
Um so just wanted to add that.
Thank you, Mr.
Chair.
Thank you.
And just for clarity, the the motion to approve, would that be to approve the uh recommendation of CPC?
Correct correct, Mr.
Chair, just to be just for clarity is the approval of the denial, which is the recommendation of the CPC.
Um with a little bit further discussion.
I did not I'd be remiss if I didn't want to, if I did not thank the ombudsman uh again for his diligence in that matter, providing that information as well as all parties involved, kind of trying to figure out where this timeline is to member Johnson's point.
We want to ensure that this doesn't happen again.
Um, you know, uh there needs to be safeguards uh in place from both ends.
Uh again, there were mistakes made uh on both ends, uh, but uh we've got to catch it uh so it doesn't stretch out from for years to come.
Uh and I think if there are some safeguards put in place, maybe some policy changes as well, uh, we can have the opportunity to see or to ensure that this does not happen uh again.
And so uh that concludes my commentary on it, Mr.
Chair.
I've already made the motion to send this to formal with a recommendation to approve, and that's CPC's, you know, approved CPC's recommendation, sir.
Thank you.
And I also want to uh give a major shout out to the embudsman's office, umbudsman himself, uh Mr.
Simpson for the hard work.
I mean, this could have been even more convoluted and challenging without uh the investigative services that you provided and analysis.
So thank you, sir, and your team for uh providing some a bit more clarity.
Uh, but also want to uh thank uh director uh Bush uh as well as Ms.
Castleberry.
Um we were sitting down, we're now having conversations, but uh to my colleagues' point, very interested to see uh how pervasive this is um as it relates to the processes that we have or don't have in place and what we need to tighten up some things.
So uh again, this was very enlightening.
First one we had like this.
Um but the question is are there others out there that we are going to be brought before us?
We don't know, but again, I think we got the right people in place to make sure that we are able to get down to the to the the crux of things.
So thank you.
So there's a motion to uh approve the denial that was provided by the city planning commission, their recommendation and send to formal with the recommendation to approve.
Any objections?
See none, that action shall be taken.
Thank you so much.
All right.
Well head on to line item eight point six.
Line item eight point six status of council president pro Tim James State, submit a memorandum relative to request for comp comprehensive list of tax abatements in district one.
Colleagues, can we get a two-week bring back on this particular item, please?
So move, Mr.
Chair.
Thank you, sir.
There's a motion to bring back line item eight point six in two weeks.
See no objections, then action shall be taken.
Colleagues, if we can please take line items eight point seven and nine point nine together, please.
So move.
Motion to discuss, thank you.
Line item eight point seven.
This is a uh memo uh that we submitted regarding request for ADA universal design and bird safety uh mitigation details concerning uh the bridge uh that will be connecting Huntington Place and the uh hotel over there.
Uh line item nine point nine is the response we got officially uh colleagues.
Is there a motion please to receive and file uh 8.7 and 9.9?
So move.
Seeing no objections, we should receive and file both 8.7 and 9.9.
Those action shall be taken.
Line item 8.
Excuse me, 8.8, status of council member Mary Water, submitting memorandum relative to properties owned by real token LLC and other cryptocurrency entities.
There is a request for a two-week bring back on this particular item, colleagues.
Is there a motion?
Move to bring back in two weeks.
As a motion to bring back line item 8.8 in two weeks.
See no objections, then action shall be taken.
We are now on to line item 9.1 in new business, Office of Contracting and Procurement, submitting resolution authorization for contract number 6005217-A1, 100% ARPA funding.
This is an extension of time only for housing counseling services.
Uh contractor Jefferson East.
Time increase only, colleagues.
Is there a motion to discuss and or approve?
Thank you, Mr.
Chair.
I have no further questions for this.
Uh move to send a formal with a recommendation to approve.
There's a motion to send line item 9.1 to formal with a recommendation to approve.
Seeing no objections, that action shall be taken.
Line item 9.2, a very similar uh resolution.
This is contract number 6006553-A1.
Uh same service, different location.
Uh this was for Freedom House, colleagues.
Extension of time only.
Is there a motion to discuss and or approve?
Uh move to send a formal with a recommendation to approve.
There's a motion to send line item 9.2 to formal with a recommendation to approve.
Seeing no objections, that action shall be taken.
Line item 9.3 submitting resolution authorization.
This is contract number 6006557.
Uh this on uh similar that provide an extension of time, but also increasing funds for development of uh public facility rehabilitation accessibility upgrades at St.
Patrick Senior Center.
Contract increase amount of 560, excuse me, 526,184 dollars.
Is there a motion to discuss and or approve?
Thank you, Mr.
Chair.
Much needed for this particular project.
Move to send a formal with a recommendation to approve.
As a motion to send to formal line item 9.3 uh recommendation to approve and send a formal with recommendation to approve.
Seeing no objections, that action shall be taken.
Line item 9.4, submitting resolution authorization for contract number uh 600 6555-A1.
So 100% ARPA funding.
Uh very similar.
Uh this is for time only.
Location this time at national national council on alcoholism and drug dependence.
Excuse me, colleagues.
Uh again, time only.
Is there a motion to discuss and or approve?
Thank you, Mr.
Chair.
Uh move to send a formal with a recommendation to approve.
There's a motion to send line item 9.5 to formal with a recommendation to approve.
Seeing no objections, that action shall be taken.
Line item 9.5, submitting resolution authorization contract number 6006559-A1.
Uh this again is for extension of time only for pre-development at public facility uh rehabilitation accessibility upgrades.
Uh Nash, this is the contract to national council on alcoholism and drug dependency time only.
Colleagues, motion to discuss and or approve.
Just brief discussion really quick, Mr.
Chair.
With discussion, member vice chair.
These are both uh from the same organization.
I'm trying to remember, are they for the same location?
I believe they're different locations, but just want to clarify.
All right, then we have Mr.
Cat Catrenar.
He should be able to provide us with some insight.
Here we actually have Steven.
Whoever we have, we can let's pull them on over.
Hello, Steve Jurdot, HRD.
Good day.
I don't know if you heard the question.
If not, we can have it repeated for you.
Yes, to the chair, I appreciate it.
Um there are two different locations.
I believe what was put on the agenda is the address of the main office.
Uh the the second contract is the pre-development is actually at a McNichol's location.
Okay, thank you.
Uh uh for sensitivity issues.
I don't I don't need to know the specific address right now, but uh just wanted to clarify that uh I know we have the main office location on there uh noted in the agenda.
So just wanted to provide that transparency for the public as well.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Colleagues, is there a motion?
Move to send a formal with a recommendation to approve, Mr.
Chair.
That's a motion to send line item 9.5 to formal with a recommendation to approve.
Seeing no objections, that action shall be taken.
Colleagues, if we can please take line items 9.6 through 9.8.
All of these items are 100% city funding and amendments to uh provide an extension uh only for time only uh to operate to a bank uh to support the serve Detroit uh volunteer program in three different locations within the city of Detroit.
Uh is there a motion to discuss and or approve?
Thank you, Mr.
Chair.
No, I'm a big fan of this program.
Uh move to send all of these items to formal with a recommendation to approve.
Thank you.
Uh with with with brief discussion, just want to uh see and seeing that this is being these three items are being uh requested for extension of time only.
Would love to get a report on the um uh the progress and the effectiveness and the uh how the the how these services are actually being utilized.
So we will be submitting a memo uh requesting that uh and we'll get that information, but I have no issue with the extension of time only either.
There's a motion on the floor, colleagues.
Uh any objections.
Seeing none, we shall send line items nine point six through nine point eight to formal with a recommendation to approve.
That action shall be taken.
Line item nine point ten.
Dropping down line item nine point ten, submitting report relative to two thousand and twenty-five secondary street sign applications updated report.
Um is there a motion, colleagues, to bring this item back uh on the day that we actually have the discussion in the hearing on October 23rd.
So move, Mr.
Chair.
Seeing no objections, we should bring back line item 9.10 on October 23rd.
That action shall be taken.
All right, drop it down to line item 9.12 from the planning and development department, submitting resolution authorization of temporary construction easement at 6342 Waterloo and 225 Meldrum as well as 2201 Meldrum.
Is there a motion to discuss and or approve?
Move to send a formal with a recommendation to approve.
There's a motion to send line item 9.12 to formal with a recommendation to approve.
Seeing no objections, then action shall be taken.
All right, dropping down to line item 9.13.
Submitted memorandum relative to BZA questions.
Colleagues, is there a motion to refer this item to LPD and bring back in two weeks?
So moved.
See no objections, that action shall be taken.
It takes us to the end of our agenda.
Now it's member reports.
Member Vice Chair.
Negative report from me, Mr.
Chair.
No report from member vice chair.
Thank you, sir.
Member Johnson.
Thank you, Mr.
Chair.
No report.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
I think I'm gonna do a hat trick.
There's no report from me.
I see no objections.
Is there a motion to adjourn?
Oh, Mr.
Chair.
Oh, yes, ma'am.
We need the approval of the minutes.
Oh, I thought we did it.
I'm sorry.
Colleagues, thank you, madam clerk.
Is there a motion to approve the minutes?
So moved.
Seeing no objections that action shall be taken.
And we still getting out of here before one o'clock.
Seeing no objections.
Is there a motion to adjourn?
So moved, Mr.
See no objections that action shall be taken.
This meeting is adjourned.
Planning and Economic Development Standing Committee Meeting - September 18, 2025
The committee convened on Thursday, September 18, 2025, at approximately 10:00 AM under Chair James Tate. The meeting included general public comment, three public hearings on tax abatement requests, and consideration of numerous unfinished and new business items. Key decisions included advancing two Neighborhood Enterprise Zone (NEZ) district requests for 60-day gestation, approving a Commercial Rehabilitation Exemption Certificate, and denying a rezoning request while directing the applicant to pursue permitted uses under existing zoning.
Public Comments & Testimony
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General Public Comments (15 speakers, 1.5 minutes each):
- Tina Castleberry (owner, The Garden Block) expressed concern about losing a gardening center and thanked the committee for discussion.
- A speaker (name not given) supported a zoning change from R3 to B2 at Davison and Potaski, calling for community education on zoning and criticizing the Land Bank for not informing buyers of restrictions.
- A speaker criticized Ms. Castleberry for failing to complete required paperwork for Motor City Match funding, and urged the city to enforce the law.
- Scottie (public commenter) accused officials of fraud and misconduct, referencing a death and alleged trap houses.
- Eb (caller) described her situation: 11 years in a rental, landlord died, property in foreclosure, auction bid at $27,000; she asked for tenant rights to prevent displacement.
- Betty A. Barner (President, D.E.S.O.D.A. Elsewhere Black Association) promoted donations and senior assistance programs.
- Miko Williams criticized Chair Tate for not holding a district tour on the Land Bank MOU, alleging conflict of interest and lack of resident input.
- Stephen Haring defended himself against Miko Williams' comments, calling him mentally ill and citing his own business success.
- William M. Davis criticized Mayor Mike Duggan for using surplus funds to cover tax revenue declines due to abatements, and predicted he would not be elected governor if he does not help city retirees.
- Not That Karen agreed with Mr. Davis, calling for an end to retiree clawbacks and repurposing the Renaissance Center for housing.
- Owner Papa criticized the city for giving tax breaks to developers while ignoring retirees and residents facing foreclosure, and called for a moratorium on planning department approvals.
- Belicia distinguished between speaking about white people and white policies, and asked about police union endorsements.
- Mike Shane spoke on behalf of Ebony Boyd (foreclosure case), urging council to call Eric Sabree to pull the house from auction.
- Tracy Peters (District 4 resident) commented on the Land Bank MOU, citing Section 756 on preservation of property value, and asked for transparency.
- Christine Holmes (Woodbridge Neighborhood Development) spoke in support of agenda item 6 (NEZ request in Woodbridge).
- Marguerite Scarlet Mattox thanked members for a walk-through and urged keeping families together and addressing homelessness.
- Joanne Warwick criticized the city for not holding demo contractors accountable, and noted that the council could have prevented foreclosures by taking occupied properties out of tax auction, as was done in 2017.
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Public Comments on Line Item 5 (NEZ for 663 Prentice):
- A speaker raised concerns about management at the Dr. Maya Angelou building and lack of recycling.
- Not That Karen criticized the selection of older buildings that exclude accessible housing, and opposed using historic buildings as an excuse to avoid ADA compliance.
- Betty A. Barner asked about parking in midtown, noting meters and wondering if residents pay.
- William M. Davis asked about handicap/senior accessibility and parking problems.
- Marguerite Maddox spoke briefly (unclear).
- Owner Papa asked what projects the developer has previously worked on, noted that NEZs hurt the general fund, and called for a moratorium until a look-back is done.
- Cindy Dara spoke about rising rents and the need to evaluate past NEZ projects.
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Public Comments on Line Item 6 (NEZ for 12th and Forest):
- Cindy Dara questioned the policy of tax breaks for improvements and suggested state law changes.
- Owner Papa asked about 80% AMI dollar amounts, who gets the abatement, the meaning of "naturally occurring affordability," and argued that all projects should be held until a fiscal impact review is done.
- William M. Davis asked about parking and whether nearby residents were given priority for Land Bank lots.
- Not That Karen argued that NEZs are selectively issued, and that developers can make buildings accessible with stair lifts, so they should not use accessibility as an excuse.
- Garrett Burton (President, Woodbridge Citizens Council) spoke in support of the development and Mr. Lockwood's application.
- Marguerite Maddox spoke briefly about accessibility and design.
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Public Comments on Line Item 7 (Commercial rehab for Epic Health):
- Owner Papa questioned why the city subsidizes every business, and asked if Epic Health (the EMR company) is the same entity and if they receive subsidies elsewhere.
- Marguerite Maddox spoke briefly about mobility and accessibility.
Discussion Items
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Line Item 5 – NEZ District Request for 663 Prentice Street (Midtown Detroit PropCo LLC):
- Presented by David Howell (DEGC) and developer Michael O'Connor. The project is a $4.1M renovation of a 29-unit building (15 studios, 14 one-bedrooms, currently 90% occupied). Improvements include new roof, windows, masonry, HVAC. Existing rents $750-$1,150; current residents capped at 2% annual increase. At turnover, 10% of units at 60% AMI and 10% at 80% AMI. Projected 15-year net benefit to city: $374,614. Developer noted challenges with ADA in pre-war building (no elevator). Chair Tate asked about recycling; member Johnson requested developer consider recycling. Public comments raised concerns about accessibility, parking, and the precedent of NEZs. Committee voted to bring back as a line item on November 20, 2025 (60-day gestation).
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Line Item 6 – NEZ District Request for 12th and Forest (XYZ Development):
- Presented by David Howell and developer Phil Lockwood. Multi-phase project: 4 for-sale condos, 46 rental units, plus event space. Total investment $18.7M. 20% of rental units at 80% AMI, plus additional naturally occurring affordable units. Parking: 62 spaces behind buildings. Public comments questioned AMI levels, abatement benefits, parking, and accessibility. Committee voted to bring back as a line item on November 20, 2025.
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Line Item 7 – Commercial Rehabilitation Exemption Certificate for 4306-4340 E. Davison (Epic Health):
- Presented by Nicole Scott (DEGC) and Brooke Booth. $3.4M project to build a 7,000 sq ft primary care clinic. 10-year abatement, net benefit to city $225,239. Developer noted 25 permanent jobs, ADA compliance, and community engagement. Public comments questioned subsidies. Committee voted to send to formal session with recommendation to approve.
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Line Item 8.5 – Rezoning Request (4213 & 4225 W. Davison, Tina Castleberry):
- Ms. Castleberry's request to rezone from R3 to B2 for a garden center. After discussions with Planning Director Alexa Bush, she agreed to pursue uses permitted under R3 (nonprofit, childcare, domestic violence shelter). CPC recommended denial of rezoning. Committee voted to approve CPC's denial and send to formal session, with members noting systemic issues and thanking the ombudsman.
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Other Business Items:
- Items 8.1, 9.11 (NEZ boundary extension) referred to Budget, Finance and Audit Committee.
- Item 8.2 (resolution supporting diverse athletic offerings at Pistons multiplex) sent to formal with recommendation to approve (one objection from member Johnson).
- Item 8.4 (tax preparation services contract) sent to formal.
- Item 8.6 (request for list of tax abatements in District 1) brought back in two weeks.
- Items 8.7, 9.9 (ADA/bird safety for bridge) received and filed.
- Item 8.8 (properties owned by real token LLC) brought back in two weeks.
- Items 9.1-9.5, 9.6-9.8 (various contract extensions and amendments) sent to formal with recommendations to approve.
- Item 9.10 (secondary street sign applications) brought back October 23.
- Item 9.12 (temporary construction easement) sent to formal.
- Item 9.13 (BZA questions) referred to LPD and brought back in two weeks.
Key Outcomes
- Line Item 5 (NEZ for 663 Prentice): Motion to bring back as a line item on November 20, 2025, approved without objection.
- Line Item 6 (NEZ for 12th and Forest): Motion to bring back as a line item on November 20, 2025, approved without objection.
- Line Item 7 (Commercial rehab for Epic Health): Motion to send to formal session with recommendation to approve, approved without objection.
- Line Item 8.5 (Rezoning denial): Motion to approve CPC's recommendation of denial and send to formal session, approved without objection.
- Line Item 8.2 (Pistons multiplex resolution): Motion to send to formal with recommendation to approve, approved with one objection (member Johnson).
- All other items (8.1, 8.3, 8.4, 8.6, 8.7, 8.8, 9.1-9.5, 9.6-9.8, 9.10, 9.12, 9.13): Approved as moved (receive and file, bring back, refer, or send to formal) without objection, unless noted.
- Minutes: Approved.
- Adjournment: Motion carried.
Meeting Transcript
Welcome to the planning and economic development standing committee for today, Thursday, September 18th, 2025. Madam Clerk, good morning. Please call the role. Council President Pro Tim James Tate. Councilmember Fred Durha Third. Councilmember Letitia Johnson. Johnson indicates on her way as well, having some traffic issues and vehicle challenges and things like that. Which does not stop us from opening for public comment, though. We shall do that at this moment. We shall now call for public comment. If there's anyone who would like to provide public comment to this committee, please raise your hand now. See one. I didn't ask you to come up. Just raise your hand and said one, two, three, four. Anybody else? I see four hands in the committee of the whole. I see four. All right. How many have do we have online, Miss Caprice? Good morning. We have 14 hands online. Fourteen hands online. All right, so we're gonna give today we do have public hearings. They are back, everybody. So we're gonna give everyone a minute and a half for general public comment. And we're gonna start with the folks who are in the committee of the whole. For those who raise your hand, I saw four hands. That's all I saw. One, two, three, and I saw a fourth one over there. All right, so you all we've got three seats up front. Um, and you'll be guided to where they are, pointing them out. One, two, three. You're gonna have a microphone in front of you. It's currently going to be red. You're gonna push a bottom at the button at the bottom of the mic when it turns green. Speak. The floor is yours. Good morning, sir. All right. And please keep your eyes on the clock because I gotta give everybody a minute to have the same amount of time. That is what I must do by open meetings actually rules. And I'll start uh to my far left. We'll start with Miss Castleberry. Floor is yours, ma'am. Good morning. Good morning, Tina Castleberry, owner of the garden block. I just want to say um, with much discussion this week. Um, I think we've come to a resolution. Um, but my final comments would be I think it's very tragic to both my city and suburb, advocate gardeners, um, if it's not a gardening center. And that's all I have to say.
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