For today, Monday, January 26, 2026.

Mother Clerk, please call the roll.

Yes, good morning.

Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero.

Good morning.

Present.

Councilmember Denzel Anton McCampbell.

Present.

Good morning.

Councilmember Mary Waters.

Present.

Councilmember Sandia, we have quorum.

Thank you, Madam Clerk.

Given a quorum, we'll go right into the agenda for today.

We did notice the minutes were on e-scribe, so they are online.

I do not believe our offices received the minutes though.

Just checking with my colleagues.

Did anyone see the minutes from 112?

Okay.

If that can just be sent to our offices, but it is online.

Um I feel comfortable moving forward with the approval of the minutes knowing that they are online and available.

We can always wait until the ends until those are received.

Um is there a preference to my colleagues?

Are we okay to move on or can we have the clerk send it to our office and then we approve at the end?

Mr.

Chair.

Um I'm trying to approve at the end if possible.

Okay, sounds good.

So to Madam Clerk, if we can get those just emailed to everyone here, then we'll upgrade the end.

Clerk will note.

Thank you.

Thanks, everyone.

So that's a note.

We'll go back to the approval of the minutes towards the end of the agenda.

Uh nothing for chair remarks.

This is a pretty standard meeting for us today.

We can go right into public comments.

We've got some contracts, demolitions on the agenda today, grants, a few more things we can discuss as we get started.

Uh, but for now we'll turn it over for public comments.

I will give everyone two minutes for public comment this morning.

We are going to begin with the folks that we have online before we turn it over to the folks that we have in.

Oh, excuse me.

I said that backwards.

First of the people on uh here in person, and then we're gonna go ahead and turn it over for the folks that we have online.

Here online, I see that we have Mr.

Crowley, Mr.

Cunningham, and our police commissioner Victoria.

Thank you all for being here.

We will begin in that order, Mr.

Crowley.

Whenever you're ready, please go ahead and take your seats.

Go ahead and take your seat and I think you guys are back to the okay.

So then we're gonna go ahead and let the other two people that are here first.

Mr.

Crowley, if you wouldn't mind coming up.

Um Commissioner Camille, if you wouldn't mind joining in.

Please pronounce that correctly if I mispronounced your last name.

Um we'll go with our first two, and then we'll turn it over to Mr.

Crowley.

Whenever you're ready, make sure your microphone is on.

The truth yes, you are all set.

I don't have to hold it.

Okay.

Good morning, council members.

My name is Victoria Camille, police commissioner for district seven.

So glad to be here um at this committee meeting today.

Um, I commit to you that you will be seeing me here in person or online more often.

Look forward to working with you to make sure that Detroiters feel safe in our Detroit communities.

Um, just briefly, I just want to show support for the memorandum submitted by Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero in regards to DPD interaction with ICE.

Um I have uh reinforced in our Board of Police Commissioners meeting that uh we also as uh uh as a BLPC want to have that information provided to us as well.

Look forward to reviewing that and getting your feedback and thoughts and sharing ours as well.

Thank you so much for your service, and that's all for me today.

Thank you.

Thank you for being here, Commissioner.

Appreciate your work and yes, look forward to working together moving forward.

Those memos will be up today for discussion.

I'm assuming we'll get the answers in a few weeks, but we'll be sharing that information here.

Thank you.

Uh to Brother Cunningham.

313, 444, 9114, 313, 444, 9114.

313 Fo Fo Fo 9114.

That number was made so you can remember it.

Um that is my Cash App.

Also, you can put that number in to find me on Facebook and the hotline number.

I'll put a message on there, and I've been receiving a lot of texts and um happy birthday.

Today is my birthday.

Um, and uh be wow, 44.

Time is flying.

Um, but um I'm grateful to be used by by God, you know, what I what I've been doing in the community for a long time and advocating.

I thought I must have been dreaming or uh when I came in and I seen uh a person who harasses me and has harassed me at um meetings and um uh um peaceful protests, and all I can do is pray for him or it and I will continue to pray for him, but it's my birthday, and that's the last thing I wanted to see is uh them.

And I will continue to pray for him, but it's my birthday, and that's the last thing I wanted to see, is uh them.

Um very aggressive, very abrasive.

But I will continue to pray for them, and I thank everyone for positive wishes.

Um, I need hand warmers, gloves, and bus tickets to pass all at the stops.

And uh, if you don't want to do it vicariously through me, um, go ahead and buy some hand warmers and the people in your community to ride the bus, pull over and show them some love.

Everybody needs that.

The bus system is not on time yet.

Um, and one idea I was thinking since they have 45 new buses coming.

Um, they have to they have to retire some buses.

Can a letter be drafted to the powers to be in transit to keep the older buses and the new buses so we can get have more of a solid fleet, if that's possible.

Thank you.

Bye bye.

Thank you.

Thank you, Brother Cunningham, and happy birthday again.

44 years young, looking forward to another 44 advocacy and just being with you in community here in Detroit.

And thank you for bringing up uh uh the idea of keeping our old buses.

I did read your idea about turning those into warming centers.

I think that we should talk about that if it's possible to read to repurpose, reutilize.

Um, so thank you.

We appreciate you.

Mr.

Crowley, you're up next and public comments.

Oh, we are saying happy birthday bye.

Um happy birthday, curtain.

And we will be cutting off public comments in one minute.

We're gonna go.

I heard what you said, and I think it was referring to me, Gabriela Santiago Romero, you is a liar, a double liar.

McCampbell.

You just got elected to this board.

You were cheated in, you're a cheated in public official.

My word.

Miss Mary Waters.

I'm gonna give you the opportunity to deal with this land bank with my blessings.

Conrad Mallet Jr., General Corporation, Council for the City of Detroit is a liar.

Michael Edward Duggan, former mayor for the city of Detroit is a liar.

And he controls the whole state of Michigan.

He put Gretchen Whitmer in office and position to run the state of Michigan and Dana Nessel as attorney general and Warren Evans, Chief Executive Officer for the County of Wayne, and he ran the city for 12 years, and we got cheated in public officials, Janice M.

Wilfrey been cheating in Detroit elections for over a decade.

I can prove since 2020.

Donald Trump, number 47, was not lying.

He was cheated on in Detroit.

The whole city council was cheated in, the school board, the school board, the board of police commissioners, and some judges, and I ain't lying about sugar honey ice tea.

I got the facts and the evidence in the balls to back it up.

Now, if anybody want to step forward and call me a liar, do it.

I'm gonna sue you.

Thank you, Mr.

Crowley.

Hope you have a good rest of your day.

We will now public comments.

Public comments is now cut off.

And now we will turn off uh turn over to the folks that we have online.

Miss Evangelista, how many folks do we have online?

Good morning, madam chair.

We have 10 hand raised online.

The first hand is William M.

Davis.

Uh good morning.

Can I be heard?

Yes, good morning.

Okay, great to hear y'all.

Also, I like to say good happy birthday to Brother Cunningham.

I think he's a local hero here.

And uh also like to ask about this.

The rides to care line 313-876-000 is being answered by people in Chicago.

Why?

The city of Detroit has had call centers before.

The same number was used during the Detroit uh COVID response.

Why in the world would Detroit not hire Detroiters?

We offer us too much, and in doing so, we tell the world we are not qualified.

We must do better.

And we can do better.

You know, so that's should be a simple you know, simple thing to look into.

I know the previous administration, the previous previous mayor loved giving our money to any and everybody for various reasons.

That was one of his big drawbacks.

You know, so I'll hopefully y'all can look into that and wonder why is that going on?

It's like why do we rent 100 Mac?

You know, that building does not have parking.

Even you the city pays for the employees to park.

There's no place really for the patrons, you know, the people who come down into the service to get parking.

They have to pay for parking or walk blocks and blocks away, and you have pregnant women and old people going down there.

You know, we need to go back to having because I'm older than at least two thirds of y'all.

I remember we used to have a whole lot of community community health centers all over the city of Detroit that people could go to with free parking.

Used to have Herman Keefer with free parking.

You know, it appears like a lot of this stuff is highly questionable.

You know, who's renting these buildings?

Who's using them?

Is that graph involved in that?

Why the city does not utilize some of the buildings it owned?

And why are we paying for buildings and then doing all the upkeep and maintenance for them?

Thank you.

The next caller is owner Papa.

Good morning, and through the chairman.

Yes, good morning.

Good morning.

Uh, and happy born day to Brother Cunningham.

Uh, have a blessed day and uh blessed rest of your life, really.

Um I don't see any changes on your agenda.

Public health and safety should not be headed by you again.

Um your decisions as chairperson has led the city into um greater poverty.

And you have a grant for HIV that's going to I see um for first y'all first of all, you have a uh four million dollar grant, and all you say is to provide increase of funds for a program administrator for coordinating.

Um that's a lot of money for a coordinator.

Um, can we have more specifics on what this money and what the program is doing?

There's also also one for Henry Ford Hospital on the agenda today.

And I would like to uh break down as to what services they're giving and who are they servicing.

Um this money has been coming to the city for a long time, and um it doesn't appear that we're utilizing it as most of our funds in a in a in a in a proper way.

Um, I see lots of our money going out to um different people.

619 is a hundred percent funding to provide increase in funds only for municipal resident identification.

I don't know what that is.

Can you explain why we're uh paying 117 dollars and it's it's listed under health and and public safety?

I have no idea why it's listed here uh under health and public safety.

621 also is CDBGDR money being sent to for signals and backup power services, nine million dollars.

We we still don't know if we have lead coming into our houses, and um I'm I'm not sure what we're doing with our money, but we're spending a lot of money, and it seems as though we're getting nothing done.

I'd like some numbers, please, some numbers on how we are being effective and how we're using um these dollars because they're millions going out.

Um, you all have a uh a blessed day, peace.

Thank you.

You as well.

Next is Jadante Smith.

Good morning, have you heard?

Good morning, uh council members.

So I want to talk about Conrad Mallet as you go off to the probably guests.

I wish I could have been there in person.

I implore everyone who lives in the city of Detroit to research the dealings of the Detroit Law Department.

I just watched a video from 321 2024.

Um, and there was an admonishment from Angela Callaway to Conrad Mallet about the emergency.

This is some emergency funds for lawsuits, not emergency funds, but some fund for lawsuits and amount of you know he talked about um the amount of backlogs of foyers that we have.

I follow FOIA's very often, and they are always late.

Five days never happens.

Also, there was a monument from uh Councilmember Johnson about the amount of lawsuits that we have and indemnifications, and Kyra Ragnar completely ignored the question of uh what they're doing to stop these indemnifications with police officers.

He said that Grant Haw, who's a lawyer in the he's a deputy chief, a lawyer in the Detroit Police Department, was working doing a great job, which he is not.

He also mentioned there's a special charge in the Detroit Police Department who is doing um FOIA specifically.

We're getting sued from these foyers.

There have been lots of complaints about how IC is dealing with citizens in the city of Detroit and the law in the law department is advising the police department through the board of police commissioners, which Conrad Meller himself sits at um and advises police officers on pretty much how to avoid getting fired and helps the union and helps officers continue to get indemnifications and continue to get lawsuits.

Also, the solar farm buildings with the city of Detroit.

We spent 7.7 million dollars in Zossmer uh PT, which is an outside entity, outside law firm to take people's property with eminent domain.

We're also spending 700,000 more dollars on getting four new attorneys and two paralegals to handle misdemeanors.

And our own mayor does not support this does it not support the law department getting this deal.

I think we need to reevaluate our corporation council and get a new one.

Next is caller ending in 169.

Hello, can you guys can you guys hear me?

Yes, good morning.

Okay, great.

Um, thank you for praying for Brother Cunningham, um, President James State.

Please treat Cunningham better, I pray.

Um, the whole City Council President District One, please treat Cunningham better.

Um Pro Tim Coleman, A.

Young the Second, thanks for being nice to Cunningham, Mary Water.

You treat Cunningham bad, you and your staff.

Angela Woodfield Callaway, you're back and forth treating Cunningham bad, and then you do it all over again.

Um, Scott Benson and City Council District 3.

You all too treat Cunningham bad.

Benson, you gaslight him, Latisha Johnson, hallelujah.

Thank God for you and your district who keep who treats Cunningham Fair.

Um, City Council District 4, thank you.

Renata Miller, please continue to treat Cunningham Fair.

You and your district, City Council, District 5, Gabriella, Santiago, Romero.

I pray for you daily.

Please keep leading with love for all of Detroit.

Um, God bless all of City Council District 6, Denzel Anton McCampbell, honorable councilman.

Thank you for treating Cunningham like a human being and not dogging him out.

I love your district, City Council District 7.

Um, everybody remember is Cunningham's birthday.

Wish him a happy birthday, and thank you for my time.

Thank you, Member Waters.

Thank you.

Uh well, first of all, happy birthday to uh Mr.

Conningham and certainly appreciate all that he does.

I don't know where that gentleman got his information, but we are very, very nice to Mr.

Cunningham.

Uh me and my team.

So I'm not sure.

I think you should go back and take a look.

Uh young man, my brother.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Member Waters.

Who do we have next?

Next, we have Betty A.

Verner.

Good morning to all within the sound of my voice.

I'm Betty A.

Varner, president of the Soda Els World Black Association.

I want to send out uh happy birthday to Brother Cunningham.

Uh God bless you.

We appreciate the work that you do for the community, and I appreciate all the council members.

Uh continue to do the good work and stay positive and in peace.

And when you hear the negativity, just brush it off and keep doing your great work.

And I uh appreciate you so much, uh, honorable council member waters.

I want to get some information about um Franklin Wright settlement.

They have a program called Senior Chore Services.

Their number is 313 579 1000.

You would go to Extension 301 and ask for a Miss June, and they provide services for seniors that are 60 plus.

And some of the services they provide are uh they replace spaucet washers, replace fuses and light bulbs, uh door locks and window catches, they install screen doors, storm doors, weather strips around doors and uh window caulking.

They clean appliances, they do carpet cleaning, install window shades and curtain rods, they wash walls, windows, they scrub floors, seasonal cut grass and raking leaves.

Uh they do remove ice from walkways, uh which is needed now, and they do trimming of overhanging tree branches.

Now, in regards to the seasonal cutting grass and the uh removing snow and ice, I don't know if you have to be on the list.

I don't know how that works.

Thank you.

Next is Tahira Ahmad.

Good morning, council.

Sorry, it took me a little while, but good morning.

Um I just want to continue what I was talking about in behalf of the coalition for property tax justice.

Uh, we want uh the city council, because right now we, as you know, we have so many families who are who have been illegally overtaxed, many of them.

We've got a hundred thousand homes that were illegally foreclosed.

This is the root cause of our homeless problem.

It is because uh uh the deleterious uh policies of uh the city.

And so we want families who right now are uh facing homelessness in this frigid cold uh um weather.

We want you, uh not me particularly, but our coalition would like for you to take more steps in um honoring the property tax reform order ordinance by making sure that it is um adhered to.

And I also want to suggest personally that you work, this committee work diligently to uh provide hotel rooms for the people, families who are homeless.

It is not their fault.

It is the as I said, the policies of this city that they are homeless.

They don't the children do not need to be living in shelters.

Provide hotel rooms as uh many have done in uh this nation for people who are homeless to in these frigid weather in this frigid weather.

I would like for you, uh council member Santiago Ramira to uh start uh putting together the means of providing permanent housing and hotels.

Thank you, Mr.

Matt.

If I could, I absolutely would.

Um we are working on making sure that we're providing safe warm places for folks, and also just for people to know, I'm meeting with a lot of residents, business owners who are all very worried for for our folks that are um housing insecure, who are opening up their warehouses, their homes, their businesses to also bring people inside during this cold.

Um so just want everyone to know if you see someone, there is a lot of resource and support right now.

We are we should be able to find them a home, a hotel, or somewhere where I'm to stay.

We are all working on that.

I know we often want to put it on the government's, but everyone that calls in, you know, the government is slow, it doesn't always solve the problems, and really turning on to your neighbor, making sure that we open our doors is going to be the fastest and more secure way to make sure people are okay.

So heard, we'll keep working on that, but I'm also making sure that we're creating uh networks of care um in the immediate to make sure people are okay.

Who do we have next?

Next, madam chair.

We have Dr.

Denise Darnell.

Doc, you're up next.

Good morning.

Can you hear me?

Yes, we can.

Okay, good morning to all.

Um Dr.

Denise Darnell.

I live here in District 2.

And I want to thank council member at large, Mary Waters, and my council member Angela Whitfield Callaway, and of course, our mayor for that very successful uh press conference that was held at the Crystal House for human trafficking and all the work that that task force did.

It is very well needed.

I think that was an excellent event and very well publicized.

Um, and it brings more awareness to that problem.

And I believe every hotel and public space that's open for retail.

I hope they all have the flyer because I think that would be a big help.

Also, happy birthday to Brother Cunningham, and that's my comment.

God bless you all.

Have a good day.

Thank you.

You as well.

Next caller is Joyce E.

Jennings.

Jennings, you're up next.

Good morning, everyone.

Thank you for this time to speak on today.

Um, I first want to um give honor to the life of Brother Cunningham.

I pray God continues to grace him with um abundant life, health, and many years of advocacy, and it turns into actual solutions as we look at a new administration that's come on board and um approving people who have been are being positioned.

I think there would be no better um addition to the city of Detroit's administration, um, either the legislative or the executive side than to add Brother Cunningham, Michael Cunningham to the work of transportation in the city of Detroit.

Um this year, July 4th, 2026, we will celebrate the 250th um anniversary of the formation of the United States of America as I've been organizing with heirs across the United States.

Many of us have owned land in the United States for hundreds of years, and we have never lost our land and property and maintained our land and property.

Conversations are ongoing about what is happening and what has happened in the city of Detroit.

There is no reason that we should have a homeless population in the city of Detroit when we have all this land and property that is just sitting.

We know that there's a root cause to the problem that has occurred in Detroit.

We need to return all land and property back to the rightful owners and heirs of property in the city of Detroit.

Shelter should not be the first conversation when it comes to housing people in permanent homes.

We have homes, we have land, we should return back to the status of being a city with the um greatest number of homeowners in the not only the city of Detroit, state of Michigan, but throughout the United States.

Let's be the solution to the problem and bring forth healing throughout our lands.

God bless you all.

Thank you.

You as well.

The last caller before you cut off public comment is call in user one.

Call in user one, you're up next.

Can I be heard?

Yes, you can.

Happy New Year to all.

Umber Campbell, member uh Romero.

I would love it if you all can start turning the older buses into warming centers so that no one else has to freeze to death, like Tatiana Williams Children was allowed to freeze to death, and no one from council helped this woman so that her children would not have to pay the price and losing their life.

That should not never have to happen again.

Yet hotels were provided for those that uh had their houses in many different times.

This is inhumane.

Um, I also want to say, and I sent the email.

I'm noticing that the walkways is not being shoveled when it comes to Northwestern High School, um, going from uh 2200 West Grand all the way to 2355 West Grand Boulevard, and this is where the children have to walk to get to school.

We would love to see something happen.

Happy birthday um to you, Brother Cunningham.

Member Warders, you've been very unapproachable over the years and very hostile in your demeanor and can care less every single time that I've brought up about helping the children at Northwestern High School.

So the gentleman was correct.

You're extremely rude, non-helpful, and we hope that we don't have to deal with that in 2026 in any aspect.

Because you are elected, it is your job to make sure that all children are protected and shouldn't have to be homeless, and the hotlines are not taken.

Thank you, everyone, for calling in this morning.

And there were a lot of comments made around, excuse me.

Around the colds uh that we're going through.

Um, this is going to be cold for the next few weeks, folks.

Um, and as I mentioned, uh, there are a lot of people, businesses, private entities opening their doors to make sure that people are okay.

Um and I believe many of us are trying to let HRD in the city know what those resources are.

We want to know what those resources are so that we can connect people.

Um, so I highly encourage if you see anyone out on the streets in the next few weeks and during this cold that you give them this number.

This is the Detroit Housing Hotline.

This is 866-313-2520.

Again, 866-313-2520.

You can also always call our office at 313-224-2450.

I have social workers, caseworkers on my team that can help connect you to housing.

People deserve to be in safe, warm quality spaces.

And unfortunately, there have been news around our shelters.

But as a council, I know we are asking those questions.

There are many memos going around that those conditions and how we can make sure that they are better.

There are questions being sent through our office around public housing.

At one point in this country, we gave very beautiful quality housing that was public housing.

So how can we get back into that into that world or what does that look like for us?

Again, as we continue to work outside of this government system, which so many of our regular callers know does not work for us.

So thank you all for your advocacy for letting us know what we still have to do.

Just wanted to provide you some of those updates.

And unfortunately, we still have to continue forward to solve these things.

But we are here and we will.

Hearing no objections.

Under new business, under the Office of Contracting and Procurement.

This is for emergency demo at 257 Fortune.

Contractors sell a being trucking, they are in Detroit.

And this will be for 17,655.

6.2.

This is contract number 308659.

100% bond funding emergency demo at 48 3723rd Street.

Contractor here is SC Environmental.

They're in Detroit.

And this will be for 19,454.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 6.1 and 6.2?

Discussion.

Member McCampbell.

Well, I'll move a motion to discuss.

I'm sorry about that.

Discussion.

Vice Chair.

So I uh thank you, Madam Chair.

Just a couple of questions on this.

And I don't know if there's somebody on through an administration that can go through the process on getting emergency demo contracts.

And I have a few questions on also.

I see on the contracts that there are zero funds available on the fund that this is coming from.

So just have a few on that.

Thank you.

Perfect.

I have those questions as well.

Mr.

Washington, do we have our group exec on with us?

Anybody else to answer these questions?

Yes, good morning through the chair.

We do have group exec council.

If we can make a panelist.

Okay, thank you.

Hi, good morning, the one counts.

Um interim deputy director of public services.

Good morning.

Thank you for joining us.

I will turn it over to our vice chair who has a few questions before turn it over to myself and member waters to the vice chair.

Thank you.

Good morning, director.

I uh just had a few questions on 6.1 and 6.2, but uh with the if you could just give an overview on um the necessity around um these contracts coming through uh as emergency contract and how that process goes with you all and also for 6.1 to 6.2.

I'm saying that there are zero funds available out of the um neighborhood improvement bond.

So just wondering about the decision to pull to pull these contracts out of that.

Group exec.

Um through the chair, I'm not really certain about the funding portion of it.

That would be a question for um for finance.

Um, but I do know that on the emergency bid side or the emergency demo side, the order comes through from buildings of safety.

Um, and those properties are determined to be in um uh I'm sorry, of the correct terminology.

Those properties are deemed to be um a collapse hazard.

So it's deemed to be a safety issue to both the um neighboring properties as well as the public right-away.

Um, and so we are obligated to take those properties down as quickly as possible.

Uh thank you, Director Vice Chair.

Thank you, Director.

And um definitely appreciate that.

And uh see the need uh for sure to make sure that we're protecting public health and getting these buildings down as quickly as possible.

I for me um on this committee and coming to council.

I hope as we are moving forward, and I know a lot of this happened over recess of the last council, that we could do as much as possible to go through the regular order to get the contracts and and demos um so we can make sure that they that we discuss them um ahead of time before having to go to a to emergency contract.

But thank you, madam chair.

Thank you, Director.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

No, but that's a valid question.

Um group exec, it does say zero funding.

Do we have any idea where funding is pulled then for for these emergency contracts?

Through the chair on my side, it's showing as 100% bond funded.

So I'm not really certain what um what information that you all are seeing, but we definitely could get some clarity from ODFS or the finance team.

Okay, thank you.

We might it might be a good idea to just pull these back.

These are emergencies, they should have already happened.

Um, which is why since I've been chair here, we we've moved them out.

They've they've already been demolished.

It's about making sure people are paid for their work.

Um, but it's a new year.

Our bond funding has dwindled.

Um, and I I am curious to see how we're gonna move forward with demolitions in the city um when we've done so many already.

And I know new will come up, new ones will come up if we don't care for the structures that we have now.

Um, but I too had questions regarding the bond funding um and how we are going to be um uh paying for this work.

And then just another question.

Um director, I don't know if you have anything that you can share with us or any insights, but we're moving forward with demolition.

Do we know what kind of dirt we're using?

Um have we figured that piece out yet, at least as we move forward, are we no longer using um dirty dirt, or are we do we now have a system because we are still demolishing um where we're using clean dirt through the chair?

Yes, we have modified our protocols as relates to the source for our backfield.

Um the primary um concern, which was iron horse.

We have suspended use of that particular um pit.

Um, and then we have restricted our pit use um to uh I want to say the number is eight.

So there's only um eight pits that contractors can use, and we've increased our oversight in the past.

We were only requiring an annual inspection of those native pits.

Now we've moved to a monthly inspection.

So we can see the state of the location if it should change in a more um more expedient fashion than prior to.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Um that's good to hear.

Um and good to know uh because we're moving forward demolitions here in the city.

Uh Director Counts, there are I believe I might just bring these back in a week.

Um, unless you think differently, you think that there's anything on our agenda this year that's urgent.

Um, I do not think so.

Um, but if you do let us know, because there are other concerns if we move along to 6.3, which we are not officially discussing just yet, but these have tax clearances that have been expired.

Um so if there's a motion actually to discuss 6.3 motion.

Thank you.

Um director counts.

Do you have any insights or is this a question for the um OCP OCFO's office regarding this expired tax clearance?

Excuse me, madam chair.

Oh, to whoever is speaking that can't see you, if you wouldn't mind stating your name and title for the public.

Yes, my apologies for my camera being off.

I'm having some technical difficulties this morning.

This is Anthony Johnson at LPD.

Um, I did have an opportunity to uh get an updated clearance date for energy city contracting.

Uh Madam Chair, that's they have contract, which is law item 6.3, 6.8, 6.9, 6.10, 6.14, and 6.15.

Their new um insurance, I mean not insurance, their new clearance date is January 14, 2027.

I have circulated that information in the committee report that was sent on Friday.

Um, so those for those line items that contract or any inner city contract and clearance has been updated.

Thank you so much, Mr.

Johnson.

Appreciate that.

Okay, so and then these use 100% blight funding for these contracts, and we do have funds available under blights.

Um, so I would feel comfortable moving forward with 6.3.

Um, any of the inner cities.

Uh, yes, my member waters.

Thank you.

Uh well, first good morning, group executive.

Um, first of all, madam chair, I'm glad that you didn't ask the question.

Um, I'm happy to hear that they will closely monitor um uh vendors um in terms of where they get this dirt and so forth.

Um I'm happy to hear that.

Um what I want when it comes to these commercial properties.

I want to I'm gonna request a list of those commercial properties that are in collections and those that we have liens on.

Um, because I don't want to see us continue to spend city dollars um and demolishing these commercial properties, and then they turn around and get to build on themselves.

We don't we don't collect, we don't slap a lien on and take the property or whatever.

And uh so we're still out of money.

So I need an update on on that, and I'll be submitted that submitting that in writing.

Um so uh group executive council, you probably don't have any idea of where we are on those.

Is that correct or what through the chair?

I I cannot give that report um off the top of my head, but we can provide an update on where we are with um properties that are going through the process.

All of the commercial properties that we perform um emergency demolitions or schedule demolitions on um that are privately owned.

We do actively pursue reimbursement from those owners, but they're in various stages throughout the process, so we could definitely share that report with you.

All right then, thank you, thank you, madam chair.

Thank you, Member Waters.

Okay, folks, are there is there a motion to discuss 6.1 through 6.15?

Motion.

Thank you, member waters.

I will read through the rest of these contracts.

Um and then we can continue to discuss.

I have them have them set.

I did separate these out.

Excuse me.

Where we can bring back the bond funded demolitions because we do have questions around that funding, and the rest of the contracts have um have blight funding as well as a tax clearance that has been updated.

Uh so for 6.4 reading through the rest of these contracts.

6.4, this is contract number 308927, utilizing 100% bond funding for emergency demo at 15839 Beldon.

Contractors Detroit next, they're located in Detroit.

This will be for 16,000.

6.5.

This is contract number 3088928.

100% bond funding for emergency demo at 4306 Clements.

The contractor is SC Environmental Services in Detroit, and this will be for 24,184.

6.6 is contract number 308, 8929, 100% bond funding to provide emergency demo at 3031 17th Street, contractors SE environmental, and this is for 16,000 with 50 dollars.

6.7 contract number 3089097, 100% sponding for emergency demo at 769 Melborough.

Contractors DMC consultants, this is for 22,080.

6.8 contract number 3089299, 100% splite funding, emergency demo at 4420 St.

Albin.

Contractors inner city.

This is for 73,500.

6.9 contract number 3089301.

100% spawn funding for emergency demo at 1559 Lee Place.

Contractor is inner city.

This will be for 47,000.

It is for a larger apartment complex.

610 is contract number 3089302, 100% splight funding for emergency demo at 7089 Michigan.

Contractors Inner City.

This will be for 68,000.

Oh, this is our old antique store on Michigan Avenue.

It's been burned down a lot.

That's sad.

Moving this along.

6.11.

This is contract number 3089329, 100% bond funding to provide emergency demo at 7771 Burnett.

The contractors, DMC consultants, they are in Detroit's, and this is for 23,160.

6.12 contract number 3089527, 100% splight funding to provide emergency demo at 11780 Ohio.

Contractor is a Damo.

They're located in Detroit.

And this will be for 292,655.

And this is for a church, a burnt out church.

6.13 is contract number 3087967, 100% bond funding to provide emergency demo.

At 2573 Helen, the contractor is SC Environmental Services, and this will be for 17,500.

614 is contract number 3089760, 100% splight funding to provide emergency demo at 115 Harper Contract Harper, the contractor's inner city, and this will be for 29,000.

29,000.

And 615 is contract number 3089764, 100% splight funding to provide emergency demo at 12751 Harper, contractors inner city, and this will be for 28,850.

These are the uh all of the demolition contracts.

Um Frankly, I now have more questions.

Um Director Council, are you still on with us?

Madam Chair, just allow me to move for back over a panel.

Thank you.

Thanks for joining us again.

I just have can you clarify for us?

Um, because I remember there being conversations around sources being used for either commercial um or private, and we have here it looks like a mix of bonds being used for residential.

I'm trying to see if there was a bond for a commercial, but can you remind us again?

Are we able to use bond funding for commercial properties?

Through the chair, no, we're not.

So what you what you will see are um flight funds, which is our general um dollar funds, general funds being used on the commercial properties.

The residentials on the emergency side, we have used and will use the bond dollars to support those emergency residential demos.

Thank you.

Okay, and that's what I'm seeing here, and that's what I'm trying to just verify again, and that is correct.

Okay, all right.

Are there any other questions, colleagues?

For our demolition contracts hearing no questions regarding what's in front of us right now because the questions have been asked.

Are folks comfortable bringing back the bond funded contracts and moving out the blight funding?

Do we want to keep them all together until we discuss it all?

Um, what is the will of the body?

Through the chair through the chair, Mr.

Washington.

Yes, we also have Regina Greer who's joined from the budget office that could explain the bonding portion if you would like.

That would be great.

Yes, if we can bring her over as a panelist for us to learn more together, that'd be great.

She has been promoted.

Thank you.

Good morning.

Good morning.

If you wouldn't mind stating your name and title for the public, Regina Greer, Chief Deputy CFO for OCFO.

Thank you for joining us.

Um, we are discussing bond funded contracts for emergency demolitions.

We notice that um the TEDA report says they are zero funds available.

Would you have any idea how we are uh paying these contracts through which uh funding source to the chair?

Um, the funding for all residential has been um allotted through the bonds.

The goal for residential properties is to be paid from all bond funding, and that funding is available, so I would need to have that as a takeaway to understand why it's saying something different.

And then I believe as uh director counts noted, all commercials are um slated and assigned to the blight fund.

Got it.

So then we need to look at our teeter report because who to whoever was speaking?

Is that Mr.

Jones?

Mr.

Johnson, yeah, Mr.

Johnson here, Anthony Johnson, let's say policy division staff.

Uh, when I'm drafting the T report slash committee reports, there's a spreadsheet that uh that we receive in LPD that has information that's just raw from Oracle related to the appropriation, and when I check that appropriation number for that bond funding, it's showing and you know uh sufficient funds there.

If there is an amount that you know the funds are available, I would just need to see that so I can update the reports and recirculate these reports back out, madam chair.

But that's the information that I received um last week.

Okay, understood.

Thank you, Mr.

Johnson.

Okay, so it sounds like the funding is available, which is reflected in our documents here.

Um, I would like for us to receive that information before moving that forward.

Member Waters, uh, is is the group executive still on?

Yes, yes.

All right, I I just wanted to ask um you uh group executive counts if um other contractors um who received and laid the contaminated dirt.

Do we have a list of those as well?

Do we have a list of other contractors who received and laid the contaminated dirt from Ironhorse?

Do we have a list of those as well?

I've I only heard about one, so I just wondered if if we could have a list of the others who did the same thing through the chair.

We we we do have other contractors that have been identified.

Um if that information is can be shared because it is an active investigation.

Uh-huh.

Let you know.

I'll let we can let you know either way.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you, Member Waters.

Any other questions?

Um other questions?

No question, no question, Madam Chair.

But I have a motion.

Okay, what's your motion?

Um motion to bring back uh the bond funded uh contracts of 6.1, 6.2, 6.4, 6.5, 6.6, 6.7, 6.9, 6.11, 6.13 um in one week as the information gets the correct information gets updated on the funders source.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Just want to go over those numbers again.

There was a motion to bring back 6.1, 6.2, 6.4, 5, 6, 7, 6.9 and 13.

Those are the ones, madam clerk.

If we can if there's hearing no objections, are there any objections?

Hearing no objections, we will bring back those items in one week.

And is there a motion to send the remaining items to formal with the recommendation to approve?

So hearing no objections, the rest of the items will be sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

Thank you all for joining us.

I will now move us along to 6.16.

This is contract number 6007 381.

This is using 85% grant funding and 15% city funding.

And this would provide drones, maintenance, and supports for our fire departments.

The contractor is Dean's Partners group, and they are located in Illinois.

Colleagues, we have been asked to bring this back, TBD.

Um, so if there's are there any questions or discussions before uh I entertainment a motion to bring this back to BD.

Hearing none, 6.16 will be brought back TBD without objections.

Moving us along 6.17.

6.18 and 6.19 are all health department contracts.

617 is contract number 6005073, amendment number one.

This is utilizing 100% grant funding.

This is to provide an increase of funds for services for ending the HIV epidemic.

The contractor is Henry Ford Health.

They are located here.

This increased amount will be for 138,947 with 84 cents.

And again, these will be going to the health department.

6.18.

This is contract number 60058, excuse me, 5087 amendment number one to provide an increase of funds for program administrator for coordinating and managing medical and supportive services for low-income underinsured or uninsured persons living with HIV in the Detroit metro area.

The contractors Henry Ford Health Systems, this increased amount is for 421,000 with 76.31 cents.

And 6.19 is contract number 6006102 amendment number one to provide an increase of funds only for municipal ID card.

The this is for the Detroit ID program for the software system.

The contractor here is Omicron Tech.

They're located in what is LA Louisiana.

It's Louisiana.

They're looking in Louisiana.

Um, and then this will increase their amounts, their contract by 117,000.

Again, these are all contracts for the health departments.

Um we have seen a number of the grants uh come before this committee for their HIV epidemic programming.

Um, but wondering, colleagues, is there a motion to approve or discuss 6.17 through 6.19?

Motion to discuss.

Okay, vice chair.

Um, thank you, madam chair.

I just have uh if there's someone on from the health department, I just have a few questions on um 6.17 and 18.

Mr.

Washington, do who do we have to join us this morning for our health contracts?

Through the chair, we have Leah Smith online.

All right, if we can move Miss Leah Smith over as a panelist.

And through the chair, yes.

Uh, what number did we stop at?

We stopped at 17.

Uh, so we might have questions regarding the ID program.

Okay.

If we could promote uh Art Thompson as well, he'll be on standby for 6.19.

Okay.

Thank you.

Good morning.

Good morning, if you wouldn't mind stating your naming title for the public.

Um no problem.

Good morning.

My name is Leah Smith.

I am the director of administrative operations for the Detroit Health Department.

Good morning.

Thank you for joining us.

And I see we have Mr.

Thompson.

Is that you as well?

If you wouldn't mind stating your name and title for the public.

Absolutely.

Good morning.

Art Thompson, Chief Information Officer for the City of Detroit.

Thank you both for joining us to our vice chair.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Um, Ms.

Smith.

I have a question on the uh 6.17 and 6.18.

Uh just uh recognizing absolutely that this is important work just for the public and for uh members of the committee.

Can you share a few tangible um wins or progress that this initiative has um accomplished so far?

Yes, absolutely.

Um, so to be clear, one of the agreements is funded through the Ryan White Part A funding, and then one of the agreements is funded through the ending the HIV epidemic.

Both of those are grants funded directly through the Detroit Health Department from HERSA.

So we are a direct recipient of that funding.

For the Ryan White funding, that specifically covers um City of Detroit, Wayne County, Oakland County, Macomb County, Monroe County, Le Pierre County, and St.

Clair counties.

So as the recipient of the Ryan White Part A funding, we are also responsible for ensuring that HIV positive patients within those counties are also connected to the services that they need.

Um, specifically what the Henry Ford contract does is they provide um ambulatory services.

So they do provide rides for clients to meetings and treatment and doctor's appointments.

They also provide early intervention services, so making sure that clients who are tested positive are connected with services as early as possible.

So we have that detectable rate in HIV um decreased.

And then in addition to that, we also provide um various case management.

So for HIV positive patients, we make sure that they are aware of all of the services that they qualify for due to their positive status, as well as um additional medication services, insurance, housing, things like that.

Um, some specific wins is we have seen a decrease in the HIV positive numbers within the city of Detroit.

And in addition to those positive numbers being decreased, we've also noticed a decrease in what's called detectable.

So the you can be HIV positive but not have a detectable level in your system.

And so we've also seen an increase in those numbers as well, which is good because what that means is that people are getting treatment early and often.

Thank you so much for that.

Um I also have an additional question uh on the um it's it shows that the contract is ending next month.

So just wanted to um ask about the need for the increased amount now and um that work moving forward.

Yes.

Um through the chair, thank you for that question.

So the reason why these two amendments are coming before this body now is because we had to ensure that the subrecipient was comfortable with the language for the increase.

As you all are probably aware, Henry Ford has a very large legal team, and so working with them is a little bit more challenging than working with our other subrecipients.

However, we do owe them some funding for the work they've completed throughout this program year.

And so that's why we do need to have these increases approved.

These increases were due to an actual um, we ended up ending a subrecipient contract with another agency last spring.

And so almost all of our subrecipients funded through Ryan White Part A and ending the HIV epidemic received increases.

As far as the program status moving forward, I anticipate here within the next two to three weeks that this body will also be seeing a um sub-recipient agreements for both programs for new three-year agreements for approval to continue the work that all the subrecipients are doing through both of these funding sources.

Thank you.

And my last question for both of these um grants, have you seen um an uh impact by the federal government's actions to roll back um HIV program funding?

Um through the chair, so far we have not received any significant impact or decrease in funding as of yet.

We are highly monitoring the situation, and I do want to ensure both the committee and the public that the health department does have a contingency plan in place if a significant decrease was to occur.

Thank you so much, Ms.

Smith.

Um, and then I have one question for um Mr.

Thompson on uh 6.19.

If you could just, I know with the municipal ID, and and I know there's been a lot of great work around the program if for the again for our committee members here in the public, if you can just walk folks through um the any privacy or data concerns there and how that data is collected and what is kept or not.

Absolutely.

Uh so through the chair, I do ask Leah, correct me at any time if I I misspeak on your guys' process, uh, but I promise to try to stick to the technology piece.

Uh so when uh a resident comes in to get their Detroit ID, um, as everyone knows, you know, you need a piece of uh identification to say, you know, you are who you say you are.

Well, that is all we use to create the ID.

We do not uh take a copy, we do not um you know hold on to any of that information that leaves with you after you do so.

So when we create the ID, uh that information as far as your name uh and address is put into the application.

We work very hard with the vendor to make sure that once we hit submit and that ID is generated, that information leaves the application.

Uh it no longer sits inside of there.

We do not keep a log uh or print anything out from the application.

So it is essentially that proof that you have a Detroit ID is your card.

Uh we do not have a log.

We do not keep information on hand to say who got that ID.

So we try to make sure that privacy is kept, you know, as critical as it is.

This city takes it very serious, and we try to make sure that none of that information is held.

So uh from the application standpoint, none of that is retained.

Uh that leaves with you when you leave with your new ID.

Thank you so much.

Um, that's it from our question, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

I had very similar questions, so thank you.

Um, really, I think the last thing that I have um knowing what's the additional money is being for, being used for, and knowing that there's going to be an extension to this work to the services provided um to the health department.

Would it be possible for us to work together?

Because I'm assuming you're keeping track, you're collecting the data.

Um, but could this committee um get that's that report?

Um, the presentation on the funding sources, where they've come from, how we've been using them and those and those wins, I think will be huge.

Um, I'm sure if you listen in uh to this committee, we are often asked what's the health department doing?

Here's an opportunity to provide um that space to hear from folks because you are doing really incredible work.

Um so let's try to get that scheduled uh in this committee before those new contracts come.

Uh might be hard because I know the budget season is coming, um, but at least having something that people can review uh would be really wonderful.

Um that was my ask of the health departments um giving the other answers to those questions um into our chief.

Um I've got nothing for you either.

I just really wanted to reiterate the fact that um here in Detroit, our Detroit ID is safe.

Um we worked really, really hard to make sure that we protected everyone's um information.

Um and I'm really grateful for the administration for for doing that in these um in these scary times, uh, but we have to do what we what we can to protect and to provide services to our residents.

So thank you all.

Um hearing no other questions for 6.17 through 6.19.

Is there a motion to approve and to send to new business with the recommendation to approve?

Motion to um approve and send to um formal with the recommendation to approve.

Thank you.

Hearing no objections, that will be done.

Mr.

Vice Chair, would you mind making a motion to new business?

Yeah, I'm sure.

Oh, thank you, Dr.

Powers.

I was just going to say uh the motion didn't include sending it to new business, but I think you were about to catch that.

Thanks, Dr.

Powers, who is online, making sure that I have um myself in check.

Appreciate that.

Is there a motion to send to new business all three items?

There was a request.

So move.

Thank you.

Hearing no objections, 6.17 through 6.19 will be sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

Thank you, everyone.

Thank you.

Moving us along, 6.20.

Yes, 6.20.

This is contract number 6005898 amendment number two to provide an increase of funds for vehicle body repair service, labor and or parts.

The contractors, Jefferson Chevrolet, they're located here in Detroit.

The increased amount will be 90,000, bringing this total contract to 200,000.

And this will be for police.

Is there a do is there a motion to discuss 6.20?

Motion to discuss.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

I believe we might all have questions for this, Mr.

Washington.

Who do we have to discuss 6.20?

We have Captain Jason Adams joining joining us.

If we can make them into a panelist.

He has been promoted to panelists, madam chair.

Thank you, and good morning.

Captain, if you wouldn't mind standing your name and title for the public.

Good morning, Captain Jason Adams from the management services section, Detroit Police Department.

Thank you for joining us.

Just want to ask why the increase.

Uh why the ask, what do you intend to access with this increase?

Uh the vendor Jefferson Chevrolet is our only vendor to conduct accident damage, collision damage repairs for our UC vehicles.

And uh due to the um unpredictable nature of vehicle accidents and repairs needed, additional funds are requested to um facilitate that.

Understood.

Uh and do we know how many more vehicles are down that need repair?

Uh I don't have a list now that can be provided.

However, due to Michigan roads and traffic collisions in general, um, we can anticipate that additional vehicles may be involved in accidents and need repairs.

Understood.

So this is a a proactive move.

We currently don't have a shortage of funds for repairs.

Oh, we do need funds.

I don't have the exact amount for the the outstanding repairs.

Uh, but we are approaching the end of the available funds.

We have about $7,000 left.

Okay.

Okay.

It would be helpful to know where you are in your process of repairs.

Um, because it'll be good to know where our money flows, because we we get asked often to add more.

I would just like to know where we are in the process.

Um, and if we could receive that information, that would be very helpful.

Um, and I do believe actually that I have a meeting with DPD this week to do our check-ins.

Um, there's also a lot of other this sounds like it's for repair only, correct, Captain?

Uh repairs and maintenance, I believe.

Repairs and maintenance only.

So it's not for purchasing new vehicles, because we have a whole other system for that as well and other funding sources for that as well.

Just want to make sure I'm I'm keeping track of all the things because you can begin to lose track.

Um I I would rather, if you wouldn't mind, Captain, I'm not sure if you plan to be a part of those meetings that we have in our office with departments.

Um would like to get a better picture of of what this looks like.

Um, but wondering if there's any other questions for 6.20 um before I move us along, I vice chair.

Um thank you, madam chair.

Captain, uh a couple of questions on uh recognizing that you said that you all have 7,000 left, and if we broke down the numbers on average with this contract, it looks like about um roughly 55,000 has been used per year.

Um and see the contra the increase is 90k asking.

Um could you just go through the rationale for around the 90k as opposed to an average on what has been used so far?

Captain?

Yes, the uh the contract's like to expire uh January 31st of 2027.

This request for funds would take us to the duration of the contract.

Absolutely, yes.

Um recognizing that through the chair.

I'm just asking, so January 31st would take us another year, and so far it's been a roughly about 55k used per year.

So wondering why the 90 instead of the 50 instead of less than that to match with the average that has been used.

The uh the average can be somewhat misleading, like I said, due to the unpredictable nature of vehicle damage and what's needed for collisions.

The maintenance costs are pretty reasonably projected.

Um, but vehicle collision repairs are very expensive and they can be in the uh several thousand dollars or uh in some cases um much higher than that, depending on the condition of the vehicle.

Yeah, thank you.

And final question on the recognizing for accidents.

I know there's they're called accidents for a reason.

Um do you have a breakdown of how many of those have been um at fault for the officers or caused by um someone else?

We do.

I don't have it immediately available, but that can be provided.

Okay, thank you so much.

Uh I just want to get that and as we're seeing um an increase and no accidents and I know um when we get to snow and we had a very busy winter so far.

Just want to if there is a need for increased training around um driving or such for officers would definitely encourage the department to look into that as well.

Um thank you, madam chair.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Member Waters, you have any questions for 620?

No.

All right.

Um to our captain, um, please, if you can do join our meeting, we'll send you the information for that check-in.

I just need to get a better picture.

Again, there's a lot of pots of money, lots of funding, lots of ways to do things.

Um, and I just want to have it all clear in my head.

And if you can bring that information around the accidents, if these are um errors on our hand or airs from the public, uh, that would be helpful to know.

Um, and then um just also would like to know the cadence and just what's these winters look like for police and vehicles, um, so that we can better understand and support you moving forward, um, which is what we are here to do.

So if there's no other questions for 620, I'm gonna ask to bring this back in one week without objection for us to have that conversation, and we can come back um and I'm sure move this out if we have no other questions and concerns.

So thank you, Captain.

We appreciate you.

Hope you stay warm, and we'll see you soon.

Thank you.

Moving us along to six points 21.

This is contract's number um 6007531.

This is using 100% CDBGR funding.

This is to provide traffic signal connectivity and backup power services.

The contractor here is Mortar City Electric Utilities.

They are here in Detroit.

This will be for two years at 9 million dollars.

Is there a motion to discuss?

So motion to discuss.

Thank you, Mr.

Washington.

Do we have our director Brendage with us for this conversation?

Who else should we bring up?

Yes, Director Brundage is on, and if we can promote Chris Jones as well.

Okay, if we can make them both into panelists.

They have both been promoted, Madam Chair.

Thank you.

Good morning, madam chair.

Good morning.

Are you director?

If you wouldn't mind setting a naming title for the public, Ron Brundage, director of DPW.

Good to see you.

Happy New Year.

Good morning.

We are discussing a nine million dollar contract.

Um, and I believe Mr.

Jones has joined us before moving on, if you wouldn't mind uh introducing yourself.

Hi, Chris Jones, Office of Contracting and Procurement.

Hello, thank you for being here.

Um we have a nine million dollar contract.

Um, if folks can please share with the public what they can expect through this contract.

This is for traffic signal connectivity and backup power services.

Um if you can share a little bit more about what this is, and then we can get into some some more questions that we have.

Sure, uh madam chair.

Um as you recall last year, the city of Detroit received a 346 million dollar uh federal grant from HUD uh to help address and mitigate issues that were directly resulting from uh major storms.

Uh the majority of that funding uh went towards projects that were designed to uh reduce flooding uh and the impact of flooding uh to our residents throughout the city.

Our nine million dollars were set aside uh for this particular project, acknowledging that uh in addition to the flooding that occurs during major storms, it's also uh not uncommon for that to be accompanied by power outages, uh, which result in traffic signals going out.

Uh so this particular project is going to accomplish uh a couple different things.

Uh the first is that we we currently have about 198 of our 800 traffic signals that are not connected to our traffic management center.

Uh a portion of this funding will be used to connect the balance that 198 signals uh to our traffic management center so that they can be remotely monitored, so that in the event that there's a signal malfunction, we'll get an immediate notification uh so that we can minimize the time that the signal uh is out until it's repaired and restored to uh red, yellow, and grain colors.

Uh this project also provides for uh installing up to 150 traffic cameras uh at uh at uh various locations, and uh because traffic cameras are a part of this particular project.

We did go through the COX process, and I believe the COX report is attached uh to what uh was submitted uh from curement or from procurement.

Uh and then finally the project also uh provides for installing uh backup generators uh at uh at uh our our various signature uh various uh signalized intersections throughout the city, uh backup generated switches, and what this will allow us to do is that if there is a power outage uh at a signal as opposed to that signal operating uh as a four-way stop uh signal, which is not ideal uh from a safety standpoint, it'll allow us to quickly bring in portable generators, uh connect them to those switches so that uh we can restore power to those signals until power is restored to that particular area.

Understood.

Thank you.

Do we the videos you mentioned, the the the monitors that we are connecting?

Um we are not moving them correct, we're just connecting them to our system.

We're connecting to our system.

We currently have uh several signals that have uh the similar cameras to them and it allows us to remotely uh monitor the conditions of those intersections uh from our traffic management center.

Uh it provides data that allows us, if needed to make adjustments to signal timing uh to also collect data uh to so that we can make adjustments if needed uh to make the intersection safer.

Okay.

Thank you.

And thank you for the mention of the Sea Augs report.

Anyone that is interested, um, and I I know that there's conversations around surveillance and just capturing data, please do read the report so that you're up to date on what this contract will entail.

Um, to that director, um, there are a lot of concerns of surveillance of collecting data, especially right now in this political climate of federal agencies accessing this information.

Um can you share with us whether or not you know um this will be shared at all?

I know this is for traffic signaling.

Um, so what will these videos uh what will be their primary purpose?

Uh their primary purpose will be to capture uh traffic related data uh so that we have the information and the tools that we need uh in the event that we feel adjustments need to be made uh to make an a signalized intersection safer.

Uh it's not going to be shared uh with anyone.

Uh we uh our traffic management center is co-located uh within the DPD uh DPD uh command center.

Uh so uh that information could be if if needed, could also be provided to DPW, but that information would not be available to the uh to the general public.

Okay.

To the general public, um, that's great.

But since this will be housed in the public safety headquarters, do you have any idea?

And I full transparency, I haven't read to the whole CEOs report just yet.

We'll do so before this gets to the full committee.

Um, but uh being housed in the public safety headquarters.

Do you have any idea um if DPD will access this this information at all?

Uh not on a regular basis, uh Madam Chair, but uh any event that there's an accident uh that occurs and it's uh it's uh able to reviewed from the cameras uh that are part of this uh this particular system.

Uh if there's an investigation needed, of course, we'll work with DPD in that particular case.

Okay.

So sounds like if it's for investigations.

Um just to note, we will make sure that if we were to support this that we feel comfortable about the safety of the data.

Um, so far sounds like it will just be used for anything that has an investigation, a criminal investigation tied to it, um, which is understood.

I know that's how um that's how DPD says we do our work here.

Um since we're talking about videos and cameras, um will these be at all used for trying to prevent um dumping, or is that a whole different conversation, whole different camera system that we may or may not be using?

Because I I believe even if we don't have real cameras, maybe it's just neighbors putting up fake cameras or something.

Um, but I know that we're often asked to do this to install cameras to prevent um dumping as well.

So, madam chair, uh these particular cameras won't be used for illegal dumping surveillance.

That is a separate uh a separate program.

We don't really see a lot of illegal dumping uh in the middle of a signalized intersection generally.

So uh I don't I don't know if we would get a lot of value.

Of course, if it were to occur, uh that would be captured uh by the cameras uh at those intersections, but uh illegal dumping at intersections is not something that signalized intersections, though obviously much more heavily traveled, it's not something that we see uh on a frequent basis.

Okay, thank you.

Are there any other questions for 6.21, Vice Chair?

Thank you, madam chair.

I just um I have a question on uh maybe to the director.

Um on the COGS report here.

I know you mentioned that it may be shared with DPD for investigations.

Um I see in the report here that um it the data will not be utilized to identify vehicle operator speeding or illegally driving through their rare traffic lights.

And there was mention of the PII um not um not being available on the recording.

Is there something in the system that blurs out license place or anything like that to prevent um this data from being shared?

Or is it just that if we share this, for example, with DPD to understanding us that they wouldn't be able to use this for that?

Uh through the chair, uh the the the cameras that we're installing uh as part of this system, uh they don't have the capability to uh uh to focus in and read license plates.

They don't have license plate reader technology, uh so they wouldn't be able to capture uh that type of information.

Uh and also as indicated in the report, you know, this data is really we're really capturing data to be used for traffic analysis uh perspective.

We're not uh looking at uh this information is not going to be used to identify vehicles that may run through a red light.

Uh there's nothing in that uh in that the state law that allows for uh uh for residents to be ticketed uh using this type of technology.

Uh again, it's gonna be used specifically uh for capturing data to allow us to make adjustments if needed to make the intersection more safer uh from a traffic uh perspective.

Thank you so much.

And just for and this may be a question, I'm not sure the Madam Chair, if you know who this question could go to, but with the cape since this has been, I know it was on council beforehand on this, but since this has been gone through with the traffic cameras before and the ability for potentially for DPD to get it for like crash investigations.

Is this something that needs to go before the uh Board of Police Commissioners on that?

That's a good question, Vice Chair.

And I'm not sure.

I believe when it comes to this is public works, I wonder if that would have to be through DPD, because I know a lot of DPD contracts, they do go through the Board of Police Commissioners.

Um the chair.

Would you happen to know if this went before them?

Uh I I don't believe in uh uh Chris Jones is off on the call.

He can uh he can uh respond if I uh if I provide some inaccurate information.

Uh this particular contract uh uh and prior contracts that uh have been approved by city council in the past for the uh same type of technology and other traffic signals uh throughout the city, uh didn't require going through the board of police commissioners.

Uh but I don't know if Mr.

Jones can provide any additional information.

Mr.

Jones.

I would have to uh we have to review it, but I was it was my understanding that this did not uh have to go because it was a DPW uh contract, but be glad to look into that and get back with you.

Thank you.

That's what I figured too, since it's DPW, not DPD, since it's not going to be, and as I were asking the questions, is it going to be used by DPD?

It sounds like it will not.

Um unless they ask them for information.

The information that they ask for looks like it's not going to be licensed plate reader, so maybe more of trying to see how things happen when they happen.

Um but would you like us to bring this back until we get that clearer question, or do you feel comfortable?

I would like to bring it back in one week just so we can just get that clarification on there.

I I am a supportive of of the spirit of the contract and making sure that we increase um the traffic flow and be able to have the connectivity there.

I just want to be sure that we're um following that in that way.

Okay, thank you.

To the chair.

Uh Mr.

Washington.

Yes, um, director stahl has joined us as well for that question.

If you would like to promote her.

Sure, we can we can promote director stahl.

Um while she's being promoted, member waters you have any questions for this contract.

Uh no, ma'am, thank you.

Okay.

So we'll chat with our director.

Good morning, if you wouldn't mind seeing your name and title for the public.

Good morning.

Uh Sandra Staw, Chief Procurement Officer.

Thank you for joining us.

Um you are here to answer which question.

Oh, does this have to go before the police commissioners?

Do you know the answer to that?

Uh through the chair, no.

The COGS ordinance requires BOPC involvement for DPDs, COGS contracts only.

So this one, because it is DPW for traffic signals, does not need to go to the BOPC.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Vice Chair.

No, thank you so much, Director Stallin.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Okay.

So this does have a CONS report included.

Please do review that, folks.

If you have any questions around the use and data for this contract, um, we now heard it does not need to go before the Board of Police Commissioners, which makes me feel comfortable moving this out.

Um, unless there are any other questions or concerns.

Um, but if there are if they are none, it looks like they're none.

Is there a motion to send this to formal with the recommendation to approve?

Motion hearing or objections.

Hearing no objections, six point twenty-one will be sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

Thank you all for joining us.

Thank you.

Moving us along under the department of administrative hearings, 6.22.

This is the dangerous buildings findings and orders for December 19th of 2025.

Is there a motion to receive and file?

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 6.22 will be received and filed.

Under the building safety and engineering departments, 6.23 is a recommendation to defer.

8132 Whittaker.

Is there a motion to approve?

Motion.

Hearing no objections.23 will be approved.

Um and this is wonderful because it gives the property owner some time to continue to work on their buildings.

We love to see that.

That's right, Member Waters.

We love a deferral, especially if we know folks are working on their properties.

Moving us along to the office of chief financial officer, office of development and grants.24 is to request and appropriate the state of Michigan fiscal year 2025 early voting grants.

And 6.25 is to accept an increase in appropriation for the fiscal year 2024.

Bryan States Crisis Intervention Program grants.24 and 6.25.

Excuse me.

There's one more grants application here.

6.26.

This is to authorize and submit a grants application to the Southeast Michigan Council of Governments for the fiscal year 2026 Safe Streets now grants.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 6 points 24 through 6.26?

Motion to discuss.

Vice Chair.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I just have a oh, I have questions on all of them.

But uh if we can start with uh 6.24, if there's anyone from the clerk's office or whoever would be appropriate.

Mr.

Washington, do we have anyone from the clerk's office to discuss six points 24?

The chair.

I would have to defer to the clerk.

Oh, to the clerk's office.

Anyone online?

It does not seem like we might.

Madam Clerk.

Okay, thank you.

So we'll check that now.

Madam Clerk, we can bring this up at the end and we'll see if there's anyone here to discuss.

Um so bring back minutes.

6.24.

Mr.

Vice Chair.

Uh for 6.25.

Is there someone on from DPD to discuss that?

Mr.

Washington?

Yes, through the chair, we have Captain Amber Robinson Roberson online.

If we can make them into a panelist.

They have been promoted, Madam Chair.

Thank you.

Okay.

Good morning.

If you wouldn't mind stating your name and title for the public.

Morning, Captain Amber Robertson, Detroit Police Department 10th Precinct.

Thanks for joining us, Captain Vice Chair.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Good morning, Captain.

Just uh one question on this one.

Uh is it what is my understanding that this grants helps with the extreme risk protection orders?

Um have we seen this funding help reduce the amount of gun-related incidents and and help people get the assistance that they need?

Good morning, sir.

This grant um got off to a late start, is just starting, so I can't I don't have any numbers to back that up.

But from talking with um Patty Kukla, who is the sub-recipient of this, it seems to be working well as it starts.

Thank you, Captain.

And um, just for folks when we talk about extreme risk protection orders.

I definitely uh No, no, no, this is not about extreme risk protection orders.

This is about reducing juvenile gun violence within the 10th precinct.

Okay.

All right, my apologies.

I stand corrected.

All right, I will uh that's it that I have, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Captain, just to confirm this will only be used for the 10th precinct, then correct.

Is the 10th precinct the only precinct that has this kind of programming?

I can't answer that.

Okay, but you know that you do.

But I do, yes, ma'am.

Okay.

Um, and how long have you been doing this kind of work?

Or this is awarded in 2024, but um DPSF did not hire a project manager until May of 2025.

So they started the first contractor started in June of 2025.

Okay.

All right.

Um, well would be interested to hear how that goes.

Um, and I think we need to try all of the things to help us reduce uh youth gun violence.

Um so thank you, Captain.

Are there any other questions for 6.25?

Madam Chair.

Vice Chair.

Uh thank you so much.

And Captain, related to that, I know uh the uh 10th precinct.

Uh do you are you all working with any CVI groups in this as well?

No, we do not have CBI groups in the 10th precinct.

Okay, all right.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Thank you, Captain.

I think we will now turn it over to discuss six points 26.

There were questions on this as well, Vice Chair.

Yes.

Okay.

Thank you.

Mr.

Washington, who do we have to discuss six points 26?

The chair, we have Ricky Amakora.

If we can make them into a panelist, they are promoted.

They just need their camera on, ma'am.

Thank you.

My apologies, madam chair.

All good, good to see you.

If you wouldn't mind saying your name and title for the public.

Thank you for joining us, Vice Chair.

Thank you so much, and good morning.

If you could just um let folks know, so this grant is for the to be able to install 100 new ADA compliant bus shelters at high priority stops.

Is that correct?

Uh, through the chair, uh council member.

This is actually uh part of the overall program to install 100 shelters.

Okay.

Uh we found this opportunity to fund uh shelters, but not only from a safety perspective, but also my multimodal perspective, which means that various forms of transportation can congregate around particular bus stops.

We are addressing bus stops that have only a stop and or a bench to improve the amount of safety that are there.

This funding we estimate will uh help with about 25 to 30 of the shelters, thus freeing up other money that we had already allocated for the 100 shelter project, or have uh planned for that other hundred, uh the other well, for the entire 100 uh shelter project.

Uh we would have to allocate less to that project.

Thank you so much.

And I know there's this definitely a need to have more shelters across the city.

Uh do you could you go into the criteria determining which stops are high priority here?

Sure.

Uh the criteria that goes into it is number of bus boardings.

It's it's our Title VI program.

So need of the community, members that are vulnerable in the community, number of overall boardings, and uh capability for uh ADA access, etc.

Thank you.

And I know you said this is about the overall this helps to overall uh fund that overall program.

Are they do you have a list or uh map of how those uh stops are distributed across districts that you can share?

I do.

Actually, we can share that with the council.

Uh we will do so uh at our earliest uh opportunity.

Thank you so much.

Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Um, and yes, thank you, sir.

This is definitely a huge need in the city.

Um, just wondering the new bus shelters as we create them.

Um, these are EDA compliant concrete bus shelters.

Any idea if these will be heated?

I know that some are, some aren't.

Um, what are the kinds of models that we're looking at here?

Uh Madam Chair, uh the through you, the the shelters are not going to be heated.

We are trying our best to provide shelters first.

Uh you are right.

Some of the shelters are heated.

These are in various uh locations throughout the city, and uh to actually um implement that would probably limit the locations that we could do it.

So this is based upon our title six requirements.

Get more shelters out there for sheltered.

And then uh in the future, we could probably work on heated ones.

Understood.

Okay.

I respect that strategy, understanding the need um and the resources available.

Okay, great.

Um, that was questions for 6.26.

Um, thank you, Mr.

Jamakura.

I believe that is all that we have for you at the moment.

Mr.

Washington, anyone here for six points twenty-four yet?

Anyone from the clerk's office?

Oh, madam clerk.

Uh, we are reaching out to elections at this time, so we'll get back to you as soon as we nail some more.

Okay.

So then if that's the case, is there a motion to approve six points 25 and 6.26?

So move.

There's been a motion to send six points 25 and 6.26 to formal with the recommendation to approve.

Hearing no objections, we will do so.

Moving us along to the general services departments, 6.27.

This is a request for a non-exclusive gas easement allowing DTE to modernize their aging gas line infrastructure.

Is there a motion to approve or discuss 6.27?

Motion to discuss.

Vice Chair.

I just have one question on orders work and easements this for I believe so, and we can confirm that Mr.

Washington.

Anyone to discuss 6.27?

Yes, through the chair, we have Alex Weather up.

Okay, if we can make them into a panelist.

Good morning, Alex Weatherup, Assistant Director General Services.

Good morning.

Thank you for joining us.

Um to our vice chair.

Thank you.

Good morning.

I just have a question on uh 6.27.

On the work, is this contained within Fort Wayne or will it interfere with any sidewalks or pedestrian access?

Through the chair, this is um it is falls within the historic Fort Wayne um land area, which is why it was deferred to our department.

Um, we haven't heard of any um sidewalks or other pedestrian areas that will be affected by it, just the the grassland in the the park.

All right, thank you so much.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

And looking at the map, it is all within the Fort Wayne blueprint.

Um I believe, are there any other questions for 6.27?

If not, is there a motion to approve?

So move.

Hearing no objections, 6.27 will be approved, sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

Thanks, Alex.

Moving us along under the departments of public work, city engineering departments.

Uh 6.28.

This is the petition of Barg Brothers to vacate uh a request for a vacation with reserve of utility easements.

Uh this will be bounded by Michigan Avenue and Grand Truck Railroad.

Uh, there were no objections from DPW or the water departments for this.

6.29 is a petition of the Arab American and Chaldean Council request for multiple encroachments.

Uh this will be for existing aines, light fixtures, and security cameras for the installing of these assets.

6.30 is a petition of uh mevna more, a request to vacate with the reservation of utility easements a portion of the north-south public alley.

Uh they have heard no objections from departments uh for this request.

There's a petition 6.31 is a petition of Durga Temple.

This is a request for an encroachments.

Uh this will be for a below grade PVC storm water pipe.

6.32 is a petition of Tri-Vision LLC.

Is it a request uh to vacate with the reservation of utility easement?

And there have been no objections from departments here as well.

6.33 is a petition of equity alliance management.

They are requesting a reserve uh a vac to vacate with the reservation of utility easement, a public alley for their expansion in D6.

6.34 is a petition of the 20201 development LLC, a request for several encroachments for building of mounted canopies.

Those are the requests down under our DPW section 6.28 through 6.34.

Is there a motion to discuss or approve these items?

Motion to discuss motion to discuss, vice chair.

I just have one question on this for 6.28.

Okay.

Mr.

Washington, who do we have to discuss 6.28?

We have Richard Dorothy online.

If we can make them into a panelists, morning, ma'am.

Chair.

Good morning.

Good to see you.

If you wouldn't mind stating your naming title for the public, uh Richard Dougherty, city engineer.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Thank you, Mr.

Doherty.

Um, so just to be clear, this is vacation of a street, and does the city on the street or the 29th Street right now in this area that's being vacated.

Please uh I didn't quite hear the uh agenda item that we're referencing.

I know we got seven on six point twenty-eight six point twenty-eight.

Yes, the uh petitioner is looking to uh vacate a portion of the street and make it a part of their parcel or site for development.

Uh we had concerns about leaving a small uh dead end road in place.

They've uh granted us a uh right-of-way uh on some property, and they are going to construct what's considered a hammerhead, it's not quite a full cul de sack, but uh given the short nature of the remaining street, it'll allow vehicles that happen to turn down their excuse me.

You know, they'll be able to turn around and get back out the way they came in without having to enter private property.

So that was a condition of the uh vacation of this uh uh short section of right-away.

All right, thank you, Mamcha.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Any other questions for any of these requests?

Hearing none, member waters made a motion to approve six point twenty-eight through six point thirty-four.

Are there any objections?

Hearing on six point twenty eight through six point thirty four will be sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

If I could please send if there's a motion to send six point thirty three to new business.

Thank you, member waters.

Six points thirty-three will be approved, sent to new business with the recommendation to approve.

Um, the nonprofit reached out to our office to help expediate this process for them.

We're happy to do so.

Again, they're expanding their nonprofits' footprints in Midwest Hireman, which is very exciting.

Moving us along under miscellaneous 6.35 is a memo request for shelter inspection.

Uh, we've been hearing a lot of issues regarding shelters.

We have been asked to bring this back in two weeks without objections.

6.35 will be brought back in two weeks.

6.36 is a memo for a resolution submitting Michigan bills 508 and 510.

Uh these two or these three Senate bills.

Um for protections.

Six uh excuse me, Senate Bill 508 is to uh limit ice and immigration enforcements and sensitive locations.

Senate Bill 509 is that we have no data sharing and that we have privacy protections, which is why this body is asking all those questions regarding how we capture and how we use.

Uh so without objection, 6.36 will be brought back in one week, um, and hope to get uh this through at the state level.

I will be um giving testimony on this this week.

Um, and our office along with some of my colleagues here.

Um I know are in support of moving this forward here locally.

So thank you, everyone.

Moving us along to 6.37.

This is a memo relative to Detroit Police Department interactions with ICE, and we have been asked to bring this back into weeks.

So without objections, 6.37 will be brought back in two weeks.

6.38.

This is a memo relative to request for inspiring in information on inspections of shelters in Detroit.

This is the member waters' office.

We've been asked to bring this back in two weeks.

Member Waters, um, do you have a preference do you want to discuss?

Are you okay with bringing this back in two weeks?

Uh is is that thank you, madam chair.

Is that the time that LPD needs?

Yes.

All right, then that's fine.

Okay.

Uh so without objections, 6.38 will be brought back in two weeks.

6.39 is a memo requesting information on the quick claim deeds of the city of Detroit residential properties.

We have also been asked to bring this back in two weeks.

Member Waters.

All right, motion is okay.

Okay, 6.39, hearing no objections.

We will be brought back in two weeks.

6.40 a memo requesting information on notaries, public in Detroits and services for low-income residents.

The request here was to bring back in two weeks.

Motion.

Hearing no objections, 6.40 will be brought back in two weeks.

We have a few things to go back to.

I see our clerk is here to see you.

Good morning.

Good morning.

You're here to discuss 6.24.

No.

No.

Um at this time, 6.24, no one is available at the Department of Relations.

Is anybody we can ask for that to be put in writing so that department did answer those questions?

No one's available at this time.

Okay, so you're asking for a memo.

Is this in writing?

Okay, is this urgent?

Can we bring this back in a week to to receive that information?

I have no idea.

We don't know.

Legacy, it's the department of elections.

Sure.

And that's available.

I would just say the submitted and writing the questions that you have.

Okay.

Toward vice chair.

Um Madam Chair, I I can I'm happy to submit my questions right now.

Um election preparations are underway, so I'm fine with that.

Okay, sounds good.

And then would you like for us to bring this back in a week until we receive that information?

Or moving this forward?

I would actually our motion to approve.

Okay.

There's been a motion to approve six points twenty-four.

Are there any objections?

Hearing none, six point twenty-four will be brought.

Oh, excuse me, we'll be sent to formal with the recommendation to approve.

Those questions will be asked offline.

Um it doesn't seem that we have to.

We weren't requested to send to new business, so I think that's okay.

Thank you, Member Waters.

Um with that the other bring back we had was for the minutes.

Of course, thank you.

Have folks received the minutes.

Um Madam Clerk.

Yes, just to let you know that the minutes have been emailed to each of you.

Thank you.

Motion to approve the minutes.

There's been a motion to approve the minutes.

Are there any objections?

Hearing none.

Our minutes will be approved.

I believe that is it for us.

Thank you all.

We are now down to member reports.

Uh to our vice chair.

Thank you, madam chair.

Uh, I would just um a couple of items that on to on Wednesday.

It is Monday on Wednesday, January 28th at 5 30 p.m.

Um, we'll have our district seven community swearing in and a vision and session, so invite folks out.

We've gotten a great response so far, and just encourage people if you are able to brave the code weather to join us at St.

Suzanne's um on Wednesday, January 28th at 5 30.

And uh I will also say that um I appreciate Madam Chair your work and making sure that folks are protected, especially from the actions of ICE in the city and throughout.

Um, I know folks are as we continue to see ICE Asians.

Um just really just uh execute people on our streets.

Um it is both uh inferior than it is uh one that something that should not be happening and something that should be stopped, and also just a continuation of what we've seen in the um our in ice in our communities and the the view that we should be terrorizing communities and terrorizing folks and killing them even just for protesters.

So I just want to say that that this is something that um should not be happening, and I am glad to be on council colleagues that also share their view.

Thank you.

Thank you, Vice Chair.

Member Waters.

Thank you, madam chair.

So um this Saturday from 10 a.m.

to noon, uh we will have a um deep fraud uh protection uh town hall meeting.

Um the the first one there will be a series of of those town halls.

The first one, which is gonna be this Saturday from 10 a.m.

to noon, will be in District 2 partnering with um council member um Callaway on that and you know we have we have a list of so many homes that have just been stolen uh throughout this city and and that is shameful.

So we have to do all that we can to work with both um Wayne County along with the state of Michigan uh so that we can help to educate people and we can put some measures in place to protect people and their home ownerships.

So that's this uh Saturday from 10 a.m.

to 12 noon at the Northwest Activity Center, 18100 Myers.

Hope to see you there.

It's also hybrid, so if you can't make it out in person, please join us online.

Thank you.

Thank you, Member Waters.

Um just a reminder for I believe all of my colleagues and our staff, we have our orientation day two, part two this Friday.

Um so just a friendly reminder to be there together to learn together, um, and to build to to build stronger partnerships and relationships.

Um thank you, Member Waters, for what you're doing, and I know many offices um during uh tax season and um uh when we have folks that might be in foreclosure um or in danger of many of us are ondoors um making sure people know about these services, so we will continue to do so.

There was a uh a comment made during public comments around how we help repay folks that may have been over-assessed.

Um we are looking at our office is looking at um how if if we're being told we can't just give money back, can we give credit, some tax credit back to folks um uh for the full or for some amounts, so they're able to at least save money moving forward.

Wanted to show that that we are looking into how we can try to compensate folks.

It's not easy, but I do but think it's possible, and that is one option uh for us to do so.

Um and uh thank you to our vice chair for um your dedication to making sure that we protect everyone.

Just want to make it very clear because unfortunately, if and I'm sure when we continue to see um violence coming from our federal agents here locally, we're going to continue to be pushed to do more.

Um I just want to make it very clear what I'm asking for are the things that we know are possible, like mirroring Senate bills 508 through 510.

Um many people will find these to be sanctuary policies that protect.

Um, but one thing that I'm not pushing for um because I have asked undocumented people, uh we are not pushing for a sanctuary city.

Um undocumented people when I ask them what they want, they want people to know their rights to documents when there's an issue to let people know if ICE is in your neighborhood.

What impacted people want our people, their neighbors to protect them.

Um not titles that might target them, um, not uh false solutions.

And quite frankly, I've said this before.

Let's say we pass all the policies that we say are gonna protect under fascism, that doesn't matter.

Um they do not care about the law, and what's going to be most important is that neighbors know their neighbors, reach out to their neighbors, take care of them, do more mutual aid work, um which we're pushing for as well.

So thank you all.

Uh we can do this uh if there's nothing else to come before us uh without objection, we are now adjourned.