Good morning, Madam Clerk.

Will you please call the roll?

Good morning, Mr.

Chair.

Council President Pro Tim James Tate.

Here.

Councilmember for Durhaw the third.

Present.

Councilmember Letitia Johnson.

Mr.

Chair, you have a quorum present.

Thank you.

We have a quorum, which means we're now in session.

Member Durrha, Member Vice Chair, is there a motion to approve the minutes?

So move, Mr.

Chair.

Seeing no objections that action shall be taken.

Want to let everyone know we have a chock full agenda again today, as I've mentioned, for the remainder of the year.

This is what it's going to look like.

And we've got to address the issues, dispose of them, deliberate the items that are provided to us.

And today we have five public hearings, two discussions, and uh three of the five public hearings we've already seen before, and they uh deal with a project that is before us, the DCFC stadium.

So just want to give you a heads up of what we're working with.

So I'm going to have to truncate uh public comment in addition to the general public comment that we have uh to try to get through uh this committee in uh some semblance of form and fashion.

So uh would like if there's anyone from the public who would like to provide general public comment, please raise your hand now.

General public comment, please raise your hand now.

Uh also for the folks who are online going once, going twice.

How many hands do I see in the committee of the whole, please again?

One, two, three, three hands of committee of the whole going once, going twice, going three times.

Collections of general public comments have now concluded.

Uh good morning, Miss Jackie.

Oh, sorry about that.

How many uh callers do we have?

We have 11 callers online.

Okay, so it takes us 13, 14, 14.

So we're gonna give everyone for general public comment.

Uh wanna make sure we have a little more time for our public hearings for those who are here for those.

So I know it's gonna sound bad, but we're gonna give 30 seconds for general public comment.

I know, I know my list, my list.

Gotta get through it.

Um, and and I always I always stress to folks, please don't wait for this to be the only time for you to reach out to council.

Uh you can always call us.

Uh my number is 313 224 1027.

You can always email us as well.

It gives us an opportunity for all of us.

I know I do.

We have community meetings as well where we have in public, so there's always other opportunities for us to communicate through than just public comments.

I just want to always put that out there in the atmosphere as well.

All right.

So I'm taking my my lashes, but I've got to get through this meeting.

Uh so we're gonna ask our three uh individuals from the committee of the whole, please come forward.

Um again, apologies in advance.

And again, if you are calling online though, for if you're calling online for any of the public hearings, uh if you can please lower your hand, you will absolutely have an opportunity to speak during the public hearing discussions that will allow us to again give more time to folks in uh during the public hearings.

All right, we're gonna start with my start from my left to my right.

Um I'm sorry, my right to my left.

Yes.

We're gonna start with Ms.

Kia Mathis.

Floor is yours, ma'am.

Hello, can I be heard?

Yes.

Hi, Kia Mathis with the housing justice team with Detroit People's Platform.

Uh, we're calling about the Detroit City Football Club development.

Hold on, one second.

Ms.

Mathis, I'm sorry, your time is not began yet.

I'm sorry.

That is our apologies.

Having a technical challenge.

And I have to give everyone the same amount of time now to tell it to folks who are not familiar with our processes.

All right.

Think we're good now?

All right.

Hello, Kia Mathis with Detroit People's Platform.

I'm here to speak about the Detroit City Football Club development project.

We believe that the NAC's failure to respond to the critical need um of the displacement impacts uh is gonna make we decided at Detroit People's Platform to make a direct ask to you to you know for the developer to offer a multi-year investment into the affordable housing trust fund and to commit to design 15 percent of all the residential units to be accessible and all the other units to be adaptable.

We believe the NAC did not even um thank you.

Thank you.

As mentioned, we will have three additional hearings coming up for DCFC today.

Good morning, Ms.

Campbell.

Good morning, Councilmember Pro Tem and Councilmember Durha Hall.

I'm Linda Campbell with Detroit People's Platform and Citywide CBA coalition.

I'm here to ask, make a direct ask on behalf of frontline providers, the Arc Association, and Manna Mills who serve the most vulnerable individuals who reside in the impact area of the planned soccer stadium development.

As an organizer, we recognize the role of these frontline providers in meeting the needs of those who depend on volunteer-driven organizations to provide meals, clothing, and other emergency services.

We believe a direct ask of the developer to make a direct contribution is not too much to ask.

Thank you so much, Ms.

Campbell.

Good morning.

My name is Darren McCleskey.

And it just needs to be slowed down so people can understand it.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right, we'll go to our callers who are online, Ms.

Jackie.

Mr.

Chair, our first caller is not that Karen.

All right, caller.

The floor is yours.

You have 30 seconds regarding general public comment.

Hello.

Hello.

Yes, good morning.

Thank you for your punctuality and 30 seconds that you've allowed this morning to speak.

Um I'm always gonna advocate for the um Detroit City of Detroit retirees.

We had a meeting last night, and we got a letter giving us an opportunity to pay off what uh save interest, 6.7%.

775%, which is outrageous.

Almost as outrageous as the 30 seconds we're being allowed.

Thanks.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is send all massive zoning proposals back so meaningful community engagement can be done.

All right, caller, the floor is yours regarding general public comment.

Good morning, may I be heard?

Yes.

Mr.

Tay, you were really not serving with integrity when you jam pack agenda, so we only get 30 seconds.

It's so resident disrespectful.

It's just astounding.

I have proof that this is a major conspiracy with these zoning ordinances.

Because an attorney for a developer wrote, indeed, uh many of these requirements are set to be loosened to encourage future development projects like a banished.

It's set to be loose, and that's a thank you.

And as I mentioned again to folks, these agendas are provided to us, these items.

We have to dispose of them.

Uh whether we agree with them or not, we have to dispose of them.

So these are items that have been provided to the committee.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is William M.

Davis.

Mr.

William M.

Davis, the floor is yours regarding general public comment.

Good morning.

Can I be heard?

Yes, sir.

Okay, I'd like to invite everybody out to the retirement task force meeting tomorrow from 11 to 1230.

That should give you an opportunity to hear from the administration to try to explain this horrible letter they sent about this excessive amount they want to continue want us to pay to discontinue the new declared act.

I also invite people just to tune in if you can't come via Zoom.

Have a good day.

Thank you so much.

Good morning, Member Johnson.

Madam Clerk, if you can note that we've been joined by Member Johnson.

Thank you so much.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Detroit Disability Power.

All right, Detroit Disability Power.

The floor is yours regarding general public comment.

Good morning.

This is Casey Peller, District 4 with Detroit Disability Power.

I sent all of this to you in email already, but um first for the DCFC CBA.

We'd love to see 15% of the housing units be type A accessible and all the rest of them adaptable or type B, as well as housing trust fund contributions over the life of the abatement.

Um second, I also sent this early this morning, but for the adaptive reuse um draft ordinance.

Would love to see enshrining of accessibility laws in there.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Tyson Gersh.

I think the floor is yours regarding general public comment.

Tyson Gersh.

Are you there?

What how about now?

Uh we can hear you now.

Yes, sir.

Okay, thank you.

I'm sorry about that.

Uh okay.

Uh the zoning text amendment.

Um I don't know why we have to do these in such massive packages.

I mean, this one's 141 pages.

There's just I'm very suspicious of the telecommunications um language in here.

Uh, and based on the Havana thing that was filed yesterday.

I I don't trust it.

And yeah, there's just not a meaningful opportunity to weigh in on this in 30 seconds.

I'm sorry about that about that about that one.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Cunningham.

Brother Cunningham, the floor is yours.

General public comment.

Brother Cunnahan, are you there?

It is indicated.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Luella Pizzuti.

Good morning.

Uh I'm calling to enthusiastically support the sale of 22501 Fenkel to Anthony at Brightmore Family Grill.

He's been a fantastic asset to the community and wants to extend his reach, and I support that.

Not to mention, it would be impossible to be a worse steward of that land than the city of Detroit has been for well over a decade.

So please, please, please let him continue to make our uh community better.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh next caller, please.

Our next caller is Tahira Ahmed.

All right, caller, the floor is yours regarding general public comment.

Caller, are you there?

Caller, are you there?

All right, let's put the caller at the end of the queue.

And before we go to the next caller, I'd like to call the actually there was a discussion at 1015, so don't have to call that one.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is call in user one.

Call in user one.

The floor is yours.

You have 30 seconds, general public comment.

Caller, are you there?

Can you hear me now?

Yes, ma'am.

I'm very disappointed, James Tate, that you never allow public comment to be two minutes, even a minute and 35 seconds.

You got to do better.

I'm very disappointed.

I understand you have other meetings, but we don't know all of the topics because it's not clearly broadcasted.

I still want to know why the fields on Limwood and West Brand haven't been cut because you thank you, Ms.

Shane.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Miko A.

Williams.

Miko A.

Williams, the floor is yours.

General Public Comment.

Miko A.

Williams, are you there?

That's hi.

Good morning.

Do you hear me?

Yes.

Well, I just want to say that evil may have won the baton the other night, but their grip of power won't last long.

Corruption, uh, gluttony, seeing all sorts of things will not last beyond two years.

I this our grassroots, our left activists are concerned citizens.

Right.

Don't hold Miko.

Uh, if you wanted to call back in, your audio is breaking up.

Your Wi-Fi is uh having some challenges.

Uh so we didn't get all of your comments.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is owner papa.

Caller, the floor is yours.

We have 30 seconds regarding general public comment.

Caller, are you there?

All right, let's put the caller at the end of the queue and go to the next caller, please.

Our next caller is Bill Cheek.

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

You have 30 seconds, general public comment.

Can you hear me?

Yes.

Bill Cheek from North Corktown.

Uh, I just wanted to speak about the uh DCFC deal and push back against the people's platform ask for affordable housing trust fund contribution dollars.

We have the oldest housing stock in the city, and the most affordable home is the one that already exists.

Affordable housing trust fund contributions don't help our multi-generational families that live in big houses that have all kinds of home repair needs.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Marguerite Scarlet Maddox.

Margaret Scarlet Mannox, the floor is yours.

General Public Comment.

Good morning.

Morning.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay.

Thank you.

Um with the disability powers.

Um we are negative thinking about the preachers.

Meaning, meaning that we uh do not know me.

Well, I first and for me, I am still just to try to get my uh help me.

All right.

Hopefully, hopefully, and we'll be moving to another place.

Uh and shava issues.

To make people leaving the rocking pair on the shot at the cane up.

They need to keep it back and make sure they are clean up behind them stairs.

I'm done.

Thank you.

Before we go forward, like to call the 10-20 public hearing and we says it to the call of the chair.

We'll now go back to general public comment.

Mr.

Chair, we are back to to hear Ahmed.

Caller, the floor is yours regarding public general public comment.

Can you hear me?

Yes, ma'am.

Okay, I was speaking.

Uh I don't know.

I haven't went.

Good morning.

Um, I want to make a statement about this um the photo opt that Mr.

Duggan did with gleaners.

We know we need food, but where are you been, Mr.

Uh Mayor?

Where have you been?

Now you uh gleaners is doing something for black people in Detroit.

Here you come showing your face so you can be governor.

No, you've been absent and missing an abstraction the whole time you've been mayor.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our last caller is Mika Williams.

All right, Mikael Williams, the floor is yours.

General public comment.

Yes, can you hear me now?

We can hear you better.

Yes, sir.

I'm sorry.

Yes, there have been problems with the Zoom.

I've been put off two times.

And uh, I just want to say, listen, evil may have won the baton the other night, but Detroit's concerned Detroiters, activist Detroiters, leftist Detroiters, and legacy detraiters.

Don't give up and do not uh despair.

Listen, we still need to stand strong like a tree.

They may have won, but we won stronger by standing for integrity, and we will still be here holding you all accountable in those seats of power.

Thank you for taking my comment.

Thank you.

Take us to the end of our general public comment.

Yes.

All right, thank you so much.

We shall now return back to the 1020 public hearing.

I'm sorry, before we go there.

Uh I'd like to now have the 1015 discussion.

Like to have the 1015 discussion so we can cue up the individuals that are here for the 1015 discussion.

This is uh regarding HRD and community benefits agreement, home repair eligibility, and I believe uh member Johnson.

And I believe Member Johnson, this was one of the discussions that you have requested the committee to raise due to the agreement with, I believe, Stillantis.

And the floor is yours, ma'am.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

We're gonna get them all on.

Oh, what am I doing on the screen like this?

Take me off.

Good morning, everyone.

Uh Mr.

Chair, I'm not sure if you wanted them to introduce themselves before we get started, or would you like for me to just go into the discussion?

Sure, we can have them introduce themselves.

For all those who are participating, please introduce yourselves for the record.

Don't be shy.

Morning, everyone, Edwina King Planning and Development Department.

Morning, everybody, Rico Razo, Chief of Home Repair and Neighborhood Services, HRD.

Jose.

Yep.

Hello, uh, José Lemus, uh jobs and economy team mayor's office.

All right.

If there's anyone else that's going to join us, we're gonna allow them to do so uh as we proceed.

Uh and I'll turn the floor over again to you, Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, so thank you for having the discussion.

Um, I really just wanted to have a public discussion related to um what has been brought to me by a number of residents as it relates to the different home repair grant programs that are administered by the city, um, whether it be federal funds, city funds, or um funds that are obtained via perhaps a community benefits agreement where the home repair grant is administered by the city, but certainly dollars that are brought into the city from an external entity.

Um so if someone can just talk about currently the way we have things set up as it relates to how much any individual household uh can benefit from and the time period.

Whoever can answer, the floor is yours.

Through the chair, thank you, Councilmember Johnson.

Um as as we run home repair programs all across the city of Detroit.

We currently have our annual community development block rant or CDBG conventional home repair dollars that we we get on an annual basis.

And those dollars cover our critical home repair program.

They cover our lead hazard remediation program.

And we also have other lead hazard grants that we've applied for in one over the years that are multi-year grant funded uh programs.

In addition to that, um, as you're you're aware, we we receive other allocations of dollars that sometimes come from uh situations or disasters that happen in the city.

So most recently we received an allocation of disaster recovery dollars to address the 2021 federally declared flood disaster, which we are currently running a private sewer repair program for.

Uh, there was another allocation of disaster recovery dollars in 2023.

Uh, my my division in HRD is not part of those dollars.

Those dollars, I believe will be used more for larger infrastructure improvements that will definitely uh impact way more houses than I could through um through just the residential private sewer repair program.

And then we have some uh other when I say other home repair programs that are not federally funded, but come out of these uh community benefit agreements that our our department bridging neighborhoods takes on because they have flexibility um in running those programs that uh do not have any uh federal implication.

So bridging neighborhoods, as you're aware of, um, was founded based on the agreement with the Gordy Howe International Bridge Project, started with full home renovations through a home swap program.

Uh there was environmental mitigation involved with that deal.

So a number of houses took advantage of environmental mitigation related to the I-75 freeway.

And then we've uh also taken on phase two and phase three of the Stellantis Community Benefit Agreement Home Repair Program.

Um, and we also uh ran the Michigan Central Station Community Benefit Agreement home repair program.

And we are currently doing some pilot programs for a home swap type program along the Joe Lewis Greenway renovating houses and assisting households who may have quote unquote walkaway homes where there's just too much home repair to do, where we're renovating houses, uh offering home swap to move into a fully renovated house and then taking on their old house and fully renovating it and continuing to do that home swap in the community currently around the the um uh Warren Gateway over in the Midwest Tyrman neighborhood.

Um so that's a general overview on the various home repair related programs that we run.

In terms of your question about eligibility, we do have a policy for our programs where uh if you have applied for uh home repair grant funding through the city of Detroit and received grant funding for home repairs over $10,000, you're ineligible to apply for another uh city of Detroit grant funded home repair program for 10 years.

Uh doesn't mean that residents can't apply through other nonprofit agencies uh or uh DTE EEA programs, they don't have those uh restrictions.

And in a lot of cases, we do find households end up being serviced by multiple entities, including the City of Detroit and other nonprofit partners.

We do uh work with our citywide home repair task force, which is led by Heather Zygmatovich, and we do have uh inner org working groups where referrals are made when dollars are available to assist households that either we can assist or may have been assisted previously through the city of Detroit.

So we we try our best to um uh serve everybody that that calls our department.

I I probably receive about 50 phone calls a week from residents, and if we can assist and have capacity in our programs, uh we we get them through the application process to do that.

Um we are looking to launch our next critical home repair program uh in February, next application period will be February 2026.

So uh I think I think I touched on everything you may have asked.

Hopefully, I answered your question, council member.

Um, but let me know if you need me to expand on any of that.

No, thank you for the um thorough response.

Um so I want to just clarify you indicated a number of different grant programs, and you mentioned the eligibility requirements.

I believe you said um that the city of Detroit provide.

So can you just clarify that any of the grant programs that you listed, even if they are external resources that are not federal funds or city funds, that the eligibility requirements still apply.

So that's correct.

I would say the only program that does not have that stipulation, and it's it's related to the specific floodstorm of 2021, where households do have a tie back in the form of a FEMA claim and they were affected uh by that flood and can prove that uh that program specifically is open to anyone, regardless if they had a previous home repair grant, but all of our other programs, we have instituted the $10,000 10-year policy so that we can uh get into a lot more houses across the city.

I think what we've heard feedback from across uh different neighborhoods throughout the city is that everybody wants a chance to receive a home repair grant.

And in some specific cases, you know, we've gotten into uh conversations with residents where they feel certain residents who apply for everything have received multiple grants from the city.

In a lot of cases, that is just not uh accurate.

You know, they they know how to apply for uh grant funding and have received it through through different entities.

Um that's I think I answered your question there, but yeah, that's basically how we're setting up all of our home repair programs.

Okay, and so we we know that there are some people that are more connected than others.

Uh and I know we do our very best to try to disseminate information to our residents when it is available to them so that it does not appear that you know there are select individuals that always benefit.

But I do want to just confirm so when we provide dollars to different entities to administer home repair grant programs.

Are they subjected to the same eligibility requirements?

I know we've provided resources to Way Metro to facilitate different programs.

Would an individual still be required to wait until they've received wait until that 10-year period, let me put it that way.

Yeah, thank you for the question through the chair.

Um not if a nonprofit entity is running the program.

Uh I think we discussed this earlier.

If we want to get past that 10-year, $10,000 policy, I think the best route to go for any dollars that may be eligible is to provide those directly to the nonprofit agencies directly.

Um yeah, I think in and just elaborating a little bit on what I mentioned earlier.

I think within community benefit agreements, we've also seen that there's been specific language to target a specific geography within the boundary of the community benefit agreement area.

And when that happens, um those that the 10-year $10,000 rule does not apply because now we're talking about a selected group of residents that may be the most impacted by uh the development or expansion and in that entire block or a couple blocks would be eligible for the program, regardless if they received um uh prior grant through the city of Detroit.

Example, uh Benito Street related to the FCA's Stilantis expansion, phase one of that home repair program focused solely on Benito Street, the first street behind the expansion there.

And then when we did phase two and phase three, that was opened up to the entire boundary area, which includes 5,000 households.

So, based on the agreement, we have to notify all 5,000 households that we have home repair grant funding in an application that's launching.

Um, even if it's for second phase, we had enough dollars to do 60 home repairs.

Third phase, we have enough dollars to do 130.

So in total, um, we've awarded 190 home repair grants, uh, although we did mail and notify all 5,000 households that were in the boundary area.

Okay, thank you.

And I'm gonna wrap this up soon because I know we have a lot on the agenda.

Um, so that is really the point that I was trying to get to.

So you indicated that phase two and phase three took on a different approach.

Um, so uh I'm really interested in understanding how we got to amending what we did within phase two and three.

Granted, there are only so many houses on Benito that could have benefited, but I'm not sure what that process was internally.

Um, and I did just want to elevate this because when we have home repair dollars that are provided by the city for different types of home repair, and then there is a development project that goes into a community, especially when they are industrial projects that then provide or that then subject that community to additional pollutions, um, and we have home repair dollars that come as a result of a community benefits agreement, or if the city says, okay, we recognize this development project is happening here, um, I just want to be sure that we are keeping our residents first and foremost in mind as it relates to addressing the additional pollution that they're subjected to and helping to protect them and provide that envelope for them in their home that protects them from external, the external environment as much as possible.

And so subjecting them to the $10,000 for 10 years then says that if you have a development project that comes online in your community that you can't benefit when you may need some additional resources to create that envelope within your home.

Uh, and so I just want us to be able to separate the two so that people can benefit, especially when we have additional what we call now cumulative impacts on any particular neighborhood, because it should be our responsibility just to make sure that we're protecting them as much as possible.

Uh, granted, we go through the process to make sure the screening and buffering and things of that nature are put in place to protect them from the environmental impact.

I just believe that when we have home repair dollars as a part of a CBA in particular, because they are dollars that are coming from an external entity that they should be utilized to provide uh a greater protection for those households.

Thank you, Councilmember Johnson.

And uh through the through the chair, uh definitely agree with you.

I think I think where the distinction needs to be made when we talk about home repair grant dollars is whether or not we're talking about an environmental mitigation program or just conventional home repair.

I think when we look at it through the lens of conventional home repair, um, you know, we're thinking of those critical repairs that households need between 15 and 20,000 that may be a roof replacement, that may be HVAC, that may be uh plumbing, it may be porch repair, it may be accessibility repairs.

I think that's what we look at when we launch a more broad uh home repair program and and have our uh rules and regulations related to that.

Um we do have examples, and I you know, I I think we we discussed the one related to the Gordy Howard International Bridge Project, where there were uh more dollars available to run a specific environmental mitigation program.

And we focused on a specific area that was highly impacted uh by the incoming Gordy High International Bridge.

So again, the coordinates for that were uh Spring Wells, the Clark Park, I-75 Service Drive, 300 feet north.

And we had roughly about uh 300 households that were eligible for the program.

That was clearly defined from the get-go, and there were not any regulations around receiving previous grants on that specific uh benefit to the community.

Uh, we ended up doing environmental mitigation for 174 houses out of that roughly 300 household uh boundary.

Um, and each one of those houses received a carbon copy scope of work.

Now not every single house uh qualified for insulation because they may have had a brick exterior, but those households that were wood framed got insulation, everybody received noise reducing windows and then upgraded HVAC uh in their house.

So um when we talk about specific programs related to environmental mitigation, I think that's just the distinction that needs to be made if you're looking to run uh a home repair program related to you know a specific develop development.

But I I do think we're talking about two different things here between conventional home repair and and environmental mitigation repairs.

Um so we we are potentially um, but I think a lot of the home repair uh that has been done, particularly in the Stillantis area.

While I know some people may have received some plumbing repairs and things of that nature, um, all in all, the intent, at least when we allocated the 2.7 million, was really addressing the environmental impact on the households that are um nearest the uh facility.

But I will keep that in mind and moving forward, I would like to see CBA grant dollars administered by an external entity and not even coming into the city, and then they can be managed differently from the way we manage our city funds.

Um but certainly do appreciate the time.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair, for um allowing the discussion to happen.

Um we'll we'll continue to have conversations offline.

Thank you all so much.

Thank you.

Very, very great discussion.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right, before we move forward, like to now call the 1020 public hearing uh back to order.

And the 1020 public hearing is a request to amend chapter 50 of the 2019 Detroit City Code zoning.

And without going through all of the details here before we have our presenters, we're gonna allow our presenters to introduce themselves and then walk us through what's being requested.

They left you, Edwina.

Well, I'm also part of this as well.

Uh good morning again.

Um, honorable body, Edwina King Planning and Development Department.

Good morning.

Alexa Bush, Director of Planning and Development.

Good morning.

So we have two gentlemen joining us in the committee of the whole.

Good day, Deputy Director.

I'm sorry, I missed you on the screen.

That's okay.

Lisa D'Kiera, Deputy Director, Historic Designation Advisory Board.

Okay.

All right.

For folks who are not familiar with this, was come before us uh on council before, but those who are joining us today may not have seen it.

So folks, just a walkthrough on what is before us this morning.

Yes, Mr.

Chair.

Um Ms.

King, if you want to open this up or uh Absolutely.

On behalf of PDD, CPC, and HDAB, it is our absolute pleasure to present to you the adaptive for use ordinance before you today.

For more than two years, we have engaged various stakeholders, most importantly, the residents, district by district, to discuss these proposed changes.

Changes that will revitalize our communities while maintaining the architectural integrity and character of our neighborhoods and our buildings.

And again, what makes Detroit Detroit?

The results and recommendations you were here today.

Um, and again, we ask uh your body for your support for this particular ordinance.

So maybe it's for purpose in that neighborhood school now abandoned that has educated your family for generations into a housing, be it affordable housing or senior housing that allows our residents to age in place, or maybe it's that fire station that has all the cool candy growing up, um, and again, now a banding and we're redoing that or revitalizing that into a cool cafe uh for community use.

This ordinance more importantly brings life into our neighborhoods while supporting true investment and most importantly, creating a place where Detroit are proud to live, workplay, and worship.

It is now at this time that I'll pass it to Kamani or my colleagues Kamani Jeffrey and Greg Moots, who will guide us through today's presentation.

Again, thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

So uh again, uh my colleague uh Mr.

Moots and I will be presenting.

Uh this is an effort that goes back even uh prior to the pandemic.

As we've heard from the community, um and over again, as many people uh people get frustrated, you know, seeing uh buildings be demolished.

Uh people want to see these buildings retained um from schools to churches to buildings that are uh within the fabric of our neighborhoods, they want to see them uh retained and kept as much as possible.

And so that's what this effort is about, trying to keep these buildings which are the fabric of our neighborhoods.

Um, and so uh we're trying to do that with this ordinance.

Um this is an effort to allow people to have more opportunity to keep these buildings and give new life uh opportunity to these institutional buildings within the neighborhoods.

And so uh I just want to note this is sort of some housekeeping that the city planning commission after holding a public hearing on this effort that's been going on since before prior to the pandemic.

Um there were working groups that were started even before the pandemic.

Um the pandemic sort of slowed it down, but we were able to revive it with our colleagues from the planning and development department, also historic designation advisory board, um, as well as the historic district commission staff.

Um, we were able to revive those efforts um after the pandemic and after holding a public hearing at the city planning commission.

Uh they voted on June 26 of 2025 to recommend approval of the ordinance that's before you after hearing from the public.

Um generally there was uh large support.

There were, I believe, two citizens that did um oppose the ordinance, but largely there were many people that supported.

I believe we had uh 11 letters of support.

I think we received two letters of opposition, but largely uh most people supported this ordinance.

Ms.

Jeffrey, before you go forward, I'd like to call the 1020 public hearing and recesses to the call of the chair.

I'd like to now call to order the 1045 public hearing and recess it to the call of the chair.

We will now regain rejoin the 1020 public hearing.

The floor is yours, sir.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um and then also before uh I just want to put this out there on the floor that if there is support at the end of this hearing, uh I do want to note that uh there was one use that was mistakenly omitted from this ordinance.

So once you hear uh all that is being proposed at the end of this hearing, if there is support for this ordinance, we do want to note that uh we would be asking that the townhouse use be added to the ordinance in addition to the other uses that are that are entailed in what is within the ordinance that townhouses be a permissible use, um, that we will ask that a motion uh be taken up to add townhouses as a permissible use at the conclusion of this hearing.

And so you'll see what that actually means once we go through uh once we go through what this ordinance entails, and you can then consider that at the appropriate time uh if this honorable body does want to take that up.

Mr.

Mutz.

Uh thank you.

I will uh begin the initial presentation again.

Good morning.

Um, the goal of this ordinance is really to permit the reuse of public civic institutional buildings.

We'll look at the definition of what those are in a minute.

Um again, this is a great example of the um of the latter of a former firehouse turned into what I've seen is now an award-winning um restaurant, actually.

So a great example of what can be done with former buildings that you know used to be a government building, for instance, in this case.

Next slide.

This is the full list of prior uses that would be eligible for um adaptive reuse.

So if a building was used for any one of these things somewhere in its history, doesn't have to even have been its immediate prior use, it would be eligible for reuse.

I won't read all of this to you, but some of the big ones are certainly fire stations like we just saw, museums, religious institutions.

That's a certainly a big one that we've seen a significant number of reuses for schools.

We've seen a good number of those.

We'll see a couple of examples of those in the presentation.

Umeral homes were actually added to the list as a result of um meetings with city council members as a former reuse that could be a former building that could be um considered for reuse.

And then also the utility buildings.

The city has several of the former PLD buildings in our inventory that there has been substantial in interest in reusing, and unfortunately, some of those are zoned for only single family homes, probably not the best use for those buildings.

So we want to make it easier to reuse those where they're in the neighborhood.

Next slide.

Again, the why, I won't read this, but again, initially, certainly one of the big ones is this support to new housing efforts.

A lot of the buildings that we've seen, certainly the schools have been reused completely or in part at least for residential uses.

We want to support additional housing in the city of Detroit.

Um, much of this has been affordable under as they've received tax incentives.

Um, you know, at least 20% of the units have been affordable.

It expedites investment instead of going through the four to six month process for rezoning, which oftentimes has been necessary for to reuse these buildings.

Um, this ordinance would expedite it.

You only have to go through a special land use hearing at buildings and safety, so it reduces time, reduces cost to reuse these buildings that we want saved.

Why do we want to make it harder to keep buildings that we like?

Um it and it provides amenities for the neighborhood for the residents in the area.

Again, that's when we look at the list of eligible uses of reuses, I should say.

Um we cherry picked uses from the 320 or whatever in the ordinance, uses that would fit in to the neighborhoods.

We want to you know support the neighborhood, support investment in the neighborhood.

You know, we hear people say that all the investment is downtown.

Many of the buildings we're looking at are not downtown, so that's reporting reuse around the city.

Next slide.

Mr.

Moose, before you go forward, like to recess the 1045 public hearing to the call of the chair.

Like to call to order the 1050 public hearing and recess it to the call of the chair.

We are now back at the 1020 public hearing.

The floor remains yours, sir.

Thank you, sir.

Uh next slide.

You know, here's some great examples of some of the buildings that we have seen reused so far.

Um, a former school that was reused, a former police station that was reused.

Next slide.

Uh a former another former church, a former library.

I do want to note um not all of these would have required a rezoning.

A couple of these examples, uh, these two here, I believe, um, were both commercially zoned, so they would not have benefited from this ordinance from the permitting the use, but our ordinance would also uh make it easier to reuse them by reducing um the number of loading spaces or reducing the number of parking spaces for these uses.

So, you know, all of these buildings would have benefited one way or another.

Another great example.

Um, this was just before city council, I believe last year for a rezoning, the St.

Angus Church.

They had to go through the rezoning process because they had a mixture of uses beyond just the residential.

There is a school building adaptive reuse ordinance that's been on the books for a long time, but as the name implies, it's only for schools and it's only for residential uses pretty much.

So, you know, this building, because they had cultural center and office, needed a rezoning.

Our ordinance would reduce the time, they wouldn't have to go through commission and council.

Next slide.

Um, Transfiguration School, a great project.

It was just recently opened.

Um, this former school redeveloped into 19 low-income apartments.

Um, again, this was permitted under the school building adaptive reuse.

Our ordinance would have made it easier by somewhat reducing um the parking requirements and loading requirements to reuse the school building.

Next slide.

Here's again those former PLD stations.

A couple of these, one on Lawton and one on Custer.

You know, these are various sizes, various scales scattered throughout the neighborhood.

A couple of these are listed for sale or have recently been purchased, I believe.

So again, we want to make it easier to use these instead of see them demolished for someone to build apartments or something on that site.

We'd like to keep these buildings.

They've been there a long time.

They're great looking buildings, have great character that would permit these to be reused instead of have to be bulldozer again, go through six months' process to reuse them.

Next slide.

So if for some reason the church decides to reuse this building or the church were to close, the former retail could never be used for retail again without going for the rezoning.

So we wanted to take that into account.

Next slide.

Two more great examples that we're gonna look at.

This one was recently done, the former Higginsbotham school.

Again, the school is being used for residential, which you can use today, but the area outlined in yellow is new construction.

Um this ordinance would permit new residential construction on the grounds of buildings that meet those former reuses.

Again, some of these churches, the schools have a fair amount of um open land, so we want to allow someone to build on that land to make the make it easier, make it more financially feasible to reuse these buildings.

And today they had to go through a rezoning because they were reduced, they were building new multifamily on the site of the school.

Next slide.

And the other one, Lewis College of Business, another rezoning, which was through City Council, I believe, in the last year, they had to rezone from our one to our three to again permit that new residential development that's shown in that area outlined in yellow.

We could have saved them the time of the rezoning.

The next slide, and now I'll turn it over to my colleague, uh Mr.

Jeffrey to go through the list of uses and other provisions of the ordinance.

Thank you.

Well, before it does that, I'd like to call the 1045 public excuse the 1020 public hearing to the call of the chair.

I'd like to now call to order the 1055 public hearing and recess it to the call of the chair.

We are now back at the 1020 public hearing.

The floor is yours, sir.

That's a perfect set segue.

And so uh, Mr.

Chair, this would allow for 50 conditional uses approximately.

So we like to highlight this because uh as my colleague Mr.

Moots is um allowing you to know, there would this ordinance would no longer require a uh rezoning, but there still would be some review.

So there still would be a special land use hearing.

So what's the difference?

No longer would you have this six-month, sometimes a year, uh, sometimes longer than a year process with of a rezoning because of the many different facets of that process.

Uh, but now you would simply have to go through a special land use hearing, which is many times a much uh uh expedited process, um, which is held at the buildings and safety uh department.

And so there's still some review where the community can weigh in.

Um people within proximity of that site are invited, um, and so those uses are conditional.

Um, these are this is not the full list of uses, but this gives you an idea of the types of uses that are included.

We have the full list at the end of the uh presentation, but this gives you an idea of the types of uses that would be permissible conditionally uh within those those uh those building types.

And so, how do we come to this list?

We try to use these guiding principles uh to help us come to these uses that are permissible.

Um, we wanted uses that would add to the vibrancy of the neighborhood.

Uh we wanted uses that would fulfill the day-to-day needs of that particular community.

So we're not looking for uses that are going to be regional draws.

We wanted uses that can add to that particular neighborhood.

Um, uses that could actually fulfill employment needs of that particular neighborhood, and also we didn't want uses that are going to add to you know traffic burdens for that neighborhood.

And then also we wanted to make sure that the community could get a say, so that's why we made it where they are conditional.

They're not by right uses, but they're conditional.

So they have that public hearing involved.

We thought that that would be important so that people could still get a say, even though it doesn't require a rezoning.

Uh so because of that, that's how those are the guiding principles that helped us to come to the uses that we that you see before you.

And then also we wanted to incentivize uh the uses that you saw just now by reducing the parking requirements because these buildings that exist, you know, the schools, the churches, they are what they are.

Many times they're landlocked, so you can't really, you don't have a lot of uh wiggle room in many of these cases.

So sometimes you you can't build new parking.

You can't um you don't have a lot of flexibility with the sites.

So we wanted to uh incentivize these buildings being reused by reducing some of the parking requirements, reducing some of the loading requirements that are in the in the zoning ordinance to help these buildings be re reused because these are many times the things that are barriers for developers taking them on, and so to get some of the benefit of getting a developer to take them on, we're reducing and incentivizing by reducing some of those requirements uh to get uh the end goal that we're trying to get to.

And so we're reducing those requirements by 50 percent.

Um, but we also would note that through the special land use hearing this came up in the public hearing actually, and this is the benefit of holding public hearings at the City Planning Commission.

This question came up.

If it comes up during a special land use hearing, that um it's found that although there's an incentive that the parking or the loading can be reduced by 50 percent, but it's found that it's actually needed that you need more than that 50 percent reduction.

Can the community request that they that a developer actually provide more than that 50% reduction, even though they have the opportunity to do 50 percent of 50 percent reduction, and we talked to the law department, and we found that even though they have the ability to provide that 50% reduction, if it's found in the special land use hearing that the community wants different uh they still have the ability to mandate that they provide more.

So the special land use hearing has the power to mandate that more be provided.

So the community's voice can be heard and it can have an impact through that hearing process.

So that's important.

And then also we wanted to uh make to make sure that the impact or the the goal of this ordinance is being achieved.

75% of the building has to be retained.

So a developer can't demo majority of the building and call it preservation.

At least 75% of the building has to be retained in order for it to be considered preservation, and then lastly, um tactical preservation is a part of this ordinance, and that's essentially the uh building reuse strategy focused on the partial or incremental reuse of an existing building.

And um it's a building and safety process to ensure that the properties can be activated in a safe and efficient environmentally sound, aesthetically responsive manner incrementally, so it allows a building to incrementally space by space be reused one space at a time, and so that a building uh can be reused uh space by space or uh area by area, little by little.

Um, and a good example of that is Michigan Central Train Station.

They couldn't bring that entire building online all at once, but one space at a time, incrementally they brought the building online uh little by little, and now we see it back to the grandeur that it once was.

And so tactical preservation was how they were able to achieve that little by little until now it's 100% back online.

And so uh that's a part of this ordinance, and we wanted to codify that so that as staffs change, as uh the administration is changing, that process doesn't go away, but it continues on in perpetuity so that the city can continue doing that, and that we incentivize it by allowing those same incentives of parking and loading reductions and those types of things uh so that developers can take advantage of that as well.

So, what's the bottom line as I close out?

The bottom line is that as we see these institutional buildings, they're the anchors of the neighborhoods in the city of Detroit.

As you see, this example of Alexander McComb Elementary in 2009, as they go, we see the neighborhoods also crumble as well.

So the whole goal of this ordinance is to save these anchors in the neighborhoods so that we can save the neighborhood as well.

And the goal is if we can reutilize these buildings, we can also save the neighborhoods that surround them.

And this is the public gauge engagement that we've done.

We talked to council members, we've talked to the architects and developers and done focus groups, we've talked to DPSCD and their management, we've talked to, we've had DOM meetings and talked to the communities, uh, we've talked to real estate professionals, we've talked to communities, um, we've talked to private individuals.

We've talked to communities, we've talked to private individuals.

We've received letters of support from the public.

We did receive two letters of opposition.

But essentially, this is just a summary of what this ordinance entails.

It's an effort to save the institutional buildings in the city of Detroit, such as schools, libraries, fire and police stations, post offices, courthouses, religious buildings, utility buildings, and just to allow for different uses that normally wouldn't be allowed in the R1 and R2 districts to allow them to be reutilized for those using tactical preservation, reducing the parking and loading requirements, and then also allowing multi-family on some of those school sites that have those large play fields to allow for housing on those and to support new housing efforts on those types of sites.

Again, having a process where the public can weigh in.

So these are conditional.

So the public can weigh in on any of these proposals.

And so that is a requirement.

And these are some of the hearings, some of the meetings that we held on this, not to be uh this is not limited to this, but these are some of the meetings that we held.

There were additional meetings that we had, but these are uh some of the meetings that we have with the Dods.

We also sent out a mailing to over 6,000 people.

Uh we send out a physical mailing to over 1,400 community block clubs and organizations.

We establish a an adaptive reuse website, still up to this day, so people can go to uh visit that.

Um I can give the URL so you can still visit that today to get more information on this effort.

And that is here, uh Detroit MI.gov backslash adaptive reuse.

With that being said, give the floor back to you, Mr.

Chair.

All right, thank you so much, and thank you all who participated in this effort.

Uh, my first question is you know, you we have this before us, and one of the first things people say is why is it being rushed?

Why is it being rushed?

You indicated that started this process pre-pandemic.

Um, so why do you think I mean you showed a list of meetings?

And I know we have some folks who no matter what, uh if they're not engaged or if they're not hearing what they want to hear, they say you know, you're rushing, or um, they just pull out what all stops to try to stop the process.

Um been here long enough to know that takes place.

But I don't I didn't I don't know if that's the necessarily the case in all situations.

Why do you think that may be the case this time around?

We're hearing some people were saying, look, it's you're going too fast, you know.

Um do you believe that we as a city uh have the ability to do more public engagement on it?

We there is some some missed opportunities along the way.

I mean, because again, we were talking about starting back pre-pandemic, or do you think maybe the pandemic because we were so far apart from each other that may have played a role into it?

Just trying to get from you all who actually host these meetings.

Why do we think that that may still be the case with some folks?

At least in this particular situation.

Um there could be some conflation between, I know there's multiple efforts going on.

You know, there were um four ordinances on the table all at once, and I think there could be some conflation between some of those ordinances that were all laid on the table at once.

Some of those have been in process for multiple years.

Um, some have been in process for a shorter amount of time.

I think some of that may be conflation between some of those ordinances.

And so I understand that it can be it can be confusing between the multiple efforts going on all at once.

And I think that could be leading to some of the discrepancies between what effort is what got you.

I think that may be leading to some of the confusion.

Mr.

Moose.

And if I may add to that, Mr.

Chair, I believe also, you know, with the point of rushing it, as Mr.

Jeffrey said, the planning commission hearing was back in June.

So, you know, the the hearing was five months ago.

It just took this much five and a half now, it just took this much time to actually get it to city council for a hearing.

You know and then the the we started the public meetings certainly probably a year at least before it was at City Planning Commission.

So the the rushing it kind of we're at the very end and we're trying to you know but obviously it's been in the works for years and we had had multiple meetings on it.

So it has been in the works for a fair for a fair amount of time and we've worked hard to you know to have the meetings with the different commun you know at the different Don meetings and let people know via um email invitations and physical invitations and things like that that this is something that is happening and inviting them to give any input that they have on it we've listened to it and taking it into account wherever we can do you have any recommendations from your professional standpoint on how to short the distance between uh when the item comes from CPC when you all uh make your decision to when it comes to council because again if it you'll had your meeting uh and you finalize it in June here it is now November there is a little bit of of lag in in between there uh for folks and to your point when you now have a whole host of other zoning uh requests amendment requests that are laid on top of it yeah uh some folks have zoning uh amendment fatigue yeah understandable so what it what in your opinion what what do you believe uh may be able to close loop is it I mean I again just we're on the receiving end of it all yeah um some some things we we don't have much control over um I I truly encourage folks I and let me just say this I'm not saying it that you all are the the holdup I'm saying the process and when I say the process that includes uh executive branch legislative branch uh and everybody in between so not picking winners or losers just trying to figure out what is a recommendation to to to be able to shrink the process uh for you know from the time it comes from the time the CPC makes their uh determination to the time it actually comes to council and if I'm the if if we're the problem just say it yeah um if we're not say that too yeah I think uh you know we definitely can um benefit from you know the review processes in between can um can uh be dancing man you dance can be can I can assist yes all right no thank you thank you for that question um because I can understand from a um council standpoint as well as a public standpoint you know why is it taking so long to get before this honorable body um to what Kimani was saying there are certain things outside of our control um first and foremost you know we are and I definitely want to uplift um Dan Arking from the law department who worked really really hard um if he was in the private sector he'd be a rich man uh from a billables hours standpoint in order to make sure that we get this through um and also understanding because this is a little different being that this is the end of a term versus the end of a council year so everyone's trying to get their last minute uh I don't want to say last minute but their priorities and the things that they were working on before your honorable body before this council um session concludes the other part of it too is that's unique to um to zoning ordinances is a noticing requirement so typically with other types of um public hearings you get five days you know so on and so forth with zoning you need the 15 day noticing uh requirement um in addition to that is also um you know availability because we don't want to you know you know I know more than anybody about Bog and Don your committee um and so working with your team to make sure that there's um space um to actually have the public hearing but also allowing your body the time to do its due diligence so it's kind of like the perfect storm um we're here we're riding through the storm um but we certainly wanted to get this through um before but especially understanding um the excitement um and the importance of it for those in the community um especially because they want to see action in their neighborhoods and revitalization you know of certain buildings um in their community we wanted to get this before you um before this council term concludes so I hope that answers your question yeah I mean I thank you for that I mean it was kind of what I was suspecting uh just wanted to hear it out loud so it's a matter of uh moving a couple of pieces in a couple of different places it feels like not just one location so uh last question for me for the public uh special land use uh hearing what's the cost associated with uh sl u hearing uh my understanding is it's approximately eleven hundred between eleven to twelve hundred uh dollars okay and rezoning what would that what's the cost typically look like uh rezoning is about um it's about the same I think it's eleven is depends on parcel rezonings depend on parcel size yeah there's a basic fee and then each additional parcel cost

What's the cost associated with uh SLU hearing?

Um my understanding is it's approximately 1100 between 11 to 1200 uh dollars.

Okay.

And rezoning, what would that what's the cost typically look like?

Uh rezoning is about uh it's about the same.

I think it's 11.

Depends on parcel rezoning is depend on parcel size.

So there's a basic fee and then each additional parcel costs extra, a special land use hearing, I believe is twelve hundred.

And then it goes up by the acre today.

And then the rezoning also tax on additional time.

That's that's the big the time, just not so much.

And sometimes it could be from six months minimum, four to six months minimum, but it also based on review time, it could go up sometimes even more than a year.

Um if it if the reviews go longer, so that's where it can get more challenging.

Okay.

And then the last I did say last question.

This is the last one for me.

Uh, in terms of the 75% preservation of the structure, who is the entity that ensures that 75% of the building is retained, and do we know what processes use?

I want to say it's deep BC.

Yeah, that would be the building's assessment.

Do we know what process they use to determine 75% versus 72%, 70%?

That go ahead.

Let me just keep the chair.

I mean, it should just be straight math.

I mean, you're looking at here's the building footprint before, you know, when you originally, you know, that was originally as built.

Are you reducing the building footprint by more than 75%?

So it should just be look at the area of one, look at the area of the other.

Is it you know, is it 75, 72, 82, whatever it is, but it should just be straight math looking at what is preserved, you know, what is being preserved or what isn't.

You know, the school building adaptive abuse ordinance, which has been on the books for many years, does say you know, for a building, say like if it was the um the powerhouse, like if it was an outbuilding or something like that, that may not count towards a preservation, but the main building that we're talking about, at least 75% of that must be preserved so that you actually are preserving the building instead of demolishing most of it and then pretending you're preserving.

Thank you.

Colleagues, any additional questions, comments, concerns regarding this particular item.

Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, just to the point that a district four resident raised and provided some information to us.

I'm not sure if you all received it.

It was about accessibility.

Can you just speak to where that would play into the whole process?

So when it comes, I'm not sure that I I did receive the the question.

You you may not have through you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, you may not have.

I think we received it late yesterday evening.

Um, but she did call in during public comment, just um specifically essentially just requiring that accessibility as a part of um these development projects, and I'm not necessarily certain that it can be added into the this particular ordinance, but just wondering if you all have any um suggestions on how that gets folded into these properties through the chair.

I don't believe when it comes to um the ADU the uh ADA requirements, I don't believe it would be a mandated unless they're making a change to a specific part of that building because it it currently exists.

Um it wouldn't it wouldn't be mandated.

Somebody could do it voluntarily, but it wouldn't be mandated unless they're uh updating that specific part of that building from my understanding.

But we could get a specific answer to that, but that's that's my current understanding.

Okay.

Um, and so you're essentially saying they would be grandfathered in because of the structure unless they do some significant uh changes to the building itself.

I'll be sure to send you to share with you all the email that was sent to us.

Um, and um if you wouldn't mind helping us to get a response to her.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

And just for those who want to communicate to us, I always say again, please don't wait until the day of the hearing, please don't wait till the day before the hearing because it is a lot of frantic stuff that's happening, and so we don't always have an opportunity to review uh the items that come before us in that particular time frame with the the sensitivity that I'm sure those folks who are sending the items warn us to.

Uh, any additional questions, colleagues?

Seeing none, we shall now go to public comment.

If there's anyone from the public who'd like to speak on the 1020 public hearing, that's line item six.

Please raise your hand now.

If there's anyone from the public who would like to speak on the 1020 public hearing, line item six, please raise your hand now.

Going once, going twice, three times.

Collection of public comments have now concluded.

Jackie, how many callers do we have?

Mr.

Chair, we have nine callers online.

Okay.

We're gonna give everyone a minute for public comment for this particular item.

We adjust the clock.

Our first let me our first caller is Greg Mangan.

Rick Mangan, the floor is yours.

You have one minute regarding line item six.

Good afternoon, City Council members.

My name is Greg Mangan with the Southwest Detroit Business Association.

We are um here to talk in support of the adaptive institutional building reuse um proposal.

Um we think this partial and incremental reuse of existing buildings will permit you residential, particularly new affordable housing options throughout the city of Detroit.

Um we have seen um other opportunities for historic preservation of existing structures for new uses that weren't previously uh used there for commercial and retail type options.

Um it would uh eliminate that need for rezoning, um, allow new businesses and uh vibrancy within our neighborhoods in Southwest Detroit and throughout the rest of Detroit.

We've seen great reuses like Ladder Four Wine Bar in Southwest Detroit, other schools like Higginbotham, Transformiguration, St.

Matthews, and uh well as PLD stations um that are also located in Southwest Detroit.

So we give our full throated support for this.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Rebecca Savage.

Hi, can you hear me?

Yes.

Thank you.

So I'm Rebecca Savage.

I'm a Detroit resident in District 2, and I'm a historic preservation professional.

Um this zoning text amendment is critical for adaptive reuse of Detroit's historic buildings.

It's a significant positive change to the zoning ordinance and um Detroit's historic institutional buildings will truly benefit from this um revision.

So I just want to emphasize how important this is, and thank you for your support of it.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is owner Papa.

Caller, the floor is yours regarding line item six.

Uh good afternoon, introduce Mabby Hurry.

Yes, Carolyn Hughes.

Yes.

Um it appears that um there are other reasons why they want these this ordinance to go through.

Um I have ordinance fatigue.

Um everything that they mentioned proves the point that they don't need this ordinance to do what they're doing.

They're already showing you all kinds of examples of how reuse has been done, and um nothing prohibits them from continuing to do that.

But I think that any time you have a neighborhood, the neighbors should be able to weigh in on anything that people are building in your neighborhood.

And I think this ordinance will alleviate the public's um opinion about what's happening in their own neighborhoods.

I think this needs to be uh thought out a little bit better.

I don't think it's ready to be voted on, and I think that we should um put this off until the public has more knowledge about what this ordinance will actually be doing.

Thank you.

Our next caller is Tyson Gersh.

Gersh, the floor is yours regarding line item six.

Thanks.

Can you hear me?

Yes.

Thanks.

So of the four that are currently before council of the four text amendment packages.

This is probably the best one.

Um Mr.

Jeffries has always been super cool uh to our neighborhood.

And if he's like full heartedly endorsing it, uh I'd be inclined to do the same.

Um I I do appreciate and is if this is true, then like I'm all on board, and I I think our neighborhood would be on board as long as the that whatever is happening in this, if passed, it does not, it retains the public's right to public hearings.

If that's happening, have at it.

Um my opinion, I guess I should check with people before I say that.

But um, you know, like we've got two of the buildings that were in those images that we'd love to see developed.

Um, but just maintain the public's right to a hearing.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is send all massive proposals back so meaningful community engagement can be done.

Caller, the floor is yours regarding line item six.

Can you hear me?

Yes.

Okay, first of all, under charter section six-205.

You are not allowed to limit public comment to only one minute for people who live in areas likely to be impacted by this, which sounds like it's pretty much all over the city.

And so the uh uh uh the the proposed ordinance, and I object if you cut me off at one minute.

I absolutely object.

The vast majority of people do not know about this.

It's not even attached to today's agenda.

And the the this whole thing about we got to ram it through before the end of the year because people want their stuff done.

Well, news flash, it's mostly the same city council with uh Mary Shaffield, who's been around here.

And I hope and pray to God that none of you that you will actually have some respect for the residents as a jam pack this and do all this.

And if you cut me off right now, Mr.

Tate, you are violating Detroit City Charter.

Thank you so much.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Toya.

Toya, the floor is yours.

Good morning, everyone.

I'm calling in about the zoning, the ordinance.

And something I don't know about.

Um, I want to learn the ordinance, and especially when it comes to butsel, taking a piece of the cement and trying to revert it into a park.

I mean, uh uh apartment building that we utilize each and every day.

So the zoning R1, R2, I don't know nothing about.

I would like to be more educated on this uh project, and it's been in place since 2018, and now we just not hearing about it 2025.

So I would like to be more educated on a zoning issues that's going on in our backyard as residents, stakeholders, and you know, the developers coming in here and getting what they want, and we're still in a in a hole that we don't know what's going on, and what's knocking at our front door.

So please consider that more of a hold on this zoning.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is not that Karen.

Caller, the floor is yours regarding line item six.

Yes, hello.

Hello.

Yes.

Um I'm thinking about uh in particular with POD substations.

So uh most of those um most of those buildings have uh asbestos and lead and whatever.

So I'm just trying to figure how we're gonna work around that with a person purchases um goes on to purchase one of those locations.

Will there be brown um brownfield credits available for these for the purchaser to remediate that uh in that building?

I know that's not part of the uh ordinance, but it is going to be a per a issue for the person who purchases that building.

Those are excellent bomb shelters, by the way.

I'd like to know about the brown pill.

I may be interested in purchasing one of those for a remote as a home.

Thanks.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Dan Kinke.

Caller, the floor is yours.

You have one minute regarding line item six.

Can you hear me okay?

Yes.

Dynamite.

Uh yes, I wanted to share a few a few notes here, particularly maybe some additional details that would help to inform and motivate others to support this effort.

Uh the finding ways to reasonably reuse uh existing buildings can have a major environmental and health impact for our city.

Um for instance, uh, doing this, we can mitigate a major uh major portion of all the demolition debris, which right now equals about 90% of all debris generation overall, including where we have type one and type two construction and institutional buildings here in Detroit.

An example that would reduce the 145 million tons of construction and demolition debris nationally uh each year.

It would also um begin to uh reduce the 40 percent of consumed raw materials for new construction uh and reduce the 9.8 million tons of CO2 generated for production of of uh finished concrete and so forth in the US.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is caller ending 415.

Caller ending in 415.

The floor is yours regarding line item six unmuted can you hear me?

Yes.

Okay.

The purpose of adaptive reuse is to remove the legal requirement to prove hardship at a BGA hearing before a seven member board and replace it with a B seed SLU hearing with no board and a decision made at a later date in a back room by unknown officials.

I live next door to a building that was purchased three years ago to open a women's domestic violence shelter illegally in our one zoning, but not allowed the attempted to appeal to the BZA.

It was denied and then appealed this decision to circuit court and failed.

The owners that again attempted to open illegally and were required to close.

Now after a circuit court case resulting in permanent closure until they can obtain a zoning change or use change, the owners changed the description to a non-denominational Christian Community Comprehensive Wellness Center and appear to be attempting to reopen after receiving a certificate of compliance as a convent.

Check out their website, JTAC.com.

They're the same services to the same women.

The city at this point is failing to enforce the court decision to not explain it.

Thank you.

Not sure where that uh location is.

Feel free to give us a call so we can track that down 313 224-1027.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Michael.

Michael, floor is yours.

You have one minute regarding line item six.

Anyway, yes.

Okay, great, thank you.

Uh, this is Michael Quarris.

I'm an architect.

I've been working in the city for 30 years on projects like this, and uh I support this uh wholeheartedly.

It's uh uh long time coming, definitely not rushed like we've been talking about it for six years.

Um I I think it would make a big difference on a lot of buildings that just sit there on a process that takes way too long.

It would allow people that don't have means to do some of these projects to actually do that because the process is so onerous and so long uh cost money.

Uh I really support it.

I think it will make a big difference.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our last caller is Marguerite Scarlet Maddox.

Margaret Scarlet Maddox.

The floor is yours regarding line item six.

Yes, thank you.

What about six?

That is not on the list and yet endless is my own six but I would like to see the plane from the inside because I spend most of my lights at that building.

And I am glad that it is coming back to the table because they had the question.

So I am glad that it's bet of stagnant.

But I would love to see the plan that they had the better and sat the old school and the church.

And we about the the rezoning issue.

The ADA regulation.

And do it singing does thank you.

Thank you.

I think that takes us to the end of our public commenters for the day.

Give uh the presenters an opportunity to respond to the questions, comments, and concerns that have been provided.

Whoever would like to begin, the floor is yours.

Anybody thank you, Mr.

Chair.

So we can go down the list of questions that we caught or respond to the items that were brought up.

I believe there was something brought up related to asbestos and lead.

Um in response to the asbestos and lead questions or um comments, there are incentives for you know brownfield redevelopments and things of that nature.

Um so that those uh resources and incentives are provided on the website.

Um so if somebody wanted to redevelop a site, uh, we have provided um the links and the websites where they can find those resources and apply uh for any any um any site or any building that they might want to look into redeveloping and how they would uh go about reaching out to the DGC um to look into you know redeveloping and um applying for those those resources.

Um there was something brought up related to the public being able to weigh in in the process and not being um put out of the process by not you know because this would no longer require a rezoning.

Again, we want to be very uh intentional about letting people know that there still is an avenue that people could weigh in to this process, and that is through the special land use hearing.

So there still would be a public hearing, just wouldn't not be through the rezoning process, but it would be through the special land use hearing process through the buildings and safety um uh buildings and safety department, and the public is invited.

Uh a physical notice is sent to people within 300 feet of the site, and they are invited to the public hearing, and they can weigh in and conditions can be added to a proposal uh to say that you have to do X, Y, and Z in order to establish a use, or the use can even be denied if the public is adamantly opposed to the proposal.

So that would be that is a part of the zone this this uh this process and that is in the language of the ordinance if folks want to read through that ordinance.

Let me ask you a question on that other piggyback for those who may live outside of that 300 foot uh circonference or whatever around it, uh if they were to uh request to participate in the SLU, could they?

Yes, yes, sir.

It's a public hearing.

Anyone from anywhere can dial in can participate in that hearing and also and they're not discounted because they're not within 300 feet.

That's just a notification.

That's correct.

Yeah, the ordinance says everyone statutorily, all property owners and taxpayers within taxpayers and residents within 300 feet have to receive notice.

I believe community groups are also noticed.

I believe Billings and Safety works with Department of Neighborhoods to get the word out about those hearings.

So even if you don't get something in the mail, hopefully you've heard about it from your community group.

But if you live in Muskegon, you can comment on it if you'd like, certainly.

You may proceed.

Um I believe there was a gentleman who spoke to a specific issue about um, I think he spoke to uh uh a problem uh residents or somebody's trying to establish uh use uh we've spoken to that gentleman.

Um the use that he originally spoke to us about, we've had at least we've had multiple conversations with him.

The use that we originally spoke to him about, uh the the problem property that he's talking about, it's in D4.

We've had conversations with him.

Um but the use that we originally spoke to him about is not a use that we're we're considering it's not in this ordinance.

We even had a conversation with the law department.

We we you know we made it clear with them, and they were you know they were okay.

So as far as we know, the law department had already, you know, there was a case about that specific uh entity.

I think he was just talking more in general.

So don't seem to reach out to us.

Okay.

So and then in terms of I think um Miss Marguerite Maddox, I think that was the last item that needed uh to weigh in.

Uh as far as we as far as we know, um the ADA compliance is not does not apply because these buildings already exist.

It would not apply unless somebody is rehabbing the building and makes changes to a certain portion of the building.

When they make a change to a particular portion of the building, they have to bring it up to 88 to code, which means that that portion of the building would now have to conform to the ADA building standards.

So if they change a portion of the building, then that portion of the building now has to comply to ADA code.

Um somebody can voluntarily make a you know change the building to comply to ADA standards, but um the buildings currently exist, so unless they're changing it, it is what it is.

So that would be the answer to that question.

Okay.

Colleagues, any additional questions, comments, concerns regarding this item.

See none.

Is there a motion?

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I'll move that we send our uh line.

Right.

I know you asked about the housing piece.

Sorry to interrupt.

Uh yeah, if if we could, Mr.

Chair, make a motion to add town homes to the list use.

Um we would we would please request that member vice chair.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I move to uh amend uh this current uh ordinance uh and add townhouse townhouses uh to the usage.

Thank you.

There's a motion to amend the ordinance before us to include other amendment to include uh townhouses as a use.

Any objections?

Seeing none, then action shall be taken.

Member Vice Chair.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I move to send our six or our 10, excuse me, 20 uh a.m.

public hearing line item six to formal with a recommendation to approve as amended.

There's a motion to send line item six to 1020 public hearing the formal with a recommendation to approve as amended.

See no objections that action shall be taken.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Thank you all.

This now closes out the 1020 public hearing.

Would now like to call uh forward any any financial uh any jurisdic any entity that has uh financial uh concerns regarding uh taxing jurisdiction, excuse me, have uh uh concerns regarding uh uh the DCFC requests that are before us, specifically the Brownfield.

There are any taxing jurisdictions that have any concern that would like to bring them forward regarding the DCFC Brownfield request.

Seeing none, we shall close out that discussion.

Now I'd like to call back to order the 1040 public hearing with the parties who are participating.

Please introduce yourselves for the record.

And this is regarding the DCFC Brownfield tax the brownfield request for approval.

Good morning, Brian Vosberg, uh senior director of Brownfield Redevelopment at the Detroit Economic Corporation and the Detroit Brownfield Redevelopment Authority.

Yeah, I believe we'll also be joined by um Brittany Huskew from the chat team as well as um my colleague David Howell, as well as Sean Mann from the development team.

Um the plan was to present on the the project as a whole since that uh applies to the Brownfield plan.

Um and then uh also have that presentation uh then be the discussion for or be the presentation then for the abatements which are on the agenda next.

Okay.

Whoever would like to proceed first, proceed uh good morning, uh Mr.

Chair.

May I share my screen?

You may thank you, sir.

So Mr.

Chair, as Brian indicated, I'll just give a brief overview of the project.

We will uh certainly be uh very brief, but yet uh substantive in detail.

Um the uh overall project obviously is the the stadium, the soccer stadium, and a mixed use development uh of the in the mixed use development there are uh 421 uh uh space parking deck, 8,500 square feet of retail and 76 uh residential units.

Uh total estimated uh investment is 198 million dollars, uh, which will produce uh an estimated 142 uh direct jobs and over a thousand construction jobs.

It's estimated that the net fiscal benefit to the city will be 14.3 million dollars, and the project will generate nearly uh 25 million dollars in annual new spending of the requested incentives today are the brownfield TIFF, which will be on the uh entire site, and the PA255 uh certificate uh for the stadium, and then the PA210 for the mixed-use building only, uh excluding uh the residential.

Uh here's a site map.

You can see that the uh uh brownfield TIFF boundaries are uh outlined in in yellow.

Uh the teal uh represents the uh district for the PA 255, and then the dark green represents uh the uh boundary or the district, if you will, uh for the PA210.

And with that, I'd like to turn it over to uh my colleague uh Brian Bosper to walk you through the uh Brownfield request.

All right.

Thank you, David.

Uh so uh as uh you see on the slide, um this is an amended and restated brownfield plan for the 20th and Michigan Avenue uh Brownfield plan.

Um so if you can go to the next slide, David.

Um this is again for the Brownfield TIFF uh tax increment financing request.

Uh you can go to the next slide.

And uh so previously uh in May of this year, uh I was before your honorable body for the Brownfield plan, uh the original Brownfield plan for this project, which uh was for the former uh Southwest Hospital site, uh as you see here.

Uh this allowed the developer to begin abatement uh and uh remediation as well as uh interior demolition of the building uh to help get uh this blighted uh building um torn down and start that process.

Uh at the time they had indicated uh that they would be coming back for an amended brownfield plan for the full project, uh, which was the stadium and other developments, and so that's what um I'll be discussing uh in a little bit uh later in this presentation.

Uh next slide, please, David.

Uh and so it does include the same five uh parcels as before, uh as you see here.

Uh that was outlined uh before.

So these five parcels make up the brownfield plan.

Uh all of them qualify as facilities or contaminated.

Uh there'll also be uh a qualification for uh the residential portion of the property too at the north end of the development.

So next slide, David.

Um so I first wanted to talk about um what is the tax incentive uh for this and how does it work?

Um so the tax incentive uh for this is tax increment financing or TIFF.

Um and it what the purpose of tax of Brownfield TIF for tax increment financing is to redevelop uh reimburse developers for uh costs that they have to incur uh to redevelop a site um that are not costs that they were responsible for, uh costs that uh they would otherwise not have to pay if they were redeveloping uh a site, say out in the edge of the suburbs.

Uh TIFF is used to help level the playing field and re-encourage the redevelopment of contaminated blighted, obsolete and historic properties uh in the city of Detroit.

And it's simplest um TIFF works by freezing the taxes at the current undeveloped value of the property.

You'll see that in the far left side of this chart here, uh in year one, and the the dark blue uh bars.

And uh that freezes the taxes.

Um and then the increase in property taxes uh is captured by the developer.

That is the yellow colored bars on here.

And the redevelopment cost of the taxes are captured by the developer and reimbursed to the developer over several years, in this case, 30.

Environmental cleanup, demolition, obsolete utilities, and other eligible costs.

Once those approved eligible activities are reimbursed to the developer, the Brownfield plan then sunsets and the properties taxes are fully received by all taxing jurisdictions.

You'll see in this proposal before you today that the taxes currently paid on the property are around 750,000, 800,000 a year.

You can move to the next slide, David.

So that uh this project is being developed by uh 402310 Holdings LLC, uh, who are the developer for the project, which includes the five parcels that previously talked about.

Um the project um does in the Brownfield plan proposed today, includes both uh the previous costs uh that were approved by council as well as the new costs uh related to the construction of a 15,000 seat stadium uh for soccer, uh a mixed-use building which will consist of 76 studio, one and two bedroom units, and uh 800 8,500 square feet of uh retail space, a 421 space parking deck, and then a 680 space uh surface parking lot.

Remediation uh and demolition work is underway uh in the building uh currently, and it's estimated that the new construction um projects will start construction in January of next year with eligible activities for the Brownfield plan uh completed in three years on the project.

Uh total um project again as David stated is uh estimated to be 198 million dollars.

Uh the developers requesting TIFF reimbursement of approximately 74 million dollars uh on the project.

The eligible costs uh included in that include uh environmental studies, uh department specific activities, otherwise known as environmental remediation and cleanup, uh lead and asbestos abatement demolition infrastructure costs, which also includes the parking deck, um, site preparation, and then housing development activities.

Uh and so you'll see here uh the developer on this uh has committed to out of the 76 total units, uh they've committed to making six of those 68 of those units affordable.

Um, and they are uh requesting a housing TIFF reimbursement through the brownfield plan uh to make eight of the units uh at 60% AMI, which uh comes out to 883 to 1,064 a month for those units, uh, from studio to two bedroom units, and then uh 60 units that are 80% AMI with rents ranging from uh $1,237 a month to $1,519 uh a month.

Um and the uh developer has stated uh that they are seeking to go even deeper uh with those with their affordability on this project through additional funding sources.

Uh but with this uh Brownfield plan, I just want to make it clear that uh this is the commitment uh being um uh sought in the brownfield plan, and this will be 30 years of affordability uh through the brownfield plan.

Uh and then as David said, there's additional tax abatements that we'll be talking about next after uh the brownfield hearing.

Uh the developer is estimating uh 1,030 temporary construction jobs uh as well as 142 full-time uh employees and then 523 part-time uh employees through the uh creation of the mixed-use projects we just talked about.

The Brownfield Authority uh did hold a neighborhood public hearing on Thursday, October 2nd uh of this year, and the minutes of that uh meeting are included uh in the city council submission.

And so that concludes my presentation to your honorable body.

Uh next up will be uh yeah, Sean Mann with Detroit City Football Club.

You may proceed.

Yeah, thank you, Chair, and appreciate having a chance to come before the committee again.

Started the club in 2012 with another group of friends here in the city.

And excited to be moving this project forward.

So go to the next slide.

Next slide.

This is the stadium, 15,000 seats, including retail that's outward facing, designed for soccer and mine, but also adaptable for other uses, including American football concerts, and other community events.

Next slide.

This is the housing component that Mr.

Bosberg was talking about.

So beyond the slide that you saw on our Brownfoot application as part of the CBO, we have committed that all 76 units would be affordable from a range of 40 to 80% AMI with an average of 60%.

But we have committed that 10% of the units would be fully accessible or type A, and at 100% would be type B type B that could be adaptable for accessibility.

And this would be addition to this, you know, using design, universal design principles of equitable use, flexibility, simple intuitive use in terms of like wayfinding signage, little physical barriers of entry, easy grips, round to countertops.

But yeah, all 76 units would be affordable with 6% average AMI.

To date and a lot of feedback and is around traffic and parking.

So we've worked with WSP to conduct an initial study.

And so based on what they've done in the past, as well as data looking around our current ticket users and traffic studies they've done, road counts.

And the remainder be ones that are existing parking lots that we are partnering with on our match days to utilize.

This shows the general areas.

That's why the parking deck is a key component to our vision to support density along the Michigan Avenue corridor, both for our events, but existing demand for parking with retail that's been developed there.

In the addendum here, there's uh presentation.

In the addendum here, uh there's uh presentation, there's uh greater detail um around the parking study that shows comparables with other venues, similar size soccer stadiums that would have similar usage to us, some similar size, if not larger, in similar car dependent cities and uh in an urban setting.

Um we also have included there a slide showing where WSP was suggesting uh where traffic mitigation and where event police would be to move traffic as efficiently as possible on uh match days.

It's part of our CBO.

Um, we'll do another traffic study in partnership with the city of Detroit.

Um, and then a year after the stadium opens, we'll do another uh traffic study uh to ensure that when you know Rover meets the road, um, that you know, the the movement of traffic is meeting the needs of the stadium and the surrounding uh neighborhood as well.

Um so um, you know, I think another kind of key component is you know, um looking at this is what WSP looked at was you know, looking at those kind of uh quote unquote like Easter Sunday type events when there's actually 15,000 people stadium and looking at comparable venues and our own traffic flow of um what we anticipate the max car usage being.

Um and uh they anticipate it would be uh just over 3,000 actual cars uh coming into the area, um, which there'd be uh far more parking spots, not just under our control, but existing parking, uh, whether it's structures or other private parking in the vicinity.

And we also anticipate that 15 to 20% of the attendees are gonna be coming by ride sharing and um as well as um roughly 500 um who would be coming by walking scooters or bikes, um, given that 18% of our fan base lives within um three miles of the stadium site.

So um go to the next slide here.

Um this is uh wanted to speak just to specific elements of uh the accessible design within the stadium uh based on um prior uh conversations, um, you know, some key elements.

Um one is that the whole stadium is on a level uh plane.

Um, and so um, you know, uh all gate entry gates around stadium will be accessible.

Um working with Detroit Disability Power Power as a consultant, as well as HOK's in house team, you know, working through equitable seating platforms, um, designated ADA drop-offs, um, working through um video uh captioned.

Uh we've never had a proper scoreboard before, so opened up all kinds of opportunities for us, uh, but also working through staff training programs, you know, just to make sure that the facilities as accessible as possible.

Um, but um, and then you know, public uh seating uh throughout the concourses, um, so a full site of making sure that we are uh you know reaching as many people in the community as possible in the facility.

Um next slide.

Um just building on sustainability efforts, spoke a bit before.

Um we are utilizing unique stormwater management system uh with our permovoid uh system, which we first signed to be permanently utilized here in a stadium, although it's been regularly adopted, venues in uh Europe for soccer stadiums.

Um also working in part of the CBO uh was uh waste management around food and recycling um efforts in the stadium.

Um then part of the uh CBO agreement was uh incentivizing you know transit and non-motorized transportation uh and actually doing a callback after three years and see if the non-motorized and transit utilization hasn't increased, uh revising our incentive efforts to continue uh greater non-motorized uh utilization or visits to the stadium.

Um then also uh you know we've committed to uh repurposing uh sound of Southwest Detroit Hospital as an art project uh to commemorate the history of the hospital and the site.

Um so working with the local art gallery to build out a plan around community engagement around that and execution.

Uh next slide.

Workforce development.

Um again, uh the DGC team spoke to job creation as part of the CBO.

We did agree to $17 minimum wage uh for all our employees as well as our vendors and uh utilizing first review, Detroit residents uh for applications in particular in the impact zone.

And then also that retail that we spoke of on 20th Street, dedicating that to small business development and partnership with Prosperous and marrying that with a $200,000 revolving low interest revolving loan fund to support those entrepreneurs on their growth out of the incubator inside the stadium and so retail spaces in the adjoining neighborhood.

Next slide.

And I know we'll have another hearing about that, but it was very well attended.

And you know, it was first and probably last time.

I will go through a process as a soccer team owner.

But I think we've come out on the other end with a you know a much more um community-oriented project.

Uh and you know, um excited to uh have a lot of elements there that will you know continue our engagement um in involvement of the surrounding neighborhood for years to come and as far as that with the next slide.

Just a list of uh entities that have uh expressed and ran in their support uh today with the stadium project and uh yeah, call to major questions.

Thank you.

Colleagues' questions, comments, concerns.

Oh no, this um I'm apologies, Ms.

Barcliff.

Yes.

Um, you have before you today the project developer 402310 Holdings LLC, a Michigan limited liability company who is seeking an amendment to the Brownfield plan that was approved on May 13, 2025.

The original plan was approved with the understanding that it was incomplete and that the amendment to the plan was likely.

The amended plan maintains the same five parcels um which are located on three of them are on 20th Street, one on Standish, and one on West Fisher.

The amended plan continues the demolition of the hospital and solidifies the plan for the construction of a new stadium for the Detroit City Football Club, a mixed use development, a vertical parking structure, and a surface parking lot.

The stadium is designed to be a multi-purpose stadium with seating for 15,000 patrons, which will include hospitality suites, DCFC team operations, media and press area, food and beverage concessions, commercial leasable space, and community gathering areas.

The new facility will include three buildings connected by a concourse.

The total square footage for the stadium will include the pitch and stadium areas is approximately 380,000 square feet.

The mixed use development is approximately what 190 um thousand eighty square feet, um, and will consist of 420 one um secured parking spaces, 8,440 eight square feet of ground floor commercial retail space, and a 76 unit um residential retail um I mean excuse me, apartment units.

Um there'll be a mixture of studio, one bedroom, and two bedroom units.

Pursuant to the amended plan, the actual development may vary from the description and maybe changed without amendment to the plan as long as the variations are not material andor arise as a result of the changes in market.

Um the Detroit Brown for Redevelopment Authority staff has the sole discretion to determine whether to change is material and immaterial changes may include changes to the number of residential units based on the charter above 89% of the apartments will be affordable.

However, 20% are only strictly guaranteed to be affordable.

Um it is probably unlikely that the affordable units will be considered immaterial, but I did want to point out that that was um terms in the agreement.

The surface parking, um, there will be an additional 680 surface parking spaces, which will be situated on Standish in West Fisher for the patrons of the stadium.

The basis of um eligibility, the property is considered considered eligible property because the property was pretty previously utilized as commercial and industrial purposes, and it's located within the city of Detroit as a qualified local government unit.

And the parcels comprised in the project are determined to be a facility and a housing project.

The eligible activities are financed solely by the develop the developer.

And the DBRA will reimburse the developer for the costs of approve eligible activities, but only from the tax increment revenues generated and captured from the property.

No advances have been or shall be made by the city or the DBRA for cost of eligible activities under this plan.

This developer is requesting a sizable increase for the TIFF reimbursement to increasing it to 74.2 million with the overall value of the plan at estimated at 84.4 million, which includes the brownfield costs.

Overall, um the project will create 1,030 temporary construction jobs, 420 mean, excuse me, 142 full-time positions, 523 part-time um positions.

And that concludes my presentation.

Thank you so much.

All right.

So uh wanted to again always like to telegraph the moves.

Uh we had the full presentation today about the project itself.

Of course, we have not gone through the um the NAC or the community benefits portion of it.

Just had a brief little touch on it.

We're gonna bring that, we're gonna talk about that on uh the 20th.

And so the goal is to bring back all of these items that we're discussing today with DCFC, not vote on them today, but bring them back as line items uh on this or excuse me on November 20th, so that we can uh vote on all of them together.

Um so that is the plan.

Just want to let the public know, seeing that we are again in a public hearing, um, and uh we'll be eliciting comments from the public.

All right, colleagues, any questions, comments, concerns?

Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I just have one question, and if someone can just um give a summation of this when you respond, I would appreciate it.

Um the remediation costs are pretty high.

Um, can somebody just share what the costs what the the remediation dollars are going towards?

Is it primarily demolishing the building?

Is it um the land?

Can can you all just kind of a brief summation of of what these dollars are going towards?

Um Mr.

Chair, I'd be able to answer that question.

Um in the Brownfield plan uh, which is uh has a total of 74.2 million dollars um being requested by the developer.

Um 6.5 of that, uh 6.5 million um, I should say of that is for environmental um studies as well as remediation.

Um 30.7 million dollars of that is um for non-environmental costs, uh which uh in interior asbestos and lead abatement uh is considered non-environmental by the state act.

Um obviously it has to follow environmental uh laws, but uh from a funding standpoint, it's considered um non-environmental.

Uh and also includes um a parking deck.

Uh so parking deck is about 15 million dollars of the 30 million dollar cost, uh, as well as site prep and uh infrastructure costs for the project.

Um, and then uh the housing um uh affordable housing request um for the 68 units um is uh 37 million dollars for the um the housing subsidy for that for the 30 year um brownfield plan life okay thank you and the developer is paying these costs and requesting reimbursement through the chair, yes.

The developer has to pay for all these costs up front um for these, and then they'll be reimbursed over 30 years, and the brownfield authority uh will be reviewing all of those costs before uh reimbursing uh for them to make sure that they're you know eligible for the program.

Uh the costs are reasonable for market uh conditions, uh, and then HRD will be uh assisting the Brownfield Authority in monitoring the affordability of the units over the 30-year uh lifetime of that tax incentive.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Welcome.

Well, also, Mr.

Chair.

Yes, ma'am.

Also, we've provided a breakdown of those costs on page three of our brown fruit report so that you could take a closer look at it later.

So that you could take a closer look at it later.

That's helpful.

Thank you.

Colleagues, any additional questions, comments, concerns before we take it to the public.

All right, we're gonna give the public an opportunity to ask their questions, provide their comments and concerns as well.

Uh, if you would like to do that, please raise your hand, whether you're in the committee of the whole.

I see one hand in the committee of the whole.

If you're at home or wherever you are watching on Zoom, please raise your hand now, going once, going twice.

Going three times.

Collection of public comments have now concluded.

We're going to start with the gentleman who's in the committee of the whole, give you an opportunity to sit there.

We're going to give everyone one minute for public comment online.

Item eight.

Good afternoon, council members.

My name is Anthony Eid.

I live in District 6 and serve as the policy director for community development advocates of Detroit, CDAT as well as COTS.

First off, congratulations to all of you on your re-election.

I appreciate y'all and hope y'all continue to serve the citizens of Detroit faithfully, as I know you will.

I'm also a big fan of DCFC and want to thank Mr.

Mann for his presentation earlier.

We recognize the commitments that they've already made in their community community benefits agreement.

76 housing units at 60% AMI, some at 50 is a really important step, but it doesn't quite get us all the way there.

I uh joined the voices from earlier today asking for a multi-year contribute contribution to the affordable housing trust fund, which as you know is one of the only mechanisms the city has to create protect and conserve deeply affordable housing in Detroit at 30% AMI and below.

Uh we know the Detroit AMI is lower than the regional AMI, so having affordable housing at 60% might not truly be affordable for Detroiters.

Uh so we ask Mr.

Mann that you commit to making this contribution.

You know, let's let the Northern Guard grow.

The fans of the ECFC calls themselves Northern Guard.

Let's let it go.

Yeah, one minute one minute.

I'm sorry.

Thank you.

I was listening for that that that noise, but I didn't hear it.

So I didn't hear it either.

Thank you.

I'm gonna give everyone again one minute for public comment.

Mr.

Chair, we have 12 callers online, with the first being Kathy Schneider.

Kathy Schneider, the floor is yours.

You have one minute regarding line item eight.

Hello, may I be heard?

Yes.

Hi, my name is Kathy Schneider.

I'm the vice president of the Western Corktown Association.

I own two properties at Michigan Ave in 18th.

And just wanted to say that we set in on every single one of the community benefits uh meetings that occurred, and we would like to we're in full support of the requested incentives for the DCFC project.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Owner Papa.

Caller, the floor is yours regarding line item eight.

Good afternoon, and through the chair may not be heard.

Yes.

Um here uh the person doing the uh 68 million, I'm sorry, 68 units, but 37 million to to clean it up, but it's reimbursed over a 30-year period.

Um, I was wondering, she said in the terms of the agreement that if they changed the number of housing, affordable housing, that they did not have to hold to that.

Is that what I heard her understand her to say?

Um, and I I disagree with uh uh another stadium unless we have something in the agreement that we get a portion of the ticket sales.

If this is a private uh stadium, then we should have some uh uh the entire public should gain and not just a district because it the pot of money that these this is coming out of is coming from the entire population of the city of Detroit.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is send all massive zoning proposals back so meaningful community engagement can be done.

Yeah, you can abbreviate next time.

You don't have to say the whole thing up.

Appreciate you though.

We got a feeling who that is.

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

Uh, you have one minute regarding line item eight.

Caller, are you there?

Caller, are you there?

Let's put that caller at the end of the queue and go to the next caller, please.

Our next caller is Tahira Ahmed.

All right, caller, the floor is yours regarding line item eight.

Yes, Tahira may good afternoon from uh district two.

Uh I'm I'm against uh any new product projects until we can do a study on how uh many of the uh affordable so-called portable houses are truly affordable for Detroiters, and how many people are that are employed are actually black people from Detroit.

It appears like these projects are a means for gentrification uh in our city.

Uh there's not we need houses for our families.

She is wanting to play out there in the backyard, the front yard, walk down the street, go to school.

The trend here in this city has been anti-family, and we've been illegally over taxed 600 million dollars and illegally foreclosed 100,000 homes.

So we need homes, not apartments.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is William M.

Davis.

William M.

Davis, the floor is yours regarding line item eight.

Uh, good afternoon.

Can I be heard?

Yes, sir.

Okay, I like to say that in general, I'm I'm in favor of more development, more things happen to more revenue being generated by the city.

I I think that if this project is approved, the city should be getting more than what it's getting, you know, proposed to get.

Uh, I also I think it should be more more affordable housing included in this.

Also, I think that there's not enough parking.

I think that's going to be a major problem, and there's already a lot of congestion in that area when anything is going on.

Uh I think they could possibly even make money if they had a bigger parking facility and that they could possibly rent you know, at least option spaces to people during normal time to cut down on the amount of parking congestion downtown.

Uh, I think this project still needs some more work, and I think the city's giving out too much of our money, not returning nothing to the community.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Jose Maldonado.

Caller, the floor is yours regarding line item eight.

Caller, are you there?

Good evening.

May I be heard?

Uh, yes.

Thank you.

Um council members, I'm uh Jose Maldonado, Main Street Director for Mexican Town Main Street program under the Southwest Detroit Business Association.

We strongly support the Detroit City Football Club New Stadium in Southwest Detroit.

It's not just a sports project, it's a community investment that will bring energy, visitors, and opportunity to our local businesses along Main Street in Mexican town.

DCSC's leadership, especially Sean Mann, has shown real commitment to partnering with our community and respect in a respectful and meaningful way.

We're proud to stand behind the project that reflects the spirit and diversity of Southwest Detroit.

Gracias.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Jim Brunel.

The floor is yours regarding line item eight.

Let's put that caller at the end of the queue and go to the next caller, please.

Our next caller is John Sarge.

John Sarge, the floor is yours regarding line item eight.

Yes, I've been.

John Tark here, I'm the 38-year resident and homeowner in District 6.

I'm been a longtime supporter of Detroit City Football Club.

Uh I know that the leadership of the football club will work, do everything possible to meet all the present agreements.

We have a challenge in the city of getting rid of these related areas and bringing new opportunities in.

I believe this is one of them that helps bridge two communities links both the Southwest side and Corktown.

Um I also attended every CBO meeting during the process and think an agreement that's come together.

Um very good.

So let me just say I'm in full support and hope the council ratifies uh the present agreements so we can move forward on building a new stadium and getting rid of that eyesore.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Rachel Harkay.

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

You have one minute regarding line item eight.

Good afternoon, may I be heard?

Yes.

My name is Rachel Harkeye.

I'm a resident of Hubbard Farms, about half a mile from the proposed stadium site.

I walk past this area several times a week.

I am a supporter of DCFC and was initially excited about this project.

However, as you consider this abatement, I'd like you to consider how this TIFF protects the developers' risks, but offers residents no comparable upside and minimal safeguards against rising rents and displacement.

The dollars being captured here are meant for our schools, libraries, and special education, the systems that make our neighborhoods livable.

The negotiated community benefits total less than 3% of the tax relief slated through the brownfield TIFF and other abatements.

At this scale, the community's return doesn't come close to balancing the millions in public tax revenue being diverted to support the project.

I urge the council to consider strengthening the community's upside in this agreement by guaranteeing additional benefits dedicated to housing stabilization and home repair, replacing voluntary transit incentives with enforceable targets and ensuring public report.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Sam Butler.

Sam Butler, the floor is yours regarding line item eight.

Good afternoon.

Thank you, Honorable Bonnie, for the time.

I am proud of some of the things that we fought for during our CBA process.

And that includes affordable housing.

So I just wanted to clarify something for the public discourse.

I believe I heard Miss Barcliff mention that only 20% of the affordable of only 20% of the units would be affordable according to the terms of the agreement.

I believe that is the Brownfield agreement.

Uh, whereas our CBA that we negotiated goes much deeper than that on affordability.

So I just wanted to clarify that point.

And if for some reason I am misunderstanding the situation, I'm sure the NAC would love to know about it.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Greg Mangan.

Caller, the floor is yours.

You have one minute regarding line item eight.

Good afternoon, Council members.

My name is Greg Mangan with the Southwest Detroit Business Association.

And previously, as my colleague Jose Maldonado with the Mexican Main Main Street stated, uh we wanted to offer full-throated support for DCFC and this proposed development.

We believe this will bring um much needed economic development to the community, including housing, importantly, affordable housing.

We need more of that desperately in all incomes uh for housing in Southwest Detroit and Detroit as a whole.

Their commitments to having a retail uh incubation and helping small businesses is uh laudable.

And um, as the previous uh uh caller mentioned, they've gone through the uh neighborhood advisory committee and reached a uh agreement with uh um the NAC, and we think it's been a thoughtful proposal that doesn't inundate the neighborhood with too many parking lots and has been thoughtful about their approaches to transit development and housing.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Richard Nodo.

All right, caller, the floor is yours regarding line on a hi.

May I be heard?

Yes.

Hi, congratulations on everyone who won your election to the city council and of course Mary Sheffield, who'll be our great new mayor.

Um we uh Kathy Schneider and myself live right across the street from the development and we support it wholly.

Uh the NAC committee for whatever reason decided not to take any of our suggestions in terms of how the impact would have on our parking situation and the streets.

So I will be sending to the committee our uh need for additions to the NAC for improved that so that we maintain our parking, number one, and number two, to beautify the streets between uh 14th and 20th street.

They're a mess.

The one the NAP wanted to beautify Weston Verna, which is not that bad, but they seem to ignore us.

We'll get back to you on November 20th.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Bill Cheek.

Bill Cheek, the floor is yours.

You have one minute regarding line item eight.

Hi, thanks to the committee for tabling this until November 20th to provide us with an opportunity to speak against this development as bad for our neighborhood.

The community has concerns, not the least of which is the inadequacy of the CBA is currently outlined that provides 700 grand in free tickets instead of putting money into the already inadequate home repair fund offer.

Nothing in the CBA provides an equitable offset to the host of negative impacts the stadium will create.

On Saturday, October 25th, the preserve on ash created a potentially toxic dust cloud when cleaning streets around the development.

And we subsequently discovered the developer had never filed a fugitive dust plan.

As a downwind residence to this, a resident to the stadium, how can we be assured that the residents are kept fully informed about the toxic substances on the site and that the developers using best practices to ensure toxic fugitive dust doesn't contaminate our homes?

Thanks.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Marguerite Scarlet Maddox.

Marguerite Scott Scarlet Maddox.

The floor is yours regarding line item eight.

Yes.

Why not take everything together?

That people were not getting confused.

Why not take it shortly and slowly?

But we can get back to the house situation.

How many how many 88 accessible?

And then should be and with the stadium.

We need to hold that on a little bit because they uh something that we need to keep go over again with with the such a baby issue with the D D Plus.

I had some ideas about including a with the camp reverse games.

Um gang.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Mr.

Chair, we are back to send all massive zoning.

All right.

Caller, the floor is yours.

You have one minute regarding line item eight.

Caller, are you there going once?

Going twice.

Going three times, caller, are you there?

Unfortunately, we're gonna have to move on if you would like to provide your comments to the clerk's office.

They will they will be placed onto public record.

Next caller, please.

Our last caller is Jim Brunell.

All right, Jim Brunell, the floor is yours.

You have one minute.

We're gonna get that clock back up for you.

Mr.

Jim Brunel, the floor is yours.

One minute regarding line item eight.

Are you there?

Going once.

Going twice, caller.

Are you there?

Going three times.

Are you there?

Yes, I'm here.

Can you hear me?

Yes, sir.

Floor's yours.

I just like to uh acknowledge that I do support the new arena in the Corktown area.

I've been a resident here for uh my entire life.

Um, and I'd also like to see the uh community benefits uh be applied across the board for other uh uh corporations in the neighborhood.

Thank you so much.

All right, we're gonna give the presenters an opportunity to respond to these particular questions that have been posed.

Yeah, uh Chair Shaw Man here.

Glad to jump in with uh some of the things are brought up here.

Um so in the CBO agreement, we do have an allocation of 3,000 tickets dedicated to uh free uh to folks in the impact zone.

Um, but I would say that uh you know that's in the CBO agreement.

Uh I think we have a long standing history of uh donations to community groups and nonprofits across the city.

Um and that's not something we would see changing, uh, but that's the baseline that we committed to in the CBO.

Um in terms of um, you know, families and engagement, you know, very proud of our nonprofit arm, uh, which runs a pay you can afford youth travel soccer program for kids in the fan uh families, uh kids here in the city.

Um you know, we've never turned uh with Norway Large Obstacle, travel soccer.

We've never turned away a kid uh for financial need.

Um and so there's close to 300 families in the city that participate in that, and we launched an initiative um back in 21.

That's now national, uh in particular to engage African-American youth in the sport, which we know is typically seen as white suburban or uh Latino.

And so that's something that's grown into year-round programming, partnership Detroit public school district.

Um the comments um, you know, I think around um the well, affordable housing, appreciate um, you know, uh clarifying, right?

That we've committed that all 76 units of it would be affordable housing, um with a range of 40 to 80% AMI.

Um and uh, you know, we are working to apply for going deeper on that, but that's what we've committed to at this point with the CBO um agreement.

Um to Miss Maddox's point, yeah, just clarifying that 10% would be fully accessible or type A, uh and that 100% would be type B is adaptable.

Um for the housing units, and we are working with Detroit disability power um to exceed ADA uh compliance in the stadium uh with design elements, partnership with our architects at HOK.

And um, you know, in terms of the amount um, you know, for um what we agree to in the CBO.

I mean, glad to go in that greater in the 20th.

Um we feel that is in line or not if not exceeding uh what's been the precedent with other CBOs in the city.

Um and you know that this project is unique and that it is you know privately owned.

And so um for us to make this viable, you know, we had to seek these tax abatements, but as part of our butt four of this project, we you know um are paying property taxes um unlike the other stadiums here in Detroit are the norm across the country.

Um so um I think that covered most everything.

Oh, and sorry, the future depths plan um to Mr.

Cheek's comments.

Um yes, um we're working with uh B S E D now on that as we're gearing up for um starting proper abatement in the hospital, and we're working um to build out our communications channels in alignment with the CBO, uh just being a good neighbor, keeping everyone abreast as real um uh significant activity starts happening in the hospital here in the coming weeks, uh and certainly by the end of the year.

All right.

So I know uh question for me is uh regarding the uh conversion of let's say we're two years into you know everything being populated, uh the apartments being populated.

Excuse me.

Uh if if someone at that point needs their uh unit converted from B to A, walk me through that process.

If you already have all of your A units that are occupied.

Uh but could I tap in our owners' rep-ed Siegel here?

Yes, uh, thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Uh there's a couple different ways in which that can be converted.

Um largely speaking, the uh doors of each unit will be wide enough to be with already wide enough to be wheelchair.

I'm sorry, maybe I wasn't clear.

I don't take the responsibility for that.

Just talk to me about what that for the tenant themselves.

Do they reach out to you and say, I'm having uh I now my lifestyle is now changed, uh my mobility has changed and I now need this assistance.

Is it now the responsibility of that tenant to uh pay for the conversion, or is that something that is absorbed by uh by you all?

Yeah, no, sir.

That that's the responsibility of the uh housing development to take that care of that.

Okay, so if you have a B or C unit that's available uh and you have someone and again the A units are already occupied, and they are in need of an A unit.

Talk to me about what that potential conversion can look like at that point.

Is there are we saying that they would have a conversion opportunity, or is it only for those who are currently occupied in your um in your units?

That's a good question, sir.

And I I think the the answer to that is it depends on what the need is.

Um, for example, if it's uh perhaps just something assistance-wise or something uh, you know, that where actual wheelchair access is required.

Uh I think we would work with that particular tenant to make sure that they can stay uh occupied in their existing home.

Okay, but again, someone coming.

I'd just like to get a little bit more because we got another one that's coming our way that also has that, and we've kind of allowed the broad language to kind of sit there, but want to kind of put a finer point on it as we start to try to address these issues with our uh community who have uh the disabilities.

So just again, just a little bit more detail.

If I'm if all of your units, how how give me reasonable assurance that if you have someone who uh is in need of a type A, and all you have are type Bs available.

Talk to me about what in terms of reasonable assurance that they would be able to uh have that concern addressed uh at no cost to them.

Or is that something that's not in your model?

No, it is that no one would be displaced because of a need uh for a type A unit.

But you're saying displaced, because I'm uh again, displaced means there's someone who's already living there.

I'm talking about someone just correct, sir.

So I guess what I'm saying is that uh what I'm what I'm saying is that they would not, if they're in a type B unit, which 100% are gonna be type B units and type C units, converting uh those and to be adaptable uh to their specific need, meaning roll up uh access for uh sinks and uh uh arm height for uh individual appliances and roll up for sinks in the bathrooms, lavatories, et cetera.

Uh the we would make sure that those are accessible for people in need that need them.

All right.

Definitely looking at that.

We got a little more time, uh offline conversation to get a little bit more details on that.

I know didn't bring it up in the meeting that we had, but you know, that's the reason why we don't vote on stuff immediately when it comes to us because other ideas and questions, concerns come from the community that we want to respond to.

Colleagues, any additional questions, comments, concerns?

See none.

Uh is there a motion to bring this item back as a uh this public close this public hearing and bring it back as a line item on 1120.

So move, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you so much, sir.

There's a motion to close out this public hearing and bring it back as a line item on 1120.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Thank you so much.

We shall now close out this public hearing.

That is again the 1045 public hearing line item eight.

Well, now I'd like to call back to order the 1050 public hearing with the parties who are participating, please cue up.

The 1050 public hearing, same project, it's commercial rehabilitation, excuse me, commercial facilities exemption certificate requested in this particular uh line item.

And uh we saw the overall presentation for the project.

Uh, if we can now focus on the commercial facilities exemption certificate uh request itself, give you an opportunity to do so.

You may begin.

Mr.

Cook, is that yes, sir?

All right, floor is yours.

Thank you.

To the chair 402310 Holdings LLC is requesting a commercial facilities exemption certificate at 2201, 2301, 2401 20th Street, Detroit, Michigan.

This application is for a certificate, and this is the final public hearing currently scheduled in front of this honorable committee before a certificate may be approved and issue.

I'd like to turn it over to the DEGC for their presentation, and their petitioner is here to answer any additional questions.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And because we didn't do a round of introductions, if you can make sure you introduce yourself before you speak, please, for the clerk's record.

Thank you.

I am David Howell, sir.

Uh with DGC.

May I share my screen?

Yes, sir.

Thank you, sir.

We are here today to uh request the uh approval of a certificate for the uh PA 255.

Won't spend time going over the project again, sir.

Um I'll just move to the next slide.

The commercial facilities exemption uh PA 255 uh provides a 50 percent reduction on improved on improved on the improved value for new construction.

Uh and by statute, it could last up to uh 12 years, and as we've you know always indicate, all incentives are performance-based and contingent upon the project being completed.

Uh the two PA255 uh district hearing was uh October 30th.

Uh the assessor uh issued a letter uh indicating that the district uh was eligible uh or the site was eligible to uh establish a district on uh September 3rd.

Uh and did so with respect to the certificate uh on uh September 16th.

Uh we have conducted our uh internal analysis at DGC and are recommending uh uh 12-year uh abatement.

Uh there uh the existing property taxes are $32,608 after the property is improved, and this is for the stadium itself.

Uh after the stadium is built.

Uh if there was no abatement, uh there'd be approximately 2.9 million dollars uh in taxes that the owner would pay.

Uh with the abatement, uh the owner uh is estimated to pay 1.6 million dollars uh in taxes annually.

Uh and the net fiscal benefit over the life of all the incentives is 11.6 million dollars, uh, which is real money that adores to the general fund.

Uh with that, uh Mr.

Chairman, uh, that is concluded uh my presentation, and of course I'm available to answer any questions.

As well as the petitioner.

Thank you.

Uh Ms.

Bark Left.

Yes.

Um since the other presentation, I'll just kind of skip to the monetary portion of the for this um abatement.

The estimated total tax um total capital investment for the stadium portion of the project is 153 million dollars.

It is estimated that the completed project will create well, this portion of the project will create 165 full-time jobs.

38 of those jobs will be relocated, and 127 of those of those will be newly created, 523 part-time jobs and 803 temporary construction jobs.

The 12-year commercial development tax abandonment is estimated to provide the developer with a tax savings of 12 million dollars.

Um, based on the investment, this project is also estimated to provide the city of Detroit with a net benefit of 11.6 million, and all of the impact jurisdictions combined with the benefit of 27 million dollars of the 12 years of the commercial redevelopment tax abate.

That concludes my portion of the presentation.

Thank you so much, attorney Barclay.

All right, colleagues, questions, comments, concerns.

Again, same project, different requests.

We have the information in front of us.

I don't have any questions myself.

Um we'll now go to the public.

If there's anyone from the public who would like to speak on line item nine, that is our 1050 public hearing, the presentation that you just saw.

Please raise your hand now.

There's anyone who would like to speak on line item nine, the 1050 public hearing.

Please please raise your hand now.

Going once, going twice, going three times.

Collection of public comments have now concluded.

Ms.

Jackie.

How many callers do we have, man?

We have two callers online.

The three.

Three.

Sorry, my apologies.

Three callers.

The first being owner Papa.

All right, we're gonna give everyone a minute for public comment for line item nine.

Caller, the floor is yours.

Good afternoon, and through the chair, may have you heard.

Yes, Carolyn Hughes.

Um did I understand Ms.

Um did I understand Miss Barcliff to say that there were 523 part-time jobs that will be created, and I was wondering why such a large number of part-time jobs.

Um and what type of jobs would these be if this number is correct.

That's an awful lot.

And what is the commitment that they have given that these jobs will go to Detroiters all over Detroit, not just in a district to make sure that we stop seeing the disparity that we're seeing in terms of jobs and in uh money spent in areas.

This has gotten a lot of money um uh focused on just this one area, and then the benefits go to just this one area.

If if they're guaranteed 3,000 tickets, I think the 3,000 tickets should go to the entire city and not just one area.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our next caller is Richard Noto.

Caller, the floor is yours.

We have one minute regarding line item nine.

Hi, um Richard Noto, president of the Western Qualking Association.

Uh work with Catish United.

We definitely support uh this incentive.

Uh the development of the commercial property will be an infinite for all the different buildings and Western Coop Town to grow and develop as long as we uh have the incentives that we promised in the past, and we continue to have our critical amount the parking spots so the buildings can be preserved.

So we definitely love to see this move forward.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Our last caller is Marguerite Scarlet Maddox.

Marguerite Scarlet Maddox.

The floor is yours regarding line item nine.

Okay.

And it is 88 reclimate.

And they get better with tech.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And it takes us to the end of our public comments, and we'll give the presenters an opportunity to respond to the questions.

Yeah, Sean here.

Uh in terms of the 520 some part-time jobs.

Um, yeah, I mean, that reflects uh the staffing for an event.

And uh there's a lot of people that go into uh hosting safely and efficiently, you know, uh 10,000, 15,000 people, right?

So that's everyone from ambulance to security to concessions to users to um, you know, uh custodial work.

Um, yeah, uh full spectrum.

So you know we've uh committed CBO to doing annual jobs fairs.

Um uh we started posting jobs already on Detroit works.

Um, so um, yeah, I live in the neighborhood.

Uh I know we're coming out of the NAC that's very focused on the impact zone, but um, you know, well, Mr.

Man, I think a bigger question is the part-time aspect of it.

Why so many part-time as opposed to full-time employment?

Well, we're in we're event-based, right?

So uh we'll be hosting, you know, 30-ish large-scale events.

Um, and so, you know, it's not like LCA um that has 200 some events a year.

Um, you know, soccer team only plays 20 2024 uh home games a year, uh, then we have all of other you know, collector pro events or concerts.

So um that 525 reflects what a typical event staff looks like on one of those event days.

Okay, you may proceed.

Um the um I think to Miss Maddox question, um uh in terms of 255 that's related to a stadium, and there's no uh federal funding attached to that, but they're um for the uh housing component.

Um we'll be applying for uh Light Tech funding.

Um, but that would be the only federal component to any of the um stadium or adjacent development here.

And uh uh in terms of the parking, Mr.

Noto, I mean, we will uh actually have more street parking um because of a couple spots, um, and then we are building the 400-car parking deck uh right there.

So um I think there'll be definitely a net gain in parking uh in the area on this project.

Thank you.

Colleagues, any additional questions, comments, concerns regarding line item nine.

See none.

Is there a motion to close out this public hearing and bring back as a line item on 1120?

So I'll move Mr.

Chair.

Thank you so much, Member Vice Chair.

There's a motion to close out this public hearing and bring back as a line item on 1120 hearing no objections.

That action shall be taken.

Thank you so much.

This now closes out the 1050 public hearing.

Would now like to call back the call back to order, excuse me, the 1055 public hearing.

Uh the parties who are participating please cue up.

The 1055 public hearing is a commercial rehabilitation certificate on behalf of 40231 holdings.

Um, this is in this same project, uh different request here.

FYI.

Um, give you an opportunity to introduce yourself when you uh prior to you speaking.

So we will allow Mr Cook to begin.

Justice Cook Housing and Revitalization Department for the Chair 402310 Holdings LLC is requesting a commercial rehabilitation certificate at 2201, 2301, 2401, 20th Street, Detroit, Michigan.

This application is for a certificate, and this is the final public hearing currently scheduled in front of this honorable committee before a certificate may be approved and issue.

I would like to turn it over to David Howe with the Detroit Economic Growth Corporation.

Thank you.

Thank you, Justice.

Uh good afternoon.

I'm David Howell, uh, the Detroit Economic Growth Corporation.

Um, Mr.

Chairman, may I share my screen, please?

Yes, sir.

Thank you, sir.

Uh this request uh is uh Justice uh indicated is uh a certificate uh PA210 commercial rehab certificate.

Uh yeah, with me here.

I'm having a little difficulty.

Okay, we uh the project uh the certificate is for the mixed use component of the project, uh which includes uh 22 million dollar investment.

400 uh in 21 uh space parking deck, 8,500 square feet of retail.

There is uh uh wrapped around, if you will, the deck uh parking, the proposed parking deck are uh proposed 76 residential units.

Uh the 76 residential units are not part of this PA210 as but just highlighting that as part of the mixed use development.

There are 15 full-time jobs expected to create uh be created uh with 130 construction jobs.

The uh PA210 uh provides a reduced tax rate on the value of the commercial improvements, uh and by statute uh can last up to 10 years.

And of course, all incentives are performance-based and contingent contingent upon the project being completed.

Uh the district, uh this this district was actually established in 2018.

Uh, and then the certificate uh eligibility uh report that the assessor authors was issued on October uh 9th of 2025.

uh and by statute uh can last up to 10 years and of course all incentives are performance based and contingent contingent upon the project being completed uh the district uh this this this district was actually established in 2018 uh and then the certificate uh eligibility uh report that the assessor authors was issued on october uh ninth of 2025 we've conducted our internal analysis and uh our recommending uh to this honorable body uh 10 year tax abatement uh there are uh the existing property taxes on the site are 5700 dollars a year uh if in fact uh the property is built and there is no tax abatement granted the property taxes on an annual basis uh starting out will be 321 32932 dollars uh if in fact the abatement is approved after construction is completed uh the property taxes would actually be uh estimated or estimated to be 1474 uh forty five dollars uh it is estimated that the net fiscal benefit to the city notwithstanding the tax abatement um will be 2.7 million dollars over the life of the uh all of the incentives and with that uh mr chairman uh my presentation is concluded uh i'd like to turn it over to miss barcliffe uh with your permission so yes sir attorney barcliffe the floor is yours ma'am thank you um as indicated this this this um pa2 ten um tax abatement will apply to the mixed use development with the parking structure um indicated in the brown field brownfield presentation was a mix of sixty percent am i eighty percent am i um for the residential units however the developer plans to um seek out light tech um financing to make the project more affordable to be at really the for the entire project to be at the 60 percent am i so i did want to note that and also um although the whole development under the brown field includes five properties for both the 210 and the 255 it really they only the tax abatements only apply to the properties on 20th street um the total estimated um capital investment for this portion of the project is 22 million the sources of fund um the project is estimated to create 15 fte jobs and 114 temporary construction jobs and the total value of the 10 year commercial rehabilitation tax savings is estimated 1.8 million this project is estimated to provide the city of detroit with a net benefit of 2.7 million and a total net benefit for all tax and jurisdictions involved at two at 4.9 million um combined over the next 10 years of the commercial rehabilitation tax abatement and that concludes my presentation thank you so much colleagues uh questions comments concern regarding this particular request same project be coming back all right seeing none we shall now go to the public if there's anyone from the public who would like to speak on this particular public hearing that is the 1055 public hearing please raise your hand now if there's anyone who would like to speak online item wait yes 1055 public hearing line item 10 please raise your hand now going once going twice going three times collection of public comments have now concluded miss jackie how many callers do we have and who do we have first we're gonna give them one minute we have one caller and that's miss marguerite scarlet maddox okay miss marguer scarlet maddox the floor is yours regarding line item 10 yes um something about the tax because we about how we did um then miss can you restate that the the the question again what was that question i apologize okay and

About we're gonna miss Mellon, can you restate that the question again?

What was that question?

I apologize.

Okay.

And hard time understanding about what the project.

No that particular project.

Okay.

I'll have I'll uh have him restate it.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

All right, thank you so much.

Um if we can restate what's being requested in this particular uh item.

Yes, to the uh chair.

Uh it is uh PA210 commercial rehab certificate on the parking deck in the retail.

Um the residential units are not part of this certificate request.

So it's just the parking deck and the retail.

Okay, all right.

Thank you so much, colleagues.

Any additional questions, comments, concerns regarding line item 10.

Seeing none, colleagues.

Oh, I'm I'm sorry, I'm I saw that look.

Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I'm um just wanted to ask if you might facilitate a direct conversation with Miss Maddox because I think she was asking about the entire project.

Okay, thank you.

Absolutely, absolutely.

Uh, I don't think uh you have any objection with having that discussion with Miss Ms.

Maddox, do you uh to the development team or even the EGC?

We coordinate all and I'm sorry it to the chair.

Uh I'm sorry if I misunderstood the question.

No, that is it's not on you.

Just if if you're up to it, we're gonna set it up.

Absolutely.

Okay, we'll make that happen.

Thank you so much.

So, team, let's make sure we coordinate.

All right, colleagues, is there a motion to uh close out line item 10 and bring back the public hearing as a line item on 1120?

So moved.

There's a motion to close out the public hearing, the 1055 public hearing bring back as a line item on 1120.

So all items will appear at the same time for approval request.

See no objections that action shall be taken.

Thank you so much.

This now closes out the 1055 public hearing.

Uh we have gotten a note that uh neighborhood and community services will not be meeting today, so that'll give us an opportunity to complete our agenda, and we're gonna dive right into the rest of our unfinished business portion.

Line item 11.11 status of housing and revitalization request for a PA210 certificates, or that's a commer commercial rehabilitation certificate uh for Broderick Tower LLC.

Please so move.

Thank you so much.

Bring forward the developer and others.

All right, I know that there was a uh question that was posed.

Wanna give you an opportunity to respond as a result of it coming back?

Are you all not familiar with why it's coming back?

Uh no, uh Mr.

Mr.

Chair, um uh I'm happy to kind of get us started.

So um so um please introduce yourself for the record, sir.

Um before you speak for all sure, yeah.

Um Nevin Trokar consultant to the developer uh Mr.

R of Direccian.

Um so what we had talked about last week in committee was um this is a hundred and twenty-five unit apartment building.

Um it was last uh sort of renovated from an office building to a residential building uh converted in use uh back in 2009.

Uh that use is going to remain the same.

It's still going to be an apartment building after renovation.

Um there's a number of obsolete um items within the building that need to be updated.

Um and so uh three of the units inside the building are currently ADA type A units.

Uh type A means fully accessible.

Um the remainder of the units, uh so 122 of them are type B accessible.

Uh and so there were some questions.

I think um uh Aura, the developer is is prepared to sort of answer um uh you know that uh regarding sort of how those modifications within the building would occur if there are more than uh three ADA uh residents or or more residents that would require uh modifications to their units.

So um uh with your permission, Mr.

Chair, if uh if Aura could could maybe uh detail that.

Absolutely.

Floor is yours, sir.

Please introduce yourself for the record and you may proceed.

Sorry about that.

Right Rosh with TIR equities.

Thank you for your time today.

I wanted to address the issues that were brought up in the previous session.

Uh we have, as Nevin mentioned, we have currently we have three ADA units that are in the building.

All the units are set up to be type B units that can be modified into ADA units as requested by residents who would apply to for residency in the building.

It would be the cost of the of us, the landlord and the developer, to convert those units over based on their request.

Oh, sounded like that was a commerce.

Period though.

Okay.

Oh, I'm sorry.

So that so the modifications, I'm sorry.

The modifications would include grab bars, uh depending on the disability would include grab bars at a minimum, as well as some notification systems for blind and or deaf, as well as roll-in for wheelchair accessible cabinetry and countertop heights, as well as showering facilities.

I'm gonna ask the same question I asked the uh previous uh developer.

Uh if if I'm a new tenant and all of the type A's are or potential tenant, excuse me, a potential tenant, and all type A's are, you know, all three of them are uh being occupied are occupied.

Uh what is the process for me to get one of the unoccupied B units uh converted?

And how would I even know that that's even uh uh opportunity?

Uh one, we would you would when you when you apply, we would we would you would ask us, we would tell you.

Um we would put it on our on the website.

Uh well, we mark it on Zillow.

We don't really have a functional website at this moment in time.

That's being built.

The one that's up right now isn't really functional, but we would market it that way that ADA units are available.

Okay.

But I mean, again, if I don't see the units um listed, how would I know that the conversion is an opportunity?

If I convert even if I don't ask, if I just go and hey, what do you have available?

And uh conversion could be conversion as a statement could be listed in the in the unit description.

The units that are ADA that are listed a bit when those units are available and when they're marketed, they they would be marketed with an ADA notation on the unit itself.

So you would know that if it's unit, what uh let's just pick a number 608, if that's an a unit that is ADA currently an ADA unit, that would be marketed at 628, and then it would say in the description that it's an ADA unit.

Right.

But the scenario I'll keep uh I'm I'm constantly talking about is one where it's the all three of them are already occupied.

If I am coming you know, looking for housing right now, and I go with a broader tower, if all of this goes through.

Go over to Broderick Tower, and I have ex accessibility uh issues.

Uh all of your type A's are currently occupied.

How would I know that a conversion is even possible?

Uh and you have a you have B's that are available.

How would I know that that's an opportunity for me to even ask the question?

Well, one, we would if you're looking at a website and you're seeing the units that are available in the description of the unit, it would say conversion to ADA is available.

Okay.

That's number one.

So it actually I'm just saying it it you say is it's going to say that because it's I'm gonna hold you to what you say now.

Yes, sir.

You're actually putting language uh on the website that anyway.

We would put on the description of the property that ADA conversion is available for units that are available if you so choose to move in.

Okay.

All right.

And then when you can't when you would come to the if you if you let's say you didn't see that and you came to the building to apply, and we noticed that you were disabled in some fashion, or you make aware of us if it's something that we can't see, then we would let you know that a conversion of a unit is available for you.

Got it.

And this is the HRD.

You may not have this information, but this may be a new data data set, data set that we have to um begin.

But do we know how often it takes place?

How often do these conversions actually happen?

And certainly not looking at every project in the city of Detroit, but for the projects that uh come before us for incentives.

Um do we have any idea how often the requests for conversions actually take place?

The chair.

This is my name is Kyle Forey, I'm the director of preservation and asset management with HRD.

We don't currently have that data set as far as I know.

Happy to confer with our department's policy team.

But as far as I know, we don't know.

Okay.

Because it's constantly now put in front of us that this is an opportunity.

But the question is how, you know, again, how do people know and how often do uh is is this uh opportunity utilized?

And you know, I don't want to just talk about it, I want to make sure that it's uh it creates impact and and not just a a checkpoint, so to speak.

And I'm not saying that about this project, but just in general, period, um, at least for me.

That's a cons that's a concern that I have moving forward.

All right, colleagues.

Um, yes, sir.

Uh Mr.

Thank you, sir.

Uh I think we could uh join in that effort uh typically uh with incentive requests, obviously.

We're the first uh many times the first uh stop, if you will, for a developer.

And uh I'll just be candid with you.

We have not in the past uh look to uh uh get that information, but we could start uh because again, we're we're typically the the first stop uh along the development process.

Okay, we appreciate that.

That is uh extremely helpful.

Um so we'll have a conversation with with with various entities with DEGC included uh to see how we get this uh better tracking.

As you probably have heard, we're uh trying to do a lot better about the I believe 13 percent population in the city of Detroit who have uh disabilities that we are are aware of.

So uh with all these projects that are coming on board online, we have to make sure that we evolve as well our processes and expectations uh for our community.

All right, colleagues, any additional questions, comments, concerns.

All right, seeing none.

I believe we just did public comment.

Is there a motion?

Did we not do it on this one?

I'm getting confused myself.

I thought Miss Ms.

Yes, we completed public comment.

Yeah, I thought Ms.

Maddox was the was the only person.

All right.

Is there a motion, colleagues?

Or if there are additional questions, comments, concerns.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I'll move to send 11 uh point one to formal with the recommendation to approve.

All right, there's a motion to send uh line item.

Oh, you know what?

This is not even public hearing.

I'm sorry.

I'll there's a motion to send line item 11.1 to formal with a recommendation to approve.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

Thank you all.

All right, line item 11.2 status of housing and revitalization.

This is a request to reprogram amendment uh to the community development block grant C D B G annual action plans for multiple fiscal years.

Uh is there a motion to discuss and or approve?

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Move to send a formal with a recommendation to approve.

There's a motion to send line item 11.2 to formal with the recommendation to approve.

Seeing no objections, and action shall be taken.

Line item 11.3 status of office of contract and procurement, contract number 600690.

100% grant funding.

This is to provide public investment evaluation software system.

Uh colleagues, can we get a motion to bring this line item back in one week?

I just wanted to get a little bit more on the uh proof of performance for this particular item, and I did not have an opportunity to review what was provided to us.

So thank you so much.

There's a motion.

There has been a motion.

There is a motion for uh to bring back in one week line item 11.3.

See no objections, that action shall be taken.

Line item 11.4 status of office and cop of contracting and procurement contract number 6007519.

100% C D B G D our funding.

This is for a project manager for Jefferson Chalmers flood flooding and floodplain mitigation study and projects.

Is there a motion to discuss, please?

So move.

Thank you.

Member Johnson, I know this was one of concern of yours and wanted to give you the space to um get the questions answered if you have not had that.

Floor is yours, ma'am.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

And I'm not sure who we have here to address this, but I just want to uh ask if we can um essentially put on the record what is before us.

I had specific requests about um the process that we go through within this contract, just ensuring that council has the ability to approve before implementation goes in.

So once the study is complete, that prior to implementation, council has to approve of what gets implemented.

Okay, I know we have a couple of speakers, folks who will join us with information on this item.

Please cue up.

Mr.

Chair, we have Tyrone Clifton online.

All right, Tyrone Clifton.

Good afternoon, Council, Mr.

Chair.

Um Tyrone Clifton, director, Detroit Building Authority.

Um forgive me, I just got on.

Did I miss the question?

Uh I'm sure she will restate it.

And I'm I see we've been joined also by Director Schneider.

Please introduce yourself for the record.

Julie Schneider, director of the housing and revitalization department.

Thank you so much.

Member Johnson, would you mind restating?

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Just want to clarify for the general public um what we have in this particular contract.

I know we've had prior conversations about the process, ensuring that once the study has been completed, that the remaining funds that are reserved for implementation, the implementation aspect of the contract has to be approved prior to moving forward, has to be approved specifically by city council prior to moving forward.

Through the chair, correct.

Um so what you have before you is 20 million dollars of funding through the CDBG uh DR program to get the Jefferson Chalmers neighborhood out of the floodplain.

Um so this is a significant undertaking, obviously.

We've broken this up into three different projects with project one, uh hiring a person who could be funded through the CDBGR to be the project manager for this project.

That'll go through the DBA.

Obviously, we'll do a task employee that we're gonna look for for certain skill sets to stay on top of this project.

And then project two is the study.

Um, as previously discussed with CM Johnson and her office.

Uh, we're looking at different options to get that area out of the floodplain.

Uh we have some ideas, but not none of those ideas have been proven.

Um, so a very detailed study with some physical um items being done on site at the various locations to see what is viable for the balance of the dollars that are open to to mitigate or to facilitate getting the Jefferson Chalmers area out of the floodplain.

And as previously discussed, um, we would bring that solution back to city council um for approval.

Um, obviously, we're looking at uh a significant amount of stakeholder engagement along the way along the journey, I should say, um, of keeping that uh area inform.

Obviously, working with uh CM Johnson's office, um Jefferson East, uh, and uh different agencies who are familiar and are plugged into the Jefferson Chalmers neighborhood through the chair, yes, ma'am.

Um, so I just want to ask one question.

If you can break down the cost allocated for the three phases, um out of the the 20 million dollars, and I also want to be clear that what is provided to council is the details of what has come out of the study, not necessarily just the suggestion on what we're going to implement with the remaining funds through the chair.

Um Sam Johnson, you're absolutely right.

So um we want to present a holistic approach of all the things that we looked at, and here is the solution, or here is a solution that we think that we can accommodate for the funding that's available to do this work.

Um, we want to tell the story of how we got to the solution looking at all the factors in the Jefferson Chalmers area.

Um the phases are broke down monetarily as follows.

Project one is the project manager.

We're looking for a million-dollar budget over a six-year period for that position.

Project two is the study itself.

That study would involve many different agencies and engagement with entities that would get us through what we could and could not do.

That's looking at land surveys.

That's looking at uh altar surveys that's looking at working with the U.S.

Army Corps of Engineers, working with Eagle.

Um, so that's going to be a significant portion.

That's a 2.5 million dollars for project two over six years.

This is also what's known as soft costs.

This is not construction costs, but all the due diligence necessary, the engineering, the civil engineering, um, the GO, uh, everything that we have to look at.

Any environmental concerns that could come up to with a solution would have to come out of this project too.

And project three would be the balance of the funds that are available for the physical implementation of whatever is approved to get us out of the flood plan.

All right, thank you.

And um, again, I'm not sure that I heard this, but once the study has been complete, I am asking for all of that information to be provided to council as a decision is made on how to move forward.

Um, I do recognize the costs associated with anything that gets moved forward, but just want to be sure that council has all of the information as we all work together to identify the solution that gets implemented.

Um I do also just want to ask uh request that as community meetings are held, that my office is included in all community meetings.

I know sometimes we'll say that we had a meeting with the Dons, um, and I have no idea about a meeting.

So just want to request that every meeting that takes place includes myself, uh, and I'll be sure to invite my team as needed.

The chair, um, absolutely.

We will make sure that the district four is included in all of these communications and all these stakeholder engagement meetings.

And to the chair, if I could uh just want to be uh provide the clarity on project three, which would be uh which um Mr.

Clifton described, but within the contract itself or within the agreement itself, it states within it that the authority, meaning the Detroit Building Authority, um, shall not come and commence any activities in under project three until the city has provided approval and that that such and then it further states that that such such that written approval shall be in the form of an amendment to this agreement, and it must be authorized by a resolution of the Detroit City Council um specifying the preferred preferred flooding prevention and floodplain mitigation project elements to be implemented.

So within the contract itself, it is very clear that in order to move ahead with project three that approval must be granted um by the city of Detroit, and that approval must take the form of a resolution adopted by city council.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

All right, colleagues.

Uh seeing no additional questions on the line item 11.4.

Is there a motion?

Mr.

Chair move to send line item 11.4 to formal with a recommendation to approve.

There's a motion to send line item 11.4 to formal with a recommendation to approve.

See no objections, and action shall be taken.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Moving on to line item 11.5, status of planning and development department and property sale at 22 501 Finco Avenue.

Uh is there a motion to discuss, please?

So move.

Thank you so much.

Uh, yes, uh Luella Pazuti, I heard you loud and clear, we've been working on this building, and to your uh point.

Um we have been uh not the greatest stewards of this particular site.

So we had to pull it off the demo list uh as we saw that there was intra interest in this property, and thankfully we uh did receive just that uh interest, uh, but wanted to make sure that we had some type of agreement in place to ensure that while it was in the hands of the city, and we didn't do the best job at maintaining it that it doesn't land in the hands of someone else who does the same thing.

Trong uh Mr.

Trump please introduce yourself to the for the record and then talk a bit about this resolution that's been for us yes to the chair this is John Trong the housing and revitalization department the real estate division um what is being walked on today um is an amendment to the resolution that was presented uh in the prior week for the sale of uh the previous car wash to the adjacent business owner Mr.

Anthony Pope who owns uh Brightmore Family Grill LLC um per our conversation last week and post PD session uh we've gotten Mr.

Pope to agree to uh a time two year timeline to either redevelop the site into uh the previous car wash use or uh demolish the building uh we have good faith that um Mr.

Pope is going to get this accomplished I know that he's already hired an architect to start uh the car wash work as well as um got an estimates uh from the previous uh company that actually serviced the the car wash when it was previously privately owned and operating thank you so much and uh shout out to Brightmore family grill as well uh colleagues can we get a motion to um move to new business the walk on item uh this amended letter for the brightmore uh car wash we just discussed so move Mr.

Chair thank you so much there's a motion to uh send to new business uh in the committee uh line uh this uh walk on seeing no objections that action shall be taken um this is now the amended agreement that is before us now colleagues is there a motion to approve or further discussion on this amended uh resolution that allows for the purchase of the car wash no move to send a formal with a recommendation to approve mr chair thank you so much as amended there's a motion to send line item 11.5 again this is the amended version in front of us that we walked on today motion to send the amended line item 11.5 to formal with the recommendation to approve seeing no objections that action shall be taken thank you line item 11.6 status of planning and development department uh property sale by development agreement corktown properties uh preserve on ash three colleagues if we can uh actually take line items 11.6 and 11.7 together please so move uh move to discuss so move thank you so much uh checking to find out and this is just from my uh understanding I know that there was a it looked like a pretty steep discount on these particular parcels can you talk to us about how we came to the amount per parcel for uh the such a large number of uh of land that we have in front of us uh through the chair this again this is John Trong the housing revitalization department um as it relates to the initial pricing uh in 2020 the city council approved uh the greater project and universe for uh preserve on ash one through three uh we are presenting two and three today one has uh was previously approved la uh in 2023 uh under construction and nearly closing um uh dating back to 2020 uh as part of the choice neighborhoods initiative grant application where we received 40 million dollars to uh from HUD to support uh all phases projects um we penciled out the project at that time with the sales price of 225 thousand dollars that was also our cash contribution and match as part of the application project for that um that deal was approved which permitted us in 2020 to close uh in various phases again uh preserve on ash one uh was approved closed and obviously under construction uh before you today is two and three and so we are honoring the original deal uh dating back to 2020 okay colleagues any additional questions comments concerns on these particular items seeing none is there a motion move to send them to formal with the recommendation to approve Mr.

Chair there's a motion to send line items 11.6 and 11.7 to formal with a recommendation to approve seeing no objections that action shall be taken thank you um we have a walk on here uh contract this is an extension for time only for for foreclosure prevention for canvassing services um amendment number two and this is again time only uh but we're running out of time uh and it would the original contract went through December 31st of 2025 again knocking on the door uh this extension will take us through June 30th 2026 again the service is to provide uh tax foreclosure prevention canving services and I've seen them in action colleagues there a motion to walk this contract on to to uh committee for a vote so I'm over there's a motion to walk on the contract that I just mentioned uh on to the committee for a vote seeing no objections that action shall be taken uh

Uh this extension will take us through June 30th, 2026.

Again, the service is to provide uh tax foreclosure prevention canvassing services, and I've seen them in action.

Colleagues, is there a motion to walk this contract on to uh committee for a vote?

So I'm over.

There's a motion to walk on the contract that I just mentioned uh on to the committee for a vote.

Seeing no objections that action shall be taken.

Uh colleagues, any additional questions, comments, concerns.

See none, is there a motion on thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Uh move to send this to formal with the recommendation to approve.

There's a motion to send the walk on to formal with a recommendation to approve, and for the record, that is contract number 6005146-a one.

Again, a motion to send the formal with a recommendation to approve.

Seeing no objections, that action shall be taken.

All right, and that takes us to the end of our agenda.

Colleagues member reports.

Member Vice Chair.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Just want to remind the public that tomorrow is our last retiree task force meeting of the year, Friday, November the 7th, from 11 a.m.

to 1230 p.m.

This is also a hybrid meeting, so you can join us in person in the Irma Henderson Auditorium on the 13th floor here in KMAC or via Zoom.

And again, our last retiree task force meeting is taking place tomorrow, November 7th from 11 a.m.

to 12 30 p.m.

Please come and get uh some valuable information, some key updates uh of what has been happening regarding our retirees uh and some of the progress that we have made in the task force.

Uh again, this is a task force that I co-chair with council member waters.

We both hope to see you there.

Uh also want to bring up that our 30th policy session, which is going to be our last policy session uh in District 7.

We've had 30 of them this year.

Uh, we're inviting you to join us Monday, November 17th from 6 p.m.

to 7 30 p.m.

at the Edison Library located at 1-840 Joy Road.

Again, that's 1-840 Joy Row as we celebrate again our 30th policy session.

We'll have some giveaways, some refreshments, and just reflect on our collective progress and share some updates with you as well.

So we're hoping that you join us for our 30th policy session again, taking place Monday, November 17th from 6 to 7 30 p.m.

at the Edison Library.

Finally, uh, Mr.

Chair, I know we all have been pushing this out here uh for our Detroit homeowners.

Please take advantage of the Hope program.

It can help reduce your taxes up by 100%, depending on your income.

And the deadline to apply is tomorrow, Friday, November 7th.

Again, that's tomorrow, Friday, November 7th.

Uh, and you can even apply for your 2024 uh if you missed last year.

Uh but you can go and head to www.detroitmi.gov slash hope or call 313-244 or uh 244-0274, 313-244-0274 for assistance.

That concludes my member report.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, Member Vice Chair, Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I just wanted to share because I neglected to yesterday during IOS.

Um there was a question relative to where people could go to get food assistance.

If you go to the city's website, DetroitMI.gov, whether on your computer or on your phone, on the home page, you will see food locations.

You can click on food locations, you can identify the district that you're in, and you will be provided with a list of organizations, facilities that are providing food to our residents.

Um so just wanted to share that again, Detroit Mi.gov and on the home page, click on food locations.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you, Member Johnson.

Uh very uh important uh report there.

The other thing that you can do is type in your address and it'll give you a uh proximity uh or the closest uh food pantry uh in proximity.

The other thing I found out, and hope hopefully IT is listening.

Um the one challenge that some people had is that when you hover over the name, nothing happens, but there is a arrow in front of the name of the entity.

You actually have to click on that arrow, which is not the most convenient uh and is not how most websites work.

Usually when you click on the words, uh it it then allows you to move forward, but want to have a uh further conversation with IT just so we can hyperlink the whole word as opposed to the arrow in front of it, because I had a number of folks who we sent that information out to, and they had major difficulties and want to uh alleviate any other additional uh issues that they have.

I also want to you know congratulate all of uh colleagues who uh won their uh elections as well as the new colleagues who are coming on board, uh new members, as well as the uh new mayor elect.

Looking forward to working with all uh council members and the mayor elect in her new capacity as well uh as we address the uh pending challenges as well as opportunities in this upcoming term.

Uh with that being said, colleagues, uh there's no further business brought before this body.

Is there a motion to adjourn?

So move, Mr.

Chair.

See no objections, then action shall be taken.

This meeting is now adjourned.