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Detroit City Council Meeting – October 2, 2025

City CouncilThursday, October 2, 2025
BodyDetroit, Michigan
SessionCity Council
DateThursday, October 2, 2025
StatusFILED
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1:37

Presentation in this article, he proposes a tax cut for married couples to move into the city.

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And uh we looked online so there's wonderful tax cuts for homeownership, there's but there's uh the uh down payment assistance, there's renaissance zones, but this is one area that we think we want to propose legislation for to uh give tax incentives for uh married couples to move into the city, which will help uh stimulate uh uh stability, help kids see fathers in the neighborhood, and that would help uh resolve the problem of neighborhood uh fatherlessness, improve neighborhoods, and so that's why we're here today to propose that piece of legislation that you take that up.

2:26

Thank you.

2:27

Thank you, sir.

2:29

Um, and we will now move on to Mr.

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Reverend Rodney Hamilton.

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Two minutes.

2:37

Thank you.

2:38

Um thank you for this opportunity.

2:40

Um I'm Reverend Rodney Hamilton, I'm the senior pastor of Mount Lebanon Missionary Baptist Church.

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Our church is located at 13925 Linwood Street, Detroit, Michigan.

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We're at the corner of Linwood in Open Court, four blocks north of Davidson.

2:54

Amen.

2:54

Um as you can see, me and Reverend Cosbo, we have come together, you know, we're trying to do things as a for for the community as a church, which you don't see much anymore.

3:07

And we had our first uh community family and friends day on May 25th, and it was, you know, we brought all the community in and we just let the community know that we're as a church we're there if they need them, if they need them, because most times people are looking for a church home, they're looking for a place to fellowship and communicate and they don't really have one.

3:30

So we were letting the community in the neighborhood know that we're here in the neighborhood for them.

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And we also had a vacation Bible school and global journeys day, and we dealt with, you know, we talked to children about Africa and Japan and different countries, and we did that on July 19th.

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And you know, we're just doing different projects in the community and in the neighborhood to let the neighborhood and community know that we're there.

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And also we um just coming to the city council because we want them to know any projects or anything that we can get involved in to help either further this, you know, we would gladly appreciate it.

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So we thank you for your time.

4:15

Excellent.

4:15

Thank you, sir.

4:16

We appreciate that.

4:17

Appreciate that idea.

4:18

Look forward to talking.

4:19

Uh chair recognized the Vice Chairman Galloway.

4:21

Thank you.

4:21

Thank you so much, Mr.

4:22

Chair, and good afternoon, everyone.

4:24

I was just listening to uh PED uh about 30 minutes ago and one of my colleagues uh mentioned um not so long ago, maybe a year or so ago, there were four of us who met with the administration, um, i.e.

4:38

the mayor, regarding nonprofits and churches being able to get properties, um redevelop those properties, rehab those properties and um get land to build affordable housing.

4:50

I'm all in support of that.

4:52

Um want people to move into the city, but I want to also um reward if we can folks who stayed in the city.

5:03

Um it's good that we want to attract people to move into the city, but I think we should also use that same energy and um passion for those who have remained in the city, like myself and uh my family.

5:17

So um I definitely would want to um um make sure that we don't neglect or overlook those families who are already here and get nothing um but a lot of grief and no relief because we paid the highest property taxes in the nation, and not a lot of people want to move into the city to pay those high property taxes.

5:40

So I get the deep cuts, but the deep cuts need to start right now with those of us who've stuck and stayed in this city and didn't move out because of the property taxes, didn't move out because of the educational system, didn't move out because of poverty, didn't move out because of unemployment, didn't move out because of crime.

5:57

We stuck and stayed since the 50s and the 40s.

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We've been here.

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And so um any deep property tax cuts to be talked about, we're gonna start right with those families who are already here who stuck and stayed, and um put up with a less than stellar education system and education experience and struggle when they get in college, some of them, not all of them.

6:21

Um so I appreciate this, but I also want to make sure that we don't overlook those families who are here, and a lot of them are headed by single women.

6:29

Um, and so I definitely will support anything that includes those black women who are single mothers doing it every day.

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So I I could not support anything that does not include them.

6:40

If there's gonna be some property tax cuts, deep cuts is gonna be for them as well.

6:44

Thank you, madam chair, Mr.

6:46

Chair, and thank you, sir, for your No, thank you.

6:49

I appreciate I and I appreciate the work that you that you guys are doing.

6:53

I I I I just want to make it clear though, I think um a lot of this has to do with the drug war and the prison policy that has decimated the black community, and I think that's why 33% of the prison population is black, and a lot of that is because of we're talking about where the fathers, a lot of them are in prison.

7:16

But I want to be clear.

7:18

Um you talk about black fathers that are not married to their significant other, that's when you see the fatherlessness drop to 45%.

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But we talk about black fathers that either cohabitate or don't cohabitate, but are involved with their children, that number goes from 45% to 77%.

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So I want to say there are black fathers that are involved, there are black fathers that are with them.

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I'm not saying that's what anyone's saying here.

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I just want to make that clear for people who are listening.

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That's an ugly stereotype that we have to deal with a lot of times in the community.

7:52

So I want to just provide clarity to that.

7:54

But still, I think what you're doing is great.

7:57

And I definitely want to support that.

7:59

And I think you're right.

8:00

I know we have a tax addition, I think federally for marriage, and so I think locally would be good as well.

8:05

So I look forward to it.

8:06

I just wanted to clarify that.

8:08

All right.

8:08

Uh next up, and forgive me if I butcher your first name wrong.

8:11

I don't mean to.

8:12

Uh Jadante Smith.

8:15

Did I get that right?

8:20

I got that right.

8:22

Okay, I was pretty sure.

8:23

Two minutes, sir.

8:24

Uh good afternoon.

8:26

I was gonna say we're neighbors, Coleman.

8:27

Uh I I'm a fan of your work, uh, yeah, resolution, things like that.

8:32

I live on Helen, I live on Helen Street.

8:34

Right in Island View.

8:35

Church, I mean anyway, but I want to say uh I waited a month for a meeting with Mary Sheffield, and she did not show up to the meeting.

8:43

She sent her staff members, which is very, very disappointing to me because this is a meeting that I had set up, I had to wait a month for, and it was very important issues that are presented, and I brought a developer who owns a hundred lots in the city of Detroit, all across the city.

8:55

And I'm a community person.

8:56

I don't even, I'm more community than I am development, so I trust this person, brought this person along.

9:00

This person uh was also snubbed in that meeting.

9:03

I also want to say Scott Benson, uh, we have a meeting October 10th at uh 1030 at Paris Bar, right in District 3, right next to Cronos Concrete facility.

9:12

I wanted to invite you all to that meeting uh with your bosses if you like to come out and attend.

9:16

Also, 1918 Cardoni Street is uh a house that is fully vacant, owned by a young person or person named Brandon Bell, I'm not sure if you're old.

9:27

There is a notice on the door from uh the land bank that says that there's a seven-day notice date at September 17th, 2025.

9:33

Today is October the 2nd, 2025, and the house does not have any front door, no type of uh barricade.

9:40

I sent an email to three city council members' offices.

9:43

I understand everybody cannot reach out, but uh Scott Benson would very I'm a bit disappointed because it's in your district.

9:49

We've had a lot of communication uh amongst amongst me.

9:52

I've talked to Terry a lot, I sent the email to Terry and somebody else in your office, I think Carol, um, but I've got no response.

10:00

There's a school about 500 feet away from from uh this this residence from Cardoni, wide open, open to the studs.

10:04

There could be uh there could be dogs in there, it could be a kid snatched in to get raped.

10:09

There's a library about three blocks down, and it's in your district, right there on right off 7175.

10:14

And it seems like there's no cure given to this neighborhood.

10:16

If my kids live there, and I down the street is a as a man, he has two twin daughters that live down the street to go to the school, and this this house is wide open.

10:23

Whenever it's late at night and dark, anything can happen with this building.

10:26

I would like to see it boarded up today.

10:28

There's been weeks in BC, nor anybody else has done anything to this property.

10:33

Can we please get the boarded up?

10:35

All right, thank you, sir.

10:36

Uh, can you uh name the address of that property again?

10:40

19187 Cardoni.

10:42

I did speak to one of your staff members too.

10:43

She told me that you know you guys hadn't got a chance to get to it, which I understand.

10:46

This is your first time hearing about it, but uh 191 what 87 Cardoni.

10:52

Right off Seven Mile and Cardoni.

10:54

Okay.

10:57

Sure.

10:58

Um, this is the first time I'm hearing of this, looking through my emails.

11:00

I don't see any any type of correspondence from you, although we'll we'll look again.

11:05

Um, more than happy to work on this.

11:07

We have unfortunately many uh homes that are opened and get closed and then reopened again.

11:14

And so I'm glad that you're taking issue with this one.

11:17

I'm hoping that she'll take issue with the thousands of open properties throughout the city of Detroit that we as city council members routinely work on, and at this table we budgeted to ensure that we can board up these type of properties.

11:30

But thank you for bringing it to our attention today.

11:33

Uh, no problem.

11:34

And also, I'm gonna find every single one in district three, and I'm gonna make sure it comes to your attention.

11:38

I'm gonna look all around the city, but especially in your district, because I feel like you probably have the most, even outside of district four, which is very underserved.

11:45

And also you ignored my invitation to October 10th at Paris Bar, uh conversation with Detroit Ham Tramut Coalition.

11:52

All right, thank you, sir.

11:54

And uh member Benz, I definitely look forward to partnering with you if I can.

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If I can help you in any way, please let me know.

12:04

Absolutely.

12:05

Absolutely.

12:06

And we appreciate you dearly.

12:08

Um that is all the questions.

12:10

I think that's all the comments we have for uh in person, public comedy.

12:14

How many uh calls we have virtually, Mr.

12:17

Bo in the queue?

12:19

Mr.

12:19

Chair, we currently have seven individuals with their hand raised for public comment.

12:23

Seven, all right.

12:24

Um public comment is now closed.

12:26

Public comment is now closed.

12:28

Public comment is now closed.

12:32

All right, who do we have first in the queue, Mr.

12:34

Bo?

12:36

The first caller is William M.

12:37

Davis.

12:38

All right, Ms.

12:38

Davis, floor is yours, two minutes.

12:41

Uh good afternoon.

12:43

Glad to be here.

12:44

Go ahead.

12:44

Two minutes.

12:45

Okay, I like to also say not only do we have the highest property tax in the city as a city chart retire.

12:52

I feel it, and uh and we continue to suffer, but we also city chart residents have to pay the highest drainage fees, you know, which we shouldn't have to pay such a high fee, especially if our neighbors pay less, especially if we own the system.

13:07

Something is wrong.

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I think that's part of executive decisions at the top of not aggressively trying to equalize what we should and should not be paying.

13:17

Also, during the last 12 years, a number of businesses have gone out of business in the city.

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A number of churches have been pushed out of the business because of the excessive drainage fee.

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Many people call it a rain tax.

13:32

You know, the city can and should do a whole lot better.

13:36

It should be a greater effort to retain the residents that we have here.

13:40

Far too often, it seems like most of the stuff I hear that city council talk about the stuff to entice and give discounts to new people come in, especially if they lighter than you, Coleman.

13:51

You know, so I think we need to make sure, and don't get me wrong, I want new people to come in.

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But I think far too often the city starts to forget about its legacy uh residents.

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I know it's forgotten about its legacy retirees.

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So hopefully you can encourage the city to do more and be more responsive.

14:08

Also, speaking to the general public at large, I think it is very important that Detroit increases voter numbers.

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You know, far too often the city of Detroit voting numbers have been going down.

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The percentage of people voting have been going down for 12 years.

14:25

You know, I've I've been around the city longer than all of y'all.

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And I remember the city chart is determined who is going to be the governor, who's going to be the next U.S.

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Senator.

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The city chart can influence again, even though we don't have the population where you said, but we just need more people to vote.

14:41

Have a good day.

14:42

Mr.

14:43

Chair.

14:48

Thank you, Mr.

14:48

Chair.

14:49

Um to Mr.

14:50

Davis' um point on the population in Detroit has been declining uh for the last, I believe the last decade and a half.

15:00

If you look at the um, even though we challenged it, the population is still on the decline.

15:02

Um, even though some property rates are going up, um, our population is still on the decline.

15:09

Um, my question to you to whoever through the chair to whoever can answer this question is the city the only city that charges the drainage fee.

15:17

Um, are the churches in our city, the only churches um being charged as drainage fee?

15:24

Do we know that?

15:26

Oh, sorry, I just want to make it clarify to the state or in country.

15:30

Um, just here in uh the tri-county area.

15:33

Because we we all get our water from the same source, right?

15:36

Yeah, just reach as far as regional.

15:37

Yeah, so just uh I guess it would just be regionally just here um or countywide, uh, the tri-county area.

15:45

Because who's who's charging the drainage fee in that our water department in that um GS um the um Greater Lakes, Great Lakes Water Department or Water Authority?

15:55

Listen, we had someone.

15:57

Who's doing that?

15:57

Is it the city or um Great Lakes Authority?

16:02

Oh, sorry.

16:03

I'm done.

16:04

We have someone in the line to answer their question.

16:10

I have something I wanted to say.

16:12

I I thought this is we had some change in population.

16:17

I know the last two cities is we lost population.

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I mean last week we lost what like 25% of our population if I'm not mistaken.

16:25

Um that's probably the one before, but I know we lost populations for the last two.

16:30

Right.

16:30

And then I thought for this, because you were right, they at first we lost again, then we challenged it.

16:34

Yeah, they showed a little bit of growth.

16:36

It wasn't a whole lot, but it was a little bit of growth.

16:37

A little bump.

16:38

Yeah, a little bump.

16:40

And I just want to say to Mr.

16:41

Davis, uh that that color is a uh remark aside.

16:44

I didn't appreciate that.

16:45

Uh uh uh other than that, sir.

16:48

Um, I just want to say for uh drainage fees issues, you can uh go to easy pay, they will be able to put you on a payment plan.

16:55

I would suggest you go to the easy pay plan.

16:57

Anybody that's struggling with the drains issues, if you go to easy pay, they put you on a payment program where you can pay an installments.

17:03

Uh, Mr.

17:04

Washington, do we have anybody online that can answer Vice Chairwoman Callaway's questions about the drain fees?

17:17

We do not have a DW DWSD rep online at this time, but if you give me a moment, I could possibly see if someone can join by the end of public comments.

17:25

I was just getting ready to ask you, wait to end the public comedy, somebody can join.

17:28

Okay.

17:28

I appreciate that.

17:30

No, no problem.

17:31

Who do we have next to the queue?

17:34

Mr.

17:35

Bo.

17:36

The Make caller.

17:37

And 169.

17:39

169, floor is yours.

17:41

Two minutes.

17:44

Hello, can you guys hear me?

17:46

Yes, sir.

17:49

Great, great.

17:50

Um, prayer.

17:51

Does prayer still work?

17:53

Yes, does prayer still work?

17:55

Thank you for keeping Cunningham uplifted in prayer.

17:58

Brother Cunningham's mom, Cheryl Marie Lyons, disabled registered nurse with MS.

18:04

Her legs don't work.

18:05

She had a fall.

18:06

Yes, she had a fall with no broken bones.

18:09

I seen that on his Facebook page.

18:11

And most of all, D dot needs to get better.

18:15

6D dot fixed D dot fixed D dot.

18:18

Thank you for my time.

18:21

No problem.

18:22

Thank you, sir.

18:22

Who do you have next to the queue, Mr.

18:24

Bo?

18:26

The next caller is Tyson Gersh.

18:29

All right, Mr.

18:30

Gersh, floor is yours.

18:32

Two minutes.

18:34

Hi, thanks.

18:35

Can you hear me?

18:36

Yes, sir.

18:37

Great.

18:38

Um I got so many things to say, but I think in this moment, I'm just wondering how come the city stopped maintaining the open checkbook Detroit site.

18:53

It was so good.

18:55

You could just, you know, look at every dollar every city agency spent, like just from your own computer.

19:03

Um, it's like a really remarkable piece of technology, like the platform just provided absolute government transparency.

19:13

And it I mean, it's like really an incredible thing.

19:17

Um, and for some reason the city just stopped updating it back in I think like early 2021.

19:25

Why did we stop doing that?

19:27

Um, you know, I can see that the Board of Zoning Appeals spent like a hundred thousand dollars on transcripts over a three-year period.

19:35

I can see each purchase of each transcript from Regency Court Reporting.

19:41

Um, it's all just public data.

19:43

And why did we stop doing that?

19:46

Um, I know the contracting and procurement now publicly lists in a much more abstract and hidden way.

20:05

Um between light.

20:06

I think it's just fiscal year 25.

20:09

Um, and then that abruptly stops, and there's nothing preceding that.

20:13

And it's there's this like weird gap where you can't speak to anything related to BZA transcripts and BZA costs between 2023 and 2025.

20:26

Um why did we stop updating the open data platform?

20:31

Um it would just solve all of these problems as you know.

20:36

It was a good all right.

20:39

Thank you so much for that.

20:40

Who do we understand the queue, Mr.

20:42

Bo?

20:44

Mr.

20:45

Chair, the next caller is iPhone.

20:49

All right, iPhone, you have two minutes, floor is yours.

20:54

Good afternoon to all within the sound of my voice.

20:57

I'm Betty A.

20:58

Barner, resident of the city of Detroit, born and raised.

21:02

I've been uh in my community for over 50 something years.

21:07

So I am a legacy resident.

21:10

I have been asking for someone publicly from the water department, or uh it was said someone was gonna give me a call in regards to a letter I received in September in regards to my lifeline benefits being stopped as of September 30th.

21:34

There was no reason why, and there was an advocate when I spoke the first time at the formal uh meeting.

21:40

I think the council formal meeting on the 23rd, he gave an explanation.

21:45

But I want to hear something from the city, and I had questions.

21:50

Is there a program to assist uh the residents, the seniors, people who are disabled who have kept their water bill current to continue to help them keep it current?

22:03

I know about the easy plan, but you have to have a balance, an overdue bill for that.

22:09

Is there going to be something to help us continue to pay the drainage fees that y'all are discussing and to pay our water bills so we can stay in our homes, have water, and be in peace.

22:22

And uh I would love for someone to please answer the questions.

22:27

And I've talked to um some people, they did not receive the letter.

22:32

So is the that is everybody's uh lifeline benefits?

22:36

Have they stopped, or is it just some people?

22:39

And if it's just some people, how did you select who was going to be on the program and not?

22:45

Please uh give some type of explanation.

22:49

The city or whoever sent out that letter, don't just send out a letter saying uh benefits are gonna stop and give no explanation.

22:57

Thank you for this time.

22:59

Thank you.

22:59

I appreciate that.

23:01

Uh who next in the queue, Mr.

23:03

Bo.

23:05

Mr.

23:05

Chair, the next caller ends in one, two, four.

23:08

All right, one two four, floor is yours.

23:13

Two minutes.

23:30

Can you hear me now?

23:32

Yep.

23:32

Hello?

23:33

Go ahead.

23:35

Okay, thank you.

23:37

Well, member Callaway, thank you very much.

23:39

That that's how I feel about a lot of the city.

23:41

A lot of grief and no relief coming from uh Mary Sheffield's office and uh lackluster services I get from her staff.

23:53

And uh frankly, uh member Benson, if today you ignoring that gentleman about the concrete crusher, it just shows what a fraudulent thing this solar scam is.

24:04

And Jadante Smith, if you're still there, please go to Detroit Solar Scream come and reach out.

24:12

Also, just like the judge that's uh on these solar scam cases, uh, or no, these attorneys that you spent five million dollars on from Galsmer are filing inaccurate orders, incomplete order saying, uh for the reasons stated on the record, you know, we're taking your property basically without explanation.

24:33

But yet you get but you provided no counsel for the solar taking victims, but counsel for this, council for that, and you don't really give a CRAP in my opinion about people's health, or hey Ms.

24:46

Anderson, you know what the Java Corporation Council is?

24:49

It's to uphold the charter, not violate it.

24:51

And that's what this solar scam is doing and a lot of other things, but the concrete crushing, you ignore the guy, the fumes coming from the salantis plant.

25:08

Like the flooding in people's basements.

25:11

It's not, oh my God, we need to take people's private property for solar farms because we're too lazy to put up do a plan, put it on our own building so we could actually maybe have power when the grid goes out.

25:22

Like really, folks, it's a lot of grief with no relief, and that's why a lot of people move out as well, or contemplated moving out because we're so poorly served by government, but you may be cheated in, or many of you.

25:35

And when the all right, thank you so much for that.

25:38

Who you're next in the queue, Mr.

25:39

Bell.

25:42

The next call is Cunningham.

25:44

All right, Mr.

25:45

Cunningham, floor is yours.

25:46

Two minutes.

26:17

Click people, and you'll see my mom reading the Bible.

26:22

Um, thank you.

26:23

I I just mentioned that I went to go see my mom again.

26:26

She's okay, she was a little bruised, no broken bones.

26:29

She fell down.

26:31

And there was an outpour of love on Facebook and a lot of calls to my 313 444 914 and text messages.

26:43

She's okay.

26:44

She's in she never complains.

26:45

She's a little bruised, a little shaken, but I know the the fervent effectual prayers of the righteous available much.

26:54

And that does not mean perfect people because I'm nowhere near that.

26:57

But I want to thank you for your prayers and concern.

27:02

Um, she's more popular than I, that's for sure.

27:06

There's always how your mama, what's going on with your mama?

27:09

That's what I get the majority of the time.

27:11

And she is okay.

27:13

Um so I thank you for that.

27:18

Detroit Department of Transportation is still luster.

27:21

I'm still doing the bus ride alongside.

27:23

I have an elected official, elected official at 11 a.m.

27:27

on Saturday.

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We'll be doing a bus ride along.

27:30

If you would like to join that bus ride along, give me a call at 313 4449114.

27:37

That is also my cash app.

27:40

I take time off to do these things to get people out of their bubble.

27:45

So many people are Sadini and Uppity, and they live in a bubble.

27:50

Um, they don't touch folks like I touch every day with the bus tickets and etc.

27:56

Thank you, everyone under the sound of my voice.

27:59

Upper echelon and regular folks like thank you, sir.

28:04

Appreciate that.

28:05

We are next to the queue, Mr.

28:06

Bell.

28:08

The next caller ends in 482.

28:11

All right, 482, floor is yours.

28:13

Go ahead, 482.

28:20

What's up, Coleman?

28:22

Recognize the voice, you know the name.

28:25

So I ain't even got to say I'll miss the roof.

28:28

Now to your right, yeah, exactly calloway, district one representative.

28:34

Well, yes.

28:39

Extensive, extensive reputation over in District One and two.

28:47

That's Angela Calloway's district.

28:49

District two.

28:50

Yeah, that's my stomach ground, Angela.

28:52

And what you gonna find out now is that I am exactly who I say I am.

28:58

Now I gotta turn the whole city upside down because they've been cheating elections and covering up murders, covering up Kenesa Coleman, GPD case 20-11112.

29:11

I'm not lying.

29:12

Stand up 100.

29:14

Kevin Samuel as well, and Isaiah White.

29:18

Isaiah did not shoot yourself in the back of the head with no shotgun with no 18-inch barrel and get found, stomped over a couch with a blunt in his right hand.

29:28

Now, my word is fine.

29:31

I live on my word and my reputation.

29:35

Been doing it for over four decades here in Detroit.

29:38

Now, y'all getting ready to see just who I really am.

29:42

For real, for real, because I'm over in district four now.

29:46

Yeah, that's one, two, and three, Scott.

29:51

Yo district.

29:52

Yeah.

29:53

Now I'm in district four.

29:55

I'm gonna ready to go all the way down the line through all seven of them, and y'all about to find out just how I'm built is just how cut for real.

30:01

This house built is just all cut.

30:03

For real.

30:04

Now just it was cheated in school board keep it in, board of police commissioners keep it in, and the mayor, and some judges.

30:14

And that's my word.

30:17

John Kennedy was the first confirmed case of IT ballot fraud here in Detroit.

30:25

Mr.

30:25

Chair.

30:26

All right, thank you so much for that.

30:28

Appreciate that.

30:28

Uh Chair recognized Vice Chairman Galloway.

30:30

Yeah, we are all in District 2 still waiting to see his dopness, Mr.

30:34

Crowley's dopeness in our district.

30:36

Still waiting.

30:36

Been waiting since 2022.

30:38

Thank you.

30:39

The what now?

30:42

Would you like for me to repeat it, Mr.

30:43

Chair?

30:44

What was it?

30:45

I said my residents and I in District 2 are still waiting to see that dopeness that Mr.

30:51

Crowley has been alluding to and mentioning since 2022.

30:57

We are all awaiting.

30:58

Thank you, Mr.

30:59

Chair.

31:00

Okay.

31:02

Not even going there.

31:03

All right.

31:04

Who do we have next to the queue, Mr.

31:06

Bo?

31:08

That was the last caller before you close public comment.

31:11

All right.

31:13

We will now move to unfinished business.

31:17

Through the chair.

31:19

Oh, yes, that's right.

31:20

That's right.

31:21

We had the questions.

31:21

Uh Mr.

31:22

Watch, you know, uh, I I got thrown off by the dope this kind.

31:26

Go ahead.

31:27

Yes, through the chair, we do have Sonali Patel who's joined from DWSD.

31:31

She can be promoted.

31:32

Go ahead.

31:40

No.

31:48

Good afternoon, Mr.

31:49

Chair.

31:49

This is Sonali Patel with the Detroit Water and Sewage Department.

31:53

May I be here?

31:54

Good to see you, Ms.

31:55

Patel.

31:56

Yes.

31:56

Um, Mary Galloway, you want to repeat your question?

31:58

Yes.

31:58

Um, thank you so much, Mr.

32:00

Chair, and thank you, madam, for being on with us this afternoon.

32:02

Just a real quick question.

32:03

We always getting, we're always getting um residents to call in and churches, um, their pastors calling in regarding the drainage fee.

32:13

Is Detroit residents and um nonprofits that own churches, are they the only ones charged this drainage fee?

32:22

Through the chair.

32:23

Um, thank you, Councilmember Callaway for that great question.

32:27

Um, all of our residents in the city, every parcel in the city is charged the drainage fee, whether it is faith-based, residential, commercial, nonprofit, every property receives a drainage charge, and that drainage charge is based on the amount of impervious surface on the parcel, um, which is just a fancy way of saying the amount of hard surface on the parcel.

32:53

So every property is calculated the same way in the city of Detroit.

32:58

Okay.

32:58

Um, through the chair, um, I'm just trying to understand.

33:02

So you only provide these your only customer is Detroit.

33:10

Through the chair, yes.

33:12

For the Detroit Water and Sewerage Department, we are billing the resident the our customers who are the property owners in the city of Detroit.

33:22

Um, the other municipalities that are served under the Great Lakes Water Authority, under GLWA, as other member communities, they build their uh residents or property owners directly, the way we do for Detroit property owners.

33:38

So the larger your parking lot, the larger your drainage bill.

33:46

Yeah, so if um, for example, if there is a one-acre, let's say there are two one-acre parcels right next to each other, and the first one-acre parcel has 50% hard surface, and the one next to it has 25% hard surface.

34:05

The one with 50% would have a larger drainage charge on their monthly bill because they are being charged for that uh 50% hard surface on the parcel.

34:16

The one with 25% hard surface would be charged according to that 25%.

34:23

Okay, through the chair to yourself, and thank you so much.

34:26

I'm just trying to understand it because we're getting these.

34:28

We've been getting them, and I just never ask any questions um pertaining to the questions that we get from um our pastors and our residents.

34:39

Is this drainage fee comparable in terms of amounts to what other municipalities are charging their customers?

34:48

Do we have any um data that can show us what other municipalities are charging their customers and nonprofits and churches?

35:02

Is that data through the chairs?

35:04

That data available through the chair, yes, absolutely.

35:09

Um other municipalities in Southeast Michigan through the state and the country do have um drainage charges, whether they title it that way or something else, such as an impervious surface fee or drainage fee.

35:23

Um they do charge, and we do have a chart typically every year or two.

35:28

We check what other um neighboring communities are charging so that we can show that we are um in line with other communities.

35:38

Um we are sometimes lower than some of the suburban communities around us when it comes to the drainage charge.

35:45

So we can get that um submitted as a memo to the committee for review.

35:49

Yeah, thank you.

35:50

If you can get that to us, I appreciate it.

35:52

Um lastly, through the chair to yourself, ma'am.

35:55

Can we do away with the drainage fee through the chair?

36:00

Um so the drainage fee to give a little bit of background, the the drainage charge um is used because we have a combined sewer system here in the city of Detroit.

36:12

So on a rainy day, we have the wastewater that leaves all of our properties and makes its way to southwest Detroit where the wastewater treatment plant is, and then on a rainy day, that additional rainwater is also entering our combined system.

36:28

And so the drainage charge is used to support our stormwater management um uh responsibility that we have at DWSD.

36:39

So, along with delivering clean drinking water to every property and uh uh conveying wastewater from every property in the city, we also need to manage stormwater when we get these large rain events.

36:52

And so um some examples of where these these dollars go are to um you know ensure that our combined sewer system is flowing properly, but also implement more stormwater management practices such as green stormwater infrastructure, um, and also towards reducing the amount of combined sewer overflows that are sometimes released to the Detroit River and the Ridge River when we get a large storm of that.

37:18

So, really these funds help to ensure that our our local riverways are kept as clean as possible, and really with that flood mitigation element, which is to help reduce basement backups, reduce street flooding.

37:31

Um the drainage charges it's crucial and it's very impactful to the work we're doing to reduce flooding in the city.

37:40

Um, through the chair to yourself, what were we doing before we started charging a drain drainage fee?

37:45

The city, I mean what were we doing before?

37:50

Through the chair, um the drainage fee um is now a separate item on the water and sewerage bills that we put out monthly.

37:59

Previous, it was incorporated in the sewer rate.

38:03

Um so having the drainage fee now separated allows us to charge each property based on their hard surface, um, versus before it was just incorporated as a uh a fee to everyone's sewer charges.

38:18

Okay, thank you.

38:19

Um through the chair, and this is my last question.

38:22

Our um churches are struggling with that fee, and it seems so unfair um to the churches, nonprofits that we're charging that drainage fee the way that we are.

38:35

Um, and a lot of residents are struggling.

38:38

And um, you know, we can argue or uh disagree about the population decline or decrease or increase, but this is one of the factors that lead to the decrease in population um with the drainage fee, the poverty, the unemployment, um high property taxes, right?

39:05

So uh I'd like to see that data um that you um said you would get to us.

39:10

If you could send it to all nine of us, that would be great.

39:13

I just want to see um what other municipalities are charging their customers because I hear it every single day from pastors uh just recently, um, one on Seven Mile, nice size church.

39:30

I have their two two large churches on Seven Mile within a mile of each other, and they you know we gotta help them.

39:39

We don't want them leaving, um, not being able to um take care of their congregation, that's why they're there.

39:46

Can't feed the poor, clothe the the naked if they're paying a drainage fee, if that's taking up all their resources, so I'm I'm hoping that we can help um in that regard so we can continue to um feed the hungry and clothe the naked, that's what they're in the business to do and not be paying all these high drainage fees because they've been blessed with some property.

40:00

That's what they're in the business to do and not be paying all these high drainage fees because they've been blessed with some property.

40:05

Thank you.

40:05

Thank you, Mr.

40:06

Chair.

40:06

Thank you, ma'am.

40:07

Thank you.

40:08

Um, yeah, remember Benson, did you have questions?

40:12

Yeah, I I have a couple questions.

40:14

Thank you so much for being with with us today.

40:16

I just wanted to ask you one, um, what you know, kind of piggyback or kind of of uh Member Callaway's question.

40:22

Where does the easy pay program fall into place here?

40:26

Is this the program that's available to everyone?

40:29

And then secondly, I had a question, uh, Ms.

40:31

Varner just called in and asked about the lifeline program.

40:34

The lifeline program is that there have been uh letters, there's been communications that's gone out that it's canceled.

40:41

I just want to know is that true?

40:43

And is it true for certain individuals, or is it true for the entire city?

40:47

Just playing that process as well.

40:51

Thank you, Mr.

40:52

Chair.

40:52

Um with the easy pay program, um, to council member Callaway's uh previous question, the easy pay uh payment plan arrangement is available to all of our um all of our DWSD customers.

41:09

So whether you have a water and sewerage bill for a residential property, or you are a faith-based uh organization or a commercial organization, and you have your water and sewage bill, and then maybe you also have a large drainage bill because you have a large property.

41:25

Um easy pay plan is available to every single um DWSD account.

41:32

And so no matter what the balance is, whether it's a couple hundred dollars or you know, upwards of thousands, um, the account holder can call, they can put ten dollars down and spread the rest of the balance across the next 36 months.

41:47

So they have three years to catch up on that balance.

41:50

Of course, the uh regular monthly bill that is generated does also need to get paid with that installment.

41:56

Um, but it is open to again any uh any resident that has a DWSD account.

42:04

So that's our easy pay plan.

42:06

Um we do have a lot of faith-based organizations and commercial businesses that have enrolled if they have fallen behind on their their drainage account, um, general and easy pay as well, and it's been helpful.

42:19

Um, with the lifeline plan, the lifeline plan is our affordability program that we launched uh about three years ago now.

42:28

Um, when we kicked off the lifeline plan, we are very grateful to have quite a bit in state of federal funding to really kick off that program.

42:37

We we uh leveraged federal dollars, uh tens of millions of federal dollars that came through the state.

42:45

Um, and that was a three-tiered program based on income eligibility.

42:50

Uh since three years ago when we launched the program, um, as we all know, we're not seeing those federal and state funds coming down the way they were during COVID and post-COVID.

43:01

And so uh we are currently restructuring the lifeline plan.

43:05

We are not canceling the plan, um, but the amount of enrollees that it can support um will be reduced based on the the funding that becomes available to us.

43:17

Um so we do leverage what we call uh wrap dollars that is funding that we receive through the Great Lakes Water Authority.

43:27

Um so we will use those funds to enroll as many as many residents as we can in lifeline moving forward.

43:34

And so, similar to how other utilities have a cap on their application process when they when they maximize the amount of dollars they have in that given fiscal year, they have to shut applications until additional funding comes around.

43:48

That's how we'll be maneuvering and operating from here on out.

43:51

So it's a first come, first serve process is what you're telling me in terms of the application cabinet.

43:56

It's also because you're not getting rid of it, you're just shrinking the program based on the money that you have available, right?

44:01

Exactly.

44:02

And you said earlier about the um the easy pay 10, you were referring to the water bill that has to be paid, not the drainage fees, right?

44:11

So the drainage fees be reduced to $10, but you still have to pay the water bill.

44:15

Is that what you're telling me?

44:17

Um, Mr.

44:18

Chair, um, with the easy pay plan, um, it is for both is for water sewer and drainage.

44:24

So for most of our customers, they receive one bill, and all three are on that bill, water sewerage and drainage.

44:33

And so if you have a $500 past you balance and you need a set assistance on, you pay $10, the $490 is spread across the next 36 months.

44:44

And then every month you'll get your water sewage drainage bill, and you need to keep up with that as well.

44:50

Oh okay, so so so your water and your so I'll do I was just trying to understand what you're saying.

44:56

So you're saying that for the drainage fee, it'll be spread out over 36 months, right?

45:04

Mr.

45:05

Chair, the full bill will be spread out.

45:07

The full bill will be spread out, right?

45:08

So the drainage fee is so the drainage fee is included in the full water bill.

45:18

How we typically refer to you get your monthly water bill.

45:21

That is water sewerage and drainage all included in okay.

45:24

So I'm saving by not having to pay the full amount of the drainage, right?

45:30

Because instead of paying what I was paying, I'll just pay it ten dollars over 36 months.

45:34

I'm still paying the rest of the bill.

45:36

It's just the drainage part.

45:37

I'm now paying $10, right?

45:40

Mr.

45:41

Chair, no, the there is no savings on the drainage fee with easy pay plan.

45:46

So easy pay plan is to address any past due balance, whether it is related to the drainage charge or not.

45:53

So the easy pay plan is not um was not built specific for drainage.

45:59

So again, you know, about my monthly bill is about $50 a month.

46:04

That's water sewage and drainage.

46:06

I get behind for 10 months.

46:08

I have a $500 balance.

46:10

They signing up for easy pay means I'm addressing that full balance for water sewage and drainage.

46:16

So it's not custom to discount the drainage charge.

46:19

I'm just getting assistance on my account.

46:23

Yep, whether that's $500 or $5,000.

46:26

So that's so that's the full bill, right?

46:29

So instead of paying the full bill that I normally pay, I'll pay in that bill over 10 months over over 36 months, right?

46:38

$10 over 36 months.

46:42

Or am I paying?

46:43

I I just want to understand like where the like the relief is supposed to come in.

46:47

Because if I'm paying what I'm paying and and I'm paying the easy pay, like I thought like that was supposed to like reduce or consolidate restructure your paying, so where you're paying less, but you're still still putting something in over time and you're making up that deficit.

47:10

Yes, Mr.

47:10

Church.

47:11

Am I getting it right?

47:13

I think that a little of the confusion is our easy pay plan or is our payment arrangement plan.

47:19

Okay.

47:19

So that is meant to take how much you owed previously, your balance, and what you are continuing to pay and restructuring it.

47:27

Versus a lifeline plan is our affordability program.

47:30

So that's where you see a decrease in what you owe.

47:33

Lifeline is affordability plan to lower the monthly bill for residents that income qualified.

47:40

Okay.

47:41

Easy pay is saying if you have a balance and you can't pay it all right now, of course you want to avoid shutoff.

47:48

Then we can spread it out over the next couple of years for you to catch up.

47:52

But your value owe does not decrease with easy pay, just get spread.

47:56

So lifeline is for the affordability aspect, easy pay is for the debt restructuring.

48:01

Yes, exactly, Mr.

48:03

Okay.

48:03

Okay, okay.

48:04

I got it now.

48:05

Okay, all right.

48:06

All right.

48:07

Uh that is all the questions that I have.

48:10

Does anybody else have any further questions, comments, or concerns?

48:13

All right, well, thank you so much.

48:14

I appreciate that.

48:16

All good to see you.

48:17

Thank you so much for your time.

48:20

All right, we will now move on to unfinished business line of 5.10.

48:29

Submitted memorandum regarding special events process and enforcement.

48:34

My office has been in communication with council member Romero's office, and they are okay to receive and file line item 5.1.

48:41

Is there a motion to receive and file line of 5.1?

48:46

Motion made or any objections.

48:49

Here and line of 5.1 will be received and filed.

48:52

We have moved on to new business.

48:54

Line 06.1, the mayor's office, line of 6.1, petition of Renaissance High School, Detroit Public School Community District.

49:02

Request to hold Renaissance High School Homecoming Parade, October 10, 2025 from 12 p.m.

49:08

to 2 p.m.

49:09

on the same day at 6565 West Out of Drive High School campus and surrounding streets.

49:15

So that will begin at 10 a.m.

49:16

on October 10th, 2025 and be completed by 11 a.m.

49:20

on the same day, tear down again on 2 p.m.

49:22

on October 10th and clear by 3 p.m.

49:25

on the same day.

49:25

Is there a motion to move line of 6.1 to formal session with regulation for approval?

49:30

You put off to do business.

49:34

Here done line 6.1, we move to formal session with regulation for approval, we put on the new business.

49:40

Lion 6.2 petition to Wayne State University Research Technology Park in the city of Detroit.

49:46

Request the whole tech tail Detroit Toast of the Town 2025 fundraiser on October 10th, 2025 for 5 p.m.

49:54

till 9 p.m.

49:54

on the same day at 440 boroughs, Troy, Michigan, 48202.

50:01

Set up will begin at 6 a.m.

50:03

on October 10th, 2025, be completed by 4 p.m.

50:06

on 4 p.m.

50:10

on the same day.

50:11

Tear down beginning at 7 a.m.

50:13

on October 11th, 2025, be completed by 2 p.m.

50:16

on the same day.

50:17

Is there a motion to move line item 6.2 to formal session?

50:21

With recognition for approval, be put on to new business.

50:26

Motion made are there any objections?

50:29

Hearing on line of 6.2, we move to formal session with recognition for approval, we put onto new business.

50:34

Lion 6.3.

50:35

Petition is Detroit City Sporting Coalition.

50:38

Request to hold 2025 Lee Run for Lee Le Run for Le Rouche Charity 5K on October 12, 2025 from 10 a.m.

50:50

12 p.m.

50:50

on the same day at 3401 Lafayette Street.

50:57

Setup will begin at 8 a.m.

50:59

on October 12, 2025, and be completed by 10 a.m.

51:02

the same day.

51:05

Tear down will begin at 11 a.m.

51:09

on October 12th, 2025, and be completed by 12 p.m.

51:14

the same day.

51:15

Is there a motion to move line on 6.3 to formal session with recognition for approval be put on to do business?

51:22

Motion made our objections.

51:24

Hearing done line on 6.3, we move to formal session with recognition for approval.

51:28

We put onto new business.4.

51:32

Petition IBEW Local 58 to request the whole Veterans Day celebration on November 9th.

51:40

From 9 a.m.

51:41

until 5 p.m.

51:42

on the same day in Courttown neighborhood.

51:45

Setup will begin on 3 p.m.

51:47

on November 7th, 2025, be completed by 7 a.m.

51:50

November 8, 2025.

51:52

Tear down will begin at 5 p.m.

51:56

On November 9th, 2025, we completed by 8 p.m.

51:59

on the same day.

52:00

Is there a motion to move line 6.4 to formal session with recognition for approval?

52:04

We put on to new business.

52:07

Motion made already objections.

52:09

Hearing none, line of 6.4, we move to formal session with recognition for approval, we put on to do business.

52:13

Lion 6.5.

52:15

Petition to Bedrock to request to hold decked out Detroit Winner Streetscapes and Activations.

52:23

From October 8th, 2025 to January 5th, 2026 at 5 p.m.

52:29

at Parker's Alley, Moreau and Randolph, Library and Grafton, 1 Campus, Marshall, Patio, Woodward and John R.

52:42

Setup will begin on October 8th at 8 a.m.

52:45

and be completed by 12 p.m.

52:46

the same day.

52:47

Tear down will begin on January 6th, 2026 at 8 a.m.

52:52

and will be completed by 5 p.m.

52:54

on January 31st, 2026.

52:56

Is there a motion to say line on 6.5 to formal session with recognition for approval?

53:01

We put on to do business.

53:03

Motion made our objections.

53:05

Here and then line on 6.5 we move to formal session with recognition for approval.

53:10

We put on to do business.

53:16

So the chair I'll make sure that is updated for a formal session.

53:20

Yes, appreciate that.

53:21

You're welcome.

53:23

Line of 6.6.

53:26

Petition Detroit Rear Front Conservancy request the whole Ralph C.

53:30

Wilson Park.

53:35

October 24th, 4 p.m.

53:37

to October 26th, 2025 at 8 p.m.

53:41

at Ralph C.

53:42

Wilson Park.

53:44

Set up will begin October 22nd, 2025 at 8 a.m.

53:47

complete by 12 p.m.

53:48

October 24th, 2025.

53:49

Tear down beginning October 26th, 8 p.m.

53:52

We complete by 6 p.m.

53:53

October 27th, 2025.

53:56

Is there a motion to move line on 6.6 to formal session with recognition for approval be put onto new business?

54:05

Are there any objections?

54:08

Hearing done line on 6.6, we move to formal session with recognition for approval.

54:12

We put onto new business.

54:14

Petition of Southwest Detroit Business Association.

54:19

Request to hold run of the dead on November 1st, 2025, from 8 a.m.

54:25

until 12 p.m.

54:26

on the same day in the Patent Recreation Center.

54:30

Senate will begin at 5 a.m.

54:31

on October 31st, 2025, be completed by 7 a.m.

54:34

November 1st, 2025.

54:36

Tear down begin at 12 p.m.

54:38

November 1st, 2025, and be completed by 4 p.m.

54:42

on the same day.

54:44

Is there a motion to move line on 6.7 to formal session with recognition for approval?

54:48

We put on to new business.

54:49

Motion made already objections.

54:52

Hearing done line of 6.7, we move to formal session with recognition for approval.

54:56

You put on to do business.

55:00

Contract number.

55:02

673 85.

55:05

100% city funded to provide service, labor, and slash or parts for light duty transmission and component repairs.

55:13

Contractor Ferndale F LLC DBA suburban Ford of Ferndale, located 21600 Woodward Avenue, Fernale, Michigan Ford 2, the 48 220.

55:30

Two years.

55:30

Total contract about 100,000.

55:33

Is there a motion to move live on 6.8 forward session with recognition for approval and put on to do business?

55:40

Motion to discuss, Mr.

55:41

Chair.

55:41

Motion discussed.

55:42

Chair recognizes Vice Chairman McCalloway.

55:44

Thank you so much, Mr.

55:45

Chair.

55:45

Is there anyone on from general services or or both contracts and procurement?

55:54

Mr.

55:54

Washington, I think we have either Mr.

55:56

Weather up or Miss Franklin.

55:59

Yes, through the chair, that's correct.

56:02

All right.

56:03

Soon is there promoted.

56:07

You will hear.

56:10

They will be there to answer your questions.

56:24

Mr.

56:25

Weatherer, good to see you, sir.

56:28

Good afternoon, Alex Weatherup, Assistant Director of General Services.

56:31

Good to see you too.

56:32

Yes, sir.

56:32

Okay.

56:35

Excuse me, uh, Vice Chair Callaway.

56:37

Did you want to maybe someone else from Contracts and Procurement as well, so they can hear my questions and concerns?

56:42

I think that's Ms.

56:43

Franklin.

56:46

Is she available?

56:48

Uh Mr.

56:49

Washington.

56:51

Not that we don't like seeing Mr.

56:53

Weather up.

56:54

Yeah.

56:57

You don't need a chat.

56:59

There you are.

57:00

There she is.

57:04

Hello, this is Harry Ashley Franklin from Contract and Procurement.

57:09

Thank you.

57:09

Thank you, Mr.

57:10

Chair.

57:10

Thank you, Miss Franklin, for being here in Mr.

57:12

Weather up.

57:13

Have a question, a couple of questions about this particular contract.

57:17

I was looking at the teeth's report, and um Suburban Ford was not the lowest bidder.

57:22

Um Carrie Brothers, who've been in Detroit for 40 years, um was the lowest bidder.

57:31

And they have I'm looking at their website, 30 plus highly trained technician operating out of three full-scale locations.

57:39

Um I am going to make a motion to bring this back because I'm gonna call Carrie Brothers myself and just get more background information, but kind of want to know why the bid didn't go to the lowest bidder.

57:55

Before we have that motion, do we have an explanation of why that is?

57:59

Through the chair, I can provide that answer.

58:02

Okay, go ahead, sir.

58:03

So through the chair, um, the reason we selected this bidder over carry was that um suburban of Ferndale is a certified Ford uh dealership.

58:13

And when it comes to the transmission work, fleet management prefers uh certified Ford.

58:18

Say it last part again.

58:20

You what?

58:21

Uh the fleet management team prefers for transmission work that it go to a certified Ford dealer.

58:26

Is there a reason for that?

58:30

I am unsure, but I can get you a good answer.

58:32

Okay.

58:37

I'm not hating on Ford here.

58:38

Let's not get let's not get crazy.

58:39

I you know, I just want to know just you know why, just out just out of curiosity, why that is.

58:45

I think that's a good question.

58:46

Remember Calloway, did you have anything else you want to ask?

58:48

Yeah, and and that's that that's that to your point is um the point I was making or the question I was asking.

58:55

Um, these this company has been in business working on Ford vehicles for over 40 years.

59:01

Um, and um I don't know why they're not qualified today.

59:05

They know how to work on, I'm sure they know how to work on Ford um vehicle tram transmissions.

59:10

Um I know they can, and they've been doing it for 40 years, and they're in Detroit.

59:15

But we are not awarding it to the lowest bidder.

59:18

We're going to Ferndale.

59:20

Ferndale is my neighbor.

59:21

That's that's the neighboring city on the other side of eight miles.

59:25

So um has nothing to do with that, but it has all to do with supporting small businesses that are located in our city who can do the same work.

59:32

We had an issue um with ABS two years ago.

59:37

They got a quarter of a million dollar contract, and we gave almost five, six million dollars to a company in Warren, Michigan, doing the same work.

59:45

AB ABS on West McNichols across from Mary Grove College does work in Oakland County, gross eel.

59:51

They do work all over the place, but they get very little work in the city that they've been in for 37 years, paying property taxes.

1:00:00

So I am going to move that we bring this back so I can get all my questions answered.

1:00:02

There are too many to answer to ask here.

1:00:06

But um I I'm uncomfortable with this.

1:00:09

I really am.

1:00:10

You can't tell me that Kerry brothers with all their technicians, certified licensed technicians, cannot work on a Ford transmission.

1:00:22

Now tell me if they can work on a BMW transmission, a Mercedes transmission, um, a Tesla transmission.

1:00:29

Uh maybe we can talk, but a Ford, not unless these um parts are coming from overseas, maybe, maybe the Ford vehicles were built out of the country.

1:00:40

I don't know.

1:00:41

That happens too.

1:00:42

Um so I need more explanation on why the lowest bidder did not get the contract.

1:00:49

It's only a hundred thousand dollars, a two-year contract.

1:00:53

So um, Mr.

1:00:55

Chair, that's all I have to say right now, but I am going to move that we bring this back in a week, and I will um in the meantime get them my questions.

1:01:03

Right, but but before you do that, I I just got one question.

1:01:06

I well, I got a statement.

1:01:08

I just got the answer to my own question because it's it I and forgive me, I uh it's it's in the teeter report.

1:01:14

And I oversaw this, and the reason why you want certified Ford is because the fleet's biggest customer is the police department, which is 90 percent for vehicles.

1:01:23

So I understand why it is because the majority of them are for vehicles, so you want somebody to certify them for that makes sense.

1:01:28

I get that.

1:01:29

But uh, in terms of the questions that uh member Callaway has um Mr.

1:01:34

Calloway, did you want to make that motion?

1:01:36

Do we does anybody else have any questions on this contract?

1:01:39

Okay, yeah, go ahead and make the motion.

1:01:42

Yeah, and discussion on my motion.

1:01:44

Um in the meantime, maybe we can split this contract because I don't believe that this carry brothers cannot do this work.

1:01:54

Um and we are the overseers of the budget, not the police department.

1:02:00

It's this legislative body that has to make sure we're um spending our dollars in the most um responsible manner, and in this regard, I don't believe we are because if that's the case, Carrie Brothers would never be able to work on any Ford products in the city.

1:02:17

That means you're gonna give suburban Ford in Ferndale a monopoly on the work, and that's not fair to Carrie Brothers who do who can do the work.

1:02:29

So let's give them an opportunity because they were the lowest bidders.

1:02:32

And was this language in the bid when you first let it?

1:02:36

Did it say you had to be um you know whatever whatever reason we're giving to award it to suburban was that in the contract language?

1:02:46

Uh uh in the bid.

1:02:48

Because if so, then maybe it would have only been one person bidding on it.

1:02:52

But obviously, Carrie came in first as the lowest bidder, which meant they met all of the qualifications.

1:02:59

And now we're trying to pivot by saying, Oh no, no, no, the police department wants it.

1:03:03

Doesn't matter what the police department wants, it's what this body wants and what the city can and cannot afford.

1:03:10

We want to make sure we don't lose any businesses in this city, and sometimes we're complicit in it because we allow our contract dollars to go outside of the city, enhancing other municipalities and their businesses to the detriment of the city and our businesses.

1:03:29

That I'm uncomfortable with.

1:03:30

So uh, Mr.

1:03:31

Chair, my motion is to bring it back in a week.

1:03:34

Let me just sorry, I want to discuss the motion really quickly.

1:03:37

I just wanted to add is is is Crystal Perkins available because she oversees the fleet.

1:03:42

Is Director Perkins available?

1:03:44

Miss Washington.

1:03:45

Can she comment on this, please?

1:03:50

Through the chair, uh, I would have to reach out to Miss Perkins if you'd like to bring it back.

1:03:59

We bring it back.

1:04:00

Yeah, my motion.

1:04:01

Okay.

1:04:02

Okay, so um wait, do I have to do I can we could just motion bring it back?

1:04:11

Or what no way?

1:04:12

You put the motion for one week.

1:04:13

So I have to do I have to honor that motion first, or can I just do the motion to bring it back?

1:04:17

No, Mr.

1:04:19

Chair.

1:04:19

Yeah, Mr.

1:04:20

Chair, please help me, Dr.

1:04:22

Powers.

1:04:22

Yes.

1:04:23

Um the motion to bring it back for one week.

1:04:27

I would is the bring back that was just suggested to come back at the end of the agenda today, or to bring the item back in one week.

1:04:38

Um I I want to just bring the I wanted to make a motion just to move this item to the end of the agenda so Christopher Perkins would be.

1:04:46

Yeah, that's what I thought, sir.

1:04:47

So you you don't need to deal with the one week motion.

1:04:50

Okay, you just you just simply have your your motion or without objection, you will bring this item back at the end of the agenda.

1:04:58

Right.

1:04:59

Okay.

1:05:00

Okay.

1:05:00

Mr.

1:05:00

Chair.

1:05:01

Um I disagree with that.

1:05:02

Um respectfully, Dr.

1:05:04

Powers.

1:05:05

My motion is it's it's on the floor.

1:05:07

I'm asking that it be brought back in a week.

1:05:09

We can vote it up or vote it down, but I'm gonna, I mean, so how do you supplant my motion by saying bring it back because Mr.

1:05:16

Washington is suggesting so?

1:05:18

My motion is it's still active, it's still live on the floor.

1:05:23

Yes, but bringing it back at a time certain uh at the end of this agenda takes proceedings over the bringing it back at one week.

1:05:31

Okay, tell me where you're seeing that in Roberts Rules of Order.

1:05:34

I don't have my book in front of you.

1:05:36

I want you to get your book if you can.

1:05:38

If not, my motion is live on the floor.

1:05:40

You can't how can we support?

1:05:42

I only advise, ma'am.

1:05:43

I only advise all right.

1:05:45

Um the chair can make the decision.

1:05:46

Um we're gonna go with the parliamentarian.

1:05:50

So uh there's a motion to move this item to the end of the agenda.

1:05:53

Are there any objections?

1:05:55

Objection, sir.

1:05:55

Yeah, one objection.

1:05:56

Okay, we'll move this item to the end of the agenda.

1:05:59

We are now moving to line item six point nine.

1:06:06

Contract six hundred seventy-four twenty-eight, one hundred percent city funding, provide service, labor, slash, and or parts for log loader and bucket trucks and units with hydraulic boom lifts, contract or southern truck equipment, DBA STE, location 4310, Van Dyke Road, Almont, Michigan, 4803 contract period point city council approval for a period of two years, total contract amount 150,000 dollars.

1:06:38

So motion to move line item 6.9 to formal session with recognition for approval to put on to new business.

1:06:46

Motion made are your objections here and none line of 6.9, we move the formal session with recognition for approval, you put on to new business.

1:06:56

Line item six point ten, contract number six hundred six six six six A1.

1:07:08

That's amendment one, IPA funding to provide an increase of funds only for new ambulance body replacement, contract of McQueen equipment, LLC DBA McQueen, location 10, 120 West Grand River Highway, Grand Ledge, Michigan 48837, contract period, October 29, 2024 through January 31st, 2027.

1:07:35

Contract increase amount 1,359,218 and 50 cents.

1:07:41

Total contract amount 7,366,699 and 59 cents.

1:07:46

Is there a motion to move line item 6.10 to formal session with recognition for approval?

1:07:52

We put on to new business.

1:07:54

Motion motion's been made.

1:07:56

Are there any objections?

1:07:57

Hearing none.

1:07:58

Line of 6.10, we move the formal session.

1:08:04

Um this item line of 6.11 was already um was already we already walked this item on uh this Tuesday and uh move this.

1:08:16

So is there a motion to remove line item 6.11 from the agenda?

1:08:20

Motion motion made are there objections here and then line 6.11 will be removed from the agenda.

1:08:26

Line of 6.12, contract number 600 five five six six amendment number one, a hundred percent city funding.

1:08:34

Number one to provide increase of funds only for events management for spirit plaza and recreational slash park affairs.

1:08:43

Total as a total access to the contract to total access events, location 2720 Oak McCourt, Detroit Michigan 48238, previous contract period, October 17th, 2023 through uh through okay.

1:08:59

Well, previous contract okay, previous, okay.

1:09:01

October 17, 2023 through October 16th, 2026, contract increase about 190,000.

1:09:10

Total contract amount 2 million 896,000 dollars.

1:09:15

Is there a motion to move line on 6.12 to formal session with recognition for approval be put on to new business?

1:09:24

Motion motion be made.

1:09:25

Are there any objections?

1:09:27

Hearing none.

1:09:27

Line of 6.12, we move to formal session with recognition for approval, we put on to new business.

1:09:33

Line item 6.13.

1:09:36

Contract 67375, 100% city funded to revise snow removal equipment repair, services, labor, and slash or parts.

1:09:46

Contracted McQueen equipment, LLC, DBA McQueen location 10, 120 West Grand River Highway, Grand Ledge, Michigan 48837 contract period Paul City Council approval for a period of three years.

1:10:00

Total contract about total contract about 300,000 dollars.

1:10:07

So motion move line of 6.13, the formal session with recognition for approval, you put up to do business.

1:10:12

Motion.

1:10:13

Motion made are the objections here in the line of 6.13.

1:10:17

We move the formal session with recognition for approval.

1:10:20

You put or to do business.

1:10:22

Line of 6.14.

1:10:24

Contract number 6737, 100% city funded to provide snow removal equipment repair services, labor, and slash or parts contract Southern Truck Equipment 8 DBA STE Location 43T, Van Dyke Row, all about mission for A003 contract period for city council approved for a period of three years.

1:10:48

So God's about 200,000 dollars.

1:10:51

Is there a motion to move line 6.14 the formal session with recognition for approval you put out to do business?

1:11:00

Is there a motion?

1:11:01

What line number item are you on?

1:11:03

Lyle 6.14.

1:11:06

All right.

1:11:07

Motion Bay.

1:11:08

Here it does.

1:11:10

Lyle 6.4.

1:11:11

Are there any objections?

1:11:12

Excuse me.

1:11:14

Objections.

1:11:15

Here it does, Lyle 6.14.

1:11:17

We move the formal session.

1:11:18

We recognition for approval, you put on to do business.

1:11:20

Mr.

1:11:21

Chair.

1:11:21

Yes.

1:11:22

Chair recognized the vice chair with Calloway.

1:11:24

Yeah, thank you.

1:11:24

Can we go back to line item 912?

1:11:26

I just had a question about it.

1:11:28

And 612.

1:11:30

612, yes.

1:11:31

Okay.

1:11:31

Okay.

1:11:32

Um it has to do with the um the JETS community center, and it was um a schedule B requests from council for 190,000 dollars.

1:11:48

Oh, and then um I noticed that um in the bid amendment uh in the teeth's report, it talks about the programming being managed directly by council president pro tem Tate's office, and um I did talk to Director Perkins this morning.

1:12:08

Um so is the Teter report incorrect as it's listed here.

1:12:18

Let's see, we have uh Mr.

1:12:21

Weatherup and uh Tobiko Williams that's on the line uh through the chair, yes.

1:12:30

This is Anthony Johnson, legislative policy division staff.

1:12:33

Oh my god, yeah, good to see you as well, sir.

1:12:36

Uh to councilwoman Calloway.

1:12:37

The TITA report has been redistributed.

1:12:40

Uh, was able to reach out to the department as well as OCP.

1:12:44

The language that was originally provided was not accurate.

1:12:47

Um, there has been an update um to the Teter report.

1:12:51

The Tita report now reads amending the contract to add programming at the James E.

1:12:56

Tate Center, which would be managed by the recreation department with input on special events by President Pro Tim Tay's office.

1:13:03

So in the original documentation, it wasn't worded that way.

1:13:06

However, I did work with the department of OCP to get an update to that language.

1:13:12

Okay.

1:13:12

Um Mr.

1:13:13

Chair, go ahead.

1:13:14

Okay, um, so this question will probably go to Mr.

1:13:17

Weatherup.

1:13:18

So uh council person can have input in programming at rec centers um in their district through the chair.

1:13:28

Um so because we got a new band shell, we got a new band show over at Parliament Park, and I know a lot of people have approached me about programming at the band shelf.

1:13:36

Will I have input in the um concerts to come to the band shell?

1:13:42

Through the chair, um no, general services owns and manages this contract, and it will continue to do so.

1:13:49

Um, the I believe the the misunderstanding was that we worked with um council member Tate's office to understand the the nature of programming so that we could figure out how many dollars to add to the contract.

1:14:01

Um, and there's just that that misunderstanding of management um got into the TEDA report and got through me.

1:14:07

That should have been my QA process.

1:14:09

I should have caught that, but no, there is no management of administration contracts coming from any council members.

1:14:15

Okay, through the chair to yourself, Mr.

1:14:17

Wither Weatherup, do will council persons have input with programming through the chair to to what degree?

1:14:29

I'm I'm not sure.

1:14:30

Um, I would have to work with uh director Perkins to get a proper answer for you, but in general, we do not use council member input to direct any activities in the administration.

1:14:40

Okay.

1:14:41

So that's what is that's what you just said though.

1:14:44

You said that they will Mr.

1:14:46

Johnson said through the chair that um the councilperson would have input.

1:14:51

What does that input look like?

1:15:00

So we're not going down some slippery slope that we'll regret in a year or two if we are saying council persons have the ability to have input in what goes on in their district at different rec centers because I would love to have input at what occurs at you know, i.e.

1:15:14

the band shelf.

1:15:16

So I'm just trying to get an understanding of what the in the the degree of the input.

1:15:23

Do you think we should put something in writing before we say that a council person can have input?

1:15:29

What does that input look like or will look like?

1:15:33

And is this a slippery slope that we want to go down?

1:15:36

Because if we're gonna let the rec department, let me finish through the chair, Mr.

1:15:40

Weatherwork.

1:15:41

If the if it is the responsibility of the general services division and their park and rec division to manage these um programming, then they should be allowed to do it without a council person having any input.

1:15:55

That's their job.

1:15:57

Our job is to get the funding for the programming.

1:16:01

That's that's that that's my opinion.

1:16:03

That's how I look at it.

1:16:04

I could be entirely wrong.

1:16:06

I'm not sure.

1:16:06

I'm trying to understand what is the input, because I'd like some input.

1:16:13

Through the chair, uh completely understand the question.

1:16:16

To my understanding, the the input has already occurred.

1:16:19

It was our initial conversations with councilmember Tate's office to understand the nature of programming that is going to be happening at the center.

1:16:27

And so that input has ended, uh, and we will now be managing it from here out.

1:16:33

Okay.

1:16:34

So are you saying some input was had, and that input has already expired?

1:16:42

Through the chair, uh, yeah, I'm I apologize if I'm I'm losing in my vocabulary here.

1:16:47

We had high-level conversation from with the council member Tate's office about the need for programming at the center.

1:16:56

We asked, you know, and we're answered the the general types of programming that we're looking for, and then we use that input to derive a new number for the amendment, and we will be executing it.

1:17:07

Okay.

1:17:07

So I'm just trying to understand because it's all on the record.

1:17:11

We have programming coming up at the band shell, right?

1:17:14

I want input.

1:17:16

So does the input stop at this particular rec center, or does the input extend to every city council person?

1:17:25

Do we have the ability to have some input?

1:17:28

Because I got a whole, I mean, I have people lining up to want to have concerts at the band shell.

1:17:34

So will I be able to have input, Mr.

1:17:37

Weather, or should Director Perkins come online?

1:17:41

Through the chair, I'm gonna defer that answer um to Director Perkins when she's available.

1:17:46

I apologize.

1:17:46

I don't have a good answer for you.

1:17:49

Okay.

1:17:50

Uh Mr.

1:17:50

Johnson, did you have anything you want to say?

1:17:52

I uh I'm I'm I'm sorry, Mr.

1:17:54

Calloway, were you done?

1:17:55

Did you have any questions?

1:17:56

I'm done.

1:17:56

Okay.

1:17:57

Yeah, I I just want to know like what's the definition of input?

1:18:00

Because I I I I I you know, not to be like the slow key in the class here, but I I know when we were dealing with the uh the Colman A Young Center, uh people had reached out to me and talked to me, and they and and they had me come in first, and they gave me the layout of what was going on and how it looked, and they could kind of basically ask me what I thought, what I thought about it.

1:18:22

And I would think definitionally that would be considered input.

1:18:25

And I'm thinking that maybe they gave, you know, um member Tate that's saying cash A, because it's a because it's named after him.

1:18:33

And so they allowed him to look.

1:18:35

I understand the other side of the argument, you know, in terms of the council members want to have input into the band show.

1:18:40

What I understand the other side of argument.

1:18:42

I'm just trying to make sure that I understand what input means.

1:18:45

I don't think it necessarily means you're going to do something.

1:18:48

It's just it could just be more like an update of what's going on.

1:18:51

Because when they let me walk in, it was already finished.

1:18:54

And so they would just gave me like a personal tour.

1:18:56

And they let me see like the pool that was fixed, they let me see like the shower lockers, and then they let me see the um the foosball.

1:19:04

I played Mayor Doug and then lost.

1:19:06

I want to rematch.

1:19:07

Um, and then we went to the basketball court and they showed me like you know, my father's name across the basketball court, and I thought that was really cool.

1:19:15

I you know, but it but it wasn't like I was like in control of the programs or had an influence over what the programs were.

1:19:23

They were just wanting to hear my feedback on what I was looking at.

1:19:27

And I, you know, because the the honor of my father and what that recreational center means for the community.

1:19:33

And so I just want to know is is that what you mean by input?

1:19:38

Uh through the chair too, Mr.

1:19:40

Chair.

1:19:40

Um, that language was provided to me by OCP.

1:19:43

Um simply just reporting what came from.

1:19:46

No, I see we have deputy director here online.

1:19:48

Maybe he could further explain uh the input scenario.

1:19:53

We run away from input.

1:19:54

All right.

1:19:55

Uh I feel you, Mr.

1:19:56

Harris.

1:19:58

Sir, good to see you, sir.

1:20:00

Go ahead, my man.

1:20:00

Let the shirt.

1:20:03

Thank you.

1:20:03

Uh, good afternoon, uh, Mr.

1:20:05

Chair, Jarrell Harris, Deputy Director of General Services Department, um, through you into Councilmember Callaway.

1:20:11

Um, we always welcome input and feedback and suggestions from all council members.

1:20:17

Um, you all are on the ground every day hearing from residents, hearing from block clubs, hearing from community members about the types of events, activities, programs, things they would like to see either at our rec centers, at our parks, and our other facilities.

1:20:31

Um, so we always welcome your input and thoughts and ideas about um what residents are telling you are the things that are important to them.

1:20:40

And so when we say input, um, and as a number of you have done before or through your staff, um, you will pass on that information that you're hearing from the residents on the ground about the types of events and activities and things they would like to see.

1:20:52

Um, it is not you all directing us on what to do or telling us how to run the facilities or what programs to have, uh, but you're sharing that information, and rightfully so, from the people that you all are elected to serve.

1:21:04

And so we continue to welcome um that type of um transfer of information, right?

1:21:09

Because you're hearing these things from residents you're into uh regarding the band show, you're hearing about the types of music or the types of events and activities or different things that can happen in that facility.

1:21:20

Um, so we absolutely want you all to continue to share that information with us so we can then use that.

1:21:26

Um we're making the decisions, and GSD makes the decision about how we program and what we do in those spaces.

1:21:31

Um, but the more information we have, the better we are able to respond to the things uh that residents are requesting or asking for.

1:21:38

So I hope that clarifies it.

1:21:40

Uh we absolutely would continue to want to hear from you all about what you're hearing from residents, so that just makes us better and more responsive to the things that uh residents will find you know interesting or entertaining and uh more engaging at our facilities.

1:21:55

Thank you.

1:21:55

Thanks for my question.

1:21:56

Thank you go ahead, Baby Calloway.

1:21:57

Do you want to say something?

1:21:58

Thank you, Mr.

1:21:58

Harris, for the clarification.

1:22:00

I just know that I um have been approached um by a number of artists uh throughout the city about um performing at the band shell.

1:22:11

And I want to make sure that um I'm their voice.

1:22:15

Um if there's an application process, I'm sure there will be.

1:22:18

Um, and I don't want there to be any favoritism in terms of who gets to access the band shell.

1:22:24

It's not a Palmer Park band shell.

1:22:26

It is not.

1:22:27

Um, and I don't want that to be viewed.

1:22:29

That Palmer Park owns that band shell.

1:22:32

It just happens to be located in that space.

1:22:34

And I'm just hearing things that um, you know, um, you know, that we got to change the conversation about who is going to have input in the programming, and that's why I'm bringing all this up, just to put it um before you, because that's what's happening that I'm hearing.

1:22:51

So I just want to make sure it's a fair process and that I will have input now that I know I can have I didn't know I could have some input.

1:22:58

Um, but now that I know I can have um for lack of a better word, a little say so or a little bit of um, you know, um influence, maybe that's the wrong word.

1:23:08

Um don't want there to be a conflict, but it input is good, it's a good word, and I I appreciate that.

1:23:13

So I'm looking forward to having some input uh on what happens um at the rec centers and the band shell in district two.

1:23:21

Thank you, Mr.

1:23:21

Chair.

1:23:21

Thank you, Mr.

1:23:22

Harris.

1:23:25

All right, thank you.

1:23:26

And so I want to make it clearer, and I uh support the language that was used by my colleague, a slippery slope.

1:23:33

And so when we look at this, and then we use language that talks about input, of course, we'd like to have input on things within our districts, which we have at this table.

1:23:44

I don't want my colleagues to forget that.

1:23:45

We have a very big level of and a huge cudgel when it comes to input, but it's critical that we continue to have that separation of the administrative and the executive branches when it comes to decision making.

1:24:00

And so if you're indicating that I can veto any events in the third district that I find objectionable, or that I can act only um laud and and support um activities that I find uh positive and I like, and that has sway on what type of programming we have in the third district or citywide.

1:24:21

In general, that's dangerous, and that is a slippery slope.

1:24:25

And I hope that we'll continue to remember that when we have conversations like this at the table.

1:24:30

So it's very critical that you all use language that is clear when we're looking at things of this neighbor, that this of this nature.

1:24:38

Good governance is very, very important.

1:24:42

And the charter specifically calls out that there is not to be a crossing of the line between the administrative nor the legislative branch and the language that was used in the TEDA report, and this could be a teeter issue, which is a legislative body, cross that line and leads, as my colleague said, to a slippery slope.

1:25:03

So I'm hoping we're going to continue that bright line between both branches.

1:25:07

And if not, I will gladly start vetoing events that I find objectionable in the third district as well as advocating for those that I like.

1:25:16

And so there will be bike races every weekend at the parks within the third district if I had my way.

1:25:22

But I do not, nor do I want my way, because I don't think that's good governance.

1:25:25

And so I'm hoping that we will in the future continue to enforce the bright line between the different branches of government.

1:25:33

Thank you.

1:25:36

Through the chair to Councilmember Benson, you're absolutely correct.

1:25:39

Um we have been um very good about using appropriate language and not uh you know this one slip past us and then we own that mistake.

1:25:47

Uh but we'll make sure moving forward that it is always very clear.

1:25:50

Um that there's no room for confusion uh and that we can keep things moving smoothly like they have them.

1:25:56

And and I just threw the chair, I just want to make sure I'm not indicating that you all shouldn't come to us and say, hey, what do you think?

1:26:02

What are your thoughts on this?

1:26:03

That that's very appropriate, but veto power or anything of that nature.

1:26:07

That that would be I find to be inappropriate.

1:26:09

I think the law department would agree with me there.

1:26:11

But I think this saying, hey, what do you think about this?

1:26:13

Should it be blue?

1:26:14

What do you think about blue?

1:26:15

Well, the residents don't like blue, but it's up to you if you're gonna decide to put that blue or or aqua green.

1:26:20

But I just want to make sure that we are complying with you uh the charter and that we keep that bright line.

1:26:26

Thank you.

1:26:28

All right.

1:26:29

Any other questions?

1:26:31

No one's a concerns.

1:26:32

All right, it's my input.

1:26:34

We move on.

1:26:34

So thank you.

1:26:35

Appreciate that.

1:26:37

All right, uh, Madam Clerk, where are we?

1:26:39

I think we're at 6.15, right?

1:26:41

Yes.

1:26:41

6.15.

1:26:42

All right.

1:26:43

Did I already make a motion for 6.15?

1:26:45

Or no, I didn't.

1:26:46

Okay.

1:26:47

So Lionel 6.15 contract number 67365, 100% bond funding to provide park improvement at Simonic Park Contractor, Michigan Recreational Construction Inc.

1:27:02

Location 18631 Conick, Detroit, Michigan, 48234 contract period city council approval through September 7th, 2027.

1:27:13

Total contract amount to me, 836,500.

1:27:17

Is there a motion to move line of 6.15 to formal session with recognition for approval?

1:27:22

We put off to new business.

1:27:25

Motion made our name of Jess Line 6.15.

1:27:29

We move to formal session with recognition for approval.

1:27:32

We put on to new business.

1:27:35

Line on 6.16.

1:27:37

Contract 673 77, 100% city funding to provide snow removal equipment repair services, labor slash, and or parts.

1:27:49

No, and slash or parts.

1:27:52

Contractor Bill Jones Enterprises, DBA Metro Airport Truck Location 13385, Inkston Road, Taylor, Michigan, 48180 contract paper city council approved for a period of three years.

1:28:05

Total contract about 525,000 dollars.

1:28:08

Is there a motion to move line 6.6 uh item six points line out of 6.16 to formal session with recognition for approval you put off to new business?

1:28:17

Um, quick question, um, discussion, Mr.

1:28:19

Chair.

1:28:20

Chair recognizes uh uh Vice Chair McCallowa.

1:28:23

Is there anyone on from general services?

1:28:25

Because are these Ford products?

1:28:28

I think it is Alex Weather up and uh Pamela Crump.

1:28:32

Mr.

1:28:32

Weather up.

1:28:34

Good to see you.

1:28:35

Go ahead, sir.

1:28:37

Through the chair to member Callaway, this uh these contracts for snow removal equipment repair are specifically for the the plows and the salt spreaders, um, the belly plows, the e-poke systems that spread the the salt across the street.

1:28:50

Um so these are are not for products, they are uh third party.

1:28:53

Okay, through through the chair to you, Mr.

1:28:55

Weather up.

1:28:56

Did Bill Jones manufacture or make any of these um snow removers?

1:29:00

Because my point is that we have we're giving these contracts to folks who are not the manufacturing of these, but they are skilled and experienced in repairing them, so they don't necessarily have to manufacture the product to repair the product, they just have the um wherewithal and the knowledge to repair them.

1:29:20

So now we have Bill Jones Enterprises in Taylor, Michigan, that is qualified, experienced to repair snow removal equipment they didn't make.

1:29:33

They didn't manufacture it, like suburban Ford.

1:29:36

They have technicians working on products that their employer manufactured.

1:29:41

So the I'm just saying that we this is a um half a million dollar contract.

1:29:46

This is 52,500,000 going to Taylor, Michigan to repair snowblowers.

1:29:53

The plows that they didn't make.

1:30:00

And we're trusting that they can get it done because they've been doing it probably for a number of years, the same way with the Carey brothers.

1:30:05

So, you know, I'm just trying to make my point.

1:30:08

And that's why I'm glad we're hopefully we're gonna bring it back in a week.

1:30:11

Um, I know it's coming back at the end of the agenda, but this proves my point that you don't necessarily have to manufacture the product to repair the product.

1:30:18

You can just have the skill set to repair it, and you're proving it right here with the Bill Jones Enterprises contract.

1:30:24

They're working on something they didn't manufacture.

1:30:28

But they can do it.

1:30:30

So thank you, Mr.

1:30:30

Chair.

1:30:32

Thank you.

1:30:33

Um did you want to add you respond to that, Mr.

1:30:36

Weatherup?

1:30:37

Or no?

1:30:39

Okay.

1:30:39

I wanted to ask you something.

1:30:41

I'm I'm I'm looking at uh Southern truck equipment.

1:30:44

Is labor rate is $125 per hour, and parts are 15 or 15% off the uh list price, and then it says the labor rate for Bill Joe's Enterprises is $135 per hour, as uh parts cost plus 35%.

1:31:06

Why did they get the bid even though Southern truck had equipment had the lower bid?

1:31:14

So when it came to this bid and with all fleet repairs, price is just as important as availability and diversity of vendors.

1:31:21

Uh we often find in the fleet industry one vendor is slammed, and if they're our only vendor, we just have to wait.

1:31:26

So we like to have multiple options uh for repair where possible.

1:31:31

Oh, okay.

1:31:31

I see what you're saying.

1:31:32

So okay, because you already gave them the one you want to have multiple vendors as possible.

1:31:36

You don't want to start giving contracts to the same vendor.

1:31:39

Okay, I got it.

1:31:40

Okay, I got it.

1:31:40

I got all right.

1:31:43

Uh motion, wait, I don't think I made the motion.

1:31:46

Did I make that I make the motion?

1:31:47

Yeah, I don't think I made the motion.

1:31:48

Okay, I didn't think so.

1:31:49

Do I have a motion for the send line of 6.16 the formal session with recognition for approval be put onto new business?

1:31:58

Their motion.

1:31:59

Motion motion made.

1:32:00

Are there objections?

1:32:01

Here in the line of 6.16, we move the formal session with recognition for approval, we put onto new business.

1:32:08

Now we move the line back to line on 6.8, right, ma'am?

1:32:12

Claire, or do we, or do we go with the rest of the agenda and then go to line on 6.8?

1:32:17

Right.

1:32:17

So that's I just want to make sure that's not the end of the line.

1:32:21

So go through the grants and then okay, I'm gonna make sure.

1:32:24

All right.

1:32:25

So Office of Chief Financial Officer slash Office of Development and Grants.

1:32:33

Request to accept appropriate fiscal year 2025 Haas Emory Park Improvement Grant.

1:32:38

The Gilbert Family Foundation has awarded the City of Detroit General Service Department with the fiscal year 2025.

1:32:46

Haas Emory Park Improvement Grant for a total of $500,000.

1:32:52

There is no match requirement.

1:32:53

Total project cost is $500,000.

1:32:55

Is there a motion to move line on 6.17 to formal session with recognition for approval we put on to do business?

1:33:01

Discussion, discussion.

1:33:03

Motion discussion.

1:33:08

Okay, well, um, just just quick.

1:33:10

Hey, Mr.

1:33:11

Gilbert, um, the Gilbert Family Foundation.

1:33:14

I got a fountain over at the Palmer Park.

1:33:17

And um, I would love to know how we can apply for a grant to get that fountain up and running.

1:33:23

It's the people's fountain.

1:33:25

It's been in the city since 1903 and dumped at Palmer Park, still waiting for something to happen over there.

1:33:31

It's continuing to deteriorate.

1:33:33

Although a year or so ago, we voted to put 2.5 million dollars into it.

1:33:37

It hasn't happened yet.

1:33:38

So I'm hoping we can um get some grant dollars to help out that fountain in district two.

1:33:45

It's it would be a beautiful wedding destination.

1:33:48

As soon as you cross eight mile, you'll be able to see it um on Woodward.

1:33:53

It'd be a visitors and um tourist destination.

1:33:57

That would be the first thing they see before they hit the fountains downtown.

1:34:01

Thank you so much, Mr.

1:34:02

Chair.

1:34:03

Thank you.

1:34:05

Um, very much um and this, the uh Hassie uh Emory Park, affectionately known as Eugene Slappy Park, um, will hopefully be up and running uh with the new improvements by uh spring of next year.

1:34:24

So it's really looking forward to this as one of the park improvements that we have going on in the third district, and we had a conversation, we had the opportunity to talk with GSD uh during our green task force um site visit to Philadelphia this year, and it became part of the conversation.

1:34:42

Really excited uh to see this, and this is a huge amount of community input for this park and one of our community leader icons, Mr.

1:34:50

Eugene Slappy, whose family still lives near this park.

1:34:55

Thank you.

1:34:58

All right, motion has been made.

1:35:00

Are there is are there any objections to moving line moving members of any or any objections?

1:35:07

Here in Lion 6.17, we move to formal session with recommendations for approval, we put onto new business.

1:35:15

Lion 6.18 request to accept and appropriate the fiscal year 2026, Eliza Howe Park Improvement Grant.

1:35:24

The Gilbert Family Foundation is awarded the City of Detroit General Services Department with the fiscal year 2026 Eliza Howell Park Improvement Grant for 400,000.

1:35:33

There is no match requirement.

1:35:35

Total project cost 400,000.

1:35:37

Is there a motion to move line on 6.18 to formal session with recognition for approval we put on to do business?

1:35:43

Discussion.

1:35:44

Motion made discussion.

1:35:46

Chair recognizes uh Vice Chairman McCalloway.

1:35:49

Um, just um through you might uh you might know the answer to this.

1:35:52

What district is Eliza Howell Park in?

1:35:55

Is that district one or district seven?

1:35:57

Or neither of the two one?

1:36:00

Okay.

1:36:01

Um Mr.

1:36:02

Gilt through the chair, Mr.

1:36:03

Gilbert.

1:36:04

If someone from your staff is listening, um, that's 400,000 for district one.

1:36:09

Maybe I just don't vote the way I'm supposed to vote around here.

1:36:11

I don't know.

1:36:12

But I'm gonna continue to fight for my residents in district two.

1:36:15

We do need some grant dollars over there.

1:36:17

So I'm hoping um so now we've had district three.

1:36:20

Are we getting we're getting down to district three again?

1:36:23

And now district one.

1:36:24

So Mr.

1:36:24

Gilbert, if any you or anyone from your staff is listening, maybe we can um talk about that fountain over at Palmer Park that would be the people's fountain in the city.

1:36:33

It would be the only one in in a neighborhood outside of downtown Detroit.

1:36:38

Children deserve that experience.

1:36:41

They shouldn't have to go downtown to see water.

1:36:44

They should be able to have that fountain running like it used to run before um Ford Motor Company and other um the other big two came in and brought the cars in and did away with the horse and buggies, and they had no reason to have that fountain down there, which used to be a watering spot for the horses to move traffic.

1:37:03

So I get it, but it's there.

1:37:05

We're gonna deal with it.

1:37:06

But Mr.

1:37:07

Gilbert, please, we need your help in District 2, the highest paying district of property taxes, the largest voting block in the state.

1:37:15

We need your help, Mr.

1:37:16

Gilbert.

1:37:16

Thank you, Mr.

1:37:17

Chair.

1:37:18

All right.

1:37:19

Uh motion's been made.

1:37:21

Are there any objections?

1:37:24

Hearing none, line 6.18.

1:37:26

We move to formal session with recommendations for approval.

1:37:29

Put on to new business.

1:37:31

We will now go to line item six point eight.

1:37:41

Through the chair.

1:37:42

You have to do 619.

1:37:45

6.19.

1:37:45

I thought 6.96.8 was the one we've got.

1:37:55

Oh, okay.

1:37:56

I forgot.

1:37:57

Okay.

1:37:58

I missed that one.

1:37:59

My bad.

1:38:00

All right.

1:38:01

Request to accept and appropriate the fiscal year 2025, Doris Park Improvement Grant.

1:38:06

The Gilbert Family Foundation is awarded.

1:38:08

City Detroit Jural Services Department with the fiscal year 2025, Doris Park Improvement Grant for a total of 300,000.

1:38:15

There is no match requirement.

1:38:17

The total project cost of 300,000.

1:38:19

Is there a motion to move line on 6.19 the formal session with recognition for approval?

1:38:24

Motion.

1:38:25

Discussion.

1:38:26

Motion made this motion.

1:38:27

Motion made.

1:38:28

Discussion.

1:38:30

Chair recognized Vice Chairman McCalloway.

1:38:32

I probably don't need to say what I've just said prior to for line item 617 and 618.

1:38:37

Same thing for 619, Mr.

1:38:39

Gilbert.

1:38:40

We certainly need some help with getting that fountain running.

1:38:43

It would be the people's fountain, not Councilmember Callaway's fountain.

1:38:48

Hopefully, you um, you know, we know that you uh grew up in Detroit.

1:38:51

Um, Mr.

1:38:52

Turgo, I hope you're listening to you.

1:38:54

You grew up in Detroit on Griggs.

1:38:56

We have a lot of folks who grew up in Detroit, and um you probably saw that fountain when you when you were younger.

1:39:02

Um, but I'm asking you to help get that fountain up and running.

1:39:07

It would be a jewel in the city.

1:39:09

And as soon as people cross Eight Mile into Detroit, where there used to be a toll booth where people were charged to come into the city from the rural area just on the other side of Eight Mile.

1:39:20

The toll was there.

1:39:22

There's a um historic marker there that tells you in 1938 that marker was put there because of the toll.

1:39:30

So I'm and the fountain is right there.

1:39:32

It will be a beautiful, beautiful site to behold for anyone traveling into the city and traveling back across Eight Mile.

1:39:39

So, Mr.

1:39:40

Gilbert, I hope that maybe one day you can visit that site, you or someone from your team, and just take a look at it because it's still um deteriorating, falling apart, and we're talking about something that used to be a jewel across the street from the original opera house before it burned down and moved to Palmer Park and just left there.

1:40:00

So I'm gonna keep talking about it.

1:40:02

Thank you, Mr.

1:40:03

Chair.

1:40:04

Discussion.

1:40:05

Chair recognizes Vincent.

1:40:07

All right, thank you.

1:40:08

And this is uh part of the two million dollars uh park improvements that we're gonna be seeing in the third district this year, and so this grant is going to be leveraging um improved walkways, drainage, green stormwater infrastructure, uh, as well as air quality monitoring um benches and other pedestrian pathway enhancements at our 28-acre park.

1:40:33

So just really glad to see this type of investment to leverage um some of our general fund dollars that are going into the park this year and to have the philanthropic community be a part of that as well.

1:40:45

And so we now have two parks that are going to uh see investment uh this year as a direct result of my advocacy at the table and the philanthropic communities leveraging of our generals general fund dollars to help beautify and improve our parks within the third district.

1:41:02

We're looking forward to that.

1:41:03

And uh on the 25th of October, there will be our annual cyclocross race at Durayus uh Park Derby Hill, uh the old Vellodrome.

1:41:12

So really looking forward to that activity as well.

1:41:15

Thank you.

1:41:17

All right, motion has been made.

1:41:19

Are there any objections?

1:41:24

Okay, hearing none line on 6.19.

1:41:26

We moved a formal session, we recognate for approval.

1:41:28

We put on some new business.

1:41:30

We will now move the line item six to go back, excuse me, line of six point eight.

1:41:46

And I think we've already kind of discussed all that we need to discuss.

1:41:50

Is there anything else anybody else wanted to say Mr.

1:41:54

Um Chair?

1:41:55

We were waiting to get the information on line item 6.8.

1:41:59

I asked if we bring it back in a week, but it was decided that it'd be brought back to end of agenda.

1:42:04

Right, but no, but I wanted to see I want to see if Crystal Perkins was available.

1:42:07

That's where I forgot.

1:42:08

Um by bad.

1:42:10

Uh Mr.

1:42:10

Watch, is Crystal Perkins available?

1:42:13

Uh through the chair, um, fleet is actually managed by um group acceptance counts.

1:42:18

So she has joined us if she can be promoted.

1:42:21

Okay, excellent.

1:42:23

Director Counts.

1:42:33

And through the chair, I also had received a request um for DPD to be on standby.

1:42:38

We do have Commander Stacy Alvarado available as well.

1:42:41

Excellent.

1:42:44

Good afternoon, Lewan Council, group exec over construction and building operations.

1:42:49

Excellent.

1:42:50

Um I had you on here is I wanted you to comment on what we were talking about here with this with this particular contract in terms of why it is that well, one, I want to know why it is that um this correct title here while Sir Bur while uh contractor F Ferndale F LLC got the contract over um the Kerry brothers, and then secondly, I just wanted to ask you why is it important for us to have a certified Ford uh dealer do a uh fixing this fleet?

1:43:33

It actually was determined that while Kerry Brothers was the lowest bidder, it was not deemed that they were the lowest most responsive bidder.

1:43:42

Um in this instance, the the fact that Suburban Ford is a certified authorized dealer um gives them a more preferential um experience level over Carrie Brothers.

1:44:00

Um we do have other contracts with Carrie Brothers.

1:44:03

Those are more those are mainly um heavy duty.

1:44:06

They're responsible for our um heavy duty repair on our bigger equipment, so like our snow trucks and our sweepers, we do rely heavily on Carrie Brothers for other items, but in this instance, we the it was deemed that an authorized dealer for Ford Parts was more qualified for this particular contract.

1:44:33

Okay.

1:44:37

Um Miss Franklin, is there anything you wanted to add to this?

1:44:46

As through the chair, um I believe councilmember Callaway asked about the RFQ language itself.

1:44:54

It does state that the vendor who will be selected will need to be an authorized agent and shall be authorized to perform warranty work.

1:45:03

Mr.

1:45:04

Kerry, I'm sorry, William Carey did confirm that they are not authorized to perform warranty forward work.

1:45:16

Yes, um, thank you.

1:45:16

Thank you.

1:45:19

Thank you so much, Mr.

1:45:19

Chair.

1:45:20

Thank you, Miss Council Miss Franklin.

1:45:21

So, how did they become the lowest bidder if they weren't even qualified to bid on this contract?

1:45:28

How did they even make the pool if you're saying in the language of the bid that they had to be authorized to work on the work when they weren't authorized to work on the work?

1:45:39

So why even go through all of this if they're if they weren't even authorized?

1:45:44

Um I'm not I'm trying to understand the system.

1:45:47

How how did they get on this sheet of paper as the lowest bidder when they weren't even authorized to work on this work?

1:45:57

These repairs.

1:45:59

How do we how did they get here?

1:46:03

Through through the chair, I believe the technicalities of why they're able to bid um needs to be discussed with the OCP, but we we cannot refuse um a vendor from submitting a proposal.

1:46:14

Um it is during the review of the proposals that the determination is made if that bid qualifies or if the bidder's qualifications qualify them to move, you know, qualify for their bid to be actually considered for award.

1:46:29

Um, but the specifics as to why that is that's a that's a procurement process, and someone from OCP would have to speak to Callaway.

1:46:40

I'm perplexed.

1:46:41

I don't I don't have any other questions.

1:46:43

I'm just total, yeah.

1:46:45

Okay.

1:46:45

Uh does your motion stand or do you want to like to get to the bottom of it?

1:46:50

I mean, I'd like a week because I have a lot of questions.

1:46:53

We're gonna call the carry brothers.

1:46:54

Okay, um, so my motion stands that we bring it back in a week so I can get my questions answered.

1:46:59

Thank you, Mr.

1:46:59

Chair.

1:47:00

No problem.

1:47:00

And I just want to make sure I'm quite that that's that is that from the Kerry brothers and from the deport various departments as well.

1:47:06

Okay, yes, sir.

1:47:07

Okay, uh, is there a motion to uh bring back line item 6.8 in one week?

1:47:12

Motion motion made or any objections here and then we'll bring back line of 6.8 in one week.

1:47:19

We will now move on to member reports.

1:47:21

Uh negative member reports for me.

1:47:24

Uh to Vice Chairman McCalloway.

1:47:26

Negative reports, maybe Benson.

1:47:28

Uh, yes, I just want to say thank you to PDD and HRD departments and my staff.

1:47:33

We hosted an excellent third district housing fair.

1:47:36

This was at the behest of or other request of um the East Davidson Village community, and so we had about 10 vendors that came out.

1:47:43

We had the Wayne County Treasurer and their fantastic RV mobile um foreclosure prevention uh RV.

1:47:52

We had the health department talk about uh lead uh removal in the homes.

1:47:58

We had the land bank uh was selling property and ringing the bell.

1:48:02

Um, a number of uh happy residents that left there.

1:48:04

We had planning development department educating residents about the master plan process and when that will be coming out, and so it was a fantastic event, well attended.

1:48:15

We had close to 200 people who attended that event in the two-hour period.

1:48:19

We had translators there to ensure the members of our Yemeni and Bengali communities were able to uh talk and speak with representatives of the different departments if there was a language barrier.

1:48:31

So it's really excited to see the community come out and the ability to get these type of resources at Laske Recreation Center on a Tuesday evening in the district.

1:48:42

Fantastic and have that type of turn out turnout on a Tuesday evening just really buoyed my spirit and the spirit of my of my staff as well as the city employees who are there that day.

1:48:52

Thank you.

1:48:53

Did you also talk about um the state planning as well?

1:48:57

And and wealth generation at all, or Mr.

1:48:59

Chair, as always, you hit the nail right on the head, Mr.

1:49:02

Chairman.

1:49:02

I just want I just want to make sure you didn't forget about having that.

1:49:04

We had HRD with those services.

1:49:06

We had Mr.

1:49:07

Razzo, who was there talking about uh zero percent interest loan program as well, as well as grants that were there available for our homeowners and residents.

1:49:16

So it was just really a fantastic event.

1:49:19

Sounds like something like a big deal.

1:49:20

All right, without objection, neighborhood community service and standard community will now be adjourned.

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Summary of Proceedings

Detroit City Council Meeting – October 2, 2025

The Detroit City Council held a lengthy public meeting on October 2, 2025, addressing over a dozen agenda items. The session included public testimony on tax incentives, drainage fees, housing, and community concerns; discussion and votes on event permits, contracts, and park grants; and a detailed debate on a vehicle repair contract that was ultimately held for one week. The meeting was attended by council members, city staff, and residents in person and virtually.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Speaker 1 (in‑person, unaffiliated): Proposed legislation to create a tax cut for married couples moving into Detroit, arguing it would promote family stability, reduce fatherlessness, and improve neighborhoods.
  • Reverend Rodney Hamilton (Mount Lebanon Missionary Baptist Church): Described his church’s community outreach events (Family & Friends Day on May 25, Vacation Bible School on July 19) and asked the council for support with future projects.
  • Vice Chair Galloway (Councilmember): Expressed strong support for nonprofits and churches acquiring and rehabbing properties for affordable housing, but stressed that any property‑tax cuts should also benefit long‑time Detroit residents who “stuck and stayed.”
  • Jadante Smith (District 3 resident): Criticized Councilmember Mary Sheffield for missing a scheduled meeting, and Councilmember Scott Benson for not responding to emails about a wide‑open vacant house at 19187 Cardoni Street. He urged immediate boarding of the property and invited council members to an October 10 community meeting at Paris Bar.
  • William M. Davis (virtual caller): Called for reducing Detroit’s highest‑in‑nation property taxes and drainage fees, and for increasing voter turnout. He implied that the city favors new, lighter‑skinned residents over legacy residents.
  • Caller 169 (virtual): Thanked the body for prayers for Cheryl Marie Lyons (mother of another caller).
  • Tyson Gersh (virtual caller): Asked why the city stopped updating the Open Checkbook Detroit transparency site in early 2021, and requested a return to regular updates.
  • Betty A. Barner (virtual, legacy resident): Questioned the cessation of her Lifeline water‑bill assistance benefits as of September 30, 2025, without explanation. She asked whether the program was ending for everyone or just some individuals, and demanded an answer from the city.
  • Caller 124 (virtual): Accused the city of a “solar scam,” of ignoring a concrete crusher issue, and of providing “grief and no relief” to residents.
  • Cunningham (virtual caller): Thanked the council for prayers for his mother (Cheryl Marie Lyons), confirmed she is recovering from a fall, and invited elected officials to a bus‑ride‑along on Saturday, October 11, 2025.
  • Caller 482 (virtual): Alleged widespread election fraud and cover‑ups, and said he would “turn the whole city upside down.”

Discussion Items

  • Drainage Fee Inquiry: Vice Chair Galloway questioned DWSD’s Sonali Patel about the drainage fee. Discussion clarified that every parcel in Detroit is charged based on impervious surface; the fee is similar to or lower than suburban communities; and it funds stormwater management, combined‑sewer overflow reduction, and flood mitigation. Councilmember Galloway requested a comparative chart of charges in other municipalities. Councilmember Benson clarified that the Easy Pay plan is a debt‑spreading tool, not a reduction, while the Lifeline program is an income‑based affordability plan that is being restructured due to reduced federal/state funding.
  • Contract 67385 – Suburban Ford Repairs (Line 6.8): Vice Chair Galloway moved to hold the $100,000, two‑year contract for transmission repairs because the lowest bidder, Carrie Brothers (a Detroit firm operating for 40 years), was not selected. The administration explained that Suburban Ford (Ferndale) is a certified Ford dealer, and the police fleet is 90% Ford. Councilmember Galloway argued that Carrie Brothers has the skill to repair Ford products, and that awarding contracts outside the city harms local businesses. After a parliamentary exchange, the item was initially moved to the end of the agenda, and later a motion to bring it back in one week was approved.
  • Contract 67377 – Snow Removal Equipment Repairs (Line 6.16): Councilmember Galloway noted that Bill Jones Enterprises (Taylor, MI) was awarded a $525,000 contract to repair equipment they did not manufacture, reinforcing her point that Carrie Brothers could do similar work. The administration cited price, availability, and diversity of vendors as reasons for the award.
  • Park Improvement Grants (Lines 6.17–6.19): The council accepted and moved to formal session three grants from the Gilbert Family Foundation: $500,000 for Hass Emory Park (District 3), $400,000 for Eliza Howell Park (District 1), and $300,000 for Doris Park (District 3). Councilmember Galloway used each to request Gilbert Foundation support for the “People’s Fountain” at Palmer Park (District 2).
  • James E. Tate Center Programming (Line 6.12): A teeter report originally stated that programming at the center would be managed by Council President Pro Tem Tate’s office. The administration corrected the language to clarify that the Recreation Department manages programming, while council offices may provide input on community needs. Councilmember Benson warned against blurring the line between legislative and executive branches.

Key Outcomes

  • Public comment closed after seven virtual callers were heard.
  • All event petitions (Lines 6.1–6.7) approved to move to formal session: Renaissance High School Homecoming Parade (Oct 10), Wayne State TechTown Toast of the Town (Oct 10), Detroit City Sports Coalition 5K (Oct 12), IBEW Local 58 Veterans Day Celebration (Nov 9), Bedrock “Decked Out Detroit” activations (Oct 8–Jan 5), Ralph C. Wilson Park event (Oct 24–26), and Southwest Detroit Business Association Run of the Dead (Nov 1).
  • Most contracts (Lines 6.9–6.16) approved to move to formal session, except Line 6.8 which was held for one week.
  • Line 6.8 (Suburban Ford contract) held for one week to allow further questioning of the administration and the lowest bidder, Carrie Brothers.
  • Three Gilbert Family Foundation park grants (Lines 6.17–6.19) approved to move to formal session.
  • Member reports closed, with Councilmember Benson noting a successful housing fair at Lasky Recreation Center, attended by nearly 200 residents, with translation services for Yemeni and Bengali communities.

Meeting Transcript

Presentation in this article, he proposes a tax cut for married couples to move into the city. And uh we looked online so there's wonderful tax cuts for homeownership, there's but there's uh the uh down payment assistance, there's renaissance zones, but this is one area that we think we want to propose legislation for to uh give tax incentives for uh married couples to move into the city, which will help uh stimulate uh uh stability, help kids see fathers in the neighborhood, and that would help uh resolve the problem of neighborhood uh fatherlessness, improve neighborhoods, and so that's why we're here today to propose that piece of legislation that you take that up. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Um, and we will now move on to Mr. Reverend Rodney Hamilton. Two minutes. Thank you. Um thank you for this opportunity. Um I'm Reverend Rodney Hamilton, I'm the senior pastor of Mount Lebanon Missionary Baptist Church. Our church is located at 13925 Linwood Street, Detroit, Michigan. We're at the corner of Linwood in Open Court, four blocks north of Davidson. Amen. Um as you can see, me and Reverend Cosbo, we have come together, you know, we're trying to do things as a for for the community as a church, which you don't see much anymore. And we had our first uh community family and friends day on May 25th, and it was, you know, we brought all the community in and we just let the community know that we're as a church we're there if they need them, if they need them, because most times people are looking for a church home, they're looking for a place to fellowship and communicate and they don't really have one. So we were letting the community in the neighborhood know that we're here in the neighborhood for them. And we also had a vacation Bible school and global journeys day, and we dealt with, you know, we talked to children about Africa and Japan and different countries, and we did that on July 19th. And you know, we're just doing different projects in the community and in the neighborhood to let the neighborhood and community know that we're there. And also we um just coming to the city council because we want them to know any projects or anything that we can get involved in to help either further this, you know, we would gladly appreciate it. So we thank you for your time. Excellent. Thank you, sir. We appreciate that. Appreciate that idea. Look forward to talking. Uh chair recognized the Vice Chairman Galloway. Thank you. Thank you so much, Mr. Chair, and good afternoon, everyone. I was just listening to uh PED uh about 30 minutes ago and one of my colleagues uh mentioned um not so long ago, maybe a year or so ago, there were four of us who met with the administration, um, i.e. the mayor, regarding nonprofits and churches being able to get properties, um redevelop those properties, rehab those properties and um get land to build affordable housing. I'm all in support of that. Um want people to move into the city, but I want to also um reward if we can folks who stayed in the city. Um it's good that we want to attract people to move into the city, but I think we should also use that same energy and um passion for those who have remained in the city, like myself and uh my family. So um I definitely would want to um um make sure that we don't neglect or overlook those families who are already here and get nothing um but a lot of grief and no relief because we paid the highest property taxes in the nation, and not a lot of people want to move into the city to pay those high property taxes. So I get the deep cuts, but the deep cuts need to start right now with those of us who've stuck and stayed in this city and didn't move out because of the property taxes, didn't move out because of the educational system, didn't move out because of poverty, didn't move out because of unemployment, didn't move out because of crime. We stuck and stayed since the 50s and the 40s. We've been here. And so um any deep property tax cuts to be talked about, we're gonna start right with those families who are already here who stuck and stayed, and um put up with a less than stellar education system and education experience and struggle when they get in college, some of them, not all of them. Um so I appreciate this, but I also want to make sure that we don't overlook those families who are here, and a lot of them are headed by single women. Um, and so I definitely will support anything that includes those black women who are single mothers doing it every day. So I I could not support anything that does not include them. If there's gonna be some property tax cuts, deep cuts is gonna be for them as well. Thank you, madam chair, Mr. Chair, and thank you, sir, for your No, thank you. I appreciate I and I appreciate the work that you that you guys are doing. I I I I just want to make it clear though, I think um a lot of this has to do with the drug war and the prison policy that has decimated the black community, and I think that's why 33% of the prison population is black, and a lot of that is because of we're talking about where the fathers, a lot of them are in prison. But I want to be clear. Um you talk about black fathers that are not married to their significant other, that's when you see the fatherlessness drop to 45%. But we talk about black fathers that either cohabitate or don't cohabitate, but are involved with their children, that number goes from 45% to 77%.

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