Good morning, everyone.

I would like to call to order our public health and safety standing committee for today, Monday, October 6th, 2025.

May the clerk please call the roll.

Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero.

Present.

Councilmember Scott Benson.

Councilmember Mary Waters.

Madam Chair, you have a quorum present.

Thank you, Madam Clerk.

Given a quorum.

We'll go right into the agenda for today.

I believe we've received our minutes from our last session.

If there is a motion to approve.

Hearing no objections, our minutes from our last session will be approved.

I just got noticed that Zoom is muted for some folks.

I do see that the it looks like the closed captioning is working, or maybe it's not.

Oh, it seems to be working now.

So I will continue noting that I do see cloak's captions, closed captions working now.

Steph, let me know if you can't hear us just yet.

Given the approval of our minutes for last week, uh move us along to the rest of the agenda.

Today we have a combined agenda.

Uh so we have um some more items than usual.

I will be giving everyone a minute and a half for public comment this morning.

We have an introduction of an ordinance that we will be bringing back for full discussion.

Uh we can have, depending on how many folks we have that day, um, some more time or another opportunity to share more thoughts regarding said ordinance.

Uh, but other than that, sounds like we are good to go.

We can go right into public comment for this morning.

If you are online and you would like to make public comments, please raise your hands now.

I will be cutting off public comment at 10.07.

So folks have two minutes to raise your hands.

If anybody's here for public comment, please raise your hand.

I see two folks, three, two, one.

Thank you.

Uh person that is here in person.

If you wouldn't mind joining us up front to join us for public comments, we will change your time to a minute and a half online.

Just want to make sure that we can be heard as well.

Yes, all right.

We are all set.

Again, if you're online, raise your hands now, and we will begin with the folks that we have here in person.

I believe we have one person, Eden, if I'm not mistaken.

Eden Bloom.

Hello.

If you wouldn't mind uh sitting your name, uh, and if you're here with an organization for the public, and you can go begin with your public comment.

Yes, uh good morning.

My name is Eden Bloom.

Um I'm not speaking on behalf of any organizations this morning.

This is a comment about the air quality in my around my family's home and about the AVITUS uh memo that's up that from Letitia from Councilmember Letitia Johnson.

That's 5.14.

Uh before the AVITIS fire on June 30th, our neighborhood was often blanketed with a rotten egg smell that made it hard to be outside.

We called Eagle and even DT many times, thinking it was a gas leak.

These odors have been around for years and strong enough to ruin cookouts and Sunday gatherings since the fire, other than wildlife smoke and the hints of Fabrizio Lays Paint fumes from Stalantis.

The air quality is actually seemed cleaner.

That tells me something serious changed when a Vita stopped operating after the fire.

For the first time in years, our family's been able to spend time outdoors without being overwhelmed by the stench.

Eagle's own records show 59 air complaint investigations since 2020 connected to a Vetus and an inspection just weeks before the fire found three violations, exposed waste, overflowing containment, and missing transporter paperwork.

They aren't small mistakes.

They're a show of pattern of the gut of neglect, and the fire was not an isolated accident.

It was a warning.

Stronger emergency alerts and elected officials that will protect people instead of green lighting over polluters.

We deserve clean air and a peace of mind, not another disaster waiting to happen.

Please hold Vetus and any companies like it accountable before they restart anything.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you for coming down and for sharing that with us.

We will uh discuss that later on in the agenda today.

Thank you.

I do appreciate when folks come down.

We are now going to cut off public comments.

It is 10.08, and we are going to turn it over to the folks that we have online.

I believe Stephanie is going to help us with this portion.

I'll turn it over to you.

How many hands do we have raised and who do we have first?

Good morning, madam chair.

I hope you can hear me okay.

We have 12 attendees online.

Yes, sir.

Our first our first caller is Owner Papa.

I believe Miss Carolyn Hughes, you are up next.

Good morning, and through the chair.

Yes, Carolyn Hughes.

May I be heard?

Yes, good morning.

Good morning.

On tomorrow's gent agenda, you have 6.2, which is more economic lynching of the majority Negro population by taking our property tax increase surplus.

After admitting you, the government has overtaxed mostly Negro residents, almost a billion dollars.

That's 600 million plus interest.

You have the unmitigated gall to ask us to give our hard-earned money from property taxes to a corporations, white men corporations.

After the press, the mayor, the council have taunted all of this business success, but now we know you all lied.

They have a shortfall that this government, mayor, and council want us to feel this and you are devilish.

You're absolutely right.

And so are your plans.

Peace.

Thank you, ma'am.

And if I'm not mistaken, I'm not sure who has more information about this, but I'm pretty sure that we are short on our corporate taxes because they are getting tax breaks from the federal governments.

If I'm not mistaken, someone please correct me.

But that is my understanding that this is how trickle down works.

Uh, when we are cutting and providing corporations and billionaires tax breaks, we are the ones that have to front it.

Um, so please, if anyone from the administration can come during public comments from our OCFO's office.

I sit on um BFA and we've discussed this, but that was my understanding uh that because of decisions of certain politicians at the federal level.

Now we are being impacted here locally.

Um that does not mean that I support the proposal in front of us.

I'm still uh thinking through it, uh, but this is the consequences of elections.

This is uh quite frankly, the consequence of having Trump um as our presidents um and Republicans in Congress right now.

Um not serving the majority of people serving corporations.

Who do we have next?

Our next caller is phone number ending in 169.

Phone number ending in 169.

You're gonna you're next.

Oh, hello, hello.

Can you guys hear me?

We can hear you, yes.

Okay, great.

Prayer.

Does prayer still work?

Thank you for praying for Brother Cunningham.

I just wanted to bring to your attention a quote by a properties.

It says to make a habit of two things to help or at least to do no harm.

Churches empowers that be, do not reharm, do not re-harm, do not reharm, less harm, please in guy's name.

Let your let your revenge happen naturally, not force.

Use your unity for bigger causes, not to hold cunning ham down.

Thank you.

Is that your public comment for this morning?

Yes.

All right.

Well, thank you, sir.

Have a blessed day.

Who do we have next?

Our next caller is Mr.

Cunningham.

Good morning, brother Cunningham.

313, 4449114.

313, 444, 9114.

313, 444, 9114.

We had a great ride along with lavish running in district three, please commissioner.

I endorse no candidate.

And we've done so many ride-alongs.

If you'd like to join us, please do so.

Um, I'm asking folks to pray in the Holy Spirit, chant, do what you do.

313 4449114 313 444 911 413 444 9114 we had a great ride along with lavish running in district three police commissioner I endorse no candidate and we've done so many ride alongside you'd like to join us please do so um um I'm asking folks to pray in the Holy Spirit chant do what you do um drink a lot of fluids for my name Cunningham into the atmosphere and my mom Cheryl Marie Lyons disabled registered nurse widow her legs don't work she has multiple sclerosis and she's in the nurse home she had a mile fall thank you for your prayers and support and I want you to chant and pray in the Holy Spirit if you can um it it is in the Kyoto so yeah shun y'all my son yellow my son my son is in the zone get on my son get on my son get on my mom that I'm some that I'm off your mother run in that thank you our next caller is Galaxy S22 Ultra Can you can I be heard yes you can okay uh the first caller hit the nail on the head over here where all these fumes what do you guys go do I've been fighting on the east side with this Christopher Platinum you guys know who I am big guy come down with a thick mush dad over here with Letitia Johnson though and all I keep hearing is we go do this we go do that but the fumes is all we inhale it they don't want to give us no more money over here they they the city don't want to let you get no loan because they're talking about Chrysler gave us 15000 what they should have did is bought us they bought this street out over here on Veneto and we wouldn't have this problem but the Christ have been fell in tested fell in tested the state find them we didn't get none of that money it went to the state we should have got it we the one in hell and everything what do you guys go do everybody's running for reelection you know I'm saying but we're not getting no help over here they won't let us take loans on our houses because they say we got 15,000 from Christ that's a bunch of bull cryster gave it to what the city didn't we gotta quit letting Duggan dictate over here he's leaving he done did his damage now he leaving I'm gonna see what the new uh mayor that's running that's getting an office while they speak it so well what we go do that's a bunch of crack sheffield been there 12 years everybody should have been in here fighting for these fumes over here y'all don't care they don't care about people thank you next caller is iPhone uh good morning to all within the sound of my voice I'm Betty A barner president of DeSoda Ellsworth Black Association advocating for my neighborhood and community uh if you would like to uh donate to our uh missions and goals to improve our community please go to Zell uh D S N Dog E D S M Boy A W E B S M Boy E L at Gmail dot com the again D as in dog E D S M boy A W E D S M Boy E L at Gmail.com if you are a senior living in your home or you know of a senior living in their home they need help so that they can stay in their home be safe and peace at peace please call 313 446 4444 313 446 4444 that's D triple A program there's a program you want to ask for the my choice waiver program that's MI Waiver program if you're not usually eligible for Medicaid this is the program for you you can earn up to 2900 a month and be eligible for Medicaid get thank you always appreciate your advocacy thank you next caller is not that Karen hello yes hello yes good morning um I agree 100% with um Miss Carolyn Hughes 42 million dollars to plug a corporate tax uh issue makes no sense um especially since we can't seem to find the money be it federal or otherwise to help the city of Detroit retirees that have been affected for the last 12 years everybody knows trickle down government fail has failed and constantly fails us so to wait for something to trickle down majority of retirees will be dead before all the be uh before this money trickles down to our level so the city you guys need to do something

Carolyn Hughes.

42 million dollars to plug a corporate tax issue.

Makes no sense.

Especially since we can't seem to find the money, be it federal or otherwise, to help the city of Detroit retirees that have been affected for the last 12 years.

Everybody knows trickle-down government failed, has failed and constantly fails us.

So to wait for something to trickle down, majority of retirees would be dead before all the b uh before this money trickles down to our level.

So the city, you guys need to do something positive.

We don't need um a daggone fast track to put us in line for nothing.

We need our money back, and we need it back before we all uh die of old age.

Um winter is coming.

We need to try to do more for the homeless.

Uh instead of tearing down so many buildings, we brag about all the demolition, but we can't seem to brag about all the placement of housing for the less fortunate.

We have children dying in casino parking lots.

We need to consider that when we consider all these demolitions.

The money we've spent demolishing homes, we could have definitely saved a lot of homes and got a lot of the people off uh homeless children off the street.

Uh 600 million dollar over taxation.

We need that money back and retirees to the Detroit retirees need to be made whole.

We don't um, you know, we need to get from under that clawback.

Uh is at 6.7% interest.

You just pimping the the retirees, it doesn't make any sense.

Thank you for the 90 seconds.

Thank you.

Next is caller ending in 039.

Caller ending in 039.

You're up next.

Yeah.

Councilwoman Gabriella Santiago Romero.

I'm not gonna take debate.

I heard what you said last time.

Now I want you to pay close attention to this.

The angle and trajectory that the bullet that caused the injury responsible for the death of Kinesha Coleman cannot be achieved with either hand by a small frame individual with a nine millimeter weapon, the angle and trajectory.

Therefore, Venisha Coleman did not shoot herself, and I'm gonna tell you, Gabriela, Charmaine McLeod did it.

Now there it is.

And you all been cheating in elections.

You busted.

The rest of the city council busted, the mayor's busted, he's a cheated in mayor.

You are a TV then public official, Detroit City Council was cheated in the school board, the school board in the Board of Police Commissioners.

The next caller is Jadante Smith.

Good morning.

Um I just want to say, uh, can I be heard?

Yes, good morning.

Good morning.

I was gonna say you get a lot of undue hate, uh, Gabriella.

I'm gonna talk to a couple people about the hate that you get.

Um so a couple people I might be able to help you with.

I want to say also the East Community Summit.

We had all of the East Side City Council members except for Scott Benson.

Of course, she wouldn't show up.

Um, I'm not gonna use my time to bash black women, but I will say that there were a couple city sitting city council members who were lying uh at the debate about the land about the land bank, and it was not Mary Waters.

Mary Waters did an excellent job.

I also want to say we have more uh abandoned houses that are safe, unsafe, and and dangerous, just completely wide open in the city of Detroit than we should have.

We have houses that are next to kids that are next to schools that are all over, completely wide open, no windows boarded, no door frames, no nothing.

Anybody's able to do anything in those houses.

I feel like that's a big root of crime that we have in our city.

Um also want to say tomorrow I will have a very, very, very special presentation um about these abandoned homes.

Um, and the fact that I'm even reaching out to Tammy Daniels, city council members, and everybody else, and I'm not really getting as much help as I should have.

And I'm starting in district three to try to board up every abandoned house we have in City of Detroit.

And there's there's no there's not really enough help there.

I want to say there's a street called Gilbo.

Gilbo Alve in District Three off of Van Dyke, right by the solar field.

There are about 15 abandoned homes that are completely wide open, maybe on a demolition list, they're not boarded up.

We need to do something about that.

This should be important.

The next caller is William M.

Davis.

Good morning.

Can I be heard?

Yes, good morning.

I like to start off by saying I completely agree with everything, not that Karen's saying, uh, and that the city has done and continues to treat the city chart retirement horribly.

Uh the city continues to give money to millionaires and billionaires, but have not increased our pension check, have not restored our cost of living, have not stopped the annuity clawback, which 15.5% of our own savings that we put in that the city benefited from that apparently more than we have.

Also, you know, if the city was to help to restore the city of Church retirees, perhaps another one of the over 100 uh failures for Mike Doug and I see is the fact that City of Detroit property rate for children has gone up again at 51%.

That's unacceptable.

The choice children's property level is three times the national average.

You know, we continue to see continually to see more and more failures from this current administration.

And one of the failures is the fact that they do not care, especially for black and brown children.

You know, we should not be having so many problems that we do have.

We need a strong, effective mayor.

We need somebody in city council and the mayor's office to care about everybody.

Retirees, old people, children, and all.

Have a good day.

Bye.

Thank you, Mr.

Davis.

You as well.

Next, we have caller ending in one, two, four.

Caller ending one two four, you're next.

One, two, four.

If you're speaking, we cannot hear you.

Good morning.

Can you hear me?

We can hear you now.

Okay.

Well, I have serious concerns about the integrity of our elections.

It's most unfortunate that the internal operations committee won't investigate the lies told about me and to me by the election department.

Very disappointing when that's under your jurisdiction, Member Waters.

Also, everyone put it on blast alert.

The city's committing fraud and and and is trying to pass a massive change to the zoning ordinance that would facilitate gentrification and prevent people from going to the Board of Zoning Appeals.

And then if they do don't do things right to be able to go to circuit court.

This is massively wrong.

And uh anyone of you on council who votes for that, you before you do, you need to review the city planning commission meeting from last week, where there were blatant misrepresentations made, or the people just don't understand what they were talking about.

But Joshua Roberson, the head of the department neighborhood, that wouldn't respond to me uh hardly ever when he was the D5 manager told some blatant misrepresentation.

So either he didn't know what he was talking about, and that's incompetent, or he was making blatant misrepresentations.

Everybody watch out for this massive zoning change to facilitate more gentrification.

And these people don't care about us if they vote for this because they don't care about inclusive planning.

That's why demands for plan advisory.

Madam Chair, the last caller we have with their hand raised is Cecily McClellan.

Yes, thank you very much for this opportunity to speak.

Uh I'd like to let everyone know that the Detroit Lifeline Water Affordability Program or assistance program is no longer functioning and that the city of Detroit needs to codify into law through a uh council ordinance, a water affordability program.

The state of Michigan will be voting on a complete package for water affordability House Bill 455 on the uh the will be completed by the 15th.

It's imperative that the city residents support this bill for affordability for the state of Michigan, which will impact the uh the city of Detroit.

One way to do that is to go to the well coalition.org and take the plague or take the pledge through We the People of Detroit in support of a water affordability program.

We do not need shutoffs like we had back in 2014.

I would just like to go on the record as well is that the retirees need to be restored 100%.

We need to be restored uh with our 4.5% that was taken from all of us, our colour, uh, and particularly our clawback, which was 15.5%, which is causing many of the retirees to go into uh poverty.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Thank you to everyone that called in or came here in person for today for public comments.

And would just like to add uh to my comment.

I I said um that this uh issue of corporations getting taxes and the rest of us having to pay being an issue of the presidents and republicans.

Unfortunately, there are also many democrats um that vote in support of tax breaks for corporations that do not serve all.

Um so wanted to make that correction.

Moving us along now to unfinished business under unfinished business 5.1.

This is a memorandum regarding liquor store at 1440 courtravel.

We've been asked to bring this back in two weeks.

If there is a motion to do so, hearing no objections, 5.1 will be brought back in two weeks.

5.2 is a memo relative to request for resolution in support of House Bill 4362.

Without objection, this can be received and filed.

So 5.2 will be received and filed.

Thank you.

Hearing no objections, 5.2 will be received and filed.

5.3 is a memo regarding a resolution request proclaiming October as domestic violence awareness month.

If there's a motion to discuss, motion LPD.

Do we have um a timeline of when this will be completed?

I'm sorry, timeline of what?

Um no, I don't believe so.

For five, this is for 5.3.

This is recorded.

Let me check into it and if I can find anything out, I can get back to you.

Sorry.

Okay, no, all good.

So we can bring it back in two weeks, is what I heard.

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 5.3 will be brought back in two weeks.

54 5.4 is another memo relative to questions regarding DPD's training practices.

We have been asked to bring this back in two weeks.

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 5.4 will be brought back in two weeks.

5.5 and 5.6 are both health department contracts.

5.5.

This is contract number 600508 3 amendment number one.

This is to provide an increase of funds for program administrator coordinating and managing medical supportive services for low-income, underinsured, uninsured persons living with HIV in the Detroit Metro area.

The contractor is Deaf Community Advocacy Network.

They are in Sylvan Lake, Michigan.

5.6 is contract number 6005089, amendment number one.

100% grant funding for an increase of funds only for program administrator.

This will be contracted to community health awareness group.

They're located in Detroit.

I believe we had questions that were circulated to us, and we have received them.

We have no other questions on my end.

Not sure if there's any questions from my colleagues.

If not, is there a motion to approve 5.5 and 5.6?

Motion.

Motion to approve 5.5 and 5.6.

Hearing no objections.

Motion is into the new business.

5.5 and 5.6.

Hearing no objections will be sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

57 is to amend chapter 31 of the 2019 Detroit City Code Offenses Article 1 generally by amending sections 31-1 misdemeanor violation, continuing violation, penalties for conviction thereof, and by amending article 5 offenses against public peace by adding sections 31-5-21, use of smokeless tobacco, alternative nicotine products, and other tobacco products prohibited at stadiums or sports arenas to prohibit use of smokeless tobacco products, alternative nicotine products, and other tobacco products in stadiums or sports arenas in the city of Detroit.

This is for an introduction and setting of a public hearing.

If there's a motion to discuss, motion.

Thank you, Vice Chair to the law department.

They are not here.

Surely he will be here when this is up for full discussion at the public hearing.

Um and as is as I mentioned in the introduction, this is to ban smokeless tobacco and sports arenas.

Wonder if there's any more discussion or uh means of introductions for this before we move it out to formal for an introduction and setting up a public hearing.

Hearing none.

Is there a motion to send 5.7 to formal for an introduction and setting up a public hearing?

New business?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 5.7 would be sent to new business for an introduction and setting of a public hearing.

Moving us along.

5.8.

This is to amend to Chapter 26 of the 2019 Detroit City Code Law Enforcements by adding Article 5, release of incident footage to include sections 26-5-1 definitions, sections 26-5-2, required release of incident footage, manner of release duration, compilation permissible, sections 28-5-3, release timeline of incident footage, sections 26-5-4, exceptions to release of incidence footage, good faith effort to release sections 26-5-5, notice notice of affected parties and sections 40, excuse me, sections 26-5-6.

Legal process in order to foster government's transparency.

This too is for an introduction and setting up a public hearing.

This is being proposed by member Callaway's office.

Is there a motion to approve with discussion?

Uh motion.

Thank you, Vice Chair to the law departments.

Um if you wouldn't mind giving us a brief uh overview of 5.8.

I briefly I briefly introduce 5.7.

If you have more to add there, let us know.

We can open that for discussion, but if not, we can discuss that when it comes back.

But if you have anything for 5.8.

Through the Chair Graham Anderson Law Department, yes, for the DPD video release ordinance, um uh 26 uh 51 through 7.

Six.

Um what this lays out is uh it is the city shall publicly post all incident footage within a 30-day timeline.

Now I think it's important to highlight what we defined incident as in this ordinance.

An incident uh means any of the following.

Either when a Detroit police officer employee discharges their firearm in a manner that strikes or potentially could strike another individual, even if no alleged misconduct is made, when a Detroit police employee discharges a non-lethal weapon in a manner that strikes another individual that results in death or great bodily harm, or finally, when as a result of the use of force from a police officer, the death of or great bodily harm to a person occurs while the person is in police custody.

So this is not every incident under the sun.

It's those laid out in the ordinance.

Other things that are important to discuss is we've had numerous conversations and meetings with uh prosecutor Kim Worthy's office with DPD, both approve.

Um we have had uh lots of negotiations regarding is it gonna be 60 days, is it gonna be seven days?

Negotiations came to 30 days.

I know uh some advocates were hoping for a shorter timeline, um, but 30 days is still it it's major progress, and I think that's really what this needs to be looked at as a step forward.

Um there are some exceptions as well to this.

This this isn't um uh of course, you know, there's certain ongoing investigations as well.

There's a potential sensitivity.

So we we really um that this was a lot of effort that went into this.

Uh councilmember Calloway's office took uh a strong lead on this and um got as many uh chefs as necessary in the kitchen to cook this up.

Uh but it was uh not easy, but but we are here, and we look forward to uh having a more flushed out discussion at the public hearing.

All right, I thank you.

Appreciate that.

Um, and yes, this will be brought back for further discussion, more in-depth discussion.

We can share out when this will be as well to the public.

I know there's a lot of interest, um, so we will find this back in committee.

Um, vice chair.

Thank you.

Uh, what is the definition of great bodily harm?

Through the chair to council member Benson.

That is a fantastic question.

In this ordinance, we define great bodily harm means any injury that is serious enough to require treatment in a hospital or similar medical treatment facility.

So three stitches could be required at the hospital.

Is that great bodily harm?

Through the chair, depending on this ordinance or how this ordinance defines it, that could potentially be considered great bodily harm, yes.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Any other questions?

Hearing none.

Is there a motion to send five point eight to formal new business for a setting of a public hearing and introduction?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 5.8 will be sent to new business for an introduction and setting up a public hearing.

Thank you, member Calloway, to the law departments and to all the partners for working on this.

I know this is not easy.

It's much appreciated.

Uh, we will discuss more and see um if there's anything else we have to do.

But moving us along, five points nine.

This is a memo relative to questions on Detroit's ordinances and policies regarding the use of vape products.

Uh we have received information.

Member Waters, would you like to receive and file or discuss?

Uh receive and file.

I haven't I haven't read it yet, but I will.

So okay.

All right, 5.9 will be received and filed, hearing no objections.

5.10 and 5.11 are both recommendations for deferrals.

5.8 is a recommendation for deferral on property 5301 East Outer Drive.

And 5.11 is a recommendation of deferral for 5311 East Outer Drive.

Um, is there a motion to discuss or to concur with the recommendation?

Motion to concur.

Hearing no objections, 510 and 511 will be concurred by this body regarding the recommendation.

5.12 is a memo relative to child abduction broadcast act amendments.

We have received information as well.

This can be received and filed without objections.

5.12 will be received and filed.

Thank you, Member Waters.

513.

513, this is contract number three zero seven seven seven seven six.

This is a emergency demolition at 23241 Finkel.

Contractors inner city contracting, they're in Detroit's.

And this will be 106,777.

And this would be for construction and demolition.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 5.13?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 5.13 would be approved.

Send to formal with the recommendation to approve.

514 is a memo relative to concerns about AVI uh aviators, uh specialty services corporation.

This is being looked at right now, and we've been asked to bring this back in two weeks.

If there is a motion to do so, 5.14.

Thank you.

We'll be brought back in two weeks.

This brings us to new business under the Office of Contracting and Procurement.

6.1 and 6.2 are both B seed contracts.

6.1 is contract number 6004865.

This is amendment number two, all utilizing grant funding to provide an extension of time only for environmental remediation assessments, due care and environmental response activities to the Piety Hill neighborhood.

Contractor Central Detroit Christian CDC.

They're in Detroit.

This will be extended through August 26, 2026.

And again, this will be for B seed 6.2 is contract number 6004842.

Amendment number one utilizing the hundred percent city funding to provide environmental assessments and re remediation activities.

The contractors American Indian Health and Family Services.

This is going to extend their contract time through February 22nd, 2026.

Is there a motion to discuss or approve 6.1 and 6.2?

Motion to approve.

Thank you.

Is there a motion to send to new business?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 6.1 and 6.2 will be sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

And if anyone needs a local community health center, I go to the American Indian Health Family Center in Southwest and highly recommend.

Moving us along to 6.3.

6.3 through 6.26.

These are all going to be a variation of emergency demolitions and backfill and site restoration.

And this is a combination, as I mentioned, of two agendas.

So I ask for patients, please as I read through these contracts.

6.3.

This is contract number 3086342.

This is an emergency demo at 5101 tirement.

Contractors CS Environmental.

They're located in Detroit.

The total contract is 82,538.

And again, these will be for construction and demolition.

100% bond funding for emergency demo adds 8950.

Daddyus contractors, DMC consultants, they're located in Detroit.

This is 24,000 with 24 dollars.

Contractors inner city, they're located in Detroit, and this will be 38,100.

6345.

This is 100% blight funding for emergency demo at 2405 East McNichols for a commercial property.

The contractors inner city contracting, they're in Detroit for 86,500.

6.7 contract number 308 6346.

100% blight funding for emergency demo at commercial property 10545 East Canfield.

6.8 contract number 3086347.

100% bond funding for emergency commercial demo at 4709 Joy Road.

Contractor Celebine, they're in Detroit, and this will be for 24,931.

6.9 contract number 3087098.

100% blight funding for an emergency alteration at commercial property 17886 de Quinder.

Contractors inner city, and this will be for 76,630 with 56 cents.

6.10 contract number 30865.

100% bond funding for emergency demo at 3115 Chalmers.

Contractors CS Environmental Services.

This is for $16,000.

6.11, contract number 3087171.

100% blight funding for commercial property demo at 11811 French.

Contractor CS Environmental Services.

This is for 58,978.

6.12 contract number 3087242.

100% bond funding emergency demo at 778 Phillip.

Contractors inner city inner city for 28,765.

6.13.

This is contract number 308.

6667.

100% bond funding for emergency demo at 19447 Albany.

Contractor is CS Environmental.

This is for $16,088.

614, contract number 308-6691, 100% bond funding for emergency demo at 1970 Winthrop.

Contractor CS Environmental.

This is for 16,999.

6.15, contract number 3086508.

100% blight funding to provide Jersey barriers and backfill for commercial emergency at 8571 Jefferson.

This is to keep debris from falling into the Rouge River.

Contractor Celebine trucking and excavating.

This is for 5,682 with 56 cents.

6.16 contract number 3086702.

100% bond funding to provide emergency demo at 8257 Dobo.

Contractor C S environmental, this is 16,604.

100% blight funding to provide emergency alteration for commercial property.

Contractor is a Domo.

A Damo.

I think Domo's a food.

Uh a Damo.

This will be for $61,700.

6.18.

This is contract number 3086707.

100% bond funding to provide emergency demolition at 1943 McCormick.

Contractors CS Environmental.

This is 17,443.

6.19, contract number 3086710.

100% bond funding for emergency demo at one three nine three nine manor.

CS Environmentals, the contractor for 17,361.

6.20.

Contract number 3086714, 100% bond funding.

Emergency demo at 2020 for Cardoni.

DMC consultants is the contractor for 16,200.

6.21 contract number 3087016, 100% splite funding for emergency backfill for commercial property.

Inner city contracting is the contractor for 41,890.

6.22, contract number 3087034.

100% bond funding for emergency demolition at 1936 Ashton.

DMC Consultants is the contractor for 16,300.

6.23.

At 3181, Littisdale, contractors, DMC consultants, this is for 17,100.

6.24 contract number 3087036.

100% blight funding for emergency backfill and site restoration at commercial property 727 Connor.

Contractor Celibing Trucking and Excavating.

This is for 24,900.

6.25, contract number 3087155.

100% splite funding for emergency demolition at 247 fortune.

Contractors inner city contracting.

This is for 18,400.

In 6.26, this is contract number 3087156.

100% blight funding for emergency demolition at 1553 Military AK Garage.

This is for 11,900.

Is there a motion to discuss or approve 6.3 through 6.26?

Motion to approve.

Motion to approve hearing, no objection.

6.3 through 6.26 will be approved.

Sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

6.27.

This item can be removed.

This is an item that we voted that we walked on to formal session last week and we voted for.

Thank you.

Do yourself to the administration.

Can somebody come online and discuss the funding sources?

A number of these demolition contracts have mixed sources.

One bond funding or one blight funding.

With our bond funding.

To Mr.

Washington.

Good morning.

If we can move over as a panelist.

Thank you.

Good morning.

Good morning, Luan Counts, Group Executive Construction and Building Operations.

Thank you for joining us.

Were you able to hear our vice chair's question?

Um I heard part of the I'm sorry, through the chair, I heard part of the question.

I heard the statement portion, but I did not hear the question.

I'm sorry.

No worries, Vice Chair.

Thank you.

Uh Ms.

Cowns, a number of these emergency demolition contracts have mixed funding sources, either bond funding or blight funding.

Can you just briefly explain the difference between the two?

And then where do we stand with our bond funding?

Through the chair, the difference between let's start with the difference between blight and bond.

So bond funding is in this instance is prop in.

So prop in was the 250 million dollar initiative that the voters approved of that we were executing residential demolitions for.

So that's where the 8,000 um residential demos were funded out of, as well as the securing from that particular bond funding.

Blight funding is general fund and the the general fund portion that is surplus.

So while other departments are factored in during the actual budget process, um the cat the construction and demolitions blight funding budget is only funding with surplus.

So dollars after everyone has been assigned their funds.

Um and so when we have commercial demos because we are out of commercial emergencies, um residential emergencies have previously been funded out of general funds or blight dollars.

Um when we had the proposal in dollars available, we would use the proposal in dollars to fund the residentials because it was it was it was funds that was meant for residential demolition.

Um and so rather than hit the general fund for the emergency demos, we took them from the blight.

I mean sorry, from the bond.

Um, but we have we're we're quickly to the end of the bond funding.

We're down to less than um less than two million.

I am waiting for the actual confirmed amount, um, but we're down to less than two million, and we will start to transition our emergency demos from the blonde to back to blight funding.

Um, the commercials have already seen that shift.

Okay, thank you.

And just doing some quick numbers, do we are you budgeting maybe a hundred homes out of the two million dollars?

Maybe I'd have to do the math myself.

Um, I can tell you historically we we range anywhere between 250 to a little over 300 emergency demos a year on the residential side.

Um, not capturing commercials.

Um, so for an annual kind of guess, that's kind of where we're at.

Okay.

And then once we extinguish these bond funds, we're gonna be back to the general fund for our demolitions.

And so I I would just anticipate that we're going to sleep see a slowdown on the number of homes that the city can fund, which would put us sounds like back to pre-20 maybe 16 levels when we didn't see a lot of activity when it came to residential demolition just based on the vagaries of the city of Detroit's budget, and now that we're seeing a re proposed reduction or anticipated reduction in that budget, I'm not optimistic that we're going to be able to continue these levels of residential or even commercial demolition.

Is that an accurate statement?

Or it's partially um, we also don't have the inventory like we used to.

Okay.

Um, so while we won't be executing as many demos, the the need is not as great as it was in 2016 and 2014.

Um, during those those years, we were in tens of thousands of demo needed um properties.

Now we are under a thousand, um, well under a thousand total need for demolition.

Um, and we are executing those with their balance of the property and dollars.

Um, but then moving forward, we will need to continue to execute our emergencies.

And while we have historically estimated 250 to 300, because we took care of the 8,000 with proposal in, there's going to be a reduction in those as well.

We just don't know what that number is going to be just yet, um, but we anticipate that number going down.

Our intent is to continue to um streamline our process on our side so that we can continue to do those maintenance demos um so that we don't stockpile them and have a repeat of the need for proposal in.

Okay, and you say maintenance demos.

What do you mean by that?

Um, I'm calling the emergencies, the maintenance demos.

Okay.

Um, a lot of those those properties in the past were not being managed, and so they they piled up, they stockpiled.

Do you have a proposed budget or an estimate on what the annual need will be financially for the maintenance of blighted and abandoned properties for demolition and securing?

Through the chair, not at this time.

We we've just actually began preparing that those budget um numbers for budget.

Um, and we probably would have a better idea in the coming weeks.

Okay.

Uh as a member of this committee, I'd like to see those numbers once you start once you arrive at them, just so we can have an idea based on the work that we do here on what we should anticipate and what future committee members uh should anticipate as well for that.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Vice Chair Greed.

Member Waters.

Oh, I just have a quick question, and you may or may not have this answer, but where are we on collections as it relates to especially when it comes to the commercial properties that we've demolished?

Through the chair, I don't have an update on where we currently are.

The last update, we were a little under two million received.

Um, but we can definitely provide that update to your to your office.

And so does that the does those dollars will they return so that you can use them for for other things?

What is that money going?

Through the chair, when when those funds are recovered, they go to the general fund.

So they're they're not department specific.

Sure.

Okay.

But I but I suppose even if they're in the general fund, um, so what I was trying to find out is whether or not they can be, of course, reused uh by your department if they should decide.

Absolutely through the chair, if they're if they're allocated to the department, yes.

Okay.

Next law department law through the chair Graham Anderson Law Department.

Yes, they should be able to, but I I'm not sure.

Um, I think it depends on the administration priorities.

I can't speak to that right now.

All right, LPD, do you concur?

I concur that I can't say right now for the study.

I I just want us to make sure that we we're working to collect those dollars.

That's a lot of money.

Uh and you know, with those uh commercial properties in particular.

Uh residential, they may or may not be able to pay, but commercial should be, or we should be owning that land.

Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you, Member Waters.

And thank you to our group exact.

I don't think we have any other questions for six points 28 and 6.29.

Is there a motion to approve?

Oh, there was a motion by member Benson.

Are there any objections?

Hearing no objections, 6.28 and 6.29 will be approved, sense of formal with the recommendation to approve.

Moving us along, 6.30 and 6.31 are police contracts, 6.30.

Contract number 6007061, 100% city funding to provide maintenance and support services for Detroit police and homeland securities for Barco video walls, back end devices, and associated equipment.

Contractors, Blue Water Technologies, they are located in Wixum.

This would be for three years at 81,281.

And 6.31 is contract number 6007150, 100% city funding to provide a cloud-based solution to manage the DPD secondary employment scheduling program.

Contractors were roll calls technologies, they're located in Texas.

This is a five-year contract at 300,000.

Is there a motion to discuss and with approve with discussion 6.30 and 6.31?

Motion to approve.

Mr.

Washington, do we have someone from DPD that can share?

Yes, for the chair.

We do have Alisa Mulillo as well as Valencia Laura.

If we can make them both into panelists, hello, good morning.

Yes.

Yes, my apologies.

Um for this item, we have Robert Millander for 6 30 and 6 31.

Yes.

Okay.

If we can make them into a panelist.

I don't see um Mr.

Millander.

Do we have Lieutenant Lisa Porter online?

I do see that individual.

I can recommend them.

If we have the lieutenant, if we can make her into a panelist.

Thank you.

Um good morning.

We cannot see you if your video is on, but we can hear you.

Thank you for joining us.

Uh, we are discussing 6.30 and 6.31.

6.30 is regarding the maintenance and support services.

Um this is a three-year contract.

Wondering if you can let us know what issues are currently associated.

Um, at the public safety headquarters, if you can just let us know what we can expect the next three years.

Um, and not only the expectation, but can you let us know if you expect to extend this contract or just address the issues and be done with the contract?

Uh, through the chair, and we can quarter I am here in regards to the secondary employment program.

I think Mr.

Miller uh handles the other contracts.

Okay, no worries.

Then if you wouldn't mind uh also is sharing a little bit about the secondary employment scheduling program.

Uh this is a five-year contract, I believe.

Um, what would also like to know if this is going to be something that we continue on or something that we're um providing now, uh purchasing now to support your work, if you wouldn't mind sharing more information regarding 6.31.

So the secondary employment program is a program um that provides all duty employment opportunities for the police department offices to work with vacancies in the city of the soil.

Um, it provide uh professional professional compliance and effectively uh to support a city.

Um the city police department has selected this contract to provide the system, which will provide a comprehensive third-party all-city management process for the secondary employment unit.

Um, this system will streamline the secondary employment staffing, provide necessary transparency, ensure that the Detroit Police Department policy uh in compliance, it will facilitate invoices and team into the secondary employment um unit.

Um, administrators will be able to use the system to monitor secondary employees and implement control according to the Detroit Police Department policies, example, limit hours to which the office can work, um, eligibility for certain jobs based on seniority.

Um the system has the capability to generate relevant reports that can be exported to appropriate environments, um, which are vital to evaluate and subject and financial sustainability of the program.

Uh the secondary employment program uh the operating cost of the secondary employment employment program has been funded through the collection of administrative fees and vehicle usage fees, secondary employment employers are charged an administrative fee of two dollars per hour work by participating members and employees that also charge a $50 usage fee for market vehicle.

Um the operating cost of the secondary employment program has been funded to the collection of administrative fees and usage fee secondary employment employees are an administrative fee of two dollars per hour work by technically members and employees are also charged a $50 usage for market vehicle total administrative and vehicle usage key collected from secondary employment employees in 2024 or 477,206 and 26 cents, which was approximately an increase of 69,597 dollars from the previous year.

Thank you.

I appreciate that.

Um, and we have seen this come before us, uh, but this is a five-year contract.

So I appreciate um hearing how you expect to use this moving forward.

I see Mr.

Millinder's here in person if you wouldn't mind joining us up here at the front of the stage, and then sharing with us a little bit around about 6.30, what we can expect as far as maintenance.

Um, and again, the microphone make sure it's turned on and that you introduce yourself for the public.

Um, good morning, sorry for my tardiness.

My name is Robert Millennium, director of public safety IT.

Thank you for joining us.

So for 6.3, we're doing the maintenance and supportive services.

This is for three years.

Do we expect to address curtain issues?

Um, be done with the contract, or you can you just explain to us what the maintenance and support services look like.

I mean, the idea behind it as you know right now, we have four home, four real-time crime centers around the city of Detroit, and all of them have wall monitors and all that stuff.

So the expectation is to maintain issues and repairs of those monitors and screens and systems behind it.

Right now, I believe in a real-time crime center.

We have three, and then one at Linden.

We have three minors set it down right now.

So the system and this contract could help us replace that as well as ongoing maintenance and issues we may have with the system.

Okay, thank you.

Um, hearing no other questions, and you mentioned this is gonna be for all four of the the sites that we have.

The maintain this will be all four of our systems, as well as if any new systems come on board, we might come back for an amendment to it.

The idea behind it is is that as we put in these systems, as that as I've seen, one thing I've seen in my user to see that we've lacked that one thing about maintaining these systems.

That's why we put these types of contracts in place for ongoing maintenance and ongoing support of these systems.

Do we have the internal support?

Do we should we grow the internal support?

What do you think is better to do these third-party contracts or have something in-house?

We have the internal support, but also you have to send it to hardware.

I have the internal, we have the internal knowledge and intelligence to do this, but we also have to have the hardware as well as software upgrades and all that stuff.

And this contract covers that as well.

So we have the internal support to maintain a system like this, but we also have to go out to A issues that may go beyond the expertise of my internal support system, as well as for the software upgrades and that stuff that comes with a contract like this and hardware maintenance.

Because the problem you have is having this stuff on site.

If I had a monitor break, I had one to go up there and replace the warranty comes out on those minors, so it's much better to have a company bring those in because you want you play a game about how many do you have on site to maintain compared to that.

So it's much better to have a company maintain that and bring it in for us.

Okay, and then you'll have a latest software updates.

Software updates and all that's part of this contract that's there, and we always need that.

Okay, I'm just I forgot to say through the chair.

I apologize.

All good.

No, you're okay, Mr.

Millander.

I appreciate that.

Okay, thank you.

Um, hearing no other questions, there was a motion to approve.

Hearing no objections, 6.30 and 6.31 will be sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

Thank you both.

I appreciate it.

Thank you.

You two moving us along, 6.32.

This can also be removed.

We also voted on this formal session last week.

If there's a motion to do so, hearing no objections 6.32 will be removed from our agenda.

6.33 and 6.34 are both public works contracts, 6.33.

Contract number 6006438 amendment number one, 100% major three funding to provide an increase of funds only for botanomous resurfacing of class C streets at various locations.

Contractors Fort Wayne contracting and Ajax paving.

This is a joint venture that are located in Detroit.

This is for an increased amounts of 1,200, excuse me, $1,025,149 with 34 cents.

And 6.34 is contract number 6006510 amendment number one, 100% three funding to provide increase of time only for cold patch asphalt.

The contractor is Cadillac asphalt in Detroit.

This contract will be extended through September 24th, 2026.

Is there a motion to approve 6.33 and 6.34?

Motion discussion.

Discussion, Vice Chair.

Discussion on 6.34, just looking at this contract has expired.

Just curious as to why it wasn't brought earlier prior to his expiration.

Mr.

Washington, who do we have to discuss?

We do have Director Brundage on our if we can make them into a panelist.

Thank you.

Good morning, Madam Chair.

Hello, good morning.

Thank you for joining us.

We are discussing, or there's a question for you for 6.34.

Um, the contract has expired.

We're seeing this now, wondering why this was not brought to us uh before the expiration.

Um I can only speculate that um there maybe there was a delay in terms of getting all of the necessary documents to procurement, including uh insurance and bonding requirements.

Uh I can say that uh we haven't ordered any additional material after the contract originally expired on September 24th of this year.

Uh we do have an inventory of material uh in place uh that we'll utilize until uh the amendment or the additional time is added to the contract, but uh as relates to why this uh this amendment wasn't put in front of your body uh before the September 20 uh for uh expiration date.

Uh I can only speculate as to why they're doing the car.

Vice Chair.

No, that's enough.

It's probably better suited for um the kind the uh contract and procurement offices anyway.

That's fine.

Thank you.

All right, hearing no other questions.

There was a motion to approve 6.33 and 6.34, hearing no objections, both will be approved, sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

6.35 is contract number 6006396, 100% grant funding to provide for electric buses, EV charging infrastructure training and associated tools and parts, contractors new flyer of America.

They're located in Minnissippi.

They are located in Minnesota, and this is a five-year contract for 9,070 8,101 with 88 cents, and this will be for transportation.

Is there a motion to approve with discussion 6.35?

Motion.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Mr.

Washington, who do we have to discuss?

Hi, through the chair.

We do have um Pam Crumb from procurement.

If we can please move her over as a panelist.

Discussion.

Vice Chair.

Uh Madam Chair, can we also request someone from transportation who can speak to this grant be here as well?

Mr.

Washington, do we have anyone from transportation?

Yes, through the chair, I'm on the phone with D dot now.

Um, someone should be joining momentarily.

Thank you.

Let us know.

Because my question is for transportation, it's more timeline.

Implementation process where we are.

And if you would like, Mr.

Washington, we can bring this back until the end of the agenda.

Yes, we can bring this back at the end.

Without objection, hearing no objection, six point thirty-five will be brought back to the end of the agenda.

Moving us along, six points.

No, under the law departments.

Yes, 6.36.

This is an ordinance to amend chapter 26 of the 2019 Detroit City Code.

Law enforcement by renaming article three to citizens patrols and dividing the article into two divisions.

Division one being citizen radio patrol assistance program containing sections 26-3-1, established sections 26-3-2, administration sections 26-3-3, form of assistance, sections 26-3-4, eligible expenditures, sections 26-3-5, allocation of assistance, new citizen rodeo patrols, sections 26-3-6, conditions of assistance, sections 26-3-7, violations and conditions of assistance and sections 26-3-8.

No city supervision and division two being citizen neighborhood blight patrol containing sections 26-3-21.

Established purpose, sections 26-3-22.

Administration sections 26-6-23, eligible expenditures and form of assistance, sections 26-3-24.

Allocation of assistance, new blight patrols, sections 26-3-25.

Condition of assistance, sections 26-3-26.

Patrol membership qualifications, sections 26-3-27.

Patrol and reporting, sections 26-3-28.

Patrol conduct rules and sections 26-3-29.

No city supervision to provide for citizen neighborhood blight patrol.

This is for an introduction and setting of a public hearing.

Is there a motion to send to new business or is there a discussion for 6.36?

Motion is in the new business discussion.

Vice Chair.

Thank you.

Do yourself to the law department.

Is that same provision allotted for the blight patrols as well?

Through the chair to Councilmember Benson.

I know there was the goal of reimbursement for gas mileage.

Yeah, it's a desire.

Absolutely.

I'm sure that would not be difficult.

I'm sure Councilmember Calloway would be in favor of that.

I'll reach out to the office.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

To the law departments.

Wondering if we are we doing anything new?

It sounds like there might be a kind of a fiscal impact.

Do we have an a fiscal impact coming for this ordinance?

Through the chair, I'm not sure if a fiscal impact study has been done yet.

Um I've been advised $50,000 was allocated back in spring.

That's true.

Um for this uh specific purpose.

Um, and if I could get into the specific purpose of this, is it's to establish a new program to engage citizens and identifying blight in their neighborhoods.

Um this is something that uh they would not have police supervision, it would be community-led, it would um enhance citizen engagement and public safety without imposing duties on patrols or city resources.

Um so that's kind of part of the reason too that this we're hoping this isn't you know a big fiscal impact as well outside of that $50,000 allocated to it.

Um from from what I've been told there there's uh great enthusiasm for volunteers already very interested in uh participating in this so they can start identifying blight in their community and we can uh make an effort to resolve it.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Yeah, I would say that a lot of members are already a part of blight patrols, they're just not given the supports uh or the guidance needed uh to work with us.

Uh so just a few more questions.

Will there be training?

Um will that come from the police or will that be coming from the community?

Through the chair, the um eligibility um and training, I believe would come through excuse me, uh, through the police department.

Okay, and we can go more once we bring this to um to committee.

Um the last thing that I will ask is oftentimes the public will be asking us for fiscal impact studies for any ordinance we get passed.

Um, so I think we should ask for one now to get that out the way so that we move this out uh without any delay.

Motion.

Thank you.

There's a motion to conduct a fiscal impact study for the citizens patrol ordinance.

Thank you, Vice Chair, thank you, LPD.

Um, I'm sure they can work with the law departments to get that to us in the OCFO's office.

Other than that, this is exciting.

I have no other questions.

There was a motion to send this.

Was there a motion to send to new business?

Motion hearing no objections, 6.36 will be sent to new business for an introduction and setting up a public hearing, and we should expect um a fiscal impact study as well.

Moving us along to the department of appeals and hearings, six points thirty seven and six point thirty-eight are dangerous buildings findings and orders.

Is for September 12th, 2025.

Is there a motion to receive and file?

Motion Hearing no objections, 6.37 and 6.38 will be received and filed under the building safety engineering environmental department 6.39 is a recommendation of deferral for 3204 Gladstone.

Is there a motion to concur?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, we will concur with 6.39.

Under the Office of Chief Financial Officer, Office of Development and Grants, 6.40 and 6.41, both various grants, 6.40 is a behavioral health grant for fiscal year 2025.41 is a grant application to the U.S.

Department of Homeland Security for the port security grant.

Is there a motion to approve to new business?

And 6.41 would be approved sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

Under the legislative policy division LPD.

6.42 is a report relative to the fix our flooded basements act.

This can be received and filed.

Hearing no objections, 6.42 would be received and filed.

6.43 is a resolution in support of Senate Bill 479 and House Bill 4742.

The protecting overburdened communities act.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss?

Motion to approve.

Hearing no objections, 6.43 will be approved.

Is there a motion to send to new business?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 6.43 will be sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

Vice Chair.

Can this a brief description of what the overburdened communities act is?

We often approve these with the underlying acts, but people really don't know what those mean.

Thank you, Vice Chair, and he is correct.

This is regarding protecting communities that are often black and brown, low income that are dealing with polluted industries around our residential areas.

So thank you both.

There was a this has been sent to new business with a recommendation to approve.

6.44 is a resolution supporting the establishment of a vulnerable adults medical alert system.

This has been attached.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss?

6.44.

Motion to approve.

Hearing no objections, 6.44 will be approved.

Sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

And this is as it sounds to make sure there is a medical alert system for our vulnerable adults.

Under the Department of Public Works, 6.45 and 6.46.

6.45 is a petition of Live Six Alliance to hang approximately 100 banners from McNichols Livernoy down to Greenlawn.

6.46 is a resolution to permit the Detroit Parks Coalition to install 45 banners.

And this will be commemorating the centennial year of Rouge Park.

Is there a motion to discuss or approve?

6.45 and 6.46.

Motion to approve.

Hearing no objections, both of the items 645 and 646 will be approved, sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

Under the Departments of Public Work, City Engineering Division.47 through 6.55 are all various easements vacation requests.47 petition of Kevin and Carmen requesting to vacate with the reservation of utility easements.

The portion of the public alley.

This will vacate and convert a private easements for public utilities.48 to petition of DTE Electric to request an outright vacation of the alley bounded by Lemon Place and Rapel Streets.

6.49, a petition of Michael E.

Williams requesting to renew the temporary closure of Borguess Streets for a period of five years.

Between the public alley, this will be for an installation of telecommunications handhole.

6.51, a petition of the Brewster Wheeler Housing Association for an outright vacation.

This will allow for utility easements.

Um and a fence.53 petition of perfecting church requesting a vacation with reserve for utility easements.

This would be for the public alley.

Uh at 210 East Butteen, and this would be for the installation of brim parking and parallel parking spaces.55 petition of merchants row requesting for various encroachments within the westernly part of Woodward Avenue.

This will be for an installation of on sites.

Mounted wall sign, mounted blade sign.

And those are all of our requests for easements and encroachments.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss six points twenty excuse me, six points forty-seven through six point fifty five?

Motion, discussion.

Discussion, vice chair.

Uh, this discussion on six point forty nine regarding the request for five years.

Why five years?

Why not permanent?

Mr.

Washington, who do we have to discuss?

Six points forty-seven through six point fifty-five.

If we can make him into a panelist, Madam Chair, he's already a panelist.

Oh good morning.

Good morning.

Good to see you.

Um Vice Chair, you said 6.49.

6.49.

Uh Mr.

Doherty, just any idea why we're extending this um request for five years, and why not permanently?

Uh Mr.

Williams uh has uh for the last several years uh closed off the road, maintained it, uh kind of rolled it into a park area.

He does not own all the lots that are butt the street.

Uh the closure, temporary closure is uh with the approval of the abutting property owners, but if the use changes for those properties, then obviously uh maintaining access to those uh various lots, which I think are primarily uh controlled by the land bank, you know that that would likely necessitate the reopening of the road if uh use and ownership changes for those parcels.

And then the status of that private park.

This is a kind of this was a heavy conversation a number of years ago.

Did that ever occur?

The installation I believe the installation is out there.

Uh I think uh there aren't any permanent structures within the road right away, but there's a barricading, and I don't know if there's any uh tables or anything set up in that area, but uh uh yeah, there you know there are uh there are some items uh temporary items placed uh in the right area, but nothing permanent.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Mr.

Doherty, there are a number of requests to vacate alleys.

Um so I need to ask just to make sure that the petitioners did some outreach to the community.

I still get lots of calls with people surprised when these things happen.

Uh for 6.47.

It looks like this is the last house on the block.

Is that true?

Um, have they talked to their neighbors around uh making uh this uh on vacating this alley?

Yeah, so for the Dollbergs, uh, if you look at the uh exhibit attached to the petition, it will close just the southern leg of the uh alley uh down to stir event, but the uh through alley, uh the east-west alley will still be able to turn right and head north up to Fullerton, so full access will be maintained for all the other users of the alley, the only impacted parties are the uh four lots abutting the alley, and they've all agreed to it.

Thank you.

I'm just going through the requests now briefly.

I believe it looks here like perfecting church as well as asking to vacate an alley.

Did they talk to neighbors around them or do they also reserve um access?

Yeah, I believe they control all the property around this particular uh closure.

Okay.

Okay, and then this is a different request.

Okay, those are all of my questions.

There was a motion to approve six points forty-seven through six point fifty-five.

Are there any objections?

Hearing nine.

Is there a motion to send to new business?

Motion.

Send to new business with the recommendation to approve.

Um, just in case those um items have been waiting for us to move them out.

Thank you, Mr.

Doherty.

Thank you.

Moving us along under miscellaneous.

We are almost done, folks.

6.56.

This is a memo relative to request for resolution concerning family court awareness month.

We've been asked to bring this back in two weeks.

Hearing no objections, six points fifty-six will be brought back in two weeks.57 a resolution to repeal PA389.

Uh public act 389.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 6.57?

Uh, member Benson.

Um, yeah, this is uh repealing um the preemption for municipalities at the state level for single use plastics.

And we do have a resolution supported by the green task force as well as the number of allies um in the sustainability space.

And so we're looking forward to having that uh heard at the uh the formal session and approved by our colleagues.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Would this include plastic bags?

Yes, wonderful.

Love that.

Thank you.

Hearing no objections.

There's a motion to oh, I believe that we still need to.

This is not complete, correct LPD.

Thank you.

I was just gonna raise my hand.

It looks like we we just need to provide a uh which and it's been prepared, a revised resolution for the formal.

So if the if the committee approves this, and if you want it to go to formal, it'll be with the revised resolution.

Motion to approve the resolution as revised.

Hearing no objections, six points fifty seven will be sent to formal.

Approved as revised.

Motion for new business.

Thank you, Member Benson.

Moving us along, six points fifty-eight through six point sixty.

These are various memos.

6.58 is a memo relative to trash and waste collection.

6.59 is a memo relative to questions regarding stormwater management policies, and 6.60 is a memo relative to questions regarding code red emergency alert system.

We've been asked to bring these items back in two weeks.

If there are no objections without objections, 6.58 through 6.60 will be brought back in two weeks.

Moving us along six point sixty one is a memo relative to a request to draft a resolution in support of protecting over burdens act.

This can be received and filed without objection.

6.61 will be received and filed.

6.62 is a memo relative to resolution recognizing the indigenous people's day celebration.

This too can be received and filed.

Motion hearing no objections, 6.62 will be received and filed.

6.63 through 6.65.

Various memos, 6.63 memo relative to request for report on the flood mitigation solutions on West Grand Boulevard, 6.64.

Memo relative to request for reporting on the tool bank program, and 6.65 is a memo relative to request for walking mileage data in district one.

All three we've been asked to bring back in two weeks.

Motion hearing no objections, 6.63 through 6.65.

We'll be brought back in two weeks.

This brings us down to member reports.

We need to go back to 6.35.

Mr.

Washington, do we have someone from the transportation department?

Yes, through the chair.

I believe Director Kramer is joining.

He's stepping out of a meeting now.

All right.

We are is there move?

Is there a motion to discuss?

Motion.

Thank you.

And if we see our director, if we can please move him move him over as a panelist.

We'll do.

I don't see him at this moment, but I'll look for him.

Okay.

We'll see if we find the um and would like to move this out.

Um I just I think myself and member Benson are curious to see.

Um the chair he has going up.

Wonderful.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Good morning.

So sorry.

No, we're sorry.

Good morning, director.

If you wouldn't mind stating your naming title for the public, Robert Kramer, director of D dot.

Appreciate you stepping out of your meeting.

Sorry to take you away, but this should be brief and fun.

We are discussing 6.35, uh, the nine million dollar grants funded uh projects or funding for four electric buses.

I know I'm very curious to see uh what the timeline is that we can receive these and also how this plays a role um in our larger um sustainability plan for for D D dot.

Absolutely.

So uh this contract is for four battery electric buses.

Two of them are gonna be um 40 foot buses, so the same size as most rest of the fleet.

Two of them are the 60-foot articulated, which uh we do have uh some of those, of course.

Um we won't get a final delivery window um specifically until the contract's awarded and the PO is issued.

Um but our um conversations with New Flyer have indicated that we think it's gonna be relatively quick.

Um, like definitely by the end of the year.

Um so pretty excited about that.

And this uh contract, as you can see, also includes um the equipment to make sure that we can charge them, uh training and specialized tools um for this particular fleet of new flyer coaches.

Um so I think that's the best answer.

Overall, uh this will give us an opportunity.

Uh this is kind of a pilot really still.

It'll give us an opportunity to learn more about how the battery full battery electric buses perform um in different uh the the four season weather conditions that we have and help us learn more about how this type of propulsion system and uh charging fueling um, so to speak, would work in our system in in the future.

What we've heard from other operators is that the battery electric buses can offer some challenges when it comes to deployment because you have to have uh quite a bit of time to charge them.

Whereas with uh diesel bus or um CNG, some of the other propulsion systems, you can fuel them much more quickly.

So that's what we're uh learning about.

We've already designated um some different uh pieces of work, some different runs uh that will allow them to be out on the road a little bit shorter periods of time, um, where we really again will learn how those conditions play out.

Um but we're excited uh to have them in the fleet.

We think uh the passengers will be excited to ride and experience them.

Um and then overall, uh we're in the middle right now of receiving our current order of 45 new flyer uh hybrid buses.

Those are diesel electric hybrids.

And um we have a um possible um grant uh next year that would also help us purchase more diesel electric hybrids.

The advantage there you get um a significant increase uh significant improvement when it comes to emissions, but um the convenience of being able to fuel them uh without having to have the larger the longer recharging period.

So uh happy to answer any other questions or or explain any any other uh details here, but hopefully that helped.

Thank you.

That is helpful.

I just have one more.

Um the Taylor report mentions that a budget is being established.

This is a full, this is a grant funded um contract.

I see.

Are we expecting to utilize any other funding other than the grant funding?

For these uh battery electric buses, uh no.

Okay, all right, thank you.

Are there any other questions?

Discussion.

Vice Chair.

Thank you.

Um Director Kramer, thank you for being here today.

So my questions go along the same lines.

Just the charging infrastructure.

We now have two fully EV solid waste vehicles uh at DPW.

We'll now see four fully EV buses at transportation.

Uh the charging infrastructure uh has been in installed at the DPW yard.

Where do you plan to install the charging infrastructure for the buses?

And then at what speed are you all planning for that charge to be delivered to the buses?

Great questions.

So the um the initial deployment will be um temporary, I think would be the best way to describe them.

Uh chargers, and these will be at the shoemaker terminal, which is at um well, St.

Jean shoemaker warren uh corners there for those of you who are not familiar with that.

Um then I'll have the temporary charges we're calling them, which are kind of the lower, lower powered.

Um that requires about eight hours per charge.

Uh and we will have four of them.

And then the grant includes um some funding to uh work on a more um uh higher powered charger that would be kind of a future.

There's there's more details to be worked out about that.

Um but they they have done the preliminary work as far as uh ensuring that there's enough energy at the site and have a plan for how to bring that on.

But initially there'll be eight hour charges.

Um, and with the chargers basically having having uh chargers available, they'll be charged in uh um in a bay uh that's at the shoemaker uh terminal.

And that eight hours on the DC fast charger.

Yeah, well, they're yeah, they're not the they're they're the not so fast chargers.

Uh these these temporary uh chargers do require about eight hours.

Again, that's only if you run them all the way down to 20% and you're gonna charge them all the way back up past eight.

When can we get some uh more detailed specs on this operation of the buses?

We don't have to go into that now, it gets pretty technical.

But I really would be interested in just getting more information about the text, the size of the batteries, the actual speed of these chargers.

I'm just thinking that something's gonna power a bus, even a DC fast charger and take that level of time versus a level two, which can power a car but can take several hours to uh charge a fully EV passenger vehicle.

So I'm just really interested in the specs, um, DTE's ability to provide the power that you need, and then your ability to provide the uh speed for the buses.

It's really interested in which lines can accommodate the uh shorter charge times just because we are a cold weather city, and I know as four seasons, those batteries degrade depending on the uh outside weather.

So just really interested to see how you are planning for this and then the infrastructure needs to implement.

And then if can if we can do this in the future, or is it technology just not there yet?

Really interested in that.

Two two quick comments through the chair, if if I may.

Um, so yes, we'll um we'll put together uh a memo that kind of covers uh those items and share it with you with your committee and and and probably with the council as a whole as well.

Because those are are really good questions, things we've been talking about in the future.

Um, something else that has been contemplated, but we don't have any concrete deals uh details yet would be are there ways to be able to do some some uh fast charge top offs, so to speak, when you're out on the road.

So the uh both Jason Hargrove and Rosa Parks Transit Centers have had some some um studying done.

And I know at Jason Hargrove, they actually have some conduit in the ground that specifically would accommodate the types of wiring that are needed to have um uh the overhead pantograph style quick chargers, and that would be um some of the things if we were going to look at a fleet that had more all electric buses that we wanted to be able to deploy uh long a longer portion of the day, basically, is we would need to start identifying those opportunities to be adding charge um out on the road rather than having to rely on coming back to the terminal and plugging in.

So that is something that we've uh we've uh uh contemplated and talked about.

And then there's also um some other uh possible state partnerships in the future.

Uh there's the in-road um inductive charging that's got you know, there's one block of that that's over by the new lab.

Um, and there may be some opportunities for um D dot to participate in some some research on is that something that could also be used to uh add a little bit of extra juice along the way.

Uh again, with that that biggest challenge with the battery electrics is how can you keep them from having to return back to the to the terminal um to plug in for a long charge, even if it's only two or three hours, that's still very disruptive when you've got a 24-hour operation.

Thank you.

Looking forward to that report.

And then uh once they are online, hopefully you'll uh extend an invitation to council members to uh take some rides and actually see the buses in operation.

Definitely.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Um and I don't think I know how to utilize that road.

I have driven by and then I I don't know if I can charge my car in it.

I don't think I can.

Okay, just uh okay.

Because I'm like, this isn't working.

Okay, I can't do it.

Got it.

Okay, thank you, everyone.

Um is there a motion to approve to new business?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 635 would be approved sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

Thank you, Director.

Hope you have a good rest of your day and good rest of your meetings.

Um member reports, vice chair.

Uh no report.

No, that's not true.

So just want to uh remind everybody to please attend one of our workshops when it comes to legacy planning.

Uh these are fantastic free services.

These are about four thousand dollars on the open market, and this is the city is paying for free.

This is to ensure that we are able to keep the wealth of our families within our community and protect your wealth.

And often people may think that there's only a certain category of residents that this applies to.

This is universal.

If you do not plan for your legacy and the maintenance of the wealth, the state will gladly come in and take as much as they can.

You want to ensure that you are retaining the wealth in your family.

And when you look at the disparities of wealth between the different demographics, i.e., race within the city within this country, a $50,000 injection into your family's wealth is huge into bringing it to reducing that gap.

So please take advantage of this.

We see all residents at all levels, education levels, um financial levels that fail to plan, and then the state gladly comes in and takes that money.

So please take advantage, it's free.

Go online, legacy and estate planning of the city of Detroit.

Thank you.

Thank you, Vice Chair Member Waters.

Oh, yes, member.

All right, just for just for some clarity, my apologies.

I want to make sure that I did not hear move to formal new business for 5.13.

Was that just moved to formal?

Thank you, madam clerk.

Let me a lot of scrolling.

513, as far as I know, this was just approved to regular business.

Thank you very much.

Okay, thank you, Madam Clerk.

Member Waters.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

And let me just say thank you, Member Benton, for all that you do regarding estate planning.

You know, as a people, we tend to ignore those kinds of things.

Then everything gets tied up in probate, and one lawyer after another gets get to just chip away at it.

Yeah, chip away at it.

Find yourself you have anything left.

So uh, but anyway, uh on October Wednesday, October 15th, from 4 to 6 p.m.

Uh skill trades uh task force meetings, which will be at the Crowwell Recreation Center, 168, 1663 Larser Road, Wednesday, October 15th at Crowwell, uh skill trade uh from 4 to 6 p.m.

And then on October 24th, which is a Friday, it we're having it's called Sheltered by Faith, and this is going to be at Wayne County Community College of the Banquet Center 8200, West Auto Drive.

Uh we are gearing this uh towards um both uh nonprofits and our faith-based communities, and so we do hope that you will join us.

It is from 10 uh a.m.

until 2 p.m.

All right, thank you, madam chair.

Thank you, member waters.

Uh for everyone, the public, my colleagues to note.

Uh next Monday, we will be canceling public health and safety.

We invite everyone to join us um at the Heart Plaza from 12 to 6 p.m.

We're going to have our indigenous day celebration.

It is due to be beautiful.

Um we have a ton of partners.

There will be a powwow, food, vendors, um, education, music, dancing.

Uh please come celebrate with us.

Um, but with that, we have a lot to get done uh from now until the end of the year.

Fully intend to make sure that we get the things done that we need to get done um before the end of November.

Uh, but do welcome folks to join us on the 13th and get ready to double down to get things done before we we wrap up for the for the year.

Uh but with that, my vice chairman.

Thank you.

And then will there be any um collateral or marketing materials for the powwow?

Yes, sir.

So if you look now, thank you to the administration.

Mr.

Washington has already been sharing flyers, it's on social media, on Facebook, Instagram.

Please do share it out.

Thank you.

Thanks, everyone.

With that, hearing nothing else to come before us, we are now adjourned.