Shall be taken.

Good morning, media services.

Oh, there we are.

We are going to move into general public comment.

If there is anyone joining us virtually for general public comment, please raise your hand.

Please raise your hand.

We do not have anyone here in the committee of the whole.

So we're going to cut off public comment.

In three seconds.

If you'd like to make a public comment, please raise your hand.

Public comment will be cut off in three.

Two.

One, the collection of public comments have now concluded.

And good morning, Ms.

Jackson.

How many hands do we have raised?

Morning, Madam Chair, we have hands raised for virtual public comments.

How many hands do we have raised?

13.

Yes.

Okay.

If we can set the clock for two minutes, we are going to move through public comment as swiftly as possible.

And who's our first caller?

Our first caller is Galaxy S22 Ultra.

Good morning, Mr.

Holloway.

Galaxy S22 Ultra.

You have two minutes for general public comment.

Good morning.

Good morning, uh Council Johnson and Console Callaway.

I ain't calling starting no trouble.

I just call are we?

Did we hear anything else about this crisis over here?

Well on the east side.

Are they going to give us anything else?

Or that's what I call for.

I'm not sure.

I'm not sure if we uh they came to the table yet.

I know one time you were saying they supposed to come to the table.

I'm not sure.

So uh that's what I was calling for.

You know, I talked to uh yesterday.

Hope you guys uh uh have a good day or try to have a good day.

And uh I'm through with my minutes.

All right, thank you so much for calling in.

Um, there is currently a neighborhood beautification grant that is open, uh, particularly for neighborhoods and and block clubs within the impact area of Stillantis.

Um, the application process closes on Friday, October 24th.

Um, so that is one thing that is currently going on as a result of the community benefits agreement.

In addition to that, the grant phase three grant for Stellantis, uh, the application process has closed.

Individuals have been notified, and the work should start fairly soon if it hasn't started already.

Um, so those are the two things that have happened, and Stellantis did come to the table last year.

Um, and we had a conversation relative to uh an increase in home improvement dollars to be provided to those in the impact area.

All right, thank you so much for calling in.

And madam clerk, if you will please note that member waters has joined us.

Thank you.

Thank you, madam chair.

Who's our next caller?

Our next caller is William M.

Davis.

William M.

Davis, you have two minutes for general public comment.

Uh good morning, young ladies.

Can I be heard?

Good morning, yes.

Okay, like I start off by saying, I think the city of Detroit needs to do more in general for a city of Detroit retirees.

Also separately, as some of you may know, I worked for the city of Detroit for the Water Department for 34 years.

Uh, throughout the whole time I worked for the water department.

If any water department employee was involved in any accident, they automatically went and took uh blood and you know, like I said, took was tested for alcohol or drugs.

Why is that not even happening today with the Detroit police department?

You know, there are a lot of vehicle accidents, and I think that that should be looked into more closely.

Uh, also I think more needs to be done to reduce the vast number of lawsuits that the city of Detroit is involved with, that they indemnifying people.

Uh perhaps this should be a caveat that if you uh violate city rules, policies, and procedures are doing something unethical or illegal, that the city of Detroit should not be representing you as other municipalities do.

Also, I'm I'm strongly in favor of a domestic violence task force, and more needs to be done to reduce domestic violence in the city of Detroit.

More needs to be done to reduce uh mental health crisis.

Uh, because we have a lot of police runs are actually dealing with mental health crisis that should be resolved other ways.

You know, we should be directing our funds the most efficient way, and also be doing more as it relates to the fact that we have uh an epidemic of property for young people in this in the city that has gotten worse, not better, in the last 12 years.

Thank you.

Thank you.

The next caller.

The next caller is not that Karen.

Not that Karen, you have two minutes for general public comment.

Madam Care, it looks like she dropped off.

Okay.

Caller is owner papa.

Owner Papa, you have two minutes for general public comment.

Good morning, Andrew.

The chair may I be heard.

Good morning, yes.

Thank you.

Um, thank you for being prompt and professional.

Um the the what's on the agenda today is a letter that uh I guess the president sent to the clerk.

But the question is not whether they are eligible.

The question is that is it legal to use the jail, the county jail as the address when they're voting.

I I think that's one of the reasons why we don't get anything done because many things are misinterpreted.

Um we have a um risk management funding, extension of time and increase of funds.

We we we have we are beginning to use the general fund dollars as your pocket change, your pocket money, and anything that you think that you want or think the mayor thinks that he wants, he takes it out of our general fund.

We have three times the poverty rate in the United States, while you ladies have sat there and allowed people to get more money and jobs and all of the IT gets more money, and ARPA funds go everywhere except to the people that it came to.

We have three times the poverty rate because you all have diddled, swindled, misappropriated the ARPA funds, cares funds, ARPA dollars.

And now you want to take our surplus property tax dollars.

And I don't, I'm I'm pretty sure this is not legal, and put it in a fund to plug the holes for corporate America.

You all ought to be ashamed, even putting that forward to the voters when you owe us 600 million dollars plus interest.

I'm I'm not sure where we're going, but it doesn't look like we're going anywhere good.

Um we we must change the direction in which we're going and point it toward the residents, and and let's not stop focusing on businesses because obviously it's all a lie.

Thank you.

The next caller.

Next caller is Cunningham.

Cunningham, you have two minutes for general public comment.

Good morning, Cunningham.

Hello, can you hear me?

Yes, we can hear you.

Oh, yes, ma'am.

Thank you.

Good morning, member waters.

Good morning, councilwoman Johnson.

Um everyone at home, 313 4449114, 31344, 9114.

213, 444, 911.

That number was 3134.

Not any on Facebook.

Not any.

So I've been saying uh issues, uh always eating business outreach vehicles, and etc.

Yeah, 4449114 number four nine four.

Here's my cash app and hotline number.

Mr.

Cunningham, your volume is going in and out.

I'm not sure if you're moving or what's going on with your phones.

That's right.

No matter what enemy goes, left or right and endurance, long suffering, long suffering, long suffering.

etc 4449114 number four nine one four is my cash app and hotline number your volume is going in and out i'm not sure if you're moving or what's going on with your phone smart uh all i know to do no matter what in me code left or right and endurance long suffering long suffering long suffering that's my middle name i want you to pray and i'll give you the prayer i pray for you you pray for me our sister big guys just to our heart and that we continue to seek him first my son doctor was uh you don't my son that I'm seeing it about support yellow be it on my son from my son my son that I'm my son that I'm my son of us yeah my son that I'm my son that I must send about my son that's what I'm about to do I'm watching my son that I'm a boss calling thank you the next caller here uh yes member calloway thank you if Mr.

Cuttingham is still listening good morning this is council member callaway I hope you got the box of hand warmers we made sure um we delivered to you yesterday so if you can confirm that when you call back but good morning thank you ma'am chair thank you the next caller next caller is caller inning in 482 caller ending in 482 you have two minutes for general public comment hey all three of y'all listen up that's you councilwoman johnson you consul and waters and sculpty now what's going on here city detroit totally reprehensible y'all been tvding y'all all know y'all TV then gina been teaming elections for years and years and years upon years and now I'm about to demonstrate it to everybody in the whole city and I got these tickets I'm sitting here looking at and I got a court date for these tickets on 114 that's the election day so I'm gonna take this time to put it out there y'all TV then officials y'all been stealing the kids' money taking the kids money building tall shiny building and things they can't afford don't enjoy Angela Callaway you over in district two you TV in Sandra Smith did not vote in that 2021 election and she got asked Valley showing up on the voting road Mary Waters Batissa Johnson I'm over in District 4 and I just relocated again back to district three this cronos facility over here on six mile road just west of Con it is a problem over in district four ain't that Amy chick and you know where I'm talking about Miss Johnson you still haven't visited or came around but now we got the Spring Gardens Gardens block club and the Maple Ridge Garden Block Club that's gonna be formed soon as soon as your district four district manager returns the phone call y'all is bust all right thank you so much and once you get it formed make sure you let us know um and I would like to ask you again to refrain from calling my colleagues names I would appreciate that thank you the next caller next caller is you matter you matter you have two minutes for general public comment you matter may I be recognized you matter we can hear you you can hear me yes okay thank you um number one it's really sad that Mr Holloway comes in calls in for years about the fumes coming out of the plant I mean a neighborhood beautification grant is nice but it's not gonna clean the air i suggest you all take the two week challenge and go live over there and breathe in those fumes for two weeks and tell me how you feel uh mr hallaway call the EPA and tell him what's going on with you because the last administration you know talked about environmental racism and I don't know seems to me what's going on um also I see member Sheffield she claims she serves with integrity and you're and and she's got this memo about investigating the jail matter and voting but I asked her to investigate the lies told about me by the election department and to me by the election department and they won't do a serious investigation.

Also, I went to the Detroit Land Bank Authority meeting yesterday.

Shocking.

I never see any people.

I mean, I haven't been there in a while.

I'm sure they miss me, but they do not record their Zoom meetings.

And why is this board allowed to have people that are don't live in the city of Detroit when just about every other board, the CPC, BZA, they all have to live in Detroit.

So and I asked you all to please make sure they record their Zoom meetings and make them available to the public, but apparently that's not important enough.

The most controversial entity in this government, other than I would say this administration, and uh they don't record their Zoom meetings.

It's disgusting, folks.

And then the other thing that I was gonna say is um uh member Callaway and and and every one of you who voted for the solar takings, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

John Guciali's wife passed away suddenly on Sunday morning, and she suffered the stress that you all were too lazy to put solar on your own buildings, but would take her.

All right, thank you, member Waters.

Thank you.

Um I just want to respond to the to the land bank piece in terms of board members not living in the city and so forth.

We will be introducing the resolution soon.

Um, so that we can renegotiate our intergovernmental agreement with the state of Michigan.

All of those kinds of issues can be addressed at that time, including whether or not they should have Zoom meetings.

Thank you.

Thank you.

The next caller.

Next caller is to hear Ahmed.

To hear Ahmed, you have two minutes for general public comment.

Thank you.

Good morning, good morning, council members.

Thank you for uh your hard work in various areas.

I know that uh you get a lot of beat up because of what you you know are perceived to have not been doing, but what you have done, I do commend you for it.

Uh Councilmember Callaway, I want to commend you for cleaning up our community.

We need to have whatever you do it is duplicated all over the city because when when we see trash and garbage, that's what we think of ourselves and our children have to walk the school in that garbage.

And you've been uh instrumental and giving us dignity back.

Uh, I'd like to suggest that the next mayor need to collaborate, return home stolen in the 100,000 illegal foreclosures, and uh three quarters of a billion dollars stolen in the illegal over taxation.

She or he needs to convene a series of town halls with grassroots citizens, organizations, policy makers, leaders, nonprofits.

Uh, and also they need to be able to give her or him missions.

We need you to number one have new ideas like claw back the 600 million dollars from Gilbert's Hudson deal because it was a breach of contract.

Claw back the illish deals for breach of contracts, and that money will pay for these uh new initiatives.

Failure to fulfill promises should uh give you give you the reason and the footing to be able to claw that uh money back.

We want uh uh repair for all homes, repair grants for all homes and reconvert office spaces to lofts that people own.

Thank you.

The next caller.

The next caller is Stephen Grady.

Stephen Grady, you have two minutes for general public comment.

Good morning, madam chair, and good morning, body.

Um, I agree with the last caller that a lot of times you all get beat down for different things that you're doing, but I know each one of you, and I know each one of you are doing fantastic things in the community.

I'm calling in today to um speak on the new business item 6.1, which is an appeal of the suspension for Gyanga, uh, the company.

Now, uh Gyanga is a company that's a minority business.

It hires Detroiters, it develops youth and gives them access to construction and demolition opportunities.

The OIG received a complaint about Gaionga regarding Dirty Dirt.

However, when the OIG went through their process, they never contacted Ganga directly to address the allegations.

They never informed Gionga of the specific location so Gaionga could conduct independent testing or produce their uh delivery records as it relates to the so-called dirt.

A bridge Detroiter actually went to Northland, uh, which is the location where they said Ganga got the dirt and could find no record of a Gaonga visit.

Any dirt that Gayanga has gotten has been approved by city resources, and the particular company is Ironhorse that is in question.

Um, group executive counts has expressed her concerns about the investigation fairness as well.

So I'm hoping that you will grant their appeal and the um opportunity to speak with counsel about this issue.

Thank you so very much for your time.

You all have a great week.

Thank you.

You as well.

The next caller.

Next caller is Miko A.

Williams.

Miko A.

Williams, you have two minutes for general public comment.

Hello, good morning, counsel.

Uh, I would like to finish my comments from yesterday.

I just praise God each and every day on how he looks over this city.

If it was any other pastor, like Bishop Marvin Wynans, Charles Ellis, Wayne T.

Jackson, or so on that debate stage, they would have dog walked and disrespected Sheffield to the moon.

And people would be clapping.

It is a shame how this city is toxic, negative.

We ain't changed in over 12 years.

And the way that things are going all this year has been a distraction and been nothing but destructures and divisive over our town and its citizens.

We have got to take a look back.

We gotta remember we came from a mighty long way out of emergency management and bankruptcy that broke this town.

People left.

Jobs have disappeared.

Black people have not gotten any just due.

And we are being gentrified and pushed out of our own town that's majority 80% black.

The representatives we elected have failed us.

And no matter what amount of work you've done, you've done it for others.

But what have you done for myself, Mr.

Holloway, and others that continue to come down here and ask you all to do for us for once?

This government is not going to be fixed.

Detroit is broken more than ever.

And you got people turning after they got help from the city of Detroit now want to speak out against the city.

And it's a shame because the same people that are begging and such are not the ones that are contributing to the city of Detroit.

And it's a shame.

You know, I think about the Minister Malik Shabbaz and all the work he's done, and we haven't seen work since then.

Um, I pray for him and I hope that he continues to uh recover.

And we just all need to vote on November 4th and quit all this foolishness.

Thank you for taking my comment.

Thank you.

And I appreciate everyone um being interested in what's happening in District 4 and Mr.

Holloway's concerns.

I hope that you all hear my response to Mr.

Holloway, um, because that seems to be left out of the conversation, but uh this that is an issue that has been worked on for the last four years.

Um, and we did get some improvements in the community.

I know several of my colleagues and I were advocating for improvements, and we have seen them, so I'm not quite certain why the thought is that it hasn't been addressed.

Um the next caller.

Next caller is Melissa Love.

Melissa Love, you have two minutes for general public comment.

And don't feel good to be overlooked and outdoor.

When Cunningham didn't recognize you, Callaway, you didn't like that.

When if uh comments didn't recognize you either, Johnson, you didn't like that as well.

That's how we feel every day.

I'm not kissing but to get what I want.

I'm demanding what I want.

The National Voter Registration Act of 1993 states that the Secretary of State, Janice Winfrey, and whoever else must maintain clean voter roles.

I'm Melissa Love never voted in November 2020 or August 2024.

I will not be silenced in Justice Wilberry.

Served.

I will not stop or be stopped.

I will continue to expose this evil corruption that's been happening all my 34 years of life.

I am here to demand representation over our hoods today.

I am here to collect my share y'all have been stealing from.

Also, I am here to talk about the exciting people mover that y'all keep advertising about.

As I rolled yesterday from Times Square to Greek town and surely after, back to Times Square.

And I noticed entering an exit, as it in Greek town was a pleasurable experience.

But when I enter and exit Times Square, it's deplorable conditions with the foul smell.

And I set and I wonder this exactly how the city do us, the hood, who have been overlooked, ignored with no representation.

I'm sick of it.

It's time to clean, clean it up.

We all deserve a fair chance, whether we have the money, power, fame, or not.

We deserve to have nice things.

The black community deserves pleasurable experiences.

Also, y'all need to put protection back on the people movers.

Cameras ain't enough.

Somebody can seriously get hurt.

It needs to be a live person while people movers is in operation.

I experienced a mental person talking about how big his private is.

Madam Chair, thank you.

Member Callaway.

That's why it's so important to vote so we can get the right people in position and we can increase the budget of the police department so we can get all the people on the people mover and at the bus stations that you are requesting.

So I encourage you to change your mind about voting, Miss Melissa Love.

And also I brought up Mr.

Cunningham's name to make sure that he received the box of hand warmers that my staff gave him yesterday.

Thank you.

Thank you, Member Callaway.

And I just want to uh share that it's not so much about me being recognized or being overlooked or dismissed, um, because that happens every day.

And it's it is it's part of the uh position.

Um, I'm fine with that.

I just ask that the conversation be a complete conversation, uh, that we recognize what has been done.

Um, not isn't certainly not about me.

But thank you so much for calling in.

The next caller.

Our last caller is not that Karen.

Not that Karen, you have two minutes for general public comment.

Hello.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Um yeah, thank you for the um punctuality that you continue to show.

I appreciate that.

And thank you for the two minutes that you gave us to make our comments.

Um, last Thursday, um, a waste management um trash disposal truck, snagged the wires right in front of my great-grandson's school, pulled the pole over to a 90-degree um 45-degree angle, and that was when the kids were getting out of school, right at the door where they let out let the kids out.

So the fire truck was there, and you know, everybody was there except the company that needed to make that deal right.

The next morning when I took him back to school, that situation still existed.

I think that we should have a way to um make sure that these companies, it was the cable, um, cable wires.

It wasn't the high voltage wires, the cable wires.

Well, that truck was pulling up, like I said, when my grandson got out of school the very next day.

I think 24 hours is a long time for that situation, especially it should have an urgency to it when it's right at the school, you know.

So that's that's just one.

Uh President Sheffield's uh debate with uh Reverend Solomon Kenlock, she stated that the retirees had gotten 13th check for the last two years.

That's that's false.

The general retirees didn't get anything.

The police and fire may have gotten it, but the general retirees, so we need to correct that.

Um so people thinking that we're we're getting paid back, we're not getting paid back.

We got one check, 464 dollars, which is real no peanuts compared to what's been taken from us.

So I'd like to see that, you know, somebody look into that and just make sure and know that uh the general retirees are not been considered.

The 13th check is what was uh proposed to throw us into bankruptcy.

So if this 13th check is gonna, you know, harm and it's not even reaching the many, then I think that should be investigated.

Thank you for taking my call.

Thank you so much.

And um, just to share the second 10 million dollars that resulted in additional resources going to the retirees is in progress.

It is in motion.

Um, I can't speak to the 13th check or the amount of it, but it certainly um has been provided uh two 10 million dollar um allotments.

So the second one is in motion, albeit haven't it hasn't been received yet.

Uh but thank you so much for calling in.

All right, that now concludes our general public comment, and we are going to move back to the agenda with our unfinished business beginning with line item 5.1.

Line item 5.1 is the status of council president Mary Sheffield, submit a memorandum relative to request for clarification on voting rights of individuals in county jail.

Colleagues, is there a motion to discuss very briefly?

Motion discussion.

Thank you so much.

So just to share with everyone the um the laws that allow this are MCL 168.758B and MCL 168.492A.

Uh, and so just wanted to put that on the record because the question during public comment was whether or not it is legal.

So those are the two laws that allow for absentee voting for individuals that are detained at the county jail.

Um, if there is anything else, uh please feel free to let us know.

Colleagues, is there a motion to receive and file line item 5.1?

Motion and discussion.

Discussion member waters.

I think the the thing that we want to be able to point out specifically in that law is whether or not they can use the county jail or at what point, and I believe it's after they've been there for 30 days.

I don't know if the law says that specifically.

So do you know, madam chair, if the law specifically says that just so we clarify it?

Uh thank you, Member Waters.

I believe it does.

Um, and I do just want to ask for attorney Anderson to chime in, because to me this is similar to someone who's serving overseas who's requesting an absentee ballot um as it relates to the address that they are using to receive the absentee, uh the absentee ballot.

So attorney Anderson.

Yes, through the Chair Graham Anderson Law Department.

You you're right that it's it's the similar type of logic.

I don't have all the details in front of me right now.

Um I don't have all the clerk's memo, but but uh that that is the the overall uh uh same line of thought, correct?

I I I and thank you, madam chair, and and I appreciate it.

I just want us to be able to highlight it.

So is Chris a clear, you know.

I'm I just needed to, you know, dispose of it, frankly.

Yes.

Um so that's why I said that so at some point um I want that language highlighted, and we can have it on the table so when people come to the meetings, they can get a copy of it.

Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you.

So, member waters, are you asking to bring this back for the specificity?

No, I'm I'm saying your microphone is not on I'm saying if if attorney Anderson could get that law if he doesn't at some point between now and Tuesday, highlight that specific part of it, and I'll make the copies if you want to, and I have them available at formal.

Through through the chair, it might be best going through the clerk's office as this request was originally made to them.

Um clerk doesn't know where the law is what I'm saying.

I'm I'm gonna have confidence in our clerks as they are the ones who responded to this memo.

Um in this particular case, they know this uh part of election law.

All right, then I'll I'll ask them for some copies.

All right, thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Is there a motion to receive and file?

Motion.

There's a motion to receive and file line item 5.1.

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Line item 5.2 is a settlement request and lawsuit of Donovan Courtney versus City of Detroit, Department of Public Works, case number 24-009 610 NO.

This is in the amount of 99,500.

Colleagues, is there a motion to approve or discuss?

Motion to approve.

There's a motion to send line item 5.2 to formal with a recommendation to approve.

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Uh and to the administration, um, we will be sending in a request relative to line item 5.2 um to the Department of Public Works.

So if you can please keep an eye out for that, it is relative to line item 5.2.

So noted, Madam Chair.

Thank you.

Line item 5.3 is a settlement request in lawsuit of Chineta Yarber versus City of Detroit, Department of Public Works, file number 1437.

This is in the amount of 118,535 and 61 cent.

Colleagues, is there a motion to approve or discuss?

Motion to approve.

There's a motion to send line item 5.3 to formal with a recommendation to approve.

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Line item 5.4.

Is a request for a legal representation and indemnification for John Grover data analysis for the fire department in lawsuit of Abraham Shah Day versus City of Detroit at all case number 24-208593-NI.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss?

Discuss.

Discussion.

Good morning again through the chair.

Mr.

Washington.

Through the chair, we do have second deputy commissioner Reginald Jenkins online.

I would have to reach out to construction and demo to see if they're able to have a representative join us.

Thank you, Ms.

Jackson.

If we can please promote him.

Madam Chair, he has been promoted to know it.

Thank you.

Good morning.

Can you hear me?

Can you hear me now?

Yes.

Okay.

Through the chair, sorry.

Um counsel.

I believe the question that we received was on John Grover, who's a data analyst.

Um, why he has a vehicle and why was it in out in Novae?

Um he's a he handles our quality.

I'm sorry, go on.

Before you proceed, those were the questions that I sent over.

I did receive a response.

I'm not sure if those are the questions that member Callaway has.

Yeah.

Member Callaway.

Yeah, thank you, ma'am chair.

Thank you, Mr.

Jenkins.

Those are um similar to my questions.

And since you were about to answer the questions that um chairwoman Johnson posed, I'd like to hear those responses.

Okay, so she's a data analyst and handles quality control, and he goes to all structure fires.

Um he goes to before reports are finalized.

That's his responsibility to make sure that the reports are accurate before they're finalized.

Um at the time of the accident, it was during the COVID, um, and he was allowed to take the vehicle home so he can report directly to vehicle buyer.

Um, but since um since you know COVID is over, uh, he um handle he has a pool card that he uses, so he does not he no longer takes the vehicle home.

Um, but he has a pool car.

Okay, thank you.

Um through the chair, Mr.

Jenkins.

Why is he in Novae with a Detroit car?

Oh is that where he lives?

Yes.

Okay.

So um hopefully things will change in January because I do not believe that if you're living in Nova in Troy and Birmingham, you should be driving a city car to your home.

You should have to, like they do with GSD, drive their car to a GSD property, park their personal car, and then get one of the GSD um vehicles and do their job, perform their duties.

So we have to change things in January, and I'll be moving forward with my request that I made over the spring, but I pulled it back, but I will be moving forward with that because I think we are allowing our cars to be used.

We can't afford this perk anymore.

You should drive your own car.

Drive your car, park it where you work, and then take the work car and perform the duties of your job.

After your duties at the end of your work shift, you return the city owned car to where your personal car is, which is your job site.

How are we paying insurance?

Are we paying for the person who lives in Novae with that address?

Or are we paying with I don't know if you can answer this?

It's probably a risk management question.

Are we paying for the insurance of the cars at a Detroit address?

Do you have a do you have the answer to that, Mr.

Jenkins?

Through the chair.

No, um I'm sorry, that that would be a risk management question.

I'm not sure how the insurance is handled.

Yeah.

And then when through the chair, yeah, that that's I'm gonna make sure I get these questions out.

But um, I'm always concerned, and especially are we getting points when our um um employees are in accidents?

Are they getting points?

Are we keeping track of that?

And I guess that too is a risk management question, but um, I don't believe that Mr.

Grover should be driving his our car home, uh is Detroit taxpayer dollars.

He doesn't even live in Detroit, he is a Novi resident, but we're allowing him to pay use a Detroit leased vehicle paid by me, taxpayer, for him to live in Nova and take the cars that we're leasing and ensuring to live in Novae.

It's a perk, and so we have to change how we are assigning these cars.

It's nothing against you, Mr.

Jenkins, but it's something I've been pondering for over a year now.

Um, but um, he should not be driving our vehicles to Novae for no reason.

He should be driving his own personal vehicle because now we're paying for his insurance, right?

We're paying for his insurance.

He should drive his work, his car to work, then take the company car and perform his company assigned duties, bring the car back to where his personal car is and go home or go about his day.

But to be using the city leased vehicle at our expense to live in Novae, and to he's using it for personal purposes, he's using it for purpose per personal purposes.

Do we keep through the chair?

Do we keep track of the mileage for these um vehicles?

Through the chair, yes, we do.

Um we do track the mileage, we do a monthly report, but um uh um he no longer again that was only during COVID, he no longer um carries the vehicle home.

Okay, well, this is just the pool car.

Okay, thank you, Mr.

Jenkins.

But this is just um what I'll be working on in through the chair to yourself.

It's nothing you know against you or anything, but this is rampant, this is pervasive in this city, um, where we have folks who don't live in the city taking these city cars home, um, one in Birmingham, she totaled it, and we're responsible for her insurance, but she's using it like a personal vehicle.

So hopefully we can come up with some new um restrictions, and I know my staff and I are working on it.

Um, so my colleagues, you all will be hearing about what we're working on really really soon to address these issues because we cannot move forward and incur these type of expenses, covet or not, covet or not.

Thank you, madam chair, and thank you, Mr.

Jenkins.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Colleagues, is there a motion on line item 5.4 member Callaway?

Can we um since the motion has not been made through through yourself to the law department, they're asking for legal representation and demnification?

How does that work for um this individual through the chair grammar?

It works the same as um any of our other matters.

Um they come before this body um seeking legal representation, and if they were found at fault in or if a settlement was to occur in litigation, the city would uh indemnify them through yourself the through the chair to Mr.

Anderson.

How do we know he was not on personal business?

How do we know he was on city business in Novi?

Through the chair, we would have to look at the facts uh through discovery in in this matter, and um I I believe they point to uh that in this case, but if there is a desire for a further investigation, we could set this matter for a closed session.

Um, madam chair, that would be my recommend my motion if we set it for a closed session.

To be determined, TBD, madam chair.

That is my motion.

So there's a motion to bring line item 5.4 back for a date to be determined.

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Attorney Anderson does want to add to the list.

All right, we are moving on to new business and line item 6.1.

Line item 6.1 is um submitting resolution authorization for Dickerson Wright PLLC submitting correspondence regarding appeal of interim suspension of Guyanga Company LLC and Brian McKinney.

Colleagues.

Is there a motion to discuss?

Discussion.

Um attorney Keller, um LPD, can you remind me of the date that we need to hear the appeal?

Uh yes, attorney Phil Keller, LPD to the chair.

The final day that the appeal can be heard is November 24th.

Okay.

Uh and so thank you for that.

So my team and I have the conversation initially we were going to request a one-week bring back so we could identify the date.

However, if we were to do that, this wouldn't go to formal until November 18th for a vote on the actual date.

So colleagues, I I'm wondering if you all are amenable to moving this to formal, recognizing that we need to identify the date for the appeal between today and Tuesday.

Um, and my team will be sending out an email to everyone with three date options for us to have actually hold the hearing before the 24th.

Attorney Keller.

Yeah, my my understanding is that the item should be referred to the president's office to schedule a committee of the whole so that's not the conversation I have with the president's office.

Uh so in my conversation, the request because it is an IOS item was for us to identify a date and time for the hearing, recognizing that it will be a committee of the whole so perhaps we should bring this back to the end of the agenda, and I'll ask for my team to connect with council president's office to see how we'd like to move forward.

We were proposing um November 14th, which is uh the day that we have the rules um public hearing.

So we were going to propose after the rules public hearing, but we can colleagues.

Is there a motion to bring line item 6.1 back to the end of the agenda?

Motion hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

All right, line item 6.2 is contract number 600 6158-A2, 100% risk management funding, amendment number two to provide an extension of time and an increase of funds for legal services for litigation involving the MGM Grand Casino tax assessment disputes.

Colleagues, is there a motion to discuss motion discussion?

Mr.

Washington.

Through the chair.

Attorney Anderson.

I don't have a question about the line item.

I have a question for the administration.

Terrific.

Um Mr.

Washington, it looks like the tax clearance expires on Tuesday.

Do we have an update?

I see Mr.

Johnson.

Uh Madam Chair, uh through the Chair, this Anthony Johnson LPD.

I am working with OCP on this issue.

Um the current tax, the current tax expiration date is on the 28th, which is next week's formal session.

However, um, through OCP has stated that the company has already applied for their updated clearance.

Um it's a seven to ten day process.

So it's in the hopes that they will receive their new expiration date by next formal session.

Um of course it's the will of the body we can bring this back in one week to allow that process to happen, or we can move it forward to formal uh with anticipation that they will be approved by the end.

But of course, it's the will of the body of how you would like to proceed.

All right, thank you.

Mr.

Washington, do is there anything you'd like to add?

Um nothing additional.

I concur.

Okay, thank you.

Colleagues, motion to bring it back when they have the proper tax clearances.

There's a motion to bring line item 6.2 back in one week.

Yes.

All right.

Any objection?

Madam Chair.

Member Calloway.

Pending their tax clearances.

So if if we don't have it in one week, we'll bring it back again.

Okay.

Um hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Chair.

Member Callaway.

I um thank you.

I'll ask this question.

I don't know how these um contracts even reach us when they haven't done they don't have proper tax clearances, and it gets to us, then we have to move it back, move it back.

They know that they're gonna be um getting this contract or this amendment.

Why does contracts from procurement delay delay the process by net by not notifying these contractors that the tax clearances are necessary, they're required, but it gets to us with the request to move it forward without the proper tax clearances.

It shouldn't even make it to us unless all the I's have been dotted and all the T's have been crossed when it comes out of contracts and procurement.

It shouldn't even make it to us, and then now we have to sit here and go through it, have this conversation just to bring it back in a week, giving them more time when they should have done it on the front end because they know it was about to expire.

So I just I don't understand contracts and procurements processes because you know we've been dealing with this since we've been on this council, so I'm glad we're bringing it back.

Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you.

And member Callaway, did you want to send anything to OCP?

A memo.

I don't think it would help.

Thank you, madam chair.

No.

Okay.

All right, thank you.

All right, line item 6.3 is a settlement request and lawsuit of advanced physician group pharmacy versus city of Detroit.

Case number two three-014-103-NF.

This is for the Department of Transportation in the amount of $15,000.

Is there a motion?

Motion to approve.

There's a motion to send line item 6.3 to formal with a recommendation to approve.

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Line item 6.4 is a settlement request in lawsuit of Carolyn Taylor versus City of Detroit.

Case number 24-005796-NO.

This is for the police department in the amount of $25,000.

Is there a motion?

Motion to discuss, madam chair.

Discussion, Member Callaway.

Um, can you can you through yourself to um Mr.

Malik Washington let us know if the sidewalk has been repaired?

I guess that would be a conversation that needs to be had with DPW.

Yeah, so I I had a question about it too.

Okay, member member Callaway has the floor.

Oh, okay.

Sorry.

Sorry, Mr.

Washington.

Which line item number are we referencing?

6.4.

Give me one moment.

I'm just double checking my emails.

I would have to double check on this one with the department.

I'm not positive.

Well, madam chair, um, I move to bring this back at the end of the agenda, line item 6.4.

Not less uh my colleague had questions.

No, I I I just want to understand.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I just want to understand why it's under DPD and not DPW.

Since it's regarding sidewalk through the chair, I would have to defer to the law department.

That may be an error.

Okay.

Then they should fix that.

Certainly, it should be fixed.

All right, there's a motion to bring line item 6.4 back to the end of the agenda.

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Moving on to line item 6.5.

6.5 is a settlement request and lawsuit of Daniel Katzman versus City of Detroit fire department in the amount of $55,000.

Is there a motion?

Motion to approve.

There's a motion to send line item 6.5 to formal with a recommendation to approve.

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Line item 6.6 is a settlement request and lawsuit of DeAndre Hayes versus City of Detroit.

Case number 24-008-118-NI in the amount of $15,000.

This is for the Department of Transportation.

And without objection, I'd like to combine line item 6.8.

Line item 6.8 is a settlement request of Joey Hunter versus City of Detroit.

This is for $10,000.

Is there a motion?

Motion to approve.

There's a motion to send line items 6.6 and 6.8 to formal with a recommendation to approve.

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Line item 6.7 is a settlement request and lawsuit of Delbert Relliford versus City of Detroit.

Case number 23-014122-NI.

This is for the fire department in the amount of $15,000.

Is there a motion?

Discussion, Madam Chair.

Discussion, Member Callaway.

Um can someone explain what happened here?

Have um know that we're resolved.

We are rescinding and then paying a different law firm.

Did the first law firm get paid?

Through the chairman.

Through the chair Graham Anderson Law Department.

It's my understanding this the there the first the first payment did not go through.

Um there there was uh a change of law firms, and that's the the reason for this resistion and the second uh settlement, but there there was there's not two checks going out here.

This is only one check that is going out.

Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you, Mr.

Anderson.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Is there a motion?

There's a motion to send line item 6.7 to formal with a recommendation to approve.

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Line item 6.9 is a settlement request in lawsuit of Arnisha Taylor versus City of Detroit.

Case number 23-01467-NI.

This is for the Department of Transportation in the amount of $15,000.

Is there a motion?

Motion to approve.

There's a motion to send line item 6.10 to formal with a recommendation to approve.

6.9, my apologies.

To formal with a recommendation to approve.

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Line item 6.10 is a settlement request in lawsuit of Northland Radiology versus City of Detroit.

Case number 24-008599.

This is for the Department of Transportation in the amount of $16,500.

There is a request for a two-week bring back.

Motion.

There's a motion to bring line item 6.10 back in two weeks.

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Line item 6.11 is a settlement request in lawsuit of Shant and Montgomery versus City of Detroit.

This is for the Detroit Police Department in the amount of $50,000.

There is also a request for a two-week bring back.

Motion.

There's a motion to bring line item 6.11 back in two weeks.

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Line item 6.12.

Submit a report relative to unresolved matters at the conclusion of the legislative term.

Is there a motion or discuss?

There's a motion to receive and file line item 6.12.

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Line item 6.13 is a case evaluation acceptance award in lawsuit in Lenise Frazier versus Zachary Caymans and the City of Detroit.

Case number 25-000448-NI.

This is for the fire department in the amount of $20,000.

Is there a motion?

There's a motion to send line item 6.13 to formal with a recommendation to approve.

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Line item 6.14 is submitting report relative to the OIG's quarterly report for quarter three 2025.

Is there a motion to receive and file?

Motion.

There's a motion to receive and file.

Line item 6.14.

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Line item 6.15.

Submitting report relative to exploring the establishment of a domestic violence task force.

Is there a motion to receive and file?

Motion chair.

There's a motion to receive and file line item 6.15.

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Line item 6.16 is a resolution canceling city council's formal session on November 4th.

Is there a motion to approve, noting that November 4th is election day?

Um hello, Mr.

Whittaker.

Yes, madam chair.

The resolution does several things.

But council is electing to have a formal session on Friday November 14th, which is uh at 10 o'clock, which is uh noteworthy because that that is a date that you would normally not be meeting, but this resolution lets the public know that you'll be meeting on an unusual day, uh a Friday uh November 14th at 10 o'clock.

So um I just wanted to point it out.

Thank you, Mr.

Whitaker, and my team was sending me a note, but we don't need to cancel November 11th because it is a formal holiday.

Right.

Um okay.

All right.

Well, thank you for sharing that.

Colleagues, is there a motion to send line item 6.16 to formal motion with a recommendation to approve.

Uh hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Line item 6.17.

Councilmember Letitia Johnson submit a memorandum relative to questions about impacts of proposed body cam ordinance.

There is a request for a two-week bring back.

Is there a motion?

Um who's requ through the chair.

Madam Chair.

Member Callaway.

Who is um asking for a two-week bring back?

And why I've been working on this.

We've been working on this for a very long time.

We're almost across the finish line.

Member Callaway, these are just questions that I asked about the ordinance.

Okay.

Um and so the who do we send the um questions to?

The law department is requesting, I believe, a two-week bring back.

Through the chair, I believe you also made the request to um uh Mr.

Donnie Johnson as well.

Maybe the two-week came from him.

I'd like to know through the chair who who made the two-week bring back request.

Through the chair, I don't believe making the two-week bring back.

I don't think you did.

But I I think one week is realistic in this case, especially with having the public hearing on Monday.

I think the goal is to have it ready by Monday, is my understanding.

And just to add, so we did um receive that noting that the um public hearing is on Monday.

Um I don't necessarily know that our questions will hinder anything.

However, uh, Mr.

Washington, did you have a response to member Callaway's question?

No, through the chair.

Um, I'm not sure if Mr.

Johnson did request that, but if he wants to uh request one additional week, that's fine.

I mean, I will work with him to try to try to turn around as soon as possible.

Thank you.

Noting that still after the public hearing.

Yeah.

And and member Callaway, we can we can share the questions with your team so that they can be asked during the public hearing, and perhaps the um, I believe it was the OCFO's office who requested the bring back.

Through this through yourself to um to attorney Anderson.

Um the answers to member Johnson's question does not impact the um public um hearing schedule for this Monday.

Through the chair it through the chair it shouldn't.

Um I know though the questions are regarding if there will be um additional uh liability due to litigation, which uh the the short answer is we we do not anticipate that the other aspect to their questions regard a fiscal impact study.

I of course can't speak for the OCFO's office on that one, but I I'm hopefully confident that that is something they can have a quick turnaround that would be ready to be presented on Monday at the public hearing as well.

Okay, so through the chair to you, Mr.

Um Anderson.

Um there's no um I don't um agree with a two-week bring back when the public hearing is already scheduled for Monday, October the 27th.

So if there are any questions, hopefully they can be answered before Monday, because today is just Wednesday.

I saw the questions, and they're not like complex questions, so they could probably be answered um by the end of the day.

I've seen the questions, and when you've spoken to my staff about um answers to those questions.

So I mean, I don't know if we can't address the questions now for my colleague who posed the questions because they weren't complicated or complex at all.

Well, through through the chair, I can only speak to the law department's aspect.

I can't speak to the OCFO's aspect.

Okay.

All right, so the through the chair, I I don't see that we need to bring it back in two weeks if the public hearing is already scheduled for Monday, the 27th.

I saw the again the questions, and so hopefully um through um yourself um member um Johnson.

Can we get um Donnie Johnson on?

Uh that's a Mr.

Washington.

Is Ms.

Mr.

Johnson available through the chair, I would have to double check.

And I know we're at the end of the agenda.

Well, we do have two other items that we brought back to the end of the agenda so we can come back to this one.

Okay, and and through the chairs, item 6.4, because I'm gonna reach out to Mr.

Johnson now.

Um, we will be requesting on one week bring back for that item.

Okay, thank you.

There's a request to bring line item.

Is there a request a motion to bring line item 6.17 back to the new end of the agenda motion hearing no objections that action shall be taken?

Um all right, we are going to go back to line item six point one, which is the it's regarding the appeal of interim suspension of Guyanga.

Is there a motion to discuss motion discussion?

I assume that's why Mr.

Whitaker is here.

Hello.

Yes, ma'am.

Um chair, uh I have spoken to the council president's office in this matter.

Uh they would like the matter sent to the president's office for the scheduling of a special session where you can have the hearing and vote in the same session.

So they're asking that that this matter be referred back to the council president's office for the scheduling of a special session uh consistent with your with your collective schedules all right.

Thank you, Mr.

Whitaker.

Motion can I just say that that's not what my team just as we ran out and uh had a conversation.

Okay, all right.

So we are going to ask that our hearts and minds are clear and everybody's on the same page.

It would be nice for us to be there.

Uh colleagues, is there a motion?

I did one.

There's a motion to send line items to refer line item 6.1 to council president's office for the scheduling of a special session.

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Line item 6.4 is the settlement request in lawsuit of Carolyn Taylor versus City of Detroit.

There's a request for a one-week bring back.

Is there a motion?

Motion um and also madam chair.

Discussion discussion to uh make sure they fix that DPW, not DPD, the language.

All right.

Uh there is a motion to bring line item 6.4 back in one week.

As amended we can amend it is really just a scrivener's error, um, but they can they can amend it when it's on the agenda next week when it comes back.

Okay.

Through the chair, I'll bring it to their attention.

Thank you.

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

And now back to line item 6 point 17.

Mr.

Washington.

Yes, through the chair.

Um Donnie Johnson has joined us.

Thank you.

Ms.

Jackson, do you see Mr.

Johnson?

Okay, here he is.

Now we see good morning, uh Madam Chair.

Uh, I am Donnie Johnson and I am the acting deputy CFO and budget director for the city.

Um if the question could be restated for me, please.

Member Callaway.

Uh well I'm I'm going on your question, um, Madam Chair.

You posed the question so regarding the impact study um regarding the release of body cam ordinance.

Um I'm sorry, uh of body cam.

So that would be your question.

So Mr.

Johnson, the question is um if we can get the answer to the question prior to the public hearing on Monday, if not at the public hearing on Monday.

But certainly because there was a request for a two-week bring back, we're just trying to see if you can respond to the questions prior to the public hearing.

Yes, madam chair.

So um my team, we can have the fiscal impact statement ready by Friday of this week and submitted.

Okay, great.

So then we'll just request a one-week bring back and anticipate uh your response by Friday.

Yes, ma'am.

All right, thank you.

Colleagues, is there a motion to bring line item 6.17 back in one week?

Motion.

There's a motion to bring line item 6.17 back in one week.

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Madam Chair, pending the answer to your question by Friday.

We are going to we we're requesting that the response is in before the public hearing.

So we I mean we can't do anything with the uh memo without a response, um, so we'd have to bring it back anyhow.

So we're just asking for the OCFO's office to respond before the public hearing.

So we anticipate that'll happen, and if we don't have it by Friday, then we'll have a conversation with them.

Okay, and Madam Chair, since you posed a question, can if he answers you only and does not include um member waters and myself, can you make sure we have answers?

Because I'm curious as to um the questions to your the answers to your questions.

So, Mr.

Johnson, will you please be sure you send it to all council members?

Yes, madam chair.

Uh I will make sure that all council members receive a copy of the fiscal impact statement.

Thank you so much.

Thank you, ma'am.

All right, colleagues.

Is there a motion to suspend member reports?

Motion hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

Is there a motion to adjourn?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

We shall stand adjourned.