Good morning, everyone.

I would like to call to order our public health and safety standing committee for today, Monday, October 20th, 2025.

May the clerk please call the roll.

Good morning.

Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero.

Good morning.

Present.

Councilmember Scott Benson.

Councilmember Mary Waters.

Member Waters did indicate that she would be absent today, so her absence is excused.

Clerk was on note.

Madam Chair, you have a quorum present.

Thank you.

Madam Clerk, giving a quorum.

We're right into the agenda for today.

We have received our minutes from our last session.

Is there a motion to approve?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, our minutes from 10 6 will be approved.

Uh today we do have a 10 30 a.m.

public hearing.

So we can go right into public comment for today.

Our public hearing at 10 30 is going to be regarding the smokeless uh ordinance, smokeless tobacco nicotine products.

Uh, and we will have that discussion again at 10 30.

I will cut off general public comment at 10 05.

So if you are here in person, hello, or if you are online, please raise your hand now.

If you would like to make general public comments, and then we will have public comments once again for a 10 30 a.m.

public hearing.

So if you are here in person or if you are online and you would like to make public comment only during our 10 30 a.m.

public hearing regarding the smokeless uh ordinance, you will have the ability to do so once we begin our 10 30 a.m.

discussion.

But again, for now, we are only during general public comments.

For general public comments, um, good morning, madam Duncan.

How many folks do we have online for general public comment?

Good morning, madam chair.

There are currently 10 hands raised.

Okay, I will give everyone a minute and a half uh given our 1030 a.m.

public hearing.

And again, if you would like to make general public comments and a comment during our 1030 a.m.

public hearing, for 1030 a.m.

You can only speak regarding the smokeless ordinance.

But for now, we are going to go into general public comments.

We'll go with the folks that we have here in person.

Mr.

Foster, I I see that you are here with us.

General public comments is now cut off.

Everyone will have a minute and a half.

Mr.

Foster, you'll go first, and then we'll go to the folks that we have online.

Mr.

Foster, whenever you're ready.

Morning.

Uh, through the chair.

Just wanted to just speak uh very briefly on the importance of public comment and free speech.

I think that the um court of appeals have ruled that there's a distinct difference between lobbyists' special interests and the public, and those things have to be taken into consideration.

Well, I support CDI and a lot of other things in this certain ventures.

I do not support the processes.

I do not support being strong armed by any form of government, any fashion to do their own will as it pertains to the surveillance ordinance that this council body has um established.

I respectfully ask that the chief come down, be summons down to talk about um his social media influences and other forms of technology that are synonymous with the shy spotter issue.

And so um those things are very important.

Secondly, I wanted to just bring to light here.

The last four years, I have a watch.

The special interest group started with District Detroit, and I stood against that.

Then they went to the homeless task force.

Where there was uh a couple of indictments there.

Um people with lost houses was lost.

They got promoted, went to another position, then went to CVI in year three or four.

And so those type of things have to stop.

You have to open up to community.

Free speech and be more inclusive.

Thank you, Mr.

Foster, for coming in.

We will now go to the folks that we have online.

Are you online, Brother Cunningham?

I'll just turn myself off.

Okay.

You were on the list, so you made it before I cut off public comment.

You can go ahead and take Mr.

Foster's uh place, and for folks that are online, we'll go next to we'll go to you next.

Um, but Mr.

Cunningham did make the cutoff before we cut off public comments, and he's here in person now.

Mr.

Cunningham, whenever you're ready.

All right, good morning.

313 444, 9114, 313, 444, 9114, 313.

444, 9114.

And it was made so you can remember it.

And on Facebook, not enemy.

Two words, not enemy.

This morning, we'll be doing a ride along.

I told you, just regular citizens, um, upper echelon, lower upper epsilon, whatever.

Um, Stephen Greedy Mohammed was a former chief of staff for um uh Brenda Jones, the honorable Brenda Jones.

She he'll be doing the ride along after about 11, 1115 or so, 11, 11.30 from the Rosa Park Trans Center.

I'm trying to get everybody that can to get on the coaches.

And we'll be doing that from Rosa Parks Transit Center.

Now, this is the image of the honorable Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick.

I had a mural made, not mural, but uh a portrait made.

And if you didn't know the funding for the Rosa Park Trans Center, that was her doing.

Um, she brought a lot of money into this city, and what she did with her son, that's that's something different, but she brought a lot of money in the city.

She needs you know to be respected as she is.

And um, I made these um just in her honor.

And um we all love this city, and we gotta stick together.

Um D Dot needs to improve.

Um, and that's what I advocate upon.

And then hand warmers, we're gonna need them again, y'all.

Sounds good.

Thank you, Mr.

Cunningham.

Thanks for coming down.

Would you like one?

If you would leave me one, yes, of course.

Thank you.

We will now go to the folks that we have online.

Um, Miss Duncan, who do we have first?

The first caller is caller number ending 169, caller number ending in 169.

Hello, can you guys hear me?

Yes, we can.

Great, great.

I just want to say um thank you for praying for Brother Cunningham and thank you for fixing me.

And thank you for my time.

The next caller is William Davis.

Good morning.

Can I be heard?

Yes, good morning.

I like to start off by saying that on Saturday I went to the No King's Day in uh downtown Detroit with thousands of city Detroit uh residents and thousands of of uh suburbanites.

We was standing there in unity for hours, and it was an outstanding day, and I think we need to be doing more to help mobilize our people.

Uh also separately, I think the the city of Detroit Health Department needs to be doing more and giving updates as it relates to child property in the city of Detroit and what they can do to help to make life better.

I also understand that lately they've been cutting back on programs or freezing them until some point later.

You know, it'd be good to get regular reports and updates on what the health department is doing, preparing to do and what they need to do and what they have not done yet, because we we should know more what's going on in our city as it relates to our health.

And um, I look forward to making public comment about this about this uh smoking stuff.

We have too many people smoking.

We have too many uh we have too many gas stations that sell and loose cigarettes.

We have too many uh liquor stores in the city.

Thank you.

Thank you.

The next caller is owner Papa.

Good morning, Miss Carolyn Hughes.

Good morning, and through the chair, may I be heard?

Yes.

Yes, Mr.

Uh, he he he brought up some very good points.

You know, we have uh twice the number of liquor stores that the law allows, the state Michigan law, although they were the ones who issued the license.

You want to solve the crime problem.

Let's have more jobs, let's have more recreation centers.

Let's do those things that we know.

Help and society.

Um, several things are on your committee, and this seems to be the most corrupt committee.

You are over the health department, and we have child poverty after all of the opera money, after all of the the cares funds, after all of the Oprah money.

We have children that are three to four times the national average living in poverty after the billions of dollars the city has received.

And now you want to come to the citizens and say any surplus you make in property taxes, we're gonna take them to fill the holes of white corporate America.

This is outrageous.

You are outrageous.

If you don't look at the data that you've received in terms of Detroit being the third most violent city in this after all of the dollars that you spent, and now you have CVI on it.

Um this is ridiculous, and we need to find a new path.

The next caller is Galaxy S22.

Good morning.

Can I be heard?

Yes, good morning.

Uh yes, uh I know it's uh election time, and we need to get on our job with uh DPW with the service we have in the city of Detroit is terrible.

Our taxes went up on our home, they overtaxed us.

I don't know if you guys is paying us any attention because it seemed like nothing is getting done.

And we we talk every week about the same problems we have in, and we ain't getting the service that we put you in office for that we paying you for tax dollars paying you.

You know, it's sad that we have to come back every week with the same problem.

Uh we catch a hell over here with uh uh Christ of fumes.

I've been talking to my city council.

We spoke to Chrysler to the table every time Christ is supposed to come to the table, no show.

Or they send someone that and the and the problem never get done.

We we uh they should have bought these homes over here before they build that paint factory.

You know, the opera money should have came over here and helped us out more.

Doug and gave the opera money out to the the uh uh big corporate, and it's sad you guys got to do more.

You guys just represent us, and it's sad that we can't get the right representation from you guys when we need it.

What we're dealing with.

It's sad.

We need to do better.

The next caller is iPhone.

Good morning to all within the sound of my voice.

I'm Betty A.

Verner, president of the Soda Elsworth Black Association.

Also, I'm a proud resident born and raised for the city of Detroit.

I'm advocating for uh people who need assistance in their homes so that they can be able to stay in their homes comfortably, be safe at peace, and not end up in a nursing home.

I found out about another program that is set up to help people stay in their homes.

And what's unique about this program, it uh provides services for caregivers and for the people who need service.

So if you have a caregiver and it's a respiration program, they have a program for uh adult daycare that will provide services, uh a companion to sit with you, uh, services, uh house chores, uh, food prep or light cooking.

For this particular program, you must be uh have Medicaid, but they have multiple programs.

Some of the programs you need medic, you need to have Medicaid, some you don't.

Some of the programs are um income-based, some not.

So this was makes this a unique program.

You would call a Mrs.

Royal.

She is the executive director.

Her number 313-484-3808.

313-484-3808.

Thank you for you, Ms.

Verner.

The next caller is Karen Winston.

Hello.

Yes, hello.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Um, thank you for your punctuality.

Um, and also um, God bless Betty A.

Barner.

She always tries to help uh other retirees, and and I appreciate that, even though I don't qualify for any of the things that she's bringing up.

And that's why this fast track resolution that city council came up with for the retirees, it doesn't help me.

I don't know how many people it does help, but that helps me not um at all.

Um there was some um conversation about a 13th check that council president spoke of in her uh mayor debate.

And I don't guess you guys don't know.

It was two separate sets of retirees, police fire and general retirees.

The general retirees took a much harder hit than police and fire.

They only had theirs reduced to one percent.

So we they got the 13th check.

We didn't get a 13th check.

So someone needs to look into that, and you guys need to understand that every all retirees are not the same.

So when you say 13th check for two years, we haven't gotten that.

We got one check this May for 464 dollars.

Um there was an accident where a garbage truck pulled down wires in the pole right in front of my great grandson's school last week on Thursday and Friday morning when I went to take him back to school.

That situation still existed.

I guess they're on standby.

That's a lot of money to spend having a crew stand by overnight.

We need to make sure that those um cable companies, it wasn't a hot wire, it was a cable wire.

They need to get out there and take care of those accidents.

The next caller is Miko A.

Williams.

Miko, if you can hear us, you're up next.

Miko, if you're speaking, we cannot hear you.

Hello, good good morning.

Can you hear me?

Yes.

I'm sorry, yes, I was trying to get my phone off mute.

So basically, I want to ask, what is the plan to get rats out of downtown Detroit?

Uh, I have been seeing a number of rats run throughout the alleyways.

Um, and I'm pretty sure they're invading some of the restaurants, not just Lafayette Coney Island.

What is that plan to get rid of the rats?

Um it's a concern.

You know, we're eating at these restaurants, and you want to close down restaurants for not having health inspections, but the city itself, we don't have a health department, so it's in violation of its own standards and procedures that need to be fixed.

The No Kings protest, so worse, worse, worse.

Let me just ask, why wasn't there a No Kings protest in front of Mike Duggins' house at the Manogia Mansion?

He's a fascist and a dictator.

He's also not a king of the city, and we need to be focusing more on matters at home.

Uh, this whole government is corrupt, and we need to take it down, however, we can.

And I'm going to be honest with you.

You know, the more I think about the debate, and the more I think about the poverty rate, none of the black officials and gatekeepers or even so much as the city officials, you see it every week.

They won't give Cunningham no bus tickets, no hand warmers, no water, no food to give the people at the bus stops, and also information.

You could use him a lot more greater than just coming up with excuse week after week after week of why you can't do much and why people keep coming down here to complain.

It is a shame.

You should all be fired and replaced.

Briefly, the city does have a health department that does conduct health inspections, and uh there have been many people, not just council members that support Brother Cunningham for donations for his vehicles with hand warmers with bus tickets with water bottles.

Um, thank you, Brother Cunningham, for what you do.

Who is next?

The next caller is call in user one.

Call in user one, you're up next.

Can I be heard?

Yes, you can.

Good morning.

Thank you, council member Romeris for having wonderful staff that has been the only one to be able to try to help with getting answers as to why DOT will not fix the glass bus shelters.

Um that has been torn by accident when you try to ask Dot director during public comment.

He always has someone that is very ratchet, indignant and ghetto interrupting, so you can't get your questions answered.

Um, I find that appalling.

I hope that you will have your own town hall coming up for next month.

I was deeply disappointed with Sheckfield as she didn't call on those of us who were in public comment waiting to ask the question.

I was like to buy her staff, Victoria and Tyler, that they were going to help assist in getting information.

Um, I don't know if you're aware in your district when people come out to lay poisonous chemicals in apartments.

They are not licensed and they are bullying residents.

Um, if you tell or complain to council that you will be evicted, your staff has been the only one to do something.

Then next caller, Cecily McClellan.

Thank you very much for this opportunity.

My name is Cecily McClellan.

I'm with we the people of Detroit.

And uh I'm very much concerned as it relates to not having the Detroit Lifeline program any longer.

The program has been uh in essence terminated as as funding has uh run out, and so now you know we do not have a program that will provide services to our low-income resident.

We do not need to revisit the 2013 when we had uh uh over 100,000 residents without water.

We need a low income program that is based on income.

We need the debt forgiveness, and we also need shut off protection.

Reverend Diebendorf has a bill that is that will uh be presented in totality at the end of this month, and we're asking it all support the uh affordable water now bill.

Also, uh one of our mentors and and a vanguard of uh water movement is the honorable Joanne Watson.

There is going to be um a ceremony or there's going to be recognition for a street being named uh after the honorable Joanne Watson.

Uh I think it goes before planning on the 23rd, and also it comes before council on the 28th.

I think this is one way of really truly honoring a council person who stood up and fought tirelessly for the residents and the people of the city of Detroit.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

The final caller is Cindy Dara.

Ms.

Dara, you're up next.

Yes.

Um I'm running as a write in for Detroit City Clerk.

And you have to go on your ballot and write underneath Janice Wamfrey's name.

She's an unopposed.

You can write my name in and then check the box.

Now, my platform.

If we uh would do my platform, you wouldn't it wouldn't be so bad when you cut off public comment because I have been told by a very good friend that uh Zoom transcripts are free.

So we could get that transcript of all our city meetings, including the water board, and put that up, that transcript on our website, and let people at night skim that instead of because they're at work, they're not gonna listen to these meetings.

They could skim it like the New York Times and write their public comment, and people could post their public comment online as at night after they read the public comments and all that what you do during the day.

Okay, that's one thing.

Open up chat.

We need approval voting, and it's much better, and there's gonna be a meeting at the library on Tuesday from 6 to 745 at the main library about rank choice, which is inferior and much uh more complicated and doesn't solve the problems that approval voting does.

So I want you to come to that and look at election sound.

Thank you, Miss Dara.

I believe that's our last caller, so we're going to go right into the rest of the agenda for today.

Uh, just a note we do have a 130 p.m.

at dangerous buildings hearings today.

I will move us along to the rest of the agenda.

There's a few things that we can uh get done before our 1030.

Under unfinished business, 6.1 through 6.4.

All of these um, as well as 6.6.

These are all various memos.

6.1 is a memo relative to trash and waste collection.

6.2 is a memo relative to questions regarding stormwater management's policy.

6.3 is a memo relative to questions regarding code red emergency alert systems.

6.4 is a memo relative to a reports on flood mitigation solutions.

And 6.6 is a memo relative to a request for walking mileage data in district one.

All of these items 6.1 through 6.4 and 6.6.

We've been asked to bring these back in two weeks.

Hearing no objections, 6.1 through 6.4, and 6.6 are going to be brought back in two weeks.

6.5 is a memo relative to a request for resolution concerning family court awareness month.

This can be received and filed.

The resolutions on our agenda for today.

6.5 will be received and filed.

6.7 is a memo relative to request for reporting on tool bank programs.

This is from a pro tentate's office.

This can also be received and filed.

Motion.

Hearing no objections 6.7 will be received and filed.

6.8 and 6.9.

These we have approved the resolutions already.

So these can be received and filed.

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 6.8 and 6.9 will be received and filed.

6.10 is a memo relative to questions regarding DPD training practices.

This can be brought back in two weeks.

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 6.10 will be brought back in two weeks.11 is a memo relative to uh a request relative to a memo relative to a liquor store at 1440 Kirchhoffal.

This can be received and filed as well.

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 6.11 will be received and filed.

6.12 is a contract.

So this is contract number 307623.

This is regarding an emergency demo at 1974 Staheelin.

The contractor's inner city they're located in Detroit.

This is for 28,888.

And this will be for construction and demolition.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 6.12?

Motion to approve.

Hearing no objections, 6.12 will be approved, sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

6.13 is a petition regarding the Hamohoeck request for encroachments for an on-site advertising sign.

This we will come back to this after our 1030 discussion.

What this ordinance is, it seems pretty straightforward.

And I mentioned Member Benton is one of the co-sponsors, Member Durhall being the other, to the law department.

Through the Chair Graham Anderson Law Department.

Yes, you you are absolutely right, uh Councilmember Santiago Romero.

This is a relatively straightforward ordinance.

It amends chapter 31, Article 5, Offenses Against Public Peace.

The purpose being the preservation, protection, and promotion of public uh health for the city of Detroit residents.

Specifically, we're dealing with smokeless tobacco, alternative nicotine products, and other tobacco products.

What we're actually prohibiting here is it shall be unlawful for a person to use smokeless tobacco, alternative nicotine products or other nicotine products as defined, which we'll get to at stadiums or sports arenas or any stadium or sports arena semi-open or in closed areas in the structure.

So what this ordinance would require is sign postage at the entrance to each stadium site.

The definition we use of an alternative nicotine product in this case is a non-combustible product containing nicotine that is intended for human consumption, whether chewed, absorbed, dissolve, or ingested by any other means.

And uh smokeless tobacco is defined uh as snuff, snuss, chewing tobacco, moist snuff, and any other tobacco that is intended to be used or consumed, whether chewed, absorbed, dissolved, and inhaled, snorted, sniffed, or ingested by any other means other than smoking.

Um it's it's a very straightforward ordinance, like we said, nothing um uh reinventing the wheel here, and I'm I'm happy to take any uh additional questions.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh so this does not include then um I don't see it, correct me if I'm wrong.

This does not include then vapes or the other types of things that people use to smoke, correct?

Through the chair, that is correct, because that that is the focus here is uh the smokeless tobacco.

We already have uh ordinances addressing vaping.

And that was gonna be my second question because a lot of our stadiums also have smoking areas.

So there's there are areas where it is allowed in the stadiums.

This is not going to impact that that's already sets aside for folks that would like to smoke in the stadium.

I believe it's outside.

Through the chair, correct.

It has no impact on that.

Okay.

Um questions, comments regarding this.

Thank you, Madam Chair, and just wanted to say uh thank you to my colleague for bringing this up.

Um, we want to make sure that we are prioritizing the health of our residents and especially our youth, and this type of ordinance does that.

Thank you.

Um, so then enforcement looks like warning, potential tickets, potential um ability to be asked to be sent out.

There's also a misdemeanor correct that is a part of the enforcement.

Through the chair, that is correct.

That's part of the 100 potential fine.

Okay, got it.

That goes with the fine.

Okay.

Um I will turn it over to the folks that we have online to see if there's any questions from the public.

Um I have just a few more questions that we can ask after.

Um, and we can also ask any other questions that we hear from the public.

But if the public is here with us now, anyone that's online, anyone here in person would like to make public comment regarding the 1030 and public hearing scene nine.

We will turn it over to the folks that we have online.

Please raise your hands now.

If you would like to make public comments, I will give everyone a minute and a half again for their public comments.

Uh the comments have to be strictly uh about this ordinance, the smokeless tobacco ordinance um in our stadiums and sports, and I'll be cutting off public comments in three, cutting off public comments for our public hearing, our 1030 a.m.

public hearing in two.

Public comment is now cut off for our 1030 a.m.

public hearing.

We have a minute and a half on the screen.

Miss Duncan, how many hands do we have?

And who do we have first?

Madam Chair, there are six hands raised.

The first caller being not that, Karen.

Uh Miss Karen.

There is a oh hello.

If there are multiple devices on, if you could please just have the one on we can hear some feedback.

Can you hear me now?

We can hear you now.

Okay, great.

Um I'm just concerned why we don't um have the same rules for the smokeless tobacco as we have for the um cigarette smokers or vapors or whatever.

Because if you can allow a location for um in stadiums for people who smoke, then you're appeasing their their habit.

But it seems like the tobacco chewers are gonna be penalized.

Perhaps we could have a location where they can go and chew and spit their tobacco, just like you have a place where uh I don't smoke or chew tobacco, so it doesn't affect me personally, but it seems like it would be more fair if we would uh allow a certain area where they can you know chew and spit that tobacco to satisfy their uh craving that that the chewing tobacco imposes on their body, just like you do for the cigarette uh smoke.

And I think that may even be a little safer because it's not all in the air, you know, affecting everybody in you know, around them.

That's just my opinion.

Thank you for my opportunity to speak that.

Thank you.

The next caller is Minko A.

Williams.

Yes, can I be heard, please?

Yes.

Yes, okay.

First of all, uh, we need to make sure that vapes are the most common thing that is smoked in the stadium, the Fox, LCA, uh Fourfield has a smoke, a smoking section.

And I'm not sure if they have anywhere to spit your tobacco out for chewing tobacco, but I'm not understanding why chewing tobacco is a priority other than vaping, uh weed vapes and also the breezes.

Um we have Michigan law says no smoking in any building.

The illage's uh properties are smokeless properties, so that means you can't smoke at all.

It needs to be enforced because the concerts are becoming too weed heavy.

Uh the sporting events and such, you know, people get mad because you uh blow vape smoke in their face, and you know, there's no penalty unless ejection or throw out, and you're only giving a warning.

But also I want you know, stricter laws on these gas stations and uh liquor stores that sell uh vapes and such, and they're not being regulated.

Um I'm pretty sure that this uh ordinance it could work to some extent, but it needs to be more about vaping.

It needs to be more about smoking.

You can't just roll up a blunt at the Fox Theater and think you're at home.

You can't roll up a blunt at LCA.

You can't roll up uh that za or whatever and sell it and shame on Mark Savaia and those that supported the corporate tax on weed.

Shame.

Thank you for taking the next caller is owner Papa.

Uh good morning through the chair, Carolyn Hughes.

May I be heard?

Yes.

Uh another ordinance, much to do about nothing.

We have all of these issues going on, and you're talking about something on top of something else.

We already have laws about smoking in buildings, and I'm not sure why why don't we why don't we add a fee uh to this ordinance saying that they should pay us a fee for cleaning up or what the residuals from having these events at these programs instead of looking for a tax, we can enact a fee.

We used to have a fee.

Um it's it's it's not something that is burning on the people's agenda.

And I think this is par for the course.

While councilman Benson talks about the health of the people, how hypocritical is he when he has gotten information about speed humps uh producing particulate matter in our neighborhoods at levels that should not be tolerated.

But he wants to talk about vaping in sporting arenas and things of that nature.

I think if you really cared about the health of the people in the city of Detroit, you you would you would be doing something entirely different than what you're doing right now, instead of genociding us with speed humps and all kinds of um police tactics and things of that nature.

Now you want to talk about tobacco and use in uh stadiums.

Please use our time and our money wisely.

This isn't okay.

Thank you.

The next caller is Cindy Dara.

Ms.

Dara, you're up next.

Yes, uh I I uh agree with Carolyn.

It's just uh all uh that the Democrats tend to try and protect us so much and they pass so many rules and laws uh that to tell us what to do.

And then that you know, but as far as the contractors are probably being unsupervised and doing what they want to make their big money.

But I uh I think if you had uh maybe if you had this thing uh probably comment up online, people could suggest to you what they really want, and maybe people could connect.

Please let me know what your thoughts are regarding this ordinance for 1030.

Right.

I think it's I think it's another thing that telling us what we can't do instead of what we can do together.

It's just another restrictive uh ordinance, and it should be careful about constantly making things that we can't do instead of trying to figure out how we can work together.

This is another absurdity.

I mean, my dad spit tobacco out one time.

I was sitting in the back seat with the window down, came right in my face, but it didn't hurt my lungs.

You know, it didn't hurt my lungs, and people throw garbage all over the city, and nobody gives any advice.

I guess well, I see there is a garbage can outside the store.

That should be an ordinance.

Thank you, Ms.

Dara.

I making sure that you kept it to conversation.

Um, just remind everyone that we are only to make comments regarding the 10 30 a.m.

public hearing, the smokeless tobacco ordinance.

Uh, who do we have next?

The last caller is William Davis.

Mr.

Davis.

Uh good morning.

Can I be heard?

Yes, you can.

Good morning.

Yeah, I I think it needs to be a greater effort to enforce you know the fact that nobody should be smoking anything and and in the arenas or in the public.

You know, you know, if somebody's doing something in their car or in their house, is one thing, but even in their car, if they got kids and they shouldn't be doing it.

But you know, we need to more strongly enforce that it should be no smoking, period.

You know, in in public buildings.

You know, if if I if I don't smoke, I shouldn't be I shouldn't have to sit next to somebody that's vaping or doing whatever else they do.

We need to make sure that the majority has more rights instead of giving a lot of rights to the minority that wants to smoke uh smokelessness and vape this and cue this and all that sort of junk.

You know, we need to be thinking about the overall health of our city and our people, especially as relates to far too many young people are getting into vaping and stuff, which is horrible.

You know, it's like the equivalent of smoking a whole pack of cigarettes in in five minutes.

You know, we need to make our city healthier, more welcoming.

You know, perhaps we even have more people that's willing to go to some of our events, even if they isn't uh an emission tax added to help the city to try.

If they could feel safe that they could breathe.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right, so they always call we'd like to talk about some of the things that we heard.

Um, I think a very valid question is is why this why now?

Um, to a lot of departments.

Um was there an issue?

Is there data that shows the importance of this?

I guess if you talk about why this is being brought to the table now.

Through the chair, I can't speak to so much as the now, other than this is uh something council member Durhal found uh importance that needed attention.

I will say regarding um some of the comments about vaping.

Vaping uh is clearly the the big new um hot use to use tobacco, but but there really is a a large rise in my personal experience in young people and people in their late 20s, 30s really uh the zins are a very big thing that has made a big rise.

So uh I I definitely understand people uh voicing the concern about vaping, but this is another form of tobacco that is heavily on the rise.

I I don't have um data or anything behind that.

I'm not sure if Councilmember Durhal's team does or um some other agency.

Um, but but that's that that's my understanding.

Thank you.

Uh, we did receive uh some letters of support from different agencies that talked about the rise of uh use of tobacco and smokeless tobacco products in young people, um, and really the need to protect people's health.

Um and when it comes to the other issues that people brought up, it really does take enforcements, which um this is talking about only smokeless products.

Um, but the others, there are laws around those now that need to be enforced.

Um, but for today we are only discussing smokeless uh products.

Um I believe member Durhal is online and would like to join us, and we did notice a quorum, so I believe that we can have him speak if he's online or Dr.

Powers.

Um unless uh I could defer for the legal aspects of it to Tom or speak to it from what I know.

Oh, um, okay, so um we don't allow for council members to participate in meetings because we no longer have electronic meetings.

Um, if if council member Durho wished to speak as a member of the public for the same amount of time um without objection from your colleague, you could open public comment back up for him to do so.

Discussion then um technically you're opening it back up again for anyone else.

Would it be possible for him to speak as a subject matter experts of this of this topic since he is the sponsor, one of the sponsors.

LPD Tom Stevens LPD.

I'm not sure there is I I think it's a clever attempt to distinguish between subject matter expert and public comment, but the public comment are also matter experts too.

So I don't think it makes a difference in this point.

I I think that the the issue is whether or not there would be a change that would create a a quorum, and there wouldn't be.

I'm not as familiar, I think, as Dr.

Powers is with what she said about them about council members not participating online.

So I and the bottom line is it seems to me, treating them as the subject matter slash public comment with public comment time is not problematic.

Anything else, I don't see it's it could be problematic because of all the various considerations about quorums and electronic communications.

Through the chair.

Uh Grand Madison Law Department, I agree with uh Dr.

Power's initial conclusion.

Uh, I don't think it would be proper.

And I might add uh quickly before a member Benson actually closes the door.

Um, that the um in the past there's been an attempt to have a council member speak as a uh an expert on the issue when in fact that that was um outside of the envelope, so to speak, and we you no longer have a quorum, ma'am.

Correct.

Correct.

I don't have a quorum, so we have to recess to the call of the chair.

I'm sorry, I didn't catch the first part.

I'm gonna give it if there's no objection to reopening public comment, but then you're reopening it for anyone.

Did he call in during the the allotted time?

Yeah, so then you you're not reopening it, you just found him.

Okay.

I don't think.

Yeah, I'm not the lawyer, I just advise this out beforehand instead of on the fly.

You know, what's something called?

We've we've done writing on it.

Good morning, everyone.

I would like to call to order uh our public health and safety standing committee for today, Monday 20th, 2025, with the October 2025.

Maybe the clerk please call the roll.

Councilmember Gabiella Santiago Romero.

Present.

Councilmember Scott Benson.

Council member member Mary Waters.

Member Waters did indicate she would be absent today.

Clerk has noted.

Madam Chair, you have a quorum present.

Thank you, Madam Clerk.

Given a quorum, we'll go right into our 1030 a.m.

public hearing.

Um it sounds like our public, our subject matter experts slash co-sponsor has sent in his letter.

He is all set, does not need to share anything else with us today.

Um and I have no other questions or comments.

Um does our vice chair have anything?

Yes, Vice Chair.

Um, what has been brought to my attention is that baseball players may still use chewing tobacco on the field.

Although that has been banned by the by MLB in 2016.

Those who use before that date have been grandfathered into the practice.

How will that impact and be enforced on those grandfather players?

Through the chair, that's a fantastic question, Councilmember Benson.

It's my understanding that this ordinance should apply to Joe Smith as much as it does to Spencer Torkelson or Tarek Scuble.

Um that that is a fantastic question about the the grandfathering.

I I I don't have an answer at this time for that.

I can definitely prepare one before we meet on uh formal session to address that, but it's my understanding that this ordinance applies a blanketly across for both spectators and players.

Thank you.

Thank you.

It's for the discussion.

Detroit would not be unique in banning chewing tobacco from a stadium.

We were actually getting to the game a little later than most.

And 2016.

So now you have nine years of grandfather players.

Not sure how many players are still in the league who chew tobacco at this late stage.

So through the chair, it's becoming a shorter list.

Last time I was at Comerica, there was uh not many players younger than me or older than me at this point.

So just food for thought.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Look forward to that report.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

All right.

Uh so again, pretty straightforward ordinance.

We've gone through public comments for this ordinance.

Is there a motion to send the ordinance to formal with the recommendation to approve?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, our 10:30 a.m.

public hearing, our ordinance regarding smokeless tobacco products will be sent to formal session with the recommendation to approve.

Hearing no objections, that will be sent over.

Thanks, everyone.

I will now close out our 10:30 a.m.

public hearing and move us along to the rest of the agenda.

We are under unfinished business.

We are at 6.13, correct?

Thank you.

6.13 is a petition of the Hamelhook.

This is re uh requesting an encroachment for an on-site's insulation advertising sign.

Um I know that I held this back to make sure that there were conversations happening with the um the incoming company.

I believe my office is working on that.

Um, so I have no other objections and no other questions.

I'm not sure.

I I know member waters also wanted to have conversations with residents.

Um I feel comfortable moving this to formal, holding it if needy if need be.

Um, but if there's nothing else, is there a motion to approve 6.13?

And move the formal motion.

Hearing no objections, 6.13 will be approved, sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

Um, noting for my team, let's check with ourselves, our community team and member waters that we did have that discussion with tenants.

Thank you, Miss Duncan.

6.14 is a memo relative to concerns about aviatus uh specialty services corporation.

There is a resolution for this later on the agenda, so those can be received and filed.

Motion hearing no objections 6.14 would be received and filed under new business.

7.1 through 7.3 are various construction and demolition contracts.

7.1 is contract number 600 4618, amendment number two to provide an extension of time only for maintenance repairs at facilities throughout the city.

Contractors W3 JJ Barney.

This is a joint venture.

They're located in Detroit.

The extended time will go towards through the uh December 31st, 2025.

7.2 is contract number 6004494, amendment number two to provide an extension of time only for maintenance repairs at facilities throughout the city.

Contractor is the Angeles Diamond Construction, they're located in Novi.

This will extend their time through December 31st, 2025.

And 7.3 contract number 600495 and amendment number two to provide an extension of time and increase the funds for maintenance repairs at facilities throughout the city.

Contractor is Gandalf, they're located in Detroit.

They will now run through June 30th, 2026, and the increased amounts will be 500,000, bringing their total contracts to two million.

Is there a motion to discuss to approve a discussion?

7.1 through 7.3.

Uh motion to approve.

Here um with discussion.

Um and I believe we have with us today.

Ums Sullivan, if you are on with us, do we have anyone to discuss 7.1 through 7.3 with us today?

For the chair today, we have counts and our declaration.

If we can move uh our group exec counts over as a panelist.

Good morning, Luan Cowell's group executive for construction and building operations.

Good morning.

Thank you for joining us.

We're discussing 7.1 through 7.3.

Um, just if you wouldn't let us know, 7.1 and 7.2.

Um, extended contracts through the end of this year.

Um, and just want to make sure if you wouldn't mind sharing with us, how much is left?

Um, to do and will December 2025 be enough time to complete the remaining uh work.

Oh, I see somebody else has joined us.

Good morning.

If you wouldn't mind stating your name and title for the public.

Good morning.

This is Arnita Clark from the Office of Contract and Procurement.

Thank you for joining us, Ms.

Clark.

Uh, to our group exec.

Um, through the chair.

Actually, we have these contracts extended because we have new contracts that are in the pipeline.

Um, and we're just allowing ourselves the coverage to be able to have um contracting services should we need it between now and when those new contracts are in place.

Understood.

And there is no increase of funds for these contracts.

Um, you have enough to complete before we go into the new contracts.

Through the chair, yes, we will.

Okay, and then for 7.3, we're adding money.

Um, is this for additional repairs or did we fall short on what we needed?

Through the chairs, these are new repairs that we um were informed about in the last couple of months.

They were not repairs that we had planned on performing in this contract, and so an additional um increase or an increase was required in order for us to complete those services.

Okay, thank you.

Hearing no other questions, there was a motion to approve.

Hearing no objection, 7.1 through 7.3 will be approved, sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

Thank you, group exec.

Thank you, Ms.

Clark.

All right, thank you.

Moving us along, 7.4 through 7.6.

These are more construction and demolition contracts.

7.4 is contract number 3087567.

This is utilizing 100% bond funding for emergency demo at 494 West Hollywood.

Contractor is SC Environmental Services.

They're in Detroit, and this contract is for 30,000.

7.5 is contract number 3087480.

100% bond funding for emergency demo at 5998.

Holbert's hurl butts, contractor SC Environmental Services.

They're in Detroit.

This is for 15,885.

And 7.6 is contract number 3087479, 100% bond funding to provide emergency demo at 2013.

Monty Vista.

Contractor is SC Environmental Services in Detroit, and this will be for 16,982.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss?

7 excuse me, 7.4 through 7.6.

Motion to approve.

Hearing no objection, 7.4 through 7.6 will be approved, sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

7.7 contract number 6007 478.

100% city funding to provide class A CDL training to CDD employees.

Contractors, Michigan Truck Driving School, they're located in Detroit.

This will go through July 27th, 2026, and the contract will be for 100,000.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 7.7?

Motion to approve.

Hearing no objections, 7.7 will be approved, sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

7.8 is contract number 6007 201.

100% CIP funding.

This is to provide sewer condition assessments, CIP developments, and design services.

The contractor is DLZ Michigan Inc., they're located in Detroit.

It's a three-year contract for 15 million 915, 746.

And this would be for the Detroit Water and Sewer Departments.

Is there a motion to approve with discussion?

7.8.

Motion.

Thank you.

Miss Sullivan, who do we have to discuss 7.8?

Through the chair.

Today we have Sonali Patel on.

If we can move them over as a panelist.

And Brian Peck and Pa.

If we can move them both over as panelists.

Lastly, Marcatia Welsh.

Were you able to catch all the names, Ms.

Duncan?

It looks like it.

Thank you.

As folks join us, if you wouldn't mind stating your name and title for the public Good morning, Madam Chair.

This is Brian Peckapot, Public Affairs Director for Detroit Water and Sewage Department.

Good morning.

Thank you for joining us.

Good morning, Madam Chair.

Sonali Patel, Detroit Water and Sewage Department, Public Affairs.

Good morning.

Good morning, Marquisha Welch, uh procurement and supply chain manager for Detroit Water and Source Department.

Good morning.

Thank you all for joining us.

We are discussing 7.8, our 15 million dollar contract.

If folks wouldn't mind sharing with the public, uh, what this capital improvement program is and what it looks like.

So this contract is a sewer condition assessment contract for DWSD sewer infrastructure.

Um, it includes work for installation of sewer floor monitoring, hydraulic hydraulic modeling, capital improvement planning and development as well as design services.

This contract supports DWSD's engineering division with necessary upgrades and improvement needed to be incorporated into our CIP planning program.

The work under this contract helps DWSD analyze our sewer assets and their current condition based on risk and critical repairs that may be needed.

This project in particular will assess 39 miles of sewer, about 750 manholes and 250 catch basins to determine if they are structurally and or operationally deficient and what those deficiencies are, so that we are able to incorporate them into our CIP plan scheduled work for improvements.

This contract was advertised uh by procurement for 42 calendar days.

We did receive two responsive proposals.

Um DLZ was the highest rank based on their ability to perform the work, uh their work plan and organization, as well as their staff experience and costs.

Um, this contract will be funded by DWSD's capital funds and DLZ is a Detroit certified business, and they have committed to about 30% Detroiters to be assigned to perform this work.

Um, this contract was approved by our Board of Water Commissioners on July the 16th and approved by the mayor on July the 30th.

Um, this is assessment and criticality work.

And so a lot of this work is a part of what we use before an actual contract to implement and complete the repairs is done.

And so this is phase one.

And then once we determine what those deficiencies are, um, and we advertise for a contract to complete the repairs, then those contracts will come back before the uh council for approval as well.

And so I'll yield for additional questions, um, or if our DWSD other colleagues have any additional comments that they would like to add.

Any other comments?

Discussion.

Vice Chair.

All right, thank you.

So looking at this, $15 million for 39 miles is about $384,000 per mile.

So it seems to be very expensive for assessments.

What's actually involved in this assessment?

You also indicated that there would be manhole covers.

But how much labor is involved in a contract in an assessment of this nature?

Just I just want to figure out why it costs so much.

Through the chair, uh Councilmember Benson, I can answer that question.

That's a very good question.

So uh this is very intensive assessment.

So, in order for us to assess the number of miles of sewer that we just spoke about, um, we have to go and clean the sewer, which is a benefit to the community when we clean the sewer.

We have to clean the sewer and the basins and then go with flow monitoring and cameras to inspect the sewer.

We're also while we're doing this inspection, we're also letting our customers know residents and businesses in these areas if they have uh collapsed private sewer lines so we can let them know that that needs to be addressed by their uh by the homeowner or a business owner, and we refer them to the private sewer repair program if they're a um homeowner or the basement backup program.

So there are uh extensive assessments, cleaning, putting a robot camera in the sewer, and then um cleaning the basins and vacuuming them out as well.

Now I'd also like to mention uh, madam chair that DLZ is one of the contractors that worked on the Southwest Detroit Waterman project for inspections.

Okay, thank you.

And then it was mentioned that there would be about there's a commitment to hire around 30 percent Detroiters.

Any idea about how many jobs is would create for the assessments and cleaning of the infrastructure?

I'm not 100% sure.

I think they say that they would have roughly about 10 people assigned for this project in particular, and of those 10 people that'll be on this work, uh three of them are contradictory.

Okay.

Uh and it's a three-year contract.

Um I this just seems like a lot of work for 10 folks.

Is that the norm?

I'm not 100% sure, but I would say yes, because some of it has to do with CC uh televising, sewer cleaning and inspection is only 39 miles, and then the rest of the work is like uh I don't want to say digital, but it's like dropping those points into some of our systems and using heat maps and different things like that to show the areas where the deficiencies are.

So some of it is like technology done and not just necessarily field done.

So 10 employees I would say would assume would be sufficient.

Got it.

Okay, understood.

Thank you.

Okay.

Uh Vice Chair.

All right, thank you.

So we've indicated there's cleaning, but looking at the TEDA report does not mention cleaning as one of the services provided.

And so there will be cleaning in addition to the assessment and the collection of data and the hydraulic modeling through the chair, uh, council member Benson.

Uh yes, in order for them to get into the sewer with a robot camera, they do need to clean before they get into the sewer.

Okay.

And so in this contract at 389,000 per mile, are we paying for the labor here?

Or are we paying for the brain power and the computer modeling?

I mean, what's what's the heaviest portion of this contract?

That part I am not sure.

We did have our engineer on the line as well.

Um, if you could raise your hand and maybe be promoted as a uh panelist to be able to give that background $73 per foot.

And just for another metric, this is $73 per foot to do this work.

Obviously, that adds up quickly.

Do you see the hand raised, Ms.

Duncan?

Yes, madam chair, they're rejoining.

Thank you.

Council Member Benson, can you please repeat your question so that Pay can respond?

Thank you.

All right, thank you.

So looking at this contract, we're looking at about 389,000 per mile to effectuate the contract.

My question is cleaning is involved.

It doesn't state that in the TEDA report, but where is the heaviest portion of the cost?

Is it in the cleaning?

Is it in the hydraulic modeling?

Is it in the uh assessments uh in the sewer flow monitoring?

Where which is the heaviest, most expensive part, costly part of this contract.

Good morning, madam chair, Mr.

Councilmember.

Um, the heaviest portion will likely be on this project would be the actual cleaning assessment, because the contractor DLZ will have crews who would be in the field during the cleaning and the assessment.

Okay.

Additionally, we also have a component of this project where they will provide construction assistance, as Makisha said earlier when we'll go into the CIP work.

Okay.

So they're actually they will actually be crews in the sewers below ground, helping to clean out the sewers, correct?

That is correct.

Cleaning, and then the assessment of the uh sewers and cash basins.

Okay, and this is all sewer work, no stormwater sewer, no sanitary, don't know water, drinking water.

No, no, no, sir.

This is all uh combined uh sanitor floor uh uh job.

Okay, thank you.

It's very helpful.

You're welcome, sir.

Got it.

Thank you.

That is helpful.

Okay, uh, well, thank you all.

And hearing no other questions, there was a motion to approve.

Hearing no objections, seven points eight will be approved, sent to formal uh with the recommendation to approve.

Appreciate everyone's time and answering those questions for us.

Thank you.

Chair, we're requesting to move this item to new business.

Is there a motion to do so?

No motion.

There is vice chair.

And so in the past, my colleagues made it very clear.

Contracts of this size move to new business, bring a level of scrutiny.

And so my motion, and I support this is to bring this, make this to regular business as a direct result of that scrutiny and advocacy with my colleagues in the past.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Uh so this will go to regular business and encourage folks to reach out to the rest of the council members and brief them on this contract because there will be questions regarding this contract.

But thank you all.

Moving us along.

I are discussing now 7.9.

7.9 through 7.13.

These are health department contracts.

7.9 is contract number 6005071, amendment number one.

This is a grant to provide an increase of funds for service for ending the HIV epidemic.

This is the Ryan White HIV AIDS program.

Contractor is Oakland Livingston Human Service Agency.

They're located in Pontiac.

The increased amount will be for 39,147 with two cents.

Is contract number 600507175 amendment number one?

Grants funded increase of funds for services ending the HIV epidemic for the Ryan White HIV AIDS program.

Contractor here is community health awareness group.

They're located in Detroit.

This will increase their funds to 985,212 with 61 cents.11.

This is contract number 6005079.

Amendment number one.

Grants funded increase of funds for services through the Wayne State University Horizons program for ending the HIV epidemic.

The Ryan White AIDS program.

Contractors Wayne State University.

They have an increase of funds of 81,324 with 45 cents.

And 7.12 is contract number 6005074.

Amendment number two.

Grant funded to provide an increase of funds for services ending the HIV epidemic.

The Ryan White Age program.

This contract is for matrix human services located in Detroit.

Their increased amount will be 629,493 with 31 cents.

This will increase their amounts by 374, 398 with 6 cents.

Motion to approve discussion.13.

Madam Chair, I don't see either of those panelists on.

Are they under a different name by any chance?

Miss Sullivan, would you happen to know?

Do you see them?

I do not can we please move this item to the end of the agenda.

Hearing no objections without objection, 7.9 through 7.13 will be brought back.

Vice Chair.

I had questions on 7.9 and 7.13.

I'm okay moving 7.10, 11, and 12 forward.

Those are all located in Detroit.

I want to make sure we get the questions asked.

I know they'll come up at the table if we don't.

So we're coming back to 9 and 13.

Yes.

So there is a motion to approve 7.10, 7.11, and 7.12.

Motion.

Hearing no objections, those three items, 710, 712, 71, will all be approved.

We will come back to 79 and 713 at the end of the agenda.

And chair motion to move 710 through 12 to new business.

Hearing no objections, 7.10, 7.11, and 7.12 will be approved.

Sent to new business.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Moving us along.

These are all CVI contracts.

7.14.

This is contract number 6005401.

Amendment number four.

ARPA funding to provide an increase of funds and extension of time.

An amend contract terms and conditions for services to reduce violent crime in Detroit.

Contractor here is Detroit Friends and Family.

They're located in Detroit.

This will extend their time through September 30th, 26, and increase their funds by 866,910.

7.15, contract number 6005402, amendment number four.

ARPA funding, extension of time and increase of funds, and change of contract and conditions for CBI.

This contract is for Detroit People's Community.

They're located in Detroit.

Their amended contract will be through September 30th, 2026, and increased by 866,910.

7.16, contract number 6005413, amendment number four.

ARPA funded extension of time and increase of funds with amended contract terms and conditions for CVI tactics.

Contractor here is force Detroit.

And they have an increased amount of 1 million for the 1910.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 7.14 through 7.16?

Uh motion to approve with discussion.

With discussion, Miss Sullivan, who do we have to discuss 7.14 through 7.16?

Through the chair, we have Mike Peterson.

If we can make them into a panelist, please rejoin as a panelist, madam chair.

Thank you.

Miss Duncan, are they a panelist?

Um says he's rejoining again.

He might have fallen off, madam chair.

Got it.

But I did find him.

Here he is, madam chair.

Thank you.

Good morning.

If you wouldn't mind stating your name and title for the public.

My question is gonna be directed to the office of contracting procurement on this one.

Uh Ms.

Do we have anyone from OCP?

Through the chair, we have Sonia Clifter.

If we can make them into a panelist good morning, Sonia Clifton, Office of Contract and Procurement.

Good morning, Vice Chair.

All right, thank you.

Ms.

Clifton, looking at the contracts for the CVI providers indicate 100% ARPA funding, and they run through September 30, 2026.

My understanding that the ARPA funds need to be encumbered by June 30, 26.

How does this impact a contract date through September 30, 2026?

And are these 100% ARPA funded contracts?

However, we did submit a correction letter this week indicating that it will be getting funding.

I'm trying to pull up that letter right now so I can read it verbato.

But um, you are correct.

This the ARPA funding does have to be encumbered and uh exhausted by that certain date.

Therefore, this particular contract will utilize funds as well.

And you can just say general funds, no, state funds.

Okay.

Yes.

Uh, and um my computer's a little bit slow, but I can uh get you that information momentarily.

I just wanted to verify that that was the case.

Do we have that correction letter and should we walk that on for approval today?

I do see that it was submitted um today, and the it should be 100% ARPA grant and city funded okay for all four contracts.

Has that been requested to be walked on?

And if we know that we need to have a correction letter, should we can we get that done today to ensure that through the chairmontum of these contracts?

I beg your pardon.

Uh through the chair member Benson, I will verify that that uh should probably be walked on, and we can absolutely get that today.

All right, and that's a request of the chair then.

That's yes.

If you don't mind sending that correction letter over, we can walk that on.

Absolutely.

Thank you.

All right, thank you.

So then base so then these contracts, the timeline is correct through September 30, 2026.

We just need to correct the funding sources for the that is correct.

Okay.

So you should have them.

Correct at 952 this morning.

So we do have the four correction letters.

Um, Madam Clerk, it was sent to the clerk's office.

Chair, we received the four correction letters.

Okay, so then is there a motion to walk on the four correction letters?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, we will walk on the four correction letters for these four CVI contracts.

Thank you.

Those are gonna be moved uh for approval.

Uh are there any other questions for 7.14 through 7.16?

We are discussing, we received four correction letters.

We're discussing three contracts.

Um actually uh the 7.17.

Uh this contract, this is contract number 6005412, amendment number four.

This is the fourth CVI contract.

Is there a motion to discuss?

Discussion.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

This one we were going to bring back in one week, I believe you had questions regarding this one.

Yes.

Okay, so then we can walk on the correction letters for 7.14 through 7.16.

We can walk on all four, but just knowing we're gonna hold back 7.17, so they're all into the uh the ecosystem.

So they're all into the uh the ecosystem.

Okay, so they're all on the agenda.

Um you had another question, vice chair?

No, not for those first three.

Okay, so if there's no other questions, um, we have our correction letters for 7.14 through 7.17.

Um 7.17 just to put it on the record.

Uh this contract is CVI contract for new era community.

They're located in Detroit, and this would also extend their period through September 30th, 2026, and increase their amounts to 691,910.

And this one we will bring back.

And if there are no other questions, is there a motion to approve 7.14 through 7.16?

Um motion with the correction letters attached.

Hearing no objections, 7.14 through 7.16 will be approved, sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

Motion is in the new business 7.14 through 7.16.

Hearing no objection, 7.14 through 7.16 will be approved, sent to new business with the recommendation to approve, and 7.17.

Is there a motion to bring back in one week?

Motion.

Hearing no objection, 7.17 is going to be brought back in one week.

Thank you all for joining us.

Discussion.

Vice Chair.

Just looking at the correction letters.

Want to make sure that I'm clear here.

Uh the letters indicate ARPA grant city funding.

So is the grant funding state?

Through declared a member Brampton.

Um, the information I have states that it is state budget funding.

Okay.

So the grant does so in the correction letter, it indicates grant, doesn't say state, but it does say grant.

So are we going on a limb saying that this is the grant does equate to the state funding?

Through the chair member Benson, that's the information I have, but I will verify with the budget department as well as the deep procurement officer.

All right, and we're gonna have that for tomorrow's session, please.

That'd be very helpful.

Thank you.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Moving us along to 7.18.

This is contract number 6005076, amendment number one utilizing grants funding to provide an increase of funds for program administrator for coordinating and managing medical and supportive services for low-income under insured or uninsured persons leaving with HIV.

In the Metro Detroit area, contractor is neighborhood legal services, Michigan.

They're located in Detroit.

This will be extended through February 28th, 2026.

Increased amount of 29,078 and 62 cents.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 7.18?

Motion to approve.

Hearing no objection, 7.18 will be approved, sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

Motion is in the new business.

7.18.

Hearing no objection, 718 will be sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

7.19 through 7.22 are all public work contracts.

719 is contract number 600 5330.

Amendment number one utilizing 100% major street funding.

This is to provide an extension of time only for construction engineering and inspection services.

Contractor is NOWAC.

They are located in Detroit.

This will extend their time through December 31st, 2026.

7.20 is contract number 600 2858 amendment number four.

Major street funding to provide an extension of time only for electrical design, geometric design, and intelligence transportation system services.

Contractor is WSP Michigan located in Detroit.

Their time is extended through August 31st, 2026.

7.21 is contract number 6005329 amendment number one, 100% major street funding to provide an extension of time only for construction engineering and inspection services.

Contractor is AECOM located in Detroit.

Their time will be approved through December 31st, 2027.22 is contract number 6007456, 100% major funding to provide square tube signed post and acres.

Contractors MD solutions, they're located in Ohio.

This will be for one year period at 107,000 35 dollars.

And again, all of these will be for public works.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 7.19 through 7.22?

Motion to approve.

Hearing no objection, 7.19 through 7.22 will be approved.

Central formal with the recommendation to approve.

7.23 contract number 6005671 amendment number one.

This is 100% grant city funding.

This is going to increase funds only for bus wrap repair.

Contractor is Hockeform Printing and Graphics.

They're located in Detroit.

This increased amount will be for 110,000, bringing their total contract to 305,000.

And this will be for transportation.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 7.23?

Motion to approve.

Hearing no objection, 7.23 will be approved.

Sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

7.24 is contract 6007484.

100% capital funding.

This is for a OEM transit fleet cameras and square parts.

The contractor is Sion Design.

And we are being asked to bring this back.

This would be for do it.

We are being being asked to bring this back in one week to make sure that we have a COGS report for this contract.

If there is a motion to bring this back in one week, motion.

Hearing no objection, 7.24 is going to be brought back in one week.

Under the Department of Appeals and Hearings.

Discussion.

Who ensures the different departments comply with that ordinance?

It's a good question.

I know that Director Stahl reached out to me about this as well.

Not sure if she's online to answer whether or not she's the one that's responsible for enforcements of the ordinance.

I'm gonna assume it's the responsibility of the administration in general.

Um, but not sure.

Miss Sullivan, do you have anyone from the administration that might be able to answer that question?

Is there anyone online from do it at all?

Through the chair, not at this time.

I will follow up with this quest.

Okay.

Well, she won't bring this to the end of the agenda.

Okay.

Oh, just coming, it's coming back.

If we can still move to the end of agenda, just get an answer.

You know, never mind, we'll get it next week.

Okay, thank you, Miss Sullivan.

If you wouldn't mind making sure um that we know who is responsible for COGs, um, we would appreciate that when this comes back to committee for discussion.

Under the departments of appeals and hearings, 7.25 and 7.26 are both dangerous buildings findings and order.

7.25 is for September 12th, 2025, and 7.26 is for September 19th, 2025.

Is there a motion to receive and file?

Uh motion.

Hearing no objection, 7.25 and 7.26 will be received and filed.

Under the department's uh building safety engineering and environmental seven points twenty-seven is a recommendation for for deferral of 7322 Chicago.

7.28 is a recommendation for deferral at 9249 Bedford, and 7.29 is a recommendation for recession for property located at 19175 Anglen.

Is there a motion to concur with the department's recommendations?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, we will concur with the recommendations of B seed.

7.30 is a request to accept and appropriate the fiscal year 2026 Michigan opioids settlements prevention grants.

7.31 is to accept and appropriate the fiscal year 2025 sections 5304 transit capital update program design and engineering grants.

And 7.32 is a request to accept an increase in appropriation for the fiscal year 2023.

Sections 5307 formula fund grant.

Is there a motion to approve to new business 7.30 through 7.32?

Motion.

Hearing no objection, 7.30 through 7.32 will be approved.

Sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

Under LPD, legislative policy division 7.33.

This is questions on the Detroit ordinance and policies regarding the use of vape products.

This was through member waters office.

We can receive and file.

Motion.

Hearing no objection, 7.33 will be received and filed.

7.34 and 7.35.

We have already approved.

So these can be removed without objection.

7.34 and 7.35.

734 is a resolution urging the legislature of Michigan to repeal public acts 389 and 7.35 is proclaiming October as domestic violence awareness month.

Without objection, both of these will be removed from our agenda for today.

7.36 is a resolution recognizing October as national estates planning month.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss?

Motion to approve it's in a new business.

Hearing no objection, 7.36 would be approved sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

737 resolution regarding concerns about the aviated specialty services corporation.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss?

Uh motion to approve.

Hearing no objections, 7.37 will be approved, sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

7.38 is a resolution to proclaim November as Family Court Awareness Month.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss?

Motion to approve.

Hearing no objection, 7.38 will be approved.

Sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

Under Department of Public Works Administration, 7.39 is a resolution to permit West Werner and Springwell's business improvement district to install 230 banners along West Werner and Springwells.

7.40 is a resolution to permit the downtown Detroit partnership to install 260 banners on Michigan Avenue, Cass Congress, Washington, Monroe, Griswold States, Madison, Bobby, and Woodward, and Jefferson.

This will be further seasonal lighting around downtown.

Is there a motion to approve to new business 7.39 and 7.40?

Motion to approve.

Hearing no objections, 7.39 and 7.40 will be approved.

I'm sure you send those requests also to do business.

Yes, thank you.

Will be sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Under miscellaneous 7.41 is a memo relative to request for legal opinion on process to close.

Cronos concrete ND3, Vice Chair.

Uh motion to approve.

Hearing no objection, 7.41.

This is the memo, vice chair.

Motion to refer to the law department for an opinion.

There's been a motion to refer this to the law department.

The law department through the chair if we could get a three-aweek bring back.

Three weeks.

Motion.

Hearing no objection, 7.41 will be referred to the law departments and be brought back in three weeks.

Moving us along.

7.42 is a memo relative to request for resolution recognizing national estate planning.

We have the resolution.

This can be received and filed.

Motion.

Hearing no objection, 7.42 will be received and filed.

7.43 memo relative to request for report on the travel in.

We've been asked to bring this back in three weeks.

Motion.

Hearing no objection, 7.43 is going to be brought back in three weeks.

We are at member reports, but we have to go back to 7.9 and 7.13.

Miss Sullivan, do we have anyone to discuss 7.9 and 7.13?

I believe we needed someone from OCP, correct?

Miss Sullivan.

Through the chair, we have Christina Floyd from the Health Department.

Okay.

And that there was a motion to discuss.

If we can thank you, if we can make uh Ms.

Floyd into a panelist.

Choose your joining as a panelist, madam chair.

Thank you.

Good morning to the chair.

Christina Floyd, Deputy Director of Public Health and Detroit Health Department.

Good morning.

Thank you for joining us.

We have questions for 7.9 and 7.13.

I'll turn it over to our vice chair.

Thank you, Ms.

Floyd.

Thank you for being here today.

A question regarding these two grants, uh, both out of Oakland County.

I didn't see in the TD report how they specifically support the residents of Detroit.

I know my colleagues will often be concerned about seeing a grant that's based out of Oakland County out of Pontiac, which is quite a distance from our northern border.

Just how do these support our residents who are living to prevent them from having the complications from HIV?

Through the chair to Councilmember Vincent.

So these uh grants are through our uh what's called Ryan White, uh, which is a uh grant that uh covers metropolitan Detroit, which includes Oakland.

Um our primary focus is the Detroit area.

Uh and so any of the residents within Detroit, uh obviously the services are provided uh to them.

Uh, but we uh do have the span of um uh as they say standard service uh out into the metropolitan area based off of these federal funds given to us.

And so for 7.9, uh, which is the uh ending the epidemic, uh that particular project focuses on our uh service providers uh that do mobile services uh as well as uh some medical services, and we uh uh do major events really within the city with our state partner uh who funds the program, uh, but also again those who uh are uh within uh Oakland area uh and some other areas are able to come for that's 7.9.

Was there anything um else needed for 7.9 before I go to 7.13?

Discussion just want to verify that these the money that we are approving goes to our residents and isn't supporting other residents unless they're in the city of Detroit, someone comes into the city.

Um I'm hoping we're not gonna tell somebody if you have a debilitating health issue that you can't get services, but just want to make sure that we are receiving those services for our residents.

It sounds like we are, but they are just provided out of Oakland County, correct?

So yes, so the the way that is set up, so yes, that contractor is there.

So our residents and uh I'm sorry, through the chair uh to council member.

We have uh the ability that for our residents um who may have uh say, for instance, transportation services, we have funding that supports uh them to be able to get to the contractor for those services.

So just because the contractor is uh uh in Pontiac does not mean that our residents cannot receive it.

So our residents most certainly do receive it and have been receiving it for quite some time.

Uh, and those who have any barriers uh to those services, we uh obviously make sure that those barriers are removed by either transportation, teleservices, or uh any other um resources that we may have to provide.

So most certainly it is for uh Detroit residents as well as those uh within that region.

All right, thank you.

Um, the same question for uh 713.

Uh okay through the chair, uh again is the same thing, uh, even though they're on um uh nine miles in Southville again.

If we have residents who have any barriers to getting to this uh location, we have uh resources that gets them there.

Uh and then uh again, this is through our uh Ryan White, uh it's not through the uh ending epidemic, but these are for our uh medical services uh through um our Ryan White contract who we've had with this particular contractor for a while as well.

Um, and to that point, we have been able to have our Detroit residents get to this location um and be able to have provided services as needed.

Okay, thank you.

Yes, thank you, Vice Chair.

Um, Ms.

Floyd, just one request for myself.

I believe moving forward, um, it would be helpful to get a quarterly reports on these services, and um we can meet again around what that looks like.

There's a lot of things that the health department actually does.

And I'm not sure if you if you've heard during public comments, um, residents asking um us to do more.

Uh, but I know that there's a lot that's already done.

Um, so I think it would be helpful to begin to do quarterly reports on some of the services provided by the health department to the public.

Um, so looking forward to having that discussion um and having that be um a cadence set that we begin um hopefully top of next year.

But that's my only um comments uh requests on on my ends.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I do have that request button now.

All right, thank you.

This was for 7.19 and 7.13.

Is there a motion to approve to send to new business?

Motion.

Hearing no objection, 7.9 and 7.13 will be approved, sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

Madam Clerk, I believe that's all of our items correct.

Through the chair, unless Member Benson wanted to have a discussion on that 7.24, then we're all done.

Because we're gonna bring that one back in a week, I believe.

Member Benson, are you okay with bringing that back and discussing later?

Yes.

Okay, thank you.

Through the chair.

Uh yes, attorney Anderson.

There's been a request to move the uh public hearing, the chapter 31 uh smokeless tobacco ordinance to new business if this body is willing.

Vice Chair motion.

Hearing no objection, our 10:30 a.m.

ordinance regarding smokeless tobacco will be sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

All right, if there's nothing else to come before us, member Benson member reports.

Um thank you.

I just wanted to acknowledge Cunningham.

Uh we have been D dot has been placing and um acknowledged DDOT for placing the refurbished bus shelters into the third district.

And as Cunningham has reported out that those are making a difference, and the riders are appreciative of having those shelters while not new.

Uh a refurbished shelter is better than no shelter when it's hot, when it's windy, when it's raining, or when it's extremely cold.

And so just want to acknowledge Cunningham for his advocacy in this space as well as D Dot for making that happen.

And I was really concerned that we were not seeing any of the new shelters, but a workaround temporarily for the third district was to ensure that we got referral shelters uh for our residents.

So just want to acknowledge those and say thank you to Cunningham for his continued advocacy for our public transit writers.

Thank you.

Thank you, Member Benson.

No report for me.

Just a reminder that we do have our 1 30 p.m.

Dangerous Buildings findings or dangerous buildings hearings again at 1 30 here.

So if you are online, um we ask that you come back if you are going to join us for a hearing at 1 30.

And with that, we will stand at recess till 1 30 today.