Please call the roll.

Yes, good afternoon.

Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero.

Good afternoon.

Present.

Councilmember Scott Benson.

Councilmember Mary Waters.

Present.

Council Chair, we have quorum.

Thank you, Madam Clerk.

Given a quorum, we'll go right into the hearings for today.

We will turn it over to the administration first before we turn it over to LPD to share with the public a little bit more about what these hearings are and what they will entail.

I will turn it over to you, Mr.

Washington, for the administration.

Yes, good afternoon again, Madam Chair and Committee.

For owners of property here today, if City Council orders your building, your building to be demolished.

You have the opportunity to go to the Building Safety Environmental Engineering Department located in room 418 and request a deferral of the demolition order.

This means that you must do the following.

Provide proof of ownership or interest in the property.

Pay all required inspection fees, secure all openings on your building from trespass and the elements and remove all exterior debris, ban in vehicles, overgrowth, etc.

Pay or make arrangements regarding any delinquent city taxes.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Mr.

Washington.

LPD.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Just to add briefly to the important information just provided by the administration's representative about the nature and consequences of these hearings.

These are legally required administrative appellate hearings from previous hearings held by representatives of the Department of B seed.

And uh it's required to hold these hearings under state law in order to demolish dangerous buildings in the city.

So this is the opportunity for the committee to either give the thumbs up or the thumbs down to the to the department's recommendations and for the property owners to argue that if if they choose to do so that the property should not be demolished.

In order to provide due process and assist the committee in its deliberations, representatives of the department are here with the files so that photos and the facts can be known.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We'll now turn it over to those representatives from BC to introduce themselves.

BC.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

My name is Deli Portel.

I'm the assistant team at the uh property maintenance uh B seed.

Good afternoon.

Thank you both for joining us.

As has been mentioned, these are hearings to either support residents that want to keep their homes or support them with the demolition if they so choose so.

We are here with about 70 homes on our list today.

I try my very best to respect people's time and to go through these as uh efficiently as possible.

I ask that we try to keep each hearing to about five minutes each.

The questions are going to all be relatively the same.

We will ask you for the address that you are here to discuss.

We will ask whether or not you want to keep your property or if you're okay with demolition, and we will ask you any other questions that we seem necessary as we go through this process.

We'll go one by one with the folks that we have here in person first.

If you are online and you would like to have a hearing, please raise your hands now through the Zoom feature or if you are calling in.

I forget what do we press Ms.

Duncan to raise the hand online?

Or star six.

Um we are gonna figure out how to raise the hands real quick.

Um, but if you're on Zoom, you're able to raise your hands.

And there are some people that do call in as well.

So we'll figure out what's the zoom feature or what the cell phone feature is for you to raise your hands.

But folks that are here in person, if you're here for a hearing, please raise your hands.

Are you all here for four separate hearings or any of you guys together?

No.

So then what I will do is I will ask one by one for folks to come here.

Um our officers can help you find a seats and turn on your microphone.

And I'm gonna ask that we just that that we take folks up and that we have discussions one by one, and we'll go with folks as you take um your seats, madam chair.

Yes, and for online, it's star nine.

Star nine, thank you.

If you are calling in from a cell phone and you're not on the zoom, you can press star nine to raise your hand to have us add you to the queue.

And if you are on Zoom, please raise your hands now.

I'm going to begin on my your rights through.

Um, and we'll go down the the line here.

If you wouldn't mind just stating your name and letting us know which address you're here to discuss.

Good afternoon.

My name is Martha West, and I'm here concerning the uh house located at 200 200 Linux, L E N O X in Detroit, Michigan.

All right, thank you, Miss West.

This is the eighth property under the 11th block 200 Linux.

This property, ma'am, it is being ordered demolished.

So give us one second to let BC pull images and reports regarding the property and what needs to be done to no longer deem it dangerous.

Um while they pull up the information regarding your property, are you looking to keep or demolish the property?

I'm looking to keep my property, but my nephew claimed that he was doing all of this, and it was listed under a company's name.

But which is okay, but I would I haven't seen the property because I've been taking care of seven dead relatives.

And it was been hard on me to try to do what I needed to do, but I thought he was going to do all of that for me.

Got it, Miss West.

Give me one second to hear from B seed what needs to be done forward for us to clean the property.

That's fine.

Okay, Mr.

Patel, whenever you're ready.

Thank you, madam chair.

Uh on October 23rd, we inspected this property for this hearing.

We found the two-story, one family brick dwelling, open two element at the collapse post one story roof and basement window.

So we're exposed to the start at the second floor, rear next to your wall, yard not maintained, and no record for the registration pound or any repair permit pound.

That's what we are trying to discuss.

Um thank you, Mr.

Patel.

Miss West, are you the current owner of this property?

Now just because in the records here, the property owner is the Wayne County Treasurer's office.

It should have been my nephew.

Okay, but I didn't know that he had switched the name.

Now I bought the property.

The property was purchased by me.

Uh he decided to switch names.

So during that time, I was going through a lot with my seven relatives.

Yeah.

Then he calls me and states, well, you know you gotta come because there's a lot of da-da.

I say, Well, hold.

That's okay.

What one second, Miss Miss West.

I I don't need a full story today.

I just need to know where we are and how we can help you.

Thank you.

And right now, where we are is I think there are some title issues, and we can't move forward right now until this is fixed.

Okay.

This does not seem like a property to me that is going to fall tomorrow.

And I would ask that we bring this back.

And um, Miss West, I believe you're gonna have to do some work either with a lawyer or with some title supports.

I know that member Benson has been doing a lot of work uh of this work as well, but it sounds to me like the first thing that we have to figure out is who owns the property because that's gonna be who's responsible and who I can talk to about demolishing or not demolishing.

Right.

And since I want to give you time, I think the best thing that we can do right now is send us back to B seed um so that they're able to work with you or give you time to fix the title of this property.

In the immediate though, you mentioned that you purchased this or you paid or no.

The the uh property was purchased by me.

When was that?

That was back in oh uh 1901, 1902, way back.

I'm the owner.

I I purchased that.

I bought that.

Okay, yes.

So I'm gonna I'm gonna ask that we bring this back and that we get support from member waters, our at large member, and your council member because technically, ma'am, you are not the property owner based on our records, and we need to fix that first.

Member Waters.

Yeah, thank you.

Uh Miss West, yes, ma'am.

My office is going to assist you so we can get to the bottom of it.

Okay.

Thank you, ma'am.

Can you write down my number, please?

Yes, ma'am.

Um 313.

2363.

You got that.

313.

2363.

Yes, ma'am.

Thank you, ma'am.

So we'll talk with you.

Uh, if not today, tomorrow for sure, okay?

Okay.

All right.

All right.

I mean, call us because I don't have your number and you can't give it out on this platform.

But please call.

Let Jason know that I spoke with you.

Thank you.

All right.

Thank you.

And thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Member Waters, Vice Chair.

All right, thank you.

This looking at the taxpayer record.

Quality one services.

Is that your nephew?

That's quality one services.

That's your nephew's company.

Yes.

Okay.

And you did not give him permission to move the property into the company name.

No.

I haven't seen.

I've been so got it.

Yeah.

Okay.

I'm now trying to find out what is going on.

And that's that's it.

What is going on?

I love my house.

I bought that house.

And I'm interested in keeping my property.

Okay.

Okay.

Great.

Thank you.

Thank you, everyone.

Ms.

Member Waters will be very hopeful.

Yes.

Thank you.

So thank you, Miss West, for coming down.

We'll please before the end of today.

Give Member Waters' office a call so they can begin to work with you on this title issue, okay?

Okay.

All right.

Is there a motion to send it?

200 Linux.

Is there a motion to send us back to B seed?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, we will send 200 Linux back to B seed.

Thank you, Miss West, for coming in.

That is all that we have for you today, okay?

Just give Member Waters a call.

I'll see it here.

Okay, yes, and you're and you're free to go as well if you would like.

Discussion.

Vice Chair.

Yourself to the administration.

What were the needs for the property again?

Oh Mr.

Patel?

Yeah, I'm sorry.

What was the question?

What were the needs for the property?

What are the what needs to be uh done to bring the property to compliance?

It was overgrowth and openings to windows.

And plus the roof, though they have the one story part of the structure on the back.

Um that rope is gonna make sure she gets the the list of the items that need to be corrected here.

That's a good idea.

Miss West, I'm assuming did you receive a notification also letting you know what the issues were to the property?

No, ma'am.

I'll come down and and pull this from the basement.

Uh Mr.

Patel, while she's here, can she stop by and get all that information?

And get that information.

Where does she go?

The fourth floor room 418.

Fourth floor room 418.

You can let them know that you're leaving dangerous buildings now and that you would like to know what the list of repairs are needed for the property.

418.

Yes.

Yes.

May I go now?

Yes, ma'am.

And come back.

Whatever you'd like.

Thank you.

All right, no problem.

Um, there was a motion to send 200 Linux back to BC.

Hearing no objections, we will do so.

Moving us along, ma'am.

Uh, hello.

What is your name and which property are you here to discuss?

My name is Rachel Garcia.

I'm here to discuss 1549 military.

Discussion.

Uh Vice Chair, yes.

Before she leaves, I don't know if there's a need for her to come back.

I know she's gonna go downstairs.

I said wanted to come back for no reason.

So maybe someone can let her know that once she gets information, she may not need to come back, and maybe Member Waters staff can see her before or EPU.

EPU, please let her know if she doesn't need to come back.

Okay.

Oh no, to come to your to speak to your office is what Member Benson is suggesting, I think.

Is that what you're suggesting?

However, they want to do it.

Okay.

However, you want to do it, but I just don't want her to come back for no reason.

I think she wants to come back, is what she sounded like.

We'll see.

We'll let her know that she's that she's free to she's free to go after.

Okay, all right.

All right, thanks, team.

Um, Miss Garcia, which property were you here again for?

1549 military.

Military.

That is inside 1549 military.

This is the fourth property under the 13th block, ma'am.

This has been removed, so it's no longer on the demolition list.

It's not been removed.

What's been removed is the garage on the empty lot next to the member.

Ms.

Garcia, one second.

I'm so sorry.

Um, I was letting you know that the your address has been removed from demolition list.

Oh, it is no longer going to be.

No, no, ma'am.

Sorry.

I I could use better words for this kind of information.

Your your address has been withdrawn.

Okay.

So it is no longer on the demolition list.

Mr.

Patel, any notes you want to share regarding this property.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

No, we we had the weapon property resistance and is okay with this property.

Yeah, this clean.

Uh property was secure, so we have good.

Okay.

Well, thank you, Miss Garcia.

Do you have any questions for us?

No, I don't.

Okay, well, thank you for maintaining the property.

Keep it up.

Is there a motion to concur?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, we agree to withdraw.

1549 military from the demolition list.

Hope you have a good day.

Thank you.

Have a good day.

You as well.

What is your name and what property you're here to discuss?

My name is Leonard Bell.

Press it again.

My name is Leonard Bell.

Property is 3827 Burlingame.

Okay.

Yes.

This is the fifth property under the eighth block.

Mr.

Bell, this property is on the demolition list.

Yes.

We're gonna let uh Mr.

Patel let us know why.

Yes.

Are you looking to keep or demolish?

Please, I'd like to keep it because I've been doing a lot of work uh to this building.

Okay.

Um I actually took off the second floor and put a new second floor on.

Um and if I could I I'll be as quickly as I can.

Uh the the uh a tree launched her through tree fell on the house.

And I had to remove the tree first.

A lot of work.

But um the owner, she was she was by herself.

She was a grandmother, she had uh grandchildren.

She wanted help.

And I the best I could do was to buy it from her.

I didn't know how else to help her, you know, except I saw she was in terrible distress.

Okay, and uh it was there for for several years, and the rain was coming inside the actually inside the house.

So I had to remove the tree, and I had to do a lot of uh structural um uh corrections uh because this was a monster tree that fell and and did damage to the house.

Yes.

Well then let's hear from BC what else might might need to be done.

And it sounds like if you are doing work, we will g continue to allow you the time, but let's hear from BC first.

Thank you, Mr.

Bell.

Mr.

Patel.

Uh thank you, madam chair.

Uh on October 21st, for this city council hearing, we inspected this property and found one and a half story of one family frame dwelling we can open to elements at the upper floor at all site.

A second floor addition is being constructed without the required permits.

Uh property not maintained press, debris on property, overgrowth, uh no permit on record.

Uh that's uh recommend for uh hearing.

Okay.

Uh we we also had communicate with Mr.

Bell uh regarding this property.

I believe that Mr.

Bell just started process applying the permit, but the permit had not complete yet.

Uh so we would like to have the proper permits for this this repair being done.

Going on this property.

So understood, Mr.

Patel, and Mr.

Bell, I saw you nodding your head.

It sounds like you're moving forward with permitting, which is good, and and you're doing repair work.

Yes.

Um, I would only suggest as you're doing the repair work every week.

We are supposed to get bulk garbage picking up to support residents as we're making these repairs.

So before your bulk comes out, I would wait until that day before, take everything out.

So you're not being ticketed, so it's not being seen as a blighted abandoned building.

And then um because that's what they're telling us, right?

There's debris, there's garbage, there's overgrowth.

So as you're making your repairs, try to make sure that it's also cleaned up afterwards.

Yes, ma'am.

And do you're permitting?

I have no issues with with giving you more time.

Are there any questions or concerns um for this for this property?

If not, vice chair.

Mr.

Yourself to the applicant, do you have the financial ability to make these repairs and bring the house to code?

Uh I've been using my pension, sir.

Um I've been squeezing with my pension.

Sorry, but uh that's why it's taken me so long.

But uh I would have been further ahead, sir.

But they broke into the house four times.

Uh I I try to I try to feed the people there that are substance abusers, uh, but it didn't work out that way.

They actually broke in several times.

So I've been I've been seeing I had setbacks several times, and that's why I I'm not as far ahead as I should be.

Uh financially, uh it is a bit challenging, sir.

Um any directions you can point me in.

Uh I'll be there.

Patel thank you thank you madam uh long the properties uh making repair under the the current permits if the permits is current and property secure and safe uh yeah we would work with the property on the most top cases so you you have a willing enforcement body regulatory body is willing to work with you yes they need you to work with them as well thank you sir thank you so much yes sir yes thank you member Benson is there a motion to send Burlington back to BC hearing no objection we will send this back to B seed Mr.

Bell that gives you time to continue your work good luck continue to be in communication with BC then you should be all set okay BC is downstairs B seat is downstairs fourth floor B seat is also right in front of you right now it's also who you're communicating with for these repairs thank you so much of course thank you have a good one Mr.

Bell sir what's your name and which property you're here to discuss yeah my name is Mike Seema I'm a consultant I'm here regarding 24501 West McNichol uh channel uh group LLC Tim Henry and we are we did clean up this uh property uh very well I have some picture to show you to the right here and also we are pulling the permits for um a mechanic uh I'm sorry for electrical and plumbing but uh the owners having a little rough with the uh money but I'm trying to help them to do the cleaned up and to go ahead and get it operated hopefully by the spring all right thank you Mr.

Cena and just to confirm 24501 McNichols yes West McNichol West McNichols did I pronounce your last name correctly yes thank you okay West McNichols this is being ordered demolished but to your point um we might be able to give you some more time based on the amount of work that you've done already uh Mr.

Patel we will give you the floor to let us know what are the things that you would like to be addressed uh Mr.

Cena it sounds like you want to keep the property I'm gonna take that as a yes and then would you like to give that to counsel or to BC Ray would you mind um grabbing those handouts thank you make copies but there's that one passing oh okay no you can organize it don't thank you okay I can make that okay oh they're different different sides thank you um madam chair this property is uh is uh hand car was uh Mr.

Simma had provided some updated photo this morning uh why would we know also uh our main concern is the drainage the drainage of this property I think we believe that it's getting flooded so we believe that the drain need to be cleaned out uh also uh the this property being left for the dumping for why so we like to have the property on a tech responsibility make sure that they maintain property properly on the main terrap and the West Mechnica okay thank you Mr Patel appreciate that and um Mr Cena does your clients still intend to make this a car wash yes are you gonna address the flooding yes we as a matter of fact if you see some pictures we remove so much of the one trailer of all that dirt from the we cleaned it up already as showing the pictures of how much we cleaned it up and we are hiring uh plumbing company they're gonna come clean the sewer and then we're gonna take care of the permits okay sounds good any questions colleagues for this or do we feel comfortable sending this back to BC M Vice Chair uh to yourself to Mr.

And we are hiring uh plumbing company, they're gonna come clean the sewer, and then we're gonna take care of the permits.

Okay, sounds good.

Any questions, colleagues, for this, or do we feel comfortable sending this back to BC?

Motion.

Vice Chair?

Uh to yourself to Mr.

Patel.

Any other issues beyond the uh the drainage for the site?

It seems secure.

Yeah, this is the open uh hand car was uh type uh structure.

Uh so there is no uh the doors or windows or anything involved in this this type of structure.

Um the drainage is main thing and dumping, they have to get control over the dumping on that side.

Okay, thank you.

All right, thank you, Vice Chair.

There was a motion to send this back to BC.

Are there any objections?

Hearing nine, two, four, five, zero, one West McNichols will be sent back to BC.

Um, thank you, Mr.

Cena.

Anything else?

Do you have any questions for us or anything?

That's it, because we did clean it up on our this picture from last Friday.

All right.

Well, thank you.

Appreciate you being here.

Hope you have a good rest of your day.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

For folks that are online, if you are online to uh have a hearing with us, please raise your hands now.

If you are calling in from a phone, cell phone landline, press star nine to be able to raise your hands.

We have one more person here uh in person that would like to join us, and afterwards we will begin to call on people virtually.

If you wouldn't mind letting us know your name and which property you're here to discuss.

Um sorry, your microphone needs to be turned on like that.

Thank you, madam chair.

My name is Martel Bivings, and I'm here on behalf of 6523 West Warren, and this is a bifurcated uh presentation of myself as well as the owner who is uh online.

I spoke with one of the staff members and uh who made me aware that they access them to be able to speak with me.

Okay, and this is 6523 West Warren?

Yes.

Okay, this is the third property under the 15th block.

And who was your partner online?

Uh Mr.

Mohammed Ailee.

If we can make him into a panelist as well.

And while he joins us online, um Mr.

Patel, um, if you wouldn't mind letting us know what the issues are to this property, West Warren.

Mr.

Martel, why they p uh pull that up?

Are you guys looking to keep the property?

We are.

What are your plans for the property?

Uh Mr.

Ali is going to continue the rehab and uh offer it out as an opportunity for a rent ink for uh uh commercial property, so it'll be white box.

Okay, awesome through the chair.

Yes.

Uh and Mr.

Ali is online, he just has to unmute himself.

Okay, thank you.

Mr.

Ali, you have been made a panelist.

If you would like to join us, you would just have to unmute yourself.

Yes, I believe I'm I've joined.

Yes, listen, so awesome.

Thank you.

We can hear you.

Thank you for joining us.

Thank you.

Good to hear your thoughts for this property.

Would love to have more storefronts on West Warren as we're doing more developments on the in the neighborhood and on the block.

Um, Mr.

Patel, what needs to be addressed?

Thank you, madam chair.

Uh this property is the one-story brick commercial, we can open two elements at the front right window.

The yard is uh poorly maintained.

The front gate is locked, so we could not uh enter in uh yard area.

Uh that's what we are front of and no vacant property registers and pound.

So the opening in the unmaintained yard that you couldn't necessarily evaluate all of it because you couldn't go into the property.

Okay.

This is okay.

Understood.

Um so you're looking to keep have you been able to address the issues that have been identified so far?

We have addressed the issues that's been identified.

We clean the uh the the yard up and we put a board behind the window.

Okay.

And you're looking to white box.

What is the timeline to have it ready?

We feel like we can have this done in nine months.

Okay.

Understood.

Any questions, colleagues?

It seems like we have no questions.

Um is there a motion to send this back to B seed uh since the opening has been secured and the yard has been maintained.

Motion.

There's been a motion to send this back to B seed before I finish that motion.

Mr.

Patel, any notes?

Uh thank you, Madam Chair.

The property owner has to provide us the evidence saying that the this window has been closed up as well.

They have done the recon property registers.

Correct.

Um so if you wouldn't mind, we'll send this back to BC, but what you'll need to do is we're gonna pull up an email address.

Um this is for anyone listening.

If we give you more time um to work with B seed, they are going to ask that you send over proof of the work that you've been doing.

Um there is an email on screen now that you will use to send four pictures, um, one of each side of your property that shows the the changes made.

So for anyone listening online, now would be a good time to take a screenshot, jot this email down, and if we decide to send your property back to BC, you will need to continue to work with BC to address the issues, and once you have take pictures of all four sides and send it to B seed.

Most likely if your issues have been addressed in the immediate um and you satisfy BC's um questions or concerns, they will tell you um when your property has been removed from demolition list.

But you will need to continue to work with them until that happens.

Uh I saw you take down the email address.

Uh, do you have any other questions for us or concerns?

No, keep up the good work.

Thank you.

All right, thank you.

There was a motion to send this back to BC.

Hearing no objections, 6523 West Warren will be sent back to BC.

Thank you.

Have a good one.

All right.

We will now turn it over to the folks that we have on line.

How many hands do we have raised and who do we have first?

Madam Chair, the f we have 18 hands raised.

The first caller is Charles Edward Williams, followed by Chelsea Piner.

Charles, if you can hear us, you are going first.

Chelsea, you are on deck.

As I said, we have about 70 people on our list, 70 properties on our list.

We have 10 plus callers, and I want to respect your afternoon.

So we're going to call people once as the current hearing, and we'll have someone on deck to try to move us out rather swiftly.

So Charles, are you with us?

Yes.

Wonderful.

Which property are you calling us about?

6125 14th Street.

Um over the past 10 years, we've secured more than 700,000 in state and federal investment, which has allowed us to repair just a small portion of the roof and stabilize key areas of the building.

However, COVID era inflation significantly limited how far those dollars were originally planned to go.

So even so our congregation and supporters have raised additional funds to bring part of the building back into operable condition so we can continue serving our community.

Also want to note that we have a standing agreement on our water drainage fees that have significantly impaired us, and we are fully compliance with the water department.

Um and three years ago we began restoring our windows.

As you can see, some of those windows are out.

Um because we started restoring the windows.

We had a stop work order from the historic district commission.

We followed the process, received full approval, and we are now resuming our fundraising efforts to finish the remaining windows and doors in accordance with the historic preservation requirements.

We're working diligently to raising resources, complying with every requirement and doing everything we can to bring the historic building back to life.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you for the first time.

I appreciate that.

Thank you, Charles.

Uh so this is the first property under the eighth block, 6125 14th Street.

And Mr.

Patel, um, we just heard a history of work being done to this property.

How long have you been working with them?

And what are the issues that still need to be addressed?

Madam Chair, uh the we had inspected this property on October 22nd, and that time we found the two large uh two-story uh connected with the structure connected with the chart, uh brick building, we're kind of open to trespassing element, open at all side.

Uh building and ground are not maintained.

Uh on the back side.

Um we also had some communication with the pastor regarding this.

We would like to have some kind of timeline when this property gonna at least secure against the elements and trespass.

And also receive our record property registers and certificates.

Have you discussed having that plan with them yet?

Not yet.

Okay.

So if we send this back to you, can that plan happen?

It sounds like um, I know this isn't this isn't everyone's favorite course of action, but the nuisance abatement program for me creates that plan, holds people accountable.

We work together to make sure that we make the repairs if extensions are needed, we'll make an extension.

Um, but Mr.

Patella, I think you're right.

There's been a long history for this building, and we need a plan.

So if we send this back to you, um Charles and B seed, are we committed to make that plan together?

Uh ma'am, I'm always complete uh committed to uh a plan.

I do want to make it very clear to you though um that we are uh not in a position or uh to to take a sizable um loan out for this facility.

So most of our fundraising efforts are very, very, very grassroots.

We have uh uh uh been able to secure some funding from the federal government from the Obama Biden years, but in the uh future these present days, uh we're not really clear about uh what's still available for historic buildings and such.

So I I I don't have a problem with the plan.

I'm not saying I'll have a problem with the plan.

I'm just being very clear that it's it's very grassroots and it's it's very uh one one piece at a time for us.

I agree.

And that and that can be the plan.

And we can start small, quite frankly, in the immediates.

I think the plan is to secure the property with wood with planks, with the the least costs um possible, but the property needs to be secured, and by then take steps.

Do you fundraise for doors?

Do you fundraise for windows?

Do you fundraise for whatever the case may be?

Um, but I would feel comfortable.

B seed and council would feel comfortable knowing that there is a plan that's being worked on um so that you don't find yourself back here again um having to appeal a demolition.

You will be in communication with the administration to help me move you forward.

Um so if we can do that, I would rather do that.

And um there's an email now for B seed.

And it sounds like um do you have someone, Mr.

Patel?

Do you which inspector has been in communication with the pastor?

Because I think that's where the communication needs to continue to happen.

Uh thank you, madam chad.

Uh actually I have communicated with the pastor Williams regarding this property.

Um we'll send this back to you so that you're able to reach back out so that they can reach back out to you as well, Charles, if you wouldn't mind making sure the church knows um that this is the next step, okay?

Absolutely.

Okay, member waters.

Thank you.

And so good afternoon, Reverend Williams.

Very, very at any rate.

I I I know I know I understand all too well uh what your plans are for that for that building for for the community from the neighborhood, and certainly appreciate um what you uh trying to do both for the church and for the national action network as well.

So um I think if we could just get the the uh windows boarded and we might have to have a day well some of the uh skilled people who who comes to the meetings uh can help board up the windows, and then um we can work on a plan to um get the rest of the um uh for uh both B seed uh and council.

Yes, ma'am.

We we work intently to do it.

And you know, I want to just stay for the record though.

I think it is sometimes a challenge, because the challenge would be is well, do I spend you know $15,000 to get the windows bored up, or do I spend $15,000 to get three windows put in, right?

I mean this is uh the challenge, but I will I am committed to work with Mr.

Patel and BC at trying to make sure we can produce the most amount of results with the least amount of resources.

Thank you.

Completely understand.

Um I think that's why it'll be helpful to to work together so that folks know your intentions, how you're doing the work and and what's um what's to come next.

Uh so is there a motion to send 6125 14th Street back to B seed?

Motion Vice Chair.

Thank you.

And uh Pastor Williams, thank you for being here today.

Uh through the chair to Mr.

Battel, how long is this property?

We've been working on this property, the city.

Uh I can I can help with that.

It's been I've been there for 17 years, and the building was uh uh abandoned all 17 years that I've been there.

We were able to make a significant advancement pre-COVID with the grant of $500,000 from the federal um uh in t department of interior, and when COVID happened, uh of course that $500,000 went from a complete roof and windows to just a small section of the roof.

Okay, Mr.

Patel, thank you.

Thank you.

Uh so what in this uh uh inspection was in 2022 after that uh the August 1st 2025.

Uh the gang that came to over, and that's what this proceeding came to the play.

Okay.

And then Mr.

Williams, you said you've had ownership of this for 17 years?

I don't own the building, but the historic King Solomon Baptist Church has owned it since 1960 something.

Uh when I became the pastor of the congregation, they they they had all the building had already been shut down.

Uh there's 6100, which is across the street in 6125, and all of my effort has been in rehabilitating 6100, which is the facility that we are actively using.

Okay.

Okay.

And then looking at the taxpayer records as son of David Ministries, and there's an outstanding um tax obligation.

Are you all f aware of that?

We are for we are aware of that.

Uh that was a ongoing conversation that came about when the water drainage fees uh came into play.

And so now we have a tremendous because there's no water and there hasn't been any water in that building.

And so now there's a tremendous water drainage fee bill that we have um mitigated, and we have a negoti uh we have a uh plan of payment with the city of Detroit with the water department.

Okay, so the water department put your uh outstanding uh water bill or drainage fee onto the uh tax rolls.

That is correct.

Okay, and if you had a conversation with the Wayne County Treasurer about that.

That's my understanding, yes.

We have a Congress, we have an agreement and and everything going on with that.

Okay.

All right, and then I I didn't hear it.

You said you do have an anticipated timeline for the property to bring it back online or at least to make sure it's compliant.

We do not have a timeline.

Um we turn 100 years old next year.

Uh it's our goal to do everything we possibly can with uh the 6125 facility next year, whether that's bored up windows or whether that's actually put some windows in it.

Okay.

Hopefully, this new administration we can work with closely to provide some resources, and so we'll we'll be looking out for that too.

Okay.

Just as was stated earlier, I believe a timeline would be very helpful in this situation.

Absolutely.

I mean, it is a significant property, but it's also open and dangerous, and what we hate to see is somebody climb in and get hurt, just if we could just keep these young people coming from the suburbs to take pictures of the building out, we'd be in a we'd be in a great position, but we seem to they just seem to love abandoned buildings.

That part I appreciate.

I also appreciate wanting to make sure that local children who might find this an attractive nuisance don't climb in and get hurt.

So is there any timeline on about securing the property?

One year, two years.

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

So is there a plan, a timeline, one year, two years to uh bring the property into compliance?

I think that timeline it's uh go in the next two years uh in the next week if if I can get to check to get as much as I possibly can get done.

Okay.

I don't I don't I wouldn't want to just say anything to you, Councilman Benson.

You know, my word is important to me, but I do uh um I will definitely work intently to get some coverings in these windows, whether it's an actual window or whether it's a board window.

All right.

Okay, thank you, everyone.

So there's plans to continue to work on this, make a plan with B seed um and the church.

Is and there was a motion uh to send this back to BC.

Are there any objections?

Hearing none, 6125 14th Street will be sent back to BC.

Good luck, Rev.

Please do reach out to BC to make that plan and that you guys are able to work together, okay?

Absolutely, thank you.

All right, thank you.

Have a blessed day.

We will now hear from Chelsea, followed by Chelsea, followed by T Smith.

Chelsea, can you hear us?

T Smith, you will be up next.

Chelsea.

You would just have to unmute yourself and let us know which property you're calling us about.

Um I believe I'm unmuted.

Can you hear me?

Yes, we can hear you.

What's the property address?

5400 McDougal.

Oh, okay.

Um 540 McDougall.

This is the 10th property under the 12th block.

This is being ordered demolished.

We are going to turn it over to BC to let us know why.

But are you looking to keep or demolish the property?

We're looking to keep it.

Okay.

And while I they pull up the images and issues, uh, I'm assuming you know what the issues are to the property.

Um, I do, yes.

We have been working on it since we bought it um almost three years ago.

It was uh a lot of hoarding.

It was full to the ceiling full of stuff.

So we've got about 12 dumpsters out.

We did just put new new boards up on the windows um this weekend.

We cleared all the overgrowth.

I also want to add, I spoke with Mr.

Lucas McGrail today, and it seems to be a misunderstanding.

Um in the roof, because in this if there is actually a light well in the center of the two apartments upstairs, and they you know, he explains to me that from 15 miles away, it can often look as if the roof is collapsed.

Um, and that is actually not the case.

It is a it is a light well, and the windows that are inside of that are intact.

Okay, thank you.

Mr.

Patel, what other issues need to be addressed on this property?

Thank you, uh, Madam Chad.

Uh on October 24th, uh we had inspected this property for this year.

We found that two-story frame um dwelling open two elements at the side roof.

You are not maintained, no recon property registration pound, no repeat per mcpound.

Uh that's what we are uh turned up this committee.

Thank you, Mr.

Patel.

Chelsea, you mentioned you took care of the overgrowth.

You have 12 dumps out there, 12 dumpsters out there.

Can you take pictures of all four sides of the property and send those to B seed uh this week?

Um, I've actually already done that this morning.

Um and spoke with Mr.

McGrail from his in insights.

It appears to be we should be um completely in compliance at this point, especially clearing up the misunderstanding with the light well, and we are in the process of getting registered as the vacant property.

Um I'll be honest, this is my husband and I, we live across the street and we work super hard at this building.

I I didn't know that you needed to do that.

Um, so we have already paid the invoice that he had sent me.

We have already um taken care of that, brought the building into compliance as far as he mentioned being concerned, and um started the application process for that vacant property registration.

Wonderful.

Thank you for doing that work.

If that's the case, I feel fine bringing this back to B seed so that they can do what sounds like one final expensive uh inspection potentially to give you the clear.

Um, so if there are no other questions or concerns, there is a motion to send 5400 McDougall back to BC.

Hearing no objections, we will do so.

Thank you, Chelsea, for doing that work.

Good luck with the remaining uh work that you have to do.

Do you have any questions for us?

Um, I do.

He he has suggested that I ask for a withdrawal.

Is it would that is that what this is, or is this an adjournment?

I just want to make sure I I understand the language and yeah, thanks for bringing that up.

If that's the suggestion for BC, uh, Mr.

Patel, would you like to confirm that with your team first, or would you like us to withdraw it today?

No, we like to compel that.

All right, so we're gonna let BC talks a month in South Chelsea, but it sounds like you are very close to having this removed from the demolition list, okay?

It's not going to be demolished today, it's still just going to be verified on their end.

I think there's a communication that has to happen internally.

Um, but once they confirm and verify, they'll let you know.

Okay.

And they so they will reach out to me.

Yes.

So I I do just want to add, I missed my last court hearing.

Um, I received in the mail the summons on the 13th, and the hearing was on the 12th.

So I'm very nervous about missing any kind of correspondence.

Is there anything on my part I can do to just fully stay on top of this?

Perhaps reach reach out to BC myself in the coming week or weeks.

Yeah, I would suggest so.

Did you write down the email that we put on on the screen earlier?

Um, I did.

That was the same one I used this morning to send my photos.

Um, and I did also have all the dumpster receipts.

I had we've never been laid on taxes, anything like that.

I have a whole folder.

I I can gladly share.

Okay.

Um, I again want to make sure I don't miss any correspondence or any next steps that that I may need to take.

Yeah, um, I would suggest maybe at the top of the week um or so uh just checking in with them on the status of their conversations and they can let you know um when you are in the clear.

And that would be through that same email address that you had shared.

Using that same email address, seeing if anybody else from the city BC department reaches out to you outside of that address, I would include them as well.

It might be a specific inspector from B seed, um, but the general B seed email is the one that you can use.

Okay, and I apologize.

I do have one more question.

Um we've two quotes on some root on um some roof repair that we do in fact need in some main choice.

Is it recommended that we hold off on that and let this completely come to a closure?

Uh we've just been hesitant to do any big work um until this was you know fully taken care of.

I would move forward and give B seed even more the reason to get your property off this list.

Okay, fantastic.

Thank you for your time.

Of course, thank you for doing that work.

I do believe I finished the motion to send this back to BC, Madam Clerk.

Did I?

Thank you.

We did.

I believe so.

Okay.

There was a motion.

There were no this was has this has been sent back to BC.

I think I did.

Okay, thank you.

So 2450 West.

Oh, nope.

540 McDougall is going to be sent.

McDougal, thank you.

This will be sent back to BC.

Thank you, everyone.

We will now hear from T Smith followed by T Smith followed by Tara Grady.

Followed by T era, but first we'll hear from T Smith.

Can you hear us?

Hi, yes, I can hear you.

Uh, wonderful.

Which property are you calling us about?

It's 2208 Littisdale.

This is the first property under the 12th block.

Uh T Smith, this has been withdrawn.

So it is no longer on the dangerous buildings list for demolition.

Do you have any questions for us?

Um, yeah, do I need to, as we are definitely working to rehab this property?

Do I need to send anything in to BC'd or anything?

No, ma'am.

You can just continue to do your work moving forward, pull permits if needed.

If you're if your property is going to stay vacant, they recommend that you register it as a vacant property.

Uh, but if not, I would just continue to make the repairs that you're doing.

Thank you so much.

Of course, thank you.

Is there a motion to concur?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, we agree to withdraw 2208 Liddisdale from the demolition list.

T era you are up next.

We're gonna hear next from following Tierra.

Kimberly Young is would be at following Tierra.

Kimberly Young, you are on deck.

Tierra, you're next.

Can you hear us?

Yes, I can hear you.

Can you hear me?

Yes, we can.

Which property are you calling us about?

One two zero three one Stople Street.

One two zero three one Stopel.

This is the sixth property under the 14th block.

It is being ordered demolished here.

We're gonna hear from B seed as to why.

But do you plan on keeping or demolishing?

I plan on keeping.

Okay.

And I'll turn it over to BC now to share with us what needs to be done to the property.

While they're pulling up that information, Tira, do you I'm assuming you know the issues to the property?

Have you made any uh changes since you've received notice that it was in the dangerous buildings list?

Yes, ma'am.

When I called in and spoke with someone, they said that I needed to um secure and cover any holes, um, including windows in the roof that has been completed.

And um, when I first got on the call, and you said we could use that email, the BC demo email.

I did go ahead and send the pictures showing that I have a tarp on top of the roof and um showing all four sides of the home, so there are no openings to get in the home.

Okay, all right.

Good to know, Mr.

Patel.

Okay, thank you, madam chad.

Uh, we had inspected this property on the October 24th.

Uh we pound the two-story brick dwelling.

We're gonna open two elements at the roof that uh the pyrot happened.

Uh roof had the whole the brick on the print wall wall are collapsing, and this is considered a dangerous building, and that's what we are print of this committee.

Um, Tierra, I see the tarp.

Um is the roof not only caving in, but also seems like it's pushing up.

So that was uh it was almost like an A right there where that corner is, but because of the fire, no one can get on that kind of corner without harming themselves.

Um, because of and so that's why I submitted this picture showing from the inside that it is in fact covered.

Um, I'm working with my insurance company.

I do plan on getting the repairs done to my home so that I can either move back in or provide housing for veterans.

Um, I'm just working at the fire just happened in August.

I've been working with my insurance company.

It's just been a really slow process with them, but I do have insurance.

I'm just trying to work out everything with them.

Okay, and to B seed, I also just wonder where what our internal policies are for fires.

Um, if I had gone through a fire, I would need time.

Um and then I didn't even I missed one hearing um, I believe in September, but again, I had just had the fire in August.

I was trying to get myself and my son situated in temporary housing, so I hadn't been back over to the property.

Um, so again, that is why I missed the first hearing that I had.

Okay, heard all right.

Thank you, Tara.

I I'm okay with sending this back.

It sounds like you just need time and that you do have plans to address the problems.

Um, colleagues, do you have any questions or concerns?

If not, motion there's a motion to send this back to B seed.

Are there any objections?

Hearing none, we will be sending one two zero three one stople back to B seed.

Mr.

Patel, um hearing the the fire, also just knowing what they're working on.

Um we should talk about the the buildings that are coming before us and what we can do to make sure that as a city, yes, we're taking care of our neighborhoods, but then we're also thinking about residents and what they're going through.

Um, so Tira, um wishing you well and good luck um as you move forward with these repairs, okay.

Thank you.

I do have one other question.

I'm sorry.

All good.

The property directly next to me um is one two zero three nine stople.

And I had called into the city a few times in the summer because it's open, people are able to go in there, animals are going in.

Someone was, you know, I can hear people in there at night when I was in my property.

So I'm wondering if that would be on the I would love for that property to be demo.

I would even be willing to purchase the property to demo it so I can own the land along with mine.

But I just, you know, I just wanted to be safe for myself and my son because again, we were we were there, and which I would I would rather buy the property, knock it down and just have an open lot there next to us than to have people living over there.

No need, Tira.

It is on the demolition list.

Okay, thank you so much.

I appreciate you.

If the property owner does call in and if they have a plan, we have to hear it.

But if you're telling us it's that bad and dangerous, that does help us move forward with demolition.

Um, if it's if it's becoming a danger to the neighborhood, uh, but we shall see if they call in, okay?

Okay, thank you so much.

No problem.

There was a motion to send this back to BC.

Hearing no objections, one two zero three one stoop will be sent back to B seed.

Thank you, Tierra.

Have a good rest of your day.

Thank you, you as well.

We will now hear from Kimberly and on deck.

We have on deck, we have James White.

James White, you are on deck, but we're gonna hear from Kimberly Kimberly.

Can you hear us?

Yes, I can.

What is your address you're calling about?

11706 Long Acre.

Okay.

125 12.

Oh, yep.

One seven zero six long anchor.

This is the fifth property under the 12th block.

Kimberly, are you this is being ordered demolished?

So we're gonna hear from B seed as to why, but are you looking to keep or demolish the property?

Keep the property.

Okay.

B seed.

If you wouldn't mind letting us know what the issues are that need to be addressed to this property.

Thank you, madam chair.

Uh on October 23rd.

Uh we inspected this property for this yarding.

We found one story plane dwelling open to trespass.

Front window and rear rear hole in the wall.

Uh pile damaged property yard not maintained.

We recommend for demolished.

Thank you.

So we're looking at overgrowth and openings.

And then this issue in the back here.

Okay.

Um, Kimberly, have you been able to address any of these issues already?

Yes.

Okay.

I'd like to share photos if I could.

Not at this moment, ma'am.

It does prolong our hearings, but were you able to jot down the pictures?

Uh excuse me, jot down the email address from BC?

Yes.

So if you wouldn't mind, what we'll do is unless Mr.

Patel, were you?

Do you have a comment?

Um soon they're gonna pull the permit to repair this fire damage property.

Okay, so Kimberly, if you have the email address from BC, um, it's best that you email the pictures over to them.

We can send this property back.

Uh so you won't have to worry about us moving forward today with demolition.

But email those pictures to B seed, and as you just heard Mr.

Patel say they would also like um, oh, it looks like they received the yeah, these are pictures from the uh we've completed so you can see it's been properly boarded.

We uh removed uh tons of trash, overgrowth, etc.

Yeah.

So Mr.

Patel, I understand your need for them to pull the permits, but that seems pretty secure.

Can we just remove it today from a demolition list?

Or are there other things that you need them to address?

Madam Tierra, I cannot verify that back wall on this one.

So you need to inspect it.

Okay, understood.

Okay, so Kimberly, I tried, but they do need to inspect.

Um so what we'll do is we'll send this back to BC.

Um, thank you, member waters hearing no objections.

11706 long acre will be sent back to BC for them to verify, and then they will let you know if there's any issues moving forward or if they'll remove it from the day from the from the list, okay?

Okay, do I still upload photos to the website you shared?

Nope.

If you already did that, they have received it, they're gonna review and and get back to you afterwards, okay?

Okay, thanks so much.

All right, thank you.

So that was it for long acre 11706.

We will now hear from James White's followed by Jared Ingram, followed by Jared.

James, can you hear us?

Yes.

Which property are you calling us about?

4276 Larchmont and the weather light.

4276 Larchmont.

This is the seventh property under the 11th block.

This is being ordered demolished.

Um we will turn it over to BC to let us know why.

But Mr.

White, are you looking to keep a demo?

Yes.

Which one?

You said keep my the demo.

Keep the property, keep the property, not demo.

Right.

Okay.

It was a fire there.

Uh squatters got in it.

Um about a year and a half ago.

Um, we maintained, we we uh paid to get the roof done, we clean the yard up, and we have it on the market, but if you look at our pictures, you will see how the yard is clean.

Okay, so we are looking at images now of the fire damage and some of the property being boarded up, other than you taking care of the overgrowth in the yard.

Have you been able to address any of the openings or the fire damage?

We sent pictures to McGrilla M C G R A I L L U.

Okay.

We sent the after pictures.

The yard is completely cleared.

The holes in the roof was replaced.

The windows was boarded.

Okay.

And you said the fire was a year ago, ma'am.

A year and a half ago.

Okay.

So then what has been done from then until now?

Well, I've been trying to sell the property.

Okay.

It's been on the market since then as is.

Okay, understood.

Mr.

Patel.

Thank you.

Uh Madam Teddy.

Yes.

Uh I did receive the text saying that we uh they did send uh email, but again, uh the this fire was year and a half ago.

Uh regardless, property on the retire to sell the property, but the blood still stay in our neighborhood.

Uh I think I would recommend that property on the start repairing the property.

Okay.

Yeah, ma'am.

Um Mr.

Whites and I believe Mrs.

White?

Yes.

So I, as you heard, um, repairs need to be done to the home now.

It can no longer stand as is.

If it's been a year and a half on the markets and nothing's been done, I do not see it selling any time soon.

And unfortunately, in the state that it looks in right now, I myself, um, if I don't know that there are plans to repair it, would not feel comfortable moving forward with sending this back to BC only because of the state that it's in.

Would you be able to begin to make repairs, or do you believe that it might be best to um move forward with demolition?

Have a couple of people who wants to buy the property as is um I had a big water bill from um some rentals and from during the virus, so I would really try trying to sell the property just to be able to pay the big water bill off with it because I can't afford it.

I understand.

Okay.

And we have done some work inside the home.

It's not like we haven't done anything.

And everything they ask of us, we have done.

Yeah.

The issue is that it's abandoned, it sounds like and squatters go in, it gets exposed, it gets opened, and then another unfortunate fire might happen.

Um trying to think of what else we can do.

Do you have a timeline of when you're of when your interested buyers are looking to buy?

Because that might be able to give us some leverage here if you think you can sell in the next three or six months.

Um six months.

And we'll go and check on the property more.

All right, ma'am.

Because inside is not that bad.

It just um, like I said, the upstairs caught on fire.

It's really a nice home.

It just needs the right people.

We're retired, we just don't have the money to put in it, or I wouldn't never let it sit that long.

Yeah, no, I understand.

And what I'm trying to do is avoid you having the lien for demolition or you having to stay responsible for the property that you're not able to maintain.

But it looks like the the fastest solution here is to sell it as quickly as possible.

Um, not sure what my colleagues' thoughts are, but I think we sent it back to BC for a sale.

And um to to the lights, if we're not able to sell anytime soon, I think the city will move forward with demolishing demon a dangerous building.

Motion to return to BC.

There's been a motion to send uh uh before the motion, uh vice chair.

So to Mr.

Patel.

What needs to happen to bring this property to the point that you can see the photos, the exterior fire.

Uh can you put up the photo?

I know I could sell it in within six months.

I have a few options now to sell it.

Okay.

We're gonna um let Mr.

Patel answer a few questions to member Benson before we turn it over to you, or we'll turn it over to you if we have any other questions.

But um the question right now is to BC, what needs to be addressed in your property in the immediate uh thank you.

Um chair and uh CM Benson.

Uh this property had the weaken and open two elements at the upper front software and ports first yeah, power damage to the dwelling, uh yard not maintained with the vegetation at the rear yard.

Okay, and we have sent new pictures.

One second, I'm so sorry.

Okay, I I I understand um the advocacy, but my vice chair is a good idea.

Okay, I'm sorry.

It's okay, no worries.

Vice chair.

So, Miss White, how long will it take you to make the improvements that need to be this bring it to compliance?

And so just sealing up, removing maintaining I'm sorry, can hear you good?

So, just what would it how long will it take you to bring the property into compliance?

And as the sealing off the windows, and then Mr.

Patel, what else was there?

I see you can see the evidence of the fire outside, so that siding or it has to paint out, uh repair the roof, uh if it's any hole, uh, any software, which one has the hole in there?

Uh you can see from the front part the the front soft also has damaged.

So this exterior uh has to bring it up on this property.

So, Mrs.

White, to bring to bring the property into compliance, and you can take as long as you want to sell the property, it just needs to be sealed, and the items identified by BC to bring the property to compliance.

However long it takes you to sell the property is not really an issue for this body, not really, it's not an issue for this body.

The issue for this body is just to make sure that it's in compliance and no longer open and dangerous.

Oh, it takes you to do that.

Sir, we already did that.

We paid money to get it, boiled it up on the roof.

Also, the yard is completely cleaned out.

We sent pictures of all that um things we did to close up the holes in the roof and the yard in the windows that was out.

Do we have these property these photos?

We sent them to McGrail you at Detroit, Michigan GO.

That's what the lady told me to send them to.

What and then when did you send those over?

Okay.

Uh about a week and a half ago.

Okay.

And then I believe.

Are those the photos?

That's not the that's not the property.

We're looking at large amounts.

Um, I believe Mr.

Patel, you mentioned that they there were pictures received.

Those were the picture is saved.

These here.

Yes.

The photos that we received don't show the property being brought into compliance.

Ms.

White, so the photos you sent us don't show the property coming into compliance.

It's still the property still needs to come into compliance.

So, how long will it take you to do that?

So, what needs to be done?

What else need to be done?

Because we cleaned the yard up like they asked.

We we boarded up the roof.

Um, what else is it?

I'm sorry.

Okay, Mr.

Patel could better identify.

So yeah, you can see those your microphone, Mr.

Patel.

Thank you, madam chair.

Uh you can see on the photos.

Uh the this windows are open.

You can see the fire repair right here, this all side, fire repair right here, the sidings, this all area, uh, the software underneath this roof is damaged over here.

This all part where the fire came out uh outside exterior of the property on the both side.

Also, if you go on a bottom ports, the first port uh you can see uh the this socket is damaged over here.

So the by looking at the property, you can see the obviously properties the fire damaged, and that's the blight in our uh neighborhood.

So that one on the right hand side.

I'm so sorry, Miss Waite.

I'm sorry.

I will need to hand you over the mic in order for us to be able to have one person and so that we can hear everyone.

So I'll turn it over to you in a second.

Uh, but I'm sorry.

It's okay.

Uh Vice Chair.

So do yourself to Mr.

Patel.

So then we're looking for sounds like some significant changes, i.e.

siding being brought being taken off, sofits being sealed.

Additional, we might is that correct?

Uh you and the siding removed.

That's fire damage.

The part I'm assigning you can see that is hanging.

So I mean, that's uh yeah, it is uh that deciding us to treat some way with that you take it off, paint it over uh something, but uh yeah, we can if they're willing to work, uh we can uh we can you know work we work with them to you know because six months to sell the property or that kind of little longer sitting there uh if uh property these are occupied homes adjacent to this property and I I believe so without the right yeah so the property to the right is occupied someone lives in it.

One on the left is vacant.

And so the property to the right has to deal with this on a daily basis, so I I am less flexible on something like this.

Um and there is no is there is there a is this under contract for sale now?

Yes, you have a contract for sale, yes.

Can you show evidence of that?

Um I can get the person to um call you or I don't have the contract with me.

Um my brother, he was selling it for us.

Okay.

Um but if you like, I can email it to you.

Sure.

I I'd rather go to Mr.

Patel.

This is really he's a regular that he's a regulating entity here.

Rather, it needs to go to him, not my office.

That and that the rear yard has been cleaned as well.

Yes, everything is clean if you completely none of that is there anymore.

But we haven't received those photos, Mr.

Patel.

Okay, so we have evidence.

He should have them.

No, you sent it to a different email address, uh, Miss White.

You you mentioned a specific inspector, the email um that we shared on screen.

Were you able to drop that down?

Yes, yes.

Okay, so what we'll do now to move us along because we have about 10 other people online is to send this back to BC.

There was a motion to do so.

Um, Mr.

and Miss White's share with B seed any proof of contract if one can be written out and and shared with with B seed.

Um, as Vice Chair is suggesting, there's still more work to be done to no longer deem the property dangerous in the meantime.

If any work that can be done, that would be highly appreciated.

The email on the screen is the one that you want to send the pictures to, um, besides the inspector that you already emailed.

I would also email this one right here, pictures of all four sides with proof of uh the sale that you're trying to make.

Um, and just to be um so unfortunately frank here.

Um a sale needs to happen or repairs need to be made because it really does look like the city could just move forward and demolish the property given the fire damage.

Um so I share that just to add a little bit of urgency.

Um, and also um what could happen next, but definitely want to make sure that you guys can sell if possible, um, or or do what you can with the property.

Um, but with that, there was a motion.

Um Mr.

and Mr.

Mr.

and Mrs.

White's the following steps.

Is that clear for you all?

Are you able to to to make those things happen?

Yes.

Okay, there is an objection to sending this back to BC.

If the clerk can please note hearing no other objections, we will send 4276 large mounts back to B seed.

Mr.

and Miss White, good luck.

Please do continue to work with uh B seed and try to sell this property as quickly as possible.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you both.

Have a blessed day and good luck.

We are now gonna turn it over to Jared, followed by Sean, followed by Sean.

Jared.

Jared, if you can hear us, you are a panelist.

Yes, can you hear me?

We can hear you now.

Which property are you calling us about?

I am calling about 2000 row street.

Yep.

This is 2000 zero row.

And this has been withdrawn.

Uh so Jared, this property is no longer being deemed dangerous by B seed.

It's no longer on the demolition list.

Do you have any questions for us?

Uh no, thank you.

Okay, is there a motion to concur?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, we agreed to withdraw.

Okay.

Two, is that two million?

20,000.

2000 row from a demolition list.

Thank you, Jared, for your work.

I will now turn it over to Sean, followed by Sotero Lopez.

Sotero Lopez, you are on deck.

But first, Sean, can you hear us?

Sean, you have been made a panelist.

Should we just have to unmute yourself?

Sean, I'm sorry, but we still can't hear you.

Okay, I'm here.

I'm here.

Hello.

Awesome.

Hello.

Which property are you calling us about?

It's one for 321 Ardmore Street.

I don't see that.

Edmore.

A R D M O R E.

That's what I think too.

I don't see it.

Mr.

Patel, is this on our list for today?

No.

Um thank you, Madam Jad.

No, I I cannot say the Argmore stuff.

All right.

So, Sean, I don't believe that you have a hearing with us today.

Does do you have the notice in front of you?

Um, no, I was here last month.

Um I was asked to send in some information, and uh I sent in the information, but I I um spoke with the inspector earlier, and he he also said that uh he also wanted rear pictures.

Um so I need to send those as well.

But um, we're still in the we're in the process of selling the house.

So um sending in this month, we'll probably won't own it anymore.

Okay.

Well, it sounds like we don't have a need for you to be here in this hearing.

Um, and this is the email.

Um, if they're asking you to send pictures over that I would use.

Um, if you've haven't taken a picture of it yet or written it down, please do so.

Um, but it sounds like uh there's no business for you here in this committee.

You can just send those pictures over to B seed and continue to work with them, okay?

All right, sounds great.

Thank you.

All right, good luck on the sale.

We are now gonna turn it over to Lopez.

Last name Lopez.

Yes, followed by Bianca Rios, followed by Bianca.

Sotero, Sotero, please correct me if I'm pronouncing your name wrong.

You are up next.

Last name Lopez.

You have been made a panelist.

You just have to unmute yourself.

They appear to be unmuted, madam chair.

We just can't hear you.

Can't hear them.

Oh no.

Okay.

So there seems to be a technical issue because we see you as our panelists.

We see that you are unmuted, but we cannot hear you.

On are you on any headphones?

Um, on a Bluetooth.

Usually, if we're connected to any of those, um sometimes things happen, and we're not able to hear you on our end.

But unfortunately, we still can't hear you.

And what we have to do in these instances is add you to the bottom of the queue.

So we'll come back to you.

I know that is not ideal, but we still cannot hear you.

Um, we still have five plus people online.

So, what I'm gonna ask member waters.

Can I give up my phone number and call my office if you can hear me he or she?

Sure, please do.

Oh, wait, hold on.

Did I hear something?

Testing.

Testing, yes.

We can hear you.

Oh, okay, member waters.

All right.

Um, if you wouldn't mind, what was your first name again?

Sotero.

Sotero, what's what the prop, what's the property that you're calling us about?

1483 Montclair.

Okay.

1483 Montclair.

This is the seventh property under the 13th block.

This is being ordered demolished.

We're gonna turn it over to BC to let us know why.

Uh Busotero, what are the what are your plans for the property?

Are you looking to keep or demolish?

Keep.

And then I'm assuming you know the issues that were identified for your property.

Yes.

Have you been able to address those?

Yes.

The oh, the last thing that is being addressed was the roof.

Um it's been secured, all boarded up, cleaned up, all the debris.

It's just a roof.

We were uh putting a roof on last week, and then uh Inspector David Sperry the city came by and is like stop everything, there's no permits.

So we had a permit pool last week, and so we resumed the work.

And so the top half is is of the roof is is covered at least with wood right now, and it should be finished by the end of this week.

So that was the final thing that we need to do was the roof.

Okay.

Understood.

BC, do we have images and any other notes, Mr.

Patel, that you want to share uh while that image is being pulled up for this property?

Things that need to still be addressed.

Uh thank you, madam chair.

We did inspect this property on October 22nd.

Uh for this year, I think we found the two-story single family brick dwelling.

Uh open two to SPS at the front door, elements at the roof, second floor window and corner window, yard not maintained.

No VPO or no open permit was found that time.

Oh, thank you, Mr.

Patel.

And then Mr.

Lopez, thank you for the work that you've started to do on the property.

Were you able to take a picture or jot down the email address that was shared earlier for B seed?

Oh, you went back to we can't hear you now.

If you unmuted yourself, you would just have to unmute yourself again.

Through the chair, he's still unmuted, but we just aren't able to hear him.

Okay.

So if you can hear us, we cannot hear you.

Looking at these images, if you have already addressed the overgrowth, secure the openings and you're working on the roof.

That feels enough for me to send this back to B seed for you to continue to make the repairs.

Just trying to buy you some time, Mr.

Lopez, if you're able to join us again.

Mr.

Patel, if we send this back to you to allow him more time, would you be okay with that?

We will work with uh yeah, we will work with this property on that if they will have to complete the debt permit processing.

Okay, which they did pull, so they've started it.

I want to move us along.

If there are no concerns, is there a motion to send this back to BCD?

Motion.

Okay.

Oh, I'm on the phone right now.

Okay.

So Mr.

Lopez, we are sending this back to BC to allow you more time to make the repairs.

Um, if you did you take down the email address from B seed.

Yeah.

Okay.

So if you wouldn't mind taking pictures of all four sides, emailing that over.

Um sharing any uh proof of permits being pulled, and as long as you continue to make the repairs and secure the home, we should be okay.

Okay.

Okay, all right, perfect though.

Thank you.

All right, thank you.

Is there a motion to send 1483 Montclair back to B seed?

Motion Hearing no objections, you will send this property back to B seed.

Thank you, and good luck, sir.

Thank you.

Happy day.

We will now turn it over to Bianca, followed by Bianca, followed by Jennifer Oliver, and Bianca's address is 13517 Hayden.

13517.

Bianca, can you hear us?

102.

Yes, this is the second property under the tenth block.

Bianca, if you can hear us, we are now discussing the property of interest for you.

13517 Hayden.

Yes.

Oh, wonderful.

Uh, thank you for joining us.

This property is on the demolition list, so we're gonna turn it over to BC to let us know what issues need to be addressed.

Uh, are you looking to keep or demolish the property?

Well, I want to keep the property, but I know that it does have to be demolished.

Um, I got some kids playing and burned down the house.

I just purchased it not so long ago.

So um what I want to do, um, I own a construction company myself.

So I want to keep the foundation for me to be able to rebuild and pull out permits.

I was gonna start working on it, but um, I gave birth and I haven't been able to get back on it because like my baby is a few months uh a few weeks old.

So um once I feel like a hundred percent ready, then I'm I gave myself a month or two to be able to recuperate from birth and get back on it and be able to um start the process of pulling permits to be able to demolish myself, um, be able to uh start rebuilding the property.

Okay.

Uh when did the fire happen?

I think it happened like around August.

I got notified, I think like the ends of September.

Um that it happened.

All right.

Do you live in the city or outside the city?

I live in in Detroit.

Okay.

And then when did you when did you buy the property?

I bought it like around the beginning, not the like around beginnings of the year, actually.

Okay.

So recently bought recently went through a fire.

You yourself would like to demolish and and rebuild on the property.

Um Mr.

Patel, I don't know how quickly we demolish if we concur, because she would like to also concur.

Um because I was I was fixing the house already, and um, it was completely covered.

There, everything was like yes, you can see there's wood covering everything.

Yeah, but I guess they found a way in and they destroyed everything, the progress that I had on it.

Okay, understood.

Um, so Mr.

Patel, can she?

Um, I guess before I turn it over to you, Mr.

Patel.

Bianca, I understand you need time.

Also, congratulations on the new baby.

But would you be able to pull a permit at least in the immediate or something?

Because what's gonna happen is we can agree to demolish and you can do it, but this is gonna be a race between you and the city, and you want to win the race.

And the easiest way to do so is letting them know that you're in the race and that you have what you need.

Can you begin to pull permits or share contracts of who you're gonna work with just to let them know that you are moving forward with demolition?

Yeah, I can do that.

I can actually start working on it right away.

Um, I live like I live in downtown, so I'm like literally five minutes away from where I can pull the permits.

Okay.

Um and I can take care of that and then go from there, see what um what I can compile on everything.

Okay, Mr.

Patel, does that work?

That works.

So we concur then today to demolish.

Uh Bianca, you move forward and run and win this race.

Um, and uh demolish yourself so that you don't have a lien to give you the opportunity to to build on the property, okay?

Perfect.

Sounds great.

Okay, is there a motion to concur with demolishing one three five one seven Hayden?

Demolition.

Hearing no objections, we agree that the property will be demolished.

Bianca, good luck, and again, congratulations.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

We will now hear from Jennifer followed by Jermaine Gabriel, followed by Jermaine.

Jennifer, can you hear us?

I can and um I hope you can hear me now.

We can.

What is the property you're calling us about?

Uh one six zero seven seven liberal one six zero seven seven liberal is being withdrawn.

So, Jennifer, uh, you've done the work to no longer deem this property dangerous.

It's now it's no longer on the demolition list.

Do you have any questions for us?

No, thank you so much.

Is there a motion to concur?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, we agree to withdraw one six zero seven seven liberal.

Have a great day, Jennifer.

You too.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Jermaine, you're up next, followed by Nico.

Followed by Miko or Nico.

Nico Nico.

Thank you.

Uh Jermaine, can you hear us?

Yes.

Which property are you calling us about?

1810 East Graham Boulevard.

East.

Okay.

Nine five.

Nine five.

Oh, yes, one eight one zero East Grand Boulevard is also being withdrawn, Jermaine.

So thank you for doing the work to no longer deem this property dangerous.

It's going to be removed.

There's a motion to concur.

Are there any objections?

Hearing none, we agree to withdraw one eight one zero East Grand Boulevard from the demolition list.

Jermaine, do you have any questions for us?

No, that's it.

All right, thank you.

Have a blessed day.

You too.

Appreciate it.

Nico, followed by I uh followed by Aya.

Nico, can you hear us?

Yes, I can.

Can you guys hear me?

Yes, we can.

Which property are you calling us about?

I'm here for 5610 West Ford Street.

Another withdrawal.

5610 is being withdrawn.

We love to see it.

So thank you, Nico.

For doing the work.

Thank you.

Um, do you have any questions for us?

Um, I was just curious because I never received any kind of um for the dangerous buildings hearing or anything like that.

And I was just wondering what the problem even was there, if that's possible to discuss real quick, because it was it's been boarded and secured, and I was just wondering what the issue even was.

Um, just from your statement, probably the openings that you boarded up and secured.

Um, so it is working.

I guess what other questions did you not see any openings or issues?

No, I'm saying we we didn't we didn't board it in this time frame, it's been boarded.

That's why I was wondering why this was even necessary, but I guess it doesn't matter because it's withdrawn, so it's really okay.

Okay.

Uh I I do understand where you're coming from though.

Um but if you're okay with being okay from now, we can we can be okay.

And and I would suggest if we do have questions uh to reach out to BC for more clarification.

Okay, sounds good.

Thank you.

Okay, thank you.

Uh did we motion motion?

We motion to withdraw 5610 West Ford Street hearing no objections.

We will withdraw.

Thank you, Nico.

Aya, we're gonna hear from you next, followed by Zoom user.

Followed by Zoom user.

Aya, can you hear us?

Yes.

Wonderful.

Which property are you calling us about?

11401 pressed.

11401 pressed.

We are sticking to our withdrawn streak here.

Aya, thank you for addressing the issues to the property.

It's no longer on the dangerous buildings list.

Do you have any questions for us?

No, thank you.

All right, is there a motion to concur?

Motion hearing no objections.

We agree to withdraw 11401 press.

Thank you, Aya.

Have a blessed day.

We will now hear from Zoom user followed by caller number ending 603.

603 caller, you are next, followed by excuse me.

We're gonna hear from Zoom user first.

Zoom user, are you with us?

I am.

Which property are you calling us about?

15136 Hayden H-E-Y-D-E-N.

Okay.

15136 Hayden.

This is the third property under the 10th block.

Ma'am, what is your name?

Rhonda Johnson, J-O-H-N-S-O-N.

Rhonda, this property is on the demolition list.

Uh we are gonna turn it over to BC to let us know why.

But would you like to keep the property or demolish?

I would like to keep it.

Okay, and then assuming that you know the issues to the property.

Yes, um, they are all complete.

I went by this morning um just to take pictures because I forgot to take pictures.

I did send them over to the email that was provided.

Um, and so I know it was overgrown, so that is what I believe to be what the problem was, but everything is all taken care of.

Okay, we will turn it over to BC to let us know if there are any other issues.

Uh, but thank you for addressing the overgrowth uh to the property.

Mr.

Patel.

Yeah, that's the pictures this morning.

Thank you, madam chair.

Uh on October 24th, uh, we inspected this property for this year.

We found uh uh single family one and half started big dwelling.

We're gonna open two element exterior wall, a deteriorated front exterior wall and port.

Uh barricade over the dam as openings.

What is to listen up roofing material?

No permit on record pound.

Uh permissive was overgrowth and not maintain.

All right, so not seeing the overgrowth necessarily in these pictures.

I do see some openings.

And Rhonda, you mentioned that you sent over pictures already as well.

Yeah, those are the ones that he's displaying.

And would you like us to send this back for you to do another inspection, Mr.

Patel, or from this?

What else would you like her to address?

The openings that we're seeing and the godbiz is still there.

Okay.

Yeah, I need to clean it.

She needed a board.

Okay.

Yeah, the print wall need to be boarded or secured properly.

That opening right there.

Yes.

Okay.

So Rhonda, I feel comfortable sending this back to BC for you to address those issues.

Thank you for addressing what seems to be the majority of the issues.

Are you looking to sell, move in, rent this property?

Well, my uh my daughter just graduated college, so my hope was for her to you know provide it for her, just generational.

Okay.

Well, congrats to you and your daughter.

Thank you.

And uh we can send this back for you both to continue to do the work to this property.

Um, and and I would just suggest, like with everybody else, the sooner we can occupy the properties, the sooner we can really keep them safe, um, and our neighborhoods as well.

So good luck um in making those further repairs.

It sounds like you have the uh the email already, just please do send pictures once you've secured that opening and taking care of uh the rest of the of the debris on the ground, okay?

Oh, thank you so much.

Of course, thank you.

Is there a motion?

Oh, sorry, ma'am.

What was that?

Oh, okay.

Okay.

So is there a motion to send one five one three six Hayden back to BC?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, we will send this property back to B seed.

Good luck, Rhonda, and again, congrats to you and your daughter.

Thank you so much.

We will now hear from caller 603, followed by caller number ending 829.

829.

First, we'll hear from caller 603.

Can you hear us?

You would have to press.

Oh, wonderful.

Which property are you calling us about?

Uh 100 archdale.

One one zero zero two zero arcdale.

This is the second property under the eighth block.

This property is on the demolition list.

We're gonna turn it over to B seed to pull images and notes as to what needs to be done.

Um, but I'm assuming.

Oh, we are looking at images now, and I'll turn it over to Mr.

Patel to share what needs to be addressed.

That is the address.

Oh, and the address for folks, it is 100200 Archdale.

This is the second property under the eighth block.

Okay, gotcha.

Thank you.

Thank you, madam chair.

Uh on October 23rd, we inspected this property for this year, and we found the one and a half story frame dwelling where can open to trespassing front door, yard not maintained, um, and hole on a roof.

Uh, and that's what we are here.

Uh thank you.

So, overgrowth and hole on the roof.

Um, sir, would you be able to address these issues in the anytime soon in the next few weeks?

Uh yes.

Yeah, uh as of today, uh I'll just clean up the whole front yard front yard and other uh borders windows and uh and um oh I got some more important turns on the hole in the roof.

Okay, understood.

Are you able to tarp that in the immediate at least?

Um so that you can address the overgrowth and secure that opening.

Yes, okay.

So if we send this back to B seed, uh sir, you might have a few weeks, or I would just as quickly as possible, send images to them, letting them see the changes that you've made um by taking care of the overgrowth and securing uh the hole in the roof.

Can you do that?

Yes.

Uh what's the wheel side?

It's an email address.

Yes.

We're gonna put that on the screen for you.

If you're are you able to see a screen?

Um if you're calling in.

No, no worries.

If you're if you're ready, I can give you the email address.

Okay, I'm ready.

The email reads B seed, let me just go letter by letter.

Um, the email reads B as in boy, S as in Sam.

D as in Detroit.

E as in Elephant.

M as in Michigan.

O as an octopus.

At Detroit M I dot gov as in vehicle.

Okay.

Would you mind repeating that to me just to make sure that you got it?

Okay.

B as M.

B as M boy.

S as a C E elephant.

D as in Detroit.

D as a D trait.

Mm-hmm.

E as an elephant.

As in Michigan.

Oh as in October.

D as a Detroit as an ice cream.

G-O-V.

It's going to read Detroit M I.gov and it's spelled Detroit.

D E T R O I T M I for Michigan at G-O-V for government.

Instead of it being dot com, it's dot government email.

So altogether it reads B B said demo at Detroit MI.gov.

All right.

So if you have that.

So we're gonna give this.

I cut you off, sir.

I'm sorry.

Yeah.

Sorry about it.

I have it, but after I uh get the room uh pair still, then that's when I'll send the photos.

Yes, and you want to I got the yard the yard and the windows board is uh if you have that done already, I would send those pictures too and notes that you're working on tarping the roof, and then as soon as that's done, send that over as well because B seed's going to continue to inspect and continue to note the issues until it's done.

So I would tell them that you know and that you're addressing them.

Okay, thank you.

Okay, of course.

Um is are there any other questions for Archdale?

Hearing none, is there a motion to send this back to B seed?

Motion hearing no objection, we will send this property back to B seed.

Uh thank you, sir.

Hope you have a good day.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

We will now hear from caller ending in 829.

Can you hear us?

We're gonna follow you by caller number ending 043.

043.

You're our on deck, but we will now hear from caller ending in 829.

Caller ending in 829.

Can you hear us?

I can hear you.

I was having trouble unmuting.

Can you hear me?

Yes, we can.

No worries.

Which property are you calling us about?

19395 more nine.

1939.

136.

Yeah.

This is the sixth property under the 13th block.

Ma'am, this property is being ordered demolished.

So we're gonna let BC let us know what the issues are to address.

Uh, but are you looking to keep or demolish the property?

I would just like to note that I am not the property owner.

The property owner is my mother who's also on the line.

Um, so I'm just speaking for her.

So if you want her to say her voice, and then I can talk for her.

If she if she wants to introduce herself, happy to happy to meet mom.

Mommy.

That'll just go to break for, I guess.

Did you hear her?

No.

We did not, but that's okay.

Um, no worries.

I'm I'm glad you guys are both together.

Thank you for letting us know that you're with your mom, who's the property owner.

Do you know whether or not she wants to keep or demolish the property?

She's actually um in the process of she wants to sell the property.

Um we actually have two interested buyers on the property, but I didn't know uh what was wrong with the property to answer their question.

So if I would happy to know what the blight issues are, so I can let the new property owners know.

If that's something they'll be willing to deal with.

Okay, understood.

And then usually it can go a few different ways.

Either you can address it or the new property owner can address it, but I I do appreciate the question of what has to be done.

So Mr.

Patel Thank you, madam chair.

Uh on October 22nd uh for this year and we inspected this property, pound the two-story plane, one family dwelling weaken and open two elements at the rear window and roof.

Yard not maintained, overgrowth of vegetables and then debris at the uh dwelling not maintained.

And that's what we are here in front of this committee.

Okay, thank you, Mr.

Patel.

Um, ma'am, so the issues are and it does not seem like you can see um any of the images.

So looking at the property, it is very overgrown uh with trees and shrubbery, and there are some openings uh by the roof and the windows.

These are things that I believe if you're able to um address it in the immediate.

Um, one might help you sell better and faster since you've addressed those issues.

Um, and two, would uh give you more time and the city um would would allow you the opportunity um to make that sell without having um without continuing to let you know what the issues are because you've addressed them.

Um are you able to address the the issues in the immediate um what are your what are your thoughts?

I have to find out from her um financially she's unable to maintain the property, she's uh senior.

Um she obtained the property from my brother who's a vet who's not mentally sound mind, so we had to go through the court process to get the papers on her name just so she can make decisions concerning the property.

She got that done.

So now is in the process of trying to sell the property because it she can't maintain it.

Understood.

So if that's the case, it sounds like there are going to be some some title issues here for a while.

And if you would like to make sure that the property gets removed from the dangerous buildings list, you need to either from the family or um together or or gather resources in the immediates.

The yard waste needs to be addressed, and so do the the windows.

They don't have to be replaced, but they do have to be boarded up.

Can that be something?

Okay, so the windows need to be boarded or the windows, board the windows, or the windows, secure any openings while you're out there.

If you see any openings, I would tarp it, secure it, and then take care of the overgrowth.

That is what needs to be done in the immediate.

Once that is done, I do believe the city uh will no longer tickets or or uh claim this this property as dangerous, and that'll allow you the time and and really the the freedom to be able to move forward um without the fear of this property being demolished.

Okay, thank you.

Are those things that you're able to do in the next uh few weeks or so?

Um at least the the weather still is not awful.

I know you might need some time to think this through, but is that something that you think you can you you can accomplish?

Yes.

Okay.

Um there is an email that I shared earlier.

Were you able to jot that down?

No, I'll I'll write it down now.

Okay, so what you're gonna do is once you figure out how you're gonna take care of the overgrowth and board up the windows and insecure any openings.

You're going to e you're gonna take pictures of all four sides of your property showing that it's been um that the yard waste has been maintained and that the openings have been secured.

You'll take pictures of all four sides and email those to this email that I'm gonna read to you now.

Are you ready?

Uh-huh.

It's spelled B as in boy, S as in Sam, E as an elephant, D as in Detroit, D as in Detroit, E as an M.

M as in Michigan, O as in Olympian at Detroit M I.gov, and that's spelled D-E-T-R-O-I-T M-I dot G-O-V.

Okay.

So that reads.

E is in Edward.

M is in Mary.

Oh, as in October.

Detroit at Michigan.gov.

At Detroit M.

M I, not Michigan, but M I.

Yes.

Yes.

At Detroit Mi.gov.

Correct.

Okay.

All right.

Are there any questions or other concerns or anything for this property?

Don't see anything from BC does either.

Is there a motion to send uh we're on Monarch, correct?

Yes.

Send this back to BC.

Motion.

Hearing no objections, we agree to send one nine three nine five monarch back to BC.

Good luck to you both, okay.

All right, thank you.

Thank you.

I will now move us along to our next caller ending in 043, followed by call in user one.

By calling caller user one, but first caller ending in 043.

Can you hear us?

Hello, can you hear me?

Yes, we can.

Which property are you calling us about?

I'm calling about 3723 Grizel, spelled G-R-E-U-S-E-L.

3723.

Yes.

This is the ninth property under the ninth block.

This is on the demolition list.

We will turn it over to BC to let us know what the concerns are to this property.

But are you looking to keep or demolish?

Um looking to keep my family's in the process of uh selling the home.

They have a uh purchase agreement to uh sign very soon.

Okay, and then we're gonna the images are being pulled up now.

Uh there seems to be uh efforts to board up.

Thank you.

Um Mr.

Patel, what other issues or what issues need to be addressed in the immediate um in order for this to be in compliance thank you, madam chat.

Uh on October 30th, uh we inspect this property for the C I we found the one and a half story plane.

Uh single family dwelling with an open at the elements with an open elements at the roof, yard not maintain, uh dwelling not maintained, uh hole in the roof, so of the southwest are of the roof has collapsed.

Uh recommend for the demolition.

Thank you.

Um to our caller, what is your name?

My name is Eddie Mora.

Eddie.

Thank you, Eddie.

When are you looking to sell the property?

Um, I noted uh my sister took care of the um initial real estate agents, and uh she was going to uh to the uh agents uh facility in Allen Park to sign uh purchase agreements.

Now the uh problem I had recently was I did upload some pictures and my phone uh took a nosedive, so I had I just got this other phone anyhow.

We did all the uh cleanups around everything had been secured previously, and the one thing I couldn't get at was the uh roof to cover the roof up, but I'll see if I can get somebody to get up there and cover that.

Okay, yes.

If you have already addressed the overgrowth and securing other openings, the roof is is what needs to be tarped.

Um, so if you can do that um in the meantime while the sale goes uh goes through.

Um sounds like that'll be one of the last things.

Um you got the the email address correct.

Um I did jot down um I'm not sure if I have it correctly, but I got this down D is in boy, S is in Sam, E is in Edward, D is in David, is that always in Ocean?

Oh, so you you got a some of it.

Let me so it's I'll read it out to you.

Uh B as in Ben, S as in Sam, E as in Eddie, D as in David, D as in Detroit, E as an elephant, M as in Mom, O as an octopus, at Detroit, M I.gov.

At Detroit M I dot gov.

Okay.

I got it now.

Okay.

D S E G D E Detroit Michigan.gov.

Correct.

Okay.

So what you'll do is um take pictures of all four sides.

Once you also tarp the roof, um, or if you already have one portion of the issues addressed, I would start there, and then after you've tarped the roof, send that over as well.

Um to to it to at least get this part of of the process complete.

Okay.

And I know there's some uh fees involved too.

I've been trying to save up uh get us some fun together and pay the uh service fees, and then there's some other properties as well that uh I just haven't been able to uh keep track of them because of some loss of uh family life recently.

I haven't been able to get you know back and forth over there, and then transportation has been a problem as well.

So I've got to address these other problems.

Understood, sir.

No, understood, and um thank you for addressing what you can in the immediate, and hopefully the sale goes well for you so that you're able to relieve yourself of some responsibility.

Um, and hopefully you're able to uh to gain some resources from the cell.

Um hearing no other anything else, Mr.

Patel from this property.

Uh thank you, um, madam chair.

Uh yeah, if this roof, as you can see, they separating so if the cell did not go through, then the current property owner has to take some some step to uh rebuild that root area.

Okay.

Um were you able to hear that, Eddie?

I heard it, but I I really wasn't able to understand what sure what he's saying.

So he was saying that if you can't make the cell, you have to replace the roof because the roof is exposed and opens and will continue to expose and open.

So it sounds like you really need to make sure that you're able to make a cell if you don't have the resources to replace the roof, um, because it is exposing uh the rest of the house.

Okay, I got it.

Okay, I understand.

Okay, is there a motion hearing no other questions or concerns?

Is there a motion to send 3723 Gresseau back to BC motion hearing no objections?

We will send this back.

Uh Mr.

Mora, good luck, and hope you have a good rest of your day.

Thank you.

Same to you as well, and everyone there.

Thank you, ma'am.

Thank you.

We will now turn it over to caller user one, followed by that's the last hand raised, madam chair.

All right, thank you, Ms.

Duncan, caller user one.

Can you hear us?

And for anyone else that might still be tuned in.

If you are here for a hearing, please raise your hand now if you've been too shy to do so up until now.

Please raise your hand now because once we've gone through our final callers, I will go through the rest of these properties rather quickly.

Caller user one.

Can you hear us?

Caller user one.

You have been made a panelist.

You would just have to unmute yourself, and I believe to unmute it's star six or star eight.

Nine.

Star nine to unmute yourself.

Caller user one.

I think because you are our last caller.

I can't put you to the bottom of the queue.

Miss Duncan, are there any other hands raised since no?

Okay.

Okay, thank you, Member Waters.

So caller user one, since we're not able to hear you.

What we're gonna do is member waters is gonna share her office number with you.

Please give them a call.

Um, share the address that you have, and we will communicate as quickly as we can on the back end.

Um, but once you do that, I recommend that you hang up and you call back and you try to raise your hand again, and we'll try to we'll try to communicate with you.

Um, but right now we cannot hear you, and you are the last one.

I have to move us along.

So, member waters, all right.

Uh member waters 313 628 2363.

If you were not able to connect today, please call my office and leave the address that you were calling about again.

The numbers 313 628 2363.

Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you, member waters.

Caller user one one more time.

Okay.

Would I please do call member waters right now?

Let her know the address that you're calling us about, and they will communicate.

Hello, hello.

Perfect.

Oh, yes, we can.

Yes, I'm gonna last call if I'm Mr.

Bolden from Quality One Service for 200 Linux.

Oh, that you had my auntie there earlier.

Um, so we did, I do believe that we did.

Um, is there anything?

Um, sir, so we did send this back to BC to allow for um some communications on the back end, but you are the current owner and there are issues with the property while you're with us.

Uh, can we discuss those with you?

Sure.

Okay.

So we are discussing 200 Linux.

This is the eighth property under the 11th block.

And um, while you're here with us, we can let you know what the issues are.

Um, and we'll move from there.

Um, so while BC pulls up the information, sir.

Are you looking to keep or demolish the property?

I guess that's her son.

I was looking to demolish the property because I have already pulled clearances, but since my auntie says she wants to keep it, what I am gonna do is I believe we need to tarp the um one of the rooms, and then I'm gonna transfer it back in her name and let her take care of it from there.

Does your aunt have the ability to take care of the property, sir?

No.

I do not believe that we should do that then.

Unfortunately, if you give the property to your aunts, it will most likely still be demolished.

And instead of putting that burden on your aunts, if you're able to move forward, um, someone's gonna demolish this property.

And if it's the city, and if it lands on your aunts, she's gonna have a lien.

And I don't know how beneficial that will be for her to navigate.

Um, we have already sent this to B seed.

Uh quite frankly, this will give you time to communicate with your aunts to to think this through.

But looking at the property and hearing um the resources that are needed on your aunt's side.

I I can just see what could happen and the property being demolished and it being a burden on your aunt.

Um what are your thoughts?

Can we send this back for you to continue those conversations?

And you might still move forward.

Okay, you might still move forward with demolition, but I just want that frank conversation to happen and to that be thought through um before we do that.

That's not a problem because I didn't want her to say that I have took the property from her because I've had this property since 2019, helping her out.

We understand, and okay.

No, no, we understand.

Um, and yes, no, um, I just thank you for understanding as well where we're coming from and from what we're seeing.

I get it, I get it.

And I just want to make sure that I already got all of the Madam Chairman.

I already got all the clearances.

I already got the demolition company.

We we might need to try to convince your aunt then that that might be the best um the best thing for and that might be hard to do.

I know.

I just this is all I'm gonna say.

I think this is all I can do for now.

Um, but I I wish you good luck, okay, sir.

Thank you.

All right, thank you for calling in.

I'm gonna move us along then.

Miss Duncan, please do let me know if there's anybody else that raises their hands again.

If you're still online, you were a little shy.

Please now is the time because we will move along and close out our hearings for today.

Madam Chair, before you start, there's one hand raised.

Um Ramo Osman.

Ramo.

Yes, Rahma Usman here.

What was that?

Rahma Usman here.

Rose Rahma Osman is here.

Uh I I was waiting to be called on.

I haven't, and now I called my son to help me with the computer.

Oh, um, wonderful.

Which property are you calling us about?

14803 pressed.

Um, we might have hold on.

You address one press.

I don't know if that's where there are multiple pressed.

Okay.

142.

Thank you.

Okay.

So this is the second property under the 14th block.

Um, ma'am, this property is on the demolition list.

We will hear from BC to why.

And wondering, are you looking to demolish or keep the property?

Keep the property, ma'am.

Okay, we're gonna hear from BC what needs to be addressed.

Um, Mr.

Patal, whenever you're ready.

Thank you, madam chair.

Uh, on October 20th, 2025.

Uh, we inspected this property for this year.

We found uh single family one and a half story brick dwelling with garage.

We can open two trespasses at the front, damage window opening rope has some holes and is uh for the open for the elements, but Mrs.

Heavily overgrown and not maintained from the dress and debris, and that's what we are here in front of this committee.

Thank you, Mr.

Patel.

Um, so ma'am, there is a lot of overgrowth um to be addressed.

That seems to be the bulk of the issues here, along with um some openings that need to be secured, like this window.

Have you um it looks like you tried to board it up?

Can you let us know what you've done and what's happened since then?

I've boarded up the property and I cleaned it up, but uh I've been away for a while for health issues, but now um I got a letter that I haven't even seen, and this is the second letter I got.

So I sent people I land uh I ran at three uh dumpsters and I send people and they've been cleaning over the weekend, and just right now he was calling me to tell me that he was finished, and I did uh boarded that one window that was knocked out again.

And uh work on the also the the part of the roof that's open.

Okay, were you able to jot down the email address that we've been sharing?

Yes, I wrote down that.

And then are you looking to what are your plans for the property?

Is it gonna stay vacant?

Are you looking to repair, move in, sell?

I'm repairing.

I already talked to some people in Detroit to repair the property, but um, when I came back here, I got faced with some issues, broken ankle, getting in an accident, having heart problem and hospitalized for that.

So uh after all that, um I did clean right now, and I will send the pictures to them, and after that I'm working on to repair it.

Okay, understood.

Well, thank you for doing that, ma'am.

Um, and if you have the email address, then I feel comfortable moving forward.

Just please do take those pictures um and send those over to B seed as quickly as possible, okay?

Okay, do I have uh after I when I'm sending the the pictures to BC, is there going to be an attention to a particular person?

I don't believe so.

I would just uh note the address uh that you are emailing about and I would share as much information as possible that you had a hearing today, that you came to the hearing, that we sent this back to B seed.

So now you're sending the pictures, and then they'll do another inspection, they'll let you know whether or not there are any other issues for you to address.

And if not, they'll let you know that you are in compliance, okay?

All right, I appreciate it.

Okay, well, thank you for calling back.

Is there a motion to send one four eight zero three pressed back to BC?

Motion hearing, no objections.

14803 press will be sent back to BC.

Thank you for calling back, ma'am.

Thank you.

I will now move us along, Miss Duncan.

Please do feel free to interrupt me as I'm going through the rest of the list.

From the top, under the eighth block, we have agreed to send 6125 14th Street back to BC, as well as 10020 Archdale.

18848 Bloom is being ordered demolished.

2488 Buena Vista is being withdrawn.

3827 Burlingame is being sent back to BC.

All cell phones need to be churned off.

That was free.

PU 19170 Carmen is going to be ordered demolished.

As well as 12642 Chelsea.

All the following under the eighth block are being ordered demolished.

11096 Cloverlawn, 12759 Cloverlawn, 13623 Clover Lawn.

Is there a motion to concur with the remaining recommendations for the eighth block?

Hearing no objections, we concur.

For the ninth block, 2057 Dresden is being ordered demolished.

1410 Edmore Drive is being ordered demolished.

We concur to withdraw 5610 West Fort Streets from the demolition list.

One 9357 Gallagher is being ordered withdrawn.

Excuse me, is being withdrawn from the demolition list.

We agreed to withdraw 1810 East Grand Boulevard from the demolition list.

And 12519 Grainer are being ordered demolished.

We agree to send 3723 grisle back to B seed.

17408 Hamburg is being ordered demolished.

Is there a motion to concur with the remaining recommendations?

Motion.

Hear no objections, we agree with the recommendations for the ninth block.

For the 10th block, 7814 Helen is being ordered demolished.

We agreed to demolish 13517 Hayden.

Is being sent back to B seed.

The following are being ordered demolished.

2556 Highland.

And 17807 Hull.

20203 Hull is being withdrawn from the demolition list.

20409 Hull is being ordered demolished.

Excuse me.

So for 17807 hole.

Motion.

Hearing no objection, 17807 hole is being sent back to B seed.

And Madam Clerk, which number did I leave off on?

Yes, Vice Chair.

And so the cost analysis, is that going to be done by BCED?

And if so, what's the option?

What are the options being looked at?

To Mr.

Patel and to my vice chair.

So what we've seen happen is that BC reaches out to the property owner again.

Um, or not even BC'd.

The land bank also tends to listen in on some of these conversations, and we have seen the land bank identify properties, put them on NAP programs, and then begin to make progress in that way, which is why I think I should continue to do this work.

Um quite frankly, even today we've seen a few properties that are just missing a broken window or that just have an exposed part of the roof.

But are we saving money and potentially a property by giving more time and opportunity versus just demolishing paying the money?

We have seen success for me.

It's processed.

If we can save something, this process great.

If not, we move forward.

But even after today, we've seen a lot of properties that just have a broken window, and that kind of that makes me feel a certain way.

And I understand the concern just if we're doing cost analysis, who's doing that cost analysis?

Mm-hmm.

Patel, Mr.

Patel.

As far as we know, that is in a job of BC, then it is an option that we have as a council to ask.

The cost analysis of yeah, we we tried to give the cost uh to rehab on the same time the how much it's gonna cost per the demo uh that property so the cost analysis based we can do that way and then who their cost analysis go to.

Uh that we would provide the uh discommedi.

Okay.

Okay.

That's what was uh scared.

So for me the ultimate goal of a cost analysis is for us to realize how much money we're spending on demolitions and what that means for the city when we now have they can lots demolished properties.

I could have, if we put them an app program, if we were able to contact the owner again, that's the cost analysis here that ultimately I'm I'm I'm trying to figure out the cost of the demolition and opportunity.

Okay, that's fantastic.

I just want to remind this body though that we're here for public health and safety.

This is really about dangerous buildings and bringing people into compliance, and so it's great to have the cost analysis.

The ultimate goal really is just to secure properties and sure that they're no longer dangerous and comply.

So I hope that's the ultimate goal of this body is to make sure that we no longer have dangerous open and blighted properties in our neighborhoods.

Yes, Mr.

Chair, correct.

That is the goal in what we do.

These properties, if uh you look at them the way that um my staff has many of these properties are the ones that we send back to B seed already.

Um and we've heard issues of people not receiving letters on time.

So I'm hoping that some magic happens with some time to be able to save more properties, but um that is Madam Chair, yes.

Member Waters I mean, and as the home this population uh grows, um it certainly uh is an issue.

Uh I try to help save property, and there are some properties that are out there that BC really should be demolishing, and I don't see them anywhere on the list.

So I wanted to make that statement.

Thanks, Member Waters.

We have asked that question over the summer when we were doing our wellness checks.

A lot of the properties that were very, very dangerous are already on the list for demolition.

It just takes the time.

And for me, if it takes that much time to demolish what's already very very dangerous, why add a list of something that just has a broken window?

That if we take the time to find the owner or put them on a NAP program, we save that money in demolition and we save the property.

It doesn't always work out that way.

Some properties still move forward to to be demolished, um, but I'm simply talking about the properties here that are not in the immediate um danger of collapsing or being broken into, quite frankly, um, is the hope.

But thank you all for the questions.

Um allowing me to to explain that as well where we're coming from.

Um before so Madam Clerk again, can you let me know where I've stopped?

Absolutely.

Block 10.

Item 10.

Thank you.

And 1859 0.

Um I've read through all of block 10.

We are on 1859 zero Huntington.

This is being withdrawn from demolition list.

On this block, I would like to send 7814 Helen back to B seed for a cost analysis.

Motion.

As well as 5793 Holcomb.

Motion.

Hearing no objections, both of those properties will be sent back to BC for a cost analysis.

Uh Vice Chair.

So just at this stage, we're sending properties back.

We've already gone through these.

I I understand we want to save as many as we can, but without this body even having understanding of what the condition those properties are.

I'm also now a bit concerned sending properties back for a cost analysis, having no understanding of what the current status of those properties are.

Now, understanding that you may have already looked at that, but if we want to do that, I'd like to start seeing these properties and what the condition they're in.

7814 Helen, I believe, is in the third district.

I'd like to make sure that what we're not doing is exposing my bosses to additional and further uh danger by having dangerous and open properties next door to them.

So if we want to do that, can we start looking at what the condition of these properties are?

So we have an understanding as a body.

I do know that so as mentioned, we do review what the information that we are be giving.

We're provided by BCE.

So we're looking at the information, we're looking at the reports from B seed, and this is what we're seeing overgrowth broken window.

Don't know if we can see anything else because nobody, as far as I know, is going into these buildings to see anything else.

So what we see is what we will see.

Member Johnson, I know, does drive around, does check these addresses, recommend any other member that would like to verify these properties and how dangerous they are or not to do so as well.

And she does so because she is also concerned of the speed of demolition and the potential of potentially saving uh these properties.

Um here you're saying, and again, we are reviewing the same information that BCED has as well.

Moving us along to the 11th block.

Discussion.

Vice Chair.

So if my mistake, there was a motion on the table for a cost analysis in block 10.

For block 10, yes.

For both 7814 Helen and 5793 Holcomb, are there any objections?

Discussion.

And so, what makes us believe that 7814 Helen is saveable and does not deserve to be placed on the demolition list as nobody came to suggest that it was savable or wanted to.

I'm not sure who owns this property.

And this is in the third district, so what I don't want to do is continue to expose my bosses to dangerous and open properties.

And while it's easy to say from a photo what the property may look like without anybody coming to say, hey, I want to save this, it being properly noticed, the mail, what do we have that shows that it should be saved versus allowed to go to course to remove a dangerous and blighting influence in the neighborhood?

As I just mentioned, and as if we hear from many people, notices are late, they miss notices.

My hope here, because this has happened, and this is why I'm doing this moving forward.

We know the land bank reaches out to these properties to create NAP contracts.

We know that sometimes the property owner has now more time to reach out to BC and to work on the property and repair the property.

That is what we're doing here.

I understand what you're saying, but I don't know if we are understanding each other here.

Well, we had to do say maybe a bank to me.

Discussion.

And so I understand what we're trying to do is remove a property without having anybody come to say, hey, I want to save this property without understanding with the owner, outstanding taxes, if there are problems, we haven't looked at that today to see what they are.

We can look at a number or an address here.

Do we know there's a foundation issue?

Is has there been a fire of this property?

Is the rear of the property completely gone?

We just don't know.

Yet we're looking to remove them for a cost-benefit analysis.

There are there is an organization called BC that does this professionally, goes out, looks, take these complaints, and actually makes a recommendation to this body.

So I don't want to negate that fact, although I do understand that people do want to say properties, and that's very laudable, but also the reason that they're here is because they're dangerous and open and a threat to public safety.

I don't want that to be lost as well.

I don't think that's the case, Vice Chair, is what I'm saying.

And I think that we are in disagreements on the properties that are coming before us and whether or not they're dangerous or not, and that is what I'm saying.

There are too many properties in front of us that we are seeing that are being reported with just overgrowth with just a missing window.

And unless you're going out and inspecting these properties from the inside as well to see what their infrastructure is, this is the information that we are all given from B seed, who is giving us these recommendations.

And I'm saying from the information that I'm seeing from you, I do not agree, which I am allowed to do, and we are allowed to ask for more information.

Discussion.

Yes, Vice Chair.

So there is a professional body that does this for a living.

I'm not an engineer, structural, mechanical.

What I do know is that there is a law on the books that requires properties to comply with vacant property ordinance.

If they do not, they become dangerous buildings, which is what we're doing here today.

We are here to ensure compliance for the public health and safety of our residents.

As a person who lives, as a person who is responsible for the health, safety, and welfare of tens of thousands of residents in the third district, where blight is the number one concern that comes to my community in my office to continue to keep up blighted properties based on our thoughts versus professional recommendations, is concerning to me.

Is this a privately owned property, land bank property?

And I'm talking about 7814 Helen.

Um Mr.

Patel through uh through Madam Ted uh CM Ben, this is primary on property.

Okay.

And so how long has it been on the dangerous buildings list?

And so how long has it been on the dangerous buildings list and as a city council person in the third district?

No one has ever come to my office, nor door that I've ever knocked on has said, Councilman, this blighted dangerous property, please keep this up.

We can put somebody in this house.

Mr.

Patel.

Through through Madam Chair, uh CM Benson, this property will held the par damage in 2020, and then it came back to the system again on November to Tajant 4.

Administrative office heading with held or this property, and today we are print of this committee.

So this property through your to the chair.

This property in the third district has been on the on this list for now five years, and we're looking to do another assessment to see if we can save this property, open and dangerous, fire damage, obviously a lonely property.

Why would we want to keep this property up in a neighborhood that does not need additional blight?

Uh Vice Chair, this is your district.

If you would like to us not to send this to BC, we do not have to.

I would like to move on.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So there's no need.

It is my district too.

I mean when you have situations like this, I'd love to be able to see a photo of the property.

If if if if folks are getting um their paying 10 a lot.

Uh Vice Chair.

And so if we want to have these type of conversations, we have that supporting documentation.

And these photos can be brought up.

This type of data can be explained to us prior to us at the last minute saying I'd like to remove this incentive for a cost analysis.

I'm okay with cost analysis, but I want to make sure that it's not just without any supporting documentation, because I do care about what goes on in my district.

I do not want the light to stand, and my bosses do not want it either.

Thank you.

And just further discussion, if other members of council don't have an issue with properties being pulled, I'm fine with that.

But if it's a third district property, I'd like to have the ability to say no, or please come to me first and say I'd like to pull this property because my boss is telling me demolish these properties.

They're open and dangerous, they're blighting, they cause problems, rodents, things of that nature.

Understood.

That's what I that's what really member waters.

Sometimes I mean that we're all supposed to care about the whole city.

I represent the whole city, and of course, I'm always looking for ways to give people another opportunity.

Now, that property looks like it can be saved.

Right there.

Excuse me.

Um, and that is the only reason why we're asking for a cost analysis.

Member Benson is making his points about just wanting to demolish based on the amount of blade and D3 and the issues that he's hearing from his constituents.

Um I am not trying to be the save every building czar.

I'm trying to provide opportunities for us to save money and save housing.

That is it.

I'm not interested in fighting about how that happens or how, but we don't or do care.

We care deal deeply.

I'm just trying to see what we can do to give the public more time after hearing over and over again.

It's really come clear to me that the properties, it seems like a good portion of the people that are coming through this parts of the process need help any time.

Um, and some of them need the communication.

Those are the only things that I'm trying to address.

Member Waters.

Yeah, I you know, I'm one of those people that that's trying to help save property so that we can increase homeownership.

Uh as I indicated a little bit earlier, the homeless population is growing.

There all the time throughout the city, people say to me, why are you demolishing so many properties and stuff?

Why can't we uh have an opportunity for people to live there?

I hear that a lot.

Now I'm sitting here and I'm looking at this unless I'm seeing something wrong.

My eyes are playing tricks on me.

This is one of those properties that can be renovated and saved.

And we don't know to the point of our vice chair, the issues, the costs.

On the inside, if there's fire damage, I'm gonna assume it's intense.

I'm gonna assume it's not possible.

What I like though to do is through this process identifying a uh a possibility if it didn't work, it gets demolished.

I am not here, and again, we just said there are so many properties on the demolition list already that have not been demolished.

This will just be added to the queue, continuing to deteriorate, waiting for the year or so for it to be demolished.

What if what if by the time and the opportunity provided, we find another buyer, we're able to come up with that.

Who knows?

That is all that I'm trying to do.

But if you want to move forward without sending this back to BC, we can send it forward for demolition.

That is okay.

I'm just stating my theories.

Okay.

Um discussion.

Vice Chair.

So this is a property that's been on the books here.

B seed as a dangerous building for five years.

It is fire damage.

Which to me says this property is not salvageable.

While the exterior may not be fire damage, the interior, and if you look, go back one slide, please.

If you look at the roof line there, you can see where fire has come through the property to the exterior.

Five years, no occupants.

Open and dangerous, and this is what we're saying should stay in our community.

I say no to that.

My bosses say no to that, and I hope that the rest of council says no as well.

And while I'm sure there are multiple to the properties that can be saved, there are thousands that cannot.

And while it's easy to sit here at this table and say, let's save it, try living next door to that property or living across the street or behind that property, and the problems that it generates.

It's easy here, but it's far more difficult when you live next to one of these properties.

So, and that's why I have an issue with trying to save properties with little information, and from when we get a recommendation from the regulating body that does this for a living, and our property professionals, if we say, nah, I don't think we should do that.

Let us take a better crack at it.

Let's keep it up for another year.

It's been there five years already.

So I'm a firm believer, my boss is telling me, do not maintain dangerous open body properties in our neighborhoods.

If they can be salvaged, fantastic.

People come here all the time, they have great plans.

Oftentimes they don't come through, but at least they come to save the property.

And this one, no one came.

It's a lonely, dangerous property.

Let the process take its course.

And we don't have enough money to demolish all these properties.

And without if we can't find 11,000 to demo the property, who's gonna find 150,000 to rehab this property and bring it back online and make it code compliant where you can put a family in there.

I I do, trust me, but I understand that we have different ways of seeing solutions here, which is fine.

Um just member waters.

I um I mean, no, no disrespect to BC, but I don't always agree with you all when you bring those properties forward for those for demolit demolition.

I mean, I just don't always agree with all of it.

So um, and it also is also my job and my bosses citywide uh to look out for every every person, but to also make sure that people have a place a place to live.

I guess I I I guess I don't quite understand why it was out there for for five years uh on the on the list.

Is the owner missing an action or something?

Um Mr.

Patel.

Uh through Madam Chair.

Um so the initial yeah, initial part was that uh saying 2022, and then the uh somebody and uh what administer's uh administrative hearing was conducted on July 18, 2025.

And we didn't hear anything from them?

No, that we did not hear.

Uh also that I think uh okay.

Yeah, the proper we did not hear from the property on that.

Okay, well then maybe they've given up.

And that's what looks like uh this property.

Okay, okay.

And again, one more thing that we always followed our dangerous building ordinance.

And under dangerous building ordinance, particularly that structure, that's considered the dangerous building.

Okay.

All right.

So BC, if you wouldn't mind, can you show us fifty-seven ninety-three Holcomb?

And then can you let us know how long has this property been on the list?

Madam Chair, the first inspection was the fire run inspection on October 21, 2024.

Then we had the up the administrative hearing was held on a July eleventh, 2025.

No, so and then today we are front of this committee.

Okay.

Um this is part MS property.

All right.

Um can you show us one nine two two zero lean home?

Langhome.

What number is that, Madam Chair?

This is the fifth property under the eleventh block.

And to the chair's another third district property.

Okay.

So Mr.

Patel, this is boarded up somewhat.

What are the issues?

The the remaining exposed openings.

Yes, ma'am.

This also the door at the window is open.

Uh some exterior wall dam is there.

For their hearing, did anyone show up for the hearing?

No.

Okay, so up for the hearing, and we have the history from I think two thousand two thousand twenty four.

Uh yeah, history from the March eighth, two thousand twenty-three.

Okay, thank you.

Um, so I think what I'll do is um only move forward suggestions for district six.

I I do not appreciate being told that I don't care about the public health and safety of our residents.

I I would like to finish, Vice Chair, um, because that is the sentiment that comes with the with with what is being shared, and I am simply trying to figure out how we can save some of these properties that when we do our first review, it looks like we can be saved.

I will suggest um to any other offices listening um to to do like member Johnson and Member Tate that I do know maybe others do this as well, um, but that do that proactive work of looking around their district uh for any properties that might be salvable and doing some of their own outreach as well.

We will look and pull only from district six because I can do the same.

Um, but I'm I'm not interested in in fighting and and and saying that one does care, doesn't I trying to use the powers as the chair in this committee to try to be creative and how we try to save some of these properties is my only goal, Vice Chair.

Thank you.

So I'll make it very clear.

I've never said anyone does not care.

What I have said is my bosses continue to tell me they do not want dangerous blight and abandoned properties next door to them.

They want them taken down.

The number one concern in the third district to my office is blight, and it has been and continues to be, and we will continue to support that sentiment from my cop from my bosses.

If that is not shared with my colleagues, that's fine, that's their own personal sentiments, or what they hear from their constituent base.

I do not hear that from mine.

And one way to better serve this to is to get the information.

And so if we know that a property has been on the list for five years, if we know a property just got to the list and maybe is salvageable, there will be data that can be brought to this body every time we have a dangerous building here and to let us know this.

The amount of outstanding taxes, if there is a change in their ownership, those things would be very helpful to know that there was a fire five years ago, could also be helpful in trying to make decisions of this nature, but just to say that we want to save everything without having a deeper level of understanding of that property status, to me, just doesn't serve the best interest of my bosses.

Don't think it serves everybody else's interest as well.

But I'm more than happy to look at these to take a deeper dive.

What I'm not willing to do is just to say, hey, let's just move this off the properties, take another look without having taken a deeper dive, especially when this is the number one concern in my committee.

So I want to make it very clear.

I am not indicating no one, I'm not indicating anyone has less of a care or doesn't care, but our priorities are obviously different in this space, and I just want to make sure that the priorities of my bosses are heard and that as their duly elected representative, I am representing those those sentiments here at this table and the supportive of the other concerns to try to save properties, but I want to do that with more information and taking a deeper dive.

Thank you.

Member Waters.

Okay, thank you.

Uh well, let me reiterate once more that they are all my bosses citywide, number one.

Number two, when you are chair of a committee, you don't just to get the chair for district six.

You don't just get the chair for district five or four or three or whatever.

You are chairing on behalf of the entire city.

That's that this committee represents the entire city.

I I need you to understand that too.

So you cannot back down based on a whole district piece.

I won't allow it while I'm sitting here.

All right, my um when I was a state representative while I was elected from a specific district, when I took those votes, it affected the entire state of Michigan.

So we have to keep those things in mind.

That has always been my fear when it came to districts.

In fact, things become so territorial.

I want us to care about the whole city, whether you represent represent that area or not.

Uh, number one, and number two, I am always I'm gonna always conduct myself as if I represent the whole city, which is what what I do, and I'm not gonna get marred down in territory.

Member Waters, thank you.

I did not mean that to be territorial, I meant that to be respectful, because obviously what I'm trying to do You don't have that prerogative as chair.

I mean, you you have to your job is for the entire city when you're the chairperson of a committee.

All right, I mean I need you to really remember then I I do member waters, but we've got our vice chair here also pushing, and I'm trying to just land this plan and find solutions and find ways to work together.

So I think then if Member Waters, you are in agreements that we can move forward with sending these back for cost analysis.

Um we can agree to if Member Benson says no, respectfully respect them as is district and agree to not send it back.

Member Waters, since you also represent district three, if you want to send it over, that is your prerogative.

I would just like to figure out creative ways to do a better job.

Uh don't find it necessary to fight.

We can find creative ways to still make sure we're checking every district.

But what we can do now is move forward with what I was doing.

Member Benson, if there is a property in district three that you believe should not be moved forward, let us know.

But I would like to move forward now.

Okay.

We were under block 10.

We have, I believe, decided that Helen Streets, we will not move forward with sending this back to B seed.

Still made the motion to send 5793 Holcomb back to BC.

If is there a motion?

Motion.

Are there any objections?

Hearing none, 5793 Holcomb will be sent back to B seed.

Is there a motion to concur with the remaining recommendations under the 10th block?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, we agree and concur with the recommendations under the 10th block.

Under the 11th block.

18.

Oh, madam Clerk.

I just wanted to ask under the 10th block number seven.

Is that returning to B seed for analysis?

Yes, ma'am.

That's it is.

Thank you.

For the 11th block.

18727 Kelly is being ordered demolished.

14358 Kenfield is being ordered demolished as well as 3406 East Kirby and 3717 East Kirby.

I would like to send 19220 Lingholm back to BC for a cost analysis.

Motion.

Hearing no objection.

Third district.

Noting property.

Noting Member Benson's desire to not send this back to B seed.

I will concur and send this and keep this as an demolition order.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Moving us along, 1565 Lappen Leapin is being withdrawn.

4276 Larchmont is being but sent back to BC.

As well as 200 Lennox.

Hearing no objections, we agree with the remaining recommendations for the 11th block.

Under the 12th block.

We agree to withdraw 2208 Littisdale.

440 Livernoise being withdrawn.

Motion.

Hearing no objections, this property will be sent back to B seed for a cost analysis.

20509 Minards being ordered demolished, as well as 9675 North Martindale.

50, excuse me, 540 McDougall is being sent back to BC.

Is there a motion to concur with the remaining recommendations?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, we agree with the 12th block recommendations for the 13th.

11531 East McNichols is being withdrawn.

24501 West McNichols is being sent back to BC.

8060 Middle Points is being withdrawn.

We agree to withdraw 1549 military.

Motion.

Discussion.

I will concur with your disagreements.

We can send this over for demolition.

So that motion fails.

As well as 1483 Montclair.

2651 Montgomery is being ordered demolished, as well as 956 Mount Vernon.

1350 Pernard is being withdrawn.

Is there a motion to concur with the remaining recommendations?

Hearing no objections, we agree with 13th block.

For the 14th block, we agree to withdraw.

11401 pressed.

1914 Rapel is being withdrawn.

As well as two zero zero zero zero row, which we agree to withdraw.

One one three five four steel stell is being withdrawn.

Step out.

And 2714 Vinewood is being ordered demolished.

Is there a motion to agree with the remaining recommendations?

Hearing no objections, we agree with the 14th block.

For the 15th block, 14237 wait is being ordered demolished.

As well as 20202 Waltham.

We are sending back 6523 West Warren back to BC.

I would like one final cost analysis for 8610 Warwick.

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 8610 Warwick is being sent back to BC.

Is there a motion to agree with their following recommendations?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, we agree with the recommendations under the 15th block.

Miss Duncan, were there any other hands raised?

No, madam chair.

There are no rights.

Thank you, everyone, for a lively discussion.

Hope everyone, Vice Chair.

Yourself to the BC.

And this is to try to achieve the doing deeper dives on properties if and when they can be saved.

And so if we don't see them during the during this hearing, we don't get a deeper analysis of them.

Is it possible that for every property that comes to this body that we can add additional information instead of having just this with his address that it can include the information around taxes, ownership, how long it's been in your system, the first time is kept, a more detailed analysis.

That would make these type of conversations much easier and less contentious, I believe, if we had a basic level of information when we got to this table.

Uh Vice Chair, I agree.

I think at bare minimum, also the district, so that's all of us as a council and our staff can look at the properties that are on the dangerous buildings, and if we care to follow up, we can do so as other offices do.

Knowing how long the property has been on the dangerous buildings list would be helpful, and knowing if it's property damaged as well, I think would be really helpful.

Is there anything else specific that we think would be helpful?

From my colleagues.

We'll figure it out.

Is that something that we can do?

B seed?

All right, yeah, definitely we can try and see how we can provide that information.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Is there anything else?

Hearing nothing else, everyone, thank you so much.

We are now adjourned.

Okay, so