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Detroit Public Health and Safety Committee Meeting - November 24, 2025

City CouncilMonday, November 24, 2025
BodyDetroit, Michigan
SessionCity Council
DateMonday, November 24, 2025
StatusFILED
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0:10

Gabriela Santiago Romero.

0:12

Present.

0:13

Councilmember Scott Benson.

0:15

Councilmember Mary Waters.

0:17

Madam Chair, you have a quorum present.

0:19

Thank you, Madam Clerk.

0:20

Given a quorum, we'll go right into the agenda for today.

0:24

We have received our minutes from our last session.

0:26

If there's a motion to approve, motion.

0:29

Hearing no objections, our minutes from our last session will be approved.

0:34

Today is our last public health and safety standing committee for this term.

0:40

With that, we will need all of the items.

0:43

Madam Clerk, if we can sew notes in for my colleagues, all items need to be moved to new business unless otherwise noted.

0:50

So that's for all of us.

0:52

Thank you.

0:52

Moving us along, we can go right into public comments.

0:55

For today, we do have a 10 20 a.m.

0:58

discussion.

0:59

We will hear from the health departments as well as a 11 o'clock a.m.

1:04

public hearing regarding secondhand goods.

1:07

We'll go into that uh at 11 o'clock.

1:09

If you are calling in for the ordinance and you would like to make public comments, you have two opportunities.

1:16

You can do so now.

1:17

You can also do so during the public uh comment section for our 11 a.m.

1:22

public hearing.

1:22

Right now we will go into general public comments.

1:26

Everyone will have a minute and a half for general public comments.

1:30

We have a 10 a.m.

1:32

a 1020 discussion, 11 a.m.

1:34

public hearing.

1:35

We will have two opportunities today for public comments.

1:37

The first being general public comment.

1:39

If anyone is here in person for general public comment, please raise your hands.

1:43

We have three in person.

1:45

If you are online, please raise your hands now.

1:47

I will be cutting off general public comments in two minutes.

1:51

And again, everyone will have a minute and a half, two opportunities to speak if you're looking to speak regarding the second hand goods ordinance at 11 o'clock.

2:03

With that, we'll begin with the folks that we have here in person.

2:07

I have Teresa Davis.

2:16

Followed by Mr.

2:17

Foster.

2:39

First, we'll hear from Miss Davis.

2:41

Give us one second to make sure we have the mic, uh, the excuse me, the time on for you on the screen.

2:56

Miss Davis, whenever you're ready, your microphone is on.

2:58

You can go ahead and get started.

3:00

Excuse me, madam chair.

3:01

Sorry.

3:01

Um, what was the time you wanted set?

3:03

Oh, 1 30.

3:05

Okay.

3:08

Thank you.

3:10

Miss Davis, you can go right ahead.

3:13

Yes, my name is Teresa Davis.

3:15

I'm 72 years old.

3:18

And I wanted to approach the council with a situation regarding uh legal representation.

3:26

Uh I'm involved in a landlord tenant illegal eviction, and it has gone through the 36th district court level already, and it has been accepted at the third district court for an appeal.

3:39

The problem I'm having at this point is that there are no attorneys within on the listing or otherwise in the state that I can locate to represent me on an appeal level.

3:51

Um, I'm low income, I receive social security disability, I have medical challenges, and actually, um I need some legal representation.

4:02

I was able to purchase my transcript after saving for several weeks, and now I do have that, but I still need someone to represent me because the language and the procedures uh it's only by God's will that I made it this far.

4:21

Anything else you want to share, Miss Davis?

4:23

I would like someone on the council, if it's possible, to refer me to an attorney or some type of legal uh assistance because I have a list here that's given out in the city county building on the fourth floor for uh where you go look seeking uh legal assistance, and there are only um 36 district level uh attorneys there.

4:47

They will not uh represent you on an appeal level case.

4:51

Uh I was told that United Coalitions would be very good, but they um refuse the case.

4:58

Sorry, Miss Davis.

5:00

I have to cut you off, unfortunately.

5:01

That was your time.

5:02

Um so while you're here, um I, if you wouldn't mind taking a seat, I will have someone from my team connect you to resources that we know, HRD, see what we can do.

5:14

Um, but while you're here, we'll try to figure this out with you, okay?

5:17

Um so go ahead and take a seat um in the back there, and I will pin this for my staff.

5:23

Um so either Trish or TJ or Jajal can come down and try to see what we can do.

5:29

Let me send out a note.

5:30

Um, Mr.

5:31

Foster, followed by Joyce Jennings.

5:34

You can go right ahead, Mr.

5:35

Foster, whenever you're ready.

5:37

Good morning, uh, through the chair.

5:39

Just want to speak briefly about a couple of things that I think is important that I've um heard over the weekend from our Senate.

5:46

Um paramilitary and military alike.

5:51

Senator Slawkin, CIA has no jurisdiction in America, and so our perspective may be a little bit blurred as far as the law goes in military and not a UCMJ.

6:03

There is no law for any unlawful orders, no order at all.

6:07

According to the law under the UCMJ, which was established by a citizen here in Detroit, I previously spoke about by the name of Private Slocken.

6:17

The law says that you have the ability to be a conscientious objector, which means that you could disobey any orders that go against your morals or your conscience and things.

6:30

And so I think that's important, um, not just for the military, but for our paramilitary, our law enforcement here, and anyone that's speaking and representing us on a mass scale here, and not really getting perspective from the ground forces perspective.

6:45

Um, I think that's important when you are talking to the troops that you actually appeal to their conscience about what it is that they're doing.

6:55

And um on this agenda today, I see something that says successor to a uh to a grant or a set successor agreement to Detroit 300.

7:04

What is a successor agreement?

7:07

What do that means?

7:08

Appreciate.

7:10

Thank you, Mr.

7:11

Foster.

7:12

I appreciate you coming down.

7:14

Ms.

7:14

Joyce Jennings, public comment for general public is now cut off.

7:20

And then Miss Jennings, just please make sure your microphone is turned on whenever you're ready.

7:29

Good morning to the public and to our council leaders.

7:33

I am Joyce Jennings.

7:35

I live in District Three.

7:37

Um Councilman Benson is our leader in district three, and I am coming to ask if the city of Detroit will look at all of the environmentally hazardous businesses that are in our area, the and compare the number of people who are sick and dying, and consider calling a public health emergency for the city of Detroit.

8:02

After listening to last week's um special hearing that City Council held on last week, we are in the area where Kronos is located, U.S.

8:14

Ecology, which is now owned by Republic.

8:18

Um to Nevada, my Elliott over to Connor.

8:24

There is there are too many people who have cancer and who are sick and dying.

8:32

And we need to take heart attacks.

8:34

My neighbor um three weeks ago had a massive stroke and heart attack, and now she has a pacemaker.

8:43

The neighbor next door to her, the bakers, the um the mother now has a neurological problem, and her son has a contraction in his leg that they're saying is neurological.

8:57

He's been in the hospital almost a year after the three houses next door to their home was torn down.

9:04

We've received letters on our doors identifying an address on Nuremberg as being contaminated and for us to not go by it.

9:13

It's on the other side of our street and the soil that was identified in the letter, it still has not been removed.

9:21

We recently had a yellow hanger posted on our doors talking about demolition and it's dangerous and to stay away.

9:29

We need help.

9:31

And we need more help from you, Councilman Benson, especially below six months.

9:35

Thank you, Ms.

9:36

Jennings.

9:37

Into the Grasshaw area.

9:38

Thank you.

9:38

Thank you, Miss Jennings.

9:39

I'm sorry I had to cut you off as well.

9:41

Um, thank you for coming down, uh, duly noted, and we will continue to work um with your council member to help however we can.

9:50

That was it for the general public comment that we have here in person.

9:54

We will now go to our virtual general public comments.

10:00

Miss Duncan, how many hands do we have raised and who do we have first?

10:03

Good morning, madam chair.

10:05

There are a total of 16 hands raised.

10:11

The first caller being Stephen Horing.

10:14

Discussion.

10:16

Uh thank you, Miss Duncan.

10:18

Vice Chair.

10:19

Thank you.

10:19

Uh Ms.

10:20

Jennings.

10:20

Uh, I'll have staff reach out to you again.

10:22

I believe they spoke with you last week.

10:24

So we'll call you again today to find out how we can better work with you.

10:27

Thank you.

10:28

Thank you, Vice Chair.

10:30

Miss Duncan, who was it?

10:32

The first caller again.

10:33

Stephen Horring.

10:34

Mr.

10:35

Harvey, you're up next.

10:40

Thank you.

10:41

Can I be heard?

10:42

Yes, you can.

10:44

Awesome.

10:45

So I specifically want Councilwoman Santiago Romero.

10:50

I'll get care of this.

10:51

But you know, I'm very concerned about two socialists in our Detroit City Council.

10:57

You know, here in Miami, we don't allow socialists.

11:01

You know, people come to Miami to escape socialism and communism.

11:07

You know, I have a lot of Venezuelan friends I've met in Miami who, you know, are concerned about this movement, DSA, and others are umplementing in the U.S., you know.

11:21

It's very concerning, and it's very concerning in Detroit, you know.

11:27

You know, I'm very concerned about Denzel McCampbell and very concerned about, you know, just all together about the next council.

11:38

You know, I think Mayor Sheffield can do a good job.

11:40

You know, I think she's definitely moderate out quite a bit from you know 2015.

11:48

Uh, you know, I think she's gonna be a great mayor, but you know, with a council with two socialists, I think it's very concerned.

11:56

You know, Miami is a perfect example of how Detroit should have been wrong.

12:01

And it's a perfect example of the city is um a city can thrive under a you know liberal but capitalist governments the rest of my thank you, Mr.

12:17

Harring.

12:17

I hope you are enjoying Miami.

12:19

And last time I tracked Miami City Council voted to not hold an election, so not sure how I feel about elected offices, officials um doing undemocratic things.

12:31

So I think there has a lot to do, a lot to work to do everywhere.

12:35

But thank you.

12:35

Have a blessed day.

12:36

Who do we have next?

12:38

The next caller is Owner Papa.

12:47

Good morning, and through the chair, may I be heard?

12:50

Yes, good morning.

12:51

Well, let's let's let's talk about democracy.

12:53

On October the 7th, you all voted to give our property tax dollars excess dollars to corporate America.

13:01

This is not capitalism, this is socialism.

13:05

So you, Miss Romero, are on this council that voted to do that, and we have many things on your agenda that are not representative of the people, but of a socialist agenda that you are fulfilling with a socialist mayor.

13:24

This the this is um the epitome of ludicracy.

13:29

But I I am I'm glad that we're gonna have a new year, and I hope in the new year you understand that we're going to start filing lawsuits, and we're gonna be naming people like yourself, like Mr.

13:39

Benson, in these lawsuits because you are voting for this.

13:42

It's illegal to give my property tax dollars to corporate America.

13:47

I am not going to pay any more property taxes until you remove this uh atrocity because first of all, this illegal, and you want to talk about democracy.

13:58

We don't have democracy at this table.

14:00

We don't have democracy in this administration.

14:03

I'm glad we're at the end of the year, and I pray that God will come down and resolve the issues that are being caused because we can't stop you, and the courts don't say they don't do anything for the people, as the woman first woman uh told you.

14:19

The court system is defunct, you're defunct and dysfunctional.

14:23

Thank you.

14:24

Thank you.

14:26

Who do we have next?

14:27

Up to the clerk can please note even jumping member waters.

14:31

Thank you.

14:31

She's here barely.

14:34

The next caller is caller number ending one six nine, caller number ending one six nine.

14:43

Caller and one six nine.

14:46

Can you guys hear me?

14:47

We can hear you.

14:49

Okay, great.

14:50

I just want to say um thank you for praying for Brother Cunningham.

14:54

Um, thank uh happy Thanksgiving.

14:56

Um be a blessing and pay things forward.

15:00

It's still amazing that Cunningham does all these work without getting salary.

15:06

Work with him, not against him.

15:08

Touch not guys anointed, neither do his servant Cunningham no harm.

15:12

Period.

15:13

Do the opposite of harming him.

15:14

Be creative.

15:15

His number is 313-444-9114.

15:20

It is also his Cash App.

15:21

You can put that number in Facebook to find him on Facebook.

15:25

313-444-9114-313-444-9114-313-444-9114-313-444-9114.

15:37

313-444-9114-313-444-313-444-9114-313-444-9114-313-444-9114.

15:53

313-444-9114-313-444-9114.

15:59

313-444-9114-313-444-9114-444-9114.

16:10

313-444-911413-444-9114-313-444-9114.

16:20

313-444-914.

16:25

The next caller is William M.

16:28

Davis.

16:32

Good morning.

16:33

Can I be heard?

16:34

Yes, good morning.

16:35

Okay, I like to start off by saying I think the health department can should do a better job.

16:40

I think they should have a different location where they can have the residents can be able to park for free.

16:46

Also, they need to do a better job as it relates to infant motorcy in the city of Detroit.

17:13

Also, I'm amazed looking at 18.

17:17

I mean 8.18 emergency food purchases of 1.8 million dollars.

17:23

How stuff like this can happen without prior authorization or more information?

17:29

Because I find it fascinating that the mayor can find money for his fat projects to build PR, but has not been able to do anything to help the city of Detroit retirees because during his term in office, over 4,000 of us have died.

17:44

And monies came in that he could have and should have used to assist us.

17:49

And I hope with the new administration and new new people, new added people that have more social conscious will be willing to do more to help the city of Detroit retirees.

18:01

Y'all have a great day.

18:02

Thank you.

18:19

Yes, we can.

18:20

Oh my God.

18:21

Stephen Harwings.

18:22

Don't even come around here no more.

18:24

You stay down there in Miami.

18:26

You you tax uh fledger.

18:29

How dare you?

18:30

You don't call here and talk about socialism.

18:34

First of all, the city of Detroit, uh, and what we got going on here.

18:38

This is a capitalist city, and it is also a capitalist city in the streets.

18:44

Um, but no, no, no time to waste on him.

18:47

Happy birthday, Mother Agnes Hitchcock, 80 years old, a truth telling, fighting uh for black people and accountability in the city of Detroit.

18:58

It should be honored.

18:59

You should give her flowers.

19:01

The Detroit City Council, the administration, and all these should be over at Agnes's house giving her awards, proclamations.

19:08

The state of Michigan deserves to give her proclamations and awards, and including recognizable before uh long because and also shout out to Helen Moore.

19:19

We need to uphold our ancestors that had given us the opportunity to be where we are.

19:24

Um, as I step down and as I gave my announcement on Saturday, uh, I will no longer be around.

19:30

You know, you all got this.

19:32

I trust the city of Detroit one day will revolt and will take over the halls of con of uh city hall and would operate for the people instead of corporate interests.

19:42

And in the next council term, it's not gonna change, even if Gabriella and Don Denzel is right there.

19:48

There will be a five to three, six to one or eight all across the board.

19:52

So nothing will change.

19:56

The next caller is Betty A.

19:59

Varner.

20:04

Good morning to all within the sound of my voice.

20:06

I'm Betty A.

20:07

Varner, president of the Soto Elesworth Black Association, proud resident of the city of Detroit, born and raised.

20:16

I want to give kudos out to honorable uh council member Coleman Young the second.

20:23

Uh I had a blast at his event Friday.

20:26

Uh it was nice, uh, networking with people, the food was good.

20:31

Oh, the grits were yummy, yummy, yummy.

20:34

I was greedy.

20:35

I had to get a second helping.

20:38

So kudos to the caterer.

20:41

Uh we had a blast.

20:42

It was nice being on the east side.

20:45

I believe it was Scott Benson's uh district.

20:49

It was nice speaking with him for the second time in person.

20:53

So I just had a great time.

20:55

And thank you, honorable uh Coleman Young the second for the turkey.

21:02

And kudos to your uh staff, they're the best.

21:07

So thank you for the invite.

21:10

And for all within the sound of my voice, please share this information.

21:14

DEEAA has a program to help seniors stay in their homes.

21:19

If you're not eligible for Medicaid, please call 313-444.

21:27

No, 313-446-4444, and ask for the choice waiver program.

21:36

313 446, 4444.

21:40

Thank you.

21:42

The next caller is Rernard Munjanski.

21:52

Good morning.

21:54

Good morning.

21:55

Okay, good morning, madam chair and members of public health and safety committee, my district six resident and organizer with Detroit People's Platform.

22:03

Just wanted to raise to this body's attention.

22:06

I'm pretty sure you probably won't be able to do anything about this until the next session.

22:10

However, keep in mind about these uh e-scooters that are proliferating around our city.

22:17

Um, it's another form of what they call micro mobility.

22:20

Some people consider it predatory because they drop in all these cities and they don't have any regulations.

22:26

And what I mean by that is that people are getting hurt on these scooters.

22:30

Um, they have a high injury probability rate, around 52%.

22:34

Um, sorry, I don't have the source in front of me to cite that.

22:37

However, um in other cities, uh like Portland, Washington, DC, uh, Chicago, Minneapolis, a few others, and I noticed they have tighter regulations with their e-scooters.

22:51

They have designated parking areas, and they even have locks that are on the scooters themselves, and you put them on like a bike lock.

22:59

Unfortunately, in Detroit, when we get a new service or a new company comes here mobility, there's no regulations here.

23:06

The city, I don't even know if it has a regulatory structure, even to write rules and regulations regarding the e-scooters, but they're dangerous.

23:15

Um, I know we're preempting with the helmet laws, but we need some sort of reforms and some safety regulations and parking, so they're not littering all over the place, blocking disabled people from being able to use the sidewalk as well.

23:27

Um, so please take consideration into this matter.

23:30

Thank you, Renard.

23:31

I suggest that you reach out to member Callaway's office.

23:35

We did work on ordinances regarding um scooters in the city.

23:40

I believe that they are limited to the amounts of companies that we have.

23:44

There are limitations on where they can park.

23:47

Um, so reach out to her office.

23:49

Um there must be an issue of enforcements if you're seeing um a number of different companies if you're if you're noticing issues.

23:57

Um, but we do have something on the books.

23:59

Please return our office to see how we can make it better.

24:01

Thank you.

24:02

Who do we have next?

24:03

The next caller is caller number ending in 482.

24:06

Caller number ending 482.

24:13

Caller ending in 482.

24:15

You're up next.

24:20

Hey, Gabriela Santiago Romero.

24:24

You're a liar.

24:25

Relying on public record about the findings on the allegations of voted for by anonymous citizen report, which you said you had on May the 9th, 2024.

24:37

That's a lie.

24:38

Janice Wentfrey cheated you in.

24:41

Yeah, Daniel Back to Janice Wentfrey and G A V Walker, cheaty doing by asking D.

24:47

Ballot fraud.

24:48

Numerous cases of IP valid fraud in your election, Mary Waters election, Scott Benson election, and the whole city council, the school board, the board of police commissioners, and the mayor.

25:03

Now, the mayor, Michael Edward Duggan went into divorce court, divorced his wife, and stated that he was worth five million dollars and settled with her for two and a half million before he married the mistress, who was not a first lady of Detroit.

25:20

Mike Duggan obviously has been doing him and Conrad Mallett Jr., the City of Detroit Corporation Council were over at uh DMC when a whole bunch of money was overcharged to the federal government.

25:37

I'm a 93rd Republican precinct delegate for the state of Michigan, and also on a Republican executive committee for the state of Michigan, and I'm sick of y'all.

25:48

All y'all.

25:49

So I'm gonna turn the city upside down.

25:51

That's my word.

25:52

Y'all been cheated in.

25:56

The next caller is caller ending 992, caller number ending 992.

26:08

Caller ending in 992.

26:10

You're up next.

26:14

I'm telling the truth.

26:16

Okay, thank you.

26:19

Who is our next caller?

26:21

Caller number ending 039, call number in 039.

26:29

Caller ending in 039, you're up next.

26:33

The whole truth and nothing.

26:35

Okay.

26:38

You might have more cell phones than anyone we know, Mr.

26:41

Roo.

26:41

Who do we have next?

26:43

The next caller is Cindy Dara.

26:45

Miss Dara.

26:47

Oh, Jesus.

26:52

Cindy, you're up next.

26:55

Yeah.

26:56

Um, I think that it's a good idea to sue the uh city about this property tax thing.

27:04

And uh uh because when they did the school millage to make those people uh the commercial people pay their first share, uh they did that because they had to pay the debt off.

27:17

They took so much out of the tax capture, the TIF tax incremental funding in the last 10 years that they couldn't all they could do is operate on the money they had, so they had to uh put a new tax on us so that we can pay that debt off, but they're gonna tax capture that for the next 10 years.

27:38

And this is illegal.

27:39

We vote and uh jeopardize our property and pay more taxes to support our schools, libraries, and parks, and you don't know legislation in the state or anywhere else has a right to take that, including you don't have a right to take this excess taxes that you didn't budget so because it wasn't in the budget, it's excess.

28:03

So you're gonna uh give that away to somebody else besides who we voted for to go to?

28:09

That's wrong.

28:10

That's absolutely unconstitutional, and I've said it over and over, and nobody does anything about it.

28:16

Now we want our lawmakers to follow the law.

28:20

And Stephen Harway, uh, I'm uh thank you for going to Miami.

28:26

But you don't always have to call in.

28:28

We know what you think.

28:34

The next caller is caller number ending in 534.

28:38

Caller number ending in 534.

28:46

Caller ending in 534.

28:48

You're up next.

28:51

Yes, hello, may I be heard?

28:53

Yes.

28:55

Okay.

28:55

Well, I see we're gonna have the health department discussion.

28:59

I remember the days when Herman Kiefer was the health department.

29:05

It was the originally infectious disease hospital.

29:09

Uh at least $826 million of American Rescue Plan Act money came to Detroit, we could have rescued that um building and made it our health department so that we could be in compliance with Charter Section 7-201 and provide not just prenatal care, but that's not what Charter Section 7-201 says mental and physical health care.

29:37

I'd also like to ask the health department to embark on a dirty dirt alert.

29:44

Because uh, if there's been this much dirty dirt found in demolition holes as the type of thing discussed in the meeting last week on November 18th about suspension of a contractor where they found the dirty dirt, how much other dirty dirt is there?

30:01

I'd also like some help uh members waters and Santiago Romero.

30:06

If if you get a blight ticket, but there's no proper notice, and the only way I then there should be no prosecution of it.

30:15

Like they can there's technology, they can take photos of their you know allegedly serving somebody.

30:21

Um I shouldn't find out that I got a ticket because I get a collection notice in the mail and there's no proof.

30:28

I've been asking the next caller is not that Karen.

30:40

Yes, we can hear you.

30:42

Great.

30:43

Um, yeah, I agree a hundred percent um with that collection of the blight tickets.

30:47

We just pop them on your door and you don't even notice you remember you're in violation until after it's too late and you're uh summoned to court.

30:56

Um I just saw a report.

31:00

There's about 86 more full social security checks before they're gonna be reduced across the board.

31:05

So you guys have that to look forward to.

31:08

Um you know, like I said, first they came from me and you did nothing.

31:12

Now they're gonna be coming for you by the time you get ready to draw social security.

31:16

We'll see who does anything for you guys.

31:18

Uh City of Detroit retirees.

31:21

We don't want to fast track.

31:22

We want our money back.

31:24

We wanna be made whole, and we don't wanna die paying for something that we worked 30 years to collect.

31:30

We we don't think that's very makes very much sense.

31:34

Um good news for me, I closed on a new property and and selling my Detroit property last week, and to my delightful surprise, my property taxes were cut by over 40%, and my automobile insurance was cut in half from 2800 a year to 1400 a year.

31:50

I don't know how other cities can afford to take care of things like trash and all the other city um essentials for a lesser amount than the city of Detroit can do it for.

32:02

Uh I like to salute uh councilwoman with O'Calvo on the decorations on West McNichols.

32:09

They're beautiful, they're not all one color this year, and I think it makes it look better.

32:14

Thank you.

32:18

The next caller is Melissa Love.

32:25

Y'all blight residents, but not blight these liquor stores with trash and glass everywhere.

32:32

Wow, congrats on your last session of no representation.

32:36

Love versus business et al.

32:38

Case number 25-CB-13105.

32:42

The National Water Registration Act of 1993 states that Secretary State must maintain clean of order roles.

32:48

I'm Melissa Love, never voted.

32:50

November 2020 or August 2024.

32:53

I would not be silenced and justice will be served.

32:56

And respect will be on my name.

32:57

I will not stop or be stopped.

32:59

I will continue to speak about this evil corruption.

33:02

I am here to demand justice and representation for the city of Detroit.

33:06

I will continue to fight for what's right and fear no evil while doing so.

33:09

City of Detroit, if we had representation, BTE wouldn't be so high.

33:13

If we had representation, insurance wouldn't be so high.

33:16

If we had representation, we wouldn't have so many liquor stores and dispensaries with little grocery stores.

33:21

If we had representation, our empire wouldn't be so high.

33:25

If we had representation, this desolate neighborhood would be gentrified.

33:30

If we had representation, the meet the Miko Williams wouldn't disguise himself as Renard Miskuski, and he have two comments.

33:38

Y'all y'all need to wake up and actually do right for the people.

33:42

We deserve contracts and grants.

33:44

Y'all were so ready to lock me up on Tuesday.

33:46

That's not representation.

33:48

But just wait.

33:49

GAWA expose evil wrongdoings.

33:53

Y'all all are evil and will be held accountable.

33:56

No justice, no peace.

34:01

The next caller is please help.

34:15

To our next caller, can you hear us?

34:22

I will assume Miss Warwick.

34:24

Are you under please help?

34:26

If you so you are next.

34:34

Who do we have next?

34:39

The next caller is it looks like they're speaking and they're unmuted, but we just can't hear them, Madam Chair.

34:46

Um, but the next caller is we can.

34:48

I just I just heard Miss Warwick.

34:50

Miss Warwick.

34:51

Yeah, can we do something about not getting served a blight notice, but we get it.

34:58

Excuse me, Madam Chair, I believe Miss Warwick already spoke.

35:01

She spoke earlier today.

35:03

Yes, ma'am.

35:05

Okay.

35:05

Then we're gonna have to go back to our next caller.

35:10

The next caller is Sonia Brown.

35:16

Good afternoon.

35:17

May I be heard?

35:18

Yes, you can.

35:20

I'm today I'm calling in because I went to the mayor's meeting and I spoke about the water and sewage that I've concurred repeatedly in the basements of Auntie Nay's house, Aunt Tina's village.

35:33

In retaliation to that, I had the water department come out here and turn my water off.

35:39

$48 to turn it off, $48 to turn it back on.

35:43

For $10 payment, make that make sense.

35:46

If that was not retaliation, I don't know what was.

35:50

But after speaking to our umbudsman's office, instead of him aiding me in the retaliation, he informs me about another water bill.

35:59

Outstanding water bill, I will add, that was due.

36:02

That had nothing to do with my complaint about the water department's retaliation.

36:07

And then I had someone from the water department call me and say, Well, we don't have receipts.

36:12

Oh, you all have receipts.

36:14

You all have photos.

36:15

This has been ongoing for years.

36:18

The fact that I can't get any resolve from my city council who knows I sent the photos in repeatedly for years.

36:26

Miko Williams, Miss Beula Walker, who aided me in getting things back restored after they seen I had gone on there and made the arranged payment as they asked.

36:36

This is how I was treated.

36:38

I put food out here to my community.

36:41

I howls those in my community.

36:43

I do everything I can to aid my community.

36:46

What I can't get is my city council aiding me in this fight.

36:50

So now I'm looking to take off a water department.

37:02

Miss Sonia Brown, if you wouldn't mind reaching out to our office, it sounds like you've already reached out to your council member.

37:08

You do have two at large members as well.

37:10

We can connect you to see how we can help.

37:13

Thank you.

37:14

Yes, please.

37:15

Member Waters, what is your phone number to your office for Miss Brown?

37:19

Uh my number's 313 628 2363.

37:26

And you're right, $10.

37:28

Sounds a bit minuscule to me.

37:30

313 628.

37:33

6323.

37:34

Thank you, madam chair.

37:36

Thank you, Member Waters.

37:37

Who do we have next?

37:39

Madam Chair.

37:40

The last hand raised was Jadante Smith.

37:43

Um he's also here in person.

37:45

All right, so you can go right ahead and take a seat.

37:47

Make sure your microphone is turned on whenever you're ready.

37:57

Good morning.

37:58

Uh appreciate the chance to speak in person.

38:00

Thank you.

38:00

I was gonna say Gabrielle and Denzel are gonna do excellent in the council uh in their positions.

38:04

Uh Steve Harwing, we don't care about your opinion.

38:07

Glad you're in Miami.

38:08

Um, also, please down zone Chrono.

38:10

Someone submit the down zoning at large.

38:12

I know Scott Benson won't.

38:13

Also, I support 100% of CVI funding, even though I fight with them tooth to nail.

38:18

It's like sibling robbery.

38:19

Uh, I support the work they're doing.

38:21

Also, I want to apologize to Tyler Cersei.

38:23

She was pretty upset uh last Tuesday about my comment that I made walking out.

38:27

So I didn't have to engage you, Tyler.

38:29

You're you're doing incredible work with Mary Sheffield, and I'll let I'll let I'll let you have it.

38:33

Um also I want to say I hope this city council does some independent verification about the shot spotter contract because the border police commissioner has done none.

38:41

Commissioner Durrow Woods was vice chair.

38:43

He he spoke pretty much misread, mislisten to the information that was given to him.

38:48

He thought that there was 11 people saved with shot spotter per month.

38:51

There was 11 people saved from January 1st up until uh the meeting we had Thursday.

38:56

So also the Bustle Foundation Center development uh uh the outreach community outreach was lacking.

39:01

Also, I want to say like the residential parking near um the residential parking is special for the parking meters near Little Caesars Arena is very unfair to residents.

39:09

There was a whole entire block of cars told uh like a Chris Brown concert or something like that because people didn't read the signs, they didn't realize because it's unfair.

39:17

Also, I want to say we need to change the Detroit legal news being the only uh module the only mediation not mediation, but only dissemination of information around developments because it's 13 newsstands for 139 square miles.

39:28

There's no way the residents get the information.

39:30

Thank you.

39:32

Thank you.

39:34

All right, that is it for general public comments.

39:38

We will now go into our morning discussion for today.

39:46

We have a 1020 a.m.

39:48

discussion regarding the health departments.

39:51

I see that our chief has here has joined us.

39:54

Thank you for joining us.

39:55

If you wouldn't mind stating your name and title for the public.

39:58

Absolutely.

39:59

Good morning.

40:00

My name is Denise Ferrazzo, and I am the chief public health officer for the City of Detroit Health Department.

40:06

Thank you for joining.

40:07

Who else will be joining you if you wouldn't mind sending your naming title for the public?

40:12

Good morning, Christina Floyd, Detroit.

40:14

City of Detroit Health Department, Deputy Director, and we also have Angel Tomsik, who should be made a panelist as well.

40:22

All right, we'll go ahead and make the morning.

40:27

I'm Angel Tomsick.

40:28

I am the HIV and STI programs director for the Detroit Health Department.

40:33

Thank you all for joining us.

40:34

Appreciate you being here.

40:36

Really want to just give you the opportunity to share with the public the incredible work that we know you do.

40:41

In this committee, we see a lot of grants go through.

40:44

We see a lot of what is happening, but folks don't know actually what is happening.

40:49

And we're always being asked to push our health department to do more.

40:53

So I wanted to give the opportunity to share what we do, what is being worked on, for the to give the public a clearer picture, and then of course continue to do whatever we can moving forward to address the other issues that are brought up to the city.

41:09

But with that, I'll turn it over to you.

41:11

I believe, does anybody need um screen screen or screen sharing abilities if you don't already have it?

41:19

Everyone, I believe you have it.

41:21

I'll share my screen.

41:22

Okay, then I'll turn it over to you.

41:26

Very good.

41:27

So we'll go ahead and get started and to the chair.

41:30

We just wanted to spend the next few minutes or so again per year request giving an overview of the health department, more or less the big picture and the uh overall operations.

41:41

So I'll take on that, and then I'll pass the baton over to Christina to give an overview of our financials and some of our contracts contractual services.

41:49

And then finally, um Angel Tomzik, the director for uh HIV STI, she'll spend some time talking specifically about her program and what she's seeing in the community.

41:59

Um so hopefully we have the slides up.

42:01

Uh, but if not, uh, we'll just go ahead and get started.

42:04

So the health department, we've been doing this work for over 100 years.

42:08

We've been out in the community providing services to our residents.

42:12

Uh, the majority of our services include lead testing, reproductive health, food safety, vision and hearing screenings, along with many other resources to support the public health of our residents.

42:24

And if you can go back to the slide number two, I want to pause here because this is the team that's doing the work.

42:30

Very, very proud of almost 300 public health professionals who are passionate, who are about the people and who really want to uh they really want to serve.

42:41

Um, and so I want to give a shout out to my team.

42:43

Our mission is to address the public and population health priorities of Detroiters, and our vision is to create healthy communities where every Detroiter has the opportunity to thrive.

42:53

So on the next slide, these are a few of our services.

42:56

So we provide about 40 programs from our behavioral health services where we provide prevention and education.

43:04

You can come to the health department and speak to a behavioral health uh specialist about any issues that you may be having.

43:10

If you need more direct care, we will provide a direct referral over to D Wynn and other um programs throughout the city of Detroit.

43:20

We have another program called Children's Special Health Care Services, where we help families with chronically ill uh children and adults with special health needs up until age 26.

43:30

So we provide support for roughly 2700 diagnoses.

43:35

Uh, we have our communicable disease program because again, our job is to control and slow the spread of infectious diseases.

43:42

So we have an entire team of CD and epidemiologists who are keeping us safe.

43:48

We have our community health services program that's our led our vision and hearing, where we're partnering with uh DPSCD and charter schools.

43:57

We're in the community, we are in churches, um, making sure that our residents have the support that they need.

44:04

We also have an entire team dedicated to our emergency preparedness.

44:08

So their job is to prevent, to protect, and to mitigate response and recovery of security planning.

44:16

So, in case we have a cyber attack or if we have another pandemic, we want to make sure that we are prepared.

44:22

So we're constantly training our team, but we're also um training the community as well, our community-based organizations so that they know how to respond if we do have an emergency.

44:33

And finally, with our environmental health and our food safety, um, we provide inspections for pools for daycares.

44:40

Um, we conduct plan reviews, and we also inspect our restaurants and others.

44:45

And again, our central local public health services that just provides support to our entire population through a variety of community health initiatives.

44:55

And again, um, these are more programs that we provide of reproductive health care.

45:00

We have a whole clinic, I decide where we provide again reproductive health care and family planning.

45:05

I mentioned our food sanitation.

45:08

Our HIVSTI, Angel is going to give an overview of that program, but we provide testing, education, and assistance, and of course, prevention.

45:18

We have an EMS program immunizations where you can come to the health department, bring your family, bring your kids and get vaccinated.

45:25

We really believe in the power of vaccinations and keeping our community safe.

45:31

We provide lead prevention, uh, education, prevention and treatment against lead poisoning.

45:36

That includes going into homes and testing for any lead and then providing referrals as needed.

45:43

Our maternal and child health program, this is one of our biggest programs where we provide intervention and family well-being services.

45:50

This includes our sister friends program, which is essentially a mentoring program for moms who are pregnant, um up until one year of their child's birth.

46:03

Um fits.

46:04

And so Rides to Care, again, quick plug.

46:06

It's a program designed to address our infant mortality, which continues to rise in the city of Detroit.

46:12

Uh, this provides a free ride for moms.

46:17

Um, when they're when they're pregnant, they can go to their doctor for free.

46:21

They can call 313-876000.

46:24

We partner with Uber Health to again give them a ride for all their prenatal appointments.

46:29

And then once the baby is born, the mom, the caregiver.

46:33

So whether that's the grandparent, that's the father, the mom, anyone can take that child to all of their pediatric appointments up to one year of age.

46:42

Again, this is a free program.

46:44

Um, and again, thanks to city council, thanks to our mayor uh for launching this program.

46:49

And then finally, our WIC services.

46:51

We do have six WICS clinics throughout the center throughout the city of Detroit that's managed by the health department, and we provide nutrition education and fresh food options for mothers and infants, infants up until age of five years old.

47:05

So that's kind of the overview of our services and activities.

47:08

But this requires a very hefty budget.

47:11

And so with that, I'm going to turn it over to Christina to talk a little bit about our budget as well as our contractual services.

47:17

Thank you, Denise.

47:18

So, as we can see, our budget for FY26 uh is roughly about 20% of general fund, uh, where 80% is made up of our revenue from service fees, as well as federal and state black grants.

47:32

These grants come from uh various uh opportunities, philanthropic, uh, CDC, PRSA, uh, and beyond our service uh fees and revenues uh are generated through uh our food safety, environmental health, as well as medical billing uh and others.

47:50

And so uh we are able to uh ensure that all of our services are met under our essential local public health services through our state black grant uh from money that we get from uh Michigan Department of State Health Services.

48:07

Our contractual services, uh just like others throughout the city of Detroit, we have uh citywide contracts for various marketing uh and other contractual needs, uh but some of the highlights that we do that are different from others, fall center for rights to care, to which Denise has spoke about medical services, so the way State Borrow Ryan White, which you will hear about as well.

48:32

Uh, we have uh medical equipment as well that we use through MUCSS, such as through our I decide program, and for operations, we make sure that we have contracts in place for our leases, maintenance, as well as uh security, and last but not least, transportation.

48:49

We want to make sure that equitable access to all of our services, not just here at the health department, but for those for medical uh as well as others.

48:58

And so we utilize Uber for our transportation for our patients.

49:05

So we were uh asked to kind of highlight uh what we are doing for our STDs uh and STI uptics.

49:13

And so what we wanted to show you was for Gotarrhea, chlamydia, and syphilis over the past five years.

49:18

Uh, we have seen uh start decrease.

49:21

However, we do know, especially for gonorrhea, that uh it's still a problem.

49:26

And we will again have that conversation with Angel as she addresses what HIV uh STI prevention does in her program.

49:36

Then for comedia, uh, the same thing.

49:38

We know that uh certain populations are still highly impacted, but we have again seen a start decrease over the past five years.

49:46

Uh we are not out of the water, and we have prevention strategies in place to continue to tackle community as well as diarrhea.

49:55

Last but not least, primary and secondary syphilis.

50:00

We know that the slight curve, especially during uh COVID.

50:03

Uh we saw a deep an increase, rather, uh, but definitely we are seeing primary sequence going down, but we do know again uh that there uh are upticks in it.

50:16

And so again, we will have strategies and we do have strategies in place to ensure that we are meeting the needs of the community.

50:25

Services that we offer for HIV, uh STI uh is a wide range.

50:30

And so we have through uh, as Denise stated for our decide, uh condoms, birth control, emergency conscious epic, HIV testing, uh as well as treatment uh pattern, which uh Angel will discuss well women's exams and pregnancy testing.

50:48

We also make sure that we get youth involved uh to ensure that we are reaching populations that are mostly uh at risk for HIV and STI infections.

50:58

So I'll turn it on over to Angel.

51:04

Good morning again.

51:05

One of our program's interventions utilized to decrease our HIV and STI throughout the city of Detroit, as well as Highland Park and Ham Tramic, is our offering of free condom distribution.

51:16

Our program works to make it easy to get condoms.

51:19

We have distribution centers throughout the service area at community-based organizations as well as clinics, um, businesses, churches, bars, as well as educational events.

51:30

We also have an opportunity for our residents to order condoms via the QR code on your screen.

51:37

When a person requests condoms through our smart sheet, they are mailed directly to the clients' homes in a nondescript envelope that includes about six condoms as well as safer sex information.

51:49

In previous fiscal year, the previous fiscal year, which ended just in September, we distributed over 90,000 condoms.

51:57

We do ensure that condoms are available at our outreach events as well throughout the community and on a regular basis, including at various educational events as well as our pull-up project, which is a mobile health initiative, which is offered at the Palmer Park area, providing HIV care and preventative services during our non-traditional hours.

52:17

We are also have condoms available.

52:20

We will also have condoms available at our upcoming Black HIV Awareness Day Summit on February 27th.

52:26

Next slide.

52:33

So through our senior health educator, our team of senior health educators, we also offer a variety of education and outreach to our community.

52:40

We have HIV and STI testing our trainings focusing on prevention education about STIs and how to protect yourself.

52:48

We also offer HIV and STI education at various senior clubs and centers throughout our jurisdiction, aim to keep our seniors safe, um, which is called seniors are getting it on.

52:59

We do offer a parents matters program that works to provide positive communication as well as education to parents and guardians, giving them the tools needed to talk to their teens about sexual health and the confidence needed.

53:14

The newest of our groups is our boys will be men education program, and this is modeled after our We're Just Girls intervention and works to provide sexual health as well as self-esteem trainings for our young men, ages 13 to 18.

53:30

Our most popular education provided is our We're Just Girls program.

53:34

This is a sexual health eight-week workshop for teenage girls between the ages of 13 to 18, covering topics such as goal setting as well as abstinence, methods for reducing the risk of STIs and pregnancy, as well as maintaining and building those positive relationships.

53:52

And then another tool that our program offers is our ability for physician detailing provided to public provided by two of our public health project coordinators.

54:00

This offers um is offered to increase provider awareness and prescribing of prep impact.

54:09

Our target audience is physicians as well as urgent cares throughout the city and medical clinic staff and students.

54:19

And I believe that's it for me.

54:25

So that uh concludes our presentation.

54:28

And so we would um be open for any questions.

54:32

Thank you.

54:32

Thank you all for giving us this overview.

54:35

It's incredibly helpful, um, especially for the public to get a better understanding of all the things that are done by the health departments.

54:42

Um, so thank you.

54:44

I don't have any immediate questions for folks right now.

54:48

I'm just really looking forward to our continued work um around um public uh health and safety, especially when it comes to the environmental impacts that we're dealing with and the conversations that we've been having around how we potentially monitor that um to better protect residents.

55:06

But wondering if there are any questions from my colleagues.

55:09

If so, I'm gonna uh give us just for points of order, like to call our 11 a.m.

55:16

public hearing to order and resize to the call of the chair.

55:20

We would continue with discussion, uh Vice Chair.

55:22

Thank you.

55:23

Um and thank you to the health department.

55:25

Uh you all have been one of the many beacons of light of success within the city of Detroit.

55:31

Your staff, your diverse offerings when it comes to the public health residency Detroit is huge, and it's often not highlighted.

55:39

And so an opportunity today to educate the public on what you all do and the positive impact you have on their daily lives and their quality of life and their health, which is something we don't often talk about.

55:51

My offices have the opportunity to work with you on a number of initiatives.

55:54

Uh too cool for drugs.

55:56

Really proud that you all are taking a lead on that when it comes to providing a safety net for our youth when it comes to marijuana use and other substance uh use issues.

56:06

So thank you all for that.

56:08

Dining with confidence, a very heavy lift that we were able to partner with yourselves and implement when the cries were that we're going to put black and brown bus businesses, restaurants out of business.

56:21

Um, if I'm not mistaken, that's not what we're seeing today, and quite the opposite may be what we are seeing.

56:28

Um, in addition, we do the annual with along with my colleague, Member Waters, the uh bingo with Benson.

56:34

We do a number of senior uh dedicated events that your department comes to with its table.

56:40

And the first time that I actually took notice and went and visited the table, there was a huge bowl of condoms there.

56:46

And I thought to myself, maybe they misread the the invitation and thought that this was the teenage bingo uh meeting, but it was a senior bingo meeting and your staffer educated me in using your words, seniors get it on.

57:01

Um and I and I was unaware of the syphilis and the STI issues that were prevailing within that community.

57:08

And so just having a department like yours that's prepared to lean in, give this type of information, and then talk about the subjects that may be uncomfortable or just not typical to talk about is also very, very important.

57:24

And I've had conversations with uh director Ferrazo as well when we see contracts that come up.

57:29

One being we talked about uh women's health and Pap smears.

57:32

I thought to myself, that seems a bit invasive for a city department to do, but not at all.

57:37

Councilmember Benson, this is something that's very important and that we offer to the residents for free, and something that may be out of reach of a certain population because we do have a very low-income population, and a large number of our residents live at or below poverty, and typical medical health that others may take for granted is not always available to all of our residents and having a city department that's committed to making that happen and doing it in a dignified, safe and anonymous way is also huge.

58:09

That's what we want to make sure that I acknowledge that today and just say thank you all and to your 300 um staffers, and then this past uh Halloween had a chance to go to one of our trunk retreats, and I was glad to see that dining with confidence is now part of pop culture where the uh trunk or treat had his dining with confidence uh set up.

58:30

And so they're giving out trees and talking about dining with confidence and how important it is, and it's not this great scary Halloween monster.

58:36

So just really excited to see those items.

58:38

And if you could just briefly talk about Too Cool for Drugs and how dining with confidence has had an impact on our food culture and the food scene right here in the city of Detroit.

58:50

Absolutely.

58:51

Um thank you for your comment and through the chair.

58:54

You know, I uh I am a self-proclaimed Detroit foodie, and it just brings brings me great joy when I walk into a restaurant and I see the dining with confidence green sign proudly displayed in their window.

59:08

And I know Councilmember Benson, you and I will exchange pictures back and forth to say, hey, did you see this restaurant?

59:14

Um so it's been wonderful.

59:15

Every time I walk into a restaurant, the owner has great things to say about the program, and it's it's really a great opportunity for our restaurants.

59:23

I know in the very beginning, people were very concerned about it.

59:26

They had lots of questions, but again, um if if you want to be a hot uh hot restaurant in the city of Detroit, you want to be a part of dining with confidence.

59:34

You want to make sure you have your green placard.

59:38

Now, I will tell you that uh Scott Wittington, who is the manager of environmental health, he constantly tells his team to make sure that we are up to date on all of our inspections.

59:49

Um and he's been doing an incredible job with his team.

59:53

I also want to take this time to remind our public that if you see something, say something.

1:00:00

So if you're in a restaurant and you see that perhaps the restaurant isn't as clean as it should be, or you see rodents running through the facility, please let us know because within 24 hours we are committed to getting a team out to that restaurant to do an additional inspection.

1:00:15

So I do want to make sure that is very clear.

1:00:17

Again, if you see something, say something, you can send us a DM on Facebook or Instagram, or you can go to our website and fill out a complaint again within 24 hours, we will be there.

1:00:28

Um, and then I also want to comment on uh you you mentioned that the health department, we are leaning in, certainly are we're leaning in, and we're not shying away from any of those tough conversations.

1:00:39

You're right, seniors are getting it on, and we are not afraid to say that.

1:00:44

And because they are sexually active, we want to make sure that they have the tools that they need to protect themselves.

1:00:51

So whether that is condoms, whether that's education, we if you um call the health department, we will come to your senior facility and we will give an overview of how seniors should keep themselves safe and protected.

1:01:06

But yes, public health is not going anywhere.

1:01:09

We are here to stay and we're here to fight for our residents.

1:01:12

Thank you.

1:01:14

Thank you.

1:01:15

Thank you.

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Vice Chair.

1:01:17

And just one last item.

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And so, as Director Ferrazo indicates, if you call, they will come.

1:01:23

And so I also am a self-declared Detroit foodie, and I like to tour and taste all the different establishments, especially the ones that pop up new in my district.

1:01:34

But one of the the reasons that I fought so hard for this ordinance was because there is a belief that if you are low income, you're low quality, you don't deserve the basic level of health that other communities do.

1:01:47

And so I still will find, I'll go to a restaurant, oh, brand new, pop in.

1:01:51

There's no green placard, and there may be an obvious disdain for basic cleanliness and health, like a fly strip that may be hanging over a door, just some basic guidance like that doesn't seem right, and no green placard.

1:02:05

So I'll make the phone call, and within 24 hours, there is somebody who has been there, and unfortunately, a few of those locations have had to close their doors for some self um introspection, and they quickly open up again.

1:02:18

Uh but ensuring that our residents, especially our residents who may not live in our more traditional sexy neighborhoods, know that the city of Detroit's health department is on it, and we value everyone's health.

1:02:31

Just helps me tremendously when we talk about how important having a robust and engaged health department is and how we are committed to ensuring that everybody's uh health is taken care of no matter what their income is.

1:02:45

And so I just want to uh reinforce what you said earlier about that and say thank you for being so proactive and responsive when I make those calls.

1:02:54

Thank you.

1:02:54

And again, through the chair, I also want to address your second question.

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And Christina, deputy director, if you wouldn't mind addressing the Too Cool for Drugs program.

1:03:02

Yes, definitely.

1:03:03

Uh, through the chair and the council member Messes.

1:03:05

So uh that has taken a really mind of its own.

1:03:09

Uh, it's been really interesting seeing uh the youth kind of take over as youth ambassadors uh and make it something that they really are proud of through our behavior health team who have been working diligently with them, uh not just in the schools but with other um athletic clubs and so on.

1:03:25

And so we're seeing uh an uptick in uh the youth participation uh over the past year or so.

1:03:32

And so obviously during the summertime going down, but we definitely uh have seen uh the uptick in uh participation for uh our school age children, definitely our high schoolers.

1:03:43

Uh and so we are looking forward to uh the next iteration of what this looks like with our youth ambassadors uh and not only working with them but their families as well to ensure that uh the message is really getting across uh that it starts at home.

1:03:57

And so we are really excited to be able to have the opportunity to work with the youth in academic.

1:04:03

Thank you.

1:04:04

Thank you all.

1:04:05

Member Waters.

1:04:07

All right, so thank you.

1:04:08

Um yes, Member Benson, they get it on, they smoke weed, they do all of that.

1:04:16

So I'm thinking we still need those in our can.

1:04:20

Uh machines outside, we've got to have them because we have lost some lives.

1:04:25

And I'm willing to start with the buildings, in particular, director.

1:04:29

I will walk you into every single one of them.

1:04:32

They know me well, and we've got to get that done.

1:04:36

And for those who live in their own homes, we have to come mail out some sort of pamphlet or something to them, a card uh to our seniors.

1:04:48

Um we uh we can use uh community centers such as St.

1:04:57

Patrick's.

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They see a lot of seniors on a regular basis.

1:05:01

That is a center that can help us out as well, and a lot of people who who come to St.

1:05:09

Patrick's come there from their own individual homes.

1:05:13

So we've got to utilize the resources that we have available to us so that we can look out for our seniors.

1:05:23

Uh I just want to ask you about ask you if you've done a um a charter mandated report on the health of Detroiters, or do you plan to do it in the future?

1:05:48

Thank you for once answer that.

1:05:51

Yes, um, thank you for those questions and through the chair to Councilmember Waters.

1:05:55

I want to address your three comments.

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One, you're absolutely right.

1:05:59

We need to place more Narcan in senior buildings, and that is part of our rollout um plan.

1:06:05

So we did uh thanks to the opioid settlement dollars, we did secure a couple hundred thousand dollars in funding for the health department to place Narcan wellness stations all across the city of Detroit.

1:06:18

I believe we have placed 50 so far, and I'll get those numbers for you.

1:06:22

Um, and they are primarily in the motels, um, in the um locations where we've had previous um uh opioid uh overdoses.

1:06:34

And so I will look at that data and I'll find out where each of those are placed.

1:06:38

I know they are also placed in some of the bus terminals as well in those Narcan uh wellness stations.

1:06:44

We're placing Narcan, fentanyl, test strips, and a few other supplies, but absolutely in senior buildings.

1:06:51

We would love to place those Narcan stations there.

1:06:54

Secondly, for St.

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Patrick's, you're absolutely right.

1:06:58

What we're launching next year, I mean we started it just a few weeks ago, uh, our senior walks and talks, and that's with the health department as well as myself.

1:07:07

So we but just last week uh we were at oh my goodness, we were at the um Chandler Field House with a group of seniors where we talked to them about their health and their wellness, and then we went on a walk for about a half a mile.

1:07:20

In January, we're going to St.

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Patrick's.

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That's already on the schedule, so we will invite you.

1:07:26

But at those senior walks and talks, we will also have Narcan there so that we can pass out to the residents.

1:07:33

And in answer to your annual health survey, so we um I believe we're scheduled, and Christina could talk about this at the budget hearing to provide an overview of our um of the health of our city, but we'll also have a special session where we will produce that document.

1:07:50

In addition, we have just completed our community health improvement plan, which will be done this week.

1:07:56

I just uh just signed my name, but it is an annual um assessment over over the last actually the last couple years.

1:08:04

Um we were able to assess about 6300 um residents, and we asked them what is a healthy Detroit look like to you.

1:08:11

So we put that into a document and we have our strategy uh for the next four years.

1:08:16

So happy to share that uh with you and your office.

1:08:19

I'll ask um Christina to jump in as well.

1:08:25

We most certainly will be having our uh state of the health by the city report uh for the charter every August uh starting next year.

1:08:35

So as then we stated, we'll definitely have in our budget uh presentation that information and moving forward, we will have it uh at the August uh meeting as well.

1:08:45

And so as for the charter, our community advisory board uh will be assisting with that information and making sure there is community input along with what we have of our community health assessment as well.

1:08:57

Okay.

1:08:58

Um I will also say let's utilize all of the rec centers where we know seniors go.

1:09:04

Uh Crow Well, Adams Buttle, uh Butzel on the east side.

1:09:09

Everybody, I'm pretty sure they're gonna be going to Helen Moore Center because that's what what they do, they need some space to relax.

1:09:17

So let's keep that in mind.

1:09:20

I am I'm concerned about seniors that are becoming homeless, are really in because that's additional stress to them.

1:09:32

So I wonder if there's um some work that we can do together that will help curtail some of that as a reason why or whatever.

1:09:42

I mean, I I just don't know what the answer is, but we do need to know because it puts them at an early death having that kind of stress.

1:09:53

Um so I wanted to highlight that.

1:09:56

I just have one other question.

1:10:00

The um the health department reps um about RX Kids.

1:10:07

Cities across Michigan are offering this program.

1:10:10

Governor Whitmer approved 250 million dollars to fund the program.

1:10:19

So, what are we doing about getting access?

1:10:23

Advocating for this program for us.

1:10:29

Absolutely.

1:10:30

Uh, thank you through the chair and to council member waters.

1:10:34

We are aware of RX for kids.

1:10:36

I believe it is a wonderful program uh for uh the state of Michigan as well as for the city of Detroit, and we currently have conversations, um, conversations are underway with um the RX for kids program to see how we could apply that um to the city of Detroit.

1:10:55

Um there are a lot of questions that we haven't been able to answer yet, but that's certainly um a part of our agenda, um, and we do want to make sure that we look into that as part of the next administration.

1:11:06

And and you know what, director, they need to approve it.

1:11:10

This city is a highest has the highest priority rate in this country.

1:11:16

I don't want to hear anything from Governor Whitman, but they can't what they can't do.

1:11:20

We need those dollars to help on children.

1:11:23

Now if you need me to go find or I will so I I just want to thank you, but you are working on how soon do you have when we have an answer?

1:11:34

So we are also working with um council member Callaway on this as well.

1:11:37

We had a meeting scheduled for the RX for kids team, and it was canceled.

1:11:41

Um so I believe it's rescheduled.

1:11:43

I'd have to look at my calendar, but we are anxious to meet with RX for kids and their team, and we want to see how we could apply that to the city of Detroit.

1:11:50

I realize that there is a funding aspect, so we would have to raise matching funds, which is a uh very large commitment for the city of Detroit.

1:12:00

Um, but again, we are you know, this is definitely top of mind.

1:12:03

We want to offer this for the city of Detroit, but there are a few questions that we need answered before we move forward.

1:12:08

And in full disclosure, that question came from Member Calloway.

1:12:13

Thank you, Ryan.

1:12:13

Thank thank you, madam chair.

1:12:15

Thank you, Member Waters.

1:12:17

Thank you, everyone.

1:12:18

I appreciate the question, Member Waters.

1:12:20

I think there are a lot of us that are anxious to get the program here in the city.

1:12:24

Um, and thank you again for the work that you do.

1:12:27

Really appreciate it.

1:12:28

Um, and hope to be able to do a few of these um next year as well.

1:12:31

Have it be a regular cadence um in this committee.

1:12:34

So thank you all.

1:12:36

Uh with that, I will now wrap up our 1020 a.m.

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discussion for today, and move us along to our 11 a.m.

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public hearing.

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For our 11 a.m.

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public hearing.

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This is to amend chapter 41 of the 2019 Detroit City Code, second hand goods.

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One by amending Article 1, junk dealers, junk vehicles, and junk collectors, division one generally by amending and renaming sections 41-1-6, records to be kept, examination of certain articles by police departments or designated enforcement officer, and by amending sections 41-1-7, junk purchased or exchanged, exceptions, retention, and tagging.

1:13:18

I don't mind automated recycling kiosk, storage and retention, preparation and delivery of record and purchases and exchanges, burden of proof and reference junk dealers' duty to comply with electronic reporting requirements provided in this ordinance to indicate recorded information that is to be included in junk dealers' electronic records and to make other technical corrections too by amending Article 2 pawn brokers, division one, generally sections 41-2-3, record of property received contents inspections by amending and renaming sections 41-2-4, statements of property received contents to reference pawn brokers, duty to comply with electronic reporting requirements provided in this ordinance, and to indicate recorded information that is included in pawnbrokers' electronic reports.

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Three by amending Article 3, Precious Metal and Gem Dealers, Division 1 generally by amending and renaming sections 41-3-4 records to be kept by dealer to reference precious metals and gem dealers' duty to comply with electronic reporting requirements provided in this ordinance, and to indicate recorded information that is to be included in precious metal and gem dealers' electronic reports.

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Four by amending Article 4 Scrap Metal Dealers, like Division 1, generally sections 41-4-9, duties of scrap metal dealers and sellers in purchase transaction, and by amending and renaming sections 41-4-10, payment methods to offer certain purchase transactions, electronic database, duties of scrap metal dealer upon implementation and operation of database payments in sections 41-4-11, record of purchase transactions, preparation and maintenance, duration, location, availability for inspection, contents, exception, use for electronic record keeping.

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Four by amending Article 4 scrap metal dealers division 1, generally sections 41-4-9, duties of scrap metal dealers and sellers in purchase transaction, and by amending and renaming sections 41-4-10, payment methods to offer certain purchase transactions, electronic database, duties of scrap metal dealer upon implementation and operation of database payments in sections 41-4-11, record of purchase transactions, preparation and maintenance duration, location, availability for inspection, contents, exception, use for electronic record keeping that is a typo, uh use for electronic record keeping to reference scrap metal dealers' duty to comply with electronic reporting requirements provided in this ordinance to clarify that electronic reporting requirements provided in this ordinance are independent from state law requirements applicable to scrap metal dealers to indicate recorded information that is to be included in scrap metal dealers electronic reports to update internal cross-references to make other technical corrections five by amending article five used building materials dealers division one generally by amending and renaming sections 41-5-4 records to be kept by dealers by amending sections 41-5-5, tags to be attached to articles by dealers at time of purchase and sections 41-5-6, dealer to report to police, and by amending and renaming sections 41-5-8, articles to be held 15 days after purchase before sale to update record keeping and article retention requirements for used building materials dealers to be consistent with applicable state law, to include applicable state law restrictions on payment methods for purchases by used building materials dealers, to reference used building materials dealers' duty to comply with electronic reporting requirements provided in this ordinance to indicate recorded information that is to be included in used building materials dealers electronic reports, and to make other technical corrections.

1:16:52

By amending Article 6, used motor vehicle dealers, used vehicle parts dealers, and automotive automobile dismantling and wrecking yards, division two, used motor vehicle dealers, subdivision one generally by amending and renaming sections 41-6-22, records and titles to be kept, amending division three, used vehicle parts dealers, subdivision one, generally by amending and renaming sections 41-6-63, records to be kept and amending division four, automobile dismantling and wrecking yards, subdivision one generally, by amending and renaming sections 41-6-103, records to be kept to reference duty of used motor vehicle dealers, used vehicle part dealers, and automobile dismantling and wrecking yards to comply with electronic reporting requirements provided in this ordinance, and to indicate recorded information that is to be included, used motor vehicle dealers, used vehicle parts dealers, and automobile dismantling and wrecking yards electronic reports.

1:17:58

In seven, by amending Article 7, used good goods dealers, division one, generally by amending and renaming sections 41-7-5, record of purchases, police departments and building safety and engineering and environmental departments to have access to same at all times by amending sections 41-7-6 reports of purchases, separate report for purchases and sale of bicycles, and sections 41-7-7, tag to be attached to purchased articles, by amending and renaming sections 41-7-11, purchase articles not to be sold or removed until 15 days after purchase to update record keeping and article retention requirements for used good dealers to be consistent with applicable state law to include applicable state law restrictions on payment methods for purchases to be used by goods dealers to reference any used good dealers' duty to comply with electronic reporting requirements provided in this ordinance to indicate recorded information that is to be included in used good dealers electronic reports and to make other technical corrections.

1:19:11

By amending Article 8's used tire sales and service, scrap tire storage and scrap tire processing and recycling division one, generally by amending and renaming sections 41-8-5, records to be kept to reference duty of use tire sales and service businesses, scrap tire storage businesses, and scrap tire processing and recycling businesses to comply with electronic reporting requirements provided in this ordinance, and to indicates recorded information that is to be included in used tire sales and service businesses electronic reports, and to make other technical corrections, and nine, by amending Article 9, electronic reporting requirements, consistence of sections 41-9-1, purpose of scope, sections 41-2, excuse me, sections 41-9-2, definitions, sections 41-9-3, misdemeanor violations, continuing violations, penalties for conviction thereof, and sections 41 9-4, electronic reporting systems, sections 41 9 5, duties of secondhand goods dealers, electronic reporting requirements, and sections 41 9 6, duties of police departments to direct the police department to designate and implement.

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And nine, by amending Article 9, electronic reporting requirements, consistence of sections 41-9-1, purpose of scope, sections 41-2, excuse me, sections 41-9-2, definitions, sections 41-9-3, misdemeanor violations, continuing violations, penalties for conviction thereof, and sections 41-9-4, electronic reporting systems, sections 41-9-5, duties of secondhand goods dealers, electronic reporting requirements, and sections 41-9-6.

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Duties of police departments to direct the police department to designate and implements an electronic reporting system to be used for reporting transactions involving secondhand goods to require the businesses to register with a designated electronic reporting system and electronically report information pertaining to transactions involving secondhand goods and to provide penalties for failure to comply with the electronic reporting requirements.

1:20:51

End of title.

1:20:53

With that, I see we've been joined by Mr.

1:20:56

Anwinu.

1:20:58

I will turn it over now to the administration to introduce yourselves and let us know what is before us.

1:21:19

Thank you for taking the time and for the attention in both reading out that very uh detailed ordinance language and for taking the time uh to speak offline about the impact of this ordinance.

1:21:34

In short, uh this second hand goods electronic reporting ordinance seeks to make it easier for DPD to um to understand where stolen goods, where potentially stolen goods are coming from, where they're being sold out of, so that we can reduce the amount of junk and scrap metal, water heater, auto, and other types of theft that currently um is sold in the city of Detroit.

1:22:02

So, as mentioned earlier, this ordinance seeks to require all of the existing material that secondhand goods dealers are required to keep in their records, and it modernizes our current requirements by making sure that that information is kept electronically.

1:22:20

Currently, there is a lot of information that these secondhand goods dealers have to keep, uh, both at the state level and at the local at the city level, but that information is often not kept, or it's kept in written records where um it's not of use for DPD and tracking and holding and making sure to reduce the amount of stolen goods that are being uh sold in the city of Detroit.

1:22:43

So I can get a little bit more detailed, but want to give Lieutenant Nathan Miller a chance to introduce himself as well and speak a little bit about the ordinance.

1:22:51

Okay, thank you.

1:22:53

Good morning to the chair.

1:22:54

Um, Lieutenant Nathan Miller, currently assigned to Detroit Police Department Auto Theft Unit.

1:22:58

And uh, like Justin said, really, the goal of this is to modernize the record keeping and ensure that the department has uh a method in which we can want to ensure that uh secondhand goods dealers are properly documenting everything.

1:23:15

Um currently the method that uh is required by ordinance is um uh uh a hand kept book essentially.

1:23:25

So we want to ensure that we have that modernized in all in electronic format so that we can ensure that secondhand goods dealers are um properly following the ordinance.

1:23:35

Um yeah, thank you, Justin.

1:23:37

If you want to get into additional detail, yep, a couple of details of note.

1:23:42

Um, number one is that uh DPD is required under this ordinance to designate and implement and manage an electronic reporting platform.

1:23:52

Typically, that platform would be something like leads online, which the police department already has access to.

1:23:58

Um, secondly, uh, this ordinance provides a window to make sure that DPD and the designated reporting platform are providing the sort of onboarding services, technical assistance to make sure that these businesses have all the information and help they need to um get on the platform.

1:24:17

This ordinance doesn't seek to be um heavy-handed or overly um uh rushing, and and we understand that some businesses are more familiar with technology than others, and so this ordinance provides that transition period to make sure that people can get on board with the platform.

1:24:35

Um, additionally, when businesses are registered with this platform, they'll have to submit digital transaction reports.

1:24:42

So this would include information like a description of the item that's being sold, uh, sort of descriptions of the payment method, the transaction time, and Lieutenant Miller can get a little bit more into this, but in the event that an item um that the DPD knows was stolen, it would allow uh DPD to check the system, see if an item with that same ID number has been inputted into the system, and if it does, would allow uh DPD to place a hold um on the selling of that item.

1:25:00

But in the event that an item um that the DPD knows was stolen, it would allow uh DPD to check the system, see if an item with that same ID number has been inputted into the system.

1:25:06

And if it does, would allow uh DPD to place a hold um on the selling of that item.

1:25:11

So requires that this electronic system be kept, provides a transition window to allow businesses to get on board, requires that items are um entered into this system.

1:25:22

Also, this ordinance provides um um contingencies for if due to Wi-Fi or power outage or other reasons uh the system or the internet goes down um so that we're not being overly uh heavy handed on businesses if something has gone wrong that's out of their control.

1:25:42

Um lastly, uh some of the items that were discussed in our previous time before this committee and from uh members of your staff and and member waters as well.

1:25:54

We had some questions about the number of businesses that would be impacted, about how DPD and BC will be going about contacting these businesses and what that engagement has looked like thus far.

1:26:05

Um, and then just generally um addressing any concerns that have been brought up.

1:26:09

So this ordinance will have uh we've had a fiscal impact analysis that I believe Mr.

1:26:14

Washington sent to all of your offices.

1:26:17

Um there will not be any net uh impact um on a fiscal level.

1:26:22

This platform will be free for uh businesses to use, and it will tie into the existing subscription that the police department already has.

1:26:32

Um, and additionally, um, you know, we anticipate you know heavy engagement through leads online and through the police department and making sure that people can get onboarded properly.

1:26:44

Now we'll leave it there.

1:26:46

Awesome.

1:26:47

Thank you.

1:26:48

I appreciate the overview.

1:26:49

Um my questions were answered around the system, the costs, the impacts and the implementation for businesses.

1:26:56

So thank you.

1:26:57

Um wondering, colleagues, are there any questions regarding this ordinance, Vice Chair?

1:27:02

Thank you.

1:27:03

Um, I've had conversations and my questions have been answered.

1:27:05

I feel comfortable.

1:27:07

The uh concern that we heard in the past was just ensuring that the actual regulate um have been made aware, have been engaged, and will be educated on how to properly use the system.

1:27:22

Thank you.

1:27:23

Thank you.

1:27:24

Same here.

1:27:26

Hearing no other questions, we can go into public comments, excuse me, for this 11 a.m.

1:27:31

public hearing.

1:27:32

Are there any people here in the public that are here to make general or are here to make a public comments regarding the 11 a.m.

1:27:39

public hearing?

1:27:40

Seeing none.

1:27:41

We will turn it over to the folks that we have online.

1:27:43

If you are online now, please raise your hand.

1:27:45

I will be cutting off public comments in one minute.

1:27:48

Please raise your hand now if you would like to make public comments regarding our 11 a.m.

1:27:54

public hearing regarding secondhand goods.

1:27:57

This is regarding the secondhand goods registry, really, between our sellers and DPD.

1:28:06

I will be cutting off public comment going once.

1:28:10

Cutting off public comment going twice.

1:28:14

Public comments for our 11 a.m.

1:28:16

public hearing is now cut off.

1:28:19

I will give everyone one minute to ask any questions, give us any feedback, any concerns that you might have regarding the second hand goods ordinance.

1:28:30

And then we can continue discussion regarding this item.

1:28:36

But with that, Ms.

1:28:37

Duncan, how many hands do we have raised?

1:28:41

And whenever you're ready, we'll give everyone one minute.

1:28:49

And we can get started with whoever we have first.

1:28:53

Madam Chair, there are currently nine hands raised.

1:28:57

The first caller being owner Papa.

1:29:08

Good morning, and through the chair, Carolyn Hughes, may I be heard?

1:29:11

Yes, good morning.

1:29:12

Good morning.

1:29:14

Uh again, much to do about nothing.

1:29:17

I think the the ordinance is too sweeping and it and and it I can't see how it won't involve or engage uh more work on the on on behalf of BCID and the police department to regulate or enforce these things.

1:29:33

Um I want to know how they're originally, how are they reporting now?

1:29:38

And uh is everything going to be automated?

1:29:40

Because it would seem to me that it would cause uh more work for people to execute this.

1:29:46

And if your whole purpose is to uh quail uh um secondhand um auto theft part being sold, why don't we just focus on that and and change the ordinance for that particular one for reporting and and see if we can catch you know dealers doing that?

1:30:03

Otherwise, it's a little bit too sweeping and too broad, and I believe that we should have been able to ask questions of the health department, and thank you, uh Ms.

1:30:11

Waters for asking uh pertinent questions.

1:30:14

Thank you.

1:30:15

Thank you, and just a reminder we are only speaking regarding the secondhand goods ordinance that we just spoke about.

1:30:20

Thank you.

1:30:21

Who do we have next?

1:30:22

The next caller is Cindy Dara.

1:30:32

Cindy, you're up next.

1:30:37

Dara, if you're speaking, we cannot hear you.

1:30:40

Yeah, can you hear me now?

1:30:41

Yes, we can't.

1:30:42

Okay.

1:30:43

Um I just want to reiterate what Carolyn said.

1:30:48

Uh if as far as the health department.

1:30:51

All right, I'm gonna stop you there, and I will um welcome people back to speak for general public comments if we make general comments.

1:31:00

Um, please just remember to stick to the 11 a.m.

1:31:03

public hearing regarding second hand goods.

1:31:05

And if you start to make generalized comments, again, I welcome you to join us tomorrow during formal session.

1:31:10

Ms.

1:31:11

Dar, I'll give you back your time to discuss the second hand goods ordinance whenever you're ready.

1:31:21

Yeah, uh that's fine, you know, but it seems to me that you're concentrating on punishment.

1:31:28

That's what our government tries to do.

1:31:32

What we need to do is encourage people to create more secondhand stuff when they turn down good old housing that has wood that's better than you'll ever get today.

1:31:45

It's old growth wood, and that should be uh encouraged.

1:31:49

You're what you're doing is trying to go around and tell people what they gotta do, or they'll get fined or you know, get knocked by the police department or whatever.

1:31:59

I you know, I'm tired of punishment.

1:32:02

You if you want to get out of this hole, you've got to create something besides punishment.

1:32:08

You gotta create something that rewards people, not punishing, and you spend so much time regulating our speech.

1:32:18

Thank you, Miss Dara.

1:32:22

Next caller is William M.

1:32:24

Davis.

1:32:27

Uh good morning.

1:32:28

Can I be heard?

1:32:29

Yes, good morning.

1:32:31

Okay, I like to say that I'm pleased to see that they are moving more so towards electronic information being available and being able to post it and transfer it.

1:32:40

I was also wondering, I didn't hear anything about is there any other communities or a statewide network that they could also possibly plug into so that we know when uh vehicles are being stolen and chopped up in the city of Detroit and the parts are going outside the city of Detroit, especially the communities around us.

1:32:58

I would like to know if there's any plans to help to establish a statewide network where information could be retrieved and hopefully do something to help lower this massive auto insurance we pay in the city of Detroit.

1:33:15

Thank you.

1:33:16

Thank you.

1:33:20

The next caller is Miss Warwick, Miss Warwick, you're up next.

1:33:35

If you're speaking, we cannot hear you.

1:33:53

Okay, yeah.

1:33:54

So you know, I I think there's something there there are issues to be um but I think that uh if you're if this is about auto theft, I agree with the other caller.

1:34:18

Make it about auto theft.

1:34:19

Don't make it so broad.

1:34:22

And my thought was you're talking about it.

1:34:26

Um is what about DPD response time and to theft victims?

1:34:32

I mean, a lot of people don't even bother to call the police anymore because they just like in my experience in the past have not responded to BE coughs, or even that uh uh the evidence of auto theft and and and there's just but what about the response to the theft victims?

1:34:54

You're creating busy work for people.

1:35:00

The next caller is caller number ending one two four.

1:35:10

Caller ending in one two four, you up next.

1:35:17

Caller ending in one two four, you have been unmuted.

1:35:21

We'll have to add you to the bottom of the queue.

1:35:26

Who was our next caller?

1:35:28

The next caller's caller number ending five three four.

1:35:36

Five three four.

1:35:41

Caller ending in five three four.

1:35:44

We still cannot hear you.

1:35:52

All right, caller ending in five three four.

1:35:54

We're gonna add you to the bottom of the queue.

1:36:00

The next caller is Miko A.

1:36:01

Williams.

1:36:05

Can you hear me?

1:36:06

Yes, we can.

1:36:07

Okay, this is too broad.

1:36:09

Uh if it's just gonna be for auto theft, it should be just for auto theft.

1:36:14

I know Z men Jewelie alone and uh American Bond, let's go.

1:36:19

They're not taking stolen product.

1:36:21

It's some of half of the um scrapyard and small pawn uh owners through uh uh independent transaction.

1:36:29

You need to crack down more on the on those type of uh uh activity uh before you try to come after a business, which you should already have laws and statutes of plate to have a registry of businesses on shop, grab yard auto uh yards that have uh uh registered property, and uh they don't have to do it through the business.

1:36:55

They could go on Facebook marketplace to trade stolen property.

1:36:58

Detroit belief needs to do more.

1:37:00

And Ms.

1:37:00

Gabrielle, you should have had a comment during the health department pre-statement.

1:37:05

You were out of order to that man.

1:37:07

Thanks.

1:37:08

Thank you.

1:37:09

Who do we have next?

1:37:11

The next caller is not that Karen.

1:37:17

Hello.

1:37:18

Yes, we can hear you.

1:37:20

Yes, yeah, thank you for my time.

1:37:23

60 seconds.

1:37:24

Um, we definitely need to uh step into the current time uh of technology when it comes to a secondhand um goods.

1:37:33

Um anybody that comes in to purchase or to pawn um something secondhand should have to give their driver's license, which can be scanned.

1:37:43

We have the barcodes on the back of the driver's licenses, so I don't see why it's not already automated.

1:37:48

It that's a simple thing to do, it's just verifying someone's um identity.

1:37:53

So I think we need to do that.

1:37:55

We need to scan that.

1:37:56

I'm sure there's a broad database that leaks at links everyone uh by their driver's uh their personal identification.

1:38:04

So I think um it is very broad, but I think we can narrow down this um this mole uh mountain to a molehill by simply taking copies and scanning in the uh driver's license or personal identity identification cards.

1:38:18

Thank you.

1:38:20

Thank you.

1:38:22

We're gonna go back to caller number ending one two four caller ending in one two four.

1:38:33

You have been made a panelist, you just have to unmute yourself.

1:38:38

Unfortunately, we cannot hear you.

1:38:41

So I will invite you to send over your comments to us directly if you wouldn't mind sending those via email.

1:38:48

I believe the last caller we have is caller ending in five three four.

1:38:52

That is correct, madam chair.

1:38:53

Caller ending in five three four, you're up next.

1:38:57

You have been made a panelist, you just have to unmute yourself.

1:39:02

Caller ending in five three four.

1:39:09

It sounds like buttons are being pushed, but we cannot hear you.

1:39:14

And you are unmuted, and you have been made a panelist on our ends.

1:39:20

Okay, unfortunately, I too have to invite you to send over your comments via email, give our offices a call, but I will now move us along to the rest of the discussion, given that being our final caller.

1:39:32

Uh to the administration, there were a number of questions that I heard.

1:39:36

Um, really the the first one being why are we doing this now?

1:39:40

Why is this why is this so broad?

1:39:42

Um, and really what is the the target here through the chair, happy happy to answer that question and and Lieutenant Miller, please uh join as well.

1:39:52

The the goal of this ordinance really is not to focus on one particular type of item that gets sold and maybe potentially be stolen or to burden businesses that are selling.

1:40:04

I'm sure it's difficult to hear the presenter.

1:40:08

To IT, we can hear everyone else except for Mr.

1:40:11

Anwinu.

1:40:12

So I'm not sure, Justin, if there's if you're using a mic or something around those lines, but it is difficult to hear you in particular.

1:40:22

Okay.

1:40:22

Can you hear me now?

1:40:23

It's a little better.

1:40:24

You might have to do that.

1:40:25

You might have to speak loudly into your mic.

1:40:28

Okay.

1:40:29

The goal really of this ordinance is not to target secondhand goods sellers or to narrowly focus on a particular type of good.

1:40:37

The goal really is to again take the requirements that already exist, whether they be scrap metal related, um, water heater related, tires, auto or or other materials, and to bring our current requirements into the modern age so that it's easier to stop um bad behavior before it continues to move forward.

1:41:00

So um the ordinance maybe based on the title sounds a lot more broad than really what it is.

1:41:06

And again, the focus is focusing on all of the licenses under Chapter 41, which yes include you know vehicle parts, but also junk and scrap metal, um, gym dealers, use building materials dealers, and really the goal is to make sure that those businesses that are already abiding by the rules, already keeping great records that that is reflected.

1:41:31

Um in the way that we can do that is is through an electronic reporting system.

1:41:35

I also saw or heard mention of connecting this with a broader system.

1:41:40

So there are other cities that do this, Chicago, Accra, Newport, other cities, but currently the state doesn't have a similar requirement.

1:41:48

I know member waters um as a representative was focused a lot on uh scrap metal dealers and setting the infrastructure on that front.

1:41:56

So maybe um there are ways in which our state laws could be updated on that front, but really at a local level, there is great opportunity for us to make sure that DPD has the tools to make sure that when materials are stolen, that they have the tools um to respond accordingly.

1:42:14

I don't know, Lieutenant Miller, if you have um anything to add on that front.

1:42:20

Justin, I appreciate it.

1:42:21

And and really your comments are correct.

1:42:24

The goal is not just to simply focus on auto theft or um scrap metal.

1:42:32

The goal is to focus on all secondhand goods and to ensure that the reporting requirements that already exist under state law and ordinance are easier for the department to um ensure they're being followed.

1:42:48

It's not feasible with current personnel to send an officer to every single secondhand goods dealer in the city and ensure that they are properly keeping a book with this new platform that makes it easier on the department to see what transactions have been reported by what dealers, and to ensure that we can then target the personnel to um follow up at um goods dealers that are not in compliance to determine if they're just one not aware of how to do it, or two if if there's blatant acts that are um being done to not input it at which time enforcement could be taken thank you.

1:43:37

And I know Mr.

1:43:39

Anwini mentioned that sounds like Detroit will be the first one moving forward in this way in the states, but to that question of the larger network to tap into regarding other stolen goods that um might have been identified.

1:43:56

Is that being worked on through the states?

1:43:57

Is that something that we will be able to um tap into, or are we going to be um currently the only city in the state doing this work?

1:44:13

Um the chair, we I I'm not aware of any um plans that we've made yet to address this on the state level.

1:44:21

We're starting here on the local level to see how it goes.

1:44:24

Um, but I don't believe we're the only um city that has pushed this.

1:44:30

I believe Warren has also pushed this already.

1:44:34

Um and then I I recall there was a uh a caller that mentioned that this would be an extra burden on Ziedmans or somebody like that.

1:44:44

Zmans already uses leads online.

1:44:46

They had that they already use this system for their reporting.

1:44:49

So it it's not like we're um adding uh a new uh requirement to them because this is already what they're using for their reporting.

1:44:56

Okay.

1:44:58

And my question might have not been clear.

1:45:01

I was not asking about whether or not we were going to do this for the West for the rest of the states.

1:45:05

Um I'm just I I'm not a professional in this topic, and I'm learning about who's doing this, who does not, what the system currently looks like, and my question was more about a a statewide system.

1:45:18

Does that exist?

1:45:23

So currently there is not a statewide system.

1:45:25

Um this is the the system that we are looking to implement is the system that is used by several individuals in the state already.

1:45:34

Okay, but I I'm not aware of a statewide system at this time.

1:45:38

Got it.

1:45:38

Okay, because the question was asked about the potential asset that that could bring is if we're able to tap into a statewide system.

1:45:48

Um, but okay.

1:45:50

Um the the only other question um that I have that I heard was really around where is the carrots?

1:45:58

This is definitely the stick.

1:46:00

Are there any efforts to curb this um selling of stolen um of goods, or um are we just seeing this as as the the real means to try to um uh uh disencourage or or continue to not encourage people to sell stolen goods through the through the through the chair go right ahead?

1:46:31

I will say the the goal really is not and I uh and I heard from the public comment that there was a concern about whether this was punitive to people who are engaged in selling of secondhand goods or for businesses that are engaged in that selling, and that really is not the goal at all.

1:46:49

Um there are existing requirements that these businesses already have to keep up, and so this is not placing an extra burden on them, but rather making it easier given the resource limitations, staff limitations, it makes it easier for B seed and for DPD to make sure that everyone is abiding by the rules that are already on the book.

1:47:10

Um, and so our goal really is not to be punitive to businesses that are already required to keep this information, and this ordinance does not touch on um you know additional requirements that are or or burdens that we'd like to place on individuals who are engaged in secondhand goods either.

1:47:30

So the goal really is not to be punitive at all, it really is to make it easier um to keep this information and also as in response to many residents who express frustration with you know you can register your bike or XYZ material with the police department um with your VIN number with your ID.

1:47:50

And so when people say my bike was stolen and they reported it, it can be very frustrating and difficult for residents to get any answers about where that material might have gone.

1:48:01

And so this system may make it easier to be responsive to those residents' needs.

1:48:06

So we don't anticipate that this is a burden for businesses for the department itself or for residents.

1:48:12

Um we expect the opposite.

1:48:14

Okay, thank you.

1:48:16

I hear no other questions from myself and my member waters.

1:48:22

Okay, um, just a couple things.

1:48:25

One, I uh I do hope we can get a handle on some of these deals, and I'm not accusing all of them of taking parts that they should not take.

1:48:38

That's what I'm looking forward to.

1:48:40

And we've been trying this for a long time.

1:48:43

Uh introduced a bill at the state level.

1:48:46

It has just been very, very difficult to get this done.

1:48:52

That's number one.

1:48:54

Uh number number two.

1:48:57

And I might have missed this, I don't know, uh, madam chair, but through you um to him.

1:49:04

Um what about the comment that this miss uh Miss Karen made regarding the stickers on on the ID?

1:49:17

Through the chair?

1:49:19

Yep, go right ahead.

1:49:20

So yes, so um identification, you know, that was a great um flag by um by Miss Karen.

1:49:29

That information would be kept as well through this electronic system.

1:49:33

It will.

1:49:34

Yes, ma'am.

1:49:35

All right, I like that.

1:49:37

Thank you.

1:49:37

See a lot of times we get very good suggestions from our constituents.

1:49:42

Thank you.

1:49:42

Thank you, madam chair.

1:49:44

Thank you, Member Waters.

1:49:45

Are there any other questions for our proposed ordinance hearing?

1:49:52

None.

1:49:52

Is there a motion for chapter 41 ordinance?

1:50:05

Excuse me, colleagues.

1:50:06

I apologize, but we need a motion to there's a motion to move the formal with a recommendation to approve new business.

1:50:16

There's a motion to send this proposed ordinance to new business with a recommendation to approve.

1:50:22

Hearing no objections, this ordinance will be sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

1:50:28

Thank you both for being here.

1:50:31

Thank you.

1:50:32

Moving us along.

1:50:33

Thank you both moving us along.

1:50:34

Thank you, colleagues.

1:50:36

To under unfinished business.

1:50:40

This is a request to accept and appropriate the fiscal year 2025 Airports Improvement Program Block grants.

1:50:49

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 7.1?

1:50:53

Motion to approve discussion.

1:50:55

Vice Chair.

1:50:56

Just uh through yourself to the administration.

1:50:58

Do we have a dedicated um line item for the reimbursement?

1:51:03

The reason I asked for this to come back last week, which is asking what was the source of the initial funding that will be reimbursed by the grant.

1:51:12

Mr.

1:51:13

Washington.

1:51:14

Yes, good morning, madam chair and committee.

1:51:16

If we can promote director Jason Watt.

1:51:20

We can make them into a panelist.

1:51:27

He's a panelist on screen, Madam Chair.

1:51:30

Thank you.

1:51:30

Uh good morning.

1:51:32

If you wouldn't mind seeing your name and uh title for the record.

1:51:35

Jason Watt, Airport Director.

1:51:37

Good to see you, Director.

1:51:39

Vice Chair.

1:51:40

Uh thank you.

1:51:41

Um Director Watt, just do we have the source of funding that will make the initial expenditure that will be reimbursed by this grant.

1:51:50

The it was it was our airport layout plan.

1:51:54

Uh the the air airport layout plan.

1:51:56

Uh we we did some uh advanced um design uh for the engineer material resting system uh program that took us to 60 percent and uh this is so yes we do have a line item I don't have it on me right now, but there is a line item that shows us reimbursed, it's not reimbursed dollar for dollar though, so we would have to extrapolate for you exactly what this reimbursement would would uh would cover.

1:52:21

I mean the reimbursable funds are coming from the general fund that we're using to for the for success expenditure.

1:52:28

So the expenditures is a federal grant.

1:52:30

We're actually receiving funds back from previous funds expended.

1:52:36

Yes, and those previous funds expended are coming from your general fund line item.

1:52:41

They were, yes, when they were expended some two years ago, yes, sir.

1:52:45

Okay, thank you.

1:52:46

That's the source.

1:52:47

Thank you very much.

1:52:48

Okay, thank you.

1:52:49

There was a motion to discuss.

1:52:51

Is there a motion to approve to new business?

1:52:53

Hearing no objection, seven points one will be approved, sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

1:52:59

Thank you, Director.

1:53:01

Thank you, madam chair.

1:53:03

Moving us along seven points two through seven point four.

1:53:06

These are all various memos.

1:53:08

7.2 is a memo relative to a resolution to support access to city water for Detroit urban farmers.

1:53:18

7.3 is a memo relative to request for resolution in support of SB 701 and SB 702.

1:53:28

And 7.4 is a memo relative to request for resolution in support of SB 329.

1:53:34

All of these memos have a resolution that has been completed.

1:53:37

Is there a motion to receive and file 7.2 through 7.4?

1:53:42

Motion hearing no objections, these items would be will be received and filed.

1:53:49

Oh, I did not close the public hearing.

1:53:52

I would like to close our 11 a.m.

1:53:55

public hearing.

1:53:57

Move us along to the rest of the agenda.

1:54:00

Thank you.

1:54:05

Moving us along to the rest of the agenda, and just to note again that ordinance was moved to new business.

1:54:11

Item 7.1 as well, and we'll need a motion for 7.2 through 7.4 to be approved to new business.

1:54:19

Motion hearing no objection, 7.2 through 7.4 will be approved, sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

1:54:28

7.5.

1:54:29

This is uh a memo relative to a request for resolution concerning SB.

1:54:35

611 and 612.

1:54:39

Discussion.

1:54:40

Vice Chair.

1:54:47

Oh, you're correct.

1:54:48

You're you're absolutely correct.

1:54:50

Yes.

1:54:50

So 7.2 through 7.4 will be received and filed.

1:54:54

LPD.

1:55:00

My I don't know what the proponents of those results want, but I I was instructed by my director that the request was that they be advanced to the formal for tomorrow for new business.

1:55:06

The memory have to be here or they or they die.

1:55:09

The memos.

1:55:10

The resos that are provided pursuant to the resos, which but there's no other agenda item for the resos.

1:55:16

So I just don't want the I don't want the record to reflect that the resos have been received and filed as opposed to forwarded.

1:55:22

So for 7.2, 3 and 4.

1:55:25

I see that the resolutions have been completed.

1:55:29

We can keep the memos.

1:55:32

Discussion.

1:55:33

But the resolutions have been completed.

1:55:35

Those are going to be moved forward.

1:55:36

Vice Chair.

1:55:40

The resolutions will need to be forwarded.

1:55:42

Those are not part of this line item, if I'm not mistaken, those are later.

1:55:45

Correct.

1:55:47

Ms.

1:55:47

Duncan.

1:55:48

Through the chair.

1:55:49

So the memos are seven item seven point two through seven point four.

1:55:55

However, the resolutions that attached to those res to the memos associated with them are not on the agenda.

1:56:01

Um so they would have to be walked on to be then forwarded to formal session.

1:56:06

There is a memo that has a resolution on the agenda, I believe later on, like 7.7, but that is not the one the items discussion for right now.

1:56:16

Okay.

1:56:17

And is there a preference then that we receive and file and then those be walked on tomorrow or do we move these out and then they are in place of the resolution?

1:56:32

But as far as I know, these can be walked on, Vice Chair.

1:56:36

Um more than happy to move these to formal.

1:56:39

We just need to have the resolutions.

1:56:41

The memos need to be disposed of here.

1:56:44

But if we don't have the resolutions, if they will be prepared today, we could walk those on and move forward.

1:56:49

If they'll be ready tomorrow, we can make that request that a president's office, or you can as a chair.

1:56:55

But just procedurally, I believe we got to receive and file these memos and then deal with the uh resos separately.

1:57:01

I agree, LPD.

1:57:03

Through the chair, the resolutions are prepared.

1:57:04

They're they've been posted on e scribe and they're on our division's web page, and we forward I forwarded the links uh when they were ready.

1:57:11

They weren't due till Saturday.

1:57:13

This is of course because it's the end of the session, and we have things prepared on Friday, and then we do them on Monday.

1:57:18

So I don't have a preference for how do you do it to answer your question previously, Madam Chair.

1:57:23

Madam Clerk.

1:57:25

Through the chair, does the clerk office have these resolutions?

1:57:31

As far as I know, because they're posted on e scribes.

1:57:34

So it's my understanding that at that point they do have them.

1:57:36

That's not my responsibility.

1:57:37

So if my understanding is incorrect, I apologize.

1:57:40

But my understanding is the answer is yes.

1:57:42

Okay.

1:57:43

So if they're on e-scribe, I believe we can just walk them on today.

1:57:47

Um they would need to be, I think it'd be helpful to print the resolutions out to have those.

1:57:53

I'm not sure, Madam Clerk, that's something that the clerk's office can help us with.

1:57:57

Is there somebody in the building or through the chair?

1:58:00

When something is walked on, it's usually given to us at the table to walk it on, so we would have it in our possession, and we will note that it was received at the table.

1:58:09

I have not received anything at the table.

1:58:11

Okay, no worries.

1:58:13

Well, I think what we can do is um ask my staff to help us identify these three uh the resolutions, print those out for us to vote it out uh by the end of this session, walk them on, vote them to formal tomorrow so that we don't have to worry about the walk-ons then.

1:58:33

So we're gonna go ahead and do that.

1:58:35

Um soven point two through seven point four will be received and filed.

1:58:42

We will print those resolutions, bring them to this table so that we vote them out to committee tomorrow.

1:58:49

So if the clerk can please note that those items have to be completed before we leave today, please.

1:58:56

Thank you.

1:58:57

And my team can work on that at the back end.

1:59:01

But that's for 7.5.

1:59:04

Um I believe Ms.

1:59:07

Duncan, we do we should receive this is already on the agenda for today.

1:59:11

If not, we will need to also walk on this resolution.

1:59:18

Um no, madam chair.

1:59:20

First for line item 7.5, that item is um later down on the under new business, so you can receive and file.

1:59:26

You don't have to walk it on.

1:59:27

Okay, thank you.

1:59:28

So for 7.5, this is a memo relative to request for resolution concerning SB 611 and 612.

1:59:36

We do have the resolution on this agenda.

1:59:39

So 7.5 without objection can be received and filed.

1:59:43

Motion 7.5 will be received and filed hearing no objections, moving us along.

1:59:48

7.6.

1:59:49

This is contract number 6007 161, utilizing 100% grant funding to provide a complete video and camera system for the D Ddock bus fleets.

2:00:00

This will be for 312 buses.

2:00:02

The contractor is Luminator Technology Group Global.

2:00:05

They're located in Plano, Texas.

2:00:08

This will be a five-year contract at 4,355,888 with 96 cents.

2:00:16

Is there a motion to discuss 7.6?

2:00:20

Motion.

2:00:21

Thank you.

2:00:22

Vice Chair, Mr.

2:00:24

Washington have a few questions regarding this contract.

2:00:30

If there's anyone to discuss, yes, through the chair, we have Director Kramer online as well as Ricky Yamakora and Justin Early.

2:00:41

If we can make them into panelists, they're being promoted, Madam Chair.

2:00:58

Oh, I don't know.

2:00:59

Hopefully they wouldn't do it that way.

2:01:01

Thank you.

2:01:07

Good afternoon.

2:01:08

If you wouldn't mind stating your names and titles for the public.

2:01:12

Hello, I'm Robert Kramer, Director of Dog.

2:01:24

Good morning, Justin Early, OCP.

2:01:26

Good morning.

2:01:27

Thank you all for joining us.

2:01:29

We're discussing 7.6.

2:01:31

If folks just wouldn't mind uh sharing the difference between this contract um and one that has been passed recently and what we can expect um regarding uh this new technology.

2:01:45

I can take that one uh through the chair, and again, good afternoon.

2:01:49

So this uh item before the uh committee right now is for a brand new replacement camera system for all of the D dot fixed route buses.

2:02:00

Uh and this is something uh once approved, if if approved, will be implemented and we'll fully replace the current system by uh we're projecting by June of next year in 2026.

2:02:12

That includes uh getting the cameras installed and tested, calibrated across the entire fleet of nearly 300 buses.

2:02:19

Uh and this is something that will then be brand new with all of the features um mentioned we can provide more details on the previous item uh was with the vendor for our current system, which is called the Saiyan S E O N.

2:02:35

And uh basically that's replacement parts and kits to make sure that we're able to continue the current system running in proper working order, including on the new buses we're bringing in uh while we wait for the six-month transition period to be implemented.

2:02:51

So that's the difference.

2:02:52

The the previous contract was for uh parts and um support for the current system to make sure that it's continuing to be operational.

2:03:00

This is for our brand new system to replace it.

2:03:03

Okay, thank you.

2:03:05

And I do believe there was a Seax completed for this, correct?

2:03:09

Absolutely.

2:03:10

Yep, we posted it back in July.

2:03:12

Uh we followed all the steps.

2:03:14

We were on the Doncast.

2:03:15

Uh, we even had a couple of other meetings along the way.

2:03:18

Um, so yeah, we're very confident, and Ricky's done a great job with a very thorough presentation about all the uh details and questions.

2:03:25

Um, but again, we're we're happy um to uh discuss further.

2:03:29

Okay, thank you.

2:03:30

Are there any other questions for 7.6 hearing none?

2:03:35

Is there a motion to approve?

2:03:37

Motion to move business, hearing no objection, 7.6 will be approved, sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

2:03:45

Thank you all.

2:03:48

Moving us along seven point seven seven point seven is a memo relative to data on incidents regarding food vendors.

2:04:07

This can be received and filed without objection.

2:04:11

Thank you.

2:04:11

Hearing no objections, 7.7 will be received and filed.

2:04:16

7.8 is a memo relative to questions regarding storm water management possible uh policy.

2:04:22

Is there a motion to discuss?

2:04:24

Motion.

2:04:24

Thank you, Vice Chair to the administration, Mr.

2:04:28

Washington.

2:04:29

I know that we've been asked to bring 7.8 back next year.

2:04:33

Um, however, I believe anything that we don't work on just dies, it falls.

2:04:39

She falls.

2:04:40

So, how have we talked with member Johnson about her picking this back up next year?

2:04:47

Through the chair, um DWSD has been having ongoing conversations with member Johnson on this item.

2:04:53

Um, but I would defer to her on how she would want to proceed with this.

2:05:00

Um, my thought is that if it does fall off this year, um she does want we can still uh respond in writing either way if it does fall off.

2:05:05

Um but if she does want it placed back on the agenda, um she would I'll recommend that she would resubmit it, but we can respond in either instance.

2:05:14

Okay.

2:05:14

Well, it looks like um they they would like some responses.

2:05:19

So given that this is the last time in this committee, I think it should be moved to formal so that member Johnson is able to ask the question tomorrow at the table, unless there are any other thoughts.

2:05:33

Hearing none, is there a motion to send seven point eight to new business with the recommendation to approve?

2:05:39

Hearing no objections, seven point eight will be sent to formal new business for discussion.

2:05:46

Thank you, Mr.

2:05:47

Washington.

2:05:48

Moving us along.

2:05:50

Discussion vice chair.

2:05:52

And so we're sending the memo to formal.

2:05:56

Is there a an action that needs to be taken to formal on this one tomorrow?

2:06:00

There needs to be discussion.

2:06:01

And today's our last day.

2:06:04

We we don't have time, so this is an opportunity for member Johnson to have a discussion.

2:06:08

Okay.

2:06:10

Um I just discussed seven points.

2:06:19

Oh, something very similar.

2:06:20

So 7.9.

2:06:21

This is a memo relative to a request for a report on flood mitigation solutions on West Graham Boulevard.

2:06:27

Is there a motion to discuss?

2:06:29

Motion.

2:06:30

Thank you, Mr.

2:06:30

Washington.

2:06:31

Similar, we were asked to bring this back.

2:06:34

Um, but how have discussions been going with uh council president's office?

2:06:39

Yes, um, through the chair, we actually uh formalized our response and shared out this morning, so we should be offset with this item.

2:06:46

To receive and file if responses have been received and it's on e scribe, I'm assuming Mr.

2:06:53

Washington.

2:06:55

Um, only it was just forwarded via email this morning before session.

2:06:59

Sent via email closed.

2:07:11

Um I will again, I'm gonna ask that this be sent to formal.

2:07:16

Um, if council president joins us tomorrow, just an opportunity to make sure that she needs nothing else from this item.

2:07:22

Um, is there a motion to send seven points nine to formal session new business?

2:07:27

Motion hearing no objection, seven point nine will be sent to new business for discussion.

2:07:32

Thank you, Mr.

2:07:33

Washington.

2:07:34

Moving us along now to new business under the Office of Contracted and Procurements.

2:07:40

8.1.

2:07:41

This is contract number 6002743, amendment number two utilizing 100% city funding to provide an extension of time and increase of funds for a web-based workflow solution for processing plans and drawings for BCD and DPW.

2:07:57

Contractor is a Valve Software Corporation, they're located in Scottsdale, Arizona.

2:08:03

This will extend their time through July 31st, 2027.

2:08:09

Increase their amounts by 198,000 with 30 dollars, bringing this total contract to 893,565 with 63 cents.

2:08:24

And again, this would be for BCD and DPW.

2:08:26

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 8.1?

2:08:32

Hearing no objections.

2:08:33

8.1 will be approved.

2:08:35

Is uh motion to send to new business.

2:08:39

Hearing no objections will be approved, sent to new business with the recommendation to approve eight point two through eight point five are various thank you, construction and demolition contracts.

2:09:16

This will provide an increase of funds only for construction services for DP excuse me, DFD annex additions at three existing fire stations.

2:09:26

Contractors major contracting group, they're located in Detroit.

2:09:29

This will extend their time through June 30th, 2026.

2:09:37

Nope, that is current.

2:09:38

That is the current time.

2:09:39

It is currently going through June 30th, 2026.

2:09:42

We are increasing the amount by 1,138,359 with 62 cents, bringing this total contract to six million four hundred and one with 815 and 62 cents.

2:10:01

8.3.

2:10:02

This is contract number 6007585, utilizing 100% city funding to provide general contracting services at City of Detroit facilities.

2:10:12

Contractors, DMC consultants, they're in Detroit.

2:10:16

And this will be for 750,000.

2:10:22

8.4 is contract number 6007586 utilizing 100% city funding to provide general contracting services at City of Detroit facilities.

2:10:33

Contractors Gandalf.

2:10:35

They're located in Detroit's, and this will be for 1,500,000.

2:10:41

8.5 is contract number 6007587 utilizing 100% city funding to provide general contracting services at City of Detroit Facilities.

2:10:55

Contractor here is W3 Construction Company.

2:10:58

They're located in Detroit, and this will also be for 1,500,000 for construction and demolition.

2:11:06

Is there a motion to approve or discuss items 8.2 through 8.5?

2:11:14

Motion to approve.

2:11:16

Are there any objections?

2:11:18

Hearing on 8.2 through 8.5 will be approved.

2:11:23

Since is there motion for new business?

2:11:25

Motion.

2:11:29

With the recommendation to approve.

2:11:32

Dr.

2:11:32

Powers, if we stated at the beginning of the meeting, I don't have to keep repeating.

2:11:36

Thank you.

2:11:38

I will stop doing so.

2:11:40

Moving us along.6.

2:11:46

This is the DSS ground maintenance schedule number one.

2:11:53

This is utilizing 100% city funding.

2:11:56

Services include but are not limited to the planning design, maintenance management, and operation for goods maintenance at or on the grounds of City of Detroit facilities, public spaces, and/or pri properties, including some materies and surrounding grounds.

2:12:12

Schedule period will be upon city council approval for five years.

2:12:18

And this is the max order limited to 78,520,000.

2:12:28

And this again is the ground maintenance schedule.

2:12:32

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 8.6 or if there is an approval, if we would wouldn't mind a discussion?

2:12:40

Motion to approve discussion.

2:12:42

Thank you, Vice Chair, Mr.

2:12:43

Washington.

2:12:49

I do believe we have DeAndre Brown alive.

2:12:52

If we can make them into a panelist.

2:13:03

And through the chair, I believe Director Stahl has joined as well.

2:13:07

And if we can make her into a panelist as well.

2:13:21

Good afternoon, DeAndre Berry, Office of Contracting and Procurement.

2:13:27

Thank you for joining us.

2:13:28

I see somebody else has joined us.

2:13:30

I can't see the name or the screen.

2:13:35

If you wouldn't mind introducing yourself, yes.

2:13:38

Good morning through the chair, Sandra Stahl, and I apologize that my video is not currently working.

2:13:45

Okay.

2:13:45

No worries.

2:13:46

Uh good to hear from you.

2:13:48

Thank you both for joining us.

2:13:49

We are discussing 8.6.

2:13:51

This is the ground maintenance schedule.

2:13:54

It is a hefty contract.

2:13:56

Um, if you wouldn't mind sharing with the public what they can expect through this contract.

2:14:03

Yeah.

2:14:05

Um, this contract is for five years, or this supply schedule is for five years with 13 vendors.

2:14:13

Um, all but two are Detroit vendors.

2:14:16

Uh the supply schedule for this one includes um grounds keeping, tree planting, tree removal, snow and ice removal.

2:14:25

Uh we keep this one open to ensure that we can have um sufficient qualified vendors for uh particularly tree uh services.

2:14:34

Um the vendors uh range in uh Detroit percentage of Detroit residents employed from 34% to 100% um with the majority above 50 percent.

2:14:47

Uh the departments that will use this contract include uh public works and GSD.

2:14:56

And this is a new year schedule for a total amount of 78,520,000.

2:15:10

Does that complete your presentation or your overview?

2:15:13

Yes, okay, thank you.

2:15:15

I appreciate that.

2:15:16

You mentioned snow removal, yeah.

2:15:20

And then I know we just recently approved the salts for the removal.

2:15:25

Yes, okay.

2:15:29

So that would just be the separates uh purchases of the salts, and then this will be the crew that will be doing that work.

2:15:38

Yes, the crews that would go through removing snow uh from streets and then hauling away the large piles of snow and tree removal, this will not be a part of the dead diseased uh program, correct?

2:15:53

That is separate.

2:15:55

Um that could be once this once the schedule is established.

2:15:59

Uh contracts for the 3D program, if the funding continues uh to be approved in the city's budget, could be awarded through this schedule.

2:16:09

Okay, awesome.

2:16:10

Got it.

2:16:11

Thank you.

2:16:11

Um, and just not sure if you if you have um the information for this, but and just talking with a lot of residents.

2:16:20

Um, they remember when the city was responsible for maintaining trees um at a higher rate than we're doing now.

2:16:27

I know that we when we identify a dead, dying or disease tree, and when we have the funding, we can work on it, but um, they talk about there being regular maintenance to alleys and streetways with trees.

2:16:42

Um we went through a bankruptcy.

2:16:44

I know that we put a lot of responsibility then on residents uh for sidewalk maintenance, alley maintenance.

2:16:51

Uh have there been any discussions in the administration about bringing this service back to to what it was in its heyday, um, or do we see ourselves um doing what we can with what we have for now?

2:17:08

Well, um, through the chair, uh I guess there's a distinction between the street funded tree maintenance work that is done for uh trees that are in the right-of-way, uh, right?

2:17:22

So on the berm between the sidewalk and the street, um, that is ongoing, and then there was special funding uh appropriated by uh city council to address trees that are in um uh private uh leowned areas.

2:17:39

Um, but I would have to defer to the budget department and GSD in terms of um the scale of funding and ongoing efforts.

2:17:49

Okay, understood.

2:17:50

We can continue to have those discussions as well.

2:17:54

Um, this was something that uh I had a lot of um residents requesting um that we do more of the tree maintenance than we're doing now.

2:18:06

Um so thank you for for sharing that information, and we can continue to have those discussions.

2:18:11

Are there any other questions for 8.6?

2:18:13

Discussion.

2:18:14

Vice Chair?

2:18:14

Thank you.

2:18:15

Um just looking at your list.

2:18:17

One of the addresses is 8118 bliss, a third district address.

2:18:22

I appreciate that, but also residents.

2:18:24

Uh, just wanted to verify that we are confident that this is an address and it's a good business, um, being that it's not in a commercial office or traditional office space.

2:18:40

Would you speak to that, please?

2:18:46

Can you give me that address again, please?

2:18:48

8118 bliss Rainbow Lawn and Tree Service.

2:19:01

Oh, yes, we are we are confident.

2:19:03

We have used them in the past as well.

2:19:06

Okay, fantastic.

2:19:06

Thank you.

2:19:07

Glad to see you're utilizing third district businesses.

2:19:10

Yes.

2:19:11

Thank you, Vice Chair.

2:19:14

Are there any other questions?

2:19:16

Hearing none.

2:19:17

Is there a motion to approve 8.6?

2:19:19

Motion.

2:19:20

There was a motion.

2:19:21

Hearing no objections, 8.6 will be approved, sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

2:19:27

Thank you both.

2:19:33

8.7.

2:19:35

This is the architectural engineering and planning supply schedule utilizing 100% city major funding and grant funding.

2:19:46

This is the second amendment.

2:19:49

This is adding additional suppliers for engineering, construction and management, planning and program management services.

2:20:00

This will be uh uh this will start at the approval of city council.

2:20:03

It will be a five-year contract.

2:20:05

Uh the max order limitation is 81,300 or excuse me, 81,300,000.

2:20:14

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 8.7?

2:20:21

Discussion.

2:20:21

Vice chair.

2:20:22

All right, thank you.

2:20:23

Do yourself to the administration.

2:20:25

Just briefly speak to this amendment.

2:20:27

What are we getting in addition?

2:20:29

This is extraordinarily large contract.

2:20:31

Just want to make sure that people understand what we're doing here.

2:20:34

Director Stahl, if you're still with us.

2:20:36

Okay.

2:20:37

Uh through the chair.

2:20:39

This is a uh schedule that has been previously approved by city council for that um $81,300,000 maximum over a five-year period.

2:20:50

The schedule is used by uh transportation, public works, um, GSD, the planning department, CDD.

2:21:00

So um, as you can see, that uh figure is spread out over five years as well as multiple different departments.

2:21:06

The four the amendment today is uh simply to add four additional suppliers to be eligible for award against the schedule.

2:21:15

They include Smith Group, Studio Detroit, Wade Trim Associates, and Fishback, all located in the city of Detroit.

2:21:25

I told them not to come.

2:21:28

So the purpose of the amendment today is to add the four suppliers in addition to the prior approved suppliers to be eligible uh against the contract against the schedule.

2:21:40

Thank you, Director Vice Chair.

2:21:42

No other questions.

2:21:43

Thank you.

2:21:44

Are there any other questions for 8.7?

2:21:47

Hearing none.

2:21:49

Is there motion to approve?

2:21:51

There was a motion to approve with discussion.

2:21:53

Hearing no objections, eight point seven will be approved, sent to four months.

2:21:58

New business with the recommendation to approve.

2:22:01

Thank you, Director.

2:22:04

Moving us along eight point eight through eight point ten are various health department contracts.

2:22:15

Eight point eight.

2:22:16

This is contract number six zero zero seven four zero zero, utilizing a hundred percent Ryan White grant funding.

2:22:23

This is to provide consulting and training services for SEMHOC to access and evaluate HIV aid services and to develop an integrated plan for HIV and AID services.

2:22:36

The contractor is Jane uh Cockland Conklin.

2:22:39

They are located in Tuscan, Arizona, and this will go through November 25th, 2025.

2:22:48

This contract will be for 100 and three uh 103,000 dollars with 500 for the health department eight point nine.

2:23:02

This uh those are CBI uh contracts.

2:23:05

So is there a motion to approve or discuss 8.8 motion motion to approve hearing no objections 8.8 will be approved, sent to new business with a recommendation to approve.

2:23:23

Vice Chair?

2:23:24

Can we take the uh CBI together?

2:23:26

Yes, that's why I broke that apart.

2:23:28

We do have a number of CBI contracts 8.9 8.11 8.12.

2:23:50

Do you believe those are the only ones?

2:23:53

Oh, an 8.13.

2:24:06

8.9, 8.11, 8.12, and 8.13.

2:24:12

These are the these are various CVI contracts.

2:24:23

8.9.

2:24:24

This is contract number 6007580 utilizing 100% city funding.

2:24:30

This is to provide community violence intervention, CVI services for a successor successor agreements for Detroit's 300.

2:24:39

Contractor is centers for family developments, they're located in Detroit.

2:24:43

This will go through September 30th, 2026.

2:24:46

This total contract will be 1,487,000 with 500.

2:24:53

8.

2:25:00

11 is contract number 6007590, utilizing 100% city funding to provide CVI services in expanded areas.

2:25:07

Contractor is Detroit People's Communities are in Detroit.

2:25:11

This will go through January 31st, 2027.

2:25:15

The total contract is 860,000.

2:25:20

8.12 is contract number 6007592.

2:25:25

Utilizing 100% city funding for CDI services in expanded areas.

2:25:30

The contractor here is New Era Community Connection.

2:25:33

They're located in Detroit.

2:25:35

They will go through January 31st, 2027.

2:25:38

And this total contract is $860,000.

2:25:43

8.13 is contract number 6007593.

2:25:48

Utilizing 100% city funding to provide CVI services in expanded areas.

2:25:54

This will go to Detroit Friends and Family located in Detroit.

2:25:58

They will go through January 31st, 2027.

2:26:02

And this contract is 860,000 as well.

2:26:06

Is there a motion to discuss?

2:26:08

Motion to approve discussion.

2:26:10

Vice Chair.

2:26:11

No questions.

2:26:12

No questions.

2:26:13

I do, I believe, to the administration is if I we can make our director, Director Stahl into a panelist.

2:26:45

Thank you.

2:26:49

Thank you for joining us.

2:26:51

Um director stall, if you wouldn't mind, I know that we should expect some correction letters.

2:26:56

Correct, if you wouldn't mind letting us know what those are and then what we have in front of us right now.

2:27:04

Yes, thank you.

2:27:05

Um through the chair, there are four contracts before uh city council today.

2:27:13

Um the contract with centers for family development is a replacement contract for the Detroit 300 contract, whose leader um uh unfortunately passed away earlier this year.

2:27:26

Uh so that contract has been replaced uh by this new contract with its fiduciary centers for family development is uh had formerly been known as Black Family Development and uh was a fiduciary for that organization.

2:27:40

So in order to continue its ongoing work for year three, um we are contracting with the fiduciary, um, and that is for the original area, uh, and is the 700,000 base plus 700,000 on performance grant.

2:27:55

The three new contracts with um Detroit People's Community, Detroit Friends and Family, and New Area Detroit are a um combination of their original areas for year three with um expansion areas that were awarded as a result of a new bid that recently concluded.

2:28:18

Um and were awarded based on the um the importance of the services needed in those particular areas that they proposed, as well as um the quality of the proposal and the organization's footprint in the area.

2:28:38

Um, so in order to not have a complicated situation with separate contracts for the original areas and the new expansion areas, these three contracts combined the original areas plus the expansions that were awarded from the bid and the dollar amounts uh the eight hundred and sixty thousand dollars originally submitted only account for the base, they should actually be eight hundred and sixty thousand for base plus an eight hundred and sixty thousand dollars for the performance grant.

2:29:08

So each contract is an actual total of um a not to succeed amount of one point seven two million.

2:29:15

Those are the correction letters that have just been sent out.

2:29:19

Okay, thank you.

2:29:21

So then if uh those have been shared with everybody, including the clerk's office.

2:29:29

Yes.

2:29:30

Okay, because I would rather move this out as corrected so that tomorrow we have the the the corrected contracts and formal session.

2:29:39

Okay, that was my question.

2:29:42

Are there any other questions for these contracts?

2:29:45

Uh Madam Chair, I have my questions answered in long discussions this morning offline.

2:29:49

Thank you.

2:29:50

Okay, is there a motion to approve 8.9, 8.11, 8.12, and 8.13 as corrected.

2:30:00

Hearing no objections, 8.9, 8.11, 8.12, and 8.13 will be approved, sent to new business as corrected.

2:30:07

Thank you, Director, for joining us.

2:30:09

Thank you both for joining us.

2:30:13

I will bring us back.

2:30:20

We've discussed 8.8 and 8.9.

2:30:26

8.10.

2:30:27

This is contract number 6007401 utilizing 100% Ryan White's grant funding to provide consulting and training services.

2:30:37

Hmm.

2:30:37

I have not read this one, correct?

2:30:39

This is just another, they just are very similar.

2:30:42

Correct.

2:30:42

Different contractors.

2:30:43

Thank you.

2:30:44

Um to train services to Simpoc to assess and evaluate HIV aid services and to develop an integrated plan for HIV AIDS.

2:30:57

The contractor here is David Knapp.

2:30:59

They are located in Durham, North Carolina.

2:31:04

This will go through November 25th, 2025.

2:31:08

And this contract is for 103,000 with 500.

2:31:12

And this will be for the health departments.

2:31:14

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 8.10?

2:31:18

Motion to approve.

2:31:19

Hearing no objections, 8.10 will be approved, sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

2:31:27

We've discussed 8.11 through 8.13.

2:31:35

8.14.

2:31:37

This is contract number 6007589 utilizing 100% grant funding to provide reimbursements for innovation in supervision initiative program that includes the capacity and effectiveness of probation and parole programs.

2:31:53

Contractor state of Michigan, this will go through December 30th of this year.

2:32:01

And this will be 328,000 with 1675 cents.

2:32:09

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 8.14?

2:32:14

Motion to approve.

2:32:15

Hearing no objections, 8.14 will be approved, sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

2:32:21

815, this is contract number 600 3398.

2:32:25

Amendment number two utilizing 100% grant funding.

2:32:29

This will provide an extension of time and increase of funds for preliminary engineering services for advanced transportation and congestion management technologies.

2:32:39

Deployment grants award.

2:32:41

Contractors AECOM, they are in Detroit.

2:32:46

This will go through the amended contract will go through June 30th, 2026, and the increased amounts will be 149,859 with 39 cents, bringing this total contract to 949,212 with 34 cents.

2:33:08

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 8.15?

2:33:12

Motion to approve.

2:33:14

Hearing no objections, 8.15 will be approved.

2:33:17

Send to new business with the recommendation to approve.

2:33:23

8.16 is contract number 3086942 utilizing the 100% city funding to provide invoice payments for grant administration services.

2:33:35

Contractor is WSP Michigan Inc.

2:33:39

They're located in Detroit.

2:33:41

And this will go through June 30th, 2026.

2:33:45

This contract will be 413,252 with 35 cents.

2:33:52

And this will be for transportation.

2:33:54

Is there a we have another transportation contract 8.17?

2:34:01

This is contract number 600710100 utilizing 100% grant funding as well.

2:34:08

This is to provide remanufactured coach engines, power plants, replacements, and engine parts and repairs.

2:34:14

Contractor is Cummins Inc.

2:34:17

They're located in Dearborn.

2:34:19

This is a five-year contract at 10,939,377.

2:34:26

And again, this is for transportation.

2:34:29

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 8.16 and 8.17?

2:34:35

Motion to approve.

2:34:36

Hearing no objections, 8.16 and 8.17 would be approved.

2:34:40

Sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

2:34:45

8.18.

2:34:47

This is the emergency food purchases.

2:34:51

Uh reports.

2:34:53

Is there a motion to receive and file or to discuss 8.18?

2:35:03

Uh motion to approve this resolution.

2:35:10

Hearing no objections, 8.18 will be approved, sent to new.

2:35:15

Oh, I'm so sorry.

2:35:16

This can be received and filed.

2:35:18

Uh, Vice Chair.

2:35:18

This is um emergency food purchases.

2:35:22

This is a note to council.

2:35:24

So we can just receive and file.

2:35:26

Discussion.

2:35:26

Vice Chair.

2:35:27

There is a resolution attached.

2:35:30

Do we need we not need to approve that?

2:35:34

Mr.

2:35:34

Washington, I saw you jump on.

2:35:39

Through the chair, I do see Director Stahl.

2:35:42

He's still online.

2:35:44

If we can make her into panelists, thank you, Director Stahl.

2:35:48

Yes.

2:35:48

Uh thank you.

2:35:50

Through the chair.

2:35:51

Um, these emergency food purchases were entered into a few weeks ago.

2:35:57

Uh uh due to the SNAP emergency.

2:36:01

Um the ordinance requires notification to city council within a certain period, and then also approval of the contract within four weeks.

2:36:11

Both vendors have provided all required consolidated affidavits as well as treasury clearances.

2:36:17

So we are um requesting their approval as well.

2:36:20

And director, is what be is this the notice and the resolution to approve the contracts then?

2:36:27

Yes.

2:36:28

Okay, and I see the two contracts.

2:36:29

Okay, got it.

2:36:30

Thank you.

2:36:31

Thank you, Vice Chair.

2:36:33

Then we need a motion to approve.

2:36:35

Motion.

2:36:36

Thank you.

2:36:37

8.18 will be approved, sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

2:36:42

Thank you both.

2:36:43

Thank you.

2:36:45

Under the office of the Chief Financial Officer, Office of Development and Grants 8.19.

2:36:51

This is an authorization to submit a grant application to the cities for financial empowerments fund for the fiscal year 2025 emergency financial empowerment grants.

2:37:04

Is there a motion to approve or discuss?

2:37:07

Motion to approve.

2:37:08

Hearing no objections, 8.19 will be approved sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

2:37:17

Under the legislative policy division eight points twenty.

2:37:22

This is a resolution supporting the adoption of SB 611 and SB 612 as discussed earlier.

2:37:29

This is to prohibit petitioner fees for PPOs in domestic violence cases.

2:37:34

Is there a motion to approve or discuss?

2:37:37

Motion to approve.

2:37:38

Hearing no objections, 8.20 will be approved, sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

2:37:46

8.21 is a resolution in support of the living wage for musicians act.

2:37:51

If there's a motion to approve, motion hearing no objections, eight point twenty-one will be sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

2:38:01

This brings us down to Remember reports.

2:38:04

We have three items that we need to walk on for votes three or four.

2:38:12

Let me just confirm.

2:38:16

We do have four memos.

2:38:18

Just want to confirm that.

2:38:27

Through the chair, I have seven dot two.

2:38:42

And seven dot five.

2:38:47

I think seven dot five is the one you just took care of at 8.20.

2:38:50

Correct.

2:38:51

Thank you.

2:38:54

16.

2:38:58

So then um thank you all.

2:39:00

So the resolution supporting the adoption of SB 611 and 612.

2:39:05

We have come we have already approved new business.

2:39:09

So in front of us, 7.2 through 7.4.

2:39:12

These are the resolutions that we would need to walk on if there's a motion to do so.

2:39:17

Motion.

2:39:18

Hearing no objections, we will walk on the resolutions for 7.12, 7.3, and 7.4.

2:39:25

Is there a motion to approve to new business?

2:39:28

Motion.

2:39:28

Hearing no objections, all three resolutions, 7.2, 7.3, 7.4 will be approved to new business with the recommendation to approve.

2:39:39

Madam Clerk, is there anything else that I might be missing?

2:39:42

Through the chair, there's nothing missing.

2:39:44

Thank you.

2:39:45

Uh, we are down at member reports, vice chair.

2:39:47

I thank you.

2:39:48

Uh being this is the last of the public health and safety standing committee meetings.

2:39:54

I'd like to applaud your leadership here, madam chair, for leading this standing committee for the last four years.

2:40:01

And while people often don't talk about how important the standing committees are, there is a huge uh level of quality of life items that come through this committee.

2:40:15

And as a direct result, just wanted to identify uh through your leadership what we've been able to do here.

2:40:22

And I asked a few of our department hedge over which this standing committee has oversight to just uh send in a few of their highlights and their thank yous for the support of this committee.

2:40:34

Um, and if you go to DPW to transformative uh trash hauling contracts worth over 122 million dollars for waste management and 87 million for priority waste, five separate streetscape projects that were approved uh with these totaling 36 million dollars, uh street lighting, road paving, paving our asphalt material contracts uh for the paving of 115 miles of residential roads, 57 million dollars, 31 miles of major corridors, 40 million dollars.

2:41:08

Uh believe there was over 250,000 individual sidewalk flags replaced throughout the city of Detroit, 75 million dollars uh through BCED and ordinance to streamline business licensing project, uh ordinance to increase the effectiveness of Detroit system for overseeing safety uh of rental housing.

2:41:29

And there have been 6900 inspections completed so far this year, over 2300 um businesses supported through the reduction of red tape, uh through public safety.

2:41:41

We've launched and expanded our nationally recognized CBI program with a budget of 10 million dollars per year, which is now saving thousands of lives annually through this type of investment.

2:41:53

Um we've license plate readers to help DPD solve crimes, D dot 45 new buses being delivered this year, and we've got another 31 on tap for next year.

2:42:04

20 million dollars of investment in D DOT uh through fiscal 26 funding.

2:42:09

Uh it includes bus shelters and stops, something that we saw earlier when it comes to quality of life, uh code of conduct ordinance set and enforced conduct standards on DDOP buses uh through the health department.

2:42:23

We heard from them earlier the dime with confidence ordinance, the animal keeping and husbandry ordinance, the health care buffer zone ordinance, as well as the rental ordinance.

2:42:34

Um the fire department approved 127 million dollars in new fire apparatus and EMS fleet investments, uh advanced major federal grant acceptance, which totaled 30 million dollars, uh approved nurse navigation uh to help services reduce non-emergent transportation.

2:42:55

Uh B seed, we this body authorized over 1,855 uh demolitions uh through our dangerous buildings hearings.

2:43:05

Uh for our demolition department, the CDD team, clear boarding, they put up five or five thousand clear boarded properties.

2:43:16

They boarded up over 14,000 properties with plywood, um, completed 120 million dollars in ARPA contracts, completed in uh over a hundred million dollars in capital funding projects, uh 10,200 demolitions between emergency prop in and commercial demos, and all commercial demos were were performed in full compliance with section eight TAC-15583 of our fugitive dust ordinance.

2:43:46

Uh CVI is helping to change how people think about dealing with each other as well as changing decisions on use of guns.

2:43:54

Uh body worn cameras were approved and new equipment upgrades by this committee, uh shot spotter expansion in 2022, and this coupled with CVI and other initiatives is changing people's decision making and helping people to put down their guns.

2:44:10

Uh this body demanded and shepherded historic employee raises for DPD, making them now competitive.

2:44:21

Um, in addition, uh our demolition and construction team, they facilitated over 34,000 work orders over the past four years.

2:44:32

And so when you talk about implementation of quality of life and just how the city operates, you can just see this is just a small sample of what has come through this committee.

2:44:44

So when you think about how important it is for city council that impacts and oftentimes, probably all the time.

2:45:00

But this is just evidence of what type of positive impact and the necessity of a city council and having a city council that believes in good governance and ensuring that our residents receive the resources and the services that we demand as well as deserve, which is also why proper compensation of our elected officials leads towards good governance and high levels of competency.

2:45:26

Thank you, Madam Chair.

2:45:27

Thank you, Vice Chair.

2:45:28

I appreciate all of that and completely agree.

2:45:31

And also just want to thank you for your supports and guidance in my chairing.

2:45:36

I learned a lot from you, and I really appreciate your your feedback and help in that end.

2:45:42

And I am incredibly proud of what we've done in our first term.

2:45:47

Yes, I am really happy of the work that you've mentioned.

2:45:51

We got truck routes established.

2:45:53

We're going to continue to expand that.

2:45:55

We were able to complete a lot of the work from my predecessor, like getting the fugitive deaths passed.

2:46:00

Our clinics are now more protected.

2:46:02

We have the foresight of seeing a Trump administration and what that would mean for folks that are going to the clinics.

2:46:09

We were able to turn paratransit from an F grade to an A grade, which is so so incredible to me.

2:46:16

Gives me hope and a lot of drive to continue to make this work.

2:46:20

Again, huge thank you to our departments.

2:46:23

I I will I want to believe that having D D Dot come before us every quarter with those numbers really helped push them and hold themselves and their work accountable.

2:46:33

And thank you to the health department for for beginning that cadence with us.

2:46:36

Hope that we were able to do identify more needs, more support so that we're able to grow your work as well.

2:46:42

We have done so much, and thank you, Vice Chair, for sharing those numbers.

2:46:46

I had the same to share, and just really will just say that we have a lot more to go.

2:46:51

Excited to make sure that Detroit joins Rx Kids.

2:46:54

Excited to make sure that we have an Office of Violence Prevention.

2:46:57

There is so much more that we're gonna do for next term.

2:47:00

So thank you all so much for your for your help for your work in this.

2:47:04

And member waters had to step out, say folks would not mind sending her some love and some prayers.

2:47:09

Um, there are some health issues that I I believe she's going through right now, so just uh keep her keep her in your thoughts.

2:47:14

Um, and thank you to both of my my co-chairs for just being really wonderful people in this committee.

2:47:19

I appreciate you.

2:47:20

Thank you to all of our admin, and Maggie for being here with that.

2:47:23

I will see everyone tomorrow.

2:47:25

But we are now adjourned here in public health and safety.

2:47:28

Thank you.

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Summary of Proceedings

Detroit Public Health and Safety Committee Meeting - November 24, 2025

The Public Health and Safety Committee convened for its final session of the term to review health department operations, approve a modernized secondhand goods ordinance, and consider various contractual appropriations. The meeting featured public testimony regarding legal aid, environmental health hazards, and political concerns, followed by detailed discussions on secondhand goods reporting and budget approvals.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of minutes from the previous session.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Teresa Davis: Expressed an urgent need for legal representation for an illegal eviction appeal, noting that she was unable to find an attorney in the state to represent her at the appellate level despite her low-income status and medical challenges. She sought a referral to an attorney or legal assistance organization.
  • Mr. Foster: Expressed concern regarding the perspective of ground forces in the military and paramilitary regarding conscientious objection and lawful orders under the UCMJ. He requested clarification on a "successor agreement" related to the Detroit 300 grant.
  • Joyce Jennings: Expressed full support for calling a city-wide public health emergency to address environmentally hazardous businesses. She argued that the concentration of sick and dying residents in her district (specifically near Kronos/U.S. Ecology) necessitated immediate council action.
  • Stephen Horing: Expressed strong opposition and concern regarding the presence of "socialists" on the Detroit City Council, stating he is glad to be in Miami where socialism is not tolerated.
  • Caller "Owner Papa": Expressed strong opposition to the council's recent vote on property tax dollars going to corporate America, characterizing it as socialism and illegal. The caller threatened to file lawsuits against council members and stop paying property taxes.
  • William M. Davis: Expressed disappointment in the Health Department's location regarding parking, questioned the authorization of $1.8 million in emergency food purchases, and expressed concern over the lack of assistance for Detroit retirees compared to the Mayor's "fat projects."
  • Rernard Munjanski: Expressed support for tighter safety regulations and designated parking for e-scooters to reduce injury rates, noting the current lack of regulatory structure in Detroit compared to other cities.
  • Caller (Anonymous): Accused Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero and the council of election fraud and corruption, labeling the administration as "defunct and dysfunctional."
  • Cindy Dara: Expressed support for suing the city regarding property tax excess dollars and criticized the use of TIF funds. She also noted the reduction in property taxes and insurance for her new property.
  • Caller (534): Expressed full support for the Health Department to use American Rescue Plan funds to repair the former Herman Kiefer building for better compliance. The caller also expressed support for the position that blight tickets without proper proof of service should not be prosecuted.
  • Melissa Love: Expressed strong opposition to the corruption in the city, stating that lack of representation leads to higher insurance rates and more liquor stores. The caller demanded justice and representation, asserting that justice would be served.
  • Sonia Brown: Expressed frustration regarding water department retaliation for reporting basement water/sewage issues, stating she felt mistreated despite community work.
  • Jadante Smith: Expressed full support for the work of CVI funding despite personal disagreements, and apologized for a previous public comment directed at Tyler Cersei. The caller also called for independent verification of the ShotSpotter contract and criticized the residential parking system near Little Caesars Arena.

Discussion Items

  • Health Department Overview: Chief Public Health Officer Denise Ferrazzo, Deputy Director Christina Floyd, and HIV/STI Director Angel Tomsik presented an overview of department services including reproductive health, lead testing, emergency preparedness, and the "Rides to Care" program which provides free rides for prenatal appointments.
  • Seniors & STI Education: Councilmember Benson noted the "Seniors Get It On" outreach program and the effectiveness of the "Dining with Confidence" ordinance. Councilmember Waters requested more Narcan placements in senior buildings and expressed full support for applying for the state "RX for Kids" program, though Director Ferrazzo noted matching funds would be required.
  • Secondhand Goods Ordinance: The committee discussed an amendment to Chapter 41 to modernize record-keeping for junk dealers, pawn brokers, scrap metal dealers, and others into an electronic reporting system managed by the DPD. Administration officials explained the goal is to track stolen goods using existing platforms like LEADS Online, ensuring compliance without new fiscal burdens on businesses during a transition period.
  • Public Comment on Ordinance: Callers expressed concern that the ordinance was too broad and punitive, suggesting it should focus specifically on auto theft. Some callers requested clarification on whether identification scanning would be required and noted the lack of a statewide network for stolen goods.
  • Contracts & Appropriations: The committee reviewed and discussed various contracts including:
    • FY26 Airports Improvement Program Block Grants (Item 7.1).
    • DPW contracts for video camera systems on DDT bus fleets (Item 7.6).
    • Ground maintenance schedule (Item 8.6).
    • Architectural and engineering supply schedule amendment (Item 8.7).
    • Community Violence Intervention (CVI) contracts for Detroit's 300 successor and expanded areas (Items 8.9, 8.11-8.13), noting corrections to total contract values including performance grants.

Key Outcomes

  • Health Department Minutes: Minutes from the previous session were approved.
  • Secondhand Goods Ordinance: Moved to New Business with a recommendation to approve, pending clarification that it modernizes existing state/local requirements to an electronic format.
  • Item 7.1 (Airports Grant): Approved and sent to New Business with a recommendation to approve.
  • Items 7.2-7.4 (Resolutions): Received and filed with a motion to walk on the attached resolutions (SB 601, SB 602, SB 701, SB 702, SB 329, SB 611, SB 612) for a vote in the formal session tomorrow.
  • Item 7.5 (SB 611/612): Received and filed (Resolution on agenda separately).
  • Item 7.6 (Bus Camera Systems): Approved and sent to New Business with a recommendation to approve.
  • Item 7.8 (Storm Water Management): Sent to Formal New Business for discussion regarding Member Johnson's request.
  • Item 7.9 (Flood Mitigation): Sent to Formal New Business for discussion regarding Member Johnson's request.
  • Items 8.1 (Web Workflow), 8.2-8.5 (Construction/Demolition), 8.14-8.17 (Transportation/Grants): Approved and sent to New Business with a recommendation to approve.
  • Item 8.6 (Ground Maintenance): Approved and sent to New Business with a recommendation to approve.
  • Item 8.7 (Engineering Schedule): Approved and sent to New Business with a recommendation to approve.
  • Items 8.8, 8.9, 8.11-8.13 (CVI & HIV Contracts): Approved and sent to New Business as corrected (reflecting base funding plus performance grants).
  • Item 8.18 (Emergency Food Purchases): Approved and sent to New Business with a recommendation to approve.
  • Items 8.19-8.21 (Grants & Resolutions): Approved and sent to New Business with a recommendation to approve.
  • Adjournment: The committee adjourned, with final remarks acknowledging the committee's impact over the term and expressing support for outgoing Chair Gabriela Santiago Romero and Councilmember Mary Waters.

Meeting Transcript

Gabriela Santiago Romero. Present. Councilmember Scott Benson. Councilmember Mary Waters. Madam Chair, you have a quorum present. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Given a quorum, we'll go right into the agenda for today. We have received our minutes from our last session. If there's a motion to approve, motion. Hearing no objections, our minutes from our last session will be approved. Today is our last public health and safety standing committee for this term. With that, we will need all of the items. Madam Clerk, if we can sew notes in for my colleagues, all items need to be moved to new business unless otherwise noted. So that's for all of us. Thank you. Moving us along, we can go right into public comments. For today, we do have a 10 20 a.m. discussion. We will hear from the health departments as well as a 11 o'clock a.m. public hearing regarding secondhand goods. We'll go into that uh at 11 o'clock. If you are calling in for the ordinance and you would like to make public comments, you have two opportunities. You can do so now. You can also do so during the public uh comment section for our 11 a.m. public hearing. Right now we will go into general public comments. Everyone will have a minute and a half for general public comments. We have a 10 a.m. a 1020 discussion, 11 a.m. public hearing. We will have two opportunities today for public comments. The first being general public comment. If anyone is here in person for general public comment, please raise your hands. We have three in person. If you are online, please raise your hands now. I will be cutting off general public comments in two minutes. And again, everyone will have a minute and a half, two opportunities to speak if you're looking to speak regarding the second hand goods ordinance at 11 o'clock. With that, we'll begin with the folks that we have here in person. I have Teresa Davis. Followed by Mr. Foster. First, we'll hear from Miss Davis. Give us one second to make sure we have the mic, uh, the excuse me, the time on for you on the screen. Miss Davis, whenever you're ready, your microphone is on. You can go ahead and get started. Excuse me, madam chair. Sorry. Um, what was the time you wanted set? Oh, 1 30. Okay.

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